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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2181696]Actually, the questions the doctor asked about eating pussy were quite serious and logical. Gonorrheal conjunctivitis can be acquired from eating pussy in the bottom position when infectious vaginal fluids and cum drips into the eyes of the monger, or the infected girl farts in his face causing aerosolized gonococcal bacteria to come into contact with the conjunctiva. Eating pussy in the top position is a bit less risky, as far as the eyes are concerned unless the girl squirts in the monger's face. It may be a good idea for cunnilingus connoisseurs to inquire as to whether the recipient of their lingual attentions squirts, to avoid being blindsided by a blast of vaginal fluids to the eyes.

Gynecologists do not wear surgical masks and safety glasses just to look cool while peering down dilated vaginal shafts. They do so to protect themselves from any unexpected discharges of virus and bacteria laden fluids and aerosols from the vaginal and / or anus. They would rather not take an infectious squirt or fart to the face, mouth, eyes, and nostrils.[/QUOTE]I got this myself and later diagnosed other guys with it. Briefly, we get infected by one of these lovely ladies and then we rub our eyes. The level of ignorance and / or gay abandonment here is amazing and I am in the dock with most others. When I asked how the women got their diseases treated, I was told they don't. On my last day last time in Angeles, I gave two hooker pals probably 2 dozen condoms each for future use. One, pregnant with her third child, gave her ration to her mate as she couldn't be bothered and the other wanted unprotected sex with me even though I was fighting a mild chlamydia infection from her and / or someone else. Swimming in vaginal sewers.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2181696]Gonorrheal conjunctivitis can be acquired from eating pussy in the bottom position when infectious vaginal fluids and cum drips into the eyes of the monger, or the infected girl farts in his face causing aerosolized gonococcal bacteria to come into contact with the conjunctiva. [/QUOTE]Rrrrrrrrrrrromance!

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2181696]Gynecologists do not wear surgical masks and safety glasses just to look cool while peering down dilated vaginal shafts. They do so to protect themselves from any unexpected discharges of virus and bacteria laden fluids and aerosols from the vaginal and / or anus. [/QUOTE]Who says its dead?

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2181696]Actually, the questions the doctor asked about eating pussy were quite serious and logical. Gonorrheal conjunctivitis can be acquired from eating pussy in the bottom position when infectious vaginal fluids and cum drips into the eyes of the monger, or the infected girl farts in his face causing aerosolized gonococcal bacteria to come into contact with the conjunctiva. Eating pussy in the top position is a bit less risky, as far as the eyes are concerned unless the girl squirts in the monger's face. It may be a good idea for cunnilingus connoisseurs to inquire as to whether the recipient of their lingual attentions squirts, to avoid being blindsided by a blast of vaginal fluids to the eyes.

Gynecologists do not wear surgical masks and safety glasses just to look cool while peering down dilated vaginal shafts. They do so to protect themselves from any unexpected discharges of virus and bacteria laden fluids and aerosols from the vaginal and / or anus. They would rather not take an infectious squirt or fart to the face, mouth, eyes, and nostrils.[/QUOTE]This comment was posted by someone who previously suggested that a "drug resistant" strain of Gonorrhea was incurable, when in fact the phrase "Drug resistant" only means that. This poster suggested that this strain of VD would cause you to lose your genitals as a result.

But, the term "Drug Resistant" means just that (in case you didn't get it the first time) In other words, a single shot of an antibiotic or a 3-day scrip of some mundane antibiotic won't work. A friend of mine's mom has contracted a "drug resistant" strain of TB, which is a rare disease in the Western world these days. So her mom won't be able to take the standard medication the CDC gives away for free. She will have to pay for a series of injections of high powered antibiotics to clear that up. Better than the old days when TB put you in the hospital for months at a time and the US government operated a chain of "Chest Hospitals" for TB patients who lived there while enduring ongoing treatment.

People, perform your own due diligence. Venereal disease is a serious matter, but it doesn't need to be hijacked by misinformation on the internet, when in fact the internet offers a lot of good, factual info if you bother to look hard enough past the first page of a google search.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2181762] .......................... "Swimming in vaginal sewers".[/QUOTE]Quote of the year, so far.

This can not be serious. A board certified US doctor said you got sick from low temperature in a movie theater? You can't get sick from cold temps. That's insanity. You get sick from a virus or from bacteria. Neither of which is temperature dependent.

All of life is a risk / reward system. Is barebacking worth the risk? Depends on what you perceive the reward to be.

I was in AC 2 months ago for 10 days. I'm still trying to get up the gumption to write a trip report. My reports are long and detailed. I had 13 girls, some pros, some non. One condom. I took doxycycline for the entire trip. Got full tests 2 weeks after my return, all clean. Cranberry juice, going [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], brushing teeth, all mostly nonsense. Rely on solid science to protect us all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2181421]Still don't understand why you are attributing your illness to this. I have lived in Thailand for 8 years and have never not brushed my teeth with the water in the bathroom sink and have gone down on tons of chicks and never anything like you describe. Probably just a normal virus and nothing to do with going down on that girl.

Last July I was with a chick and got sick as a dog. The chick got sick too. Figured I must have gotten it from her. I went to the doctor in Thailand and got medicine and it did not clear up. When I got to the USA a week later I went to the doctor still pretty sick. He said it was not from the chick, but because it was too cold in the movie theater that we had went to and to bring a jacket next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2181762] the other wanted unprotected sex with me even though I was fighting a mild chlamydia infection from her and / or someone else. Swimming in vaginal sewers.[/QUOTE]Do you not see the contradiction in your writing? (I initially wrote "thinking," but I would characterize what you are doing here as writing without thinking.) Presumably you contracted chlamydia from bareback fucking, which you apparently did with more than one woman, since you don't know who gave it to you. Yet you characterize Filipina vaginas as sewers. If you believe Filipina vaginas are this disease-ridden, then your barebacking takes on a masochistic character. It's also illogical that you wanted to cover up after you showed signs of chlamydia but not as a preventative measure before dipping into these vaginal sewers. Furthermore, since the symptoms of chlamydia often take several weeks to appear, did you give any consideration to the women you barebacked during the period your chlamydia was incubating? And how about the poor suckers who had sex with the women you exposed to the infection?

The person you are quoting is well known for posting unfiltered hyperbole. This person may do this intentionally—to provoke others—or because the individual is mentally ill and just can't help it. Eszpresszo has aptly pointed out errors in this person's hyperbolic post. Please follow Eszpresszo's advice and get reliable information about STIs. The intentions of the person you are quoting have little in common with sharing accurate information. Here is one reliable source:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm[/URL]

A couple points in the interest of full disclosure:

I once contracted chlamydia from a Filipina who gave me bareback deepthroat. My own approach was to totally abstain from sex until lab tests showed it was gone, even though I was in Metro Manila at the time and there were many opportunities. I fuck bareback only with women I know extremely well.

Finally, I do avidly engage in DATY, but I observe and smell closely before I engage. And, as in my recent post about pubic hair as spatter protection, I sometimes offer such posts as a cynical stick in the eye to people who offer uninformed stigmatic opinions about cunnilingus. I apologize if you found my post offensive.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2181782]Who says its dead?[/QUOTE]Or perhaps alien life forms might crawl out.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2182024]Do you not see the contradiction in your writing? (I initially wrote "thinking," but I would characterize what you are doing here as writing without thinking.) Presumably you contracted chlamydia from bareback fucking, which you apparently did with more than one woman, since you don't know who gave it to you. Yet you characterize Filipina vaginas as sewers. If you believe Filipina vaginas are this disease-ridden, then your barebacking takes on a masochistic character. It's also illogical that you wanted to cover up after you showed signs of chlamydia but not as a preventative measure before dipping into these vaginal sewers. Furthermore, since the symptoms of chlamydia often take several weeks to appear, did you give any consideration to the women you barebacked during the period your chlamydia was incubating? And how about the poor suckers who had sex with the women you exposed to the infection?

The person you are quoting is well known for posting unfiltered hyperbole. This person may do this intentionallyto provoke othersor because the individual is mentally ill and just can't help it. Eszpresszo has aptly pointed out errors in this person's hyperbolic post. Please follow Eszpresszo's advice and get reliable information about STIs. The intentions of the person you are quoting have little in common with sharing accurate information. Here is one reliable source:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm[/URL]

A couple points in the interest of full disclosure:

I once contracted chlamydia from a Filipina who gave me bareback deepthroat. My own approach was to totally abstain from sex until lab tests showed it was gone, even though I was in Metro Manila at the time and there were many opportunities. I fuck bareback only with women I know extremely well.

Finally, I do avidly engage in DATY, but I observe and smell closely before I engage. And, as in my recent post about pubic hair as spatter protection, I sometimes offer such posts as a cynical stick in the eye to people who offer uninformed stigmatic opinions about cunnilingus. I apologize if you found my post offensive.[/QUOTE]With regard to your intemperate post.

1. ChochaMonger writes well. He seems on the money on this point.

2. Many who get STIs, chlamydia in this case, display no symptoms. I did and went to the hospital immediately and reported on it here as an act of public service. The most time that could have been between me contracting it and going on anti-biotics was a week and, that episode with condoms apart, I had neither sex nor alcohol until I got the medical all clear.

3. I teamed up with the two (they tracked me down for $$) and gave them condoms and a sex lecture precisely because I had been with them. That was almost a year ago now, I owuld be pretty sure both are heavily diseased by others now. I gave one of them a whole pile of anti biotics but I doubt they helped long term.

4. You, in your sanctimony, miss the main point. Pampanga is a sewer of STIs and few women care about it. Most become asymptotic and will pass on the diseases in this crapshoot of crabs.

5. I like barebacking. I am aware of the risks and I easily become complacent. I will accept anything that comes m,why way as my own fault.

6. You engage in DATY and depend on your nose, like you are a specially trained bloodhound. Get real before you get herpes.

7. I note you admit how offensive you are. That is one of the reasons I prefer not to mix too much with mongers. I find m,any of them ignorant and uninformed.

8. I will be in Angeles in a few days' time and I will play it by ear, abstaining from drink when looking for cut prize meat, playing the odds a little bit, promising not to bareback but knowing I love it and will probably cream them up.

10. On the related matter of Viagra etc, I no longer use them and prefer to act my age, in performance at least. I intend to ease myself out of this hobby but I have been intending that for 20 od years now.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2182024].......I fuck bareback only with women I know extremely well.......[/QUOTE]All well and good but do they fuck bareback only with men they know extremely well?

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2182024]The person you are quoting is well known for posting unfiltered hyperbole. This person may do this intentionallyto provoke othersor because the individual is mentally ill and just can't help it. Eszpresszo has aptly pointed out errors in this person's hyperbolic post. Please follow Eszpresszo's advice and get reliable information about STIs. The intentions of the person you are quoting have little in common with sharing accurate information. Here is one reliable source:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yes, though I also suggest going beyond government agencies and try to find info on contraction directly from researchers. Why? Because government agencies are run by public health administrators who have a different agenda from an actual medical science researcher. The problem with public health administrators is they are often not medical scientists, if they are even doctors at all. They have an agenda, first and foremost to cover their ass, and if that means overstating the risk of some activities, then so be it. Or to put it more politely, they are apt to err on the side of caution. Scientists also have their agenda, and they are known to be competitive with each other and often very ego-driven. However, a scientist's credibility is based on their ability to deliver empirical evidence of their findings instead of mere theory. They aren't allowed to fudge things.

I'm not suggesting that we underestimate the risk of sex with prostitutes. Rather, I am suggesting that we look hard to what is presented to us and be ready to be skeptical of anything that doesn't come from a truly scientific source. That means being wary of things you read on various dodgy web sites as well as unqualified opinions here on this forum.

By the way, here is the CDC on whether or no you can get AIDS from oral sex:

"However, it is hard to know the exact risk because a lot of people who have oral sex also have anal or vaginal sex. The type of oral sex that may be the riskiest is mouth-to-penis oral sex."

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html[/URL]

Note the use of the phrase "may be", which is typical bureaucratic vagueness. I can no longer find the webpages, but I found two different articles where a medical scientist was queried on whether or not HIV could be transmitted from oral sex. Their answers were respectively, "No" and "Its possible, but extremely unlikely".

Peruse this page by the CDC on transmission of STDs via oral sex:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL]

But look at the statement in regards to giving oral sex to a female. Under the tab for each disease, there is a statement that says "Giving oral sex to a woman with an infected vagina or urinary tract may result in getting (insert disease name here) in the throat.

However the asterisk is for a footnote which explains "* Statements followed by an asterisk have not been well studied. " In other words, they aren't sure of anything, hence the use of the word MAY instead of CAN or WILL. More bureaucratic vagueness in these warnings, in the absence of clear scientific data.

But, I won't be jingoistic here and I will quote the NHS on the topic of transmission through oral sex:

STIs that are commonly caught through oral sex are:

Gonorrhoea.

Genital herpes.

Syphilis.

Infections that are less frequently passed on through oral sex include:

Chlamydia.

HIV.

Hepatitis A, hepatitis be and hepatitis see.

Genital warts.

Pubic lice.

[URL]https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/970.aspx?CategoryID=118[/URL]

Note how the NHS cites a low transmission of HIV via oral sex while other sources flat outright minimize the risk.

As for contracting Hepatitis A from anilingus, its ridiculous to even talk about it, when there is a common vaccination for Hep A, that is typically bundled with the Hep be vaccine. Most kids in America get vaccinated for both at the pre-K age and a booster later in their early adolescence. The dual vaccination is requested upon enrollment in public schools in most places in the US. The HPV vaccine is now required of teenage girls to be admitted to public schools in some places.

Some of these things are totally avoidable by getting these vaccines. If you can get vaccinated against a STD, there doesn't need to be any discussion of getting it. I love getting and receiving analingus. I have been vaccinated, so I won't be giving or receiving hepatitis from butt munching. If we can get a vaccine for HepC, another major risk will be reduced. Its my understanding that it is being researched at this time. In any case, if you don't have the Hepatitis A / B vaccine, then go get it! Unlike Syphillis, Gonorrhea and Chlamydia there is no simple cure, making them seem like minor inconveniences in comparison.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2182158]Yes, though I also suggest going beyond government agencies and try to find info on contraction directly from researchers. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your "temperate" and well-researched post. I have known some researchers who also hedge their answers, simply because it's difficult in experimental designs to control all the potential compounding factors. And I suspect much of the research is from reports turned in by government health agencies, which means from reported cases that walk into health clinics, and many of the data for these cases are self-reported rather than from controlled experiments.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2182127]All well and good but do they fuck bareback only with men they know extremely well?[/QUOTE]In the case of sexual partners, having a very good knowledge of their sexual activities is implied in my definition of knowing them extremely well. If I'm not sure, I cover up. Obviously people lie and deceive, as reported frequently in this forum, so knowing with 100% certainty about others' behavior is not possible. But minimizing risk by being well informed and observant seems to me like a reasonable aspiration.

I'd known her for eight years. She was a short time queen. Wanted to score 3 per night and then would come sleep with me long time. As she has aged she hooked up with a Canadian who gave a monthly stipend to get her to quit the business. He worked in another country but had many friends where she worked so she could not work the bar scene. Of course when I was in country she would still see me.

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering. We have been bare backing for almost a year now. Actually it has seemed to make our relationship closer (yes, I treat WGs as real people with real feelings). She doesn't bare back her Canuck because he is not cut.

So the point is. There are circumstances where you can set up a safe bare back relationship.

Cumming inside her feels so good.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2182218]I'd known her for eight years. She was a short time queen. Wanted to score 3 per night and then would come sleep with me long time. As she has aged she hooked up with a Canadian who gave a monthly stipend to get her to quit the business. He worked in another country but had many friends where she worked so she could not work the bar scene. Of course when I was in country she would still see me.

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering. We have been bare backing for almost a year now. Actually it has seemed to make our relationship closer (yes, I treat WGs as real people with real feelings). She doesn't bare back her Canuck because he is not cut.

So the point is. There are circumstances where you can set up a safe bare back relationship.

Cumming inside her feels so good.[/QUOTE]Of course, the Canadian is the only one being deceived and sold dreams of exclusivity because a prostitute is very trustworthy, and would never dream of telling every monger the same lie.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;2180938]And since it provides absolutely no stimulation to one's erectile tissue, situated principally at the head of one's dick, it is utterly pointless.[/QUOTE]While this is true for the majority of men, some fellas with a broken boner tend to have their erectile tissue principally at the tip of their tongues. The condition is analogous to the one that afflicted the protagonist in Deep Throat, specifically having her clitoris located deep in her throat.