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Gentlemen, due to business (and personal reasons) I will be driving from Amsterdam to Berlin. On my way to Artemis, can anyone suggest one two decent smaller FKK options along autobahn number 2? I have been to (and reported on) most of the big FKKs. I don't have enough knowledge on the smaller ones and hoping someone here can help. It might be nice to break up a 5-6 hour drive. Thank you.
Sauncalub Harem [url]http://www.saunaclubharem.de/[/url] Is a nice option about 25min off Autobahn A2, close to Bielefeld.
There's FKK Villa in Hannover [url]http://www.fkk-villa.de/index.html[/url] Which I would not recommend.
FKK Zeus [url]http://www.fkk-zeus.de[/url] In Osanabrück, never been there.
HB
Hello All,
I am planning a few days visit to Frankfurt Am Main in early February.
When I check the messe calendar I have unfortunately seen that Feb. Is very busy with Exhibitons;
1) Ambiente: World's biggest consumer goods fair. (That means lots of male visitors.) 07-11. 02. 2014.
I think starting from 6th or 5th of the month, the hotels will be very busy and overcharged and lots of visitors in Frankurt who came earlier.
2) Art &Antique Fair 13-16. 02. 2014.
I couldn't find detailed information about it. It's in the calendar but no information about it in the messe website. Strange. I guess if it even exists there will be male-female equal visitors so no need to be so much worried about it. So for the days 12 and 13 it must be good to be in Frankurt.
What do you think about real effect of it for FKK clubs?
Is it necessary to avoid also for the one day before or one day after of exhibition dates?
I must admit that I am not so happy with FKK clubs packed with spoiled businessmen.
Your comments will be appreciated.
I don't want to wait till March or late February.
I will be in FRA during those time. From my research, Ambiente is a big messe. So, you can expect a sausage fest for FRA clubs (may not be as bad for World and Shark comparing to Palace, Oase, and Mainhattan). The hotel price during Ambiente are ridiculous too. So I am avoiding FRA and going to NRW instead.
Art&Antique doesn't seem to have effect on the hotel rate. So I assume it will be business as usual for FRA clubs. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Mr Ho; 1521380]Are there any loyalty package ticket in any other major fkk other than Artemis?
Eg: At Artemis when you buy 12 x karten, you pay 800 euro and you get 12 times entry. You get 2 times entry for free.
Do other fkk in Germany like Oase, Palace, Goldentime etc have such a package entry deal offer?[/QUOTE]FKK Paradise in Stuttgart as a program where for 10 entry cards you pay 340 euros or for 10 entry cards you pay 650 euros. The normal entry price is 79 euro.
FKK World has an offer of 10 entries for the price of 475 euros or 5 entries for 260 euros. Normal entry price is 65 euros.
FKK Mainhattan has an offer where for 10 entries is 479 euros and for 5 entries it is 249 euros. Normal entry cost is 60 euros per visit.
FKK Palace has a deal where for 10 entries is 600 euros. Normal entry price is 75 euros per visit.
Oase used to have deal where for your paid for 5 entries and received 6 entry cards. That was when entry was 65 euros. I have not seen an Oase bulk entry offer since the entry price went up to 70 euro.
Sharks offers a similar deal: 950 EUR for a VIP Card Gold = 20 entries.
HB
Is there anyone here has been in both Brasil Terma and FKK?
I am trying to make decision I have a day to relax in Frankfurt on a Fri, I think there is a messe, Feb 23rd, should I visit Oase, or travel to Samaya or Bernds, as I am more about service than optiflick.
[QUOTE=GentlemanAlway;1523395]I am trying to make decision I have a day to relax in Frankfurt on a Fri, I think there is a messe, Feb 23rd, should I visit Oase, or travel to Samaya or Bernds, as I am more about service than optiflick.[/QUOTE]Land und Genuss is not a big Messe.
They are very similar in that you have to pay an entrance fee to get in, they have women everywhere, and they cater to us. However, they are different in that in a Brazil Terma you don't get fed or given drinks at all. The girls wear bikinis or dresses showing off their best assets in Termas. In Brazil, it is mostly about the backside. Brazilians are into the curvy, voluptuous, luscious looking women. The girls are way more into sex in Brazil that they are in the FKK's, women there are really into pleasing their man.
FKK's are very clinical. The women tend to have more of the model look to them. Mostly very thin, great legs, nice bodies; however not so much into taking care of the customer like in Brazil. You have to really take time to screen who you take to the zimmer. Girls in FKK's want to charge extra for everything they do: Kissing ($) , CIM ($$) , anal ($$$) , etc. In the Termas, it is all inclusive, including multiple shots on goal in a one hour session, anal, CIM, whatever you can get in the time you are with the provider. Of course, it depends on your skills and chemistry with the girls, your miles may vary.
As far as entrance fees, the Termas are less than half the entry price of an FKK, but the FKK's do allow you to eat and drink (Except for Oase) as much as you please where at the Termas you pay as you go for food and drink. Termas (I'm talking the major ones) and FKK prices are pretty much the same as far as service for the hour: Roughly 100 Euros for the hour in both; however, there are no good deals for half an hour at the Termas as in the FKK's. (50 Euro service is virtually no different in price than a one hour session in Brazil; they want you to go for the hour and so do the girls).
Facilities in Brazil tend to be run down in comparison to the facilities of an FKK. Termas don't have open area pools, jacuzzis, or outdoor areas.
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1523390]Is there anyone here has been in both Brasil Terma and FKK?[/QUOTE]
Very concise info Voyajer. Exactly the type of info I was looking for on the Termas. I will probably take a trip down there sometime this year to see what it is all about. I like girls that have some curves to them, I like good sized butts but not too big. I like butts that are tight not big and loose, I like the butts in the pictures below. I like the third picture in terms of proportions, but wouldn't mind more curves like the second one. I like them in that sort of shape and I like wide hips.
Also, will I see girls of western looks there? I go to FKK to look for girls of western looks such as German and Polish girls(I like girls that look like Kate Upton below, that's why I look for German girls in hopes of finding girls that look like her) that has the blue / green / grey eyes. Kate Upton is perfect body type to me even though some may think she maybe a bit thick, I imagine ideal German girls to look like Upton. I have actually been with a German girl that was up to Upton's level in terms of looks at LR. Never saw her again anywhere.
Will I see girls like that? I see Brazilian models like Ariana Lima(first picture) that will blow away any western girls in FKK in terms of looks, but will I run into girls with those looks in a terma? What percentage have western looks?
I wish the threads on Termas were organized like FKK threads.
Never saw a FKK girl of German descent with a body like Upton. They were mostly short and chunky. Or tall and chunky. Upton, while not anorexic skinny, is tall and proporitoned.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1523782]Very concise info Voyajer. Exactly the type of info I was looking for on the Termas. I will probably take a trip down there sometime this year to see what it is all about. I like girls that have some curves to them, I like good sized butts but not too big. I like butts that are tight not big and loose, I like the butts in the pictures below. I like the third picture in terms of proportions, but wouldn't mind more curves like the second one. I like them in that sort of shape and I like wide hips.
Also, will I see girls of western looks there? I go to FKK to look for girls of western looks such as German and Polish girls (I like girls that look like Kate Upton below, that's why I look for German girls in hopes of finding girls that look like her) that has the blue / green / grey eyes. Kate Upton is perfect body type to me even though some may think she maybe a bit thick, I imagine ideal German girls to look like Upton. I have actually been with a German girl that was up to Upton's level in terms of looks at LR. Never saw her again anywhere.
Will I see girls like that? I see Brazilian models like Ariana Lima (first picture) that will blow away any western girls in FKK in terms of looks, but will I run into girls with those looks in a terma? What percentage have western looks?
I wish the threads on Termas were organized like FKK threads.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1; 1523705]They are very similar in that you have to pay an entrance fee to get in, they have women everywhere, and they cater to us. However, they are different in that in a Brazil Terma you don't get fed or given drinks at all. The girls wear bikinis or dresses showing off their best assets in Termas. In Brazil, it is mostly about the backside. Brazilians are into the curvy, voluptuous, luscious looking women. The girls are way more into sex in Brazil that they are in the FKK's, women there are really into pleasing their man.
Facilities in Brazil tend to be run down in comparison to the facilities of an FKK. Termas don't have open area pools, jacuzzis, or outdoor areas.[/QUOTE]Voyajer first of all thanks for the analysis. Really useful.
I am trying to decide to go to Rio or a little Europe tour mostly in Germany. I have visited Berlin and also Artemis last year. Never been in South America.
Rio is at least 13 hours flight from here and the cheapest fare is 900 USD and Frankfurt is just 3 hours and the fare is around 250 USD.
Rio beats Fra in means of normal touristic standards. Beach, Sun, lots of people in the street.
And after last political crysis Euro go up here in Turkey. USD goes up a little slower.
Price per session looks better for Termas and I am sure hotel cost will be lower but these savings of course don't compensate 4 times expensive ticket cost.
Anyway it's very far away from here. Not easy to decide.
The point I mostly think is the quality of girls available in Termas. In Artemis I can't say that I have seen a 6 there. Mostly 8, 9 and 10 but I don't know the situation in Termas. Is there anyone here to make a comparison?
Another plus for Rio is when you get bored of P4P you can go and enjoy a normal bar and take your chance with Freebies. I am sure it's a lot of fun.
There is simply nothing in Fra in means of Freebie. But I must add safety points of Fra is very high compared to Rio that has very low points.
One last thing that i must add is my taste is mostly for EE look girls which are blonde and tall.I am also very much into Romanian girls.South American girls i dont know..All of them are not Adriana Lima.
Regards.
There is always a catch. Most of the girls have huge butts, I mean the meaty, muscular yet soft, rapper video styled rumps. Don't get me wrong, if you look hard enough you will certainly find some girls that look like the picture you posted but they are in the minority in Rio de Janeiro. Brazil is a big mixture of all kinds of races, but the majority are of providers are of a darker than a more European type complexion. You have mulatas (Indian and white) , morenas (Black and white) and mixtures all in between with some ladies from a very light complexion to some dark. Of course you have the black, white, and Asian influences all mixed in a marvelous stew of humanity down there. I am talking about an exotic mixture of women of all shapes and sizes that you need to get used to since you are used to the European look which is very different.
One thing I can tell you, the girls, at least in my experience, women there LOVE sex. Don't get too attached or fall in love with anyone, take it for what it is worth and have a great time. Take some time and read Bubba's guide, it has lots of very useful information as far as the majority of the major Rio de Janeiro termas you can find. It hasn't been updated in a while, but the information is on target as far as the major and minor Termas scene in the city.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1523782]Very concise info Voyajer. Exactly the type of info I was looking for on the Termas. I will probably take a trip down there sometime this year to see what it is all about. I like girls that have some curves to them, I like good sized butts but not too big. I like butts that are tight not big and loose, I like the butts in the pictures below. I like the third picture in terms of proportions, but wouldn't mind more curves like the second one. I like them in that sort of shape and I like wide hips.
Also, will I see girls of western looks there? I go to FKK to look for girls of western looks such as German and Polish girls (I like girls that look like Kate Upton below, that's why I look for German girls in hopes of finding girls that look like her) that has the blue / green / grey eyes. Kate Upton is perfect body type to me even though some may think she maybe a bit thick, I imagine ideal German girls to look like Upton. I have actually been with a German girl that was up to Upton's level in terms of looks at LR. Never saw her again anywhere.
Will I see girls like that? I see Brazilian models like Ariana Lima (first picture) that will blow away any western girls in FKK in terms of looks, but will I run into girls with those looks in a terma? What percentage have western looks?
I wish the threads on Termas were organized like FKK threads.[/QUOTE]
With all due respect, I really believe that posts like Voyajer1's only serve to spread "misinformation" about Brazil. I am a Rio vet, and I have a bit of a different take on this based upon my own personal experience. Before I started going to Brazil, I believed basically what Voyajer1 wrote because that's all I had to go on. It's quite common too for somebody to say all of that. But then I started going and experiencing and doing research and discovering that Brazil is far more diverse than I (or you) ever imagined.
Brazil is a country of over two hundred million people. According to the CIA World Fact Book, over fifty percent of those people are white (54 per cent to be exact)! And then another 39 per cent are "mulatto" (black and white mix). The demographics round out with smaller percentages of other types of people (Amerindians, Asians, unspecified, etc.). So, as was said it all adds up to a lot of diversity. But, I'm here to say that the make-up of the Brazilian population includes far, far, far more white, European-descended people than a post like Voyajer1's leads people to believe. And further, you can see that reflected in the girls who are working as GDPs ("garotas de programa" or tutes)!
PL, I posted some photos of girls I have personally had the pleasure of in Brazil. Were my efforts all for naught? Did you not see? These are not mere aberrations or exceptions to the rules. Did you not believe? You see my friend, I'm just like you in that I like that "western look". I like the "brancas" (western-looking white gals) and the "morenas" (caramel-complected, brown-skinned girls). And if Brazil wasn't loaded with both types, then it would not have become my favorite place in the world to monger! It's loaded with western European-looking girls! I have never ever had a single problem ever finding the kind of girls in Brazil that you and I both like, and that Voyajer1's post would leave you to believe are so rare. They aren't. When it comes to this, I'm here to tell you that there is no "catch". I've re-posted the pics that I put up before as "evidence". I have many, many, many more of "western looking" girls just like these (see the "Photos" thread in the Brazil section from the summer of 2011 if I recall correctly).
And now, regarding ass size. Again, I think to talk in absolutes the way that Voyajer1 did ("most of the girls have huge butts") is simply misleading! Now, I call Brazil the land of the "bunda" (butt) because it's a place where having a nice plump, round, derriere is highly-valued. It's the land of the "popozuda" or "big butt girl". That's one of the things that draws me to Brazil. Again and again. That and the fact that I routinely fuck 70 per cent of my Brazilian tutes in the ass on any given trip LOL! Oh yeah, they love anal too hahaha! Imagine being able to cornhole all of those pretty "western-looking girls" in the ass like that. But all that said, remember that Brazil is a diverse place! Anything and everything is there that you might want, including ass-types in great abundance LOL!
I've been to many, many termas and you see all kinds of shapes and sizes of asses on the tutes. Even in Quatro por Quatro (4X4) which is known for having a lot of phat bottom girls (and I love it too!). Now, if you want to go to some places that have a particularly high percentage of white girls on duty "soliciting", then go to Centaurus in Ipanema (my first terma experience ever) and out to Solarium. But don't forget that the brancas can be found all over the place all over town in Rio at any of the major termas (and at the smaller, off the beaten path venues too). I'll close with this. Look man. If it's on the ass matrix? Then they got it in Brazil! In great abundance LOL! Believe that.