Bangkok Reports

The most recent Stickman Weekly article reports that the new owners of NEP are transforming the plaza into ladyboys only. There will be no female go-go dancers at all! Apparently the existing ladyboy establishments are thriving while the bars with girls are having great difficulty finding good looking girls and are languishing. Stickman also reports that about half the guys booking short time hotel rooms are with ladyboys. Supposedly the owners are in discussions with owners of ladyboy bars in other locations to relocate their bar to NEP; and the go-go girls working at NEP will move to Soi Cowboy (which will have only female go-go dancers) , Patpong and even Pattaya.

Has anyone else heard anything about this?

[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1405083]Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.

Yangoon.

Hotels are over priced and for what you get terribly standards, Food wise I don't like the taste is better than laos or Cambodia but because it has a indian influence its not to my likeing. Transport wise its not that great but due to the smaller size its acceptable.

Day time activities, are limited, tried the massage and its not good and not worth the money conpared to vn.

Not many options for ST, but LT is the winner compared to vn, and beats most places except AC. Go to JJ entertainment and you can get 18-20yr old freelancers fro 50k or about 56usd. These girls are very innocent and cute, ud have to be a real ugly troll not to have these girls fight to get your attention. So go yangoon if LT is your thing.

Bangkok.

The usual places I used to stay was around sukumvit, but now as the place is being invaded by girls backpacking and couples and groups on vacations I have now decided to avoid it as the hotel have gone up in price due to all the increased demand.

I checked out nana, and whilst I agree there are alot of cuties in rainbow 4, I wasnt preparted to pay 500BF. 2000st and have the st last 30-45mins due to of the japs and other asians, tho I saw plenty of white guys take from rb4 as well.

The other bars also contained come cuties but nothing that would say exceeded the quality found in SK.

I checked out thermae, the girls ages have gone up and the quality down, the older gals asking 1000St or more I overheard a guy being quoted 2000St.

Beergarden was quite bad with the older girls wanting 1000St def not my tasstes.

I checked out Baccara in soi cowboy, and again like my comments on rb definately some cuties there but nothing that would make me pay 600bf. 2000st, like all the japs and ang moh who left with girls.

Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.

Bangkok soapies 2000-7000 price range again for 1. 5 service not a bad option defe some cuties in the 2000, the higher priced range offers companionship supposedly they uni students part timers or otehr maketing.

Pattaya.

TYhis place is now fulled with Chinese tour gps, Russian holiday makers and generally lots of couples with kids, so this has made accodation choises limited and the cost going up, howver you can still find good guest houses.

The beer bars generally has older and uglier women and supposedly tehy are asking fro 1000+300bf, I saw none that really would make it work me paying that.

The gogo bars the girls are definately BKK standards, in the past BKK gogo bars the girls def better than patttaya but now I would say they are on par. But now the cost of girls has gone up in Pattaya 600bf and 2000St tho I got the feeling I could reduce down to 1500ST.

That being said there isn't much difference between pricing of Pattaya.

The coconut bar. Filled with oldies and ladybodys. The old ones are asking 700ST the cute ones 1000St, again none that really made me feel I should take.

The off duty gogobars found at the discos supposedly at 5-6am you can get girls for 1000LT ie 6-12noon. Again this isn't my style as I'm a bonk moning person and if I have spent the whole nite hunting I wouldn't be in the mood to bonk at that time just so I can save money.

I don't like disco, in my mind nothing is sadder than going into a disco and seeing a 40-50yr old man trying to relive his youth in a disco, regardless if he is with syt or not, call me narrow minded but its not something I think is a good look.

So in Pattaya I spent most of my time in soi 6 with gogo quality gals, sure you have to look to find them, and tehre has to be a measure of luck, but there I got unruished sessions for 700+300barfine and use of their ST rooms. The type of girls I like may not have big tits, may not speak any english, may not be tall and may not be fair, and so often they CMI in ang moh or jap orientated bars, but iof anyone has met me or seen the girls I like, they will no I'm not one to fish from the bottom of the barrell.

Pattay soapies 2000-3000 range in my view the girls same pricing as BKK but lower quality so not worth the effort.

In my time in thai, I got a GFE 90% of the time in vn its 60-70% of the time, LT are expensive in Vn St and BJ are the bargains.

Over all I like the advantages I have here in vn but trips to thai and AC are a definate must. In June ill go to sumatra and revisit indonesian gals and ill report my findings[/QUOTE]Where is Yangoon, where is SK.

Thanks.

Chris

Just arrived in Bangkok and gave soap massage places and freelance places a closer look. Here is my report (some nice information taken from "BangkokRedEye" online) :

I headed over to Huay Kwang district where I found the better soapy massage parlors. (MRT subway train). The fare cost 22THB and last about 10 minutes. When you reach Huay Kwang station follow the signs to Exit #3. I met all the massage parlors on the main street (Emanuelle, Nataree, The Lord and Alaina). Establishments charged between 2300 and 5500THB for 90min. In Alaina there was only ONE girl at 7pm, although it is supossedly the best time. They said because of Sunday. But this can't be really true as the other places were filled, especially The Lord and Nataree. Nataree was absolutely crazy, like 25 girls sitting on chairs as all the couches were taken, and also the fishbowl had some girls. Although the worst ones.

Got a nice were tiny and skinny girl there for 2600, with no stress and decent 90min. Yet massage was short, unprofessional and no body to body. Had the feeling she wanted to end quickly. The rooms in Nataree are borderline. Not really nice, but I was not there for a hotel experience.

Emanuelle was also good, with some very nice "Large" and "XL" girls (that's the way they term their girls quality). Yet I was unwilling to pay 4000-5000 for a second shot after just coming form Nataree (not fully loaded yet. .

I therefore headed back to Sukhumvit by MRT and checked the famous freelance place "Thermae Bar" in basement of the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel. Not too many girls there at 8pm (around 15) but at 10pm the place was full and very cute ones were appearing. Unfortunately I already made a pick before when I wanted to leave the place, otherwise I made have chosen differently. Damage was 2000 for very nice GFE and 2hrs staying together taking this and that (actually important to me, don't want to just "unload" and kick her out). LT for tomorrow is set at 4000. Let's see if also want.

Thereafter I also checked Nana Hotel's parking lot in Sukhumvit. And Indeed as suggested by BangkokRedEye there are lots and lots of girls there even around midnight. Just had the feeling that midnight might be too late for a super pick, as girls seemed to come back from other customers. And mixing with lots of ladyboys at Nana. Still you could find the one or other cutie. Didn't ask for prices though. Probably was afraid to not be able to say no then, and finally ending up with an embarassing and expensive massage only in the hotel after 2 shots already.

Will check tomorrow again what I do. Yet, the nice one from Thermae Bar is already following me and I do not dare to already decide for LT with here. Too many cuties of other kind around EVERYWHERE.

I just wonder if I should leave the area at all. Pattaya with sea and beaches is an option. But is it same quality and even better price there? As I prefer freelances I might be better off here in BGK. Right?

[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1405221]I therefore headed back to Sukhumvit by MRT and checked the famous freelance place "Thermae Bar" in basement of the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel. Not too many girls there at 8pm (around 15) but at 10pm the place was full and very cute ones were appearing. I just wonder if I should leave the area at all. Pattaya with sea and beaches is an option. But is it same quality and even better price there? As I prefer freelances I might be better off here in BGK. Right?[/QUOTE]I am like you and cater mostly the freelancemarket for p4p experience. Nice to finaly read some nice report from Thermae as well as I lately amongst the ISG crowd in here get the impression Thermae have turned into an all asian monger hub only dealing with chineese, korean and japanese crowd. Not true from my experience as I have had no problem going to Thermae getting girls for LT use even from the left line of women as well. From where inside did you pick your girl? I have never been in Thermae at your early hours I have mostly campaigned the venue in the after midnight hours. But good going. Nice to hear.

I would state that pattis is a tad cheaper for freelancegirls than BKK. But I don't know how pricesensitive you are and how hard you bargain. I hardly ever quote prices but pay at the end some money normaly 2-3000 in Pattaya for LT`s. In BKK I have more or less landed (in my head) a 3000 LT fare for freelancers picked up from nightclubs and a tad less for more streetlookalikepickups (but session have to be from good to excellent). NB! Spasso live its own life and it is a hidden agreement girls are normaly beeing paid around 5000 for LT take outs. Coyotedancinggirls from Mixxclub normaly don't go with customers but can be had for approx same ammount as Spasso. Please note hotties from both places can be had cheaper if you run into them in different locations. But I guess it is also a "each to his own" factor at stake here.

ST sessions I don't use so much with Beergarden beeing an exception for daytime poppings (1-2000 is fine).

In pattis Beachroadgirls runs from 500 to 1500 for ST`s. I have only had 2 Beachroad girls on two separate occations for turbo poppings lasting a maximum of only 10 minutes (pressure relief from my pipeline only) and I believe I just handed 500 or 1000. For each the girls.

The girls operating in typical mongerareas in LOS are mostly from same region so in that way not so big difference. I myself like BKK more as it has the international twist beeing a big big international city and all that crap where you have unlimited opertuneties from the lowest streetwalker to the hi so moviestar models. Pattaya have more beerbars but here you normaly will have to barfine I guess. My impression, and I underline this is my subjective meaning, is that freelancers in BKK in general are a bit more classy and not so hardned in the sexbusiness(maby more part time freelancing as also have daytime job). I feel also in general girls are better looking in BKK but this is a very thin ice statement and almost impossible to give a qualified evaluation regarding this. But I guess fresh farmgirls arrive everyday in both Pattis / BKK. Well my impression anyway. Just go to both places and see for yourself.

Pattaya: a bit cheaper Bangkok: the international bigcity feel (maby I am sensitive as my biggest city is Oslo, hehe)

[QUOTE=Skogis;1405243]I hardly ever quote prices but pay at the end some money normaly 2-3000 in Pattaya for LT`s.[/QUOTE]This can be a dangerous strategy. You get a girl who thinks she is worth more and you might end up with the a smashed up room and a police report.

I've read stories about girls calling the police and demanding something like 10, 000. But honestly, this can happen even if you pre-negotiate price.

My strategy is to make an offer once I know what the going rate is for the area, and not to ask the price. If you ask and she says 3000, and you counter with 2500, she will lose face to accept it.

Thanks a lot for the info. This helps. I almost expected something of that kind. So I will see if I can run on a small pool for a week instead of sea.

Actually I did not pick up my girl IN Therame Bar but on my way out I saw a nice girl preparing and directly took the chance and talked to her. We then went again in together. Actually when you come in from the mainstreet the left line looked really nice later at night. But what`s special about that? I would not have noticed a systematic quality difference left to right to anywhere.

And yes, there are some asian guys in there, but I did not have the impression that THEY run the place. Perhaps some guys are a bit asia-phobic when it comes to guys.

I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?

[QUOTE=Skogis;1405243]ST sessions I don't use so much with Beergarden beeing an exception for daytime poppings (1-2000 is fine).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AliGeeLi;1405259]I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?[/QUOTE]Playing daygames in lower Sukhumvit area are best after my experience in Beergarden (BG) Soi 7 and Gullivers Soi? (maby more early afternoon games). On the odd numbered Sukhumvit from 3-15 you can run into a few streetwalkers as well and Elena allways sitting outside Subway. There are also a lot of MP next to Villa Market Soi 11 and I hear people do take outs from these MP's for an advanced lunchbreak, hehe.

In Beergarden you will never find the most stunning beauties in Bangkok. But in my exp it is a decent crowd and you can get lucky and run into a rare 9. I use this place as a middaylocation to relieve some pressure so I am not hunting for the best GFE and only ST ofcourse. Fast in and fast out buying a beer just to be nice. I have actually almost only good sessions from BG and girls are friendly. So for pussypounding only a perfect and easy place. Atleast if you live close by.

[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405259]Thanks a lot for the info. This helps. I almost expected something of that kind. So I will see if I can run on a small pool for a week instead of sea.

Actually I did not pick up my girl IN Therame Bar but on my way out I saw a nice girl preparing and directly took the chance and talked to her. We then went again in together. Actually when you come in from the mainstreet the left line looked really nice later at night. But what`s special about that? I would not have noticed a systematic quality difference left to right to anywhere.

And yes, there are some asian guys in there, but I did not have the impression that THEY run the place. Perhaps some guys are a bit asia-phobic when it comes to guys.

I also noticed that you write of daygame. You mean Beergarden in Soi Sukhumvit 5 is a good option? Any other daygame places around?[/QUOTE]In Thermae, it seems the hotter, younger women are on the left. And the older, worn out women are on the right.

It's not impossible to score a woman in Thermae, but scoring a hot young girl is much more difficult if you are not Asian.

Someone pointed out earlier that it may be a size thing. If you are a big guy (body) , like me, then they are less likely to go with you. However, if you are small and / or young, then they are more likely to go.

The timing might be part of it as well. It sounds like you got a girl that was about to try another venue.

just got in last night.

flight: thai air from lax. this flight stops in seoul for about 1 hour. i usually take united, but wanted to try thai. i was in economy and service is fantastic. they are always feeding you and serving drinks. they served 3 full meals and a snack. they even clean the bathrooms during the flight. the flight arrived 2 minutes early at 1148pm.

immigration: i think they have made big improvements. it use to be a cluster fuck with a huge crowd and twisted unorganized lines.

the place is fully staffed and organized now the dividers for the line. there were several other flights coming in, but i got through there in about 10 minutes!

took a huge shit after all that food on the plane and exchanged some money.

taxi: i looked down from arrival area and saw a big line for taxis. it usually goes fast, but i was not in the mood, so i went to the arrival level and a dude just pulled up with a drop. i asked him."nana" and he said no problem. traffic was light. the fare was my lowest ever. 197 b plus 35 for the toll. gave him 250. he got to dynasty grand on soi 6 in about 23 minutes.

it took me less than an hour from touch down to soi 6. that is very quick from my experience.

pussy: i checked in and hit nana. there were probably 40 girls just near the parking lot. in my opinion, many were young and decent. i was surprised how many there were. i walked by twice and saw a real cutie. very short, petite. probably 4-11 and 95 pounds. her name was nok age 25. i approached and ask her what she would do for me lt. she said,"anything you want but not ass". i clarified the "anything", grabbed her hand and to my hotel we went. she looked so good naked and had a great body and cute face. she took care of me last night and this morning. she held on to me the whole time we slept. very nice girl. she said 1500 and i gave her 2k. i took a photo of her but cannot get the fucking thing to load for some reason.

after nok left, i had some breakfast and headed over to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. it was about 9am and 3 girls were out front. i chose bim.

she is thin and cute. i think one of the cuter girls i have seen at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. she stripped nude and had no problem with full roaming.

slow bbbjcim. 800 b.

i have 2 appts. this afternoon with thai ll girls. just for coffee, so we will see how it goes.

god, i love this town!

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Took a huge shit after all that food on the plane.

![/QUOTE]As in "too much information ".

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Just got in last night.

Taxi: I looked down from arrival area and saw a big line for taxis. It usually goes fast, but I was not in the mood, so I went to the arrival level and a dude just pulled up with a drop. I asked him."Nana" and he said no problem. Traffic was light. The fare was my lowest ever. 197 B plus 35 for the toll. Gave him 250. He got to Dynasty Grand on Soi 6 in about 23 minutes.

God, I love this Town![/QUOTE]Wondering what way he drove. Usually toll is 25+45. If you get out via Soi 23 it is 25 only. But never heard of a 35b. Toll gate.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1405353]Just got in last night.

I have 2 appts. This afternoon with Thai LL girls. Just for coffee, so we will see how it goes.

God, I love this Town![/QUOTE]Good start! What do you mean with Thai LL girls? Dating site?

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1405193]The most recent Stickman Weekly article reports that the new owners of NEP are transforming the plaza into ladyboys only. There will be no female go-go dancers at all! Apparently the existing ladyboy establishments are thriving while the bars with girls are having great difficulty finding good looking girls and are languishing. Stickman also reports that about half the guys booking short time hotel rooms are with ladyboys. Supposedly the owners are in discussions with owners of ladyboy bars in other locations to relocate their bar to NEP; and the go-go girls working at NEP will move to Soi Cowboy (which will have only female go-go dancers) , Patpong and even Pattaya.

Has anyone else heard anything about this?[/QUOTE]I am not 100% about this. If you notice he did aplogise for not meeting his normal 6pm deadline, but he say that the deadline was 6 hours and 1 minute late = 1 minute past midnight (April Fools Day.)

But hey, I could be wrong. Just think all those LB's in one place heee heeeeeeee