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Well said my Asian brother now let's get on with the hunting. where are the hoes? [QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Don't mean to disagree or agree with you, but IMHO:1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. Race does not counts, I have seen Asians having a 10 inches dick and Westerner having 3 inch. I would say.. it depends on person to person. But on the average, westerneer have larger or longer ones.2) Myth - asian men finish in 2min. Again here it depends on person to person, Race have nothing to do with Stamina and performance in Sex. Survey had shown that more westerners took Vitamin "V". 3) Fact - communication is key. Not being able to speak a common language is the biggest problem for non-japanese speakers entering most clubs. Bear in mind - most of the clubs in Japan stress 'play' over performance. So having good communication is important.Totally agree with this. In any country, communication is the key.4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. Which means they are usually drunk and rowdy. Which means the safety of the women is reduced. Of course Japanese guys get drunk and rowdy too. They are also declined entrance. But most of the customers are just average guys off of work, wanting to engage some fun play in safety and respect.No, most of the ladies working in such place have a misconception that Westerners are big and rough. As you said; the drunks and rowdy are already turned away at door steps, they do not even get to see the girls. If they are inside the shop, if given a choice the girls will chose Asian rather than westerners so to avoid the girls turning away the clients inside the shop (which is a turn off! and the client will never come again!) They will not allow foreigners at door steps. 5) Fact - 'H' oriented clubs, especially the service establishments are very organised by select groups. If you are not part of that group it's highly unlikely you would get a license to operate. (Yes - they are all licensed)Agreed6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.Agreed but you must not be drunk at door step!7) Fact - Japanese women love all sizes of men. This is not true: I spoke to lot of ladies in the line, they are afraid of large size. It is a misconception that larger size will hurts. But again it is also a misconception that smaller size is less preasurable.8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. Do not agree... Remember foreigners come to Japan for work are paid Expat salaries so they cannot be poor. And the girls knew that! But I hate to say this, in any country, it is always the Japanese who will spoilt the market! I have heard this from the girls many times before: "Japanese man, we like, because they are stupid; pay a lot, but do very little. Pay for LT, finish one time, go to sleep and ask us to go home." ==> Sorry don't mean to be racist here but these are true words from the ladies.I can see a lot of objections coming my way on my post but these are just my understanding from living in Japan for more than 5 years. I am a ABC (actually Half Japanese - mother is Japanese.) Finally IMHO: I think it is a sensitive topic about differences among races; so please to do use this forum to curse or undermind each other. Just exchange information and get on with our hunt!AG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Don't mean to disagree or agree with you, but IMHO:1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. Race does not counts, I have seen Asians having a 10 inches dick and Westerner having 3 inch. I would say.. it depends on person to person. But on the average, westerneer have larger or longer ones.2) Myth - asian men finish in 2min. Again here it depends on person to person, Race have nothing to do with Stamina and performance in Sex. Survey had shown that more westerners took Vitamin "V". 3) Fact - communication is key. Not being able to speak a common language is the biggest problem for non-japanese speakers entering most clubs. Bear in mind - most of the clubs in Japan stress 'play' over performance. So having good communication is important.Totally agree with this. In any country, communication is the key.4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. Which means they are usually drunk and rowdy. Which means the safety of the women is reduced. Of course Japanese guys get drunk and rowdy too. They are also declined entrance. But most of the customers are just average guys off of work, wanting to engage some fun play in safety and respect.No, most of the ladies working in such place have a misconception that Westerners are big and rough. As you said; the drunks and rowdy are already turned away at door steps, they do not even get to see the girls. If they are inside the shop, if given a choice the girls will chose Asian rather than westerners so to avoid the girls turning away the clients inside the shop (which is a turn off! and the client will never come again!) They will not allow foreigners at door steps. 5) Fact - 'H' oriented clubs, especially the service establishments are very organised by select groups. If you are not part of that group it's highly unlikely you would get a license to operate. (Yes - they are all licensed)Agreed6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.Agreed but you must not be drunk at door step!7) Fact - Japanese women love all sizes of men. This is not true: I spoke to lot of ladies in the line, they are afraid of large size. It is a misconception that larger size will hurts. But again it is also a misconception that smaller size is less preasurable.8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. Do not agree... Remember foreigners come to Japan for work are paid Expat salaries so they cannot be poor. And the girls knew that! But I hate to say this, in any country, it is always the Japanese who will spoilt the market! I have heard this from the girls many times before: "Japanese man, we like, because they are stupid; pay a lot, but do very little. Pay for LT, finish one time, go to sleep and ask us to go home." ==> Sorry don't mean to be racist here but these are true words from the ladies.I can see a lot of objections coming my way on my post but these are just my understanding from living in Japan for more than 5 years. I am a ABC (actually Half Japanese - mother is Japanese.) Finally IMHO: I think it is a sensitive topic about differences among races; so please to do use this forum to curse or undermind each other. Just exchange information and get on with our hunt!AG[/QUOTE]Please dont change the subject . Is not the asian man i am talking about . Japaneas man , and Korean man . The rest of asian man under gaijin category specialy Thai man have the bigest . I dont know where you got the statistics. But obiosly they are not talking about Japaneas and Korean man .they are about asian man . Regarding the 2 minute finishing time i have spoken to at least 100 bar girls in Thailand and 100% told me the same answer very small and 2 minutes.Regarding behavier the Japaneas man and Korean man are the one who treat working girls as used condoms and no respect at all for women , and talking about geting drunk.No one can drink like japaneas .and the superoirety filling of japaneas is the worst . Stop pretending to be what you are not . I am talking about majority of course every race have good or bad .

[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]Please dont change the subject . Is not the asian man i am talking about . Japaneas man , and Korean man . The rest of asian man under gaijin category specialy Thai man have the bigest . I dont know where you got the statistics. But obiosly they are not talking about Japaneas and Korean man .they are about asian man . Regarding the 2 minute finishing time i have spoken to at least 100 bar girls in Thailand and 100% told me the same answer very small and 2 minutes.Regarding behavier the Japaneas man and Korean man are the one who treat working girls as used condoms and no respect at all for women , and talking about geting drunk.No one can drink like japaneas .and the superoirety filling of japaneas is the worst . Stop pretending to be what you are not . I am talking about majority of course every race have good or bad .[/QUOTE]I hate to do this; it is turning into a debate now, but here it goes:Is not the asian man i am talking about . Japaneas man , and Korean man. Quote the post "1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. The difference really isn't that much -Black 6.89" (175 mm)Asian 5.33" (135 mm)"==> I have a problem with my English?Not to be protective on Japanese and Korean but "Spoke to at least 100 bar girls in Thailand and 100% told me the same answer very small and 2 minutes." ==> I lived in Thailand, Phillippines, Tokyo, HongKong, Vietnam and couple of other countries for period from 6 months to 6 years, all of us knows that words from girls cannot be trustable... most of time they say this to Non-Japanese/Korean to make us laugh or happy so that we will go back to them again. They tell me all the time about the Japanese 2 mins and short thing but when I told them that I am half Japanese they change their subject! "No one can drink like japaneas .and the superoirety filling of japaneas is the worst" = Yah... as there are lots of Drunk Japanese sleeping on the side walk every Satursday Morning along Shinjuku Kabukicho..... I say this again, Japanese or Korean or Gaijin, we are on this board for a purpose, information sharing on mongering. Time is better spent on find places than to writting discriminating statements about fellow members. Lets get on with the hunt!BTW: I don't have to endorse myself whether I am Gaijin or not, many fellow member who mongered with me will know.

Shibuya is better than Roppongi. Partied in both in Feb. Was cold but not too. Roppongi, you get harrassed by the Africans. Shibuya, there are places where the chinese girls hang out on the street. Prices vary between US 50 - US 150. They negotiate and you can probably get a massage and happy ending for less. It all depends. Whatever you do - haggle! It's not bad if all you want is a quick massage and to get off. Well, pretty straight forward and basic.Good luck.

[QUOTE=Japan Man]Our is small so what? japanese that finish in 2 mins is because they do not know how to enjoy sex! no GFE! meet me, give me a girl and I show you how to fuck her for 1 hour and I show you how my dick tear her pussy! You never see japan & korea porno movie? their dick is short? they come in 2 mins? Japanese man who come in 2 mins is a disgrace! So what if Japanese is drunk? I am sure many american and whiteman are far worst! so if we treat japan girl in fuzoku no respect so what? we pay money and they make us happy, we do not pay money to serve them, they serve us! what respect does they want? As long you are happy why you care if we have short dick or come fast? As asiangambler say: this board is for share information, get on it, why you use this board to pass racial comments?JMI think Asiangambler post is fair, every race have good and bad, every race have long and short, every person like cum long time or short time, as long as they are happy who cares? we are not[/QUOTE] I am not raciest as a matter of fact i am married to Japanese women for 25 years and she is wonderful person . i was basically confirming ( Lubricate It ) comments on the size issue . And i don't agree with your comments about treating the bar girls badly because you pay them as nonsense . You have to respect any one who is doing a job , she is a human being and doesn't matter what she chose to do for living as far as she doesn't hurt any one by doing that job.

JFC! I can't believe you guys are actually having a discussion about whose dick is bigger. Where the f*ck do you think you are...in a grade school playground at recess? It's amazing how easily people of one "race" are willing to generalize about people of a "different "race." If you got past 6th grade, you'll know that there is a LOT more variation WITHIN a so-called race than BETWEEN. In other words, any differences that exist between "races" are dwarfed and overwhelmed by those within a "race." Beyond all this bullshit about penis size, what really matters in evolutionary terms is the size of testicles (=sperm production) relative to body size.... penis size has nothing to do about how virile or fecund you are. If your sperm is weak or bad, then it DOES NOT matter if you are packing a 10 incher. Kapish? Get past this bullshit and let's get back to the topic. Jesus.

[QUOTE=Crypton]Get past this bullshit and let's get back to the topic. Jesus.[/QUOTE]Let this post marks the last of the topic; as I said: Let's get on with the hunt. This board to made to discuss about good and bad place for mongering and not about ourselves.Enjoy TokyoAG

Soujourn,Having lived in or extensively visited Japan for the last 20+ years, I've come to the conclusion that this is probably the most racist industrialized country in the world, like it or not. And I don't mean racist in such a negative context, either. There is no ethnic cleansing or cross burning going on here. Most of it stems from the homogeneity of the country rather than anything more insidious and it has more to do with attitudes rather than hatred. Just think about how foreigners are treated at major full-service hotels. Those hotels are setup to deal with foreigners. Contrast that to the fuzoku business. They are finely tuned to extract maximum value from your average Japanese mongerer. When foreigners attempt to partake in fuzoku, there is resistance, fair or not.Foreigners are treated with a great deal of respect as visitors but a great deal of skepticism, suspicion and fear when it comes to "things Japanese."There is a great deal of racial profiling going on and there is not much that can be done about it. It used to upset me until I understood the basis for it. When I finally realized that it was due to a lack of knowledge (i.e. ignorance) regarding how other cultures, races and groups are, everything fell into place. Now, I use it to my advantage. I can poke fun at myself for being a "foreigner" or "outsider" and it draws denials from Japanese who know me well. While I'm not "one of them," I am considered "OK" which means they have a handle on how I am.Stereotyping doesn't bother me. Your response is very accurate and I agree with it. I don't know why people get so upset about stereotyping. I stereotype Japanese for some of their behavior. It's my contention that when Aum gassed the subways, the Japanese behavior of being passive and not speaking out, not complaining and not making a big deal publicly of being uncomfortable led to many people being injured and a few dying. If it had happened on the NY subway, the Chicago El or the LA Metro, how long do you think Americans would have tolerated the coughing, breathing and vision difficulties and collective discomfort of everybody in the car? They would have been busting out of there, trust me. This is probably the most annoying behavior in the Japanese culture for me. How do you get a straight answer from a Japanese person? I know how to get one from a New Yorker, you just ask him and he'll tell you what he thinks.[QUOTE=Soujourn]Wow - I can't believe the predominant stereotyping going on here. If any of you just talk directly with the shop owners and women working you would know what the issues and myths are:1) Myth - asian men have small dicks. The difference really isn't that much -Black 6.89" (175 mm)Asian 5.33" (135 mm)Caucasian 6.22" (158 mm)Hispanic 6.15" (156 mm)Native American 5.66" (144 mm)2) Myth - asian men finish in 2min. I've seen many asian guys pound for hours - just like caucasian. And in fact, many recover from orgasm faster and go on tpo cum again and again. Why do you think many Pink Salon offer 2, 3 and even 4 shots? I bet not many guys here pull off a 3shot in 30min.3) Fact - communication is key. Not being able to speak a common language is the biggest problem for non-japanese speakers entering most clubs. Bear in mind - most of the clubs in Japan stress 'play' over performance. So having good communication is important.4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. Which means they are usually drunk and rowdy. Which means the safety of the women is reduced. Of course Japanese guys get drunk and rowdy too. They are also declined entrance. But most of the customers are just average guys off of work, wanting to engage some fun play in safety and respect.5) Fact - 'H' oriented clubs, especially the service establishments are very organised by select groups. If you are not part of that group it's highly unlikely you would get a license to operate. (Yes - they are all licensed)6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.7) Fact - Japanese women love all sizes of men. I've been with super petite women that could take a horse! And larger ones that were so tight, you could barely get a finger in. Alot of Japanese women prefer larger dick for pussy fucking and smaller dick for other play. They are very tuned into their sex play. There is little Judeo-christian guilt hampering their fun. They are picky and proactive about what they like and want.8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. Ganbatte!S.[/QUOTE]

Shit I leave the country for a week and I come back and see this shit.WILL YOU GUY`S STOP THROWING YOUR TOY`S OUT OF THE COT AND START PLAYING TOGETHER!!!!!!!!OR I`LL GET THE TAPE MEASURE OUT AND EMBARRASS YOU ALL!!!Dam pencil dicksTopos

I'd say he is making accurate observations based on his experience, not uninformed stereotypes.I agree with all but his #6.6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.I highly doubt any caucasian can be accepted at the same frequency no matter how fluent they are. However anyone of Asian background can fake out Japanese if they dress right, learn the right lingo and know how to mumble to cover any accent.

Lion,I have a friend who is almost perfectly fluent and looks Japanese, however he can't read Japanese very well. Some places have you fill out that little clipboard and it gives him some grief occasionally.[QUOTE=Lion]I'd say he is making accurate observations based on his experience, not uninformed stereotypes.I agree with all but his #6.6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local. If you also go with a Japanese friend - I guarantee you will be at nearly 100%.I highly doubt any caucasian can be accepted at the same frequency no matter how fluent they are. However anyone of Asian background can fake out Japanese if they dress right, learn the right lingo and know how to mumble to cover any accent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Soujourn]4) Fact - safety is important. Foreigners get a bad rap because they are usually visitors in the country. Which means they are usually partying. [/quote]Actually foreigners complain more thinking the can contact some consumer rights division and do not understand the Japanese culture. That's really it. What foreigners do in a normal polite way, is also misconstrued as rude. It's all a misunderstanding, so the Japanese only establishments only want their own. All male induced to keep them out.[QUOTE=Soujourn]6) Fact - If you can speak and read basic Japanese, your success to enter any establishment will increase nearly to the same level as Japanese local.[/quote]No. Upper level Japanese speakers will succeed at nearly the same level as Japanese locals. Basic Japanese gets only basic service and refusals. [QUOTE=Soujourn]8) Fact - Japanese men will pay more. They have more money, so why not? The bubble left ALOT of middle managers and executives at pretty much the high income levels. Few of the visitors to Japan have the same economic distribution. [/quote]Thank Ronald Reagan for that making the 231yen to the US dollar go down to 152, then it went further to 82. Fortunately, it should be 130 by July before it levels off to around 124 throughout 2006. I want 152 again. There'll be currency changes in 2007. Japan is a cash economy and we need more of that everywhere. However, recently, the market is creating bargains and deals with better looking babes. And those Chinese esute's had better shape up with some naked girls for 10,000 yen or less.Okay guys. Enough. Looking for 100% nude Korean places in Tokyo with pretty girls with table wash for 10,000 yen all in. Anyone know?Gyaos

[QUOTE=Gyaos]Actually foreigners complain more thinking the can contact some consumer rights division and do not understand the Japanese culture. That's really it. What foreigners do in a normal polite way, is also misconstrued as rude. It's all a misunderstanding, so the Japanese only establishments only want their own. All male induced to keep them out.No. Upper level Japanese speakers will succeed at nearly the same level as Japanese locals. Basic Japanese gets only basic service and refusals. Thank Ronald Reagan for that making the 231yen to the US dollar go down to 152, then it went further to 82. Fortunately, it should be 130 by July before it levels off to around 124 throughout 2006. I want 152 again. There'll be currency changes in 2007. Japan is a cash economy and we need more of that everywhere. However, recently, the market is creating bargains and deals with better looking babes. And those Chinese esute's had better shape up with some naked girls for 10,000 yen or less.Okay guys. Enough. Looking for 100% nude Korean places in Tokyo with pretty girls with table wash for 10,000 yen all in. Anyone know?Gyaos[/QUOTE]Hello, I think those comments are posted by Soujourn not me...

Just a quick note to thank those who offered advice about my first trip to JP. With little time I followed the advice and used Asian Mystique. Very efficient and helpful and I managed to see two girls during my time there, both excellent GFE's. Nick at AM was really helpful. Prices were high but worth it.I found that late in the evening was not always the best time to call as things seemed to be winding down a bit - one girl decided it was too late to go out again at about 11. I had hoped for some uniform fun but it seems that the girls come from their homes and would have to travel to a central location first to get the gear, so that never happened. Next time I will start earlier. And there will be a next time.....Many thanks again.Whizzkid

[QUOTE=Asian Gambler]Hello, I think those comments are posted by Soujourn not me...[/QUOTE]Yes, that's correct. I made the fix.Gyaos.