Montreal

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2152441]Everyone is being too negative, and Monger718 is probably overanalyzing.

I am going to do a very positive post for my 1,000th ISG post.

But you need to let everyone know what your ideal is. I just gave you two names from XO based on my ideal. Darla of Wildtimes is obviously another. But you may have completely different tastes than I do.

And a price range you want to pay is desirable too. I like some special services, so ladies like Sonia, Hannah, Bianca and Rose of the Unicorns & Mikes Mansion particularly appeal to me, even with upsells for special services. But not everyone is looking for the same things.

Personally, I trend toward agencies in Montreal because the ladies are a bit younger and usually a bit slimmer than the independents in Montreal. And the agency ladies are usually a little bit less expensive.[/QUOTE]My God Monger, you've been busy. Did Montreal start an FKK? That is quite a run. Does James have Chelsea back? I love her body. Her friend Bianca is at Vogue now with new fun bags! I want to see Amanda too. Sounds like a great trip.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2152855]My God Monger, you've been busy. Did Montreal start an FKK? That is quite a run. Does James have Chelsea back? I love her body. Her friend Bianca is at Vogue now with new fun bags! I want to see Amanda too. Sounds like a great trip.[/QUOTE]No, no, no.

You either read my post too quickly.

I did what I often do, I copied a long trip post from the local board to give our new reader an example of what a poster (I believe it was ss3) experienced during a 12 day trip.

On that list, I have only seen Chelsea of Euphoria, who was certainly hot but said something during the session that irritated me. So I did not rate Chelsea quite as highly as you did.

The list included one XO lady (Amanda, I believe) who was on Monger718's list and was reviewed very highly by ss3, and he mentioned Meghan quite favorably, who I have wanted to see ever since someone said she looked like Elisha Cuthbert. Although later posts said she looks more like Paris Jackson, or whatever the name of Michael Jackson's white daughter is.

We are trying to critique Monger 718's list, and suggest additions.

So we have Scarlett, Amanda and Meghan from XO that are very, very highly recommended from the XO list (plus my Meghan addition).

I added Darla of Wildtimes, of course. If he likes some kink along with spectacular sex, he should take a real look at Hannah and Sonia of the Unicorns if he is okay with paying a little bit more. Hungry speaks quite highly of Hannah, if I remember correctly. If anal is desired, along with the ability of a lady to suck a bowling ball through a garden hose, Bianca of Mike's Mansion is a great choice, as well as April Rose of Mike's Mansion.

I will leave the critiquing and additions to the Euphoria and Vogue list to you, Smuler and WyattEarp. I believe that Hungry is a big Euphoria fan, also.

[QUOTE=Monger718;2152705]Smuker and WyattEarp if it is not a hassle I would love to hear what you have to say about euphoria and VOG. Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea, but it has been awhile since I've been Montreal. I've actually been following the scene for several months in anticipation of another trip.

When I travel to countries where there is a "meet & greet" scene whether that be a nightclub or a brothel concept, I find it easy to find a girl. A pretty face and a good personality can make up for a lot of things. With the Montreal scene where you generally don't see a face, I find that I am fussy. I start to write-off girls who have large tattoos, piercings, smoke and have unnatural hair color. I also generally prefer natural full b or c breasts who are not too skinny. Now that might rule out over half the MTL girls give or take, but there are so many it's not a big deal.

That's why it's a good idea for posters who ask for recommendations to strongly specify their preferences. It will help narrow down the list immensely.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2152743]I like a girl I can talk to a little bit, so the lack of English would be a concern to me.[/QUOTE]Does uhmmmumumum, slurp, slurp count?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2153011]Does uhmmmumumum, slurp, slurp count?[/QUOTE]I made that comment because her first reviewer said she liked to talk and thought that she might feel uncomfortable with an English-only speaker.

Well, I took a shot at quickly glancing through the reviews of the Euphoria ladies on Monger718's list.

Based on thread lengths, positive comments from guys I trust, and ignoring shills and guys with few posts, I think that Victoria Mini, Sacha, Alessandra and Kendall would be my top choices from that list. They all get consistent, outstanding reviews, with Victoria Mini and Kendall having the most reviews. Kendall has a big fan base, particularly from guys who like large breasts. She does not appear to be on the schedule as often as other girls, so I dropped her to fourth. Based on my personal preferences after reading the reviews, Victoria Mini would be my top choice.

Heaven, Mila, and Jessica also have many excellent reviews, but at least some iffy reviews. Jessica doesn't like digits or heavier breast play. Mila doesn't speak a lot of English and is laid back. So even though Miila is described as beautiful, a non-French speaker might get bored. Heaven has some great reviews but has a few lousy ones and changes agencies a lot, so there is a YMMV factor.

I didn't find Mellissa's reviews to be quite as favorable as the reviews of other ladies.

I couldn't find enough information about Adrianna, Jade, Dahlia or New Megan to formulate an opinion.

These are of course overridden if Smuler or Hungry gave any personal experience with any of them.

I've been meaning to visit and check out the scene again but have been having a lot of fun exploring the comparatively much cheaper and more social Tijuana scene at Hong Kong. Recently had a nice trip in Thailand as well which got rid of my fiendish desires for Asian woman and now I'm thinking of making my next trip either a return to Germany for all the European womn, or just doing Montreal because I have a list of people I've had great experiences with and I love the cuisine, locale, and the girls are all much more pleasant than jaded FKK.

Been checking out the online postings and vog seems incredibly on point, mikes mansion seems good too along with the usual suspects though I'm thinking of just doing vog or mikes since euphoria's girls are nice but don't seem amazing to me and the xo lineup has never been a huge thing for me.

Has the scene still been relatively good? I know there was some drama with euphoria briefly shutting down but it doesn't seem to have hurt the talent pool much from what I can see.

While I am at it, let's just clear Monger718's Vogue list, too.

I may have missed the boat by never having booked anyone from the Vogue agency. Their reviews are excellent, including from guys I know we can trust because they are experienced reviewers and / or friends of Smuler.

Carley, Laura and Casey get just spectacular reviews with no restrictions, and all are described as beautiful. Casey at least once had a nose ring, but I am not sure if she still does. There were just no complaints or bad reviews of any of the three, and they have long review threads.

Alexandra and Katrina also have very good reviews. Alexandra has a no digits restriction, and interestingly an allergic to latex so she supplies some nonlatex condoms. That wouldn't bother me since my favorite condoms are nonlatex, but one reviewer didn't like the condoms she supplied. I presume she is okay with a customer bringing his own nonlatex condoms, but the reviews did not indicate that, one way or the other.

Katrina has only one review, so it is hard to judge. It was a very good review, but it indicates that she is not a spinner, and I got the feeling from the review that she might be more "cute" than beautiful.

Thank you gentlemen for all your feedback. This is amazing and I feel like you can't get a blunt review on the green board. Any more info or advice on those three agencies would be greatly appreciated since I'm doing all the research for my group of 3 . Now I have a questions about The New 2214 massage parlor. I talked to Alex and he told me it's 220 for the hour everything included. Now what does that mean exactly? Obviously the massage. But then what? HJ? BJ? BBBJ? Now is this the best massage parlor in Montreal? If there is a better one please let me know. Thank you in advance gentlemen, used to places like Hong Kong (Mexico) , or Artemis (Germany) that doesn't really need this much research. So this is all priceless info.

[QUOTE=Monger718;2153229]Thank you gentlemen for all your feedback. This is amazing and I feel like you can't get a blunt review on the green board. Any more info or advice on those three agencies would be greatly appreciated since I'm doing all the research for my group of 3 . Now I have a questions about The New 2214 massage parlor. I talked to Alex and he told me it's 220 for the hour everything included. Now what does that mean exactly? Obviously the massage. But then what? HJ? BJ? BBBJ? Now is this the best massage parlor in Montreal? If there is a better one please let me know. Thank you in advance gentlemen, used to places like Hong Kong (Mexico) , or Artemis (Germany) that doesn't really need this much research. So this is all priceless info.[/QUOTE]Monger714 and Sedition,

The Montreal scene has not deteriorated at all in the last few months, but there is always movement of ladies from one agency to another agency, which causes some to improve greatly. At the end of the day, the agencies work for the girls, not the other way around. So a person just has to trust the reviews from the honest reviewers to know which agencies are the best at the moment. I was surprised when I read the recent Vogue reviews of just how good the ladies at that agency are.

But in general, the Montreal scene is excellent. Almost all the agency ladies are 18-29 with athletic bodies. And GFE is standard. Every lady I looked up for Monger714 offers BBBJ and multiples in the hour. GFE is simply expected in Montreal, and girls that don't practice it just don't make it and just don't get good reviews. There is a situation I am watching for intellectual enjoyment. The agency (Wildtimes) where my favorite Darla works hired a Chilean lady named Isabella who advertised only CBJs, but at least tried to throw in no-upsell anal to make up for it. Her first review was mediocre due to the CBJ, so now she advertises full GFE (which normally means BBBJ), but anal is now a $50 upcharge. Not only is this an example of how the high service level in Montreal guarantees good service through competition and reviews, but it is important to me because I genuinely believe that Montreal is the best place for this activity in North America, but that Chile is the absolute worst place for it in South America. Not only do I think that Isabella's review scores will improve now that she is full GFE, but perhaps she will return to Chile for a trip and actually teach Chilean girls how to fuck. It would be Montreal's greatest gift to the hemisphere.

Sorry I digressed, but my point was that a person can easily choose from among at least 75-100 ladies in Montreal on a given day or night who will provide excellent service. Monger714 now has three names from XO and three from Vogue who are truly top-notch, and four from Euphoria who just are as good, or just a tiny notch below those six from Vogue and XO, based on the recent reviews. These ten ladies are all 8. 5-10 ladies in my book. And that is just from the three agencies and the names of selected ladies from those agencies he submitted. If you add in other agencies, it is impossible not to find great quality on any given day or night.

You won't get detailed reviews of massage parlours on the local board. The new law just makes it too dangerous in the opinion of the owners of the local site. Personally, I think you will be more pleased with the escort scene than the massage parlor scene, and don't forget that many escort agencies offer incall.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2153064]Carley, Laura and Casey get just spectacular reviews with no restrictions, and all are described as beautiful. Casey at least once had a nose ring, but I am not sure if she still does. There were just no complaints or bad reviews of any of the three, and they have long review threads.[/QUOTE]Casey is gorgeous. She is one of 2 other agency girls who are now pulling in a much deserved $250 rate. Facially she reminds me of Alexandra Daddario (google her).

But most negatives are either self-censored or mod-censored on the local board. Flaws are minor but exist: has a nose ring, has braces (clear kind), slightly thicker legs. Slightly. And large thigh tattoos. If those don't bother you, can't go wrong.

Some Deep Thoughts:

- Kendall is now indy Mila Sanders. She's now advertising with facial photos and she looks to be a very pretty brunette.

- As was mentioned, I wouldn't rule out Mike's Mansion. They have a few well-reviewed stars such as April Rose, Bianca, Charlotte, Mischa and newcomer Evelyn. Evelyn has some new photos that seem to opaquely confirm her facial beauty that is getting a lot of buzz.

- Social media has some resources. April Rose and Hanna (Starr) are not camera shy on Twitter. Hanna has been a star with Unicorn Healers for some time. If you like curvy Scandinavian girls, she might be your thing. April Rose with Mike's Mansion is a very cute, redhead exhibitionist who does a lot of revealing clips lip-synching and dancing on Snapchat. April Rose is a Top 5 finisher in the recent local poll and by the look of things, with a range of little costumes, she likes to please men.

- Sedition, can you elaborate why the XO line-up is not your thing? They certainly are the top dog agency right now. I don't care for their website photography. I think it makes the girl's look too skinny. That might be deliberate to attract local tastes.

- A guy I conversed with was very high on Lola and Catherine. He also recommended Mischa for her great body and attitude. I think when it comes to the local poll a girl generally has to start before the year began or early in the year. She also has to work a lot. Some highly-reviewed girls who work sporadically don't receive many votes.

- Having followed the local board for awhile, there is quite a bit of risk sampling new girls especially for those traveling far from parts of the USA And Canada. I've seen some new girls get one or two stellar reviews (shills? Maybe, not sure) and then one or two bad reviews. Then just like that they quit the business. If you were an agency operator, this is exactly how you would play it. You would take a pretty newcomer introduce them to a few good clients who will both review them well and not test them too hard. Perhaps a guy who is far, far from attractive is then the next client or a very demanding client. This can be a difficult experience for a young, unprepared girl starting out. It can also lead to her quick retirement from the business.

Thanks for the great leads for everyone, WyattEarp.

I was inspired to look at the reviews.

I think this advertising link to Mila Sanders (previously Kendall) will go through okay.

[URL]https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?166513-MILA-SANDERS-%26%2310084%3B%26%2365039%3B-NEW-Indy-MTL-%26%2310084%3B%26%2365039%3B-YOUR-SWEET-COMPANION-%26%2310084%3B%26%2365039%3B[/URL]

I wondered why she suddenly disappeared from the Vogue website when I was looking up the Vogue ladies for Monger718.

You are correct that Lola and Catherine of XO have pages of fantastic reviews and should be added to anyone's list. So we now have five ladies (two from his initial list, one that I added, and these two) from XO that Monger718 and his friends can consider. There is a high probability that 1-5 of them will be available on a given day or night.

I liked the reviews of Mischa, Charlotte and Evelyn of Mike's Mansion. There just weren't that many reviews of any of the three. But what few reviews there were made them sound great. I was particularly impressed with Evelyn's review.

But reviewing is hard. I can give you an example from your list. I saw April Rose and Bianca from your Mikes Mansion list as a threesome. To me April Rose had the prettier face, larger and shapelier breasts, spoke better English, was more outgoing, and was better at role play. But we played a game where two participants French kissed while the other performed oral sex on each of the French kissers for a specified length of time until the iPhone timer went off. Then there was a rotation and the French kisser on the far left started doing oral sex on the other two. The game ended when a CIM occurred. And honestly, of the two, Bianca was better at performing oral. While I loved them both, it is difficult to know which one to recommend. From a pure sex standpoint, Bianca was better, even though April Rose would score higher on everything else during the session.

For what it is worth, I did not factor in the known "sort of shill" reviews in summarizing things. Many agencies know that a lady's first review is very important. So I think they often have a known customer see her, and do reviews. I think those reviews are real, but they are always favorable. So I knew to discard certain reviews and illustrated the importance of many pages of reviews, and reviews I reasonably knew were not from shills.

This "testing" does allow agencies to weed out underperformers early on, if the tester says a lady is awful. One of the most interesting stories to come out of the DC Madam court case was that her agency "tester" was a Washington DC attorney who saw escorts after work.

He got a kickback from the agency of some of the money he paid when seeing the lady. The ladies didn't know he was a "tester" and if he got a discount upfront they would have known. Good work if you can get it.

Wyatt Earp. I have had good luck with the agency girls. In my last 11 years of going to Montreal I had one bad experience and if she had been a gypsy in an FKK I would have thought nothing of it so I don't think you have too much to lose if you stick the the main agencies and tell the agency owner what you need. You may not get the best of the bunch but even the Montreal B Team will do you up right.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2153366]Wyatt Earp. I have had good luck with the agency girls. In my last 11 years of going to Montreal I had one bad experience and if she had been a gypsy in an FKK I would have thought nothing of it so I don't think you have too much to lose if you stick the the main agencies and tell the agency owner what you need. You may not get the best of the bunch but even the Montreal "be Team" will do you up right.[/QUOTE]It's all good!

I have had a flight diverted from Paris to Montreal, and I have had a couple of Indies cancel and I called agencies that had their stars already booked and they sent over girls that showed up and put forth the effort. It is not like the Frankfurt FKK scene where the ROs smell blood in the water. I am willing to take a chance with the agency girls last minute. There is no negotiating; no up-charges; no one, done, and run and you don't have to have your constant guard up.

I am right now in FKK land and I got to tell you that the old saying about approach that _ with two loaded guns is so true here. Don't get me wrong because I am having a ball here but you had better keep your guard up, especially in the NRW area. Compare this with MUH, MM, James, etc. Just call them and they will send a lover over to see you about 49/50 times. There will be no bargaining for services or pushy up-charges.

Montreal provides about the most consistent services that I have ever had.