German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=TheCane;2685161]If you're going to be in Frankfurt anyway, you may as well check out Mainhatten if you've never been there. It's just too easy to get there not to go. I can't in good faith urge you to go all the way out to World though. That club used to be a "must see", but has fallen off badly in recent years.[/QUOTE]Why do you think world fall? Being far away or? It would be nice to enjoy that outside area fuck of the world that I only heard about and never experience! I only did out door fuck in gt and also in sharks a little bit in secluded tree area by the pool, but moved to inside later! So I would love nice outdoor garden fuck somewhere with good line up, but world is down I hear and only possibility is that tent thing in Oase and in Oase, there are some stunners LOL!

Globe should install some glass room on rooftop, so can be use for winter as sky open room with warmth!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2684457]We continue the flame in FKK rooms turning FKK rooms into room 101 and we as a mental and physical torturer whether we like that accurate observation or not LOL![/QUOTE]I think room 101 in 1984 was worse. Maybe some girls, with some guys, and especially if they have pimps consider it somewhat the same. But there are degrees to this. If you have that view you are writing there about FKKs, they you probably shouldn't go to FKKs. We define the world from our own image.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2684635]We have never met, but I have read the book. It was a school assignment. A long, long, long time ago! So to be honest, I don't recall much about it. I remember that it made an impression at the time, but obviously that didn't last. Ho hum! According to you, perhaps I should read it again. But, I have other books I would rather read now. Give us the full Cliff Notes version.[/QUOTE]The quick youtube video I linked gives a good summary though. It doesn't go into detail on the language used, or how the main protagonist got all his info from a guy he talked to who worked for Ingsoc (so everything could have been a lie, and Ingsoc could just be Airstrip 1 (UK). The main point is the media lies. Nor details of room 101 or other things. But as a whole, it's a good summary:

[URL]https://youtu.be/GQxOKXEff4I[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685059]I tend to like upsell clubs, so personally, I like Artemis plus palace plus Globe, the three worst clubs for up selling LOL! But I am battle hardened since day one LOL![/QUOTE]If you like upsell clubs, then you are missing out on Austria. I know two Austrian FKK clubs that will make Artemis and Palace look like budget clubs. You cannot claim being battle hardened unless you try.

Expect to pay 200 E /60 if you want BBBJ / DFK with a popular girl. Do you need some mnts after you have finished? Expect 50 E more ("massage fee"). Did you forget to ask for DATY? Pay 50 E more. Oh, don't you want to CIM? 100 E extra. Do you want anal/rimming? Yeah, imagine the prices. Makes you horny, huh? LOL!

Going rate seemed to be 200 E /60 for old school services, but expect girls to quote 250- 600 E /60 if you start acting like an amateur. There are also girls quoting 150- 180 E /60, but they are not many, honestly not attractive enough, and high risk of lesser service.

At Steve,
No, not worth it.

There are other clubs in Austria with more sensible prices (120- 140 E /60) (Wellcum being the best), but I found DFK hard to get and the travel a hassle (unless you are a Northern Italian).

The above based on experiences from 2021.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2685456]If you like upsell clubs, then you are missing out on Austria. I know two clubs that will make Artemis and Palace look like budget clubs. You cannot claim being battle hardened unless you try. LOL!

Expect to pay 200 E /60 if you want BBBJ / DFK with a popular girl. Do you need some mnts after you have finished? Expect 50 E more ("massage fee"). Did you forget to ask for DATY? Pay 50 E more. Oh, don't you want to CIM? 100 E extra. Do you want anal/rimming? Yeah, imagine the prices. Makes you horny, huh? LOL!

Going rate seemed to be 200 E /60 for old school services, but expect girls to quote 250- 600 E /60 if you start acting like an amateur. There are also girls quoting 150- 180 E /60, but they are not many and honestly not attractive enough.[/QUOTE]Austria? You talking about Babylon or golden time Vienna?

Well, for that price, I stick to globe where it is already upsell price of Germany, but negotiations done for us LOL!

One club I am missing out maybe is atmos Hamburg! I shall be there one day!

[QUOTE=Shark16;2685456]If you like upsell clubs, then you are missing out on Austria. I know two clubs that will make Artemis and Palace look like budget clubs. You cannot claim being battle hardened unless you try. LOL!

Expect to pay 200 E /60 if you want BBBJ / DFK with a popular girl. Do you need some mnts after you have finished? Expect 50 E more ("massage fee"). Did you forget to ask for DATY? Pay 50 E more. Oh, don't you want to CIM? 100 E extra. Do you want anal/rimming? Yeah, imagine the prices. Makes you horny, huh? LOL!

Going rate seemed to be 200 E /60 for old school services, but expect girls to quote 250- 600 E /60 if you start acting like an amateur. There are also girls quoting 150- 180 E /60, but they are not many and honestly not attractive enough..[/QUOTE]Where is this in Austria? When 70/30 in Wellcum but quite low GFE, 100/30 in GT Vienna but real GFE and on my Mystic discovery, 100/30 for GFE. My experiences. But I have deeper GFE at Gold for 80/60. I really wish I can meet her again after my ski tour.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685467]Austria? You talking about Babylon or golden time Vienna?[/QUOTE]Yeah ..., well, read my 2021 reports if you must.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685467]Well, for that price, I stick to globe where it is already upsell price of Germany, but negotiations done for us LOL![/QUOTE]Wait ...!?!?? You just claimed preference for upsell clubs, you battle hardened man! You are really confusing us. LOL!

You always seemed to be one of the highrollers with preference for expensive things in life to make sure you get the quality you need. And that's ok. If you have the money, go for it. I just hope you are not ending up as a 30 mnts rabbit to save costs. It's not the same thing.

A funny story from 2021:

After trying out some expensive clubs in Austria barely getting away with 200 E /60 sessions without annoying hardsell, I went to a club near the Italian border called Wellcum. Guess what, the lineup was even larger og stronger than any of the expensive clubs I had seen in Austria! I just had to try one of the top optics. She performed excellent (save for DFK)! No upsell. Sweaty and fun. 140 E /60. Not believing my luck I had to try a 2nd girl. She was just as hot. She too performed excellent with all old school services (save for DFK). No upsell. 140 E /60. I tried a 3rd girl. And a 4th. And a 5th. Same thing!

None of the girls DFK (just soft kisses on the lips), but I knew that before I went there as the Italians have the reputation, falsely or not, that they avoid DFK when enjoying the hobby. Consequently, the clubs around the Italian border attract girls that will not provide this service. On the other hand, Italians have the reputation of enjoying services around other body parts that seem to be the preference of you and Mr. Cane. You know, FIA for free, COB for free, and other "interesting" offers. Just saying ...

Weird, huh? Paying 140 E for the exact same thing as is quoted 200 E elsewhere. Is that even possible? Am I fooling myself? Leading others on? I bet there is something wrong with me. Please don't take my story too seriously.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2685467]One club I am missing out maybe is atmos Hamburg! I shall be there one day![/QUOTE]Hamburg, huh? Yeah, been there done that. I hope you find what you are looking for. My last trip was in 2003. I am not going back.

Fair winds. I wish you an enjoyable trip wherever you decide to go.

- S16.
Still singing "Ich kenne ein Land, so reich und so schoen, ..."

[QUOTE=Shark16;2685827]Yeah ..., well, read my 2021 reports if you must.

Wait ...!?!?? You just claimed preference for upsell clubs, you battle hardened man! You are really confusing us. LOL!

You always seemed to be one of the highrollers with preference for expensive things in life to make sure you get the quality you need. And that's ok. If you have the money, go for it. I just hope you are not ending up as a 30 mnts rabbit to save costs. It's not the same thing.

A funny story from 2021:

After trying out some expensive clubs in Austria barely getting away with 200 E /60 sessions without annoying hardsell, I went to a club near the Italian border called Wellcum. Guess what, the lineup was even larger og stronger than any of the expensive clubs I had seen in Austria! I just had to try one of the top optics. She performed excellent (save for DFK)! No upsell. Sweaty and fun. 140 E /60. Not believing my luck I had to try a 2nd girl. She was just as hot. She too performed excellent with all old school services (save for DFK). No upsell. 140 E /60. I tried a 3rd girl. And a 4th. And a 5th. Same thing![/QUOTE]I prefer upsell clubs because that is where I tend to find the girls who are stunner level beauty, I assume stunner go where the money is!

As for you getting totally ripped off in Austrian FKK, by reading your post, it is your attitude, human skill and also you must get better at your limited negotiation skill, then life won't be that bad in upsell clubs, if not you get what you got, the crazy rates LOL!

Your last trip to Hamburg was in 2003 ? Well if it is at least 2013, it may count a bit, but if it is 2003 as you wrote then it does not count LOL!

Get your attitude sorted, increase your communication ability and level up your limited negotiation skill, then the price you pay at upsell clubs like the ones you mentioned will be fair enough and you won't be ripped off like you did LOL! Weak men get eaten for breakfast and taken in advantage like you did in up sell clubs, remember that, but it can be best place if one knows what he is doing LOL!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2685438]The quick youtube video I linked gives a good summary though. It doesn't go into detail on the language used, or how the main protagonist got all his info from a guy he talked to who worked for Ingsoc (so everything could have been a lie, and Ingsoc could just be Airstrip 1 (UK). The main point is the media lies. Nor details of room 101 or other things. But as a whole, it's a good summary:

[URL]https://youtu.be/GQxOKXEff4I[/URL][/QUOTE]It is called civilian control and I personally think it is very necessarily thing in society because some people need some guidance in life and the world we live in!

Religions are the first type of civilian control, it is lunatic stories they sell to you, but many people believe it to the extent they wage war about which imaginary figure is better than others basically LOL!

My religion is the best, mongering is my religion LOL! Stunners pussy, anal, tits and mouth fix a lot of things, the best healing LOL!

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2686339]Bro, You need to stop using this word in every other sentence. It's a weird word to describe prostitutes, and makes you sound like a desperate newb.

I've frequented FKKs on and off for many years before COVID, and I promise none of the ladies working in those places fit that description even then. Much less so now. Best looking FKK workers is a 7, 7.5 at best. You can keep feeding yourself fantasies that you're screwing 9-10 models, but you're not. And you will never find them at FKKs.[/QUOTE]Hehe, yeah.

I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686510]Hehe, yeah.

I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.[/QUOTE]Kate who I saw at GT and are with an 8? A 5 in my book if I am nice. There we go.

For reference, Barbie is the holder of the butt / back on the left in this picture:

[URL]https://gnocca.pro/media/kunena/attachments/3269/AD1B3376-C2BA-44B7-988A-3DCBE115886A.jpeg[/URL]

The middle is Lorena (still active), and Nia who I haven't spotted in awhile on the right. One is insanely picky if you rate any of these 3 less than a 9 on their best days. But Barbie was perhaps a 10. I just mention her and not maybe 10 other FKK girls because of the easy link some have made to well known Elsa Jean in looks. But I would argue she is or was even hotter. How good they are in the room is personal chemistry and other things, so that is totally different.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686510]Hehe, yeah.

I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.[/QUOTE]2015? That was the year I kept pointing out that was turning point of line up quality declining, 2010 ish to 2014 were much better years for line up quality with more diverse line up with stunner level girls from Poland and Czech that we no longer find anymore as their nations economy got better I guess? I was fortunate enough to taste the last batch of polish stunners when I first found FKK in 2009, then about around 2012, polish stunners just vanished and now I rarely see Polish anymore or Czech!

Well, we still got Romanian that have some stunner level beauties and let us enjoy them while it last, but with this war going on and destroying economy of surrounding nations and EU right after pandemic destroy economy! It is good for mongering scene as more stunner levels from all over the region can be expected in line up for us mongers to taste!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686510]Hehe, yeah.

I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.[/QUOTE]True, possibly a handful of eights pre-COVID, but those days seem to be gone at least for now. Also, it's extremely rare for the top looking FKK girls to also provide top level of service. More often than not they're quite mechanical and I forget about sex with them a week later. That's why I generally consider FKKs to be "McDonalds of sex" - it's cheap, scratches an itch and gets the job done quickly and with minimal effort. But it's nothing like dining at a Michelin grade restaurant. And I'd never brag about screwing those girls or refer to them as "stunners."

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686510]Hehe, yeah.

I'd be more generous though and say I used to consistently find eights. Girls like Aca / GT Kate, Gold / GT / LR Luana, Oase's Beatrice, and easily the top 6-7 girls of 2015-2017 Sharks, 2015-2016 Globe, and 2017 Welcum. A couple of 9's over the years. One Emma at Oase for sure and Nastia at Sharks was pretty close to a 9 for me.[/QUOTE]There were plenty of 9's if we are talking body. Faces? Not so much. Still, yes, plenty of 7's and 8's, for sure. Not many 9's if we compare them to the cutest girls on college campuses or going for an evening walk on Champs Elysee.

The main question is what is 10? If a 10 is Christine Brinkley, Miranda Kerr type models or Miss World levels and we work backwards from there, yeah even the best FKK girls probably were not 7's never mind 8's.

But then again, there will always be dudes who will say supermodels and miss worlds are not the best for sex, although safe to say no one posting here has fucked any such girls. Within FKKs, there is Little correlation between the best looks and the best service (used to be that way, things may have changed now).