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[QUOTE=JojoLasticot;1806445]I am not sure there are actual shifts. [/QUOTE]I mentioned that only I've noticed the hours at Sayuri being 12:00 - 24:00, and can't imagine the girls working 12 hours a day, or anything like that in any place.
Maybe she ran the water yen so the room wouldn't get hot. I had a girl do that once, and it was better than sweating.
Walking past the Duangtawan hotel towards the night bazaar for a bite to eat I passed these girls. They were obviously waiting for customers. Decided to inform what the possibilities are on my way back but unfortunately they disappeared. Does anyone know if this place has ladies waiting for some business more often?
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This report comes from the prospective of a newbie to mongering vacations outside the USA On a 20 day hobbying adventure to Hong Kong, Thailand, and Cambodia. Still Need to finish my Hong Kong diary but at least have some comparisons. Given only 3 days, I decided to narrow my targeting to Loi Khio road. I find my opportunities improve with familiarity and comfort level, so for newbies on short stop, you may want to concentrate efforts in one area and Loi Khio seemed best with the beer bar boxing complex and several Agogos in easy walking distance. Stayed at raminglodge. Upgrade to executive suite for a couple of extra coins, it's worth it if for no other reasons several the three ladies were impressed and may, maybe not, improved their comfort level and performance.
First night. Hit the beer bar complex 6 pm. Way too early. Returned around 830. I'd say 70 percent of the girls were not doable. Side note, But with a fixation for Asians and traveling 1000's miles to fuck Asians, I'd do one in three before going home alone. Anyway, always starting the night with top quality in mind and not wanting to hit the first thing to come along, I passed. Walked Loi Kroi in direction back to old city and there were about 6 small bars 2-4 girls in each aggressive in the street trying to pull you in. Some doable. Made notes in head as I walked to spotlight agogo. Jackpot. 3 rotations of 4. Girls. Most were fat but I needed just one. And there was Goi or Goy. Very pretty face, maybe 5 foot and 40 kilos with natural a cup, no kids, said 25 years old and believable. A true spinner. One beer one lady drink -around 250 baht. 750 bar fine. 2000 baht ST for two hours. Ok, don't jump on me, she would not come down and long term out due to two jobs (I think that is new tactic haven't heard on this board). Reality check. Incredibly hot Thai spinner for under 80 bucks-wasn't going to pass to save some nickels and dimes. Back at room. Back at room, started DFK. At least 10 minute BBBJ DT at times hands free all the while looking up at me with those eyes as if she was looking for a sign of approval. Then switch to 69, needed a break as I'm a one shot guy on ST, so rested while DATY. On came the hat. Went like this MISH, my standard rotation to upright sideways, then in spooning, and completing the 180 rotation into doggie. Then Cowgirl, road me hard and switched into a sweating girl girl that was off the charts. Finished back in lazy doggie, ass cheeks spread wide so I could enjoy the view. Overall Face - 8. 5, body -10, experience 9. 5 (no anal, didn't ask. Top two of all time mongering experience. 500 tip.
Second Night. Disaster. Went back to beer complex after Goi just to look around. Found syt Pim 20 if that. Meet second night. 500 bar fine. Again, no long time, work two jobs (getting to be theme). Wanted 4000ST. But for 4 hours (2 pop territory for me). I laughed. Settled on 3 k. Mistake 1. Back at room, she took bath, got into bed with towel on, turned away, rolled to her side almost fetal position. Wouldn't move. I initiated contact. Nothing. After 5 minutes, I asked her if she was going to at least do something and I started getting my dick rubbed by her leg. Obviously didn't want to be there. Told her to get out. She pleaded with me not to. That she get better. Not hearing it. Gave her 500 baht to get rid of. She wasn't a starfish, she was a fossilized starfish. Damage 1000 baht plus two lady drinks at approx 140 baht. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Maybe 2nd bar from the boxing stage on right side as walking down.
Third night-needed break from syt. Found 30 ish girl, not fat, nice smile, non aggressive with just a nice warm glow about her. Doesn't work often, does long term, but something about Kings birthday she had to be at work (other job) at 6 am. Believed her, because when I asked ST, she said she doesn't know as she does only LT. Offered 1000, accepted. 400 bar fine. Back at room, the sweet lady remained sweet. Again BBBJ DT, serious DFK. , DATY, and then she fucked me. I've been fortunate to spend many years with a lady that was multi orgasmic. It ain't me, it's the girls for the most part. Some can, most can't. I know multi organisms, what's real and what isn't and the timing. Between. This girl had 4 while in MISH, with the completion of each, she was grabbing my hibs / ass harder trying to get me to grind and go deeper. After she finished her 4th, I was exhausted. Took hat off rolled on back, and she started HJ. I asked if I could finish in her mouth. Yup. Overall. Face-7.5 body 7, experience 9. FH69.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1804590]I am not CM expert but the days of 1 k LT in Pattaya are only in the archives of the forum. 800 - 1000 for ST is pretty much the norm now, even at Soi 6. You might have followed some discussions on the going rates for ST at popular GoGos on WS. 3000 for ST. Yes, fucking crazy!
So taking everything into consideration if you can pull a lady at 1500 - 2000 for LT I would consider that fair rate.[/QUOTE]I lived in Jomtien for five years before moving to CM, so pretty familiar with Pattaya rates. 1500 for a LT will suffice for a first time with a beer bar gal, but as a steady customer 1000 Baht LT keeps them coming back. Bar fines extra of course, and a little taxi money if they come to visit on their own. Gogo's a different story, although girls often get attached and possessive about a steady, and I enjoyed a go-go gal for over a year at 1 k / night so anything is possible.
It seem gals here want to quote a higher price, but I hooked up with a nice gal from a beer bar here who's been quite happy with 1500/ LT for the last few months. So I guess that answered my own question.
Speaking some Thai helps a lot. Especially with the newer girls who don't speak any English and are happier having some interactions beyond sex. It also helps them to realize I know more about the bar scene game after a decade than they do after a few weeks in the biz.
Thanks for the responses.
SF
Long weekend to enjoy the hobby for a bit, and absolutely did so with #9 at Sayuri. Session was well above average, and she's energetic, talkative (but not the best English), laughs, makes jokes, very spontaneous. The kind of girl you could enjoy LT with and glow for days afterwards. Reminded me of a girl I had one night in Bangkok 2 months ago, great personality and stellar sex. This Sayuri girl struck me the second I walked in, but I spent a few minutes looking the girls over anyway. A pretty good lineup for 18:00 on a Sunday, and there were 2 others I would have chosen on looks alone without watching their habits, and one more hot one returned to the fishbowl while another guy (her customer) was walking out, but I decided to wait and see what other girls would show up later. Then in the space of less than 2 minutes, 3 other guys walked in, and I knew it was time to choose.
1400 baht, pay, smile at her when she comes out, then go downstairs. I got a little concerned when she turned on the TV, thinking she'd be another robot, but in the end, no way, she told me she was waiting for the tub to fill up. She gave it a whack to improve the reception, LOL, then turned it off after a minute. I washed a little in the tub and invited her in, and she dropped her towel and joined me. Stepped over my body and brushed her muff in my face, a little tease, then settled back to bathe me. Lovely eyes, light complexion, soft and fine skin, mischievous little smile that's a mix between "come fuck me" and "watch out, I'll fuck your dick off. " Her English is OK, and she talks a lot more in Thai, but she'll translate on her phone whatever she wants you to know, and she smiles and laughs a lot so it's a good time regardless. Finish bath and onto bed.
She had to step out for a second to get the larger condoms, came back and got right to it. Was polite enough to explain she always does CBJ, so I wouldn't take it personal. She does some good work, gives a nice sensation when she bounces it around in her mouth, and takes her time up and down. Asked if I wanted fuck now or more BJ, so I had her go on for a while longer before flipping her over. At first she didn't want me to DATY--a lot of girls seem to say that at first--but I coaxed her into it by asking for "just a little bit, little bit. " She used that against me about 15 minutes later when we had her wet all over the place in 69, rolling around on the bed, she said "you want little bit but you give a lot. " I told her it was because I liked her and she seemed fine with that.
Started MISH and she said I was hurting her, so had to go easy again. Honestly I think I'm not much bigger than average-big, but some of these girls say otherwise, but whatever. Very good unrushed session, she matches your pace well, very comfortable with her raising her hips every other thrust, she wraps her arms around you, brushes your lips and everything. Nice smell when you bury your face in her hair. Pulled her over for CG and let her go at her own pace for a while because I wanted to drill her good up to finish. Lovely skin and cute little belly, tight puss, nice teasing LFK with her tongue. Flipped over to doggie and she said she couldn't handle too much of that, unfortunately, kept saying "Jeb! Jeb! I die!" but it might have been part of her show. So I laid her flat and penetrated her deep from behind, try to increase her comfort, then back to doggie. Pulled her hair back and watched those lovely eyes in the mirror until finish. She gave me several more thrusts to wind down instead of pulling right away, let me kiss her back with my dick still inside her, then she cleaned me up and we got dressed.
She kept going on about my size, I thought it was funny. "You big! And long! I die!" I kept saying it was because I liked her, but she wouldn't hear it. "No, don't like me! I die!" Hilarious. Asked me if I had a girlfriend and I told her in Thai "sometimes," and she got a kick out of that. Generous tip before we left, she jumped up and gave me a nice close hug, and all the way back upstairs it was "Don't forget, don't forget. ".
#9, gents. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Aponymous;1808389]I mentioned that only I've noticed the hours at Sayuri being 12:00 - 24:00, and can't imagine the girls working 12 hours a day, or anything like that in any place.
Maybe she ran the water yen so the room wouldn't get hot. I had a girl do that once, and it was better than sweating.[/QUOTE]As I said I would I went back to Celeb, twice since this first report. Every time around 10 pm and there were many more girls, a few of them being really beautiful.
The downside of this place is the papasan walks in with you, sits with you and immediately asks you to pick a girl. Of course you can walk out but there is more pressure than at the Sakura where you are on your own during the first couple of minutes which makes it easier if you decide you are not interested by any of the girls present (this happened to me twice last week: gave it a try, did not find a girl whom I liked enough, walked out).
Anyway as I said there were really beautiful chicks, so that was not a problem. Those two experiences were very similar: a very beautiful girl in her early 20's who comes from the country (both told me they were from Chiang Rai) and doesn't speak a single word of English, although they understand basic questions. During the first 10 minutes you wait for the bath tube to fill and either chat or watch tv with the girl / check stuff on your smartphone. This is why a basic knowledge of Thai is useful. Then bath. The girl washes you thoroughly, paying of course special attention to your dick. Needless to mention I had a massive hard on then because, once again, they were really beautiful.
One of them gave me a nice massage too before the bath. I think all of them would do it if you ask.
Once clean we move to the bed. Action starts with a protected BJ. I don't like it as much as BBBJ but if the girl wants to put a condom on it I do respect it, I don't even ask for BB action. Then sex. Not amazing skills, but everything of good quality though. Afterwards quick shower, tip and goodbye khrap.
Overall a great experience, especially considering the bars are currently desperately empty. The very few really beautiful girls I saw all have boyfriends. Therefore it is interesting to check those places if you walked past all loy kroh bars twice and did not find anything interesting or if you do not want to spend 2 hours drinking / playing pool without being positive you will eventually go with the girl you like.
Next time I come I would like to check the Karaoke Hi-Class on the other side of River Ping, a few hundred yards after the iron bridge. Every night there seem to be girls waiting outside, almost naked for some of them, stunners for some of them and for what I saw. I did not stop though because karaoke experiences I have had or heard of in CM all turned out to be scams.
Now I am off the Europe for a few months. Enjoy your time here, be respectful of the people you meet, don't get involved in fist fights and brush your teeth at least twice a day and you should have a great time. Chang Mai is a great place, one of the most amazing cities I know, but lacks action and beautiful girls nowadays. One can always find a beautiful and sexy chick but it will definitely require more knowledge and skills than a few years ago.
I was at the night market and warorot market and figured I'd walk over to Sayuri's. A van full of asian gentleman arrived as I was walking in. There were about 15-20 girls although I could differentiate only 2 groups instead of the 3 I was expecting. Frankly, none of them were even decent-lookers. However, since I was already there, I figured, what the heck, I'll try one. So, I selected a number and went over to the desk. The papasan quoted 2500 THB to me and immediately a lined formed in front of him. Seeing as how he was quoting me a very inflated price and I had found the selection of ladies fairly underwhelming anyway, I chose to walk out. That's about it for Chiang Mai.
There were two FLs at the corner of Loi Kroh and Khampangdin but I didn't chat them up. Got an early morning day trip planned for tomorrow morning. Will see if I want to try to hit the soapy on the other side of town tomorrow night. Will go to Phuket day after anyway. I'm staying right next to the beer bar complex but it doesn't appeal much to me. A couple of girls standing outside each trying to pull you in.
[QUOTE=Maila;1815453]I was at the night market and warorot market and figured I'd walk over to Sayuri's. A van full of asian gentleman arrived as I was walking in. There were about 15-20 girls although I could differentiate only 2 groups instead of the 3 I was expecting. Frankly, none of them were even decent-lookers. However, since I was already there, I figured, what the heck, I'll try one. So, I selected a number and went over to the desk. The papasan quoted 2500 THB to me and immediately a lined formed in front of him. Seeing as how he was quoting me a very inflated price and I had found the selection of ladies fairly underwhelming anyway, I chose to walk out. That's about it for Chiang Mai.
There were two FLs at the corner of Loi Kroh and Khampangdin but I didn't chat them up. Got an early morning day trip planned for tomorrow morning. Will see if I want to try to hit the soapy on the other side of town tomorrow night. Will go to Phuket day after anyway. I'm staying right next to the beer bar complex but it doesn't appeal much to me. A couple of girls standing outside each trying to pull you in.[/QUOTE]Too bad you don't seem to know where else to look in CM, or how to talk to the local girls. Of course, we keep the best secrets to ourselves when we live here.
[QUOTE=Aponymous;1816264]Too bad you don't seem to know where else to look in CM, or how to talk to the local girls. Of course, we keep the best secrets to ourselves when we live here.[/QUOTE]Ha-ha, no its true. I had no idea and can't speak in the local language. Another one for interesting memories!
[QUOTE=Aponymous;1816264]Too bad you don't seem to know where else to look in CM, or how to talk to the local girls. Of course, we keep the best secrets to ourselves when we live here.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Chiang Mai for almost 20 years and speak reasonable Thai. My old haunts of where there were girls on offer in abundance have long gone. Over the years I have made many friends and acquaintances in Chiang Mai, both Thais and Farangs, and if there were anything I would find out about it, there are no hidden girl pulling establishments reserved for a privileged few in the know.
As regards chatting up local girls, that's called pulling the birds and is the same everywhere and has nothing to do with the commercial sex scene. No different to joining online dating sites and trying your luck there.
The Chiang Mai girly bars are on their way out and then there is the mechanical soapies, that's about it. Stories of single conquests and how guys met a nympho at a market somewhere are irrelevant to these forums.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;1765020]Long story short we arrange to meet at 11 to party, she shows up and has a motorbike and we go for a couple of beers, her English is bad. All night long it's me not like falang but I like you. Get her back to the hotel and smash the life out of her she is very enthusiastic, every position no problem. Done her 3 times could have been more but I was tired. Looks I would say 7. 5 It seemed every time I woke up she was either sacking my balls or cock constantly. She really wanted to please. 5 am she is leaving with no mention of payment so I put 1000 in her bag. Good first day in LOS.[/QUOTE]I can say with some certainty this girl had probably hit the meth pipe before your date.
Do you recall a slight chemical odor on her breath or body BTW? That's your cue.
There is no other explanation for her to have been wide awake AND wanting to fuck, suck all night long.
Whatever your view on drugs, if you can find a meth girl who is not to messed up by the habit, you are going to get stellar sex. This is what the authorities try to play down about ice.
Usually ice queens are of the freelance variety, it tends to just work that way.
Of course, as with many FL and substance users everywhere (I do have a penchant for dangerous wacky working women) your risk of infections, LEO busts, thefts, and general bother does go up, but if you can stay relatively sober, and get them at the right time, its a memorable experience.
[QUOTE=ArthurTick;1816729]I have lived in Chiang Mai for almost 20 years and speak reasonable Thai. My old haunts of where there were girls on offer in abundance have long gone. Over the years I have made many friends and acquaintances in Chiang Mai, both Thais and Farangs, and if there were anything I would find out about it, there are no hidden girl pulling establishments reserved for a privileged few in the know.
As regards chatting up local girls, that's called pulling the birds and is the same everywhere and has nothing to do with the commercial sex scene. No different to joining online dating sites and trying your luck there.
The Chiang Mai girly bars are on their way out and then there is the mechanical soapies, that's about it. Stories of single conquests and how guys met a nympho at a market somewhere are irrelevant to these forums.[/QUOTE]I too have been a BKK monger for many years, now relocated to CM in my 'retired' years.
I have not had much experience here as I have a live in GF, but when she goes to visit family, I have a few days off now and then, this is one of those times.
Last Christmas, I went to the LK Rd. At the No1 bar down the soi for some Belgian craft beer, and picked up a 48 hour freebie from a 30 plus bar girl who worked at Downunder Pub, she showed up with some rich old show off who had barfined them all for a pub crawl!?
A few other 2014 Christmas nights I picked up a few forgettable shags at other forgettable bars.
The point of this is just to agree with Arthur tick on the CM scene, however, I would also imagine there are good GFE to be found for local mongers with patience and persistence, or at very least a good regular, for the local expats. That's what I need right now, a good regular in CM!
[QUOTE=Aponymous;1789328]Seeing a few freelancers on Mun Mueang Rd (the northbound lane just inside Tha Phae Gate), between the Loi Kroh turnaround and the Chiang Moi turnaround. Just 3 or 4, but it's been early when I've spotted them, between 18.00 - 19.00, couple nights a week.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, I live here, but now have few opportunities to monger, and I love freelancers. I do tend to take a view that CM is quiet, but it is what it is, and I think living in Pattaya or on Sukhuvit would be my idea of hell! I don't need or want it in my face 24/7 and I'm older anyway.
So on the debate of CM is rubbish or not, lets just say times change, and its still better than being in say, Sydney or Leeds, and it is what you make it, so thanks for this FL info, I will be cruising there later tonight! About to leave the house soon.
Local mongers are welcome to PM me for a meetup and beer. Visitors, I am also OK to meet if I have time, but understand, I'm not a de-facto tour guide or free taxi service.
Coming from the gecko going south on Kampang din Road I saw a new to me venture, all widows obfuscated by blue adhesive plastic, only the name paradise on the outside. Does anybody have any intelligence on that?
Thanks for all the great reports here.
Have been in Chiang Mai for a few days. Here for just over 2 more weeks.
On previous visits here I have been most places on Loy Khro and visited a number of soapy and normal massages.
This time I plan to visit some more Thai oriented places and will post my findings.
However just once in about 20 encounters on previous visits I have had the pleasure of a BBBJ CIM. I'm not sure if it will be on the menu in the erotic massage places I plan to visit. If anyone could inform me of a good location where BBBJ CIM is a possibility I would be very grateful.