Hanoi

[QUOTE=Zippy;2477145]So I must have read 30 pages back in this Hanoi forum, and I have to say how disappointed I am in the state of mongerdom in Hanoi so far. I recently moved here and I figured there would at least be an abundance of happy ending massage parlors for reasonable prices (considering the extremely low cost of living and average monthly wage). But wow. You guys are routinely paying around $50-60 USD for a massage with a jerk off ending by mostly mediocre women in a developing country where most people make like $200-300 a month in wages? Just wow. You must be recent expats.

Obviously, I'll need to look around and go off the beaten path because I certainly won't be paying these prices. By the way I've been an expat for many years- Indonesia, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Russia, etc. Etc. You guys are paying more than in any of these destinations. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]I don't agree. There are plenty of options to have a massage incl. Extras without paying too much. The going price in decent massage parlours range from VND200 K-VND400 K excl. The tip for the girl. I had FS for as low as VND400-500 K if you know the places.

[QUOTE=Amanut;2477270]Vietnam-[URL]visa.com[/URL] is the firm I used to apply for a visa online. I paid for the additional option for fast track processing and to my way of thinking it was well worth the expense to have them get my visa stamped without going through the que myself. I think both the application and fast tracking totaled about $50.00 USD. They offer very professional customer service with excellent English to clarify any questions you may have by e-mail. From the time your application is processed they offer regular updates and reminders about your application along with helpful hints for your trip. If you plan to travel outside the country and return to Vietnam make sure you request the multi entry visa.

While they were arranging to have my visa stamped I bought my SIM card from the kiosk located inside the customs area. I believe it was offered by Viettel. Again they offered very reliable and inexpensive service. I think it was something in the range of $25.00 for thirty days for a 10 gig a day data package. Given that free wifi is offered almost everywhere in Vietnam, it is actually overkill. Packages for sending and receiving texts messages are sold separately and required if you wish to send texts to phone numbers. Skype and other messaging apps will work with a data only package..[/QUOTE]This information is past or for current scenario my friend.

Have you been in Vietnam now?

Sorry I am a bit confused. No pussy since 2 weeks now in USA closes my brains.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2477773]This information is past or for current scenario my friend.

Have you been in Vietnam now? [/QUOTE]It is based on my last trip to Vietnam in September and October last year.

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2477463]I don't agree. There are plenty of options to have a massage incl. Extras without paying too much. The going price in decent massage parlours range from VND200 K-VND400 K excl. The tip for the girl. I had FS for as low as VND400-500 K if you know the places.[/QUOTE]Thanks for giving me some hope! I recently moved here so I will have to research / explore more.

For the best experience in Hanoi, you should have a close local. Or you can talk to your own guide (if you're traveling) or with your male colleagues where you work. They will give you suggestions that will save you a lot of money. Vietnam has a lot of pretty girls that easily accept foreigners, as long as you have to understand them. LOL.

Since the Hanoi forum is so dead and with such a dearth of actionable information, I though I'd relate an experience I had recently. I won't say the name of the place but will give clues at the end that most will figure out with a little bit of effort. I entered the joint and saw they had a 3 tiered price system. I took the standard sauna, bath, massage deal for 500 dong. I was led to the room, which was pretty nice containing a small sauna (which looked more like a shower), a bath tube, and a massage table. After a few minutes 6 women in their 20's and 30's came into the room and I was told to choose. They were all at least OK ranging on my 10 pt. Scale from 5's to 7's. I choose a perky 7 who called herself (what sounded like) "Tree. " She spoke very little English but was pleasant and playful. I started off in the sauna for 10 minutes while she ran the bath and made up the massage table. She then coaxed me through hand gestures to jump into the bath tub, where she scrubbed me head to toe, paying a disproportionate amount of time on jerking my junk to insure I was good and hard.

After the 15 minute bath, she gestured to me to get out of the bath tube, where she thoroughly dried me off and then I laid on the table, face down. She gave an average 40 minute massage and then told me to turn over. After I did she went right for my shaft and balls to get me hard again while sucking on one of my nipples. I reached over and noticed for the first time that she wasn't wearing shorts or panties under the shirt she was wearing and subsequently enjoyed myself caressing her soft ass cheeks and slightly hairy pussy. She seemed to be wet but I can't confirm whether that was natural or (more likely) had slipped some sort of lubricant in when I wasn't looking. I started fingering her and she moved her ass into to it, seemingly encouraging it. She then asked, "Boom boom?" I countered by making the jerk off motion (since I didn't know how much FS would set me back I wanted to start off with something more conservative). She quickly added some oil to her hand and started to aggressively jerk me off for a few minutes while I continued to explore her nether regions. After finishing, she had me shower and she dried me off again. I didn't have a clue how much I should tip her as tips are all over the place on this forum but I figured another 500 to her should do the trick. She seemed fine with it.

The whole session lasted about 1 hour and 15 minutes and I was reasonably satisfied. For $40 total it was ok but I highly suspect I overpaid with my tip. For a happy ending perhaps she would have been fine with 200 an 500 for FS? The place I went to is named after the national flower of a nation that in 2013 registered 21.3 million cats and dogs living there.

I returned to the same place I described in my post of 9/13/20. Same deal (500 dong package) but this time I picked a reasonably cute girl with glasses who goes by "Ms. An." Her massage wasn't as good as the one last week, however, she did offer me FS on the flip through her translation program. She started at 1500 and quickly went down to 1000. I decided it wasn't worth it so we agreed on the standard happy ending for 500. Not sure if FS is always offered by every girl at this place but I can confirm it's on "Ms. An's" menu at least.

[QUOTE=OngTay;1559083]Maybe what is happening at the Tam Quats is they don't think foreigners can speak Vietnamese, so they just hold up two fingers or say "hai tram", which is a hell of a lot easier than trying to explain 150. Or maybe they charge by the inch so I had to pay more and MutantChicken got it for a lot cheaper LOL. Anyways I'm just reporting what happened when I went to some random places, since that's what most people on here can expect. Just to be an ass, from now on I vow that I'm going to pay 300k to each Tam Quat heheh[/QUOTE]With members like ong tay after being told what is the correct price rather appreciating the intel and keeping the price down by paying the correct price he proceeds to ridicule the messenger and vows to over pay, thus who will share intel now.

Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]Just wow, not daring to speaking for others, but personally from reading your posts I figured out you are the premier mongerer, and thus there was nothing I could tell you or add. After all you scoffed newbies for paying $80 for a HJ, then you go and showed us all by paying $60 all in your first week in Hanoi.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2496095]Just wow, not daring to speaking for others, but personally from reading your posts I figured out you are the premier mongerer, and thus there was nothing I could tell you or add. After all you scoffed newbies for paying $80 for a HJ, then you go and showed us all by paying $60 all in your first week in Hanoi.[/QUOTE]LOL That's just rich! A "premier monger"? You need to find better idols in life. I'm simply a guy who has mongered and shared information about mongering for a long time, all thankfully documented on this website and others. I've subsequently backed it up recently with actual information in several posts right here in the Hanoi forum for your reading pleasure about where to find some P4 P even though I only arrived recently.

What have you contributed? Nothing that I can see except photos where you claim to get cheap sex here in Hanoi. Why even post the photos without context about how to access such talent? Anyone can see photos of naked girls on the internet through a simple Google search so your posts add little value. I guess you just want attention.

You should work on you math skills as well as I paid exactly 1000 (at today's exchange rate USD $43, not $60 like you claimed) for a massage and HJ at a pretty nice spa. Sure, more than I'd like to pay but as I have mentioned, contributions on the Hanoi forum are quite frankly, pathetic in recent years. I hope to change and will continue to help those who want some help navigating the scene.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that posting pics with actual prices, so that readers can have context as to what they should be paying vs the looks of a certain girl they are negotiating with, isn't deemed of value a premier monger such as yourself.

Sorry I didn't actually do the, math on converting 1 m VND to USD. I understand it takes great intellect to plug in 1000000 into xe dot com, I posted without looking carefully at your valued previous posts, I tried to recall the actual figures, and I failed. My point was that you scoffed at guys paying 60 usd for a HJ, and in your greatness you paid 43 USD, I congratulate you. I am only capable of finding girls to fuck for 15 usd, so I bow to your greater knowledge.

Maybe I got confused with the 60 Usd for the 40 yr old ugly prostitute your greatness managed to find in St Petersburg?

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add, and I do realize it is in no way as good as your contribution, but just as there is a "hidden bar" in tay ho, there is a "secret bar", a "password required bar" and a "secret door bar" where girls are available for sexual interactions.

Premier monger aka Zippy.

I do believe where I post my pics ie in the photo gallery, which from my understanding is not location specific apart from being in vietnam. Just because you are in Hanoi and you think the world revolves around you doesn't mean that people's posts have a connection to you. I also don't recall any ISG rule regarding posting in the photo gallery requiring anything more than actual photos posted. Maybe you can work on your reading skills.

But here just for you a girl I found in Hanoi at today's exchange rate 21.58 usd she 23 and slim I met her 7 mth earlier.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2497278]LOL That's just rich! A "premier monger"? You need to find better idols in life. I'm simply a guy who has mongered and shared information about mongering for a long time, all thankfully documented on this website and others. I've subsequently backed it up recently with actual information in several posts right here in the Hanoi forum for your reading pleasure about where to find some P4 P even though I only arrived recently.

What have you contributed? Nothing that I can see except photos where you claim to get cheap sex here in Hanoi. Why even post the photos without context about how to access such talent? Anyone can see photos of naked girls on the internet through a simple Google search so your posts add little value. I guess you just want attention.

You should work on you math skills as well as I paid exactly 1000 (at today's exchange rate USD $43, not $60 like you claimed) for a massage and HJ at a pretty nice spa. Sure, more than I'd like to pay but as I have mentioned, contributions on the Hanoi forum are quite frankly, pathetic in recent years. I hope to change and will continue to help those who want some help navigating the scene.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the contributions now and hopefully in the future.

Truth is I have been to Hanoi once for 7 days about 5 yrs ago and was so disappointed with the whole hard to find talent scene that I never went back. Hope to change that in the future.