General Reports

[quote=phordphan]1. the time starts from the minute the desk guy hands you your towel. if you need extra time, the best time to ask is right then, and pay for more. normally, after the knock and your time is up, the chica can get by with a bit more time cleaning up. that is, *if* she's one who actually cleans up afterwards. [/quote]that's right. and sometimes i think they can't read the clock. when you pay, slip the desk guy a couple of bucks and say (with a smile): "no knock please. "

[quote]2. never, ever, pay up front. period. i don't care how hot she is. the girls all have "newbie" sensors, and they'll try to push their luck, just like a little kid. don't give in, don't allow upselling, be nice but don't take any shit. if she insists, walk. tell the desk guy she changed the deal and ask for a refund. you won't get one, but they'll tell you to bring up another chica and they won't charge you again. don't overtip. this is mexico, and tipping is a gringo thing. if it's really, really good, $5 extra is fine. don't forget $1 for the jizz boy. [/quote]the one golden rule that never gets followed. the girl usually asks up front because she's frightened she won't get paid, or is lining you up for a short session. sometimes it's all legit but it's always hard to tell.

i used to say: "i don't pay up front, but i'll put the money here ont he nightstand, take it when we are finished please. put it on your side of the bed. letting her see the money shows her that you have the money. keeping it on your side of the bed is a signal that it is still under your control until the session ends.

most girls wait until you are undressed before asking for the money, thinking there's not much you're going to do while naked, so get it out of the way before you undress in case you (or she) decides to walk.

[quote]3. the girls all have id. but, just stick with those who look over 21 and you'll be fine. [/quote]the girl can't work unless she provides the club with id and a health card. the club can be shut down if the cops catch **** girls and it would never happen at adelitas, so relax. if she's on the floor, she's good to go.

[quote]4. the chicas are all supposed to have health cards while working. ask. they may show it to you. maybe they'll cover up their real names. the cards will have a sticker on them showing the "expiration" date. if you're checking, make sure the date's current. [/quote]the girls used to keep their cards on file in the office rather than on their person. that might have changed given the recent crack-downs (pun intended) on health cards.

she might balk at showing you the card because it will have her photo and real name on it. the photos are usually terrible and she might not want to reveal her real name.

remember: she can't work at ab without a health card, and ab strictly enforces the rules on the girls. just because she has a health card doesn't mean she's healthy today. she was healthy when she got the samples taken and when they got tested. that was a onth or so ago. so insist on the condom, and dine at your own risk.

[quote]5. pesos are better *if* you negotiate and know your prices. you'll probably come out a little bit ahead. if this is your first time, it may just be easier to work in dollars. exchange in mexico. the one immediately across the border is easiest, but doesn't have great rates. the ones near the zona, on constitucion, i understand have better rates, but i don't know personally. the one on articulo 123 near revu is really bad. [/quote]the girls at ab are wise to the currency fluctuations. they are not, however, the sharpest knives in the drawers. they might insist on dollars, but try pesos and see what happens.

rates do vary from one place to another. if you can hit a bank before closing you'll get the best rate. they are all within several pesos of each other and it's a good spread right now anyway.

good post phord, great answers.

country john

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So the girls are at AB are all 21 or over LOL. I thought it was 18. Doesn't really matter anyways most of them are older then me hahha.

[QUOTE=Ramprats]Hi guys,

I will be flying into SAN then trolley down to the border.

Can anyone tell me how this works and now long does it take.

Or is there a better way?[/QUOTE]I don't know why no one has mentioned it but there is a shuttle called the airport flyer #992 that will take you to the trolley station. The cost of the shuttle will count towards the fare you pay to go to the border.

[QUOTE=Country John]
The girls at AB are wise to the currency fluctuations. They are not, however, the sharpest knives in the drawers. They might insist on dollars, but try pesos and see what happens.

Rates do vary from one place to another. If you can hit a bank before closing you'll get the best rate. They are all within several pesos of each other and it's a good spread right now anyway.
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Some of the chicas in AB are wise to the currency difference. I have been asked for 750 and 800 pesos. The latter would have cost me 51 cents at the conversion rate I got compared to $60. Many of the chicas will go for 600, though. Just ask.

One of my amigos went to a bank in TJ (I don't know which one) and discovered that the rate there was worse than the cambios in the zona. The one on the AB side of the street on the next block down (towards La Tropa) usually has the best rates but not significantly better than the one at the end of the alley near the police ministation.

I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.

[QUOTE=Tjmee]I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.[/QUOTE]

The object is to pay them, in pesos, whatever the rate, in pesos, was before the currency drop.

In other words, when the peso was 10:1, if you paid $50 you could also have paid 500 pesos. Now, if you pay 500 pesos, you get a much better deal, in dollars, due to the currency fluctuation.

Many of the girls think in pesos, so it may be easier to negotiate in pesos. Also, the girls have to pay for a lot of their expenses in pesos. So, they have to change their dollars to pesos, thus taking a hit on the conversion. So, it can be slightly advantageous for the girl to receive pesos in the first place.

[QUOTE=Tjmee]I understand that when you change dollars into pesos when the dollar is high you get more pesos. But if you're paying the chick the same thing you were paying before just in pesos whats the difference.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's why the sharper AB girls are asking for the same. But that doesn't mean we have to pay it. Many will take 600pesos instead of 60 dollars and that is where you get the savings.

[QUOTE=Country John]
[QUOTE=Phordphan]
2. Never, ever, pay up front. Period. I don't care how hot she is. The girls all have "newbie" sensors, and they'll try to push their luck, just like a little kid. Don't give in, don't allow upselling, be nice but don't take any shit. If she insists, walk. Tell the desk guy she changed the deal and ask for a refund. You won't get one, but they'll tell you to bring up another chica and they won't charge you again. Don't overtip. This is Mexico, and tipping is a gringo thing. If it's really, really good, $5 extra is fine. Don't forget $1 for the jizz boy.
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The one golden rule that never gets followed. The girl usually asks up front because she's frightened she won't get paid, or is lining you up for a short session. Sometimes it's all legit but it's always hard to tell.

I used to say: "I don't pay up front, but I'll put the money here ont he nightstand, take it when we are finished please. Put it on YOUR side of the bed. Letting her see the money shows her that you have the money. Keeping it on your side of the bed is a signal that it is still under your control until the session ends.

Most girls wait until you are undressed before asking for the money, thinking there's not much you're going to do while naked, so get it out of the way BEFORE you undress in case you (or she) decides to walk.
Good post phord, great answers.

Country John

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This is something I've mentioned before, that I don't agree to the pay afterwards thing. I've paid up front and had good sessions. And I've also paid afterwards and had bad sessions. It is more likely that the girl will try to flee or finish faster if you pay her first. But that is not always the case. This is why I preffer to go with my regular chicas. They don't ever ask for money up front. But even if they did I would gladly pay them up front cause I already know they will provide a great session. I can understand why some girls insist to be paid up front. Some have been ripped off in the past and just feel safer this way. It's really up to you. But I disagree with Fjordfan that you should "never" pay up front. One girl at the bar who I just met said she turned some guy away because he insisted in paying afterwards. Her response was "hell no!" and walked out on him. I went with her, paid her up front and had a really nice GFE session.

[QUOTE=Efjayel]This is something I've mentioned before, that I don't agree to the pay afterwards thing. I've paid up front and had good sessions. And I've also paid afterwards and had bad sessions. It is more likely that the girl will try to flee or finish faster if you pay her first. But that is not always the case. This is why I preffer to go with my regular chicas. They don't ever ask for money up front. But even if they did I would gladly pay them up front cause I already know they will provide a great session. I can understand why some girls insist to be paid up front. Some have been ripped off in the past and just feel safer this way. It's really up to you. But I disagree with Fjordfan that you should "never" pay up front. One girl at the bar who I just met said she turned some guy away because he insisted in paying afterwards. Her response was "hell no!" and walked out on him. I went with her, paid her up front and had a really nice GFE session.[/QUOTE]

Everyone's mileage varies. But it seems to me that far more stories abound about guys paying up front and getting bad service, than the opposite.

The question appeared to be from a relative newbie. Therefore, the "never" advice. I still think it's a good rule of thumb. With more experience you can alter the rules. But, IHMO, generally speaking, you're setting yourself up for a bad session if you pay up front. You've lost what little control of the situation you may have had.

Also, I don't know anybody who's tried to rip off a girl. You've got to be a total scumbag to try such a thing. But, it seems to me that if you did, in TJ, you could get into a world of hurt. I would think you'd get to know, in a bad way, several cum boys, or bouncers, or cops, or all of the above. But I don't know.

All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.

How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Imahustlababy]All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.

How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?

Cheers![/QUOTE]With my limited Spanish ,I rely on a lot on hand signals and expressions.

Try just shaking your finger "no" and then act like you are knocking in a humble way with a smile and a por favor.

They will understand your request.

[QUOTE=Imahustlababy]All, thanks for your answers and advice. How about paying half upfront and half afterwards? I guess the girls are not gonna be too enticed by the tip like in the states, b/c the tips in Tijuana are small. And I'd rather keep the costs reasonable.

How do you say "No knock" in Spanish, "no golpe, por favor"? I got the impression not everyone speaks English in the clubs. Is this right?

Cheers![/QUOTE]

You'll be fine just paying all at the end.

Try something like "favor, no tocar."

English is surprising limited, considering how close TJ is the the states. But, like any other foreign country, the more a girl speaks English, the longer she's been in the business and the higher the mileage.

"favor, no tocar"

Translates to "please don't knock" as in don't knock at all. Doubt they will go for that. You should instead say, "No tocar than rapido." Which means, don't let the knock come so quickly.

The terminals are serviced every 15 minutes or so (depends on day and time of day-- schedule well posted at bus stops) by #922. You use to be able to buy a $2. 50 ticket that transferred to trolley all the way to San Yasidro, but now you need to buy a $5. 00 "day pass" Tell the driver you want to go to the trolley and he/she will make sure you get off at the AMERICAN PLAZA. Cross the street to the trolley station--(just hold on to the day pass in case you get checked by transit police) and wait for the Blue line south to San Yasidro. They also come about every 15 minutes and usually run very much on the posted schedule.

Take the trolley to the end of the line and cross over the freeway by taking the winding stairs to the entrance gates to Mexico on the west side of the freeway.

This whole area is safe (IMHO) with border guards wandering and cameras, but you do need to keep your wits about you. It is kind of a hassle/walk climbing the ramp/crossing over the freeway and back down. There is a easier way-- many locals and frequent crossers do this:

At IRIS Station (station before last stop to border) get off and take the bus to the border that will drop you off right in front of the gate to mexico, thus avoiding hoof crossing over the freeway. I cannot remember what route number it is, but ask one of the drivers waiting at the station-- this is a major bus/transfer point and very safe and lighted. Your day pass will cover you for this leg as well..-

Coming back- just buy a day pass for $5 coming out the customs door, hop on the trolley and get off at American Plaza stop. Walk to bus stop in front of "Starbucks" and wait for the #922 to airport- about every 15minutes.

I do this all the time and it usually takes me about 1. 5 hours to get from airport to Zona and once through customs about 1. 25 hours to airport. The big variable coming back is time through customs which varies greatly on time of day and day. I usually cross Sunday afternoons which during normal season takes about one hour to cross, but lines can be huge during XMAS.

Late night trolleys stop around midnight I think? Or they for sure drop in frequency. This might not be a safe time to be traveling around anyway. I usually like to be crossing the border before 9pm.

Hope this info helpful.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]You'll be fine just paying all at the end.

Try something like "favor, no tocar."[/QUOTE]It's por favor no tocues la puerta.