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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]How are Black Men, specifically from America are accepted by women in Colombia?

I'm mainly talking about light skin Colombians, I know there Black Colombians but just like going down to Brazil to bang Black Brazilians seems pointless to me.

I date all kinds of women but I've had problems with dating attractive Latinas here for some reason.

So I'm just wondering what is the general reaction you get?[/QUOTE]I'm also an African American male that loves light skinned Latinas. I've visited Medellin 4 times and will be returning September 11. I've noticed that a lot of the light skinned paisas that I've met through marriage agencies like A Foreign Affair don't seem interested in me. Some have even come right out and said my skin color was the reason they wouldn't date me. There's a misconception that life in America with a Black man will be miserable and we'll treat them worse than a Colombian man. A lot of it is based on the images they may see of a Black man when they watch American television. If we're not scoring a touchdown, slam dunking or rapping you see us in a wife beater and handcuffs. I've had more success with the paisas I've met that are from less privileged backgrounds, not as educated or professional and through mongering. That's how I met the girl that I'm presently seeing. The paisas that come from the upper class seem to be looking for the blond haired blue eyed White American dream. A Black man can find success with the light skinned paisas. You just have to know where to look for the ones that are interested in you.

Hi all,

Brand new here. I am hoping to start travelling to Colombia very soon. I have started to learn some Spanish and doing lots of reading on here, but few general questions I hope you veteran travellers can help

1. Romancelatina.com. I understand majority of the girls are working girls But is there a way to tell which girl is working girl and which is not? I do not want to ask a regular girl how much she charges per hour. What are some thing or questions you ask to determine?

2. Between Bogota / Medelline, where should a first timer stay? Does it matter or equally as good. I believe it is Bogota that weather is more hot

3. I know Spanish is important, but how much Espanol do I need to know before heading down, able to communicate in a full conversation, or some phrases are good enough to start? Do most people/girls know some basic English at least?

(for first trip, I would like to have like a guide before heading down. Have contacted few on Craigslist, but if I can meet girls from RomanceLatina, even better, no luck yet though)

4. I am Chinese. Is that a big deal, does it make a difference at all in Colombia?

Anything else anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated. There is a ton of stuff here to learn.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777]From what I've gathered from my extensive world travels(not just mongering)

And also being a minority(IE not white). I find that there is a sort of discrimination against "Dark Skinned" people in general. They see it sort of like

"You are a farmer and you work outside so you are dark"

I find this to be the case in Colombia too. The darker Colombians get a bit of the shaft as it were.

Also I read an article in one of the local paper that said the same thing pretty much.

Just my observations[/QUOTE]That's what I have heard as well, even read an article about a year ago.

Not saying there's a correlation but on some of the marriage agency sites, I notice that most of the Black men that make their way down to Colombia, Peru, etc, etc seem to hook up with darker skinned women or Black Latinas.

I generally date White Women, so I would extend that preference anywhere I went and one reason why I would go to Curitiba or Sao Paulo over Rio when I finally make it down to Brazil.

But with Colombia being very affordable, I wanted to give it a shot and the women can be neck breaking attractive.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]That's what I have heard as well, even read an article about a year ago.

Not saying there's a correlation but on some of the marriage agency sites, I notice that most of the Black men that make their way down to Colombia, Peru, etc, etc seem to hook up with darker skinned women or Black Latinas.

I generally date White Women, so I would extend that preference anywhere I went and one reason why I would go to Curitiba or Sao Paulo over Rio when I finally make it down to Brazil.

But with Colombia being very affordable, I wanted to give it a shot and the women can be neck breaking attractive.[/QUOTE]I have been to Colombia 2 times both to CTG. I am a US citizen with parents born in Mexico. I am fairly dark skin I guess, but my experiences have been very positive. I had no trouble pulling light skined girls. In my opinion as long as you are respectful and all about having a good time, it doesn't matter what the color of your skin is. Also on my way back to th states I met a black guy from New Jersey that was there with Loveme.com. He said he had a blast and said he ran out of condoms in the week he was there. So my advice just go ther with good intentions and you will be rewarded! Have a great time. I will be in MDE in Nov. If anybody is out there at that time hit me up. I will be bringing a few bottles of the best Tequila I can get my hand on at the Tequila Fest in Tijuana in Oct.

[QUOTE=Double]For the Most part, I think the latinas are looking for a man that knows how to carry himself, and that is financially secure.

Of course women are going to have physcal preferences, just like you have preferences but if you are able to meet then somehow you can kill her with kindness.

Take a Spanish, or dance class-while you are in Colombia.

Find an introduction site and try to cultivate a relationship online.

It does help to speak Spanish. If you become competent in Spanish that in it self is going to set you apart.

Now, I would not worry about one light skinned hooker turning you down, becuase there is one behind her that is good to go. Just don't insist, why insist on a hooker that does not want to go to the room. Not even by offering more-you will just have to put up with the attitude.

To end, I would like to say that it is not always race that keeps the ladies away, unless you have been told that by the lady you will never know. Until you try-holla![/QUOTE]Very good post. Discrimination exist's, but is this going to stop you from being who you are? Being were privileged and living in America, we sometime's feel all women are going to do flip's to be with us. We still have to offer something with money. Unless she is just a trick.

Please understand there are different cultural aspect's. For instance, my ex Dominicana who is darker than me got upset when I put my arm next to her's and said she is black. Should I get upset or try to figure out how she was brain washed? Just like you want her to understand being black in America, you have to understand her culture.

You overcome this by putting yourself forward in a presentable manner, instead of saying"I got money". Learn her culture and she will want to learn yours.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]That's what I have heard as well, even read an article about a year ago.

Not saying there's a correlation but on some of the marriage agency sites, I notice that most of the Black men that make their way down to Colombia, Peru, etc, etc seem to hook up with darker skinned women or Black Latinas.

I generally date White Women, so I would extend that preference anywhere I went and one reason why I would go to Curitiba or Sao Paulo over Rio when I finally make it down to Brazil.

But with Colombia being very affordable, I wanted to give it a shot and the women can be neck breaking attractive.[/QUOTE]"Date" is a questionable word and means just about everything on this sex forum which is 90% about paying for sex.

Are you looking looking for putas or is it that light skinned girls do not exist in the US or your home country therefor you are setting out to find women in other countries for marriage prospect or long term relationships due to the scarcity?

If you are looking for hookers 1 in 20 may avoid you but that will not a be prob - all money is green so to speak.

If you are looking for a girlfriend for a week while you are on vacation only the desperate will buy into that no matter what color your skin.

There is s level of prejudice and regionalism here and this has dated back to before television.

As funny as it sounds some parents would rather see their daughter with a dark skinned paisa than a lighter skinned costeño.

These days there is a slew of good looking 25-35 yo blond blue eyed foreigners who have money and speak spanish extremely well (German, Holland, Denmark and Swiss). The good girls are getting spoiled with tons of options in their dream guys not available just 5 years ago.

Remember Medellín is one city - the rest of the world is a big place with a lot of horny guys.

No use trying to figure everything out, just come down and get rolling, the ones that don't want you will make it clear.

[QUOTE=Maidenkj]The paisas that come from the upper class seem to be looking for the blond haired blue eyed White American dream. [/QUOTE]My experience is the lower class generally have the sueño mexicano, the lower middle class the sueño norte-americano, and the upper middle class the sueño europeo.

The upper class don't have any desire to leave Colombia apart from for regular holidays in their apartments in NY, London.

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]That's what I have heard as well, even read an article about a year ago.

Not saying there's a correlation but on some of the marriage agency sites, I notice that most of the Black men that make their way down to Colombia, Peru, etc, etc seem to hook up with darker skinned women or Black Latinas.

I generally date White Women, so I would extend that preference anywhere I went and one reason why I would go to Curitiba or Sao Paulo over Rio when I finally make it down to Brazil.

But with Colombia being very affordable, I wanted to give it a shot and the women can be neck breaking attractive.[/QUOTE]IMO opinion there has always seemed to be a global indoctrination in which mean and women crave those with lighter skin. Until recently when I began to read some books on neuroscience it was only then that I learned where this bias comes from. Seems that we are all programmed at an unconscious level to create patterns so we can better function in the world. The book explained how our brain innocuously associates what is good with white and what is negative with Black due to our worldly observations without us being consciously aware of it. This is only exasperated by the social dynamic that has been created in many cultures. As of right now there seems to not be any means of reversing this phenomena except for maybe we all identity and try to consciously control our biases. But that will never happen. Till then you just have to find the ones that can think above this irrational behavior. I have also noticed that if one hangs around with White guys that it seems that lighter skinned women are more responsive to you. As if on a subconscious level you are ok because you have White friends.

Even still I have seen many White men that still do not have access to the "upper class" just by being white. They may have access to more women overall but the end result seems like they always get fleeced by some crafty Asian, South American, or Russian woman. I figure what is the point of having more choices if the end result sucks.

[QUOTE=Double]Has anyone on the board ever heard of "el que no come burro no es hombre"?

I heard saw a video, and talked to a girlfriend about this and she confirmed it. It appears as if in the mountains of Cartegena in an effort to keep the ladies chaste the young men are encouraged to entertain the idea of having sex with donkeys.

Is this a wives tale or do they still encourage and or accept such things in the North of Colombia?[/QUOTE]It's true that in the more rural and poorer areas of the north coast, a lot of young men have their first sexual experience with a donkey (burro). I think it's a bit exaggerated but there's a video about this phenomena on vbs.tv The title of the clip is "Asses of the Caribbean" I shit you not! :) Just type that in the search box and check out the vid. Some of the boys that admit to doing it on the clip look no more than 10 or 11 years old!! There's a lot of Colombian jokes and internet cartoons about this phenomena.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]My experience is the lower class generally have the sueño mexicano, the lower middle class the sueño norte-americano, and the upper middle class the sueño europeo.

The upper class don't have any desire to leave Colombia apart from for regular holidays in their apartments in NY, London.[/QUOTE]I don't think very many people want to leave here.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]It's true that in the more rural and poorer areas of the north coast, a lot of young men have their first sexual experience with a donkey (burro). I think it's a bit exaggerated but there's a video about this phenomena on vbs.tv The title of the clip is "Asses of the Caribbean" I shit you not! :) Just type that in the search box and check out the vid. Some of the boys that admit to doing it on the clip look no more than 10 or 11 years old!! There's a lot of Colombian jokes and internet cartoons about this phenomena.[/QUOTE]It's very real.

[QUOTE=Gfechaser]IMO opinion there has always seemed to be a global indoctrination in which mean and women crave those with lighter skin. Until recently when I began to read some books on neuroscience it was only then that I learned where this bias comes from. Seems that we are all programmed at an unconscious level to create patterns so we can better function in the world. The book explained how our brain innocuously associates what is good with white and what is negative with Black due to our worldly observations without us being consciously aware of it. [/QUOTE]Opposites attract. I don't know if this stands for long-term partnerships, but my personal observations lead me to believe that whatever is strange, exotic, uncommon or rare, seems to be extremely attractive.

In Cuzco and other regions in Peru, locals cultivate their aboriginal image, contrary to mainstream canons of Western beauty. Instead of being tall and fair skinned, these small, brown men, with long black and greasy hair and furry upper lips seem seem to be a European woman's delight. You should see how gorgeous, young and well-to-do German and Dutch ladies fight over these guys, and even pay (not openly - some kind of "sponsorship" figure applies) to be fucked by them.

San Andres, as well as other islands in the Caribbean, hold witness to this tendency. The blackest men, far from the common stereotype of the better-off man (more rasta-like, easygoing beach dudes), get to fuck the blond broads.

Big men prefer petite ladies, Europeans and North Americans crave Latinas, African and Oriental babes, while their counterparts dream of blue eyes and close-to-white manes.

Simple economy: whatever is scarce is higly valued and consequently sought after; works for gold, chapagne, swiss watches, truffles and whatever kind of pussy you don't seem to be able to have. And so the world turns...

That's the sort of input I wanted.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]"Date" is a questionable word and means just about everything on this sex forum which is 90% about paying for sex.

Are you looking looking for putas or is it that light skinned girls do not exist in the US or your home country therefor you are setting out to find women in other countries for marriage prospect or long term relationships due to the scarcity?

If you are looking for hookers 1 in 20 may avoid you but that will not a be prob - all money is green so to speak.

If you are looking for a girlfriend for a week while you are on vacation only the desperate will buy into that no matter what color your skin.

There is s level of prejudice and regionalism here and this has dated back to before television.

As funny as it sounds some parents would rather see their daughter with a dark skinned paisa than a lighter skinned costeño.

These days there is a slew of good looking 25-35 yo blond blue eyed foreigners who have money and speak spanish extremely well (German, Holland, Denmark and Swiss). The good girls are getting spoiled with tons of options in their dream guys not available just 5 years ago.

Remember Medellín is one city - the rest of the world is a big place with a lot of horny guys.

No use trying to figure everything out, just come down and get rolling, the ones that don't want you will make it clear.[/QUOTE]Why put "Date" in quotations? lol

I use the word "date" as a replacement for a woman I'm seeing exclusively; non-pro, freebie, civilian whatever you wanna call it. I use P4P as a replacement for chasing women in bars and nightclubs.

I will come down, not to worry and thanks.

I was surprised to learn that the Valentine's Day in Colombia is in this month compared to what I knew to be in February. For you guys who have novias or pregagos in Colombia send them some flower or at least call them – Yes, I have one of those. Here is the info.

“ In most of South America the Día del amor y la amistad and the Amigo secreto ("Secret friend") are quite popular and usually celebrated together on the 14 of February (one exception is Colombia, where it is celebrated every third Saturday of September).– from Wikipedia”. Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day

This year, September 18, is the “Dia del Amor & Amistand en Colombia” – that means, you still have time.

I found these websites to send flowers, but experts who live in Colombia will know more about the options, and how big deal this is in Colombia:

[url]http://florcolombia.com/flores-a-colombia/enviar-flores-a-colombia.html[/url]
[url]http://www.daflores.com/colombia/[/url]