Hi guys!
Any recommendations from TF App?
There's too much in that, most of the girls are ready for 1 k ST.
Sometimes too much option confuses one.
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Hi guys!
Any recommendations from TF App?
There's too much in that, most of the girls are ready for 1 k ST.
Sometimes too much option confuses one.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2031351]What does it matter, though? I didn't notice any particular racial bias last December, but I wasn't checking out the racial makeup of the other punters, since the number of girls on the road seemed to vastly outnumber men on the two nights I visited. I figure a bunch of Indian guys trying to low ball the girls hard ( they are reputed to do), will just make them more excited about a polite and perfumed Westerner who is offering them a fair price. 800 baht for a sweet girl. What's not to like about that?[/QUOTE]Some girls have a racial bias on BR. Not making eye contact is one of there tactics.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2031459]And if that was not shocking, her next statement was even more mind-boggling. She noticed that I was disappointed (no kidding, right?) she said that if I am not happy with her demands, then she can return back to her bar and ask her friend to go out with me. Somebody from us must be an idiot. Making long story short, I explained that I would not go with her friend but I will request BF back and make my best to upset her mama-san. Alternatively, I will be very gentle, etc. In a way more carrots and less stick, but OMG!
[/QUOTE]And for the record, how that ended? I've never returned a girl in Thailand because I don't BF, but let many Fls go with taxi money. I returned girls on a couple of occasions in Vietnam. In Pattaya I returned a go-go girl on behalf of a friend while we were still walking, BF money came back on a tray in 1 minute for anyone to see. I think that being kind and caring may work with some girls but not with all. Some just behave for the moment (leaving the bar no matter their pussy conditions and summing up a BF) and think they can manipulate the customer without using hands. Which I guess in many cases they manage to do.
Got a huge suite booked for s great deal of 3,000 Baht at one of the LK brand hotels in Central Pattaya tomorrow. I guess this is considered low season but the hotel prices are dirt cheap. Anyways, my plan is to hang out at LK Metro or Skyfall on Walkig street on Saturday night. I will bar fine a cute and have fun in my suite. Saturday I plan to checkout at Noon and head over to Soi 6 to try two ladies over the course of the afternoon. I will report back on my findings at LK Metro. I don't hear too much about the bars there on the forum so I will try and report some significant info. Walking street will be my backup plan.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2030566]Not sure which Westernized country you're referring to that are close to Pattaya pricing. I'm interested for sure since I travel a lot. Was just looking at Germany tonight and 10 hour overnight with a top end German girl is 1000 euro (37,500 baht?).[/QUOTE]The FKKs in Germany have reasonable pricing. You pay an entrance fee, about 60 to 80 Euros, and each session is 50 Euros. The entrance fee entitles you to free food and free drinks, and you can stay as long as you want.
No need to pay 1000 Euros for a German girl, they have a reputation for lousy performance, confirmed by the gew German girls I saw.
I spend 4 night last week have a good time 5 girls 2 from beach Road got lucky on first night got a young one for 800 bht ST service is OK.
She is new in town, one girl in Soi 6 at full moon bar 1350 bht service is good, I went to Soi 6 on a Thursday selection is poor much better.
On Friday and pick up 2 FL from I Bar 2500 bht first one good GFE stay til morning the 2nd one have bad attitude with a hot slamming body.
Complain too damn much so I kick her out after one shots.
I did finally make it to Kinnaree pratnamak Soi 4 take a motorbike 100 bht.
From central Pattaya the Sunday roast buffet is OK, it was just too.
Dark in the bar and girl are below average don, t see why I need to barfined.
Here.
Fast Eddie 48.
Day 12 (Thursday).
It is really hot today, but I head off to Soi 6 around 2:30. Banana Boy raved about Thai Rose, the first club on Soi 6 off 2nd street on the north side. I have noted girls there and, as he said, they often had their faces buried in their cell phones so I never considered them, as I tend to only go to girls who look and smile at me. There was one cutie out front, face in her phone, but I continued walking, wanting to take in the whole street before choosing someone. Deah waved from Full Moon. I walked over and she was dressed up today and looked pretty nice. She did not try to lure me in, knowing I was on a hunt, but letting me know she was there for me. I continued on and walked past Noi's bar really without knowing it. I have no idea if she saw me or not. I really wasn't seeing all that much I was interested in. I continued on and Jaeb was out and she called me over. She, too, was dressed up and with her makeup on, her face looked especially nice. She tried to get me to go in but I resisted.
I then circled back on Soi 6/1 back to the entrance and at Thai Rose there now 3 girls, including a really hot sweet young thing. I walked over, she looks up, and she asked if I wanted a drink so we went inside. She could not have been over 21 and was pretty close to downright beautiful. I sat down and while her English was horrible, who cares? She brought my drink and then promptly proceeded to leave me. I am sit there, no one else in the bar but the mamasan / bartender, feeling like a fool. Is the girl coming back? I look out through the curtained door and can see the girl is out front. I wait a little then decide she isn't coming back and I sure ain't going to sit inside alone like a fool. I get up, take my essentially full drink (a can on Coke Light, not even served with a glass of ice) and sit it on the bar and pay my bill. The mamasan / whatever seems a little surprised that am I leaving so soon but says nothing. I walk out and the girl, who is soooo hot, was over at a food cart buying something. I glance at her and head westward. I think she sees me leave and I think it was her who shouted out something, but not to me. My brain interpreted what she said as "why did you let him leave? But my understanding of Thai is hardly sufficient to understand anything more than "thank you". I have been handed off to a different girl, but never dumped on Soi 6. I can understand she considered me too old or otherwise undesirable and didn't want to be with me, so whatever. Not going to let it upset me.
I then went few bars down to Mod Bar. (I met to identify the bar with Lilly the LB, but keep forgetting.) I went over to say Hi to this dark-skinned spinner who looked really young. We went inside and she said she was 21 and had been in town for just 1 week. She had poor Engligh and though she was touching and rubbing my rubbing my legs and arms, I was not developing any feelings with her. Her face, while pretty, was not exactly sexy, and I was having doubts. Several times I thought of asking her to go upstairs, and several times I thought of just walking off as I was not sensing we would have that great of a time. Some of that was because she admitted to having a kid. But, I decided to go on and ask her upstairs, but then she said due to police raids we would have to go to a ST hotel, a 5 minute walk away. But the BF was 300 and her rate was 1000. Well, I didn't want to have to go to a ST hotel, so I used that as an excuse to listen to my brain and cancel the deal. She did seem disappointed, but I gave her 100 for her time and that satisfied her.
I proceeded on to the Ruby Club and met Amm, a light-skinned Issan girl who was cute in that girl-next-door sort of way. Nice body, great legs and pretty face and hair. Her English was not good but I learned she was 27 and had a child. The bar was busy but she stayed with me and within 10 minutes she asked if I wanted to go with her. Ummmm, ok. ST or LT? I don't get asked that question too often, but I said ST would be fine for now. BF was 300 and her ST rate was 1000. We went upstairs and the room had been recently remodeled and was nice. She showered me and I got to look at her naked body. Breasts were very small, but she had a nice figure with no obvious signs of childbirth. In bed, she wanted to know if I like smoke (BJ), and I laughed and asked what man didn't, but would she first just lie down with me. She did. I touched her and she stroked me to hardness. She was in no obvious hurry and seemed to simply take the latest direction I offered. When I asked for smoke, she smiled and proceeded with a pretty good one. I was surprised, actually, as I thought it would be mechanical, but she did good. And she kept going, switching things around. She would take about half of me in, then she would lick the head, then do other little things. I was impressed. I finally had to stop her and ask for a condom. She put it on and climbed on top. I have to say some of these Asian girls with children remain tight, and she was no exception. We did several positions and I was about to believe I would be able to release with Anm. I got soooo close, but failed. Had she been a little more active I might have gotten there, but while sweet and accommodating, she pretty much just laid there, though she at least smiled. She was concerned I was not happy when I pulled out. From her viewpoint, she had done everything I had asked, or was able to ask. I just tried to keep it simple and say I was too old. No use trying to explain how I can rarely release into a condom or that she needed to do more touching and stuff. She was a sweet girl and I would probably see her again if I was going to be here longer.
My Johnson was still a little sore from the marathon, and not really finding anyone else I wanted to be with on Soi 6 at that time, I went back to the hotel. I enjoyed a tasty burrito at the Mexican place there on Soi 7, then returned to the hotel to try to decide how I would spend the evening. It has been days since I have been to WS, should I go? Should I look for a FL on BR? Go back to Soi 6? Visit an agogo? Well, I was involved with some other things and before I knew it the time was 10:30. I went down Soi 7 and Soi 8 looking, not really being all that impressed, but I let this sort of cute spinner pull me in to some bar I can't remember. Great figure and legs. She is sort of pretty and as soon as she sits me at the bar almost immediately after I order my drink she hits me up for one too. Well, I am getting a better look at her now, and I don't like being immediately hit up. I look around and see several obvious LBs there. Hmmmm. I look at her and her face is, well, pretty but different. Do her hands appear to be larger than a normal girls? No sure. But she is petite and those legs. The voice also seems to be just a tad off. Not high pitched, but not low pitched or odd sounding. So, is this a girl or not? I tend to think she is a she, but alarms bells are going off and even if she is a she, I don't think I will enjoy looking at the face so much banging her now that I study it. I decline to buy her a drink. I kind of ignore her after that and soon she gets the hint and bugs off. She was probably a girl, and I could have asked, but the face that at first appeared cute to me was quickly losing its' attractiveness, so I did the right thing.
I head back towards my hotel, and at the place just west of the Flipper House, next to a massage place, a pretty girl outside calls me over. I am certain she is a real girl. Really nice legs, fairly slender with a nice face, I go over and let her take me inside. It is sort of a sports par with a huge TV screen showing a soccer game. We sit down and I order my soda and we talk a little. Her English is poor but we can talk a bit. I buy her a drink then she drags out one of those games that I should know the name of, and where these girls always beat me, but I guess I am getting better and I win a few. Then, after maybe a dozen games she gets up, goes to the back (I assume to the toilet), then she goes outside and, well, leaves me hanging! Huh? Well, ok. I got used, though I did enjoy the time. I pay the bill and leave. As I pass by she smiles like nothing is wrong. I guess she is a coyote, there to lure guys in and when I didn't buy more drinks she just up and left me. Ok, fine. I was going to ask her to go with me, but I guess she wasn't that type of girl.
I simply decide to call it a night. I am wearing down, and being unable to sleep past 8 AM, I am tired. Sigh. So I return to my room, shower, watch some news, and go to bed. I will only have two more mongering days now. Time is running out.
Day 13 (Friday).
My next to last mongering day. I am ready to leave I think. I think 10 days might be the ideal time to stay here, but everyone is different. Are you guys getting tired of my reports? Sex multiple times a day, day after day, loses some of its fun. It becomes works. You feel you have to go out and get laid often because of all the money you spent to get here and that in a few more days it will be over and you will go back home to bitchy, fat western women, and you will start to dream of that return trip back here. And as I commented on, hours and hours of actual intercourse and sucking takes a toll on one's Johnson. I have heard a few comments from other attesting to this. One guy freaked he had some disease but, no, just too much sex with condoms with insufficient lube.
Anyway, only two women today which, actually, is a good number. On Soi 6, I saw a cutie out front at Good Fellas. Her name was Kat and, OMG, I am forgetting things less than 20 later. She was semi-dark, pretty, and I am losing it here. Like me, she likes cats, and I had a good time with her but I really don't remember much. Sheesh. How many of us can barely remember anything at all about a girl we had sex with the day before? I think I had a good time!
I left and proceeded down the street and Noi called me over. She was dressed in a tight pants suit that she looked good in. Her hair was down and washed and she looked pretty good, but her mouth looked different. She has braces! When did she get braces. Yesterday? We sat and touched and stuff for a long while, and while she is practically a GFE now, I felt I didn't want her right then. So I said I had to leave and would be back, and I tipped her well for her time. I continued walking to the west and Pa at Miss be-haven called out to me. She was slightly miffed I didn't remember her but, well, it has been a week or so. I seem to remember having a good time with her, though I just then passed her by without being overly impressed. But, she is practically a spinner so I go in and see wants to skip the drinks and head upstairs, so fine. She is cute, but she had the slightly droopy breasts. Sex was fine, she is tight and all, but nothing great and I leave and return to the hotel.
On the way back, I see there is some sort of food festival along BR. At the hotel I run up and grab my camera and head back right before sunset to take pictures. Some attractive Thai news lady was there interviewing someone. It was all pretty neat and tons of people were out. There was also some sort of event and VIP dinner.
After my own dinner, I returned to my hotel, then went out to wander around Soi 7 and 8 again. There are some nice women here, I suppose, but I partook of nothing. Coming back to the hotel I walked by Kung, the presumed coyote near the hotel who dumped me two days earlier. She was all smiles and called me over. I went and she grabbed my hand and asked where I was going. I said to my hotel and she asked if she could go with me. Huh? I said you stood me up the other day, but I don't think she understood. But fool me once, shame of you, so I declined.
I thought of returning to Soi 6 and Noi, but I didn't. I should see her Saturday and say goodbye, but I hate goodbyes. I will figure it out tomorrow.
So that concluded my mongering day. Two ladies, but I suppose you can tell I am wearing down.
Thanks FL for TOFTT at Thai Rose. That really sucks about the girl. I guess I'm different than you, likely not in a good way. In a circumstance like that I would have said something to the mamasan expecting to get my lady drink money back. I don't care about the money but I do want to express my displeasure. I guess it's better she did what she did rather than you having a shit session upstairs with her.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2031607]And for the record, how that ended? [/QUOTE]I never had to return the girl because we compromised. I did not get all I wanted in the evening, but in the morning all demands were removed. I paid only 2 K instead of 2. 5-3 K as agreed; she did not behaved as agreed and she knew it and she accepted 2 K with gratitude (or at least without complains). But this is what I think was going on. Our communication in 90% was via phone apps translation. And she felt some pain in the lower stomach area and that scared her a lot. So she was afraid that she might have gotten something from previous customers. As she was on her jobs for only 7 days, anything spooks her. I was too tired to fight my mind and physically and return her at 2 AM (or about that time); plus I might have put her in trouble for the reasons behind her control -- in any way, I felt other things we did were satisfying somewhat. When she woke up she felt better, so no demands. In the morning (as from the moment I took her) she was giving me real GFE, and I asked for her to stay one more day with me -- to which she refused and promptly left at 10 as agreed: go figure.
FL, you did very well I think, always listening to the 6th sense. I'm sure I had been reading your good reports on a previous occasion.
It has been ages since I stopped doing detailed reports but I should add my grain of intel here even if in a short form. 1st lady at Lucifer (which is totally OK I'd say), around 30, slim with short hair, loves to dance, she even brought me under the spotlight! Overall looks 6 1/2, attitude 7 (she did not counted pops, but did a runner anyway), sex drive a full 8! Have lost the number but will look for her again.
Lek also from Lucifer, is an old acquaintance already. Always friendly and available, small frame with silicon, unfortunately she's weak in bed and not attractive. Definitely the last time for me.
Last one. Surasee from I disco where she was standing by the bar in the corner alone. Petite and flexible with a bit of beer belly, pretty enough with great long black hair, doesn't smoke, no tattoos likes to dance and party to death, very friendly and easy to laugh. We did 2 LTs (actually it was most of the day including sightseeing). Very good English, zero bullshit, she's actually very intelligent and aware of things, likes to go out at night, very good and active in bed, the kind of girl that really deserves to be treated well. However after two nights I wanted to take time for me, which honestly hasn't brought me much except a lot of club hopping.
I gave all these ladies 2 K with no negotiation, which this trip I don't want to make if possible, at the same time declined 2 K ST 1 pop from a sexy tight body at Insomnia, one of the best looking small sized ones. There are really few of these so as you spot a decent one you better be quick.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2031933]It is really hot today, but I head off to Soi 6 around 2:30. Banana Boy raved about Thai Rose, the first club on Soi 6 off 2nd street on the north side. I have noted girls there and, as he said, they often had their faces buried in their cell phones so I never considered them, as I tend to only go to girls who look and smile at me. [/QUOTE]Agree, I always avoid all the girls are too busy with their phone.
[QUOTE=FLHawk;2031933]I walked over, she looks up, and she asked if I wanted a drink so we went inside. She could not have been over 21 and was pretty close to downright beautiful. I sat down and while her English was horrible, who cares? She brought my drink and then promptly proceeded to leave me. I am sit there, no one else in the bar but the mamasan / bartender, feeling like a fool. Is the girl coming back? I look out through the curtained door and can see the girl is out front. I wait a little then decide she isn't coming back and I sure ain't going to sit inside alone like a fool. I get up, take my essentially full drink (a can on Coke Light, not even served with a glass of ice) and sit it on the bar and pay my bill. .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2031942]Thanks FL for TOFTT at Thai Rose. That really sucks about the girl. I guess I'm different than you, likely not in a good way. In a circumstance like that I would have said something to the mamasan expecting to get my lady drink money back. [/QUOTE]Lady drink money back? FL Hawk don't wrote that she order a LD and leave, he said she gave him the coke and leave.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2032133]Lady drink money back? FL Hawk don't wrote that she order a LD and leave, he said she gave him the coke and leave.[/QUOTE]Sorry I misread it. Then it makes more sense that the girl left, albeit quickly. She may have interpreted that not getting a lady drink may have meant you weren't interested in her. Thai logic.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2032160]Sorry I misread it. Then it makes more sense that the girl left, albeit quickly. She may have interpreted that not getting a lady drink may have meant you weren't interested in her. Thai logic.[/QUOTE]I think some young thai girls have need to learn how to take care their customer. Pity the mamasan and old school girls don't teach the new generation.
I won't barfine from anyplace that has both ladies and ladyboys. I really wish bars wouldn't hire both. Great reports as always FL Hawk.