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[QUOTE=Frannie;1675895]Historically it has always been men who have paid for female company and not the other way around. Your interpretation is that time spent in a bar is equivalent to allowing her to make a sales presentation, with no obligation to buy, so there should be no penalty for taking up her time. This assumes that providing female company and touching to lonely men has no intrinsic monetary value. At different times and in different societies this may vary. You say tomayto, I say tomahto.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpU-mcgBJxE[/URL][/QUOTE]Wrong Frannie. 1st off if you want my interpretation its best to ask for it. Because you usually are offbase. Since when did I suggest time spent in a bar is the same as allowing a chica to make a sales presentation? 1st off how did the female get to spend time with a dude? Did he invite her? Did she invite herself? You left out an important distinction by leaving that detail out. Which leads to the next part in your assessment.
You assume the dude took up her time simply because shes there or in his company?. How can you be sure the dude took up the womans time, especially in cases where the woman invited herself, and the dude didn't invite the woman? Is it your belief some dude is taking up some chicas time that sits down next to him uninvited? If so, I see it differently. If chica sits down next or near me and I talk to her, I don't owe her jack. She may start flirting, touching my leg all she wants, but I did NOT take up that chicas time. She took up her own time.
If anything, she very well may have cock blocked a dude from getting with other women by taking up his time. Now guess what? Who will most guys fault for that happening? The monger, not the chica. My point is, these females have to deal with their losses when they gamble or invest time with a dude. Especially uninvited. And guys shouldnt be quick to treat these women like helpless entitled children.
A side story. I have a buddy that was entertaining a chica at our table in Rumba. I observed her rubbing his crotch a lot. After a good while he stood up abruptly and told her she had to leave. The chica was rubbing his crotch with her right hand and trying to steal his money with her left hand out of a zippered back pocket. He stopped her at the point she had the pocket halfway unzipped. He didn't get overly hyped. He just told her to leave. She tried to play it off like he was supposedly annoyed about something else. Pulled out her Eye Dee claiming she is no mafioso. He didnt want to make scene about her trying to steal his money.
She spent a considerable amount of time sitting with him. Dude still owes a chica trying to steal his money for her time and not taking her? Even if that didn't go down like that. If he realized there was something about her that wasnt compatible with his interests, she's automatically owed money? There has to be a clear distinction to when it makes sense to offer some chica compensation from when it isnt necessary. As I said before, if I invite a chica to spend time with me, the outcome may be different. But theres no automatic payment, and by no means will I assume I took up some womans time if I didnt invite her, or I discern she will not provide the services I want.
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When it rains it pours
Yesterday around 1 PM the rain started to come down and it pretty much rained all night. Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds a rout the Strip. All here for Super Bowl weekend.
Tonight at 8 PM Rumbas was getting very crowded. It was like night and day compared to last Thursday night. Unfortunately it has started raining again. Live from Sosua!
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Perla de Sosua
Can anybody give me an update on Perla de Sosua?
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1675046]I see that all the time and I have discussed it here. Some feel that the chica is owed nothing unless and until a deal is struck, and have given me shit here for taking her side.
In one case a monger reported having 3 contacts over two or three days, before sending her away. He wondered why she was pissed and was "losing interest".
To me it's just bad manners, if I can use that expression in a mongering context, lack of consideration.
If the puta comes up uninvited and sits beside you, you owe her nothing, but if you invite her to join you, or ask her meet you later, you have, in her mind, set that meter ticking.
There's no rule that says you owe her anything, but don't complain if she goes away with "a bad attitude".
Bad attitude begets bad attitude, the putas get hard and everybody loses.[/QUOTE]Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight.
And then resorted to using straw man argument like "what if the girl sitting with you is pick-pocketing you"? Ridiculous. Why not say "what if she stabs you and you died. You have to give her some money out of your estate to pay for her time huh?
On top of it, he's totally oblivious that he was THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.
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[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1676197]Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight.
And then resorted to using straw man argument like "what if the girl sitting with you is pick-pocketing you"? Ridiculous. Why not say "what if she stabs you and you died. You have to give her some money out of your estate to pay for her time huh?
On top of it, he's totally oblivious that he was THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.[/QUOTE]I have always suspected that mongers who treat the chicas bad have sexual problems and deliberately try to give the chicas a bad attitude to mess it up for other mongers.
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[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1676197]Just bumping this post in its entirety because the person making the counter-argument can't keep his points straight. [/QUOTE]The smart thing to do is not to give such people a chance to soapbox, by NOT responding. That way, their soliloquy, long drawn as they are. For they love to hear themselves speak, would not last long.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1676004] Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the live report.
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Nagua
I remember reading on one of these forums about someone going for a boat ride in a lake / lagoon in Nagua. I looked for the post but cannot find. Would the posting person please paste a link here or send me the link via a private message? I may try the lake trip if I get to go next month.
Thanks in anticipation.
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[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1675925]Wrong Frannie. 1st off if you want my interpretation its best to ask for it. Because you usually are offbase. Since when did I suggest time spent in a bar is the same as allowing a chica to make a sales presentation? 1st off how did the female get to spend time with a dude? Did he invite her? Did she invite herself? You left out an important distinction by leaving that detail out. Which leads to the next part in your assessment.
You assume the dude took up her time simply because shes there or in his company?. How can you be sure the dude took up the womans time, especially in cases where the woman invited herself, and the dude didn't invite the woman? Is it your belief some dude is taking up some chicas time that sits down next to him uninvited? If so, I see it differently. If chica sits down next or near me and I talk to her, I don't owe her jack. She may start flirting, touching my leg all she wants, but I did NOT take up that chicas time. She took up her own time.
If anything, she very well may have cock blocked a dude from getting with other women by taking up his time. Now guess what? Who will most guys fault for that happening? The monger, not the chica. My point is, these females have to deal with their losses when they gamble or invest time with a dude. Especially uninvited...[/QUOTE]Your whole argument is that the chica is a business person or entrepreneur selling a service and that you are a potential customer. It is similar to how in the US a dentist or roofing contractor will advertise that a free checkup is available. Sure the free checkup is available, but if you start asking for a free checkup every week, you will soon find out that you are not welcome, because the real purpose of the free checkup is not that it is a free service, but that it is a sales pitch.
Anyway I agree with you that you don't owe a chica anything if she comes and plonks herself down uninvited in proximity to you and your friends in a bar. And certainly not if she is trying to pickpocket you. But if you are not interested, there are all kinds of ways to indicate to her that she might be better off pitching to another potential customer, so that if she continues to waste her time hanging around you, then that is at her own risk of time wasted.
However if she had spent considerable time dancing and flirting with you, allowing you to feel her up, and generally interacting in a more-or-less girlfriend kind of way with you, then I can see that she might be aggrieved and feel that she had already delivered a certain amount of service. That's all.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1676004]Yesterday around 1 PM the rain started to come down and it pretty much rained all night. Today around 2 PM some sunshine came out and the Chicas where pouring into town like crazy. Herds and herds of them where pounding the pavement and making the rounds a rout the Strip. All here for Super Bowl weekend.
Tonight at 8 PM Rumbas was getting very crowded. It was like night and day compared to last Thursday night. Unfortunately it has started raining again. Live from Sosua![/QUOTE]The rain didn't seem to bother this chica:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NFywQdeKSo[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1676223]I remember reading on one of these forums about someone going for a boat ride in a lake / lagoon in Nagua. I looked for the post but cannot find. Would the posting person please paste a link here or send me the link via a private message? I may try the lake trip if I get to go next month.
Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]There's a lagoon in Rio San Juan, I forget the name.
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[QUOTE=Frannie;1676245]The rain didn't seem to bother this chica:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NFywQdeKSo[/URL][/QUOTE]Well I'm not sure if I would want to see what's under the skirts of those two Chicas walking in the rain, however the music was good. Can you imagine that music being played in Rumbas. All the big booty Chicas would be doing the side step and guys would be dry humping them.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1675046]
In one case a monger reported having 3 contacts over two or three days, before sending her away. He wondered why she was pissed and was "losing interest".
[/QUOTE]"he wondered why she was pissed and was losing interest".
Nice touch. Your memory is failing you. But your fabrication of facts and details is excellent.
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[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1676197]THE monger who invited a chica for 3 interviews.[/QUOTE]Now is your issue poor reading comprehension or a bad memory too? Or both? What exactly does inviting a chica consist of in your mind? Last time I recalled, briefly bumping into chica out in public twice is not inviting a chica for an interview. Other than that, I see in your own special way you got the point. I don't care how you got it. Just that you got it. The haterade in this forum is understood. Carry on.
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1676220]The smart thing to do is not to give such people a chance to soapbox, by NOT responding. That way, their soliloquy, long drawn as they are. For they love to hear themselves speak, would not last long.[/QUOTE]Poor guy, haven't you been paying attention? Maybe you should just worry about yourself, instead of looking for comrades to share in ignorance. If you can't hang in a discussion that's your problem. You don't need no followers.