Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;2070779]Gogo staff ruining this trip for me. Constantly rude constantly pushing me to order another drink. I just go soi6 and ibar. Fuck these guys. Dollhouse is quality. Others can go get fucked. Got quoted a 2 k barfine at 1 am. No Thai angels this trip. But soi 6 does have some quality this time around. GoGo seems to lack quality. Maybe they all on holiday. Anyway, off to awkwardly find a ST at ibar.[/QUOTE]Which gogo bars have lousy staff and which gogo bars are lacking quality?

I went to a gogo bar on walking street where some of the dancers completely strip. One of the dancers beckoned me over to sit next to the sttage. It was pretty cool in that I could touch. One dancer took my hands and placed it on the pussy of another dancer. You could suck on a nipple if you wanted. One girl was bent over in front of me and I took my hands and spread her cheeks to get a better look.

It was expensive though. I bought one a bar drink. The others said they would rather have a 100 baht tip. You have to tip if you are going to be hands on. Maybe you don't have to but it would be jerk not to. And it escalated from 1 girl to 2 to 3 pretty quick. One of them Slid her hand up my shorts and underpants. It was cool but not something I will do again anytime soon.

What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic. When I researched coming here 12 years ago, there was a lot of talk of the women didn't like butterflys. I don't see that concern stated much now.

The reason I don't just go to another beer bar is because I like to be closer to my motel. I think I am on naklua road. I am past dolphin fountain where the road turns back to 2 way.

Hello,

Just got back from Pattaya for a 5 night stay. This was my 4th trip here, and it was mixed with a couple of weeks in the Philippines prior to getting here. My overall impressions in my short stay there was that Soi 6 has really improved and you are able to find more pretty girls than in the past where you really had to scour to find good girls there. Costs are around 1300 baht for short time service which includes the girl and room fee above the bar. The talent varies from bar to bar so you really just have to walk up and down the street in front of the bars and view the ladies and stop in a bar where one girl peaks your interest. I found the girls here were not super pushy for lady drinks and were more interested in getting you to go upstairs with them and all were eager. Unlike the gogos, if you sit with a girl, you will get the pesky waitresses asking you to buy another lady drink for the girls right away.

One thing that has really gotten out of control, as posted before, is the super high prices for the gogo girls on Walking Street. I was in bars such as Skyfall, Sensations, What's Up, and Sapphire all which had top notch quality girls but none of the girls would budge off of 3 k baht for short time and 5 k for long time. On top of this bar fines were 1500 baht or 1000 baht (after midnight prices drop by 500 baht for the bar fines in most bars). So, by the time I did the math and included lets say 2 lady drinks, I was looking at about 200 US dollars for long time and 130 US dollar for these girls. These prices are outrageous, and I just don't see the justification for these prices in Thailand where the cost of living is so inexpensive. I mean, this price is more than short time service in FKK clubs in Europe. The thing I did was to combat this, was to have to settle for Soi 6 and the girls in Insomnia or IBar which I was able to get for 1800-2500 baht short time. Unfortuantely, you will be hard pressed to see the hot quality go go type girls in these venues.

Other than the super high prices of top gogo bars, I still enjoy coming to Pattaya. One nice thing I did was to have a tailor shop custom make me shirts for about 850 baht each which were unbelievable quality. What a great deal. Also, you can find Tshirts, shorts, running shoes many of which are designer knockoffs along Beach road, at Mikes Mall, etc. Also, the seafood buffet at Flare restaurant in the Hilton is an amazing dining experience if you want something higher end.

I wanted to know if there are any other places (bars, freelancers, gogos) that mongers can recommend that I am not going to where one can find better looking girls (comparable to better gogo girls) where prices are under 2500-4 k all in for short and long time? Or is that just not going to happen? I did of course mention Soi 6 and Insomnia / IBar girls do fit this need for us. Thanks.

SB.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2070854]What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic.[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2070859]Hello,

I wanted to know if there are any other places (bars, freelancers, gogos) that mongers can recommend that I am not going to where one can find better looking girls (comparable to better gogo girls) where prices are under 2500-4 k all in for short and long time? Or is that just not going to happen? I did of course mention Soi 6 and Insomnia / IBar girls do fit this need for us. Thanks.

SB.[/QUOTE]There 2 more options.

1st is the Beach Road girls, but most of them are bad, only if you are lucky you will a good one.

2nd is the Beer Gardens. One is opposite Mike Shopping Centre. But I like the one which is in the start of Sai Song (Second Road) go opposite Honey 2 Soapy Massage, walk for 5 minutes on the left. There is a big Beer Garden where you can pick up girls. Each bar have 5 or 6 girls. Damage is same as Soi 6, but only thing is you have to take her to your room.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2070873]Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. [/QUOTE]Completely agree. The only girls who don't like men who are butterflies are the the non-hookers at the bar. In a lot of bars the servers are not P4 P, this is just their normal job. That's why they are there from 6 pm until 2 am. They don't disappear at 11 pm with a guy.

You want to bar fines different girls then just do it. Want to wait for one you've had before, that's fine, but she may have other customers lined up. Just use common sense.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2070873]Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.[/QUOTE]Can somebody make this post a sticky and a must read for every newb? Learnt this the easy way (RTFF) but every (ongoing Pattaya trip) experience has reinforced this.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2070873]Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.[/QUOTE]100% agree, over the years of visiting Thailand I've seen many people stick with the first girl that sits next to them, and in the end this will ruin your trip. Be decisive and do what you like; yes you will get the odd girl that give you a look as you decide on some other lady but who cares as its your trip. As Mr Enternational says the golden rule is – he who has the gold makes the rules.

So I went back to see one girl, but she was busy. She set me with her friend. I think they are close friends. Afterwards she asked me how she compared to first woman. I said somehothing about getting them both at same time. She said okay, but I am not sure if she understood what I was asking. Anyway would the price be the same of each of them that it was with just one? I paid 1000 short time. So for both 2000. Or do they want extra?

I really appreciate all the help and answers I have been getting.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2070854]What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic. When I researched coming here 12 years ago, there was a lot of talk of the women didn't like butterflys. I don't see that concern stated much now.

The reason I don't just go to another beer bar is because I like to be closer to my motel. I think I am on naklua road. I am past dolphin fountain where the road turns back to 2 way.[/QUOTE]If she goes out with other guys then why is the other way round so difficult? And for God's sake she is hooker man. Get a grip! Bang a pussy, don't be one.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2071082]So I went back to see one girl, but she was busy. She set me with her friend. I think they are close friends. Afterwards she asked me how she compared to first woman. I said somehothing about getting them both at same time. She said okay, but I am not sure if she understood what I was asking. Anyway would the price be the same of each of them that it was with just one? I paid 1000 short time. So for both 2000. Or do they want extra?

I really appreciate all the help and answers I have been getting.[/QUOTE]Extra? When you go to a cheap store and buy a t-shit for $10, usually buying two will cost you less than $20. Principles of economics do not change just because you are shopping for a different commodity.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2070859]One thing that has really gotten out of control, as posted before, is the super high prices for the gogo girls on Walking Street. I was in bars such as Skyfall, Sensations, What's Up, and Sapphire all which had top notch quality girls but none of the girls would budge off of 3 k baht for short time and 5 k for long time. On top of this bar fines were 1500 baht or 1000 baht (after midnight prices drop by 500 baht for the bar fines in most bars). So, by the time I did the math and included lets say 2 lady drinks, I was looking at about 200 US dollars for long time and 130 US dollar for these girls. These prices are outrageous, and I just don't see the justification for these prices in Thailand where the cost of living is so inexpensive. I mean, this price is more than short time service in FKK clubs in Europe. The thing I did was to combat this, was to have to settle for Soi 6 and the girls in Insomnia or IBar which I was able to get for 1800-2500 baht short time. Unfortuantely, you will be hard pressed to see the hot quality go go type girls in these venues.[/QUOTE]I see your problem. You want a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. Sigh!

[QUOTE=Womaniszer;2070913]There 2 more options.

1st is the Beach Road girls, but most of them are bad, only if you are lucky you will a good one.

2nd is the Beer Gardens. One is opposite Mike Shopping Centre. But I like the one which is in the start of Sai Song (Second Road) go opposite Honey 2 Soapy Massage, walk for 5 minutes on the left. There is a big Beer Garden where you can pick up girls. Each bar have 5 or 6 girls. Damage is same as Soi 6, but only thing is you have to take her to your room.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]I've been told to check out beer garden on Pattayasaisong 13 which I believe is referred to as Soi Diana. Even with all my research I'm still not 100% on google street names vs local nicknames. Two mentioned were Fernidad beer and Lucky 1. I've seen them on vlogs since. Had some younger hotties. I plan on checking them out in a couple weeks when I arrive.

Where is your favorite one at Womaniszer? By your instructions I'd say it's actually located halfway down Pattayasaisong 3 alley? Next to central center. Thinking I'm going to extend my stay a day or two and stay at siam siam. Get a good dose of soapies and Soi 6. Like to have another place to visit on that side of town.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2071094]Extra? When you go to a cheap store and buy a t-shit for $10, usually buying two will cost you less than $20. Principles of economics do not change just because you are shopping for a different commodity.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was just about to write that I would offer them less. If 1 girl then she would get 100% of my power. If 2 girls I can only give each girl 50% of my power. So with 2 girls they each make money easier than if they were alone. But instead of paying them 50% of 1 girl cost I would give them each 80% of 1 girl cost.

At a brothel that I go to in the Dominican Republic it works that way. 1 girl $25 ,2 girls $42 for the hour.