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Can we move all the general discussion on the economic situation and other topics to the general info section. Looking forward to reading more spicy reports here.
For the record I had to prepone my visit by a week and I arrive on 21st Oct.
If anyone wants to hang out and meet up over a beer let me know.
G.
[QUOTE=Gunners1;2224878]Can we move all the general discussion on the economic situation and other topics to the general info section. Looking forward to reading more spicy reports here.
For the record I had to prepone my visit by a week and I arrive on 21st Oct.
If anyone wants to hang out and meet up over a beer let me know.
G.[/QUOTE]G. , If we take you up on the beer, what are we allowed to talk about at the bar? Is conversation limited to cup sizes and malt beverages?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2224662]What procedure did you encounter a decade ago in AC?[/QUOTE]Well, actually, it's more 25 years ago. I remember giving 1000 pesos LT and this was already generous!
That was the time of the Firehouse in Mabini and the Fire fox, Jools, Mascara at Burgos st. ! Hahaha!
[QUOTE=RickRock;2224751]There are so many Filipinos working around the world that they have a name for it: OFWs. There are more than 10,500,000 of them at last count (with 20,000 in Thailand! It's a major pillar of the Philippines economy. In 2011, official remittances sent back from OFWs were $20,000,000,000 USD. That's the "official" number. The real number is likely much much higher.
As for why this exists in the Philippines and not Thailand, I think it's pretty obvious for anyone who has been to both countries. I guess it's not though, judging by some ponderous comments posted here. So let's look at the numbers.
Human Development Index (higher is better).
Thailand HDI 0. 755 - Ranked 83 of 193.
Philippines HDI 0. 699 - Ranked 113 of 193..[/QUOTE]This belongs in the AC Forum. I suggest the boss remove all the other PI Forums if the AC Forum is the appropriate place for economic discussions. Why try and be concise and organized when you have careless BMs here that defend their right to screw things up?
There's no other reason this off topic shite should be here. It's either carelessness or brainlessness. Either of these conditions are not treatable. It's just plain unbelievable.
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2224938]Well, actually, it's more 25 years ago. I remember giving 1000 pesos LT and this was already generous!
That was the time of the Firehouse in Mabini and the Fire fox, Jools, Mascara at Burgos st. ! Hahaha![/QUOTE]It depends on where you go. In AC, you pay once at the bar and maybe tip at the end, if she takes more than the end of your tip. In Manila, you pay the bar and then pay the girl the agreed upon amount.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2224966]It depends on where you go. In AC, you pay once at the bar and maybe tip at the end, if she takes more than the end of your tip. In Manila, you pay the bar and then pay the girl the agreed upon amount.[/QUOTE]In AC it has always been pay at bar. But since "the raids" some bars do not accept barfines, they ask you to pay directly to the girl. Angelwitch is one such place I know, though there was nothing to take out from there on my recent visit.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2225047]In AC it has always been pay at bar. But since "the raids" some bars do not accept barfines, they ask you to pay directly to the girl. Angelwitch is one such place I know, though there was nothing to take out from there on my recent visit.[/QUOTE]I was there for a couple of nights last week, and each of my two experiences were a "pay at the bar" deal. It seemed to me that nothing much had changed, but then I didn't do an extensive bar tour as I'm far too old to tolerate the assault on my ears of what passes for music in many of those places.
GE.
[QUOTE=Socker;2224954]This belongs in the AC Forum. I suggest the boss remove all the other PI Forums if the AC Forum is the appropriate place for economic discussions. Why try and be concise and organized when you have careless BMs here that defend their right to screw things up?
There's no other reason this off topic shite should be here. It's either carelessness or brainlessness. Either of these conditions are not treatable. It's just plain unbelievable.[/QUOTE]Bottom line from all this is: inflation has caused deflation with the old timers. Only can sit around and talk about the old times. 1 k LT BF 25 years ago. LOL. What did you make 25 years ago?
AC is still happening for me. Last week I visited some outer cities and hit up some previous AC girls and they all came and visited my hotel. 2 k to each for excellent LT.
Btw, I have never had a problem paying the bf before taking bg out. If I ever did it wasn’t worth remembering and regurgitating up again.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2225061]Bottom line from all this is: inflation has caused deflation with the old timers. Only can sit around and talk about the old times. 1 k LT BF 25 years ago. LOL. What did you make 25 years ago?
.....[/QUOTE]Check back here in 2043,25 years from now. There will be posts saying I remember the good old days back in 2018 when BF was 3 to 4 k LT. Then in 2068 it will be remember the good old days in 2043.
For everyone, the good old days in a place was when it was new to them.
2043? I don't think I'll be around for that.
The last time I was in AC I paid only one BF. Then there was a gal who used to work in the bar, but had recently broken up with a foreign BF. She stayed with me for 2 k per day for three days. ST with two other gals who I had met on previous visits. 2 k, both short time and both currently work in the bar. There were three others that I met online and all turned up for ST and I donated 2 k. One was back in town after a break with a foreign BF. One was in town visiting a cousin. The last one was a local gal. One of the tiniest little treats I've had in a long time. Seven gals in seven days. I probably could have negotiated for less, but didn't try. Nor did they seem in the least bit unhappy with two notes.
The point is. AC is still very much affordable.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2225120]Check back here in 2043,25 years from now. There will be posts saying I remember the good old days back in 2018 when BF was 3 to 4 k LT. Then in 2068 it will be remember the good old days in 2043.
For everyone, the good old days in a place was when it was new to them.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have any economic stats on the pussy index? Available AC Pussy per square meter. I believe it is still one of the highest (certainly higher than my home town) given that the spread starts at Perimeter and 'spreads' all the way to McDo Balibago.
But seriously I am always amazed at the speed at which girls will come into the AC scene or Pinalove scene, can spend a month or so meeting foreigners. If they are looking to get taken out of the town there is always a foreigner prepared to do it.
Had my first experience with a married girl who was still living in AC but married to an EU citizen 3-4 months after the wedding she was meeting guys again. Another friend (non-pro) has been faithful to her fiance for the past 5 months but she too starts to feel the urge when she has to wait another 7 months for his next visit.
If guys want to take girls out of the AC system then you simply have to get them actually out of the place. Staying home and staying faithful isn't in their genes.
Can anyone recommend 'normal' type of bar in Angeles where it's better to meet real local girls not freelancers?
I've had some success recently meeting 25-29 year old university students. But it still feels weird that they wear a school uniform. There was no system that I used, just random connection while going abut my business here.
Happy days continue to AC even if it is rainy.
BD.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2225061]Bottom line from all this is: inflation has caused deflation with the old timers. Only can sit around and talk about the old times. 1 k LT BF 25 years ago. LOL. What did you make 25 years ago?
AC is still happening for me. Last week I visited some outer cities and hit up some previous AC girls and they all came and visited my hotel. 2 k to each for excellent LT.
Btw, I have never had a problem paying the bf before taking bg out. If I ever did it wasnt worth remembering and regurgitating up again.[/QUOTE]I'm a late bloomer, finally getting to Asia in 2010. Things have changed more in Thailand than the PI during the last 8 years. Soi 4 was a dumpy worn out street in 2010 and now full of glitzy new bars and storefronts. Hell, I stayed at The Dynasty Inn my first trip w / all the crusty old guys (sitting at the entrance) gurgling flem. They even made that place semi nice in the last few years. Things have changed dramatically there.
WS in AC was a lot nicer back in early 2011 compared to now. Much more neon and the street surface was better than the farce it is now. I can't say the BG numbers have changed (memory issues) and I can't compare the talent levels from back then to now either. My memory tells me there were more young BGs on Fields. All I know now is on my last visit (8/18) there were many BGs I liked.
I like the finer things in life so I know I won't find any 9's or 10's in AC but there are a several 7's and a few 8's. The place is crawling w / 6's some very cute and fun so I like the place. These to me are still the good old days.
Things have changed in the last 8 years but AC still has a lot of magic if you can make do w / the 6's. The changes I noticed are the BGs are a little more business oriented but slightly, so it's still good. There's still no clock (on your BF) and almost zero BG rules.
Not so in Thailand. Thailand has many 8's and 9's but they come w / fun killing BG rules. Plus the bar starts the "2 hour clock" once you leave w / your BG. So those who don't mind the beautiful shithole AC has always been and can enjoy cute 6's has it made in the PI, and remember 2 6's add up to a 12!
Go to Thailand for the numerous stunners (w restrictions). Go to the PI for the freedom and wild bar hopping fun and of course the loving pinays.
These are still the good old days. AC is my kingdom and there are many fair maidens like this one ready to make the king happy.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2225052]I was there for a couple of nights last week, and each of my two experiences were a "pay at the bar" deal. It seemed to me that nothing much had changed, but then I didn't do an extensive bar tour as I'm far too old to tolerate the assault on my ears of what passes for music in many of those places.
GE.[/QUOTE]Me too GE. And I'm also far too old to tolerate the assault on my eyes of what passes for 'ladies' in many of those places LOL.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2224018]When you say long-term do you mean just for the long term of your week stay in AC or do you mean ongoing log term months and years.
For me, long term for a week, look to the bar scene.
Long term for life, look to dating sites and normal jane the all center girl.
BD.[/QUOTE]I absolutely mean just for the week; or maybe 4 nights then 3/4 nights with another. Just trying to avoid the 'bar scene' as a continual starting point each day.
To have a companion to hang out at the pool, walk with, shop and just companionship along with the 'fun activities' appeals to me as well.
[QUOTE=XMan;2225145]2043? I don't think I'll be around for that.
.....[/QUOTE]You mean you are not going to come to my 87th birthday party?
More girls, some of whom have not been born yet, for the rest of us then. Your loss LOL.