Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2053766]It is run by foreigners and in my mind, this club will be a target for law emforcemt due to the same concept at Soi 6. Regardless, enjoy it well it lasts. It will be more expensive than Soi 6 so be prepared to pay more than 1000 for a shag.[/QUOTE]The girl that I had a drink with when I was there said 1000 for a shag. Actually it is more the concept of all the other gentlemen clubs: 007, Carre Blanc, etc and not Soi 6. I don't want to include Kinnaree and the other Pratumnak places because those are much bigger seeing they are in actual houses. There is a doorman/security guy. You walk in and there is a big ass bar in front of you. There are sofas to the left, a pool table to the right, tables to the other side of the bar, big screen tvs that I think had sports on, and a place for the dj (the owner was playing music from his laptop there). There are red lights throughout. The rooms are upstairs.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2053766]Ah! This club used to be in Bangkok on Sukhumvit Soi 12. It closed down after a year. The concept was the bar with sofas and 2 pool tables. The sofas were set up in a way where curtains could be closed around them and the girls could dance and be a little naughty. There were short time rooms above the bar and the BF was 500 Baht plus an agreed upon fee for services from the girl. 2000ST I believe it was. It would close at around 9 PM if I recall so it was truly for the daytime. The concept didn't last in BKK because there was just not a consistent flow of customers. I suspect Pattaya will offer that potential. It is run by foreigners and in my mind, this club will be a target for law emforcemt due to the same concept at Soi 6. Regardless, enjoy it well it lasts. It will be more expensive than Soi 6 so be prepared to pay more than 1000 for a shag.[/QUOTE]I dropped by to check it out once. The club was really nice with a shark tank with a small shark above the main bar. Very cool.

The business model was to let gogo girls ply their trade before their shifts at Nana or Cowboy. But I think they may have had trouble getting girls because the selection was only meh when I was there.

I had a few drinks with a girl and a bit of fondling and kissing but did not take her to a room s she didn't' really do it for me and I had another girl coming to my condo in a few hours anyway.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2053681]LOS offers tremendous value. I did an analysis of my visit last November and found that I had 27 FS encounters with 22 different ladies over 11 days for a total spent of $1,175 US. (Includes fines and fees, but no LDs or food.) These were not fat and ugly BR FL girls. There were a couple of BR FL girls, but they were the better-looking ones. Quite pretty, slender, gave good service and would look hot in a bikini on the beach. This was a super hottie from Soi 6 - an amazing value at just 1,300 TB. She would draw 3000 TB plus BF for ST on WS. The others on Soi 6 were at least attractive and all slender with a few providing GFE. On Soi 6, 90% are fat and ugly, with 98% being fat OR ugly, so you have to find that upper 2%.
[/QUOTE]IMHO the pickings are better are Beach Rd than on Soi 6. Better attitudes, prices and service.

Guys, I have a delicate question. Even though I'm experienced I'm not sure what to do. First time I saw a new provider, Anna, I gave her a way too generous tip. I gave it to her ahead of time bc I was negotiating BBBJ. I had a brain fart and basically gave her what the house charged me. I don't know why, I just did. Assuming house takes 40-50% with me she prob earned 3 x what she made with a regular non-tipping monger.

Ok I made a mistake, big deal.

But, the service was FANTASTIC, top 3 provider. So I went back again for a second time and left her slightly smaller tip. But even then, my tip was prob too much. Service was fantastic again, including anal which I had not negotiated or even discussed beforehand.

I want to see her 4-5 more times before I leave. But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger. Should I give her even smaller, more reasonable tip or, since service is fantastic, just let it be?

Maybe I'm overthinking. It's not a question of money, it's just I know how many times on this board we complain about mongers who leave huge tips and then that becomes the norm for the girl.

[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;2054351]Guys, I have a delicate question. Even though I'm experienced I'm not sure what to do. First time I saw a new provider, Anna, I gave her a way too generous tip. I gave it to her ahead of time bc I was negotiating BBBJ. I had a brain fart and basically gave her what the house charged me. I don't know why, I just did. Assuming house takes 40-50% with me she prob earned 3 x what she made with a regular non-tipping monger.

Ok I made a mistake, big deal.

But, the service was FANTASTIC, top 3 provider. So I went back again for a second time and left her slightly smaller tip. But even then, my tip was prob too much. Service was fantastic again, including anal which I had not negotiated or even discussed beforehand.

I want to see her 4-5 more times before I leave. But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger. Should I give her even smaller, more reasonable tip or, since service is fantastic, just let it be?

Maybe I'm overthinking. It's not a question of money, it's just I know how many times on this board we complain about mongers who leave huge tips and then that becomes the norm for the girl.[/QUOTE]Could you please be more specific? Is she a go go girl, massage girl, freelancer or what? What was her asking price and what did you give her total including the tip?

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2054367]Could you please be more specific? Is she a go go girl, massage girl, freelancer or what? What was her asking price and what did you give her total including the tip?[/QUOTE]She works in an apartment with other girls, you walk in and choose who you want. So not a freelancer (and I have tried to get her to meet me at my place but she hasn't responded to that).

Cost is $ 28 US per hour (1 pop). So she probably makes $ 14- 17 per hour. I gave her $26 tip first time (slightly less than what she wanted).

Second time I gave her $ 24 tip bc I knew first tip was too much. She didn't say anything but I don't know if she counted it before or after.

Hopefully will see her in 3 days.

This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.

[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;2054405]This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.[/QUOTE]It's not a universal question at all. Cultures are very different around the world in regard to tipping. Tipping IS NOT expected in Thailand. No idea about Ukraine.

[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;2054405]

This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.[/QUOTE]Dude, I'm sorry but you are completely out to lunch. Comparing a Ukrain P4 P to the Thai P4 P? Posting in the wrong country forum just because the Ukraine one is slow. Post again after you come to Thailand.

[QUOTE=CherchezFemme;2054351] But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger.

It's not a question of money.[/QUOTE]Another deluded monger trying to convince himself that it's the principle, not the money. And trying to convince others that he's being cheap for the sake of the rest of us.

55555.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2054442]Dude, I'm sorry but you are completely out to lunch. Comparing a Ukrain P4 P to the Thai P4 P? Posting in the wrong country forum just because the Ukraine one is slow. Post again after you come to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Just spent 4 months in Thailand. Good times. Only did p4p twice. Then picked up a girlfriend.
But I'm looking for advice from seasoned mongers and the Thai forums are the biggest.
I'll post in Ukraine too.

[QUOTE=David2;2054453]Another deluded monger trying to convince himself that it's the principle, not the money. And trying to convince others that he's being cheap for the sake of the rest of us.

55555.[/QUOTE]David, I have just as many posts as you and more reports than you buddy. Stop being nasty and snarky, those are feminine traits. If you think I'm being cheap, just say I should continue with the same tips.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2054426]It's not a universal question at all. Cultures are very different around the world in regard to tipping. Tipping IS NOT expected in Thailand. No idea about Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Thank you. FYI, I don't think tipping is expected here either. I was paying her for BBBJ.

I appreciate someone with your post count replying.

I tried Pattaya four days last week. Really enjoyed it. Nice that there is so much in such a relatively small area (compared to say Bangkok, where travel takes more time). It seemed much weaker than Angeles City in the Philippines on young petite girls, but some very interesting 20 somethings as well as some matures. A lot of western men, but they tend to be 60+ pensioner types, uneducated, heavy beer-drinkers, smokers, overweight. So although the ratio of girls to customers isn't fantastic, some girls may be quite enthusiastic to be with somebody who is not like that.

I find Thais in general very sophisticated, so also the girls in Pattaya, relatively speaking. But strangely enough very many of them still hardly speak any English, another big draw back over the Philippines.

Another drawback is that there are also quite a few non-mongering tourists in Pattaya. So there is a risk that you bump into somebody you know (albeit probably a very small risk). In Angeles City I don't recall seeing any non-mongering tourists at all (no wonder as there is no beach there and the food sucks).

I loved Soi 6, because I like a very big selection of girls that I can be with consecutively. 3-4 per night. Out of the 6-7 girls I slept with there, I really liked 5. Only one was an unpleasant, manipulative, up-selling experience. The only problem is that they are all there out in front of the bars, so it is like one brothel and each girl can see you going to the next one, which is not so convenient if the encounters are a little bit emotionally rewarding.

I also enjoyed the go go bars. A lot of nudity, a lot of personality. Money goes quite fast.

A lot of ladyboys all over Pattaya. I have nothing against them but I would much rather not have them mixed up with all of the girls as one has to be cautious looking and flirting with the girls.

Cialis and Apcalis sold freely.

It was a very pleasant experience. I miss Pattaya and some of those special girls whom I wish I could have had more time with.

Cucumber, its good to read a fresh report about Pattaya from the perspective of an AC fan and see what he likes and dislikes about the place. I like Filipina GFE and the way they like to party and shag with real abandon. I prefer Thai culture, food, and ambiance. I think on average Thai girls are better looking, but that just means you have to look a little bit more in the PI to find what you are looking for, but the sexy, pretty ones are there too, ready and willing. As for Filipinas and their English proficiencies, that is both a big plus and a minus. I like the mystery of Thai girls. I know less of what's on their minds. Ha Ha.

P.S. I read your report on Yangon. Too bad about JJ's.

[QUOTE=Waffles;2054334]IMHO the pickings are better are Beach Rd than on Soi 6. Better attitudes, prices and service.[/QUOTE]I avoid breach road due to safety.