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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2507266]There's no lockdown in Sweden, despite the closed museums. Yet again you continue with your false and ignorant comments.
It's still funny to see that Sweden has less deaths per capita than France despite the lockdown in France. Didn't France close their museums?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=McAdonis;2506841]From Fox New, straight from Tegnell's mouth:
Captures the point I was trying to make. Behavior of the population might actually matter more than the lockdown mandate. Between (A) nationwide lockdown where half the population ignores it and (B) voluntary lockdown where 90 percent of the population comply, I believe the latter is more effective.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The issue of herd immunity is difficult, Anders Tegnell, Swedens top epidemiologist, said at a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday, according to Bloomberg. We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now.
"In common with other countries were trying to slow down the spread as much as possible. ... To imply that we let the disease run free without any measures to try to stop it is not true, Tegnell told the publication at the time.
I want to make it clear, no, we did not lockdown like many other countries, but we definitely had a virtual lockdown, Tegnell continued. Swedes changed their behavior enormously. We stopped traveling even more than our neighboring countries. The airports had no flights anywhere, the trains were running at a few percent of normal service, so there were enormous changes in society.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/herd-immunity-not-stopping-coronavirus-spread-sweden[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mursenary;2506030]So what's your end goal here with these posts? To assert that nothing has changed in Sweden from 2 months ago? Or to assert that no mitigation efforts are justified? Or to suggest that Sweden has made no mitigation efforts at all? How about we set a permanent goal post for whatever it is you are trying to convince everyone here. Let's be specific.[/QUOTE]Short answer, there is no end goal. Just the endless ramblings of jester.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2507266]
There's no lockdown in Sweden, ...
It's still funny to see that Sweden has less deaths per capita than France despite the lockdown in France. Didn't France close their museums?[/QUOTE]Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.
Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))
Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.
Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2507384]Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.
Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))
Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.
Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.[/QUOTE]Compare Sweden to their Nordic neighbors, which is most appropriate given the very similar demographics and logistics, and your whole thesis falls apart. That's given the much higher per capita death rates, for example Sweden 11 times that of Norway. Then you have many countries with widespread compliance with health measures, masks, social distancing, etc. Like Thailand, South Korea, and Taiwan that did extremely well at saving lives and your notion plummet even further. It still amazes me how far so many here go to keep repeating the same fallacies over and over even after they've comprehensively refuted at least 50 times already. It doesn't say much for the IQ of the average monger.
[URL]https://www.logicalfallacies.org/argument-from-repetition.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2507384]Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.
Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))
Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.
Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.[/QUOTE]Yes for sure, Sweden 10 million people nearly 7000 deaths, very great success.
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Just a Little Follow Up
Masks don't work.
Social distancing doesn't work.
Covid is no worse than the flu.
US doctors are inflating the numbers for profit.
Vaccines can never work because Covid mutates.
Hugo Chavez, George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and a Venezuelan voting machine software company stole the election from Trump.
That's just a small sample. It's the age of the internet, so just lie, ignore all contrary evidence or requests for proof, and lie some more. Be encouraged as a lot of people in this day and age have an insatiable appetite for this stuff. Wink.
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For French shit cars, when Ferrari, Lamborghini, MacLaren, Porsche supercars don't reach 350 km / h, when Formula 1 are at maximum 370 km / h, but made with French brains and hands, Bugatti, Germans are not able to build among VAG group, is not far from 450 km / h very soon. I also remember V6 engine PRV in Alpine A310 , but also Renault, Peugeot, Citroen and even Volvo, with last letter V for Volvo. If we take Volvo V40 , Golf, Audi A3 not quattro, BMW1 not xdrive, Mercedes A class, any Japanese in this category and 308 , all with same engine power, 150/180 or 200 power, on north Nuburgring which is the truth to test cars performances, then 308 Peugeot is first for sure, because Peugeot have the best sporty balance since decades. Of course in France, not many powerful cars, because speed is like a crime, but when I m arrested overspeeding by French police, they don't put me in jail, when I was never caught overspeeding in Switzerland but treated like a criminal and put with Albanian drugs dealers.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2507384]Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.
Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))
Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.
Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.[/QUOTE]Stockholm did compete with NYC for highest covid deaths rate and more than 500 per million deaths in Sweden. NL preferred to confine for second wave, but Sweden is like Trump, thinking to be stronger than others, killing many old and poor.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2507384]Thank god Sweden didn't lockdown.
Its like a control experiment to examine if lockdown and masks works ((with Sweden being the control group))
Now everyone can see using worldmeter. Com that Lockdown and Mask didn't save millions of lives as it was advertised, Or Sweden would have at least +60,000 death by no lockdown which didn't happen.
Actually Lockdown and mask didn't do anything exept scaring people, Sweden death per capita shows that very clearly.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's not how science or basic logic works. As evidenced by lower death rates in New Zealand, Australia, and basically every country on the continent of Asia.
On the flip, Central and South American countries would be doing the best.
Fucking assholes with agendas.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2507389]Yes for sure, Sweden 10 million people nearly 7000 deaths, very great success.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's great. So many countries are worse affected despite their lockdowns. No European country got rid of the virus. Now they have to have 3-4 lockdowns a year just to keep the numbers down. Crazy. People forget about the other diseases that kills people.
Many countries regret their lockdowns now. Just look at Napoli, they are angry and tired of the government trying to destroy their lives. Have fun in prison.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2507391]For French shit cars, when Ferrari, Lamborghini, MacLaren, Porsche supercars don't reach 350 km / h, when Formula 1 are at maximum 370 km / h, but made with French brains and hands, Bugatti, Germans are not able to build among VAG group, is not far from 450 km / h very soon. I also remember V6 engine PRV in Alpine A310 , but also Renault, Peugeot, Citroen and even Volvo, with last letter V for Volvo. If we take Volvo V40 , Golf, Audi A3 not quattro, BMW1 not xdrive, Mercedes A class, any Japanese in this category and 308 , all with same engine power, 150/180 or 200 power, on north Nuburgring which is the truth to test cars performances, then 308 Peugeot is first for sure, because Peugeot have the best sporty balance since decades. Of course in France, not many powerful cars, because speed is like a crime, but when I m arrested overspeeding by French police, they don't put me in jail, when I was never caught overspeeding in Switzerland but treated like a criminal and put with Albanian drugs dealers.[/QUOTE]French cars are just as shitty as your English.
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I still have my 12 points on my driving license, never got a speed fine, drove millions of kilometres, every year around 80000. I only drive land Cruiser diesel. A car is a tool to go from one place to another not a mean to express your frustrations. Strong men don't need strong cars, they are strong. Over speeding is just not respecting the others is considering that the roads belong to you in a kind of exclusivity, is considering that you are over the others, better than the others.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2507444]French cars are just as shitty as your English.[/QUOTE]ShooBree what's your native tongue?
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It's
[QUOTE=Turgid;2507576]ShooBree what's your native tongue?[/QUOTE]"Assholish" is what it is.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2507580]"Assholish" is what it is.[/QUOTE]Yep, the loose variety that just uncontrollably oozes out shit. No wipe, just sits up, buckles his pants, and walks along his merry way leaving a trail of pure liquid shit.
Accompanied with a couple of other shit oozing assholes when speaking of this topic.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2507387]Compare Sweden to their Nordic neighbors, which is most appropriate given the very similar demographics and logistics, and your whole thesis falls apart. That's given the much higher per capita death rates, for example Sweden 11 times that of Norway.[/QUOTE]I would add cultural, social, and economic similarities to their Nordic neighbors as well. The harsh winters, which could last up to nine months, cultivated a people that is by nature socially distant and who maintain small social circles. This article dated March 28th offers insight into the Swedish culture and how it benefits them in the age of social distancing:
[QUOTE]While people around the world are climbing the walls due to coronavirus lockdowns and social distancing, 21-year-old Swede Cajsa Wiking is unfazed by the prospect of spending time alone in her one-bedroom apartment in Uppsala.
“We are pretty good at staying home and aren't very social compared to other cultures...so that makes it easier for us,” she says. “I’m doing things like organising my closet, working out at home and I’m also reading more.”
More than half of all Swedish homes are, like Wiking’s, made up of one resident, the highest proportion in Europe, according to Eurostat figures. The most common age to move out from your parents’ place is between 18 and 19, compared to an EU average of 26.
Some experts believe that these living patterns might help stem the spread of coronavirus; in current hotspots for infections including Italy and Spain, it is – by contrast – much more common for large families to congregate under one roof..[/QUOTE]Here are some Quora answers from 2016 to 2018 to the question [B]"Why are Nordic people so cold and unwilling to have social relations especially with foreigners or with people they do not know?"[/B].
TLDR, Nordic people aren't known to be "warm" towards people that they do not already know. [URL]https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Nordic-people-so-cold-and-unwilling-to-have-social-relations-especially-with-foreigners-or-with-people-they-do-not-know[/URL].