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[QUOTE=Dante702;2207955]I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am. I only ever mentioned it because I was leveraging that in getting bareback, in paying what I was paying. It's disingenuous to not include that, it would create the wrong expectations. Young handsome Caucasians are the ones that have it the best here, and everywhere else.

I can afford $500 just fine. I was already spending 12 k LT per night in Manila for 2 months. I paid 7. 5 k USD for a sauna, 12 k USD for a bed, $1300 for a desk. I'm fine with high prices, as long as its for what I really want. I haven't lost, nor do I ever intend to, lose half my wealth to a divorce, a woman I eventually come to hate, and that steals my children.

I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?[/QUOTE]Then just do it and report back.

They are no different than you or me. Once you earn more you are not going to work for less.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2207878]Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?[/QUOTE]No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach. If you want to hire a private banca they will take you to Sabang.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2207955]I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am....[/QUOTE]If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.

My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.

Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2207966]You seem to be asking about two things which are mutually exclusive:

I true high end girl will not be interested in a nightly rate. She will be secured with a car, apartment and generous allowance. She would regard P50 k as walking around money.

A pretty hooker will be available for daily rates. Said rates will depend on her looks and social skills. Plenty of girls are demanding and getting USD 1000 per night without too much trouble.

......[/QUOTE]I'd suggest SA, if price is not your first consideration. There are many more quality girls there and they would be willing to be yours for a couple of months for the amounts we are talking about here. Be open and honest about what you are offering and asking for and you will find it in the Philippines.

So far my best success, both in quality and duration was a SA girl. We agreed on a fairly small allowance that in the end she did not take, all I put out was for a couple day training course that she needed to keep her license and I replaced a phone that she actually lost. (I was with her, she had it as we gone on a long trike ride and it was gone at the end of the ride. I was the one that suggested the 18 k phone, more memory, might be better for her than the 16 k one she asked for.).

It ended because her parents insisted but she was a 21 year old completely open minded little hottie.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2207878]Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?[/QUOTE]I've done that taxi trip many times. My hotel charges around $150. It's too much for my budget. Next time, I'm going to probably take the local buses. You probably will go from Dau to Cubao to Batangas. It will be 2 buses. I've done the Batangas to Angeles trip twice with local buses. It's fast with comfortable buses. I've written detailed info on it. You just have to go backwards.

I've always left around 10 AM. It takes around 3.5 hours to get to Bantagas pier without any stops. There's some traffic around Manila, but hotel taxi can drive very fast before and after. I've always made the 2 something PM boat ride to Sabang from Father and Sons Line.

[QUOTE=BusyDiver;2207974]No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach.[/QUOTE]Really? That sucks. From Puerto Galera town, you can take the 20 pesos jeepney to Sabang. The last one leaves around the evening time. But it will be a pain in the rear to carry your luggage a few hundred meters over a hill to the jeepney station. You can take a trike for around 100 pesos.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2207878]Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?[/QUOTE]I've done that couple of times. It's convenient if you take the tourist buses. Southern Cross shuttle to Manila in the afternoon. And then Skikat shuttle/banca to Sabang in the morning. But I don't like Manila, and I probably won't do that route again.

Hmm. Skikat gave you the public banca to Sabang. Does that mean Skikat doesn't do that route anymore?

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2208036]If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.

My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.

Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.[/QUOTE]I figured it was a typo on your end.

I don't introduce myself as Filipino, I don't look Filipino. Some maybe figure me as half. Sometimes I stop even trying to say I'm Filipino because people have a hard time believing.

I've never had trouble introducing myself as Filipino from the US. I've only had a hard time convincing them that I'm not half or something else.

It's my mistake to ask for the real price in KTV, because there is no real price, there's common prices people are getting and prices the girls are used to. There's also a price to finding out in KTV, and that price will likely vary based on how much you've already put in their pockets in terms of ladies drinks, how much they are already making from ladies drinks, and how much they like you from spending time with them. The price can be very volatile because of all the variables here, variables that can cost you time and money with a lot of risk. Which is why FR here is more valuable than barfine FR. In barfine FR, at least you get something. Sometimes guys complain going into bars and after buying the girl many drinks, they say they can't barfine. This is the same thing with KTV, except in KTV you can't ask upfront without a high risk of getting a high price. Then, you have to wait / blow time until 3 or 4 am, when they get off, or wait until their day off. If you happen to stay until 3-4 am, when the KTV closes, you hope she isn't too tired, you aren't too tired, to go back to your place. If you leave earlier than this time, you have to hope she cares enough and that someone with a more careless wallet didn't come after you and throw her a better offer.

I'm not making this more complicated than it is. This is that complicated, otherwise you are just throwing a lot of dice and hoping the stars align.

ISG in AC doesn't have a lot of experience with KTV's, ok, that's fine. I'll find out and report back.

Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? I'd like to order some things overseas since I plan on staying awhile, while still under the status of being a tourist, not a resident.

I figure an apartment can be rented, or a long-term condotel, for a month or two at a time, sure, that can receive packages. But that might not work for me, I just wonder if there are just boxes you can rent out, like UPS or FedEx has, maybe where they'll email or text you if you get a package. If you know of more than one company, that would be appreciated too.

Do any expats here have a hard time receiving mail in AC?

[QUOTE=Dante702;2208346]Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? I'd like to order some things overseas since I plan on staying awhile, while still under the status of being a tourist, not a resident.

I figure an apartment can be rented, or a long-term condotel, for a month or two at a time, sure, that can receive packages. But that might not work for me, I just wonder if there are just boxes you can rent out, like UPS or FedEx has, maybe where they'll email or text you if you get a package. If you know of more than one company, that would be appreciated too.

Do any expats here have a hard time receiving mail in AC?[/QUOTE]Cannot answer for AC, but in Davao, where I've lived for quite a while, it's not a problem getting package delivery. If you're expecting a package from one of the larger services such as DHL, or even an express delivery from a local service, it's easy to track the packages on line.

GE.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2208346]Anyone here have experience / knowledge on renting out a mailbox as a foreigner, in AC or in Manila to receive packages, not just envelopes? ....[/QUOTE]I asked my friend Mr Google, the man who knows everything if you ask correctly, and he came up with a Mail Box Etc at 1144 Don Chino Roces.

Google "Mailboxes Manila" and you get several places selling physical mailboxes but also some virtual offices that offer this service and some places like MBE.

You could also try asking at a LBC if they would receive parcels for you. If you trust them a local sari sari store or other business could also act for you.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2208260]I've done that taxi trip many times. My hotel charges around $150. It's too much for my budget. Next time, I'm going to probably take the local buses. You probably will go from Dau to Cubao to Batangas. It will be 2 buses. I've done the Batangas to Angeles trip twice with local buses. It's fast with comfortable buses. I've written detailed info on it. You just have to go backwards.

I've always left around 10 AM. It takes around 3.5 hours to get to Bantagas pier without any stops. There's some traffic around Manila, but hotel taxi can drive very fast before and after. I've always made the 2 something PM boat ride to Sabang from Father and Sons Line.

Really? That sucks. From Puerto Galera town, you can take the 20 pesos jeepney to Sabang. The last one leaves around the evening time. But it will be a pain in the rear to carry your luggage a few hundred meters over a hill to the jeepney station. You can take a trike for around 100 pesos.

I've done that couple of times. It's convenient if you take the tourist buses. Southern Cross shuttle to Manila in the afternoon. And then Skikat shuttle/banca to Sabang in the morning. But I don't like Manila, and I probably won't do that route again.

Hmm. Skikat gave you the public banca to Sabang. Does that mean Skikat doesn't do that route anymore?[/QUOTE]Private ferry boats to and from Sabang (departing and arriving from Berberabe) are not affected. Only the public ferry boats departing Batangas terminal are no longer stopping at Sabang, In other words there are no more PUBLIC banca boats servicing PG from Batangas.

Surely that can't be right?

Anyone got updated info?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2209066]Private ferry boats to and from Sabang (departing and arriving from Berberabe) are not affected. Only the public ferry boats departing Batangas terminal are no longer stopping at Sabang, In other words there are no more PUBLIC banca boats servicing PG from Batangas.

Surely that can't be right?

Anyone got updated info?[/QUOTE]I was just in PG / Sabang from July 5 - 13 and it is very true. No more public ferry banca boats servicing Sabang from Batangas terminal. You can still hire a private banca to / from Berberade and Sabang. Unless something has changed in the last month you will be dropped in PG by the public boat if you want to go to Sabang.

Continued from Makati thread.

After having my lunch at Tequila Reef headed up to Perimeter. New names replace old names but the game is the same.

It's rainy season and the bars are relatively quiet. For some this makes the girls more outgoing. For others I'm convinced it makes them depressed and the opposite happens, they become shy. Probably because they are newer and more intimidated by others.

Visited a couple of the bars a little further out before settling in on one, DET5 I believe. Struck up a good time with a nice girl that had a sporty edgy face if you know what I mean. We drank for a couple, of hours and it was fast approaching closing time. I didn't intend to bar fine her even though we were tipsy. She said she wants to spend more time with me. I told her I'm going to are&be to listen to the band for a bit and she was welcome to join me. She said cannot tonight. So we said our goodbyes and that was that. Or so I thought.

I rode trike to R&B and decided to eat at Korean restaurant next door. First time there. Last time too. I won't bash it here but let's say it wasn't my cup of kimchi.

I go in to are&be and get a table off to the side. About 1130 a girl slides up next to me. It's the same girl from the bar. She said she changed her mind and came to see if I was here. A test? Don't know. Don't care.

We drank some more. Ordered more food and stayed about an hour. We tried it back to my hotel and both collapsed. Fell right asleep. In the morning she started getting cuddly but not really frisky. It's hard to say it was starfish but certainly less than fantastic. But hey, this wasn't arranged, we didn't discuss expectations, we didn't discuss money. I didn't bar fine her. She came to me. Not many freebies in Angeles. We had a good time together. She made some commission on drinks and had a free dinner and a couple of hours out. She left in the morning and said she hopes to see me again.

Tomorrow is another day. I'm Living Right.

Got a text from a friend who told me Monday was her day off and she was bored. Could we do something?

It's been written many times that there is not a lot to do during the day. There's always going to one of the malls and maybe taking in a movie but it was only 9 am and neither of us really wanted to do that. After bouncing around some ideas we decided to visit Aqua Planet, the new water park out past the airport. The day was cloudy and chance of rain all day, but no big deal if we are wet anyway.

We gather our things and meet then take a grab to the water park. A little pricey at 950 each but not horrible. They included a free chicken lunch so that was a plus.

We do a couple of the simple slides before going to the 2 big ones, only to learn you must have 4 people or you cannot ride. Mind you the park was not at all crowded and after asking several people rejected our requests to ride with us we had to come up with another plan. My girl called two of her friends and asked if they wanted to come. Hell yeah. In less than an hour 2 more hotties showed up. I give them the 2000 to enter and in they come.

We have a blast. Riding every water slide many times. No waiting. Intermittent rain was not a deterrence. And me walking with 3 pretty ladies in bathing suits was not a bad way to spend the day.

We left about 4. Took a taxi back to a central spot and were ready to part ways. I said I'm hungry, would they like to join me? All 3 agreed but they wanted to shower and change. We agreed to meet at my hotel in an hour and off they went. After an hour all 3 arrived looking great. We went to Fortune and had a nice meal. As we left the girls said they wanted to drink but didn't really want to bar hop since they too were tired. We stopped at the store, bought some alcohol and went back to the room.

The relaxing environment and being tired seemed to reduce the time it took for the alcohol to take effect. A little later lots of kisses and nakedness was the norm. The girls didn't partake in each other but didn't mind sharing me. Another hour we were all wiped out. They wanted to go home which was fine with me. I crashed and had a good night sleep.

What I thought was becoming an expensive day turned into quite a bargain and a really fun day. I really am Living Right.

[QUOTE=LivingRight;2210076]Got a text from a friend who.....................I really am Living Right.[/QUOTE]Nice story here and looks like nice day.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2200468]Pomp.

Previously you have been asked to provide advice and photos to those you chastise for saying RTFF. Yet again you have not which suggests you don't have much to give and never been to the Philippines. You give little but criticise a lot. You never post photos and never say anything about your past adventures[/QUOTE]Dear Mr. Roger:

I called you out on being inhospitable to newbies and the above characterization of my posting history was, in pertinent part, your reply. If you had done your due diligence about reading my posts then you would have known that your claims were untrue. You were not conscientious about doing your research and RTFF. This shortcoming is beyond the RTFF grievance that you have with your nemesis the newbie because you see Mr. Roger, you acted in bad faith by not reviewing my posting history.

However the underlying issue has nothing to do with proving my pedigree as an ISG member and is all about your conduct towards newcomers.

Here is a bitter pill for you to swallow. We are finding that technology is creating the same kind of addictive behavior that we once only associated with alcoholism and drug use. An alcohol abuser who is in denial may claim that he can give up alcohol anytime but that he does not want to stop. Maybe your rudeness to the newbie results from your boredom, frustration, and malaise caused by such an addiction. With your 5,000 posts and still rolling, it is worth thinking about. Anyway, I regret the delay in responding. I was busy with life.