Sauna Reviews

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1966505]After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN <snip>

My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.[/QUOTE]Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

Stay thirsty my friend,

N.B.

Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha.

I think next time through will start there but unless it's much better I will move on. Even though the costs are higher, traveling to Macao is too far and costs to much to have sub standard quality and only save a small amount.

Natty, as a side note my first visit to Macao I stayed in the Grand Emperor and on the way up to the room these 2 hotties got in the elevator and off on the sauna floor. I had my plans from RTFF for Rio, 18, and FN, but I guess I should have followed them right into work! Too bad the hotels don't offer a little discount for guests. Don't know why they don't it's always good marketing and 5-10% would have probably been enough to push me in that direction. For 15%+ I would probably even stay in that masters hotel with darling given the selection has been good there and that hotel does not look impressive.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1966755]Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

Stay thirsty my friend,

N.B.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1966891]Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha..[/QUOTE]Just my 2 cents on this, the Rio does offer spa coupons, I believe they are either 10 or 15%, or was it a fixed 150 hkd? I really can't remember, was staying there last year and used the Sauna twice. Could get an additional coupon at reception for second visit as well.

As for quality, I guess it really depends on what you're looking for. In my experience the girls and overall service in Rio are top notch, tons of girls that are way above average in the looks department (not necessarily tagged as "models" but some amazing PRC girls), however I never got a GFE treatment in the room, whereas in FN this was almost always what I got.

BTW, NB, you know I am very very fond of Manila (esp. Makati), and yet I never miss out on at least 3-4 days in Macau when in SEA, these Saunas are worth every penny to me.

To each his own, enjoy.

D

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1951609]

Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).

[/QUOTE]Good tips. I've tried the bunk style sleeping rooms before, but with a dozen snoring men all out of sync, it made it very difficult to get any sleep. I vowed never to do that again. Did not know about individual rooms, which saunas have these? Only FN? May have to give that a try-- though I typically book a hotel as I have a few sauna girls on rotation that come over fun (one or two without any money required, just some small gifts, dinner etc, which I prefer) and then I can get a good night's sleep / decent breakfast.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1966755]Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

N.B.[/QUOTE]Last time I visited Rio (the Macau sauna, not the Brazilian city) in September of this year, prices were:

- Vietnam: 2300 MOP.

- China: 2600,

- Korea / Japan / Caucasian: 4100 ; Give me a fucking break.

I choose a Chinese girl with teacher / secretary-look glasses. Very easy to spot if she's still here.

Beautiful body, but it turned out to be one of the worst sessions of my trip.

First, she constantly toyed with the Air Conditioned in the room, and the room ended up being colder than a playoff game in Green Fucking Bay.

Then she treated me like she didn't give a shit. I don't know if it's because I'm not Asian (well, I have one Asian parent, but I was born and raised in west Europe), or I did something wrong. But if I ever go back to Macau, I'll be sure to avoid her.

In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1967164]
In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.[/QUOTE]Hi ReefLostCause, I am sorry to hear about your crappy Rio session. This kind of thing used to be quite rare. I really hope it was a one off and not becoming part of a trend.

Paying the girl was never done prior to 2016. Of course a patron could always tip a girl extra if he so desired. I always kept my wallet and cash stowed away in a locker and paid the full tab with credit card upon leaving the saunas. Paying the girl her cut, as far as I know, is currently only being done at Rio and Darling 1. But, I would not be surprised if this practice spreads to the other saunas as the saunas are coming under increasing pressure from the mainland. This method of payment allows the saunas some degree of deniability as their business must endure this new level of scrutiny and repression from abroad.

As MichaelSamuel points out, FN has done away with parading their girls in the lounge area. This is another example of a sauna trying to conform to the external political pressure while still remaining open and operating as best they can under the new conditions. I am also afraid that the lesser number of available Chinese sauna girls is another example of the new paradigm. And the closing of the Lisboa Racetrack was yet another example, the first sign of the changing times. It is sad to think that the era of Macau saunas operating freely and offering their customers high quality girls with great service may be ending. Lets hope not.

Headed to Golden on my recent trip to see if the girl I met last year was still there. It was a very memorable session and I hoped to repeat as she had one of the best bodies I've seen, and all natural-- slim, six pack abs, nice-sized boobs and perky. Plus super cute face (like anime character) and personality. Only bad thing is she's not interested in meeting up OTC.

Golden is can be difficult to find if you've not been there, but it's basically behind Fortuna Casino, and you can take the hotel shuttles to Lisboa or Holiday Inn Macao to get within 3 minutes walk. I get to Golden and try to see if I can see who's there before I pay the fee. I'm told no. Cannot. I try to describe her (didn't remember her number). But they laughed and said every girl fits that description. So I took a chance, fully expecting to eat the entry fee and walk if she's not there. I'm told new policy (as reported earlier), I have to give a portion in cash directly to the girl-- 300-400 MOP depending on the class of girl. I didn't have enough cash on me as I wanted to pay with card, but they allowed me to make a charge for a 3% fee to get cash, so I did so for a couple hundred MOP.

I do the shower thing, get harassed by the shower girls, but skipped the pools. Golden's pool / sauna area is not super enticing. Then I go get my robe, and the girl who dresses me (VN, short, somewhat cute) does something I've never seen before. She dried my nether regions with a hair dryer and tissue. LOL. Then she somehow gets a 100 MOP tip out of me. I don't know why I did that. Should have only been 20. Oh well.

I walk into the small lounge area and right in front, the first girl is none other than the one I came for, and she recognized me right away. Well, we ended up having a great session as usual (she is very talented with the bathing portion, with some sumata and cat bath and soapy action and loves to rim. I haven't encountered that at any other places or with other girls). The rooms are pretty small here, but functional. Mirrors everywhere help with the view.

As we get upstairs, they are playing bingo! Somehow I win a free 20 min massage (head, shoulders, thigh, ear cleaning). And if you add them on Wechat you can get another free one. So I got an ear cleaning, shoulder massage, and threw in a thigh massage since I liked the massage girl. Enjoyed teasing one of the servers from VN who was kind of cute, quite tall, but had a very serious face on. Eventually got her to crack a smile.

Golden is much more affordable and the quality here is pretty good. My total bill came to less than 1800 MOP, that's with the extra 100 tip and 128 massage. The atmosphere is more casual as well, almost a little too casual. You have some girls that look disinterested and bored, just sitting there, others hustling, and they aren't very polished (even when the manager was introducing the girls and said 1, 2, 3 so they could all go "thank you boss", only a couple said it and it was not in unison like other places). But it has it's charm-- a little more intimate and feels more laid back I guess.

Most likely this practice has two purposes.

1) separate the main and legitimate business of the sauna from sex activities that might be "illegal" or not appropriate to the eyes of the community. As somebody said there is trend to "clean" these cities.

2) keep old prices as they were and have the sex provider earn her money on her own. Result is higher cost of the season, far more revenues for the sauna, higher earning for the girl as she might try to pull more from the customer by upselling.

So we go from a "all-in" price (a plus of Macau sauna) to a price list of services as I am pretty sure soon the girls will come out with a laminated price list.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1968342]Most likely this practice has two purposes.

1) separate the main and legitimate business of the sauna from sex activities that might be "illegal" or not appropriate to the eyes of the community. As somebody said there is trend to "clean" these cities.

2) keep old prices as they were and have the sex provider earn her money on her own. Result is higher cost of the season, far more revenues for the sauna, higher earning for the girl as she might try to pull more from the customer by upselling.

So we go from a "all-in" price (a plus of Macau sauna) to a price list of services as I am pretty sure soon the girls will come out with a laminated price list.[/QUOTE]#1 is a possibility. The girls didn't know why it was implemented, they said maybe it's so they get paid faster. #2, I don't see as of yet, since the prices remain the same, just a portion is to be paid in cash directly.

I was planning to try Golden for the first time but elected 18 for the fourth or fifth. Rather than fly United and arrive in Hong Kong and go through the ferry drama rushed, I chose American and landed around 0900. Took the ferry and arrived in Macau around noon. Some bloke on the ferry told me of a new sauna near 18 so I tried to find it but could not. 18 it was.

They have finally finished the remodel. And it was nice. Had the Korean bath (on the horseshoe chair) and let her clean me up. Then in the lounge it was dead at that time of day of course. But, I started the round of services including many thigh massages. The ladies were more than happy to stroke my cock in plain view of all the other ladies. The foot massage lady jumped in on one and made me blow. All over the place since it was probably my fifth thigh massage. They kept doing thigh massage for $150 local. Eventually, I paid them direct $200 USD for a ton of services– worth every penny. Eventually I told them to charge the house and ended up with a $2,400 MOP bill. Three times I blew, at least a dozen thigh massages, and many other services. I took a few videos from my cell phone and she was oblivious!

Now I can relive the view but not the pleasure!

Moved on to Taipei. Met some hot chicks at the club scene around 101. One had me ginding on her ass with my rock-hard cock. We danced so many times and I grinded her all night long until her cock blocking friends towed her away. Great ass, legs, and big tits. She friended me on FB then late defriended be due to boyfriend. Should have closed it but my cock was still happy from 18.

Moved on to Singapore and found a hotty on Tinder. Good way to go. She came to my hotel and we fucked. Condom of course which sucks. Her tits were large see cups and a beautiful shape. Then hung out with a local Singaporean only to find out she was knocked up and kept it from me. Anyway, we fucked doggie and I grudged a bit. I pounded her wall hard.

Then back to boring USA Already planning next trip in February. Not sure where but pussy will always be in scope.

Good Day. I am now in HK for the first time in quite a while, and am likely to take a trip to Macau on Saturday. Based on my spending patterns when I am in Europe, I am looking to spend during my visit around HKD7000 but would be looking for a couple of experiences, perhaps even 3 for the spend. Of late I have stopped hiring escorts, and have moved on to European saunas (FKK) so was thinking that the Macau equivalent (not sure if more Darling or Rio approach is better match) would be more to my liking. Given my budget, time of year etc, what would be the view on the community on the top 3 choices for a visit probably starting around 5 pm and ending near midnight. While this is my first post here, I am a contributor to the forum (Barcelona / Vienna so far), and will generate feedback (usually in a lot of detail), so appreciate all contributions to give maximize my pleasure and experience.

Hope this is in time to help you. For that budget here is what I suggest.

Take taxi to Sofitel (it's easier to tell cab drivers this than masters hotel). Start at darling 1. That's less than 2 k all in and your first 90 minutes. Then for a break you could walk to Rio, 30 minutes. The food is ok there but if you see something along the way you can eat. Natty has recommended the noodle shop at Grand Lisboa and I thought it was very good as well and doesn't take long. Then Rio for rest of the night. Think a PRC model and viet girl and your about at 5 k maybe a bit over and then your out at midnight.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1974266]Good Day. I am now in HK for the first time in quite a while, and am likely to take a trip to Macau on Saturday. Based on my spending patterns when I am in Europe, I am looking to spend during my visit around HKD7000 but would be looking for a couple of experiences, perhaps even 3 for the spend. Of late I have stopped hiring escorts, and have moved on to European saunas (FKK) so was thinking that the Macau equivalent (not sure if more Darling or Rio approach is better match) would be more to my liking. Given my budget, time of year etc, what would be the view on the community on the top 3 choices for a visit probably starting around 5 pm and ending near midnight. While this is my first post here, I am a contributor to the forum (Barcelona / Vienna so far), and will generate feedback (usually in a lot of detail), so appreciate all contributions to give maximize my pleasure and experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1974996]Hope this is in time to help you. For that budget here is what I suggest.

Take taxi to Sofitel (it's easier to tell cab drivers this than masters hotel). Start at darling 1. That's less than 2 k all in and your first 90 minutes. Then for a break you could walk to Rio, 30 minutes. The food is ok there but if you see something along the way you can eat. Natty has recommended the noodle shop at Grand Lisboa and I thought it was very good as well and doesn't take long. Then Rio for rest of the night. Think a PRC model and viet girl and your about at 5 k maybe a bit over and then your out at midnight.[/QUOTE]Yes that'a a good plan.

If you want 3 sessions instead of 2, after Darling, you can go to Golden, and get a nice Viet for around 2000. Then to FN, same for slightly higher price.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1975084]Yes that'a a good plan.

If you want 3 sessions instead of 2, after Darling, you can go to Golden, and get a nice Viet for around 2000. Then to FN, same for slightly higher price.[/QUOTE]Thank you both for your input. Having read some reports, I think the big decision will be after Darling whether it is Rio or FN. They both are highly rated, though FN is always quoted as being better value for money. In terms of services, in an FKK in Europe, you can basically have a full GFE / PSE experience. This means (of course with proper payment) DFK, DATY, CIM, and Greek (if that's your interest). It sounds like Macau might be more of a massage / OWO / Safe Sex sort of experience with the girl much less of a receiver. (or at least this is the impression from the reports). I'll find out for myself of course, but in the room is the GFE / PSE approach on the menu.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1975303]Thank you both for your input. Having read some reports, I think the big decision will be after Darling whether it is Rio or FN. They both are highly rated, though FN is always quoted as being better value for money. In terms of services, in an FKK in Europe, you can basically have a full GFE / PSE experience. This means (of course with proper payment) DFK, DATY, CIM, and Greek (if that's your interest). It sounds like Macau might be more of a massage / OWO / Safe Sex sort of experience with the girl much less of a receiver. (or at least this is the impression from the reports). I'll find out for myself of course, but in the room is the GFE / PSE approach on the menu.[/QUOTE]Hey RH,

I also started my mongering expedition in FKKs in Germany and moved to SEA 5 years back.

Macau is heaven to me and I am sure you will enjoy it thoroughly.

The main difference to notice is that unlike an FKK you are not in contact with the service providers at all, until you choose which to take for private time. This eliminates any possibility of building chemistry prior to making the deed, so generally receiving GFE is more rear, however Macau does prevail when it comes to the additional services in Saunas (massages, shower girls, food etc.).

I remember reading there is one sauna mentioned to have the girls roam around and talk to customers (more similar to FKK setup) was it 18 or East? I never bothered as I really loved D1, Rio and FN.

As for the 2 choices you've mentioned, Rio is much more lavish and grand, it's more beautiful and is really a pampering experience. The girls are probably the most beautiful in my book, and are very professional, but I never had one that spoke English, and if they did "no kiss" were the most common words used. Also, no phone reception in the rooms, so no way to use any translation apps.

In FN, there are stunners and also some GND type, and using some Google translate and some good senses of choosing the right girl, I managed to find 3 Viets and 2 Chinese which were full GFE, loving it, one of which squirting while cuming and insisting on me taking her phone number so we can meet when she's off work.

In a nutshell, if you want the "Macau sauna experience", I find Rio to be the best representation of that. If GFE is a big factor for you, FN just has higher chances in my experience.