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[QUOTE=Villainy;2629449]You are quite correct. And there are a few others who follow the same path. They can't formulate a reasonable argument or logical premise so they alter what was (said) written to provide them with a platform to argue what they want.[/QUOTE]I see that the Dunning-Kruger Effect is in full swing. The two American libtards are buss stroking each others already bloated egos.
Little do they know that the rest of the world are laughing at how uneducated and arrogant they are.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2629449]You are quite correct. And there are a few others who follow the same path. They can't formulate a reasonable argument or logical premise so they alter what was (said) written to provide them with a platform to argue what they want.[/QUOTE]The straw man is clearly the favorite. The second is the fallacy of the ad nauseum, or "proof by repetition. " This is when the same fallacious arguments / lies are repeated over and over while all corrections and rebuttals are ignored. This clearly is Trump's favorite, and that of his followers by extension.
[URL]https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_nauseam[/URL]
There's many more, but if I had to pick a third favorite it would be the non-sequitur, followed by false delimmas, either / or fallacies, also called black and white thinking errors. The latter is Mr E's favorites.
[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Non-Sequitur[/URL]
[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Dilemma[/URL]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2629498]Just popping in here to take a pop and remind people how stupid low class Americans are. German engineers are the world's best. That is not in dispute. [/QUOTE]Pretty silly comment. Depending on the type of product, Germany frequently doesn't rank. The US ranks much higher, and so does China, South Korea and India.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2629498]Americans, of course, have no savings and most have no equity so they don't figure in the rainy day stakes. Too many hamburgers, not enough forward planning.[/QUOTE]An equally ignorant comment. You obviously haven't a clue how American society works. It is true that many Americans retire with next to nothing in their savings account. But they receive a livable wage from Social Security when they retire. Some still receive pensions when they retire. The rest of the working population has IRAs and 401 Ks to supplement their retirement income. Most private companies make contributions to their employees 401 K plans.
But the point many ill-informed blowhards don't understand is that Americans own homes that they have lived in for many years and the value of those homes acts as a very large 'savings account'. Many of those Americans you despise, retire, sell their house netting a small fortune and have a very comfortable retirement. You might also remember that Americans have Medicare to absorb their medical costs once they reach 65.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbiggs/2019/03/15/u-s-retirement-system-rocks-europe/?sh=22371cc063ce[/URL]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629462]But lets remind you what you actually wrote about salaries in Europe: "Those higher paying jobs that you are crowing about are largely with American companies."
Haha, its so stupid and incorrect that I have to laugh. It doesn't matter if you said a large part or all, its still just as moronic and incorrect. Embarrassing.[/QUOTE]So you now admit that you lied about what I said or perhaps had trouble reading it but now you're saying it doesn't matter that you distorted the response. OK, sure buddy.
Let me ask you something else, Elvis. Oh I mean Shoo Bree hahahaha.
If lockdowns don't work (as you've said many times before) and Europeans are so smart. Then how come Austria has just entered into a lockdown with a vaccination mandate required as of February 1st.
Slovakia has also announced a lockdown and Netherlands has introduced a partial lockdown. Belgium introduced a work from home requirement for 4 days a week. Germany has seen a recent surge and is cosidering similar type measures.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59343650[/URL]
Apparently you aren't so smart afterall. Or maybe you think you're smarter than all the Europeans governments that are taking these measures. Or maybe the reality is that you're not nearly as smart as you wish you were and you just don't know that much. Maybe I should just call you Euro-Elvis.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2629761] Pretty silly comment. Depending on the type of product, Germany frequently doesn't rank. The US ranks much higher, and so does China, South Korea and India.[/QUOTE]In engineering, to repeat, Germany and its satellite nations win. The US are just magpies. Germany's problem, as I said, is China vastly outnumbers them. That can be seen in China's advances in space and in blue water navies, which will soon clobber the Yanks and the British rust buckets.
Software is a different issue but again all the Let's Go Brandon's can do is cause dissension in China and kidnap Chinese citizens.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2629761]An equally ignorant comment. You obviously haven't a clue how American society works. It is true that many Americans retire with next to nothing in their savings account. But they receive a livable wage from Social Security when they retire. Some still receive pensions when they retire.[/QUOTE]LOL. Here is a video of the USA. Kensington Ave "the street where I live" where everyone owns their own cardboard homes [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUsdqsCMNwg&ab_channel=kimgary[/URL].
Here are home ownership rates. Cardboard land is in about place 50, though this varies in typhoon season [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate[/URL].
[QUOTE=Villainy;2629774]So you now admit that you lied about what I said or perhaps had trouble reading it but now you're saying it doesn't matter that you distorted the response. OK, sure buddy.
Let me ask you something else, Elvis. Oh I mean Shoo Bree hahahaha.
If lockdowns don't work (as you've said many times before) and Europeans are so smart. Then how come Austria has just entered into a lockdown with a vaccination mandate required as of February 1st.
Slovakia has also announced a lockdown and Netherlands has introduced a partial lockdown. Belgium introduced a work from home requirement for 4 days a week. Germany has seen a recent surge and is cosidering similar type measures.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59343650[/URL]
Apparently you aren't so smart afterall. Or maybe you think you're smarter than all the Europeans governments that are taking these measures. Or maybe the reality is that you're not nearly as smart as you wish you were and you just don't know that much. Maybe I should just call you Euro-Elvis.[/QUOTE]LMFAO, you claim to be from the US yet you can't even read and understand simple English. Its irrelevant and beside the point if you wrote "a large part" or all, it's still just as incorrect and moronic beyond belief. I for one couldn't care less. Instead of splitting hairs you should provide some evidence for your claim or just admit that you're a liar.
It's no secret that politicians are incompetent, just look at Biden! Yeah, I'm smarter than the politicians in charge, but I see that you're stupid enough to look up to them. That is laughable.
Its already been proven that lockdowns are ineffective, extremely harmful and an extreme way to punish innocent people.
You are dumber than I even thought was possible, you should come to Europe so more Europeans get to laugh at your stupidity.
What a ridiculous new system the Colombian government is imposing.
I went today to a restaurant with my brother's vax pass (I don't have one). The vax pass has a large QR code (for scanning only in the country of origin), his name, and a valid until date. It also mentions "COVID Pass" somewhere among a load of small print.
It is not possible for anyone in Colombia to read the QR code, and there are not even any details on the pass about what vaccine was taken or where etc.
I was asked "do you have a vax card? So I showed them the one that I had and I entered the restaurant with a shrug. Great protection this new system is offering.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2629498]Just popping in here to take a pop and remind people how stupid low class Americans are. German engineers are the world's best. That is not in dispute. Sweden and (belatedly) Finland are also good. Ditto Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands. Northern Italy and Austria are amongst the richest parts of Europe. There is a reason the super wealthy live in Switzerland. Italian and French brands dominate the luxury market. And you think they are all US dependent, you Walmart winker.
Germany has survived the US robbing its technology and kidnapping its engineers (Paperclip). The problem for Germany is US bullyboy tactics over its Russian deals and the threat China's amries of engineers pose. For every one engineer Germany can throw at a problem, China can throw hundreds.
America, land of fat women, does not figure.
Here is a snap shot of median (not "average" salaries, you American moron). Note Europe wins [URL]https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/median-income-by-country[/URL].
Americans, of course, have no savings and most have no equity so they don't figure in the rainy day stakes. Too many hamburgers, not enough forward planning.[/QUOTE]Its interesting to look at the value of cars imported to USA from the EU and vice versa.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/286399/eu-percentage-of-imported-vehicles-by-country-2012/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1128887/eu-car-export-value-us/[/URL]
When I lived in Silicon Valley almost all of the engineers came from Europe, India, Iran and East Asia. The USAns worked at Dunkin Donuts. LMFAO!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629896]Its interesting to look at the value of cars imported to USA from the EU and vice versa.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/286399/eu-percentage-of-imported-vehicles-by-country-2012/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1128887/eu-car-export-value-us/[/URL]
When I lived in Silicon Valley almost all of the engineers came from Europe, India, Iran and East Asia. The USAns worked at Dunkin Donuts. LMFAO![/QUOTE]Silicon valley aka the land of 3rd world slaves in the bay area.
How do you think big tech gets so rich, by "overpaying" under qualified 3rd worlders to do perfunctory / menial tasks.
But hey you made it to the Land of milk and honey, living 20 guys jammed in a 3 bedroom apt LOL.
Like the poultry and ag workers from Mexico in the USA jajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2629774]Let me ask you something else, Elvis. Oh I mean Shoo Bree hahahaha.
Or maybe you think you're smarter than all the Europeans governments that are taking these measures. Or maybe the reality is that you're not nearly as smart as you wish you were and you just don't know that much. Maybe I should just call you Euro-Elvis.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there you go again in your imagined majority. Sorry, douche, I am not Shoo Bree.
And yes, Europe is locking down again and just like I have been tired of you douches using Covid to control our lives under the guise of saving them, Europe and other places have rebelled against lockdowns. See the link: [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-join-anti-lockdown-protests-australia-amid-new-restrictions[/URL].
Nobody is listening to you douches and your "scientists" anymore.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2629893]What a ridiculous new system the Colombian government is imposing.
The vax pass has a large QR code (for scanning only in the country of origin), his name, and a valid until date. It also mentions "COVID Pass" somewhere among a load of small print.
It is not possible for anyone in Colombia to read the QR code, and there are not even any details on the pass about what vaccine was taken or where etc.
I was asked "do you have a vax card? So I showed them the one that I had and I entered the restaurant with a shrug. Great protection this new system is offering.[/QUOTE]I wonder how much Pfizer donated to the president of Colombia. He was on CNBC saying anyone spreading misinformation about the virus should be charged criminally.
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/covid-vaccines-pfizer-ceo-says-people-who-spread-misinformation-on-shots-are-criminals.html[/URL]
He said life for many people can go "back to normal" once many of the unvaccinated get vaccinated.
End of quote.
Guess he has not heard what is going on in Gibraltar. Maybe we should charge him for criminally spreading lies about the vaccine touting how great it is.
I just wonder what a restaurant is supposed to do? Is this like using a fake ID? There is no photo on my Covid card, and it can be doctored so easily and it cannot be verified in Colombia. Haven't the restaurants been through enough hell yet?
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629892]It's no secret that politicians are incompetent, just look at Biden! [B]Yeah, I'm smarter than the politicians in charge, .....[/B]. That is laughable.
Its already been proven that lockdowns are ineffective, extremely harmful and an extreme way to punish innocent people.
You are dumber than I even thought was possible, you should come to Europe so more Europeans get to laugh at your stupidity.[/QUOTE]OK Elvis. I mean ShooBreezer. One post you claim I'm too arrogant the next post you claim that Europeans are so much smarter than the rest of us. Then you turn around again and claim that [B]you[/B] are smarter than the politicians in charge of European countries. [B] You know what is best is regards to lockdowns, partial lockdowns, vaccination mandates etc. [/B]. Even though your European countries are reinstituting those same lockdowns, partial lockdowns and vaccination mandates.
Excuse my stating the obvious. But if you want a good look at arrogance, try looking in the mirror. As far as knowing what is effective in combating CoVid, you might try listening to scientists because you sure as hell don't know anything. As to you being smarter than European politicians? I doubt you're as smart as their pets.
Watch this short video. It explains so well why neo-libs in the USA are so staunchly pro-vax for everything.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At-BI1KAUJw[/URL]
Brainwashed by propaganda, paid for by Big Pharma.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2629952]Yeah, there you go again in your imagined majority. Sorry, douche, I am not Shoo Bree.
And yes, Europe is locking down again and just like I have been tired of you douches using Covid to control our lives under the guise of saving them, Europe and other places have rebelled against lockdowns. See the link: [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-join-anti-lockdown-protests-australia-amid-new-restrictions[/URL].
[B]Nobody is listening to you douches and your "scientists" anymore[/B].[/QUOTE]Yet despite all your protestations against getting vaccinated. "It has major side effects", "it doesn't prevent transmission", "it isn't effective", "it's only a political ploy" and on and on and on. Yet [B]you've been vaccinated[/B]. I guess that makes you one of the biggest hypocrites around. Or perhaps you don't believe your own BS?
[QUOTE=Villainy;2630156]Yet despite all your protestations against getting vaccinated. "It has major side effects", "it doesn't prevent transmission", "it isn't effective", "it's only a political ploy" and on and on and on. Yet [B]you've been vaccinated[/B]. I guess that makes you one of the biggest hypocrites around. Or perhaps you don't believe your own BS?[/QUOTE]I guess your tiny pea brain can only handle two POVs, Republican and Democrat, provaxx and antivaxx. MDS and I have been among the first to get vaccinated, and we have been open about that since day one.
The other part your little pea brain cannot get is that you have to be devoted to one POV despite the new data coming in. So if a treatment goes from being 88% effective to 3% effective, you have to continue to recommend that treatment even when it does not work: [URL]https://fyi.com/living/health-fitness/study-johnson-johnsons-covid-vaccine-only-3-effective-as-of-august-2021/[/URL].
And yes, no matter how much you douches scream and pout and click your heels and wish for it, the vaccine does not prevent transmission. The CDC says so and if a treatment is only 3% effective that would stand to reason.
But I have never been anti-vaxx but anti-douche. I am against almost all mandates and the bird brained one size fits all vaccine policy you dummies think is necessary. Vaccinating 5 year olds? Really? Given it does not affect transmission, I believe in freedom of choice when it comes to vaccination.
Of course, the vaccines have been political. Hell, half the reason I got vaccinated was political in that I wanted to travel. I suspected we would need vaccine cards to travel and sure enough that day has arrived.
But I never thought I would need a vaccine card to eat in a restaurant. I never imagined that things would get that stupid.