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[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1129311]For my, its about the fucking, not BBBJ so maybe thats why a CBJ its not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how many hundreds of BBBJ I've had in the last 10 years, in clubs, Laufhäuser, apartments. And. Never did catch anything.
HB
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1129311]For my, its about the fucking, not BBBJ so maybe thats why a CBJ its not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE]Personally I think we should put this topic to bed. Lots of speculation, not much fact. This is a bad mix in my opinion.
The Kid speaks the most sense I think. If the possibility of a STD really bothers you go for a CBJ or stay home.
AM
Things have gone up some from the last time I was at Artemis. It's now 80 euros to get in versus 70. A half hour session is up from 50 to 60 euros, and it goes up 60 euros per half hour increment from there. Alcohol, including beer, is still a ridiculous 10 euros per drink. Good thing it's still only 50 euros extra to sperm in a hot girl's mouth and 100 euros extra to take her tight arsehole. I was surprised (and overjoyed!) that hot and petite Marketa takes it in her tight little pink Czech butt hole. Just goes to show it's not the size of the girl that counts. Lynn (Julia) has a big ass but she won't let me cornhole her. Kinda like it's not the size of dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog!
[QUOTE=Basketcase; 1129265]Norjan,
Regarding your point about guys that get STDs that do not tell the girl or do not tell the club I agree with you. During my times in this hobby and funnily more often heard in the FKKs are other fuckers that do get STDs but just go get it fixed then go back to the hobby like a duck to water.
Some do report it to the club but the occassional feedback is that they want to return to that club again and to create a fuss may be a black mark against them by the club and by the girls who hear of it. You become tainted by being associated with having a disease. So these guys consider this and do not make a fuss with the club. It is good to hear these stories from other fuckers. Locals and non locals. I have heard it from both sides.
I totally admire the men that do write on this forum and say that this has happened since their good conscience says that they need to warn their fellows. It is interesting that this STD spate of stories comes out now since I did hear some more stories from locals when I was last in the clubs. These guys as far as I know do not post on any forums. They are just locals. I ended up doing something a bit different which was not in the clubs with a safer bet. [/QUOTE]Thanks for being a sane person, something the majority here shows a lack of.
You were at a club but chose not to monger because of what you heard about STD:s?
Norjan
today i had the tests to isolate the problem (bacteria) : 3 times they inserted a sort of needle into the opening of my penis for about 15 seconds each time (where you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] and ejaculate). each insertion hurt more than the previous one and at the last one a tear came out of my left eye from the pain. after the test i bought the antibiotics that they gave me last time.
the risk of stds is a fact, but i don't know what is the % of taking it through uncovered oral sex (passive and active). but if you get it there is pain involved and risks if not cured properly.
this is the second time i took one out of about 100 encounters (so for me is 2% of sex with prostitutes). probably unlucky but i don't know statistics.
one was in 2007 (very painful gonorrhoea) and one now (not painful but the tests were) , both at artemis (where i had most of them anyway).
it all comes down to the fact if you think it is worth the risk or not. i'm sure i will be mongering again sooner or later.
the problem shouldn't be made too big but also not too little. the pain is the pain if you get std, plus wasted time plus money on visits and meds. if you are married or something you will have also some explanations to handle. on the other hand we can fuck young beautiful girls for 60 eur.
[QUOTE=Big30; 1129290]Hi Norjan,
No. I am still waiting for your answer about how you did your math calculations, the FMEA analysis. But also why you think that based only upon 2 non-confirmed reports, only on this board we should conclude there is an epidemy in Artemis. There is no formal prove for that.
B30[/QUOTE]You obviously haven't even read my answer.
I've never said there is an epidemy.
I haven't't done calculations nor any FMEA analysis.
Norjan
I was thinking that maybe some guys are immune to STD:s?
That would explain why some can do hundereds of BBBJ:s with prostitutes and not catch anything.
And maybe some are more susceptible?
Norjan
[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129635]Thanks for being a sane person, something the majority here shows a lack of.
You were at a club but chose not to monger because of what you heard about STD:s?
Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan,
When I was last in the clubs in February I did discuss with a fucker that he got a STD in the club that he picked up from BBBJ with a girl. He say he only do covered sex and do not lick the muschi so it must be BBBJ. The girl is not one that I would book but it did make me think a bit. In the end I decided to do something different outside the club. I did monger though.
[QUOTE=The Cane; 1128539]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.
And you know what I did right? That's right my friends! I cornholed her deep up in that Czech butthole of hers and was saying out loud so all in the kino could hear how I was fucking her in her asshole. Was surprised that such a petite little girl like that was taking it so well up the yin yang.
That asshole was TIGHT and had to work my way up in there. Almost thought I wasn't going to make it. If that was Marketa (that's the name I remember anyway) , then she was a damn good butt fuck! Her friend didn't do anal but spit all over my dick (I LOVE that) then took one hell of a hard and rough slam fuck (received many knowing smiles from them both later throughout the evening). [/QUOTE]Hi.
I also had the pleasure of a session with this very pretty blonde last week. She sidled up to me in the bar and we got talking. She is intelligent and a good conversationalist. Mostly we spoke about the relative merits of the various FKK clubs. She appears to have worked at most of them at one time or another. She certainly had some interesting stuff to say about FKK Globe in particular.
Marketa (prob. Wrong spelling) is really pretty. Slim and blonde with perfect tits and a great butt. I guess she's in her late 20's? Service was good. Typical top-quality pro Artemis session without any of the fireworks that occasionally happen when you really click with a girl. Most of the personal stuff she told me leads me to suppose that Marketa is a girl who prefers to retain control over her life in every way possible, so full-on GFE is perhaps not on the menu with this girl, although I am happy to be corrected by anyone who has managed to extract a more personal and intimate performance from her than I did.
Were it not for the odd stellar GFE sessions that I've had in the past with some of the ladies, I would have probably described my time with Marketa as about as good as it can get. Georgeous girl, lovely body, nice personality, great BBBJ and energetic sex. Who could ask for more? Well, I've had even better times at Artemis with the half-a-dozen or so girls that I really get it on with, so Marketa won't be a repeat for me I expect, but I would highly recommend her anyway as a stereotypical top-rate professional fuck in the best Artemmis traditions.
Charlie
[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129640]I was thinking that maybe some guys are immune to STD:s?
That would explain why some can do hundereds of BBBJ:s with prostitutes and not catch anything.
And maybe some are more susceptible?
Norjan[/QUOTE]Good general health (as in eating right and exercise) boost you immune system generally, but I really doubt there is any type of STD immunity since any such genetic or other type of immunity is usually pretty well published and often followed by a discovery of vaccine. Then again maybe there is and it is just yet to be properly researched.
[QUOTE=Henio;1129694]Good general health (as in eating right and exercise) boost you immune system generally, but I really doubt there is any type of STD immunity since any such genetic or other type of immunity is usually pretty well published and often followed by a discovery of vaccine. Then again maybe there is and it is just yet to be properly researched.[/QUOTE]A significant percentage of prostitutes are immune from some STDs. This is probably due to being exposed to minute quantites of infectious agents for a long time. Being constantly challenged, can boost your immune system if you are healthy.
Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body.
Hey guys. Unless there is some specific new factual info I.
Would appreciate if we could move on. Maybe a nice trip report.
Some of us have to live
Vicariously until we get back there (35 days. 7 hours. But
Who is counting?)
[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1129638]Today I had the tests to isolate the problem (bacteria)[/QUOTE]Buck. Sent you a PM about this. But as you're posting here, I'll just ask again.now that Nurse Crotchett seems to have finished reaming your weener- (yikes that did not sound like fun).
What exactly is the diagnosis-you mention "bacteria" but that's a wee bit vague. Maybe you don't know yet but when you do. Chlamydia?
Are you really sure it was at Artemis vs. Say some other prior encounter. Given incubation periods which in the case of Chlamydia can be up to 3 weeks? Did your doctor say anything about this?
You can PM back. It is indeed helpful and noble of you to talk about it and share the facts, vs. All sorts of theories and speculation here. Thanks for writing.
[QUOTE=Customx; 1129749]Hey guys. Unless there is some specific new factual info I.
Would appreciate if we could move on. Maybe a nice trip report.
Some of us have to live
Vicariously until we get back there (35 days. 7 hours. But
Who is counting?)[/QUOTE]OK. Perhaps I can help you with your vicarious living.
Yesterday, I found my way to Artemis. I have never been to an FKK, in fact, I had never heard of them until about two or three months ago.
I arrived at the club at 17:00. I have read a lot about them, and I have seen the posts from many members of this site, but I have to tell you that nothing prepared me for what I saw. First of all, the building looks like a hotel. It's absolutely huge. I went in, paid my entrance fee and was surprised and (happily) shocked to see naked women in the locker area. They were everything that any man could want. I showered and went to the bar, ordering a drink. The eye candy factor alone is worth the entrance fee. I would happily have paid 80 Euro to sit at the bar for a few hours, simply watching the naked women, not a single one of which was below a 7.
10 years of mongering has taught me that I connect well and have much better sessions with the more experienced ladies. Scanning the room, I saw a girl of about 30, sitting on a couch behind the bar. (One point to make to newbies here. Virtually ANY eye contact with one of the women will bring her to you. If you want to avoid fending off the advances of ladies you don't fancy, look away quickly once eye contact is made.) Anywho, I made eye contact with Joy, the lady on the couch. She came to me at the bar, and we chatted for a bit. She has a great smile-another good omen as far as I'm concerned. The "Paris Hilton face" on some of the hotter younger women is a sign of someone who may well be distant during your session. Joy was not in any way high-pressure, and I told her that I had only just arrived and was going to sit and have a drink. She smiled and returned to her couch. After some time, I decided to join her. We chatted for a bit, and she snuggled up to me, giving me some kisses. Well, my plan to enjoy the eye candy went straight into the toilet at that point, and I chose a one hour session with Joy, who is from Lithuania. We went to the room, and proceeded to have an extremely enjoyable time. After ten years, I can usually sense if there is going to be a vibe within the first five minutes. I sensed that with Joy in the first 15 seconds. What progessed from there was amazing. She gave me a fantastic OWO BJ. I went down on her for probably half of my session. When she reaches orgasm, it's amazing. You can sense it coming, and then there is one loud yell. We had three postions, and I finished doggy style. There were only two things that were off limits. No fingers in the holy of holies, and no anal. The former was the only downside for me, but the latter doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. After I finished, I was given a very nice massage, and she asked me if I wanted to go again. When I was 25 or 30, I would have taken her up on this, but at 44, I decided against it as I knew I would want to sample the other goodies. There is a picture of Joy on the Artemis website. Body is amazing. Small breasts, small build, but extremely fit with very good muscle tone. As I mentioned, we gelled quite well, and had a very nice conversation in addition to the session.
Looks-8,
Performance-10
After this session, I had another couple of drinks, then went to the restaurant and had a very nice dinner. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food there. Back to the bar and fended off the approaches of a couple of women. Most of the ladies are not high pressure, but a couple of them are a bit more than others. However, nothing is done in too much of a pushy way. I scheduled a hamam with Farid. I have never had a hamam, or heard of one for that matter, and I think I might have lost two kilos in loose skin. I relaxed in the bar area downstairs and Joy came looking for me to say goodbye, as she was leaving. She came over, sat down and we chatted for a bit more. She kept saying,"I like you", which was a nice touch. In my mongering career, there are perhaps 8-10 ladies that I wish I would have met in circumstances other than a client / provider role. I am officially adding Joy to that list. We really clicked, and she's one of the type of people that I could fall in love with, which I don't normally do.
Went into the kindo for a bit and was joined by a short-haired Bulgarian girl. She sat down, and despite what I have read, I allowed her to start blowing me in the kino. I did not want to session with her, as I was still in recovery mode, but it's difficult to say no to a blowjob. (I cannot remember her name, but she's a tall dark-haired girl, who is probably in her late 20s. Not a stunner, but not unnattractive either.) We took a room next to the kino for a half-hour session. She was a bit of an actress, and I didn't really bond with her very well. She did put in a lot of effort to get and keep me hard, but again, it just wasn't happening for me. . . Although I did eventually manage to get off during sex.
Looks: 7.
Performance: 6 (only because of the lack of connection)
Back to the bar for some coffee and a cigarette. By this time, the night shift was there. If I had been blown away when I entered Artemis, I was doubly blown away at this point. In all my wildest dreams, I have never imagined a room with so many incredibly beautiful women with little or no clothing. There was one older lady (very long straight blonde hair and very large bulbous fake tits) that I quite fancied, but there were so many people there by that point, and I didn't want to approach her. Two other ladies that did approach me, but I declined looked yummy as well. One was Lennie, and another was a 22 year old from Bulgaria or Romania with mid-length auburn hair, perhaps her name was Jessie? Does anyone have experience with either of these two? Jessie was perhaps the most high-pressure of the ladies that I met during my 8 hour visit. She was very nice, but it was difficult for her to accept "no". When I said that I was still recovering, and that I wasn't ready to go with anyone else for an hour, she said that she would sit there until I was ready, a bit of an uncomfortable situation. I eventually excused myself, and when I returned to the bar area, she was gone.
I had noticed a dark-haired girl with a beautiful smile. Fortunately, she came and sat next to me at the crowded bar. I eventually selected a one-hour session with her. Her name is Vivian. . . I think. She's not skinny, but has just the right amount of curves. 26 years old, with a very well done boob job. We had a very nice session. Her blowjob skills are very, very good. She kept asking me to come in her mouth for an extra 50, which I respectfully declined-I personally don't care where my seed goes after it exits my body, so 50 is an additional amount that I would prefer to keep in my wallet. Anal was also available. We had a pretty good connection, and the sex mirrored that. I went down on her, and although it took a while, she did reach orgasm. She would not permit me to put my fingers inside of her, joking that she has things inside of her all the time, and that she preferred to have the outside stimulated orally. It was difficult to not come with her tremdous oral skills, but I held off, and we had sex with her on top, doggy, and me on top. After the session, she offered to try to get me off again, but I was completely spent. I haven't had sex three times in one day in a long, long time. She did however, give me a tremendous massage.
Looks: 7.
Performance: 9.
All in all, a phenomenal day at Artemis. I shall return.