FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1127952]Hellen: German, blonde, beautiful. Bad service though. I had a bad vibe but she was so good looking so I was weak. She was still like wood. I will never repeat and since I've had bad session with too many german girls now in the future I will try to avoid.[/QUOTE]Is Hellen maybe Helena? Tall, dark hair, lot of piercing, definitely good looking?

If it' her I'm kind of surprised, she is one of my favorites right now.

I remember myself writing exactly the same stuff about german girls on a report, maybe one year ago. Next time I visited Artemis I went with 3 german girls in a row and was totally happy about that. Ahaha.

All the best!

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers; 1128123]My symptoms are not heavy but still it is something to be taken care of:

- a bit of while liquid coming out.

- a bit of burning when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url], it hurts a bit when in erection, the ejaculation hurts a bit more.

- sometime it itches

The Hospital is going to call me to visit me beetween Monday and Wednesday.

STDs are a well known risk if you decide to monger. If I think about it the girl that gave me this, she surely had a lot of other encounters and the other men had other girls as well and so on.

In my case I hadn't mongered for a year and the first time after 1 year I got one STD right away! Lucky. [/QUOTE]Buck. Sorry you're going through all this, brave of you to post all, and as Charley123 mentioned last week. It's quite useful. Please, if you feel up to it, and when you know:

Can you let us know what the actual STD diagnosis is, and

Given the normal incubation period etc. Do you really think it was via Artemis or could it have been another prior encounter? (If you think you even know who. You can PM me.).

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kimino;1128360]I remember myself writing exactly the same stuff about german girls on a report, maybe one year ago. Next time I visited Artemis I went with 3 german girls in a row and was totally happy about that.[/QUOTE]On this discussion about nationalities and talent, this has been discussed before. There are great women, and not so great, everywhere, it's difficult to judge from the population in bordellos, and your own experiences may of course vary. I would only say that based on a fair bit of (my) experience, German girls, in general, seriously rock.

Hellen: she is blonde (might be fake) but not piercing at all so it is another one. She said she was from Hamburg.

German girls: I had my luck with German girls (best experiences in apartments though, ex Koeln) but then I experienced various bad sessions in a row at Artemis. I'm sure I will try german girls again one day. The only ones that I avoid by default are Romanian girls but it is a personal issue.

Overall my best experiences are with Russian and ex USSR countries girls (such us Lithuania)

STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.

I will have my visit on Wednesday morning and they will probably give me some antibiotics but I don't know if they will be able to tell me what exactly is at once without further tests.

Mongering can be "hard" in more than one sense.

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1128457]STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.[/QUOTE]A Spanish girl. Well, at least I, am not surprised. By now, who knows how many persons hav gotten infected, girls and mongers. No one knows cause not many guys report about things like this. Buck Rogers, I hope you will recover quickly.

This I think ruin my plans, and I have flight tickets and all, bad news really bad news. I've been waiting six months.

Even thou I never go with southern european looking girls, avoiding the germs must be reallly tricky by now.

Maybe I will fly to Berlin anyway, doing normal tourist things. Yes, sounds like a lot of fun.

Norjan

You're not seriously considering to cancel your visit to Artemis? What do you think, that there's some kind of epidemic spreading rapidly in the club? Give yourself a break, calm down, go to Artemis and have a good time.

HB

This Friday, I managed to escape from my travel company for a short visit at Artemis.

I arrived a bit after 14. 00 and it was a nice, calm atmosphere. However, the "chase" seemed to increase after that and I realised I have to do a selection to not miss my "window" of time.

After some hesitations between options, I selected Marketa (CZ) , which turned out to be a good one. She was really nice and a real good encounter, as I now also read here in this thread. I just concur what others already written!

Among the options, there was a new Hungarian girl, next door type, with braces. Really tempting. Anyone having experiences? She told me she's been at Artemis for 5 days.

When reading this thread, I became a bit scared of the STD risk of course, but as HB wrote, there is no reason for panic.

If someone feels a bit nervous about the STD risk, just keep the entire session protected, after all, that is way better than running around ogling Brandenburger Tor! .

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1128457]STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.[/QUOTE]Ciao Buck Rogers, I'm sorry for the situation.

I found this page with incubation times of STD.

[url]http://std.about.com/od/overviewofstds/a/incubationper.htm[/url]

All the best!

[QUOTE=Blue Swede;1128516]After some hesitations between options, I selected Marketa (CZ) , which turned out to be a good one. She was really nice and a real good encounter, as I now also read here in this thread. I just concur what others already written![/QUOTE]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.

And you know what I did right? That's right my friends! I cornholed her deep up in that Czech butthole of hers and was saying out loud so all in the kino could hear how I was fucking her in her asshole. Was surprised that such a petite little girl like that was taking it so well up the yin yang.

That asshole was TIGHT and had to work my way up in there. Almost thought I wasn't going to make it. If that was Marketa (that's the name I remember anyway) , then she was a damn good butt fuck! Her friend didn't do anal but spit all over my dick (I LOVE that) then took one hell of a hard and rough slam fuck (received many knowing smiles from them both later throughout the evening).

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1128500]You're not seriously considering to cancel your visit to Artemis? What do you think, that there's some kind of epidemic spreading rapidly in the club? Give yourself a break, calm down, go to Artemis and have a good time.

HB[/QUOTE]I am seriously considering to cancel. What says there is not an epidemic? You think that only one single girl at Artemis is a carrier and that she only pass it on to one single guy? That's very unlikely.

If one girl gives a guy an STD, it is very unlikely that she has not given it to other guys. How many guys do you think she have been with since February 18? One hundered? That's not unlikely.

And how many girls do you think the avarage monger go with on one night at Artemis? 3-4? That's not unlikely either.

You do the math.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1128840]You do the math.

Norjan[/QUOTE]If you trust your own maths based upon only 2 reports on this board and come to the conclusion there is an epedimy then indeed you must cancel your trip.

How did you do your maths and what definition of an epedimy did you use and what was your input-data?

As stated many times already. There is always a limited risk getting infected. The 2 recent reports her (and none on German or Dutch boards) only prove this limited risk and show no prove for an epedimy.

If you do not accept this limited risk (which is difficult to quantify) then indeed better you do not visit FKK's. If you are good at maths then also perform a calaculation of the risk getting involved in a Car or flight accident and compare this risk with the infection risk in a FKK. Or even better perform a FMEA analysis where you do not take into account only the [b]risk[/b] But also the [b]effect[/b]. Goodluck with the calculations!

B30

[QUOTE=Norjan;1128840]do the math.[/QUOTE]Better stay home Norjan. Leave the higher mathematics to those with the numbers for head. What with the gypsies and the clap Berlin is a cesspool. Some things even spray on bandaids can not help.

An STD outbreak (real or imagined) at the local watering hole is after all what separates the mongers from the weekend warriors. As Big30 note below, life, and especially FKK life, involves this risk. These "epidemic" (please note the quotes) fears are basically groundless. At least from what I have read on the boards recently. Had I the funds to back it up I would be there tonight to prove it to you.

AM

[QUOTE=The Cane;1128539]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's her! I was offered a combo with them both, but decided to take one of them, took a while to decide which.

I was however pleased with the choice.

Blue

[QUOTE=Big30; 1128844]If you trust your own maths based upon only 2 reports on this board and come to the conclusion there is an epedimy then indeed you must cancel your trip.

How did you do your maths and what definition of an epedimy did you use and what was your input-data?

As stated many times already. There is always a limited risk getting infected. The 2 recent reports her (and none on German or Dutch boards) only prove this limited risk and show no prove for an epedimy.

If you do not accept this limited risk (which is difficult to quantify) then indeed better you do not visit FKK's. If you are good at maths then also perform a calaculation of the risk getting involved in a Car or flight accident and compare this risk with the infection risk in a FKK. Or even better perform a FMEA analysis where you do not take into account only the [b]risk[/b] But also the [b]effect[/b]. Goodluck with the calculations!

B30[/QUOTE]I haven't said there is an epidemy, HB used that word below and I simply responded "What says there is not an epidemy?"

I haven't done the math cause I don't have to. Any person with normal intelligence understand that STD:s do spread among prostitutes and mongers in a brothel. It doesn't take a degree in bacteriology. Comparing this with car accidents and flight crashes is very childish.

Am I wrong when I say that the girl that infected BR probably have been with a lot other men since February 18?

Am I wrong when I say that the avarage monger probably have sex with 3-4 girls when visiting the club?

Once again, I don't need to calculate.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1128845]Better stay home Norjan. Leave the higher mathematics to those with the numbers for head. What with the gypsies and the clap Berlin is a cesspool. Some things even spray on bandaids can not help.

An STD outbreak (real or imagined) at the local watering hole is after all what separates the mongers from the weekend warriors. As Big30 note below, life, and especially FKK life, involves this risk. These "epidemic" (please note the quotes) fears are basically groundless. At least from what I have read on the boards recently. Had I the funds to back it up I would be there tonight to prove it to you.

AM[/QUOTE]Well lets wait and see. If BR is diagnosed with gonorrhoea, chlamydia or whatever and the carrier turns out to be, lets say, the spanish one (not that we will ever find out but just let us assume). Would you put your dick in her mouth? If so, I'd be happy to sponsor you with, lets say 20 Euros. Maybe BR will fill in the rest?

Norjan