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[QUOTE=Guido88;2429661]For me today is my last day in Frankfurt and I am undecided if I want to risk getting sick to get laid. You can't tell if it's cold, flu or the new virus. Everyone has to make their own decision. Roll the dice.
Guido888.[/QUOTE]We roll the dice every single time we DFK one of these tutes (or eat out the pussy or lick that ass). I remember that after my very first trip to Brazil, I got so sick that once I got back I missed an entire week of work recovering. Never happened again, because taking advice from more experienced guys, I started gargling regularly with Listerine to kill the germs. Gargle before I go to the club. Gargle immediately upon arriving back at my hotel room. Hell, gargle at the club too if I can. Doing that one thing (gargling frequently with Listerine) has prevented me ever again from getting sick from kissing on the tutes during a mongering trip. Would that help defend against the coronavirus versus the common cold or a known strain of flu? I don't know, and would not chance it.
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[QUOTE=Guido88;2429661]I have been in Sharks a couple of times in the last 8 days. Saturday business was noticeably down with some girls complained of a lack of business. However I saw 15 plus Asians all taking rooms with the girls. No one was told no. Also I noticed several very sick girls still working. One entering the club as I was leaving was extremely sick. 1/3 of the German men coughing along with the other mongers coughing as well. Currently here in Frankfurt and Norway (I just left) at least 30% of the people have some kind of bug.
IMHO. It looks to me like an FKK is a great place to pick up some type of bug or sickness. Men freely coughing away with no Kleenex to catch the snot in the locker rooms or in the club or from a girl.
I would would watch the scene and see which girls are visibly sick before picking one.
For me today is my last day in Frankfurt and I am undecided if I want to risk getting sick to get laid. You can't tell if it's cold, flu or the new virus. Everyone has to make their own decision.
Roll the dice.
Guido888.[/QUOTE]I've been to Sharks several times this past few weeks including the Saturday you were there. I'm asian and none of them refused but a lot of them used the lack of business to upsell w / 200/60 or 150/60 when I told them 100/60. They would come back later agreeing to 100/60 but at the point I refuse to go w / them and go w / my regulars for 100/60 or 50/30. You're more than likely to catch the virus from one of the other european men especially Italians who have been spreading it all over europe then one of the asians since China is on lockdown.
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[QUOTE=Palcon;2429737]but a lot of them used the lack of business to upsell w / 200/60 or 150/60 when I told them 100/60.[/QUOTE]Now there's a total misunderstanding of how supply and demand works.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2429671]We roll the dice every single time we DFK one of these tutes (or eat out the pussy or lick that ass). I remember that after my very first trip to Brazil, I got so sick that once I got back I missed an entire week of work recovering. Never happened again, because taking advice from more experienced guys, I started gargling regularly with Listerine to kill the germs. Gargle before I go to the club. Gargle immediately upon arriving back at my hotel room. Hell, gargle at the club too if I can. Doing that one thing (gargling frequently with Listerine) has prevented me ever again from getting sick from kissing on the tutes during a mongering trip. Would that help defend against the coronavirus versus the common cold or a known strain of flu? I don't know, and would not chance it.[/QUOTE]Anecdotal for sure, but I do the same thing, packing alcohol-based mouthwash into the club and gargling after each session (especially since I love to lick that pussy, and have been know to lick that ass.) I believe it helps a lot.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2429762]Now there's a total misunderstanding of how supply and demand works.[/QUOTE]Always hunting money.
I want my money.
Next time charge 500/60.
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[QUOTE=Palcon;2429737]I've been to Sharks several times this past few weeks including the Saturday you were there. I'm asian and none of them refused but a lot of them used the lack of business to upsell w / 200/60 or 150/60 when I told them 100/60. They would come back later agreeing to 100/60 but at the point I refuse to go w / them and go w / my regulars for 100/60 or 50/30. You're more than likely to catch the virus from one of the other european men especially Italians who have been spreading it all over europe then one of the asians since China is on lockdown.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bonsai;2429475]There was a special corona meeting between the girls and the management this week.[/QUOTE]You should be aware that Sharks thinks exactly the opposite with restriction of sexual services.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2429660]I randomly ask girls about the coronavirus and all are totally unconcerned about it. Most believe that it is overhyped. All have told me that they would gladly have sessions with Asians, Italians, etc. From the girls' standpoint it is business as usual. I am wondering whether mongers have greater concerns as the ratio of girls to boys have been the greatest that I have ever seen not only at FKKs but in p4p destinations generally.[/QUOTE]Girls need to fuck to make money, to eat and to survive. Rome girls in FRA need to fuck or else they should go home. They don't have tons of savings to keep living in FRA with no job and no income.
Guys don't need to fuck. It's nice for fuck but they will not die if they don't fuck.
So, Romie WGs have a higher risk tolerance than mongers. Those girls have no choice.
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[QUOTE=Palcon;2429737]I've been to Sharks several times this past few weeks including the Saturday you were there. I'm asian and none of them refused but a lot of them used the lack of business to upsell w / 200/60 or 150/60 when I told them 100/60. They would come back later agreeing to 100/60 but at the point I refuse to go w / them and go w / my regulars for 100/60 or 50/30. You're more than likely to catch the virus from one of the other european men especially Italians who have been spreading it all over europe then one of the asians since China is on lockdown.[/QUOTE]At Oase most girls insist on E100/1/2 hour and E150,200/1 hour. At Sharks most girls will go for E50/1/2 hour and E100/1 hour. Some will ask for more and this is so in normal circumstances. You may just have encountered girls who normally ask for the higher rates.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2429353]About 2 dozens FKK girls are on my WhatsApp or FB or Instagram, about half of them works / worked in Sharks. Currently about one-third of all these WGs have enough savings and say they are not working until this virus thing gets contained in Germany, few even went back to Romania or Bulgaria. Rest are pretty much forced (unfortunately) to still work as they can't ride it out without working, but about half of them says they are not going to room with any "China-man" (that's what they call all the Asians LOL) anymore to reduce chances of getting sick with that virus. Other half seems to still like the Asian money. So basically (from this informal stats) roughly one-third of the typical FKK WGs are still available to you if you are an Asian. But if you are coughing or sneezing even from simple allergies, you will probably be quickly outcast by the girls, may even be not allowed to enter the club. I am sure other FKK mongers here can update you with more detail or specific information. Good luck with your trip.[/QUOTE]I have been talking with the girls in the clubs. Many girls have left not because of the coronavirus but because of lack of work. There is a universal complaint from the girls that their earnings have gone down significantly because of the absence of mongers. From what I have been hearing and observing many have gone home and also some are trying to escort, charging E150 per hour to come to your hotel room.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2429762]Now there's a total misunderstanding of how supply and demand works.[/QUOTE]Palcon's experience does show that the economics theory of demand and supply works.
Under perfect competition, there would be a fixed clearing price.
But there could now be partial market failure, due to dwindling customers, and customers not knowing how girls react. In such an imperfect competition situation, the best option in economic theory would be to try to sweep the whole area under the demand curve, instead of what is estimated to be the central clearing price.
This means trying to extract the maximum amount from those willing to pay more. And that is what the girls as described by Palcon is doing. Test how high he is willing to go with sob stories, but then settle finally for what he is really willing to oay.
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In current circumstances the strengths of Sharks (and Oase and Palace) can become its weaknesses. But the girls are still overwhelmingly there. No mass exodus. Yet.
Smaller, local clientele clubs likely to suffer less from collapse in visitor numbers. All my many regular girls still around.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2429660]I randomly ask girls about the coronavirus and all are totally unconcerned about it. Most believe that it is overhyped. All have told me that they would gladly have sessions with Asians, Italians, etc. From the girls' standpoint it is business as usual. I am wondering whether mongers have greater concerns as the ratio of girls to boys have been the greatest that I have ever seen not only at FKKs but in p4p destinations generally.[/QUOTE]Most of WGs care much more to make money rather than being careful about virus or other risks, and furthermore when business is quite slow, which is the case in Hessen clubs, Oase girls killing their own business with upselling, when prettier girls like Nadia at Oase. I remember a LR girl who played selective when she started and she was attractive for me for this. I will never go with them she said, but less than 6 months later, these types of clients were her biggest money clients. Even she always chose me first, even delaying her biggest money client for me, and I can only thank her for her behavior for me, but she lost charm in my eyes and mind, and I stopped with her and she was so angry to fall from the star to prostitute like others. Matter of behavior, matter of image she showed, ready for anything for money.
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Helli / Kelly
Hi Guys,
Is Helli / Kelly still at Sharks? Anyone know her end dates before she departs for a break?
I'm thinking of stopping this coming weekend if she is still there.
Thanks. Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2430180]Hi Guys,
Is Helli / Kelly still at Sharks? Anyone know her end dates before she departs for a break?
I'm thinking of stopping this coming weekend if she is still there.
Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]I have been reading that she is there but I have not seen her in all my visits.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2430073].......... but she lost charm in my eyes and mind, and I stopped with her and she was so angry to fall from the star to prostitute like others...........[/QUOTE]I met a girl at Sharks yesterday who gave me absolutely fantastic service. We agreed for E50/1/2 hour but she was so good in the room that I extended to E!00/1 hour. Throughout the session she was all lovey dovey, smiling at me lovingly, kissing me, complimenting me, saying how much she was enjoying the intercourse with lots of DFK and great BBBJ interspersed with DATY and sex in all positions. After the session she even gave me her personal contact information.
The problem is that even though she was good looking with a great natural body I don't think that I would repeat with her in my next visit. There are other girls who I wish to enjoy. I know that when next I go to Sharks she would run straight to me. It will actually hurt me to refuse her offer of going to the room. How do you guys do it?