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[QUOTE=Ortos;2365481]In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...
And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.
I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.[/QUOTE]FKK is not a normal business, just have a quick about who are the owners of the clubs. The boss of Paradise Stuttgart was sentenced for 5 years jail, last month the new boss a woman was arrested for taxes issues. As long the business is booming no need to further invest also despite KK aggressive comments against me, the reality is also that the customers are also changing, far more diversity, younger man just looking for quick sex with what they consider being beautiful girls, sili, Botox, porn look. Blonde, it is not their fault they were mostly educated by TV reality shows or Youporn, and also probably the real natural educated beauties are perhaps not accessible to them.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365355]TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.[/QUOTE]No choice. I am a tourist with only 7 days for this FKK tour. I had already set aside 2 days for World with appointments with regulars and the rest of the World line-up was not worth a 3rd visit.
I was told that 2 of my favorites would certainly be in Sharks that Friday. And I hate Palace. I could have made a 2nd visit to Oase though, but Becky beckoned and my feet took me to the heat of Sharks, regardless what my head might have wanted to choose.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2365449]You are right, but as long the business is booming why should they invest.[/QUOTE]I don't know any other club who made so many improvement than Sharks since 2015 : They built veranda to increase restaurant, they built chalets I love outside, with AC and window, they made a beautiful garden with beautiful trees, they made 4 new rooms upstairs, they even made new rooms, had enjoyable times with Florentina in elephant, near SM and mirror rooms, I don t know why closed now. I enjoy breakfast at Sharks, one of the best club for services I know. My only problem at Sharks is casting, quantity but no wow beauty seen since long time unfortunately for me. I need beauty to enjoy sex. Heat make sex erotic with sweat, smell, for sure difficult then for girls stamina, but when You are a bit sporty, really nothing compare to climbing Stelvio, starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, then after 20/25 mn in red zone under such high heat, You feel your body is losing water, muscles become hard, not little terminator, and I was very surprised to break record with such killing body sensations, but recovering, after more than 2 hours of such effort, was long, needing days to be able to make performances again. Felt good sensations in Stelvio from Prato, but a bit disappointed by my time on top when I wanted record, but lost too much power, body needed more time to make power, la Bonette. FR was also just average, but again much better performances in legendary Galibier. This is real sport, and even under sometimes more than 40 degrees on bicycle thermometer, I think I had 45 degrees in Bourg the Oisans when starting Alpe the Huez on July 2016 for my first climbing of the year, this is my Summer tour, but real passion, as long I will be able to break records, I climb only for records.
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Can anyone share the recent natural busty lineup in Sharks? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2365604]I was told that 2 of my favorites would certainly be in Sharks that Friday. And I hate Palace. I could have made a 2nd visit to Oase though, but Becky beckoned and my feet took me to the heat of Sharks, regardless what my head might have wanted to choose.[/QUOTE]Your usage of "could have" suggests that you had other options. As KK would put it you could have called an "audible" on the ground and adjusted your schedule, but your priority was to chase Becky and your other two favorites, which I can relate to, because I probably would have done the same. My point is you, I, Ortos and 95 percent of the ISG readership base our visits primarily around the LU. Club management knows that if they can maintain LUs at "adequate" levels, addicts like us our going to come get our fix. Even it means suffering a heatstroke in the room. In the end, Sharks management will still collect their entry fees on this customer segment.
Locals of course have more flexibility. Locals can simply schedule around these days. For instance, if a local visits every Sunday, and one Sunday falls during a heat wave, he can throw in a Wednesday visit, and Sharks management, still collects four entries from this customer for that month.
But having a nice outdoor area I am told can pull in customers who otherwise would not attend. Some mongers attend Oase only during the warm months. These mongers (usually locals) may keep a close eye on those rare 30 degree days and attend Oase specifically on those days. Looks like there were five in August 2019: [URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/de/frankfurt/15230/august-weather/167903?year=2019[/URL].
As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2365500]I agree with you. And I think you made a really good point below in another comment that temperatures have been rising in this region in the last few years. What might have been acceptable and tolerable a few years ago is no longer so. Clubs can put this problem on the back burner for only so long.
A few years ago, Oase was still numero uno among clubs. LU was good, Club was full of men, service reasonably good with not as much upselling etc. But the food sucked. Girls could eat just once a day, and some men had to let them share their food or else the girls were starving. Men could get a pizza or the lousy buffet, then the pizza went away. Customers were unhappy. Had the management paid attention in time, perhaps the club would not have slid. I'm not saying food was the only reason Oase went down the ranks but perhaps that was the canary in the coal Mine? Food quality has improved since those days but that club never fully regained its former glory.
If Sharks mgmt had any sense, they would fix this problem. Unbearable temperatures in the room subtracts from the quality of sex. Girls, themselves sweating, do not relish being fucked by fat men drenched in sweat and that gets reflected in their rush to get out of the room even faster than normal. This is a problem in search of a solution unlike the bar upgrade (water and coke fountains is a different matter).[/QUOTE]Good management is why some club succeed and others fail. Sharks does some things right (flexibility for girls and discount Sunday). But efficiency of staff is poor (from receptionist to bar maid). The fact they have AC in the cabins says they are not unaware of the problem. It is probably a big project inside. However, a few rooms do have AC. That is why I prefer NRW clubs because they are smaller and are responsive to customer desires.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2365438]Outside chalets have AC and window.[/QUOTE]How can we get outside chalets on hot days when you and guys like you spend hours in them. I only need 1/2 hour :-)
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2365777]How can we get outside chalets on hot days when you and guys like you spend hours in them. I only need 1/2 hour.[/QUOTE]When I visited weekly on 2015/2016, I don't think you have to wait often now because of me to have a free chalet. I usually don't have problem to find a free chalet. My standard is 1 hour because I enjoy to foreplay, sometimes for longer time. 100 for 1 enjoyable hour is good deal for me.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365760]As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.[/QUOTE]With regards to Germans staying in the cities in August, don't forget about cool churches, cinemas, pubs with indoor AC and lots and lots of wine festivals almost everywhere!
For those who still remember: when FKK-World opened in 2003,16 years ago, it was one of the hottest summers I ever experienced.
With regards to the lineup at Sharks after the re-opening of the bar: lots of known faces are missing, but nevertheless, at least 80 girls can be expected to be present on Wednesday and on the weekend.
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As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.
My house is equipped with AC just because I have a big land and I can do what I want. When you live in a apartment in France or Germany it is a real nightmare to equip it with a AC after the construction is completed, you need the agreement of all the other owners, from the local authorities. And on top of that it is costly.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2365767]Good management is why some club succeed and others fail. Sharks does some things right (flexibility for girls and discount Sunday). But efficiency of staff is poor (from receptionist to bar maid). The fact they have AC in the cabins says they are not unaware of the problem. It is probably a big project inside. However, a few rooms do have AC. That is why I prefer NRW clubs because they are smaller and are responsive to customer desires.[/QUOTE]Just for club, Sharks is higher level for me than Bruggen and far higher level than LR. At Sharks, you can eat until at night, when finished at GT and LR at 9 pm, at LR nothing to eat after and pizzas are not anymore what they were. I don t need free beer. But most important is casting and beauties are rare.
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[QUOTE=NickTheG;2366047]With regards to Germans staying in the cities in August, don't forget about cool churches, cinemas, pubs with indoor AC and lots and lots of wine festivals almost everywhere!
For those who still remember: when FKK-World opened in 2003,16 years ago, it was one of the hottest summers I ever experienced.[/QUOTE]So we've established that the average German monger lives in a home without AC and he needs to find a way to stay cool on those 35 degree days. Would a FKK club with a nice pool and outdoor area (I. E. World summer 2003) be a major selling point?
Looking at the actual temperatures calendar again, I can see that this past Saturday was 33 degrees. And that two Saturdays prior it was a more mild 22 degrees. I would be curious to know the attendance figures for Sharks on these two Saturdays. Just for fun, I will make some broad sweeping assumptions. Obviously anybody who was in attendance both of these Saturdays can offer their impressions: (1) the hotter Saturday had higher volume of paying customers, (2) the milder Saturday had higher overall volume of rooms, (3) the hotter Saturday had more rooms occurring between hours of say midnight and closing. I make these assertions, even with the knowledge that August 17 may have gotten a slight attendance bump from incoming French, Italian, and Belgians enjoying their holiday weekend.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2366609]So we've established that the average German monger lives in a home without AC and he needs to find a way to stay cool on those 35 degree days. Would a FKK club with a nice pool and outdoor area (I. E. World summer 2003) be a major selling point?
Looking at the actual temperatures calendar again, I can see that this past Saturday was 33 degrees. And that two Saturdays prior it was a more mild 22 degrees. I would be curious to know the attendance figures for Sharks on these two Saturdays. Just for fun, I will make some broad sweeping assumptions. Obviously anybody who was in attendance both of these Saturdays can offer their impressions: (1) the hotter Saturday had higher volume of paying customers, (2) the milder Saturday had higher overall volume of rooms, (3) the hotter Saturday had more rooms occurring between hours of say midnight and closing. I make these assertions, even with the knowledge that August 17 may have gotten a slight attendance bump from incoming French, Italian, and Belgians enjoying their holiday weekend.[/QUOTE]If you go to Oase in the summer, you will see the garden and pool packed, and a large number of people will leave after the sun goes down. These folks don't even go to the rooms. They just come to enjoy the facilities. The same is true for some NRW clubs where they come to drink the beer and to socialize. So, coming from a hot house is definitely true.