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[QUOTE=Billcan 2]After doing a lot of reading on this board, it seems that the general consensus is that places that have Korean girls are generally better than Chinese girls. But how do you find out which they have. Can you ask, and will the touts tell you up front. Or is it just hit or miss. [/QUOTE]Learn the kanji for Korea (kankoku) and China (chugoku). Then look at the signs. The touts will tell you if you ask.

[QUOTE=Billcan 2]One last thing have any of you tried the med Cialis. After I posted about Viagra, I did somemore reading and this med seems to be more popular in the US, with far fewer side effects. I wonder if you can score that in Tokyo?[/QUOTE]BillcanI recently bought some Cialis 40 mg and Viagra 100 mg in Shimbashi. It's available in shops on both the first and second floors of the big white building outside the Karasumori entrance (inland). Levitra also. Cost was similar - Y2,000 per pill and the deal was the order arrives at the store a week later from the US. I used half doses which were effective, but seemed a bit weaker than the brand Viagra I had previously bought back home. Viagra lasts 4 hours, Cialis lasts 36 hours. Levitra (which I didn't try) lasts 4 hours but takes effect in 15-20 minutes vs nearly an hour for the others. Not much difference between Viagra and Cialis, maybe the Cialis seemed a tad weaker in effect, but little difference really. The side effects in my case, a red flushed face and blurred closeup vision were similar. Headache from Viagra but not from Cialis. The guy at the store said the flushing wouldn't be as bad with the Cialis. Maybe, but I didn't like the red face and blurred vision lasting 36 hours and for that reason prefer the Viagra.

A week later? Hmm, you could just order from online pharm and they'll ship deirectly to you by EMS. Many pharmacy in Thailand, etc do this. Takes about 3-4days max. Otherwise - you can buy it directly at the pharmacy/clinic in areas like Shinjuku, Akasaka, etc.

Looking at the Tokyo scene through my gaijin who knows Japan well eyes, I came, like many of us, to this conclusion:- gaijin visiting Tokyo want to have fun, and want to experience what they believe is typical to the japanese sex scene: manga girls, schoolgirls, saunas, bondage, even bukkake... - unfortunately most of the places providing such services are NOT gaijin-friendly- the few gaijin friendly places are not easy to identify, and do not provide all the desired services- the clubs mainly designed for gaijin have non-japanese chicks, and do not satisfy gaijin's curiosity---> bottom line: do you think that there is a great opportunity for a club (or kinda franchise of clubs) that would be:- mainly for giajin visiting tokyo- easily accessible, with English signs, advertising, ....- provide all japanese curiosity, from japanese or japanese like english girls- with a clear price menu- in a prime location- comply with the yakusa/club management issuesI just want to point of view on that...

Rene,Of course there would be great inbterest for such a club, as long as it offers exactly what you describe as specifically japanese. I am just afraid that the cost would be quite high.

sorry to ask again, but after utamaro and seiki 21 closed i can't find any multiple bj bar except sugamo. something new? thanks

Dear Brothers,I have had the ultimate experience last night somewhere in Kabukicho.Met with a friend I met on AFF. After some drinks and dinner, she took me to this private bar in Kabukicho. Basically, it's an "everything goes" type of place. Basically, a place for swingers to hang out and do all. Within the four hours we were there, I saw a gangbang, five BJs, a couple of DATYs, two bukkakes, etc. I also received a BJ and came close to a four-way.I was asked not to divulge the location of this place. It is typically not gaijin friendly, but there were a few inside. The key is being able to speak some Japanese and to treat everyone with respect. Hope I can make it back there again some day!BC

[QUOTE=Business Class]Dear Brothers,I have had the ultimate experience last night somewhere in Kabukicho.Met with a friend I met on AFF. After some drinks and dinner, she took me to this private bar in Kabukicho. Basically, it's an "everything goes" type of place. Basically, a place for swingers to hang out and do all. Within the four hours we were there, I saw a gangbang, five BJs, a couple of DATYs, two bukkakes, etc. I also received a BJ and came close to a four-way.I was asked not to divulge the location of this place. It is typically not gaijin friendly, but there were a few inside. The key is being able to speak some Japanese and to treat everyone with respect. Hope I can make it back there again some day!BC[/QUOTE]BC,Glad you had a good time:I got a question for you:If you are told not to divulge the location of this place, and you do not intend to share this good place with the rest of us, than why to do bother to post it on the board?To make us all jealous???AG

Yeah - really. All you have to do is search. They aren't that secret.. [url]http://www.tfrpark.qxx.jp/page2.htm[/url]

so back to my initial question a few posts below... if such places existed, being ototally gaijin friendly, or designed for gaijin, with enough marketing aroud, would they work ?I am really thiking about doing something concrete in that area.

[QUOTE=Rene02]so back to my initial question a few posts below... if such places existed, being ototally gaijin friendly, or designed for gaijin, with enough marketing aroud, would they work ?I am really thiking about doing something concrete in that area.[/QUOTE]Rene: I think basically the younger Japanese girls working the fuzoku scene don't want to do their work with foreign clients because gaijin are foreign, unpredictable and "scary". Their chinpira managers can supply them with a never-ending supply of Japanese johns who will behave in an absolutely predictable way, know what's on the house menus, communicate perfectly, and have smaller cocks. There are a minority of girls, possibly a little older, for whom money may be an inducement and may therefore be prepared to consider doing gaijin for a lot more money. But you can already find these girls at Club Boo and Asian Mystique...Your scheme might work by employing Chinese girls (the Korean girls tend to be more "innocent" and less inclined to do FS), and maybe this is what you could be aiming at. There is still the little problem of the attitude of the authorities, but as I have indicated in another post, I do think they might be prepared to support a reasonable proposition (eg. in Yokosuka there are a couple of prominent soapies just outside the gates of the US naval base).

Bro AG,Sorry for the tease. Definitely not trying to make anyone jealous. But after that kind of experience, you just want to spread the word. I understand that this place has a website in English (but not completely GF for some reason). The only reason I can't divulge the place is because my AFF friend didn't want to ruin it for everyone else. In other words, I guess it's one of those places where everyone knows each other, and newcomers are not always welcome. It took a couple of dates to establish trust before she even mentioned that she knew of such a place.The odds of me being able to get in on my own in the future is slim to none. But definitely one of the all-time great experiences in Tokyo.BC[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]BC,Glad you had a good time:I got a question for you:If you are told not to divulge the location of this place, and you do not intend to share this good place with the rest of us, than why to do bother to post it on the board?To make us all jealous???AG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lubricate It]Rene: I think basically the younger Japanese girls working the fuzoku scene don't want to do their work with foreign clients because gaijin are foreign, unpredictable and "scary". Their chinpira managers can supply them with a never-ending supply of Japanese johns who will behave in an absolutely predictable way, know what's on the house menus, communicate perfectly, and have smaller cocks. There are a minority of girls, possibly a little older, for whom money may be an inducement and may therefore be prepared to consider doing gaijin for a lot more money. But you can already find these girls at Club Boo and Asian Mystique...Your scheme might work by employing Chinese girls (the Korean girls tend to be more "innocent" and less inclined to do FS), and maybe this is what you could be aiming at. There is still the little problem of the attitude of the authorities, but as I have indicated in another post, I do think they might be prepared to support a reasonable proposition (eg. in Yokosuka there are a couple of prominent soapies just outside the gates of the US naval base).[/QUOTE]As a frequent visitor to thailand and being close to many thai working girls ,they love Japaneas and Korean man because they all very small and finish in less than 2 minutes and send the girls home. And the girls go back to the bar to get a seconed or third round of customers. with Gaijin they know that mostly big equipment and take them a long time to finish.

Wow - I can't believe the predominant stereotyping going on here. If any of you just talk directly with the shop owners and women working you would know what the issues and myths are:1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. The difference really isn't that much -Black 6.89" (175 mm)Asian 5.33" (135 mm)Caucasian 6.22" (158 mm)Hispanic 6.15" (156 mm)Native American 5.66" (144 mm)2) Myth - asian men finish in 2min. I've seen many asian guys pound for hours - just like caucasian. And in fact, many recover from orgasm faster and go on tpo cum again and again. Why do you think many Pink Salon offer 2, 3 and even 4 shots? I bet not many guys here pull off a 3shot in 30min.3) Fact - communication is key. Not being able to speak a common language is the biggest problem for non-japanese speakers entering most clubs. Bear in mind - most of the clubs in Japan stress 'play' over performance. So having good communication is important.4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. Which means they are usually drunk and rowdy. Which means the safety of the women is reduced. Of course Japanese guys get drunk and rowdy too. They are also declined entrance. But most of the customers are just average guys off of work, wanting to engage some fun play in safety and respect.5) Fact - 'H' oriented clubs, especially the service establishments are very organised by select groups. If you are not part of that group it's highly unlikely you would get a license to operate. (Yes - they are all licensed)6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.7) Fact - Japanese women love all sizes of men. I've been with super petite women that could take a horse! And larger ones that were so tight, you could barely get a finger in. Alot of Japanese women prefer larger dick for pussy fucking and smaller dick for other play. They are very tuned into their sex play. There is little Judeo-christian guilt hampering their fun. They are picky and proactive about what they like and want.8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. Ganbatte!S.

Don't mean to disagree or agree with you, but IMHO:1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. Race does not counts, I have seen Asians having a 10 inches dick and Westerner having 3 inch. I would say.. it depends on person to person. But on the average, westerneer have larger or longer ones.2) Myth - asian men finish in 2min. Again here it depends on person to person, Race have nothing to do with Stamina and performance in Sex. Survey had shown that more westerners took Vitamin "V". 3) Fact - communication is key. Not being able to speak a common language is the biggest problem for non-japanese speakers entering most clubs. Bear in mind - most of the clubs in Japan stress 'play' over performance. So having good communication is important.Totally agree with this. In any country, communication is the key.4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. Which means they are usually drunk and rowdy. Which means the safety of the women is reduced. Of course Japanese guys get drunk and rowdy too. They are also declined entrance. But most of the customers are just average guys off of work, wanting to engage some fun play in safety and respect.No, most of the ladies working in such place have a misconception that Westerners are big and rough. As you said; the drunks and rowdy are already turned away at door steps, they do not even get to see the girls. If they are inside the shop, if given a choice the girls will chose Asian rather than westerners so to avoid the girls turning away the clients inside the shop (which is a turn off! and the client will never come again!) They will not allow foreigners at door steps. 5) Fact - 'H' oriented clubs, especially the service establishments are very organised by select groups. If you are not part of that group it's highly unlikely you would get a license to operate. (Yes - they are all licensed)Agreed6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.Agreed but you must not be drunk at door step!7) Fact - Japanese women love all sizes of men. This is not true: I spoke to lot of ladies in the line, they are afraid of large size. It is a misconception that larger size will hurts. But again it is also a misconception that smaller size is less preasurable.8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. Do not agree... Remember foreigners come to Japan for work are paid Expat salaries so they cannot be poor. And the girls knew that! But I hate to say this, in any country, it is always the Japanese who will spoilt the market! I have heard this from the girls many times before: "Japanese man, we like, because they are stupid; pay a lot, but do very little. Pay for LT, finish one time, go to sleep and ask us to go home." ==> Sorry don't mean to be racist here but these are true words from the ladies.I can see a lot of objections coming my way on my post but these are just my understanding from living in Japan for more than 5 years. I am a ABC (actually Half Japanese - mother is Japanese.) Finally IMHO: I think it is a sensitive topic about differences among races; so please to do use this forum to curse or undermind each other. Just exchange information and get on with our hunt!AG