Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2054504]If you get pissed off easily and hate answering questions, please stop reading now.

I am brand new on the subject of Colombia. I have been as far south as Panama. Can somebody give a quick run down on how to get initiated. I am looking for lower prices and better quality than I can get in USA. I want to be knee deep in 9's and 10's for about 7 days in a nice hotel room. I can speak some Spanish. I do not want any risk of getting abducted, beaten, or killed. My budget is around $1500 for food, hotel, and chicas.

Which city in Colombia would you recommend for a first timer? Any other advice?[/QUOTE]I would advise you to back up one level to the base Colombia forum and read Bogota FAQ posted by Routard and Medellin Lists and Cali Lists posted by WorldTravel69. These are very well put together threads of all (most of what) you need to know for those areas. There may be similar lists in that level for other cities, but I can't remember off hand. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2056462]I have not been to Mayo in a long time. Are you sure about the pricing? I never heard of 20 k for 30 minutes. At least not from anyone I would do.

Many guys don't want to check out Mayo because it is out of the way and they hear it is a "street scene. ".

Well, true on both counts but its only like 15 mil taxi from centro. Less from Poblado. And as far as street scenes go, it's the most civilized I have experienced. A lot of dogs but usually a few hotties can be found.

Hey combo thanks for the props![/QUOTE]His pricing sounds about right, I was getting quoted 40-50 k for an hour and someone with better Spanish could probably get a better deal. There was good good selection Monday, that was also a holiday so that probably helped.

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Met a visiting monger at The Beer Store before heading to another bar. The bar is a couple blocks off the park and is supposed to have a similar business model as Gusto, bring in talent for the customers to pick up. The bar is nice, new furniture, comfortable. It was also dead. There were 2 girls sitting in the corner talking to a guy who worked there and 2 very hot (by my standards) bartenders. Drink prices were about average for the area. Don't knoe prices on the girls. Would be a good place with a few more customers.
[/QUOTE]I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.

I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.

Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2056605]I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.

I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.

Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the Beer Store, but I have been to Gusto Quite a few times. One of the older popular YouTube videos was made by me. I did not stop in there this year, but before that there were no women going there just to work as hookers. I had brought in ladies that were hookers, but not for them to work as hookers. Sometimes there are women that don't go hanging out with guys, but I haven't seen anything shady going on in there. Not all women in bars or clubs in Medellin are hookers.

Wow. A woman "dressed so slutty I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her". I wish you had gotten a picture.

Yeah, the "walk of shame" is not for the faint of heart .

Depending on the person. I however consider it a "walk of fame" and enjoy every step. LOL.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2056605]I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.

I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.

Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.[/QUOTE]

Booked kinda last min my flight back in Feb was American Airlines TPA-MIA-MDE $471. I was stupid and parked at the airport long term, turned out that was $19 a day.

When I flew down in June I did VivaColombia for $230, MIA-MDE-luggage incl. (You can get VivaColombia as low as $180 outa Miami if you can book the right days.) Parking at the Airport Hilton was $6. 50 a day.

Copa does Orlando-MDE for $260+- (via Panama City).

My next trip is on Spirit, TPA-FLL-MDE $306-luggage included-insert BOOOOO! Here, everybody hates Spirit, personally I think they are going to be way better the Air Uzbekistan was, flying in 1970's era Aeroflot cast-off YAK-40's-their motto, "It's always scary!" Parking off property nearby long term lot $5. 75 a day.

But I was looking into flying one of my sweeties up here,(one of my girlies has a American father and can get a Visa) and looking in April I actually found American Airlines for $307 MDE-MIA-TPA.

Any other airlines to consider for low fares?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2056605]I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.

I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.

Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.[/QUOTE]Rumor I had is that the owner of Gusto brings a few in. Word direct from the owner of the other bar, he's paying cab fare to get prepagos in there. I'll give the name and location in PM.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2056649](one of my girlies has a American father and can get a Visa) [/QUOTE]If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2056664]If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.[/QUOTE]I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized.

Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2056664]If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.[/QUOTE]Of course this all assumes she has proof that she is the child of an American citizen. If the father is not doing his part to claim her, it can be very difficult for the foreign-born person to prove just sanguinis (by blood) citizenship.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2056611]I don't know about the Beer Store, but I have been to Gusto Quite a few times. One of the older popular YouTube videos was made by me. I did not stop in there this year, but before that there were no women going there just to work as hookers. I had brought in ladies that were hookers, but not for them to work as hookers. Sometimes there are women that don't go hanging out with guys, but I haven't seen anything shady going on in there. Not all women in bars or clubs in Medellin are hookers.[/QUOTE]Its pretty common to see girls with their girlfriends hanging out in lleras. There are the obvious ones and there are the "classier" ones LOL! And the classier ones are looking for "classier guys. " not all are hookers, as there are rarely absolute rules. However, I'm going out on a pretty thick short and sturdy limb here. Pretty recently they were hooking. LOL it is part of the culture. If you are in Parque Lleras and there are local girls, without dudes, drinking or acting "normal" . It is quite common, and yes, they still have their price. She may have money in her wallet so she is more relaxed and just doing her own thing but just because they don't give off any signs that they are "working" I think it is more accurate to interpret it as not being too hungry or being picky or maybe holding out for her price. Girls that are truly NOT working will hang out in their own barrio with their girlfriends rather than come to Parque lleras and pay too much for everything and be in the tourist atmosphere and also be closed to the idea of sex for money.

My personal rule of thumb, you've heard it a million times so don't try to reinvent the wheel. First impressions set the mood so treat everyone friendly and like a normal person. If you can just say something like Hello, how are you? In a polite way, you open yourself to many more possibilities.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2056686]Since the US does not allow dual citizenship [/QUOTE]Uhhhh. What? I know several people that hold US & another country's passport & are considered 'Dual Citizens'.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2056904]Uhhhh. What? I know several people that hold US & another countries passport & are considered 'Dual Citizens'.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I hold US and other country's passport. I am dual citizen for other country but not for US. US does not allow or recognize dual citizenship. I am only American Citizen for US.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;2056929]I hold US and other country's passport. I am dual citizen for other country but not for US. US does not allow or recognize dual citizenship. I am only American Citizen for US.[/QUOTE]Is there a difference between citizenship and nationality? I know many people that have US and other country passports. If I am correct the only way to get a passport is to be a citizen. Otherwise the person would use a residence card along with a passport from another country to enter the USA.

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most USA Nationals, including dual nationals, must use a USA Passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger USA Nationality. ".

[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2056686]I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized. ... <snip> ... [/QUOTE]Just curious. Whatever it means to "get naturalized" I assume you did not take the test and go through the swearing in ceremony that green card holders go through when they become citizens. Right?

Thanks, Bob.