Re: Pattaya experiences Part 3
Hi again,
At Horatio, at Allover, at Axiata, at Uncle Volodya, at Mr Enternational, at Syzygies, thanks so much for your comments. Absolutely agree with your general sentiments. And that was the intention of my post. To give some insight to the less experienced and also a warning about falling in love with bar girls.
At Syzygies, I specifically referred to the earning potential of cute girls in popular / busy gogos, the type I have been going for, who have no trouble earning what is a tremendous sum of money. Most of them indeed have started this job because they needed money and have children / parents / siblings to support. But I would contend a small portion of what they earn can easily take care of a family in rural Thailand. They are no longer desperate for money, but rather they are obsessed with money. The key difference I was trying to highlight! And I do accept this is a generalisation, not the obsession part, but the varying circumstances.
If from my stories it came across like I was trying to get something for nothing, that was definitely not it. Is it not fair to say the "honey" in "no money, no honey" refers to sex? Let's be serious here, as a general rule you are not paying for the girl's time, you are paying for sex. For ST she will try to run out the moment sex is finished. Even in soapies, where they promise a 1.5 hour experience, same deal.
Both girls in my stories told me they liked me, they are alone and are very sad to be alone. Doesn't matter if it was a lie, just taking them at their word. I am simply pointing out their own internal inconsistency between words and actions.
The first one said she spent her birthday alone. So, I did something for her. In terms of her time, well, it was the end of the night, barfined her just before close, and she didn't spend the night entertaining me, she got some presents, she slept, she got free lunch. Very likely what she would have done otherwise, minus the presents and the free lunch!
If she felt she wanted to get something out of me, she did. It was not just flowers and chocolates, which may be considered worthless, but also presents that could have been easily sold if she so chose. And hey, if it was not enough then she could have made up some story where she urgently needed 1-2000 or whatever. But 6000? That is more than the LT price at her bar! Who wanted something for nothing.
The other girl, said she was looking for something serious, saw her on several trips, and each time she refused to go barfine, but she met with me outside work, no money exchanged. When I finally convinced her to come with me, I did not expect it would be free. What I wrote before was: *if* she didn't ask for money, then I would have been intrigued. That's all. My problem was she asked for LT money after ST, and she even asked for 6000 when LT is 5000!
Why put in so much effort with me if she was just after a standard payday? I wanted to take her out the first time I met her, and really each time I saw her in the bar, she said no. Again, only looking for logical consistency with her previous words and actions. (Yes, yes, stupid thing to look for in women!
At Horatio et al, in my opinion I was not trying to change the rules of the game, but was still playing well within the rules and giving the girls the opportunity to put their proverbial money where their mouths were. Did I expect anything different? No. But I am always prepared to be surprised.
What is the conclusion? Despite not being desperate for money, despite what they might say, or even how they might feel (at Horatio), those girls will be incapable of not hustling you. Perhaps they think the money they are asking is nothing for you but so important for them! They forget they are no longer desperate for it and possibly never considered they might just earn more than you!
Changing tack here, the main thing I was hoping to get some insight into was the issue with the quality of the experience in the bedroom. Thanks at Uncle Volodya for some pointers. Where can I get some lookers who are also dirty? A lady on the street and a * in the bedroom! So far it has mostly been a * on the street and a lady in the bedroom. Terrible combo!
I should explain my comment about the goal being the experience, not the sex. What I meant was the reason I enjoy Thailand so much is the party atmosphere, the ability to go out, have some drinks, enjoy some tomfoolery, and then go back with a cute girl who has been teasing you all night. The sex at 2 am is the culmination of the experience that started at 8 pm. This is exactly what I want the sex to be, the climactic final scene of a very enjoyable movie. But instead, most of the time I get the equivalent of the lights coming on in the cinema every two minutes during the finale and someone loudly announcing "this is only a movie"!
If you haven't read my previous post, this is in reference to the girls complaining about everything when they get to the room. Not all girls, but the majority. Even if I ignore them and do what I want, I don't actually get what I want, because the mood is destroyed.
Girls' finances and other things
On Ko Larn with Malagasy girl. I'd hoped Tien beach would be less plagued by speedboats and jetskis than Samae beach but there wasn't much difference. I hope Thailand's beaches are more than just one big noise and fumes experiment. Swimming close to the rocks to escape the nuisance I cut one finger, later one toenail on something razor-sharp (corals? Urchins?).
After lunch my girl had insisted on making a fuss with the waitress because we'd been served squid instead of the fish we'd ordered. From what I could gather later the waitress jibed back by asking the Malagasy why "a pretty girl like her" was with "an old man" like myself, which was tantamount to telling her straight to her face that she was a wh*re. My girl reportedly answered "because he's got money". The coolest answer possible under the circumstances.
My girl told me she made close to 4000 EUR a month in Pattaya during the tourist season. During the rainy season she preferred to work in Dubai where she could make 3 times as much. "An Irishman wanted me as his girlfriend for 2000 bath / day", she said. "But I declined telling him it would only be a deal if he gave me 5000 bath / day or was serious about marrying me".
Back at LK Empress the sex was going well until the condom turned up full of blood. Gave her her 2000 bath for her to leave. Before leaving she chattered at some length on Whattsapp in her own mother tongue with someone she described as "her boss". Her boss was the person who'd facilitaded the visas etc. Her boss was now in Malaysia. Her boss turned out to be a woman of respectable age (not a tattooed 20 year-old stud).
Off to soi 6 to try and put the Viagra to good use. The only creatures there who produced some tingling in my groins, at least from a distance, were LBs. Ended up with a 800 bath BJ / HJ at King Kong's.
