Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2083503]Go to Medellin and enjoy, following YOUR attitude and personal compass. "To each his own" and "YMMV" are the rules. I bet you will love Medellin and you will never want to come back. (and forget also Facebook "supermodels", unless you are interested to try girls already mastering the art of entertaining rich gringos).

Questionable, but my opinion.[/QUOTE]Well put BP.

GFE from lower end strip club girls is entirely possible.

Most depends on you and your personality, language skill, etc.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2083302]Is that there are more varieties of restaurants. It is difficult to eat cooked vegetable dish or a variety of fish dishes in Medellin and other cities. Also there is more variety in working girls, and there are more cultural and artistic events in Bogot.[/QUOTE]Bogota logically has more of everything -- hot women, restaurants, clubs, culture. It should as it's 3 times bigger than MDE.

I'll take the perfect 78 degree weather and lower altitude of MDE every day.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2083365]

I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones. I'd like to believe that I will cruise into the 3 strip clubs near Degrief (or is it el centro), and see many more soft sweet chicas than I did at Fiebre or Troya, etc. I'd like to believe that 2-3 out of ten will be GFE material instead of the 1 out of 10 at best that it is in Bogot.

Probably not the case though huh?[/QUOTE]The odds are not in your favor.

You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.

The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.

Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.

At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2083365]
I'm not a casa guy or escort guy really. I much prefer the strip cubs, the non clip-joint ones. I'd like to believe that I will cruise into the 3 strip clubs near Degrief (or is it el centro), and see many more soft sweet chicas than I did at Fiebre or Troya, etc. I'd like to believe that 2-3 out of ten will be GFE material instead of the 1 out of 10 at best that it is in Bogot.

Probably not the case though huh?[/QUOTE]Cartagena has hookers at the late night clubs (after 11 pm onwards). There's only one "strip club" in the old city. Everything else late at night tends to have some hookers. But it's a more expensive city.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2083586]The odds are not in your favor.

You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.

The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.

Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.

At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.[/QUOTE]Is there a good "beginner's guide to the Mansion" post here somewhere, that's still somewhat current? I poked through a number of pages (RTTF) but didn't quite figure it out.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2083586]
You should do exactly what I said. Book a room at the Mansion. It is a completely different environment than strip clubs and casas.
The girls there know the value in giving a GFE as they know that they will see you again if you are staying there.
Girls in strip clubs and casas have so many one time customers that the idea of giving excellent service to cultivate a following just doesn't really occur to them.
At the Mansion girls have gone from rags to riches building a cult following and other chicks take notice.[/QUOTE]Girls at Mansion give GFE?? But girls in clubs not, because they have too many customers??
I have never been at Mansion, because I thought it was difficult to find fresh first-timers. You offer a new perspective. ROFL.
Your advice seems biased to me, to say the least.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;2083689]Is there a good "beginner's guide to the Mansion" post here somewhere, that's still somewhat current?.[/QUOTE]
Mansion is a place organized and conceived mainly for Americans, who need a guide and penis-feeding on site (the P4P version of spoon-feeding). So now there is the need of a "beginner's guide" for first-time users of a spoon-feeding guide? Man, the world is complex.

I spent 2 nights there 2 years ago. Live in Laureles 3 or 4 months out of a year.

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I would never over pay at the mansion, knowing it is much cheaper just down the street.

But I have never seen a place like Medellin, where no one knows English!

Wolf made it possible for me to enjoy Medellin, because he grew up in Costa Rica and knows Spanish.

Fase dos has all real 10's for 190 k peso's (less than $60.00) 15+ every night.

Many of the casa's have 6-8's for 40 K. (less than $13.00).

Many other strip clubs have 6-9's for 80 k-130 k peso (about $24.00 - $39.00).

You can stay at Hotel Botero for $30.00 a night. Double opp.

But if you don't know any spanish you will have a tough time.

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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2083690]

Girls at Mansion give GFE?? But girls in clubs not, because they have too many customers??
I have never been at Mansion, because I thought it was difficult to find fresh first-timers. You offer a new perspective. ROFL.
Your advice seems biased to me, to say the least.

[/QUOTE]I don't think my opinions are necessarily biased but they are anecdotal and of course YMMV.

I found the highest percentage of GFE at the Mansion. I'd estimate 75 percent on average.

I don't know why Club girls don't give a GFE as much as the Mansion chicks. But my guess would be. Because they don't feel it will get them much on average.

From my experience about 25 percent of Club girls will give a GFE if you pay the multa and take them out of the club. It drops down to 10 percent or less if you do them at the club.

I have also found that you can increase the odds of club chicks giving you a GFE to about 50% if you get their phone number and they actually show up at your apartment for a TLN instead of going to work at the club.

But dealing with women that have worked the clubs is a headache for the most part. When you say that you want a TLN and try to get a price out of them. They often want you to tell them how many hours she will spend with you. The whole idea of spending a mutually enjoyable time together. So you want to see them again and again. Seems to be a foreign concept to most of them. But not all.

The only upside to club chicks is that there are more hotter chicks on average than at the Mansion. And that's it. With casa chicks you have the same pitfalls as the Club chicks except they are less attractive on average then the Mansion women.

The absolute best way to get the hottest chicks with the highest percentage of GFE is through facebook. Sky is the limit on looks and they often want less than the best looking girls at the clubs. Only draw back to facebook is that it is a time consuming process to friend and sell the idea of them selling their ass to you. Often times you will find women that are working facebook for clients. Usually they worked at the Mansion in the past or other venues. But they are still much more likely to give a good GFE than Club chicks. Just because they value repeat customers. And plenty quit working clubs so they would have more control over who they are doing. Which is a good thing. If you are looking for a true GFE.

For the guys that are really interested in a GFE. Anytime a girl flakes on you and is a no show. She did you a huge favor. Because it would have really sucked if she had been hard up enough to actually show up.

And if you can't get a replacement for your no show. You can always roll the dice at the clubs.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2083787]I don't know why Club girls don't give a GFE as much as the Mansion chicks. But my guess would be. Because they don't feel it will get them much on average.[/QUOTE]Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks. I just pay the basic price in the casas and the negotiated price in the strip clubs. And even if I didn't get the GFE, for $12 in a casa or $20 in a strip club I don't think I can go wrong. It costs that much just to walk in the door of a strip club back home where I more than likely will not get to fuck.

How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2083939]Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks?[/QUOTE]I am definitely all about GFE. I find prepagos, strippers, street walkers, webcam models, and semi-pros to be too hardened for me. I've been in Mde twice and have never set foot in a casa or strip club. I was tempted but I usually go by myself to Mde and don't feel safe in areas where they are usually located.

I've had great success on SA. Although my batting average is lower than most that look for the hardened ones I mentioned. For example I only fucked 3/40 girls I original messaged. The 3 I was initimate with were amazing. Easily an 8 or 9 in looks on *** and 9/10 performance. The best part was that they showed me places and things that I would've never thought to do. Like joining me to guatape, rio negro, inviting me to their universities to smoke weed and show me off to their friends, showing me their favorite activities and gems in the city that's not in a tourist guide. And the best part is all 3 were down with being choked, anal, CIM, bareback, rimming etc. True GFE. The way I fucked these girls and had rough sex with them was almost out of the scenes from 50 shades of grey or a porno and they loved it!. Hell I even fucked all 3 on the balcony of my high rise airbnb overlooking the amazing views of Mde and out in the open! Anyone could see us if they knew where to look when we were fucking on my balcony haha.They treated me like their BF and always were so happy to sleep overnight in my airbnb. I just treat them like normal everyday women and expect the same respect.

The best part is, they never want any money from me. I usually give them $100.000 mil pesos ($35 usd) for all day / night as a thank you but after the 2nd or 3rd time they don't accept my gifts. They are just happy to be treated like special ladies doing fun activities with me and eating at expensive places. Well expensive for colombian standards but cheap for USA standards.

Anyways. My question to you gents is what has your experience on SA, OKC, and tinder? Which dating app is best? I use SA because I am also on it in the states. Also with SA there is incentive for the chicas to meet you because they think you are a rich sugar daddy and usually never flake. The problem I've noticed is that the user base in Mde for SA is small and 50% of the chicas are hardened pros.

What's a bette dating app? Tinder or OKC to meet Chicas in Mde?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2083939]Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks.
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How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?[/QUOTE]Sure.

I remember a girl from Luna Lunera. After the standard deed in one of those room, I took her phone and we met out of the club. We went to dance and drink in a bar of La 70, not far from LL. She even wanted me to speak with her mum, who was calling her and wanted to know if she was safe or doing nasty things. We met a couple more times, but then she became "too much" GFE and started to demand gifts that for me were out of question. Our friendship ended in Mangos.

I had a fantastic GF who was working as waitress in a swinger club.

Opportunities are endless, considered the number of streets, bars and clubs that make lively Medellin at night.

Different people has different concepts of what is "GFE", probably.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2083939]Not my experience at all. I constantly get GFE from strip club and casa chicks and I don't give all those tips and taxi money shits nor do I buy them drinks. I just pay the basic price in the casas and the negotiated price in the strip clubs. And even if I didn't get the GFE, for $12 in a casa or $20 in a strip club I don't think I can go wrong. It costs that much just to walk in the door of a strip club back home where I more than likely will not get to fuck.

How many chicks are usually at the Mansion versus the hundreds in the casas and strip clubs?[/QUOTE]I know some guys can do that. I can't however. I can spend days walking all over el centro and not find one chick that I'd really want to do. And on the occasion that I do find one that I can do for 20 bucks. It really isn't something that I would do again.

I wish I was like you guys that can get value out of those kinds of experiences but sadly I can't seem to do that.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2083977]Sure.

Different people has different concepts of what is "GFE", probably.

[/QUOTE]Yeah I think you are right about that but you'd think it would be obvious.

A GFE is well a girl that acts and fucks like your girlfriend does.

Likes to make out with you. Affectionate in public. Spends the night. Wakes up and initiates sex. Condom optional. BBBJ no extra charge. Never asks for money upfront and asks if she can come over again before she leaves in the morning or afternoon. Or better yet just stays with you a couple of days at a time.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2084025]I know some guys can do that. I can't however. I can spend days walking all over el centro and not find one chick that I'd really want to do. And on the occasion that I do find one that I can do for 20 bucks. It really isn't something that I would do again.

I wish I was like you guys that can get value out of those kinds of experiences but sadly I can't seem to do that.[/QUOTE]Give those apps a shot. What I like about SA is that the girls already know you are looking for sex. But I also treat it like regular dating. If there's no chemistry, then next girl! I don't even bother with pros or semi-pros. The thing with SA is that although you are willing to give money for intimacy. I make it clear to the chicas that I'm not interested in prepagos and that I'm looking for amiga con derecho or novia when I am in town. If something develops then awesome. If not then both parties knows that its an arrangement. I do not gift before intimacy. The chicas that I sleep with usually never bring up money at all and are happy to just have a nice dinner, nice date, and amazing sex with an extranjero. The thing is to seduce them like you would with regular dating. Since I'm new to Medellin. I ask them to think of creative dates for us to go on. Doesn't have to be expensive or grandiose. It can also be simple and creative. If you seduce them, are charming, interesting, and try to speak Spanish. They normally will return with hot wet panties just wanting to experience a "rich" cute extranjero.

But I do admit that it doesn't come easy and takes a lot of work with interviewing and selecting. You can usually weed out the flakes, pros, semi pros, or ones that are only interested in money from the beginning. PM if you need advice. Good luck brother.