FKK Artemis - Berlin

Thanks for reporting about your infection. It takes guts to tell this things on the forum, I mean about your tests and shit like that. I sure hope you will recover quickly.

Have you notified the club in any way?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Akibono;1129733]Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body.[/QUOTE]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much. Also think that most mongers could be better at this.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129985]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much. Also think that most mongers could be better at this.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Use the paper towels that they have in each room.

[QUOTE=Doonan; 1129869]OK. Perhaps I can help you with your vicarious living.

Yesterday, I found my way to Artemis. I have never been to an FKK, in fact, I had never heard of them until about two or three months ago.

I arrived at the club at 17:00. I have read a lot about them, and I have seen the posts from many members of this site, but I have to tell you that nothing prepared me for what I saw. First of all, the building looks like a hotel. It's absolutely huge. I went in, paid my entrance fee and was surprised and (happily) shocked to see naked women in the locker area. They were everything that any man could want. I showered and went to the bar, ordering a drink. The eye candy factor alone is worth the entrance fee. I would happily have paid 80 Euro to sit at the bar for a few hours, simply watching the naked women, not a single one of which was below a 7.

10 years of mongering has taught me that I connect well and have much better sessions with the more experienced ladies. Scanning the room, I saw a girl of about 30, sitting on a couch behind the bar. (One point to make to newbies here. Virtually ANY eye contact with one of the women will bring her to you. If you want to avoid fending off the advances of ladies you don't fancy, look away quickly once eye contact is made.) Anywho, I made eye contact with Joy, the lady on the couch. She came to me at the bar, and we chatted for a bit. She has a great smile-another good omen as far as I'm concerned. The "Paris Hilton face" on some of the hotter younger women is a sign of someone who may well be distant during your session. Joy was not in any way high-pressure, and I told her that I had only just arrived and was going to sit and have a drink. She smiled and returned to her couch. After some time, I decided to join her. We chatted for a bit, and she snuggled up to me, giving me some kisses. Well, my plan to enjoy the eye candy went straight into the toilet at that point, and I chose a one hour session with Joy, who is from Lithuania. We went to the room, and proceeded to have an extremely enjoyable time. After ten years, I can usually sense if there is going to be a vibe within the first five minutes. I sensed that with Joy in the first 15 seconds. What progessed from there was amazing. She gave me a fantastic OWO BJ. I went down on her for probably half of my session. When she reaches orgasm, it's amazing. You can sense it coming, and then there is one loud yell. We had three postions, and I finished doggy style. There were only two things that were off limits. No fingers in the holy of holies, and no anal. The former was the only downside for me, but the latter doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. After I finished, I was given a very nice massage, and she asked me if I wanted to go again. When I was 25 or 30, I would have taken her up on this, but at 44, I decided against it as I knew I would want to sample the other goodies. There is a picture of Joy on the Artemis website. Body is amazing. Small breasts, small build, but extremely fit with very good muscle tone. As I mentioned, we gelled quite well, and had a very nice conversation in addition to the session.

Looks-8,

Performance-10

After this session, I had another couple of drinks, then went to the restaurant and had a very nice dinner. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food there. Back to the bar and fended off the approaches of a couple of women. Most of the ladies are not high pressure, but a couple of them are a bit more than others. However, nothing is done in too much of a pushy way. I scheduled a hamam with Farid. I have never had a hamam, or heard of one for that matter, and I think I might have lost two kilos in loose skin. I relaxed in the bar area downstairs and Joy came looking for me to say goodbye, as she was leaving. She came over, sat down and we chatted for a bit more. She kept saying,"I like you", which was a nice touch. In my mongering career, there are perhaps 8-10 ladies that I wish I would have met in circumstances other than a client / provider role. I am officially adding Joy to that list. We really clicked, and she's one of the type of people that I could fall in love with, which I don't normally do.

Went into the kindo for a bit and was joined by a short-haired Bulgarian girl. She sat down, and despite what I have read, I allowed her to start blowing me in the kino. I did not want to session with her, as I was still in recovery mode, but it's difficult to say no to a blowjob. (I cannot remember her name, but she's a tall dark-haired girl, who is probably in her late 20s. Not a stunner, but not unnattractive either.) We took a room next to the kino for a half-hour session. She was a bit of an actress, and I didn't really bond with her very well. She did put in a lot of effort to get and keep me hard, but again, it just wasn't happening for me. . . Although I did eventually manage to get off during sex.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 6 (only because of the lack of connection)

Back to the bar for some coffee and a cigarette. By this time, the night shift was there. If I had been blown away when I entered Artemis, I was doubly blown away at this point. In all my wildest dreams, I have never imagined a room with so many incredibly beautiful women with little or no clothing. There was one older lady (very long straight blonde hair and very large bulbous fake tits) that I quite fancied, but there were so many people there by that point, and I didn't want to approach her. Two other ladies that did approach me, but I declined looked yummy as well. One was Lennie, and another was a 22 year old from Bulgaria or Romania with mid-length auburn hair, perhaps her name was Jessie? Does anyone have experience with either of these two? Jessie was perhaps the most high-pressure of the ladies that I met during my 8 hour visit. She was very nice, but it was difficult for her to accept "no". When I said that I was still recovering, and that I wasn't ready to go with anyone else for an hour, she said that she would sit there until I was ready, a bit of an uncomfortable situation. I eventually excused myself, and when I returned to the bar area, she was gone.

I had noticed a dark-haired girl with a beautiful smile. Fortunately, she came and sat next to me at the crowded bar. I eventually selected a one-hour session with her. Her name is Vivian. . . I think. She's not skinny, but has just the right amount of curves. 26 years old, with a very well done boob job. We had a very nice session. Her blowjob skills are very, very good. She kept asking me to come in her mouth for an extra 50, which I respectfully declined-I personally don't care where my seed goes after it exits my body, so 50 is an additional amount that I would prefer to keep in my wallet. Anal was also available. We had a pretty good connection, and the sex mirrored that. I went down on her, and although it took a while, she did reach orgasm. She would not permit me to put my fingers inside of her, joking that she has things inside of her all the time, and that she preferred to have the outside stimulated orally. It was difficult to not come with her tremdous oral skills, but I held off, and we had sex with her on top, doggy, and me on top. After the session, she offered to try to get me off again, but I was completely spent. I haven't had sex three times in one day in a long, long time. She did however, give me a tremendous massage.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 9.

All in all, a phenomenal day at Artemis. I shall return. [/QUOTE]Nice report. Thanks.

I recognised your sense of wonder at all those fabulous bodies around you. Its a great thrill the first time you walk into an FKK club, but one that fades after a few visits unfortunately. It's a bit like certain hard drugs. You can, for example, never replicate the first high you get when you freebase cocaine for the first time, but many people ruin their lives trying to get there just once more. Many of us have spent fortunes 'chasing' that first 'hit' you get when you shuffle into Artemis on your first visit, but it's never quite the same again. I'm pleased you got the full benefit from losing your own 'Artemis virginity'.

I reckon you also struck gold with your first choice of girl. Joy is a real firecracker if she likes you. I've been with her ten times or so and every session has been a stormer for both of us. She gets really horny, and as you observed, she's a 'screamer' when she comes.

Shame U-turned down Jessie. Another girl I know well. She's pushy and annoying in the lounge sometimes, but upstairs she does the business and is quite a sweet girl under the tough business-like exterior. Not as intimate as Joy, but even more skilled in the bedroom.

Pleased you enjoyed your visit. Thanks for reporting.

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129985]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much.[/QUOTE]Norjan, I'm looking forward to read your first report. BTW, will you walk around in Artemis with printed ISG-posts under your arm and have an examination corner?

[QUOTE=Bluat;1129998]Use the paper towels that they have in each room.[/QUOTE]You mean that one should wrap paper around the condom before taking it off?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1130047]Norjan, I'm looking forward to read your first report. BTW, will you walk around in Artemis with printed ISG-posts under your arm and have an examination corner?[/QUOTE]You mean my first report after this latest STD issue came up?

I have done a couple of reports of my earlier visits, read them and you will find out how I act.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Akibono; 1129733]A significant percentage of prostitutes are immune from some STDs. This is probably due to being exposed to minute quantites of infectious agents for a long time. Being constantly challenged, can boost your immune system if you are healthy.

Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure of the source for some of this stuff. One of the problems is (which can be checked with reliable sources) that some people get the bug (s) but don't get symptoms, thereby becoming reservoirs of infection for other people. Also, some girls don't seem to realise that throats can be infected with STDs as well and may not get this part of their body screened at checkup time.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129983]Thanks for reporting about your infection. It takes guts to tell this things on the forum, I mean about your tests and shit like that. I sure hope you will recover quickly.

Have you notified the club in any way?

Norjan[/QUOTE]I didn't notify last time and I'm not notifying this time. What good would it do? I still don't know what exactly I have and I don't know which girl is.

The tests I did were done to research various different bacterias (for the different STDs). I just wish they find something so I can move on. In the meanwhile they gave me the same antibiotics they gave me 4 years ago.

In any case don't be so concerned with this. If you want to go to Artemis and fuck prostitutes, then go, I'm convinced now that at any given time the % of one girl infected is quite high either at Artemis or any other big FKK.

If instead you don't feel like taking the chance, then the only choice is to give up mongering, find a "good" girl, have only sex with her so the STD risk is hopefully 0.

When I'm cured I will be back to mongering, not probably at Artemis though (bad luck place for me I guess) but I visit some cities in Europe for work during the year and I will concentrate there, even though there will be not the FKK feeling of naked girls all around you.

Buck

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1130155]You mean my first report after this latest STD issue came up?

I have done a couple of reports of my earlier visits, read them and you will find out how I act. [/QUOTE]I've read them. You are superstrange! How could you ask the asian guy if he has the flu? WTF? If he see some red spots on your chest, he should ask you if you recently got infected with HIV? Did you even present yourself by name before you asked him? Or you just asked him out of the blue??

Then we all could read about how you brought your big dick and the 1500 euros to the club. Very funny. And then, you pay a girl 150 (!!!) euros for 10 (or was it 20?) minutes of action in the room? I guess the regulars don't like that. Now we all know were the upsellig, sharkattitude, hustle and begging for tip comes from.

Last time I were at Artemis I got a titjob and finnished all over my girls massive boobs, without paying extra. She just told me that if I hit her face that is 50 extra so I hold my hand over my friend so i would not do that.

I'm not saying that no one should giv a tip if he gets a super treatment, but your story were just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1130229]I've read them. You are superstrange! How could you ask the asian guy if he has the flu? WTF? If he see some red spots on your chest, he should ask you if you recently got infected with HIV? Did you even present yourself by name before you asked him? Or you just asked him out of the blue?

Then we all could read about how you brought your big dick and the 1500 euros to the club. Very funny. And then, you pay a girl 150 (!) euros for 10 (or was it 20?) minutes of action in the room? I guess the regulars don't like that. Now we all know were the upsellig, sharkattitude, hustle and begging for tip comes from.

Last time I were at Artemis I got a titjob and finnished all over my girls massive boobs, without paying extra. She just told me that if I hit her face that is 50 extra so I hold my hand over my friend so I would not do that.

I'm not saying that no one should giv a tip if he gets a super treatment, but your story were just ridiculous. [/QUOTE]Why shouldn't I ask him, whats the big deal? I asked him because he acted strange and because he were asian. I've been to Beijing once a couple of years ago and all asians were running around with masks because the were afraid of the bird flu.

I simply asked him "This is your first time at Artemis, huh? And he said "yes". You don't have the bird flu do you? And he just shook his head. The guy pretended he could'nt speak English so the conversation was over before it started. OK, maybe I should have presented my self but I just wanted to know if he was carrying the virus or not. End of the asian guy story.

Yes I brougth a lot of money to the club, but you know what, I only have been to the club twice in one year, so I guess most members here spend a lot more than I do. There is also another reason that I bring a lot of money. I split it to different places in my clothes so if I get robbed, hopefully the robbers will be satisfied with what's in my pocket and then I can continue to Artemis anyway. Thats the main reason.

And about tipping. Jasmine is the only girl I have ever actually tipped and that was just because she was so beautiful and had amazing tits and that I only had 50-Euro bills. So you think that is why girls are sharky, upselling and tip beggars, because of my one time tipping with one girl?

And by the way, it was about 15 minutes but I don't count. Maybe you do. Also I don't ejaculate on my own hand when there is a beautiful girl in bed in front of me. I understand that you do that. Maybe you were hoping for a discount?

Norjan

Gentlemen-need I remind you that the purpose of this thread is to report and comment on the comings (cummings?) and goings of the ladies of Artemis, your experiences and practical information regarding one's visits. Off course we get off topic from time to time. Also I expect a certain amount of off topic banter and fun. But lately it seem the thread has veered way off course. All we seem to do is spend the time discussing an isolated incident of a member who may or may not have contracted a minor STD at the club.

So who am I to say that the thread has become irrelevant to the point of becoming boring. But this is my feeling. If you really feel the need to discuss endlessly the possibility of contracting an STD, might I suggest opening a new thread on STD and FKK visits. Then we could leave the Artemis thread to its' intended purpose.

And Norjan-as you know I enjoy you being here. I even made you MIA on my blog not long ago. Sometimes though I am not sure. Sometimes I suspect you of trolling the forum. Can anyone really be so out of touch with the reality of human intercourse that they would not know that arbitrarily asking an Asian person if they have Bird flu is. Well. Sort of insulting and verging on racist?

I rest my case.

AM

Yes indeed. For those who would like to have further discussion on Health aspects in FKK's just start a new topic only related to Health issues. No problem with such a discussion and / or topic but that does not belong in a Club Topic.

Let us stop this discussion in the Artemis general topic.

B30

And seconded! All in favor. . . AY!

I'm sorry I ever mentioned the asian guest incident, I should have kept it to myself. People seem to get upset about it and I honestly don't think it is a big deal. He did'nt seem to think so either. The guy went upstairs with stunners a couple of times and probably had the time of his life, I even think he went with Jasmine.

Let's hope he did and that being asked about the bird flu by a european guest in a german brothel won't be a trauma in his future life. If he had asked me about the swine flu, it hadn't bothered me at all. I won't mention anything about my communication with other guests in my future reports that can be taken for trolling, racism etc. You're probably right, it don't belong in the forum. Again I'm sorry I even mentioned it. End of discussion.

Norjan