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[QUOTE=Dante702;2206656]Well. Late FR because I already wrote my FR some weeks ago, and when I posted, the website said I wasn't logged in. It already logged me out.
[/QUOTE]To prevent this from happening check the box next to 'remember me' when you log in.
Furthermore I always copy (ctrl-C) the text I have written before I hit the post button, just to make sure I still have it when anything goes wrong.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2206862]The shuttle bus should be reliable but can run late due to traffic.
Depending on traffic it can take 20+ minutes from T1 to T3.
Looking forward to your report.[/QUOTE]And depends on weather and depends on all sorts of chaotic stuff that I have experienced. Is why when I need to transfer I use alternate means now DG.
As for yous last comment. Do you still believe in Santa LOL.
I will be arriving after a 12 hour flight followed by a 2 hour flight. I don't think I will be bothered trying to get the shuttle even if it is right in front of me. Taxi to T3, Genesis bus straight to AC and a few hours of sleep before evening. Thanks all for the bus info.
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[QUOTE=Dante702;2206656]WeChat - 4 massage girls booked for 400 php per hour, two fucked short time without asking extra, I just gave what I gave, which was 1 k, avoided conversation about pay, and just tried to seduce them, saying watch tv or movie with me, and cuddle. I'm young / attractive, so YMMV. 1 girl wouldn't saying she was expensive, always offering handjob, but she wouldn't budge, for sex so I just dumped her for 1 HR no tip, no massage. One massage girl, who I really liked, I talked into sex, gave her 3 k, because I wanted a higher chance for repeats. Medium time. Not short but not long.[/QUOTE]There seems to be some massage girls that are truly independent, others are organised. Obviously the independents are better value and will take up the offer of being treated nicely.
The girls that are part of a network are all business and the boss wants their cut of the money.
For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2206944]And depends on weather and depends on all sorts of chaotic stuff that I have experienced. Is why when I need to transfer I use alternate means now DG.
As for yous last comment. Do you still believe in Santa LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL.
I do believe in Pinay multi-level marketing. Still haven't stepped in to a bar yet. Had new referral yesterday and a new one coming this morning. Excuse me while I take my vitamin V.
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For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.[/QUOTE]I have noticed that the networked and managed girls are texting in a more formal way and are usually addressing you with 'sir' on WeChat.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2207300]I have noticed that the networked and managed girls are texting in a more formal way and are usually addressing you with 'sir' on WeChat.[/QUOTE]But I cut to the chase and tell them that I want to fuck. (I have posted screenshots of it before). They say well here is a list of girls to choose from sir. How much is it? 3000 pesos only sir. No that is too much. Tell me really how much it is. 1500 pesos only sir.
[QUOTE=PinaLove;2207153]There seems to be some massage girls that are truly independent, others are organised. Obviously the independents are better value and will take up the offer of being treated nicely.
The girls that are part of a network are all business and the boss wants their cut of the money.
For the massage girls that have a price list on their wechat profile I think they are the networked and managed girls.[/QUOTE]None of mine were independents, or so they claim. Sometimes I thought they were independent but said they live in a house and pay rent / give a cut, and the bulk of what they earn is from tips or extra services.
I've only met one that was all business and she was only all business after our first encounter, probably because I was only giving her P1000, and I had messaged her while she was nearby, on the way to another client. She just shoved me into her schedule apparently.
I would think the business minded ones would enjoy the break to be treated nicely as well, mine seem to have. I do my best to break girls out of the business transaction mindset, get them to pause, and see this as a different interaction, as it usually leads to better performance and service.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2207307]But I cut to the chase and tell them that I want to fuck. (I have posted screenshots of it before). They say well here is a list of girls to choose from sir. How much is it? 3000 pesos only sir. No that is too much. Tell me really how much it is. 1500 pesos only sir.[/QUOTE]I don't usually see online chat managers as mamasans or papasans that actually do any real work to ensure you have good service. The only thing they do is tell me who is available and how far away the girl is now. So, I do my best to get them cut out of the deal as much as possible. I always tell them 1 or 2 HR for their cheapest massage, so the girl can say all they did was normal massage, and give just that. I feel like this lets me pay less in the long-term.
Sometimes though, the girl actually won't do anything more than massage, and I just lose out in a way by paying for a massage I didn't really want. A lot of the girls doing massage are doing massage because they are too conservative to go full-blown bar girl and do sex, so they keep a distance by doing massage and handjobs.
Twice in a blue awesome moon, though, I convince a girl that "only does handjobs" or has "no extra service" that I really like her and want a relationship. I do end up giving her gift money that she didn't ask for, but it's also still turned out to be some of the best sexual relationships I've had.
SAVING money.
Yes, they often quote higher and you can usually push them down. I always tell them, hey I'm a Filipino, just because I speak English doesn't mean I'm a foreigner who will pay foreigner prices. For others, yeah, just say it's too much.
I came across a few top tier girls in AC and was wondering if anyone has ever had any experience with this?
One girl, was the prettiest girl in the bar, a cherry girl, who doesn't barfine with sex, but is claimed to be a virgin, selling her virginity for 180 grand PHP.
Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.
We talk about keeping prices low and how to not get ripped off. What about the cream of crop, which is much cheaper in this country? In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.
Anyone have experience knowledge on this? Or know which mongerers on the forum do? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Dante702;2207437]In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.[/QUOTE]It was a long time ago but a Filipino took me there and I asked to leave after half an hour. Maybe some. Not all. Of the women were 9 or 10 in some people's eyes but not mine. No atmosphere, girls looked bored as hell, looked in the fishbowl but didn't ask prices. He took me to a back street, unmarked bar where there was only one other non-Filipino inside as far as I could tell and that had ordinary girls (girl next door?) doing erotic stuff like sitting on longneck beer bottles, and was much, much more fun. Damn I wish I knew where that bar was now.
Angeles or Pegasus? Angeles hands down. Ten average girls or one "stunner", possible starfish, for the same price?
[QUOTE=Dante702;2207437]I came across a few top tier girls in AC and was wondering if anyone has ever had any experience with this?
One girl, was the prettiest girl in the bar, a cherry girl, who doesn't barfine with sex, but is claimed to be a virgin, selling her virginity for 180 grand PHP.
Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.
We talk about keeping prices low and how to not get ripped off. What about the cream of crop, which is much cheaper in this country? In Manila, Pegasus KTV is supposed to have the most beautiful women, with prices I've heard starting at 25 k for two hours, as high as 50 k for two hours.
Anyone have experience knowledge on this? Or know which mongerers on the forum do? Thanks![/QUOTE]She must really be something to look at if she is asking 180,000 pesos for her "cherry" puss! Usually, cherry girls ask 100,000 pesos for their puss and accept bids for half or less than the asking price. Selling virginity is one of the oldest scams in Angeles City. "Virginity" could mean many different things in the bars. "Virgins" suck dick, take dick in the ass, and accept cunnilingus. Some old mongers have limp dicks but long prehensile tongues that can actually penetrate virgin hymens. Therefore, after the lizard's lick, the cherry girls may not be so virgin.
Many cherry girls were fucked in the pussy hole in their province by their poor Pinoy boyfriend. The girls see this as a way of proving their love and convincing their boyfriends that they will never forget their first sex experience with them no matter how many bigger foreigner cocks pound their jungle clams. Many cherry girls sell their "virginity" more than once in the bar. There are many tricks to tighten up a well-fucked pussy and passing it off as a "virgin" puss. On the high end, the girl goes to one of the many vaginal refurbishing clinics in town and has her hymen sutured up. On the low end, the girl gives her pussy a brine douche and alum rinse. To the buyers the puss feels brand new and worth 180,000 pesos with a little award winning Pinay dramatic acting during repeated "deflorations" of their cherry girl.
Of course, there are a few girls who somehow managed to avoid being fucked by male relatives, schoolmates, and Pinoy boyfriends. However, most are not attractive at all and have faces as bumpy as Fields Ave. Cherry price is a high price to pay to fuck a virgin swamp donkey even poor Pinoys refused to ride. A few years ago, Angel Witch bar had a beautiful petite 18-year-old Eurasian cherry girl selling her cherry for 100,000 pesos. She never went bar fine, as mongers were getting in line to buy her many lady-drinks. Those sort of deals only make sense for retired expats who want to seed and breed a young stunner over the long term. Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently, as many real virgins do not want to end up in the regular fuck bin servicing hundreds of mongers.
Hot KTV girls are more selective, as there is no bar fine and they are paid better because drinks are priced higher and the girl determines how long she sits with customers. Since KTV girls are prettier and better paid to sit and drink, they are selective of who they give bareback cum-in-pussy sex. If a new monger insists on bareback, the girl may walk because no bar fine is involved and she has regular sponsors locally among businessmen and politicians.
If you can afford to pay 25,000 to 50,000 pesos for two hours of pussy in the Philippines, then you do not need to go to Pegasus KTV. Just take the time to find a high quality college girl through networking. Many girly boys in the modeling agencies have girls they can hook you up with that are the same quality as those in Pegasus.
[QUOTE=Simmer;2207450]It was a long time ago but a Filipino took me there and I asked to leave after half an hour. Maybe some. Not all. Of the women were 9 or 10 in some people's eyes but not mine. No atmosphere, girls looked bored as hell...................................[/QUOTE]One hundred per cent correct re Pegasus. For some, high price means beautiful women. The joint (building, architecture / size) is expensive, dress, make up etc expensive. 6's at best. Bored look yes. To a flip a bored look is a sophisticated look, LOL. Its a con for guys who reckon the higher the price, the more beautiful the woman.
Twenty minutes and I was out of there too.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2207498]She must really be something to look at if she is asking 180,000 pesos for her "cherry" puss! Usually, cherry girls ask 100,000 pesos for their puss and accept bids for half or less than the asking price. Selling virginity is one of the oldest scams in Angeles City. "Virginity" could mean many different things in the bars. "Virgins" suck dick, take dick in the ass, and accept cunnilingus. Some old mongers have limp dicks but long prehensile tongues that can actually penetrate virgin hymens. Therefore, after the lizard's lick, the cherry girls may not be so virgin.
Many cherry girls were fucked in the pussy hole in their province by their poor Pinoy boyfriend. The girls see this as a way of proving their love and convincing their boyfriends that they will never forget their first sex experience with them no matter how many bigger foreigner cocks pound their jungle clams. Many cherry girls sell their "virginity" more than once in the bar. There are many tricks to tighten up a well-fucked pussy and passing it off as a "virgin" puss. On the high end, the girl goes to one of the many vaginal refurbishing clinics in town and has her hymen sutured up. On the low end, the girl gives her pussy a brine douche and alum rinse. To the buyers the puss feels brand new and worth 180,000 pesos with a little award winning Pinay dramatic acting during repeated "deflorations" of their cherry girl.
Of course, there are a few girls who somehow managed to avoid being fucked by male relatives, schoolmates, and Pinoy boyfriends. However, most are not attractive at all and have faces as bumpy as Fields Ave. Cherry price is a high price to pay to fuck a virgin swamp donkey even poor Pinoys refused to ride. A few years ago, Angel Witch bar had a beautiful petite 18-year-old Eurasian cherry girl selling her cherry for 100,000 pesos. She never went bar fine, as mongers were getting in line to buy her many lady-drinks. Those sort of deals only make sense for retired expats who want to seed and breed a young stunner over the long term. Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently, as many real virgins do not want to end up in the regular fuck bin servicing hundreds of mongers.
Hot KTV girls are more selective, as there is no bar fine and they are paid better because drinks are priced higher and the girl determines how long she sits with customers. Since KTV girls are prettier and better paid to sit and drink, they are selective of who they give bareback cum-in-pussy sex. If a new monger insists on bareback, the girl may walk because no bar fine is involved and she has regular sponsors locally among businessmen and politicians.
If you can afford to pay 25,000 to 50,000 pesos for two hours of pussy in the Philippines, then you do not need to go to Pegasus KTV. Just take the time to find a high quality college girl through networking. Many girly boys in the modeling agencies have girls they can hook you up with that are the same quality as those in Pegasus.[/QUOTE]Part of the deal is the monger gets to keep the girl permanently.
Sounds like that would be a risky thing to try and do. The whole virginity thing, yeah, seems like a bad bet.
The hot KTV girls though. Do you know what prices they really will accept? 25 k, 50 k for two hours of pussy isn't something I would pay. But, I am tired of the discriminatory aloofness of the KTV bar girls who just go home, happy with their ladies drinks. All they want is "easy money" from the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.
No one has to pay for these girls. If they are not your cup of tea then just move along. There are buyers for them. There are expensive luxury cars that I don't see the sense in paying for them. I just move along.
I don't see the sense in paying for Starbucks coffee but I accept that other people do. McDonald coffee is just as good for half the price.