Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=TheCane;2633148]Not true. I have been around vaccines my entire life and have received every single one of those inoculations you mentioned (and then some) before going abroad, and I know what kind of protections they gave me. Vaccines offer some damn good protection. That's why people should get vaxxed (thanks for making the case), but they don't make one impervious to illness. And what did I say? I said to get infected after vaccination would be the exception versus the rule. Which means that it would be quite rare in most circumstances. Chill out Johnny Walker. Have a drink![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/yellen-covid-germany-restrictions/2021/12/02/id/1047066/[/URL]

In the Netherlands, health authorities called for pre-flight COVID-19 tests for all travel from outside the European Union, after it turned out that most of the passengers who tested positive after arriving on two flights from South Africa on Nov. 26 had been vaccinated.

Did they get vaxxed with sewer water? Aka Sinovax ROTFLMMFAO.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2633141]That's not how any vaccine, has ever worked. TB, smallpox, cholera, polio, yellow fever. You can't get these diseases, and spread them, if you're vaccinated.

The cdc literally changed the definition of vaccines and herd immunity in 2020. This is a fact.

The covid shot isn't a vaccine, it's a treatment like the flu shot to prevent harsher symptoms. The same way a flu shot doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it.

This is why there wasnt a spanish flu vaccine and why there has never been one for respiratory viruses, they naturally mutate too fast to have any "vaccine".

I am vaxxed but against mandates as they are an obvious govt power grab pushed forward by manipulating emotional and illogical peoples' heart strings like yourself.

you shouldnt care if anyone is unvaccinated or "anti-vaxx". Wake up.[/QUOTE]Have you ever taken a science class? How do you think vaccines are developed? You think that one day some scientist says "Eureka" I know the answer and puts together some chemicals and / or bio agents and voila! The world now has a vaccine that works perfectly and no one ever gets the disease again? That is a fair interpretation of what your post suggests.

The reality is that the disease is studied and a vaccine is eventually developed as a result of that research. It is tested and retested, side effects and efficacy are measured. Over time the vaccine results are studied and the vaccine is revised and revised and revised until eventually it is nearly perfect. So you object to calling the "CoVid vaccine" a vaccine because it isn't perfect yet? Sorry man, you need to get a refund from the Elvis School of Science Fiction and enter the real world.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2633188]Did they get vaxxed with sewer water? Aka Sinovax ROTFLMMFAO.[/QUOTE]Speaking of sewer water, if there's anybody here who thinks getting vaccinated is 100% protection from getting sick, here's what I want them to do. First, get a cholera shot, or maybe you already have one. Then next, go to some poor, underdeveloped country in say Africa or somewhere in Asia. And then, start drinking from the same rivers, ditches, and holes that they drink from. And let's see what happens. Don't tell me that having the cholera vaccine means you absolutely can't get it! I know better. The risk is still there. Same with other diseases. I just got vaccinated against shingles, and they out and out tell you that there is no guarantee that you won't get shingles. And in the unlikely event that you do get it, then the vaccine will help you fight it and get through it. That's how vaccines work. They aren't guaranteed shields against contracting a disease, but they offer an awful lot of protection, and make it far less likely that you will get sick. But if you do, then thank your lucky stars you got that shot! Because, it could save your life (or that of somebody you love).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2633229]Speaking of sewer water, if there's anybody here who thinks getting vaccinated is 100% protection from getting sick, here's what I want them to do. First, get a cholera shot, or maybe you already have one. Then next, go to some poor, underdeveloped country in say Africa or somewhere in Asia. And then, start drinking from the same rivers, ditches, and holes that they drink from. And let's see what happens. Don't tell me that having the cholera vaccine means you absolutely can't get it! I know better. The risk is still there. Same with other diseases. I just got vaccinated against shingles, and they out and out tell you that there is no guarantee that you won't get shingles. And in the unlikely event that you do get it, then the vaccine will help you fight it and get through it. That's how vaccines work. They aren't guaranteed shields against contracting a disease, but they offer an awful lot of protection, and make it far less likely that you will get sick. But if you do, then thank your lucky stars you got that shot! Because, it could save your life (or that of somebody you love).[/QUOTE]Leave it to a hyper parasitic capitalist country like the CCP (you know the one Villany the pus oozing vagina "respects so much") to initiate a virulently deadly global pandemic and then to compound the injury by selling.

Useless PPE and Sinovax, even worse than useless, people are buying and using them thinking they are being protected.

The Jews have a saying in re, WW2.

Never again.

Will the world go back to letting the CCP destroy the planet after the CCP plague of 2019?

I read they are stock piling nukes LOL I sure hope they are made in China LMAO.

So why are they stock piling nukes?

[URL]https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/pentagon-report-reveals-beijing-aims-to-quadruple-nuclear-weapons-stockpile/news-story/475b0918749d8bc9e324636f2896d81d[/URL]

If you want to save humanity stop sending your money to China, quit buying trash made in Asia.(except for Taiwan or Vietnam)

[QUOTE=Huacho;2633021]Another impressive source. A fake doctor, arrested and jailed multiple times for practicing medicine without a license, and starving people to death.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_M._Shelton[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2632971] I happen to be an extremely well-informed, well-educated person who takes my[/QUOTE]You are also extremely full of yourself.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2632719]No bueno.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/covid-19-omicron-quarantine-variant/2021/11/30/id/1046827/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/2/wrapup-1-first-omicron-case-in-u-s-adds-to-global-alarm-over-virus-variant[/URL]

To cancel or not.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2633267]Leave it to a hyper parasitic capitalist country like the CCP (you know the one Villany the pus oozing vagina "respects so much") to initiate a virulently deadly global pandemic and then to compound the injury by selling.

Useless PPE and Sinovax, even worse than useless, people are buying and using them thinking they are being protected.

The Jews have a saying in re, WW2.

Never again.

Will the world go back to letting the CCP destroy the planet after the CCP plague of 2019?

I read they are stock piling nukes LOL I sure hope they are made in China LMAO.

So why are they stock piling nukes?.[/QUOTE]And I think you missed mine. I wasn't trying to get your point and was only interested in making my own. Hahaha!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2632971]And by the way in Mr. E's example, just because somebody else is doing something wrong doesn't mean that you too should go and do something wrong yourself. One still has a choice to make about doing the right thing or choosing to act fraudulently yourself. You know the saying. Two wrongs don't make a right![/QUOTE]But you also have to remember just because someone is doing the fraudulent thing does not mean it is the wrong thing. Or someone doing the right thing now may not be considered the right thing later on.

There were plenty in history that were doing what their societies considered the right thing at the time but looking back turned out being a fucked up thing to be doing. The right thing at the time would have been those people turning Anne Frank's family over to the authorities instead of hiding them. The right thing in early American history would have been people like Harriet Tubman turning in runaway slaves instead of helping them. Many times right and wrong depend on the perspective.

If you feel you are being unfairly treated should you just stand idle and abide by it or find a work around? Can't get mad at the slaves for running off the plantation; or can you?

[QUOTE=Huacho;2633015]Ward Churchill, disgraced former University of Colorado professor, was fired for lying about being Native American and for multiple incidents of plagiarism.
[/QUOTE]Wait until those Martin Luther King FBI tapes come out in 2027. Then we can talk about how wrong he was about everything ever.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2633024]Sigh. Okay, I know you went to Golden Gate so I will try to keep it real simple. Asymptomatic transmission. You only think you don't have the disease. You are not sure. So, you're running around unvaccinated and not sure if you have the disease or not.[/QUOTE]So you are saying THE TESTS I take every week that say I do not have the disease and the symptoms that I do not have are wrong? But the test Jj had that said he was positive and the the symptoms that he had indicating it were right? I think I am getting it now. You are asserting a heads I win, tails you lose thing!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633304]Wait until those Martin Luther King FBI tapes come out in 2027. Then we can talk about how wrong he was about everything ever.[/QUOTE]That he plagiarized his thesis and he was banging hookers the time he was whacked? That has been in the public domain for years. He crossed some heavy dudes and got whacked. I was speaking to friends about mutual friends who got whacked by crossing ultra heavies. I said they should not have done a Daniel and crawled into an evil lion's den. Others say crooked lions should be taken on. On their home turf. I may be crazy but I ain't that fucking crazy.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2633148]I said to get infected after vaccination would be the exception versus the rule. Which means that it would be quite rare in most circumstances.[/QUOTE]Then it would also hold that to be unvaccinated and get covid is the exception and not the rule (at least for now). Afterall, there are way more unvaccinated people that have not gotten covid than have gotten it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633308]So you are saying THE TESTS I take every week that say I do not have the disease and the symptoms that I do not have are wrong? But the test Jj had that said he was positive and the the symptoms that he had indicating it were right? I think I am getting it now. You are asserting a heads I win, tails you lose thing![/QUOTE]And there is a guy recently got COVID but still got on airplane multiple times but no one talked him down just because he is vaccinated.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633311]Then it would also hold that to be unvaccinated and get covid is the exception and not the rule (at least for now). Afterall, there are way more unvaccinated people that have not gotten covid than have gotten it.[/QUOTE]Man your logic and reasoning sometimes. Here's the thing. The focus has to be on who [B]is[/B] getting it and dying from it. That's by far and above the unvaccinated, and they're contracting it at rate that's still too high and threatens to overwhelm the healthcare system quickly. I don't think we need anymore major shutdowns but vaccination, masking, testing, and distancing combined with sensible travel restrictions to slow global spread is the only way out of this thing. And everyone needs to do their part, including world leaders getting people in the poorer countries vaccinated as well. We're not safe until everybody is safe!