Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2558710]
Whenever you go to 4 x4, also.

Go to Terma 31 and Club 116.[/QUOTE]If I am able to make my trip, I am going to follow your track. But I will stay near Lapa or Centro first, then go check out Transamerica and may move there to be your neighbor after I have enough of Centro. haha

When a girl asks how long you are staying the answer is always a year.

When a girl asks where you are from the answer is always Salvador.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558791]Thanks, Vagabundo. While I respect Natty and Anaggie for their recent trips and reports, I also respect your demeanor in these conversations. They're not argumentative. But sound like sound advice for those with the luxury of time. It's easy for these conversations to devolve into arguments about local market price, tourists driving prices up, etc.

I'm planning on visiting RJ for a few days after landing in SP. Do you think your strategy still applies? You preface your post with a minimum week long trip to Rio. So if I'm only visiting for 4 days, should I just go to the boates / termas and session there?[/QUOTE]

Generally, Rio de Janeiro is a suruba.

A suruba is a gangbang.

Everyone walks around in robes like The Dude in the Big Lebowski, or John Belushi in Animal House, or Caligula in Caligula.

Everyone is naked under the robe, except for a bottle of lube in the robe's pocket.

Everyone fucks everyone else.

On the beach.

On the subway.

In the office buildings.

In the stores, the restaurants, the parking lots.

There is a low cloud that sits over the city, it is from the smoke from weed.

LSD is pumped into the water, and Jimi Hendrix, who never died, plays free concerts in Barra, where we gather in large fields, to fuck, play soccer, and fight.

No pussies are allowed.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2558714]If the name of this website doesn't necessarily imply that it's a mongering board, the line about money being an aphrodisiac surely must, no?

"So, is Brazil full of pros?

No. It's a big folder full of all kinds of women.

"If I go to Brazil am I going to be basically fucking girls who are pros?

I don't know. Are you?

"Who are fucking multiple guys a day for money? Probably who have been with hundreds of guys this year alone?

Yep..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2558714]Even though there are enough guys here who like to delude themselves into believing that they're getting laid for their boyish looks and stallion dicks.

To each their own.......[/QUOTE]So true. I've meant so many guys here in the States that try to bullshit about the Brazilian girl they picked up. You say you went for a week and just like that you picked up a girl. Good for you. You were monogamous for that week. Great. You didn't pay her any money. Hmm, but you bought her clothes and gifts. Oh, but that was your choice. Okay.

If you travel around the world, you see that economic disparity between men and women is a big driver of sexual relations whether it's completely transparent or not. My experience is that it's hard to hook-up with a middle class Brazilian girl. You likely need introductions. You likely need to be living in Brazil or have a clear reason to return often (business, friends, etc.)

I remember a situation where a friend actually showed me a photo of his Brazilian "nice girl" friend. He was adamant that she wasn't a pro. He met her on the beach. I showed him some photos of her on a predecessor site of ISG. He seemed genuinely pissed at me for contradicting his delusion.

I think another thing that should be mentioned about what you pay is that I never have a real problem with the price people pay assuming they do their research. Ignoring a quick trip that some here have mentioned where there is no real time to gauge the market (go wild if you must, IMO), you should always try exploring the different price points to see what fits best. I find that many guys search for GFE and that is not always a given with a higher price tag, and I think a lot of the veteran members have rightly made that point. But I am also no fan of garbage hunting; I think back on my days in Thailand and the infamous ACE building where many mongers swore by it, but I could never justify how horrible that place made me feel (I went with a friend and I ended up waiting outside). Sometimes you see mongers gleefully posting about getting off for $50 and when you look at the pictures of the creatures they paid, you feel traumatized.

Mongers also often forget how each person is different. I am still young / single and generally in shape so it can lead to a different situation than some of our older veterans here (who have assuredly enjoyed far more experiences than I have). I have never really been impressed with bargain hunting because I have been lucky enough to pull "good" talent just using Tinder / Whatsapp / etc. That has been comparable to low / mid-tier shops. I'm not trying to stroke my own ego, but just being realistic as to how age and social media savvy can give people different advantages and disadvantages. Additionally, a lot of my experiences are based around SE Asia so Brazil may be a totally different experience, which is the exciting part!

Anyway, I'm coming to Rio and SP for a month towards the end of the June and I always make it a point to try out the different options. See how I feel about the quality of girls, what they provide, and the overall atmosphere. My biggest flag is when it looks like the girl is not happy to be there which I'm sure most mongers are also sensitive to. So I appreciate all of the info that various people have posted. The Clinicas to Scandallo in SP, the prives and termas of Rio, and the online escorts, hopefully I can provide some good reports when the time comes.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2558879]I remember a situation where a friend actually showed me a photo of his Brazilian "nice girl" friend. He was adamant that she wasn't a pro. He met her on the beach. I showed him some photos of her on a predecessor site of ISG. He seemed genuinely pissed at me for contradicting his delusion.[/QUOTE]You did his dumb ass a favor! I hope he finally came to your senses and thanked you for it later.

Any sapien can go to Brazil who has a pocket full of Reis and foge to his heart's content, but it takes finesse to be able to chill comfortably with a brasileira not matter what her profession. 6.

[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2558900]I always make it a point to try out the different options.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you already have some mongering experience in RJ and SP. So I'm guessing you've had an account and TheDerilious is a secondary account? Or are you just new to ISG?

Either way, if you have some info for RJ / SP, care to share? I'll be there in early June for a couple weeks.

This is what I've got so far.

SP:
(world traveler's list) [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.564361890150447%2C-46.614193590780076&z=12[/URL].

RJ:
www.gparena.net/tds-areas.php?a=1
(World Traveler's list) www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=-22.95713439702401%2C-43.277909419849045&z=13&mid=1ojY266Fe5FV1Agvijro65Bt9xIz2TMwH
4 x4.

Terma 31. - lol I don't know if Vagabundo was trolling, but it looks like Terma 31 is a tranny shop? (www.facebook.com/pages/Club-31/154933171803559). Could be wrong as that FB page hasn't been updated in 3 years.

Club 116.

For Terma 31 and Club 116, I have the same expectations as when I go to Chicago and Tropicana in Tijuana. They're pretty close to the main event (Hong Kong). I drop in and look around to see if there's talent. If there is, great. If not, I just head over to 4 x4.

No, T31 is a tier 2 or trash darkside terma but very much hetero. There are girls and the clients are guys. It's written up in Bubba Boy's Guide.

Address off the top of my head is alcatra machado 31, two blocks down the street from hotel Atlántico tower on rua inhuama number 95 if memory serves, on the North or "darkside" of av presidente vargas.

Tijuana is warmed over refried beans mixed with horseshit.

Mexicans are the poor man's Brazilians. And I know Tijuana very well.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2558994]It sounds like you already have some mongering experience in RJ and SP. So I'm guessing you've had an account and TheDerilious is a secondary account? Or are you just new to ISG?

Either way, if you have some info for RJ / SP, care to share? I'll be there in early June for a couple weeks.

This is what I've got so far.

SP:

(my list) [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/EvUzgK5mipxiCSZG6[/URL].

(world traveler's list) [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU&ll=-23.564361890150447%2C-46.614193590780076&z=12[/URL]..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2558879]
If you travel around the world, you see that economic disparity between men and women is a big driver of sexual relations whether it's completely transparent or not. My experience is that it's hard to hook-up with a middle class Brazilian girl. You likely need introductions. You likely need to be living in Brazil or have a clear reason to return often (business, friends, etc.).
[/QUOTE]Exactly! And even when you manage to score, you're forgetting the jealousy. Once I took a non-pro to Buzios after a couple of dates and I couldn't wait till it was over. A couple of stray glances at other women and I was done for. The screaming, the crying, the arm-waving, my god!

No, not my cup of tea, thank you very much.

Danni Suzuki.

[URL]https://youtu.be/NqFunkQ4uMM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2559024]Exactly! And even when you manage to score, you're forgetting the jealousy. Once I took a non-pro to Buzios after a couple of dates and I couldn't wait till it was over. A couple of stray glances at other women and I was done for. The screaming, the crying, the arm-waving, my god!

No, not my cup of tea, thank you very much.

Danni Suzuki...[/QUOTE]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.

The mini relationship with a pro is optimal.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.

Even if one can find a fuck buddy with no strings attached, you're likely to get tired of that pussy after some time, then what?, back to looking for another one. Too much work for me.[/QUOTE]I can't echo these comments enough. They want you to pay indefinitely for everything and you can never have enough money. Even if the fun wanes the payment must continue. They have no qualms about seeking out the next source of payments if you fail to meet their payment expectations or simply stop paying. When they say they want a relationship that means they want someone to pay everything for them.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2559084]I am surprised at folks who want to date non-pros. Even if one is able to overcome the basic stuff, like language barrier, culture barrier, and others, you would not get much from the encounter. Most girls are looking for a permanent relationship, like marriage, with the man paying for everything. To me, that is not something I look forward to.[/QUOTE]You must know a different Brazil because what you describe is not the normal Brazilian chick that I know. The Brazilian chicks that I know pull their own weight and are not trying to be dependent on a man to pay for everything. Most will not go on trips with you if they can not pay their share.

Do you know how many chicks have come to see me in Rio or Sao Paulo from other cities in Brazil, or have come to see me in the States from Brazil? They have all paid their own way. Hell, the other day in Curitiba a chick paid for my hotel for 2 nights and wanted me to use her car while she was at work. Even a long time ago when I met a chick online that told me she worked in an office, she was paying for everything when we went out together. I did not find out she was actually a hooker until I saw her out in front of Help one night. They are not the freeloaders that you describe. That sounds more like some Dominican Republic shit.

"Quantos dias vai ficar them Curitiba? Posso te ajudar com hotel eu tenho uma vida difcil, alias esta pior com essa Pandemia, mas posso pagar hotel, mais do que isso ando terei condies, posso te emprestar o carro enquanto trabalho".

[QUOTE=TheCane;2558959]You did his dumb ass a favor! I hope he finally came to your senses and thanked you for it later.[/QUOTE]There are posters on this site who believe they're banging non-pros. They'd be hurt if they knew the truth.