Bangkok Reports

Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1397582]It is obviously we live in different worlds when it comes to Bangkok and its freelancemarket. I have been rather active in this market the last 7-8 years, so naturaly I can not speak of how things were prior to this. I can also admit I have not been so much in the Nana parking but been in the area browsing and walking. My normal pickup places (Climax, CM2, Bangkok Beat, Thermae, Insomnia (infinity) , Mixx, Shock, Spasso, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Q-bar, Levels (rather new) and on rare occations RCA are and Route66 and so on. I have also sometimes (not so often) picked up girls from the streets but I have been around so I can spot them from a distance as well even if I don't pick them. I also like to add in almost 50% of my time spend in BKK I have a fairly number of regular girls I like to hang out and in with to add certain normality into my life. I am in BKK 10 to 15 times a year (avarage) so I would say I am in possition to atleast add my 2 cents when it comes to quote actual poster.

I have in all honesty not seen a dramatic change when it comes to number of ladies and beauty (and yes I am aware that beauty is in the eye of the beholder). Even prices haven't changed much in my listed places. There are no problem to meet girls ranging from 6 to 9 in these places. Prices may vary from from location to location but have been the same many years (I talk about girlprices).

So even if I never have seen the hordes of SW around Nana I still feel there are atleast the same ammount of girls to choose from in my type of mongering. Evenings in Soi 11 I also see a lot of street girls ready for pick up. You also have quite a lot of girls standing outside Thermae and I see some pick up girls every now and then walking from Soi 11 toward Soi 3 (odd number side). But this is not meant to argue your post just enlighten readers of my observations as I think things are not so negative. And Elena sitting outside Subway in Soi 7 will allways be around.

Ofcourse Thailand in the future will change and most likely to worse for us with untreatable mongerhabits. But so far still good.

I pay on avarage 3K for LT sessions exp from Spasso (4 to 6K LT). LT sessions are without timelimitations but will range from an allnighter until, in rare cases, the break of afternoon. ST sessions (and in my case mostly for daytime use) I pay 1 to 2K. Mostly picked up from Beergarden or Gullivers (late afternoon).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Catbird;1397663]Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.[/QUOTE]She has been written about here a couple of times but to my knowledge no actual FRs. She is just not to my tastes but if you decide to sample I'm sure many would like to read about it. VFM?

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1397667]She has been written about here a couple of times but to my knowledge no actual FRs. She is just not to my tastes but if you decide to sample I'm sure many would like to read about it. VFM?[/QUOTE]Not sure she's to my tastes either, but she does look interesting. If I go there I'll let you know.

[QUOTE=Oidar; 1397635]It used to be that falangs who moved here had money. Old soldiers, government workers, big pensions, etc. Girls used to believe they could meet a nice guy. Move back home, and live the dream. Which is eating and texting.

Now the falangs that live here are lost souls. Crazy men with very few morals. Not here to raise a family, not here to make a great fortune, just here to raise fucking hell. Horny White Devils. That is why girlfriend effect is dying. They know you are not the one, they know you will probably never give them money again.

Just a few years ago I remember going to the nightclubs, and before the night was over a good looking girl would have her tongue in my mouth. And I would do nothing but walk around drunk in shorts and sandals. It is not like that now, and it never will be again.[/QUOTE]I love BKK for a week or 2.

Maybe 30 years ago soldiers and Govt. Workers could afford it. No way now.

I have a great pension, but would never move to BKK. Way too much smog, heat, traffic. The cost for a nice upscale Apt. Is almost the same I would pay in California.

Also, the nightclub action you use to get is true. But the girls don't have to act that way now. Way too many Asian tourists and businessman lowering the bar for services and the girls realize they don't have to put out in those places as much anymore.

I don't see the the majority of Falang living in BKK as crazy. There are a few. Pattaya definitely most are nuts.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1397674]I have a great pension, but would never move to BKK. Way too much smog, heat, traffic. The cost for a nice upscale Apt. Is almost the same I would pay in California.[/QUOTE]Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.

[QUOTE=Marcos;1397693]Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.[/QUOTE]With a generalisation that is not very sensible. Bangkok does not suck. To many people it is a dynamic vibrant city. It has hard core of sex areas which 90 percent of the population never visit

(Thais have their own brothel area).

But if you are spending time on here with useful information please don't insult Bangkok and the Thais.

I know I'll be doing plenty of mongering but what at times I want to sightsee and shop around. I'm looking for perhaps iPhone cases, toys (the repeating hamster that repeats everything you say and is uber cute) , converters and things of that nature. Where would you guys go in BKK to buy that. If the clerk is cute maybe hook up later would be a plus. Would that be Chinatown? If so where?

[QUOTE=Oidar; 1397635]It used to be that falangs who moved here had money. Old soldiers, government workers, big pensions, etc. Girls used to believe they could meet a nice guy. Move back home, and live the dream. Which is eating and texting.

Now the falangs that live here are lost souls. Crazy men with very few morals. Not here to raise a family, not here to make a great fortune, just here to raise fucking hell. Horny White Devils. That is why girlfriend effect is dying. They know you are not the one, they know you will probably never give them money again.

Just a few years ago I remember going to the nightclubs, and before the night was over a good looking girl would have her tongue in my mouth. And I would do nothing but walk around drunk in shorts and sandals. It is not like that now, and it never will be again.[/QUOTE]Nah, it is simply more expensive and the girl's expectations are far higher, and there are dudes willing to meet those expectations. There are still guys here with money.

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1397564]The ongoing mood is right. Bangkok is not anymore what it was, and chances are it will never be again.

What a difference compared to just two years ago, when young, dressed up and sexy SWs were standing in hordes as one exited down the tollway to get to Nana. I went to the same place and there are only buses parked there now.

Or when I did go to Insanity with a lady from Pattaya, and it was easy to get the number of another beauty in three seconds then go dining the following day, the rest it did not happen but was not a matter of money or bad attitude, not at all. I did go yesterday and most girls are either plain ugly, or kinda hardcore, or not inviting, on top of that the male / female ratio is all wrong. The only good note, getting in from the restaurant works and saves one 140 B. On the 1st drink.

There, I picked a very average looking one for 1500, only to send her back home with 300 afters things started going downhill very quickly. Standard request is 2K, rendered performances is a bet.

Nana liquid was not any better. Bamboo is scaring from outside already. Fill here other FL places if you know.

Some of the girls sitting by Nana parking may look cute, but they come inexperienced and practical zero will to please. Letting language issue aside.

Then you can stroll Sukhumvit up and down all night but I unless you've got twisted tastes, there will be nothing palatable.

About bars, spa's and go-go's, to which normally I don't go, others have given us the lowdown already.

Which options are we left with? Make a move with the maid, or probably just getting deeper wallets.[/QUOTE]Well stated and I agree with you. It has changed, and the changes will continue. Bangkok is a very dynamic city, and not just in the P4P scene. Globalization has brought an unfortunate sameness across the planet. We are seeing the WalMarting of the sex industry and the complete commercialization of Thailand. Some may live it; I myself do not.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1397710]I know I'll be doing plenty of mongering but what at times I want to sightsee and shop around. I'm looking for perhaps iPhone cases, toys (the repeating hamster that repeats everything you say and is uber cute) , converters and things of that nature. Where would you guys go in BKK to buy that. If the clerk is cute maybe hook up later would be a plus. Would that be Chinatown? If so where?[/QUOTE]MBK center (just google it) has more gadgets and iphone cases and converters than anywhere else on the planet.

BTS (Skytrain) stop is National Stadium.

Also Pantip Plaza. But it's not as convenient to BTS.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1397703]With a generalisation that is not very sensible. Bangkok does not suck. To many people it is a dynamic vibrant city. It has hard core of sex areas which 90 percent of the population never visit

(Thais have their own brothel area).

But if you are spending time on here with useful information please don't insult Bangkok and the Thais.[/QUOTE]"Dynamic vibrant" compares well to "Full figured curvaceous beauty". You know what that means.

There is no insult, it is just simply an ugly, dirty, polluted, congested huge city without any major attraction and no quality of life unless one lives retreated 24/7 in a luxury apartment or spa. I'm surprised by how many tourists it attracts, and sincerely doubt that any will be back a 2nd time. I'm sorry if you live here and got convinced yourself of the contrary.

I've lived in and visited the capitals of many other countries, some 1st word, some not. All were infinitely better than Bangkok.
Some "ranking", Bangkok is nowhere to be found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_Survey

[QUOTE=Marcos;1397693]Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Am in gorgeous SoCal right now. And LOVING IT!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1397713]Nah, it is simply more expensive and the girl's expectations are far higher, and there are dudes willing to meet those expectations. There are still guys here with money.[/QUOTE]Falang with "real money" do not have to do silly shit like report to immigration every 90 days. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I can you tell you first hand everytime I go it is swamped with broke motherfuckers.

On occasion I still go out to P4P venues from high end to low end, but not for sex. Just to drink and act stupid. Most of the time I'm stoned. So, I don't say much. However, my friends are complete assholes. Cat calling, negotiating prices just for kicks, speaking crude Thai, running off other punters, arguing about the bills. All in a night's fun.

And we are not the only ones.

[QUOTE=Catbird;1397663]Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.[/QUOTE]If I don't remember terrible wrong I mean I read a post inside here not to long ago (within a month or so) of a fellow mongerer who had ST with Elena back at her place (Soi 24 I think it was). He was satisfied with her performance if I remember correctly. I agree she looks like a hardned workinggirl but I did talk to her my last trip and she was actually quite nice to talk to (I only bought her some Sub food which she did appreciate). She had good mood and was cheerful (oposite to many of her fellow Russian brothers / sisters). In fairly dimmed light setting outside Subway nighttime she does not look to bad (I don't talk her down but I can't remember seen her in broad daylight). Atleast I have seen worse looking girls in same light settings. I have never seen her standing so I don't know how she is bodywice. So big Kudos to the first detailed FR from bedhumping with Elena. I look forward to that one (no, I will not take her to write that report, sorry).

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1397715]Well stated and I agree with you. It has changed, and the changes will continue. Bangkok is a very dynamic city, and not just in the P4P scene. Globalization has brought an unfortunate sameness across the planet. We are seeing the WalMarting of the sex industry and the complete commercialization of Thailand. Some may live it; I myself do not.[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with you. Western countries are not what they used to be and meanwhile wealth has flown out to rest of the world resulting in higher rates and low availability. I paced up and down on sukhumvit several times and could not find evrn one girl to my liking. All below 3/10.

I am afraid it is only going to become even more uglier (pun not intended)