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[QUOTE=PuteNut;2678839]Exactly, so why not print your own ;)
I started to check around here in Pattaya if they can find a Thai policy that fits. If checks are sloppy in Phils, all I need is a policy that looks OK to BKK checkin staff, right? Is there anyone aboard who did the BKK-MNL route with experience of BKK airport scrutiny?[/QUOTE]The only real concern is if you get caught. Deported and black-listed.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2678842]The only real concern is if you get caught. Deported and black-listed.[/QUOTE]Yah and it's not very desirable to be undesirable. There must be a smart solution to this idiotic requirement.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2678864]Yah and it's not very desirable to be undesirable. There must be a smart solution to this idiotic requirement.[/QUOTE]Not only getting caught at Immigration. Imagine in-country if you caught Covid, or had any other health problem that landed you in the hospital. "Sir, your traveler's medical insurance please?" You hand over your fake, they call your fake insurance company to confirm coverage, or such. Busted and on your way home permanently. Or Thailand.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2678888] Busted and on your way home permanently. Or Thailand.[/QUOTE]Right, and it's not worth it to risk this over a few measly bluenotes. But why the lethargic response from Philippine insurance companies? Their Thai equivalents quickly launched streamlined products that you can purchase online with a few clicks. I got my 35-page Thai PDF policy within a few minutes.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2676953]Thanks DD for pointing out that "upscale Filipina career girls" are not synonymous with the P4 P variety most guys on this board appear to seek. Filipina doctors, lawyers, nurses and business executives really aren't looking for a few thousand pesos from random foreigners, many of whom would not be allowed into the family house. Really upscale Filipinas don't go on most dating apps, don't care about foreigners, take months to get to know, and would be offended at the notion that somehow they're available to the casual punter. It should come as no surprise that there's a class / education structure here and those from the upper middle and upper socio-economic realms are, in general, not easily accessible to the normal herds of horny foreigners trolling online and in bars. That's not to disparage guys who do; it's merely stating a fact of life.[/QUOTE]I think that a green card is pretty good bait for a foreigner to lure a Filipina. As much wherewithal as a middle class or upper class Filipina may have, she still has a Philippine passport which won't get her into many places. A Filipina MD would love the opportunity to practice in the USA. There's a Starbucks outside of the Angeles Foundation Medical School. That's a good place to meet your doctor wife.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2678910]Right, and it's not worth it to risk this over a few measly bluenotes. But why the lethargic response from Philippine insurance companies? Their Thai equivalents quickly launched streamlined products that you can purchase online with a few clicks. I got my 35-page Thai PDF policy within a few minutes.[/QUOTE]Excellent question. In addition to the lack of Phils companies streamlined (medical-only) products, many outside companies don't offer such. And those that do charge exorbitant prices (see pic for a 30-day medical-only policy quote). It took hours of looking online (and emailing insurance companies back / forth to force them to admit that they offer a medical-only option). One would have expected any number of pinoy companies to have offered such a quick, easy, and profitable item. Below is an example of an experience that I had with one company (of several) , mostly thru email:
1) On their website, I asked for a quote for $50,000 medical-only insurance.
2) Their emailed response from 'Foreign Traveler expert' Jane: Items M (medical), O, P, Q, S, T, and V: 30 days, $2200.
3) My response: Sharpen your pencil please. I ordered on the website a quote for item M only.
4) Response from Jane: "OK, items M (medical), O, P, Q, and S: 30 days, $568".
5) My response: Sharpen your pencil please. I ordered on the website a quote for item M only.
6) Jane: "OK, items M (medical) and O (medical transportation): 30 days, $468".
7) My response: Nevermind. Too expensive, and I don't need the transportation item ($250,000 coverage). You are wasting my time.
8) Jane: "OK medical only: 30 days, $368".
9) My response: Too expensive. Other companies charge much less. Do you have a lower-priced option for 30 days, $50 k medical?
10) Jane: "No sir".
Bajesus! Like pulling teeth to get them down to that price, which is also too high (found it for about 1/3 of that price elsewhere).
Here is one with reasonable prices. Thanks to the guy who provided this.
[URL]https://www.squaremouth.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2679004]Here is one with reasonable prices. Thanks to the guy who provided this.
[URL]https://www.squaremouth.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]It is a minefield. Do not think just because you have the insurance they will be cover admission to hospitals, quarantine etc. First you pay, get the bill and then hope to get reimbursed by the insurance company.
This is a stupid rule. It was put in place by many countries before but now they have withdrawn that requirement for vaccinated persons.
I was talking to some people in Philippines and they all said nothing will change before the elections. I believe it is in end of May.
It is possible USA will withdraw testing requirements by the end of April. Cambodia is fully open without restrictions.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2679023]It is a minefield. [/QUOTE]Concur! It has been a blizzard of misinformation.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2679023]Do not think just because you have the insurance they will be cover admission to hospitals, quarantine etc. First you pay, get the bill and then hope to get reimbursed by the insurance company.[/QUOTE]Do you mean [URL]squaremouth.com[/URL]? Or alternately do you mean all of said insurance policies? Board members here have already used it.*
[QUOTE=Sammon;2679023]This is a stupid rule.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. Why will they make me purchase a policy separate from my own normal health insurance? My current policy re-imburses my medical expenses while overseas (it says so in the policy, my insurance refuses to deal with overseas medical providers). Why must I purchase a separate policy that will also only re-imburse me for expenses?
The premise for the insurance is that the Phils government does not want to be on the hook for tourists hospital bills, should he not be able to pay at the hospital (which I have seen happen in real time). Immigration has no idea if you can afford to pay for medical expenses when you enter the country, hence I understand the need to see a policy. But that does not hold up to scrutiny if your policy is a client-reimbursed-later policy, as the tourist might not be able to pay at the hospital / Q hotel in the first place. The premise only holds up to scrutiny if the policy pays direct to the hospital / provider.
Do any of the recent arrival gents know if their policy is 1) customer re-imburse, or 2) pays direct to provider?
* Just read the fine print in some of the policies. Reimbursement-only:
[I][B]Emergency Medical can reimburse the costs to treat a medical emergency during a trip.[/B]
What does Emergency Medical cover?
EMERGENCY ACCIDENT & SICKNESS MEDICAL EXPENSE BENEFIT
Benefits will be paid for Medical Expenses incurred by You, up to the Maximum Benefit Amount shown in the Schedule of Benefits, subject to the following:
a. Sickness must first commence or manifest itself and Injury must first occur while on Your Trip;
b. only Medical Expenses incurred by You during Your Trip will be reimbursed. Medical Expenses incurred after You return from Your Trip are not covered;
c. benefits payable as a result of incurred Medical Expenses will only be paid after benefits have been paid under any other valid and collectible insurance in effect for You or in accordance with a provision in jurisdictions where excess coverage provisions are not permitted.[/I]
Most of the places and restaurants are requiring temperature checks and vaccination cards. Most vaccinated Filipinos have the cards with a QR code. QR code is download on their cellphones or in photos. Most places have a QR reader so no lines are backed up.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2679285]Most of the places and restaurants are requiring temperature checks and vaccination cards. Most vaccinated Filipinos have the cards with a QR code. QR code is download on their cellphones or in photos. Most places have a QR reader so no lines are backed up.[/QUOTE]I don't know your location in the country, but your generalization should not include Davao as I've never been asked for my vaccination cards, and most of the places I frequent no longer bother with temperature checks. There are no standardized vaccination cards in the country and each major locale seems to have developed its own version; some have QR codes and some do not. The QR readers that "most places" have, at least here in Davao, are for a specific app that is used for track and trace and contains no vaccine information. There is a VaxCertPH QR Code-based site that does have vaccination information, but I've never, not once, seen it required for entry into any establishment though I have it on my phone.
Please, when you make these sweeping generalizations, none of which apply to Davao, make sure you ground them in terms of location as obviously what you're saying isn't true everywhere in the country.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2679362]I don't know your location in the country, but your generalization should not include Davao as I've never been asked for my vaccination cards, and most of the places I frequent no longer bother with temperature checks. There are no standardized vaccination cards in the country and each major locale seems to have developed its own version; some have QR codes and some do not. The QR readers that "most places" have, at least here in Davao, are for a specific app that is used for track and trace and contains no vaccine information. There is a VaxCertPH QR Code-based site that does have vaccination information, but I've never, not once, seen it required for entry into any establishment though I have it on my phone.
Please, when you make these sweeping generalizations, none of which apply to Davao, make sure you ground them in terms of location as obviously what you're saying isn't true everywhere in the country.
GE.[/QUOTE]In Philippines people and places make their own rules. If it is private business establishments I am sure they can. Problem is government does not specify clear guidelines like here in USA. Oh well, if one place does not want your money there will always be someone else.
Same with the girls.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2679285]Most of the places and restaurants are requiring temperature checks and vaccination cards. Most vaccinated Filipinos have the cards with a QR code. QR code is download on their cellphones or in photos. Most places have a QR reader so no lines are backed up.[/QUOTE]My experience is only limited to where I have visited so far and does not reflect elsewhere.
I'll be back in the phils at the end of April and pursuant to that, I thought I'd check the requirements for entry even though I just went through that rigmarole recently.
And, lo and behold, on the Philippine airline website, it now says that an Antigen (rapid) test taken within 24 hours of your departure is acceptable, OR you can present the RT PCR test which can be taken within 48 hours, which was the only option until recently. This, if true, is a major improvement because the RT tests are expensive.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2679660]My experience is only limited to where I have visited so far and does not reflect elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Some caveats. This info is only for the places that I visited in Manila, and during specific times (depending on ECQ or Alert Level strictness at the time). When the case / death rates went up, so does the Alert Level strictness. At certain times, all indoor restos (that were open, keep in mind many closed and have remained closed) would suddenly require the vax info. For myself and everyone in Manila, that has your name, Brgy, picture, vax dates (and brand), and your unique QR code. It was required to enter indoor restos (outdoor, or indoor / outdoor open-air places, seemed to be immune from that). Most places were fine just seeing it as you walked in the door, as long as the pic looked like the holder. Some places scanned the QR code, others didn't. Some places temp-checked, others didn't. Every indoor resto that was open during those times required at least viewing the vax info. The locals seemed to know when it was about to start, and stop, before I did. The guards at my building would often inform me that it was coming soon, and would inform me as a matter of courtesy.
You can easily screen capture your vax record, so you don't need to log in and pull it up each time. Or you can take a pic of your vax card if you have a paper copy. On only 1 occasion did I see anyone (a pinoy couple) have a paper vax card. I saw the lady's card as we were waiting in line to enter. It was like my electronic version, without her pic and QR code. The employee checking the vax info at the door made them produce separate ID (with pic) to prove that they were in fact the vaxxed individuals.
This would usually happen for a 2 (or 3) week period of higher ECQ or Alert Level, then drop back down a level and they would stop checking vax cards. Interestingly, you only had to show your vax record in Starbucks and Coffee Bean coffee shops at the counter when ordering food. Nobody was checking at the entrances. You could walk in, walk about the place, look at the foods in the counter, sit with a friend, do anything other than order. Nobody would check or ask about your vax status.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2679733]I'll be back in the phils at the end of April and pursuant to that, I thought I'd check the requirements for entry even though I just went through that rigmarole recently.
And, lo and behold, on the Philippine airline website, it now says that an Antigen (rapid) test taken within 24 hours of your departure is acceptable, OR you can present the RT PCR test which can be taken within 48 hours, which was the only option until recently. This, if true, is a major improvement because the RT tests are expensive.[/QUOTE]It was true when I arrived March 16th.
Good news that the PI accepts rapid tests.
Some bad news for New York residents. As PAL cannot go through Russian airspace, Manila-bound flights from NY now stop in Vancouver and take 20 hours instead of 17. The return flight from MNL to JFK is unaffected. However the prices are still sky high. $1935 are / t! I decided to try Qatar airways which goes through Doha and takes 23 hours but was only $1355.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2679911]Good news that the PI accepts rapid tests.
Some bad news for New York residents. As PAL cannot go through Russian airspace, Manila-bound flights from NY now stop in Vancouver and take 20 hours instead of 17. The return flight from MNL to JFK is unaffected. However the prices are still sky high. $1935 are / t! I decided to try Qatar airways which goes through Doha and takes 23 hours but was only $1355.[/QUOTE]Qatar also had a flight direct Doha into Clark. Hmm, I wonder if they still do.
I also recall a hot bar girl that scored big time landing herself a Qatar pilot. Soon after I was ghosted and no way I was getting access to that tight pussy when she was flying business class for free on his flights. Hard to compete with that but I wonder if she's back on the bar scene in AC now.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2679911]Good news that the PI accepts rapid tests.
Some bad news for New York residents. As PAL cannot go through Russian airspace, Manila-bound flights from NY now stop in Vancouver and take 20 hours instead of 17. The return flight from MNL to JFK is unaffected. However the prices are still sky high. $1935 are / t! I decided to try Qatar airways which goes through Doha and takes 23 hours but was only $1355.[/QUOTE]Regarding Doha, I see that Qatar are still offering the direct flight into Clark. Might save you some traffic time if you are going to AC anyway.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2680274]Regarding Doha, I see that Qatar are still offering the direct flight into Clark. Might save you some traffic time if you are going to AC anyway.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm taking that flight from Qatar to DOH (Layover 5 hours) then onto CRK in 2 weeks. Heard Qatar isn't too shabby either; supposedly one of the best rated airlines out there.
Came to Boracay with a friend for a few days. Stayed in Henann Lagoon Resort, station 2 area. From walking around some on the beach I didn't see any girls available. Not sure where the hot spots are.
The hotel is very nice and a good value for the price.
Probably best to bring your own pussy here. Seen a few foreigners with their Pinay GF here.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2681030]Came to Boracay with a friend for a few days. Stayed in Henann Lagoon Resort, station 2 area. From walking around some on the beach I didn't see any girls available. Not sure where the hot spots are.
The hotel is very nice and a good value for the price.
Probably best to bring your own pussy here. Seen a few foreigners with their Pinay GF here.[/QUOTE]I concur.
To ensure an enjoyable trip bring your own tried and tested girl.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2681030]Came to Boracay with a friend for a few days. Stayed in Henann Lagoon Resort, station 2 area....
Probably best to bring your own pussy here. Seen a few foreigners with their Pinay GF here.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately yes. You actually need some skills to pick up the girls there. Could try tinder as that worked out well for me while stuck there.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10676821/British-drugs-kingpin-faces-LIFE-Philippines-hell-hole-jail.html[/URL]
This expat won't be posting for a while and his wife won't be doing short time any time soon. They are in prison, though it could be argued, the zoo might be a better place.
Amazing and sad what expat shit SE Asia draws to itself.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2681515][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10676821/British-drugs-kingpin-faces-LIFE-Philippines-hell-hole-jail.html[/URL]
This expat won't be posting for a while and his wife won't be doing short time any time soon. They are in prison, though it could be argued, the zoo might be a better place.
[/QUOTE]The "Wall and Abejo all dressed and out to dinner at a US diner in Makati, Manila" certainly looks familiar. Is that place still operating after covid?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2681515][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10676821/British-drugs-kingpin-faces-LIFE-Philippines-hell-hole-jail.html[/URL]
This expat won't be posting for a while and his wife won't be doing short time any time soon. They are in prison, though it could be argued, the zoo might be a better place.
Amazing and sad what expat shit SE Asia draws to itself.[/QUOTE]Your hate of expats getting real old, go post your hate of expats on tripadvisor.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2681564]Your hate of expats getting real old, go post your hate of expats on tripadvisor.[/QUOTE]Be nice. Someone needs a hug 🤗 :
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2680339]Like X Partan or whatever the dog's name is, you are an American simpleton. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2677774]You are most likely a moron.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2677426]I am not wasting my time arguing with you as you are not worth it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2676641]Tell me something I don't know. Zelensky, a clown by profession.... [/QUOTE]And the list goes on.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2681573]Be nice. Someone needs a hug 🤗 :
And the list goes on.[/QUOTE]PM has a real dislike of Americans. I can't say be*tch or kunt on the Board, but anyone here can call the French, Brits, or Americans stupid morons (or Nazi's -- see below). Repeatedly. Apparently xenophobia is allowed on the Board.
Interestingly he hasn't told us what country he is from.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2680339]To repeat: you are American and therefore stupid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2677774]As you are American. You are most likely a moron. USA should get out of Guam, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Texas, New Mexico, California and that is for starters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2677426]You are American, today's equivalent of a 1945 German Nazi. The moral high ground is not for oyu.
You are simply an American mercenary.
The emigration you speak of is part of the American exploitative way. The solution is to kick the USA out of Europe. Hopefully, Russia will soon move things up a few gears. Not a good time to be a Nazi in Mariupol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2677040]Most of Asia, the Lev ant (which the US destroyed) and Africa (which the US rape) are watching, many wondering if Americans will be turned on the way Germans were after 1945.
American expansionism is being blocked in Ukraine. That is the first necessary but not sufficient condition. Western Europe is going to take a massive hit because of US / NATO meddling. "Putin" can only be blamed so long.
No time to squander wrestling with American and their Fox News / CNN / Coca cola injections.[/QUOTE]These are just from the Stupid Shit in Kiev thread. You can find more of his fear of America in the Colombian threads:
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2673198]Many pretend mongers here married hookers. Don't knock it. Most of you, being American riff raff, will not have read Georges Simenon[/QUOTE]
Pattaya has a large expat criminal "community". This becomes important to you if you venture into one of their bares, such as the one the Chelsea Head Hunters and their molls ran. The Philippines is, from my earlier post, obviously seen as a soft touch by violent criminals, British in this case. Such information is important and can save you significant hospital bills or your family, mega bucks to ship your body home.
I fail to see what my low opinion of American serial killers has to do with that. I try not to check this area too much as there are too many cum pics; I am having breakfast now and prefer not to think about sickos who need to share their cum pics.
The Stupid Shit threads are actually good, except for those infested with Americans. The Thai one is particularly good as it stays on focus.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2681545]The "Wall and Abejo all dressed and out to dinner at a US diner in Makati, Manila" certainly looks familiar. Is that place still operating after covid?[/QUOTE]Its the Filling Station on Burgos. I ate there in February. It was good.
Thanks to the Board member who passed this along. Youtube video done by pinay Jennifer Terri, on how to fill out the required Phils entry One Health form online.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzAA0BHhgVk[/URL]
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10683415/Moment-Briton-facing-life-Manila-jail-attacked-revellers-wife-tried-drag-away.html[/URL]
The Daily Mail has updated this story. The video is quite shocking in that this Union Jack expat was allowed get away with it. I peruse that paper online as it is free. When they have relevant stories on Phils or Pattaya, I post them. The main thing to me is safety as I know how to put my penis into women's orifices.
This story, to me, is very important. How did a London thug manage to run a criminal gang in Manila? I know Ossie gangsters had / have scenes going in the (distant) past but this guy just rolled in like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Why did the local gangsters allow him to get established? Why did they not just waste him?
There was an Ossie thug rolled up in Pattaya some recent years ago extorting hookers. I am not sure how he eventually got on but there were other ex pat gangsters who were all wiped out one night, Night of the Long Knives style.
I have never gone into those blow job bars in Patpong, one reason being I did not want to meet scum like this Jack Expat. I have met scum like this in both Angeles and Pattaya. They have their own networks. When I come across them, I like to retreat, m report and retaliate. It amazes me the bouncers in the video did not go in harder. Not my immediate problem as I like to avoid such situations but it is important to know what expat Jacks pollute the seas we swim in.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2682066][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10683415/Moment-Briton-facing-life-Manila-jail-attacked-revellers-wife-tried-drag-away.html[/URL]
The Daily Mail has updated this story. The video is quite shocking in that this Union Jack expat was allowed get away with it. I peruse that paper online as it is free. When they have relevant stories on Phils or Pattaya, I post them. The main thing to me is safety as I know how to put my penis into women's orifices.
This story, to me, is very important. How did a London thug manage to run a criminal gang in Manila? I know Ossie gangsters had / have scenes going in the (distant) past but this guy just rolled in like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Why did the local gangsters allow him to get established? Why did they not just waste him?
There was an Ossie thug rolled up in Pattaya some recent years ago extorting hookers. I am not sure how he eventually got on but there were other ex pat gangsters who were all wiped out one night, Night of the Long Knives style.
I have never gone into those blow job bars in Patpong, one reason being I did not want to meet scum like this Jack Expat. I have met scum like this in both Angeles and Pattaya. They have their own networks. When I come across them, I like to retreat, m report and retaliate. It amazes me the bouncers in the video did not go in harder. Not my immediate problem as I like to avoid such situations but it is important to know what expat Jacks pollute the seas we swim in.[/QUOTE]And his lady is not really a beauty. But matching to a gangster:
[URL]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/04/09/56194241-10683415-image-m-33_1649062025680.jpg[/URL]
[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2682413]And his lady is not really a beauty. But matching to a gangster:
[URL]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/04/09/56194241-10683415-image-m-33_1649062025680.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]She is OK in a kind of Makati call girl way. That said, she and Scully's women stand as warnings these broken babes are dangerous. I can see how she thought she was made meeting this made guy. For me and Tom Hanks, it means Run Pedro, run.
Some info for those who might be utilizing LAX for overseas travel, regarding the mandatory Phils inbound covid tests.
[URL]https://www.airport-technology.com/news/lax-pcr-covid-19-testing/[/URL]
[B]Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA) in the US announced that Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) added a new polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test to its Covid-19 testing options.
Developed by Visby, the new test provides the results in less than an hour.
The PCR test, which costs $199, can be found at the Tom Bradley International Terminal and at ticket counters C01-C05 on the Upper/Departures Level.
In addition to PCR tests, there are other Covid-19 tests that are being offered for sale at several locations throughout the airport.
Depending on the location, these tests provide results in either three to five hours or within 24 hours.
Passengers can also get the $80 nasal-swab antigen tests at Terminal 6 and the results will be available in 30 to 60 minutes.
Additionally, the airport also offers $125 PCR tests at the Tom Bradley International Terminal and Terminal 2 and provides results in less than 24 hours.[/B]
Another company also provides testing in Torrance (20-25 minutes south of LAX). They do fast turn-around RATs and also PCR tests (as little as 45 minutes for PCR, but pricey at $250, and about 12-hour results for $150). Additionally they have a mobile unit that will come to your place / hotel ($50-$150 extra travel fee):
[URL]https://www.completecovidtest.com/torrance-lax/[/URL]
I find these prices are typical for needed fast-result tests. There are many pharmacies that test, but they tout 24-48 hour results. This is not fast enough for a country (ie Phils) that demands you get tested no more than 48 hours prior to your flight. As an example, if your flight is Saturday morning at 1 am, and your PCR test at the local pharmacy is on Thursday at 9 am, you might get your test results on Saturday at 8 or 9 am, several hours after your flight departed. You can not get the test done at the local pharmacy on Wednesday evening near the pharmacy's closing time of 7 pm, as that time is more than 48 hours prior to your flight departure time.
An alternative is to get a RAT within 24 hours prior to your flight.
If other gents from Aus or London have gotten their tests, it might be good for you to tell us the location (or website link) where you got yours.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2682475]If other gents from Aus or London have gotten their tests, it might be good for you to tell us the location (or website link) where you got yours.[/QUOTE]My plan is to use an airport service which offers "Express pre-departure COVID test results are returned within 90 minutes" for AUD79. [URL]https://www.histopath.com.au/locations/airport[/URL].
In my case I'll be doing the test at BNE international, then flying domestically to Sydney to board the international flight.
I'm currently unclear if I can complete the check in and pass through before the result comes through which I assume they will email.
As I am still a few weeks a way from departure and knowing the fluid arrangements of Ph rules I haven't narrowed down the fine points.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2682635]My plan is to use an airport service which offers "Express pre-departure COVID test results are returned within 90 minutes" for AUD79. [URL]https://www.histopath.com.au/locations/airport[/URL].
In my case I'll be doing the test at BNE international, then flying domestically to Sydney to board the international flight.
I'm currently unclear if I can complete the check in and pass through before the result comes through which I assume they will email.[/QUOTE]You should be able to arrive at BNE, two hours earlier than you would normally arrive. That would give you enough time to get the results back?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2682469]She is OK in a kind of Makati call girl way. That said, she and Scully's women stand as warnings these broken babes are dangerous. I can see how she thought she was made meeting this made guy. For me and Tom Hanks, it means Run Pedro, run.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10690923/British-cocaine-baron-attacks-reveller-POOL-BALL-Manila-bar-weeks-arrest.html[/URL]
Some further updates today with classics from the wife "Speaking from a prison facility, Abejo said: 'he's good to me. He doesn't hurt me. In the nightclub there was a man who pushed me. My husband was angry.
'My husband had an argument with him and that's how the fight started. I didn't know he had a gun. I didn't see that. '.
Asked about her husband's reign of terror attacking locals, she said: 'I don't know about that. I don't go to bars with him. I stay at home. We have one child together and Darren's good to me. '.
Can't see Secret Door being added to my list of must go places.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2682771]You should be able to arrive at BNE, two hours earlier than you would normally arrive. That would give you enough time to get the results back?[/QUOTE]Yep it won't be an issue. Testing is in International terminal but my departure will be in the Domestic terminal. Provided they send the results electronically I will be able to spend some of those 90 minutes transferring from Int to Dom terminal, drinking coffee and having breakfast. By the time I finish coffee #3 I'll be reading a txt with my results. Check in and then just 13 hours to MNL. Not the most time efficient routing but we all like our frequent flyer perks.
I have a question I really am unable to find a definitive answer on.
Is there in writing somewhere stating how much currency you can carry on domestic flights within the Philippines. I am well aware of the currency limits when entering and exiting the country.
I know that in the US you can carry as much cash as you want domestically. In searching some countries require proof of income. If you can carry up to 10 k USD into the philippines I would assume that you could carry that 10 k onto a domestic flight, I haven't found any law or anything concrete to back this up. And the php limit I did find just says into an airport. The domestic airport of course is an airport. Does anyone have any proof or statutes that specific a limit on domestic flights within the philippines? Everything I have found points to international flights. This could mean there is no limit domestically or that limit is observed in all airports but is not enforced in domestic terminals due to no customs. I have never seen any carriage warnings on currency on phils domestic tickets.
Just wondering what the thoughts are on this board about the both the safety and convenience (or lack thereof) of getting a rental car. While I'd probably plan on spending maybe half of my time (maybe 10 days) in AC, I'd like the freedom to get out, hit the country side, check out Banaue, head up Baguio and climb Mt. Pulag. And of course, try my hand at some of the country girls.
What roadside dangers could I expect, both from people and maybe crooked cops? Also, if I actually had a car in AC, how much of a pain in the ass is it going to be to simply have it and park there. (I'd also consider getting a rental in AC for when I choose to leave but it looks like most of the good options like National are in Manila).
Maybe this is all a terrible idea. So, coming to the experts!
[QUOTE=RandMcNasty;2683372]Just wondering what the thoughts are on this board about the both the safety and convenience (or lack thereof) of getting a rental car....
What roadside dangers could I expect, both from people and maybe crooked cops?
Maybe this is all a terrible idea. So, coming to the experts![/QUOTE]How comfortable are you driving in chaotic traffic? Do you need a car every day? If that's ok, then it's doable and the risks are managable.
The biggest risk is that if (many would say when) there is an accident, and you are driving then it's going to be your fault, regardless of the circumstances. Without being melodratic, I've seen these go right up to a fatality. Do you have a plan to deal with these should they occur.
Cops and other civilians don't pose much of an issue if you don't give them a reason to.
Personally, for such a short time, I would hire car and driver. In the current circumstances, many would jump at a 10 or 20 day package at very reasonable cost. However, if frequent mobility to out of the way places is important to you, then it's not a terribly idea.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2683333]Is there in writing somewhere stating how much currency you can carry on domestic flights within the Philippines. I am well aware of the currency limits when entering and exiting the country.[/QUOTE]For entry / exit it is P10 K local currency. Seriously.
All travelers should keep the following in mind regarding Philippine customs regulations:
[QUOTE]Firearms and pornography are forbidden
Certain items like alcohol and tobacco can be imported duty-free in small amounts only
Foreign currency of more than US$10,000 and local currency of more than P10,000 must be declared upon entry or exit[/QUOTE]I will usually carry P4 k which is the max amount I need for a transport NAIA AC. I always have this kept from a previous visit.
DO NOT exchange any currency and your home country. You will be repoorted.
I will swing by the ATM at NAIA arrivals and make a local currency withdrawal which gives a competitive rate. Failing that there are currency exchanges at NAIA.
[QUOTE=RandMcNasty;2683372] Wisdom or Folly of a Rental Car..[/QUOTE]My guess is Folly.
I doubt you will have this problem but the groups of Koreans in expensive SUVs had problems. Trike drivers would cut in front of the Korean SUV when slowing at an intersection or stop light. Of course the sidecar would be facing the SUV thus limiting the trike driver getting hurt. This way the Filipino gets a new trike.
The mass traffic and horrible roads will not make for an enjoyable drive.
Finding a parking spot is an act of God in so many places.
[QUOTE=RandMcNasty;2683372]Just wondering what the thoughts are on this board about the both the safety and convenience (or lack thereof) of getting a rental car.....Mt. Pulag. And of course, try my hand at some of the country![/QUOTE]If you do this, be sure you have front, back, side cameras on the car. Saved a friend of mine from a car accident where the locals quickly pinned him as a foreigner to be at fault. However, he remained calm and when the police arrived along with his cell recording all the convo, replayed the events of accident and the people were quick to change their tune from burning him on the cross to displaying "empathy and compassion. " he also had a bat in the car in case things got out of hand.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]For entry / exit it is P10 K local currency. Seriously.
All travelers should keep the following in mind regarding Philippine customs regulations:
I will usually carry P4 k which is the max amount I need for a transport NAIA AC. I always have this kept from a previous visit.
DO NOT exchange any currency and your home country. You will be repoorted.
I will swing by the ATM at NAIA arrivals and make a local currency withdrawal which gives a competitive rate. Failing that there are currency exchanges at NAIA.[/QUOTE]I find this advice confusing. First, P10 K is only $200 US. My recollection is similar to MontanaMonger: a limit of the equivalent of $10 K US for entering the country.
Second, your "Do Not exchange" statement is unclear. Do you mean don't exchange currency in your home country or from your home country? I have done both of these and nobody reported me. And what's the point of using a currency exchange at NAIA if you get reported for exchanging currency from your home country? In my experience the exchanges at the airport give a slightly better rate than from ATMs and with no transaction charge. Currency exchanges in the city give rates as good or better than exchanges at the airport.
Granted, I have not been in country in nearly three years, but I can't imagine these things have changed that dramatically. Have I missed something?
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]For entry / exit it is P10 K local currency. Seriously. All travelers should keep the following in mind regarding Philippine customs regulations:
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I will usually carry P4 k which is the max amount I need for a transport NAIA AC. I always have this kept from a previous visit.[/QUOTE]Already MM said he was clear on the Phils entry / exit policy. The policy is $10 k US dollars (not P10 k -- pesos, which would be about $200 USD). MM's question was regarding domestic flights inside of Phils: Is there a maximum limit one can carry on a domestic flight (say, from NAIA to Butuan)?
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]DO NOT exchange any currency and your home country. [/QUOTE]Did not understand this. Did you mean 'in your home county'? I would agree, as the fees are too high.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]You will be repoorted.[/QUOTE]Reported to whom? For what reason? If I exchange $200 USD at my bank in my country for P10,000, why would that be reported, and to whom (and why would I care)? Alternately, if I exchange P10,000 (brought home by me from Phils previously) at my bank for $200 USD, why would that be reported?
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]I will swing by the ATM at NAIA arrivals and make a local currency withdrawal which gives a competitive rate. Failing that there are currency exchanges at NAIA. [/QUOTE]Using an ATM in Phils to withdraw cash from your bank in another country would result in high fees. The ATM would give you pesos at a worse exchange rate than the money changer. In addition, there are ATM fees to be paid at the (usually p250 or such), and probably a $5 US dollar 'out of network' fee charged by your home country bank.
An example. Say today's exchange rate is p50 to 1 US dollar. The money changer is offering p49 per dollar. I hand the money changer $200 US dollars, and he hands me p9800 (200 x 49). I give up $200 and get p9800 (a p200 or $4 loss for using the money changer).
I go to a BDO ATM machine in NAIA. The machine demands a p250 fee ($5). I tell the machine I want p10000. The machine gives me p10000, but takes $208.33 from my US bank account (an exchange rate of p48 per $1 US dollar). In addition, my bank charges me a $5 US dollar fee for an overseas ATM use. I get p10000, and I give up $208.33 + $5 + $5 = $218.33. That's an $18 kick in the wallet.
Anyone correct my digits.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683396]Personally, for such a short time, I would hire car and driver. In the current circumstances, many would jump at a 10 or 20 day package at very reasonable cost. However, if frequent mobility to out of the way places is important to you, then it's not a terribly idea.[/QUOTE]I agree. Furthermore, these guys drive for a living and know their way around. And they speak the language to ask for directions to places they don't know. Most are decent chaps and some of them can carry on an intelligent conversation in English.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2683425]For entry / exit it is P10 K local currency. Seriously.[/QUOTE]This has been increased to 50 K PHP.
See BSP Circular No. 922.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2683660]
Anyone correct my digits.[/QUOTE]This is very bank and home country dependant.
For me, I have a bank issued 'Travel Debit Card' it has low / no fees and (importantly) wholesale FX rates.
I have no 1st hand knowledge but many Americans report their banks refund all international fees.
Web based peer to peer banks like Wise offer very good FX rates and fee structure.
I can remember in the early days, on my first couple of trips, when I used a standard MasterCard credit card to withdraw cash from an ATM, the highest cost line item over the length of my holiday was bank fees. Now that was crazy.
Neither of us has priced in the risk of holding large sums of cash to be converted. Perhaps not a big deal for a 3 day business trip but certainly a consideration for a month or two of fun. Let's face it, some of the people we have in our rooms could be very tempted by several '000 dollars held in a hotel safe.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2683660]Anyone correct my digits.[/QUOTE]Consider the eventually higher cost to get foreign currency in cash as security insurance. It not refers to the Philippines only, but for global travelling.
If I loose say 4000 Peso and my credit card -- its pain but not not the world. I use the second card to get new cash and inform my bank about the card-loss.
If I loose 4000 $, my trip is fucked up.
And to your digits: mine are lower as my card not charges for cash advance and get a slightly better rate than the moneychanger offers. But yes, I need to pay the local fee at the ATM.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683670]This is very bank and home country dependant.
For me, I have a bank issued 'Travel Debit Card' it has low / no fees and (importantly) wholesale FX rates.
I have no 1st hand knowledge but many Americans report their banks refund all international fees.[/QUOTE]I am aware of one such bank. Charles Schwab, offers a debit card that has no ATM fees (well, you pay them, then they credit you the money back at the end of the billing cycle). In addition, Citi offers a Visa credit card (not debit) that offers no Foreign Transaction Fees (FTF's) on purchases (and careful, as with any CC, using it at an ATM will be considered a cash disbursement and hit you with a $10 US dollar fee). The typical FTF is 3% on all foreign purchases. If anyone else knows of such debit cards that rebate back all fees, or CC's that have no FTF's, please holler so the gents can get one. A bank loan officer once said to me: "We are not in the business of not making money on every transaction". I was looking on several major bank's CC's recently and they all have the standard 3% FTF.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683670]Web based peer to peer banks like Wise offer very good FX rates and fee structure.[/QUOTE]Will look into it!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683670]Neither of us has priced in the risk of holding large sums of cash to be converted. Perhaps not a big deal for a 3 day business trip but certainly a consideration for a month or two of fun. Let's face it, some of the people we have in our rooms could be very tempted by several '000 dollars held in a hotel safe.[/QUOTE]We have discussed before the lack of wisdom of traveling with large sums of cash. Lost, stolen, or taken by greedy government officials. Once its gone, its gone.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2683686]
Will look into it!
[/QUOTE]I've used Wise extensively for non mongering purposes, both to transfer cash and to pay for foreign purchases. FX rates are very good and fees are minimal. They can be extremely fast too. Its not uncommon for a transfer to SEA to be available in the recipient's account in an hour or two. The only issue I've had is that payments in the home currency to foreign accounts can get tricky eg paying USD into Philippines. There always needs to be some form of conversion, not just a transfer.
They do have a Debit card that offers very good fees and features. The only thing that stopped me was a daily max withdrawl of $200. However that was a while ago and it may have changed. Let me know if it has as their platform is very user friendly and keeps getting better.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683690] The only issue I've had is that payments in the home currency to foreign accounts can get tricky eg paying USD into Philippines. There always needs to be some form of conversion, not just a transfer.[/QUOTE]I'm a WISE user also. When I'm sending USD remittances to Ph I do the conversion before sending it onto their Ph bank. So the local Ph bank should be receiving the remittance as P10,000 avoiding the arbitrary Ph conversion fees.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683690]They do have a Debit card that offers very good fees and features. The only thing that stopped me was a daily max withdrawal of $200..[/QUOTE]I haven't struck their daily limit. The problem as I see it is they increase charges after $350 in a month. $1.50 per transaction + 1.75%. Ouch. I also find Australian banks apply a higher ATM fee also.
I do retain the WISE card for foreign purchases. Being able to obtain multiple card numbers and freeze cards online makes it great for online subscriptions.
For cash use though there are better options like ING.
On Wednesday night, 4/6, the IATF officially allowed rapid antigen tests for entry to the Phils per Malacanang. Reported in Philippine Lifestyle News on April 8. The IATF also recommended that Alert Level One continue until June 30.
The article contained some good news for mongers from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Mexico. Covid certificates from those countries will now be recognized for entry to the Phils.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2683762]On Wednesday night, 4/6, the IATF officially allowed rapid antigen tests for entry to the Phils per Malacanang. Reported in Philippine Lifestyle News on April 8..[/QUOTE]That's good news. Changes my pre-departure requirement to day before swinging by the local pharmacy where the Pharmacist will supervise and declare.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2683670]Neither of us has priced in the risk of holding large sums of cash to be converted. Perhaps not a big deal for a 3 day business trip but certainly a consideration for a month or two of fun. Let's face it, some of the people we have in our rooms could be very tempted by several '000 dollars held in a hotel safe. Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, and the same holds for large sums of Philippine pesos. Hotel employees may well know how to defeat the hotel's own room safe.
I always carry a product called pac-safe. It's like a canvas ditty bag, about 10 inches by six inches, and the canvas is reinforced with a wire mesh in between two layers of canvas. Virtually impossible to cut through with a knife or scissors. It comes with a length of plastic-covered aviation cable that can be looped around plumbing pipes and locked. Neither hotel staff nor a misguided p4 p is likely to get at the cash or other valuables inside. It can also be used to keep condoms and other paraphernalia away from prying eyes. I paid about $40 for mine a dozen years ago, and it has long since paid for itself.
I carry only enough cash with me for the immediate needs of each foray away from the hotel or condo -- in a money "belt" worn over the shoulder under my shirt. I leave the balance of my cash, dollars or pesos, my passport, and other valuables in the pac-safe in my room, including the money I anticipate needing for a p4 p picked up in a bar or the mall.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2684101]Agreed, and the same holds for large sums of Philippine pesos. Hotel employees may well know how to defeat the hotel's own room safe.
I always carry a product called pac-safe. It's like a canvas ditty bag, about 10 inches by six inches, and the canvas is reinforced with a wire mesh in between two layers of canvas.[/QUOTE]Only fools hide their money and valuables in the room safe, as we don't know how else has the master key.
A pac safe is also not needed. I pack everything into refrigerator zip bags and hide it in the room, every room has some good places for hiding. Nobody will find it (unlike the pac safe, who will be found immediately).
I also hided things like that during Africa Trips and never had any problems.
[QUOTE=GenXBaer;2683595]If you do this, be sure you have front, back, side cameras on the car. Saved a friend of mine from a car accident where the locals quickly pinned him as a foreigner to be at fault. However, he remained calm and when the police arrived along with his cell recording all the convo, replayed the events of accident and the people were quick to change their tune from burning him on the cross to displaying "empathy and compassion. " he also had a bat in the car in case things got out of hand.[/QUOTE]As I suspected, the general consensus is that renting a car is a bad idea.
As inconvenient as it will be, I think on my next trip I will just try to use the buses to get around. Since I don't plan on making mongering the only thing I do, and I'd like to do some legit tourism and exploring, it would be nice to have the freedom of my own vehicle but the last thing I would want to deal with is getting involved in a scam where I could potentially have the police against me.
Planning my 1st trip:
First, huge thanks to all who post here. I've been lurking for some time as I contemplate my next extended trip (past trips to Argentina, Chile, and Dominican Republic) and wait out the worst of the pandemic headwinds. The collective wisdom and occasional humor have been amazing. I think I am about as prepared as I can be, until I get boots on the ground, of course, for an excellent time.
I'd appreciate some feedback on my preliminary plans. I'm looking to optimize for ST barfine sessions, then perhaps FL sessions, and since I have bad knees, minimal walking time to / from bars. I have decent budget available and I want to limit my 1st trip to the Manila and AC areas. Here's my current plan:
Flights: I will be flying business class because I can afford it. Non-stop from LAX to MNL. Prefer to arrive late afternoon to early evening.
COVID Stuff: Fully vaccinated and double boosted. It looks like I'll need the following to fly: One health card, recent PRC (or antigen?) test results, global entry card (already have TSA-Pre), travel medical insurance ($35 K or higher), and identify where I can get new tests in MNL before I fly home. Not sure if I also need "E-health Declaration" and "Case Investigation" - can anyone confirm?
Lodging: I'm thinking of staying 7-ish days in Makati, then 7-8 days in AC, then coming back to the Manila area for the rest of my stay. I'm budgeting about $50-$80 per night for hotel, and looking for girl-friendly and generally more upscale (or at least not shit-hole) locations near the local bars to minimize walking distances as much as practical.
Transport between cities: I'm looking at taking a bus for $5-$10 between Manila and AC. But I can pay more for a taxi if it's a more direct / safer / shorter trip.
Transportation in-city. As mentioned, I have bad knees and as a bigger guy, I'm not sure I'll fit in the trikes. So Grab seems like the way to go for short trips, maybe 4-8 per day depending on daily activities.
Daily routine: I'm getting older, so I'll probably only do a barfine or FL every other day, then recovering and maybe doing touristy crap (cover story) on the off days. Or if I meet a girl I really like, I can extend our session to the next day for additional funds.
Question on barfines in Manila vs AC: From what I have seen in past posts, a barfine in Manila or Makati gets the girl out of the bar, and then she expects an additional amount generally equal to the barfine for a complete experience. While a barfine in AC is "all-inclusive" with the expectation of a small tip (php 250-500) before she leaves. Is this correct? I've seen references to barfines in both areas between php 3 k and 4 k, with FL rates between php 2 K and 4 K. Should I plan on / budget for these rates by time I get there in July?
Packing: I'm an experienced traveler including travel in "poor" countries. But the tip about buying a pacsafe bag is a great idea. Thank you! I want to pack a 6-8 day supply of clothes, and use the hotel or local laundry service as needed. Shorts, light jeans, t-shits and polos, and a swim suit seems appropriate. Plus a baseball hat and sunscreen if I'll be outdoors for a while. Wil I need to bring my Verizon hotspot? Or is that just a waste of space / weight in my luggage?
Medical: I take daily meds, and will bring an ample supply, of course. If I lose my meds, do I need a prescription to refill them at a local pharmacy? And will a US-based prescription be accepted? Next, I am considering starting a PrEP regimen and will be asking my doctor about it. Should I be insisting on only drinking bottled water?
Sorry for the word-wall. I tend to over plan so I avoid surprises.
Anyone see any red flags or landmines in my plan?
Thanks for any and all feedback.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2684305]A pac safe is also not needed. I pack everything into refrigerator zip bags and hide it in the room, every room has some good places for hiding. Nobody will find it (unlike the pac safe, who will be found immediately).
I also hided things like that during Africa Trips and never had any problems.[/QUOTE]Or you might have been lucky. First time I took a p4p from LA Cafe about 15 years ago she told me I should be careful with my money. "Some of the girls will steal from you when you go in the CR. " She advised me to hide the money between the mattress and box springs. Great idea, but if she has thought of this hiding place, others have too. My guess is that every hiding place you can find in a hotel room, others can find it with not much effort. BTW, pacsafe is not a "who," it's a thing.
I don't care whether they find my pacsafe. I draw the aviation cable up tight enough so there's no place to get a bolt cutter on it, and I use a padlock designed so there's no way to get a bolt cutter on the shackle. In the states a lock like that costs about $12 at Walmart.
Plastic freezer bags are a novel idea. As to never having had any problems in Africa and elsewhere, you might want to look up the term "superstitious reinforcement." But plastic bags are clearly a cheap solution. You could save nearly $40 from the cost of my pacsafe.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]COVID Stuff: Not sure if I also need "E-health Declaration" and "Case Investigation" - can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Don't spend any time on this until 2 weeks before your trip. The situation changes each week and the only situation you have to deal with is what is current in July.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Lodging: I'm thinking of staying 7-ish days in Makati, then 7-8 days in AC,
[/QUOTE]Pensinsular has good deals. 7-8 days in AC sounds too long unless you have other activity there.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Daily routine: I'm getting older, so I'll probably only do a barfine or FL every other day, then recovering and maybe doing touristy crap (cover story) on the off days. Or if I meet a girl I really like, I can extend our session to the next day for additional funds.[/QUOTE]What's your interest in so many different girls? How about just playing for a few days then find one good freelancer that will spend a few days with you. It's just a different part of your experience rather than always hunting. You will need a break.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Wil I need to bring my Verizon hotspot? [/QUOTE]Buy a local SIM at NAIA when you arrive.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Should I be insisting on only drinking bottled water?[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Anyone see any red flags or landmines in my plan?[/QUOTE]Be prepared but not too restrictive in your plans. It's PH, it will go a stray. Keep your prepayments and pre-bookings to a minimum. Sure, lock in your LAX-MNL flights but keep your hotel and dates open. Maybe 2-3 days each in AC & MNL first then deicide of you will extend in either place.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Planning my 1st trip:
Thanks for any and all feedback.[/QUOTE]AP has given a lot of good advice. I will add a few things. Take your American prescriptions. I suspect most pharmacies will recognize them. On the other hand, I have often walked into pharmacies in Manila with a handwritten note containing the name of a medication, specifics about dosage, and noted "generic" and gotten antibiotics, Viagra, and others filled without a doctor's prescription. I recommend The Generics Pharmacy. Do a google search from home and you'll find them all over Manila and other Philippine cities. Best prices, few questions, fewer Filipinos looking over your shoulder. Philippine drug prices are much lower than in the states.
I'm not familiar with Verizon hotspot, but cell providers in the Philippines use GSM carriers. Verizon uses CDMA, a different type of carrier. AP says buy a cheap sim at the airport. Good advice, except that the local sims will not fit in a Verizon CDMA phone. In the states, T-Mobile, AT&T and a few others are GSM carriers. You may want to shop on Amazon for an inexpensive ($60 +/-) unlocked GSM phone. An unlocked phone lets you install your own sim that you purchase at NAIA airport. The two biggest providers, Smart and Globe, have booths near the money exchangers after you pass through immigration and customs. They will install the sim in your phone and sell you 300 ($6 US) or 500 pesos ($10 US) of load. 300 is enough to start with; you can buy additional load on the street when you need it. GSM phones can be used in many other countries, so the phone is not a throw-away.
The barfine and payment to the girl sounds right for the Padre Burgos area in Makati, but I don't believe paying the girl an extra amount equivalent to the barfine is correct for AC. Check out the AC thread for recent discussion about tips.
I think you'll find limited flight options nonstop LAX to NAIA, maybe only Philippine Airlines (PAL). I have flown with them twice SF to NAIA, and they arrived about 5 am. Service and food were decent. Previously PAL flew into Terminal Two, whereas most other international carriers go into Terminal 3. If you buy a PAL ticket, ascertain which terminal you arrive in; taxi and other directions may be different. On the bright side, not much traffic on Manila streets at 5 am, but you may have to wait in the hotel lobby to get checked in. Or stretch your legs on the local streets and inhale all the local odors and noises of Manila. LOL!
One last thought. If you plan seven days in Manila, you might want to purchase a Manila CitiAtlas from Amazon. A little paperback that covers all the streets in the metro area in great detail. In the past it was about $7. Now a new one is $48, and a used copy is $31. Talk about inflation! Or, you can explore via google maps and Google Earth from your computer.
Any ideas on getting from Manila to Subic, prefer car. I'm sure travel postings on Angeles but haven't seen anything since travel has resumed. One gentlemen awhile back said moving around required some problems, checkpoints etc, hope this is now not the case. Price range if anyone knows.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2684305]Only fools hide their money and valuables in the room safe, as we don't know how else has the master key.
A pac safe is also not needed. I pack everything into refrigerator zip bags and hide it in the room, every room has some good places for hiding. Nobody will find it (unlike the pac safe, who will be found immediately).
I also hided things like that during Africa Trips and never had any problems.[/QUOTE]Pac safe is needed and the type of crime that is stoped by the in room safe and the pac safe is not a robbery. Its not a fools errand to hide things in the room safe yes the hotel has a key and you could conceivably have a master key for the safe. The in the Philippine and else where youll run into rooms without safes especially in the province. If you can find a metal pole to attach the pac safe to stop what you would call "crimes of opportunity". People who wouldn't ordinarily steal when presented with a moral dilemma often times give into to temptation so offering yourself a measure of security does not protect against a robbery. Hidding your crap in ziplock bags will also not protect you from a robbery. If for whatever reason a philipina happenstances on a ziplock bag full of money you can be sure that is gone where as if she sees a locked up pac safe she is not going to try and break into it in plain sight. The purpose of such security devices is not to 100% protect the items from the would be criminal its about the time it will take to get to the valuables and having said valuable in plain sight also helps deter such crimes of opportunity. Hiding the money out of sight may very well do the opposite. If you are hiding stuff from the hotel staff and are that paranoid there is no hope for you. It is infact good practice when you bring back a bar fine to lock up your phone wallet and everything else you can't keep an eye on naked and place it in a pacsafe or in the room safe. Hiding bags all over the room like a hoe easter hunt is not the answer to basic monger safety.
If you see a hoe near the hotel safe area . move the hoe & if your hoe is carrying bolt cutters with her might want to reconsider.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]
Lodging: I'm thinking of staying 7-ish days in Makati, then 7-8 days in AC, then coming back to the Manila area for the rest of my stay. I'm budgeting about $50-$80 per night for hotel, and looking for girl-friendly and generally more upscale (or at least not shit-hole) locations near the local bars to minimize walking distances as much as practical.
[/QUOTE]If this is your first trip and during covid I would not goto makati first, hop into a taxi and head for AC first and make your way to manila later on AC is like training wheels for all of the Philippines. Food, women and everything else a monger needs is in AC.
Once you get your bearings you may consider a move to makati. But given that manila traffic is back and it is not nearly as fun as it was pre pandemic. AC is a better location to start with imo for the uninitiated.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2684305]Only fools hide their money and valuables in the room safe, as we don't know how else has the master key.[/QUOTE]You do not need a master key for a hotel safe. A fist or a magnet will do in most cases. I bought a Pac Safe years ago and have probably used it 2 or 3 times. I am not as paranoid as most people. Hotel safe is fine for my extra credit cards and passport. It seems that I do not carry as much cash as most when I travel. Instead I prefer to use my credit card and only pay cash by way of an ATM when I am paying a chick or buying something off the street.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2684620]Any ideas on getting from Manila to Subic, prefer car. I'm sure travel postings on Angeles but haven't seen anything since travel has resumed. One gentlemen awhile back said moving around required some problems, checkpoints etc, hope this is now not the case. Price range if anyone knows.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you are aware but you drive straight past AC to get to Subic so the car options are exactly the same. From simplest / most expensive:
Hotel pick up - 5 k.
Airport taxi. Varies.
Private hire - 3 k.
If you really must, there were also a couple of seaplane and helicopter options. Not sure if they are still running though.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]Planning my 1st trip:
First, huge thanks to all who post here. I've been lurking for some time as I contemplate my next extended trip (past trips to Argentina, Chile, and Dominican Republic) and wait out the worst of the pandemic headwinds. The collective wisdom and occasional humor have been amazing. I think I am about as prepared as I can be, until I get boots on the ground, of course, for an excellent time.
I'd appreciate some feedback on my preliminary plans. I'm looking to optimize for ST barfine sessions, then perhaps FL sessions, and since I have bad knees, minimal walking time to / from bars. I have decent budget available and I want to limit my 1st trip to the Manila and AC areas. Here's my current plan:
Flights: I will be flying business class because I can afford it. Non-stop from LAX to MNL. Prefer to arrive late afternoon to early evening.
COVID Stuff: Fully vaccinated and double boosted. It looks like I'll need the following to fly: One health card, recent PRC (or antigen?) test results, global entry card (already have TSA-Pre), travel medical insurance ($35 K or higher), and identify where I can get new tests in MNL before I fly home. Not sure if I also need "E-health Declaration" and "Case Investigation" - can anyone confirm?
Lodging: I'm thinking of staying 7-ish days in Makati, then 7-8 days in AC, then coming back to the Manila area for the rest of my stay. I'm budgeting about $50-$80 per night for hotel, and looking for girl-friendly and generally more upscale (or at least not shit-hole) locations near the local bars to minimize walking distances as much as practical.
Transport between cities: I'm looking at taking a bus for $5-$10 between Manila and AC. But I can pay more for a taxi if it's a more direct / safer / shorter trip.
Transportation in-city. As mentioned, I have bad knees and as a bigger guy, I'm not sure I'll fit in the trikes. So Grab seems like the way to go for short trips, maybe 4-8 per day depending on daily activities.
Daily routine: I'm getting older, so I'll probably only do a barfine or FL every other day, then recovering and maybe doing touristy crap (cover story) on the off days. Or if I meet a girl I really like, I can extend our session to the next day for additional funds.
Question on barfines in Manila vs AC: From what I have seen in past posts, a barfine in Manila or Makati gets the girl out of the bar, and then she expects an additional amount generally equal to the barfine for a complete experience. While a barfine in AC is "all-inclusive" with the expectation of a small tip (php 250-500) before she leaves. Is this correct? I've seen references to barfines in both areas between php 3 k and 4 k, with FL rates between php 2 K and 4 K. Should I plan on / budget for these rates by time I get there in July?
Packing: I'm an experienced traveler including travel in "poor" countries. But the tip about buying a pacsafe bag is a great idea. Thank you! I want to pack a 6-8 day supply of clothes, and use the hotel or local laundry service as needed. Shorts, light jeans, t-shits and polos, and a swim suit seems appropriate. Plus a baseball hat and sunscreen if I'll be outdoors for a while. Wil I need to bring my Verizon hotspot? Or is that just a waste of space / weight in my luggage?
Medical: I take daily meds, and will bring an ample supply, of course. If I lose my meds, do I need a prescription to refill them at a local pharmacy? And will a US-based prescription be accepted? Next, I am considering starting a PrEP regimen and will be asking my doctor about it. Should I be insisting on only drinking bottled water?
Sorry for the word-wall. I tend to over plan so I avoid surprises.
Anyone see any red flags or landmines in my plan?
Thanks for any and all feedback.[/QUOTE]Thanks to AsianPursuits, Soapy Smith, and MontanaMonger for your replies! Great feedback.
I will get a GSM phone and pacsafe this week. Looks like I will need to do more scutt work to research hotels in each city for price / guest policy / location / and quality before I drop any reservations. And I'll have at least one back up hotel in each area just in case. I have also been reviewing several YouTube vlogs about the scene. I agree with some of the feedback here that some of the vloggers are creepy, and that's saying something within a monger blog! But they do give me a decent idea of look and feel of the streets and street traffic. The PAL flight I'm looking at leaves LAX at 11 pm and lands in MNL around 9 pm. So I don't think I'll need to wait in the lobby for hours to check-in. When I flew to Buenos Aires a few years ago, landing at 7:00 am, I solved this by buying a extra day at the hotel for the day before I landed and telling the front desk I was going to do REALLY late check in. It was worth the extra spend.
I'll probably post an update as I get closer to my dates. And I'll post in the Travel Announcements Board in case anyone here wants to join me for suitable adult beverage.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684899]Looks like I will need to do more scutt work to research hotels in each city for price / guest policy / location / and quality before I drop any reservations. And I'll have at least one back up hotel in each area just in case.[/QUOTE]If your health issues are limiting your mobility, remember that there are hotels literally on Walking Street, P Burgos etc.
Reviews are great but remember that the whole Covid situation has changed everything. Being closed for several years has forced many previously good hotels to close completely, drastically reduce maintenance spend, or send qualified staff home.
You may find it better to only book a few nights on arrival. Then you can extend or move depending on how you find it. Its very easy to over plan a PI holiday and then find yourself locked into places or times that you may wish to change should you (dis) like a place. Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684899]I'll probably post an update as I get closer to my dates. And I'll post in the Travel Announcements Board in case anyone here wants to join me for suitable adult beverage.[/QUOTE]HK, here's a tip for using the reply with quote function. Usually, you don't need to leave all of the previous post intact. You can easily delete part of an earlier post. When you click on reply with quote you will see brackets at the beginning and end of the post. The first set of brackets usually says "Quote," then the poster's name, and a post number. Make sure you leave the brackets and all their contents. At the end of the copied post is another set of brackets and the word "Quote. " Make sure you leave these brackets and contents as well. Aside from retaining the brackets, you can delete as much or as little of the wording in the post as you want. Notice that in this reply I retained only your last line. Others will appreciate having you shorten your replies by deleting unneeded words.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2684913]
You may find it better to only book a few nights on arrival. Then you can extend or move depending on how you find it. Its very easy to over plan a PI holiday and then find yourself locked into places or times that you may wish to change should you (dis) like a place. Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Soapy, sorry about the quote spam. Thanks for the tip.
Gofer. Thanks for the hotel advice as well. After decades of business travel, I've learned to try to NEVER go on the road without a confirmed hotel for every travel day. So booking a few days then extending or moving is against my nature. I'll have to push back my habits for this and to take your advice.
New question, please: I was reading a long string about money exchange on the AC board and it got me wondering when I should pay by card vs cash. Paying by card reduces the need to bring and exchange cash, and with a Travel Visa card from my primary bank I can avoid or reduce FX fees for most card transactions. I have enough cash to pay off the card bills the next month, so not worried about loading up interest charges. So here's what I'm thinking:
1. Cash for all mongering activities. Barfines, bar bills, ST / LT fees and tips, etc.
2. Cards for all non-mongering activities at "legit" merchants like hotel, restaurants, retail stores, etc. IF they accept cards and IF they have a legit credit card terminal (I used to be in that business so I can spot card scammers. Mostly).
3. Cash for street vendors, 7-11-ish stores, taxis / Grab.
Does this make sense, or should I just go with cash for all except perhaps hotels? By the way, I'm single, retired and no kids, so I'm not worried about PI transactions on my statements.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]After decades of business travel, I've learned to try to NEVER go on the road without a confirmed hotel for every travel day. So booking a few days then extending or moving is against my nature. I'll have to push back my habits for this and to take your advice.
New question, please: I was reading a long string about money exchange on the AC board and it got me wondering when I should pay by card vs cash. [/QUOTE]I'd agree for business travel where you have a fixed itinerary and way points. However, for a new holiday destination, you don't know what you will enjoy or dislike. You may arrive somewhere and want to stay longer or arrive and want to leave the next day.
Typically I have my flights in and out of country booked and 3 days accommodation to let me relax and gets feel for the area.
The only times when spontaneous decisions have been an issue for me was during peak season (unlikely now) where rooms become scarce. Just remember that some of the booking sites will not allow you to make a new booking for tonight only for tomorrow night onwards even if rooms are available.
Your cash vs card matrix is pretty good. You are correct that you will go through more cash than an equivalent western holiday. One thing I would add is online payments. I pay for all my hotels online via Agoda and all domestic flights via the respective Airlines.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]Does this make sense, or should I just go with cash for all except perhaps hotels? By the way, I'm single, retired and no kids, so I'm not worried about PI transactions on my statements.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I read alarm bells all over your post and not just because you don't mind racking up credit card and other bank charges. I work as follows: 1. Double to treble to what I might reasonably need in cash; + 2. Lots of cards to back it up. I tend work on on onion budgets: a. Spend little, be. Loosen up. See. Splah out. The. This is getting serious, abandon and cut shot the holiday if need be.
The really dangerous thing about your post is using plastic all over the place, in SE Asia. That would be total panic stations for me and I would not do it as I would expect to get scammed / skimmed, no matter what you or others might say.
There have also been posts about carrying very large amounts of money. I have carried tens of thousands of $$ but not to blow on hookers. I would be very careful of any of that going through domestic plane checks as I would not trust them to do a number on me.
You have people here and everywhere like to act the big guy. Ignore those losers. Play safe, hedge your bets.
It could be you are some obese American, not used to going down and dirty. In that case, plan accordingly. Fancy, over priced hotels and, even if paying them by plastic, cash is king.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]After decades of business travel, I've learned to try to NEVER go on the road without a confirmed hotel for every travel day. So booking a few days then extending or moving is against my nature.[/QUOTE]That depends on where and when you are going. I know that I can pop up in Santo Domingo anytime and find a place to stay without a reservation. I also know that if I pop up in Santo Domingo at Christmas time thinking I am going to be able to get a rental car without a reservation (or even with one sometimes) I will be shit out of luck.
People giving advice on this forum have been around the block a time or two and give solid advice on places to stay. In Philippines it is very easy to book 1 or 2 days at a place then look for something better or extend once you have boots on the ground and get your bearings.
My first time in Manila people here told me to stay at City State in Ermita. To this day I still stay there sometimes. In Angeles I was told to stay in Central Park (before it was rebuilt) or Pacific Breeze. Those are also 2 places I still check out when looking for a place although now I am more knowledgeable of other places in the vicinity.
I tried to give my brother the same advice of where to stay his first time, but he decided to do his own thing. He ended up booking the entire time at a hotel across town far from everything, not knowing how bad Manila traffic is. Experience is the best teacher.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]Soapy, sorry about the quote spam. Thanks for the tip.
Gofer. Thanks for the hotel advice as well. After decades of business travel, I've learned to try to NEVER go on the road without a confirmed hotel for every travel day. So booking a few days then extending or moving is against my nature. I'll have to push back my habits for this and to take your advice.
New question, please: I was reading a long string about money exchange on the AC board and it got me wondering when I should pay by card vs cash. Paying by card reduces the need to bring and exchange cash, and with a Travel Visa card from my primary bank I can avoid or reduce FX fees for most card transactions. I have enough cash to pay off the card bills the next month, so not worried about loading up interest charges. So here's what I'm thinking:
1. Cash for all mongering activities. Barfines, bar bills, ST / LT fees and tips, etc.
2. Cards for all non-mongering activities at "legit" merchants like hotel, restaurants, retail stores, etc. IF they accept cards and IF they have a legit credit card terminal (I used to be in that business so I can spot card scammers. Mostly)..[/QUOTE]I would agree Card for hotels and major bookings.
In restaurant's and retail stores you are still better to use cash. Tips can be better handled direct to staff. Also many stores have extra layers of security on card use which will slow you down.
Grab you can pre-pay credit every few days.
I am not a fan of "travel" cards which often have a 'loading' fee which you pay when you load your currencies. Plus there is still a foreign exchange margin when you more currency around plus there is usually a fee for inactivity such that the leach away any remaining credit.
'Travel' cards are a big bank old school service. These days they are replaced by a card such as Wise or in Australia we have Citibank Visa Debit, fee free overseas withdrawals and ING debit cards which rebate overseas fees.
I guess it depends on what card you use but I have been using a Capital One credit card here for years. I use it for everything I can then go online and pay. In thousands of uses at several stores and Agoda I have never had any transaction that was overcharged or incorrect.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]Soapy, sorry about the quote spam. Thanks for the tip.
Gofer. Thanks for the hotel advice as well. After decades of business travel, I've learned to try to NEVER go on the road without a confirmed hotel for every travel day. So booking a few days then extending or moving is against my nature. I'll have to push back my habits for this and to take your advice.
New question, please: I was reading a long string about money exchange on the AC board and it got me wondering when I should pay by card vs cash. Paying by card reduces the need to bring and exchange cash, and with a Travel Visa card from my primary bank I can avoid or reduce FX fees for most card transactions. I have enough cash to pay off the card bills the next month, so not worried about loading up interest charges. So here's what I'm thinking:
1. Cash for all mongering activities. Barfines, bar bills, ST / LT fees and tips, etc.
2. Cards for all non-mongering activities at "legit" merchants like hotel, restaurants, retail stores, etc. IF they accept cards and IF they have a legit credit card terminal (I used to be in that business so I can spot card scammers. Mostly).
3. Cash for street vendors, 7-11-ish stores, taxis / Grab.
Does this make sense, or should I just go with cash for all except perhaps hotels? By the way, I'm single, retired and no kids, so I'm not worried about PI transactions on my statements.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
As most of you know, I detest both Americans and America. Imagine my surprise then when my bank contacted me to say someone was having fun with my credit card in the USA. The card is now cancelled and Pedro is being refunded.
Pedro, needless to say, was not at fault. It was, my bank says, a data breach on one of the online stores (or shops) I use; I just got more deliveries this morning. Though I know credit / debit card details are for sale on the dark web, I will never go there as I do not like snake pits.
My advice: ignore the "old hands", many of whom have a crooked hand in the game. In SE Asia, minimize your use of plastic and be very careful where you use plastic.
I seldom use ATMs even at home. I withdraw substantial cash amounts and do most shopping online.
If one practices care with see ash in SE Asia, one should be OK. Those expensive bags, so American, don't appeal to me either, Best to be under the radar.
Travel is stressful and it stretches our logistics as even our own houses do. Burglars know exactly where to look: main bedroom is target number 1. Even in your own house, you have to do the research. The same and more applies when you are in Scam Country.
Tests are done at 3rd level, Terminal 3 NAIA airport. There is a make shift shop set up in the huge vacant area. Easy to find. Just circle around to it.
Yesterday I scouted out the place around 2 pm and there were about 30 people waiting for their results.
Now at 10 am I am the only one here. After taking the sample you have to wait in the waiting area for 30 minutes. Easy process.
Received my printed results in 10 minutes.
P600 is the cost. As always in PH bring the exact amount.
Btw, the sky walkway to T3 (officially called Manila Runway Footbridge) is open again. The unmarked unsigned entrance/exit is behind Belmont Hotel and the side of McDonalds drive up window. If you dont have a lot of luggage to haul around then have your taxi drop you off here. You will bypass the long lines of cars and especially the outside long lines for the entrance security and scanner.
The Philippines has experienced its first major storm of 2022, Tropical Storm Megi, Philippine name Agaton. It hit over the past weekend but accurate reports on deaths and displacements are just now coming in. Already there are reports of about 150 dead and scores of others missing.
Worst of the carnage seems to be on Leyte Island, especially in Abuyog on the eastern coast and Baybay on the western coast. These two towns are almost back-to-back at a point where Leyte Island is only about 15 miles wide. I've been to Abuyog but not Baybay. Both towns experienced mudslides that wiped out small villages and flooding in several other villages. Rescuers have dug out many or most of the buried bodies.
Unlike Typhoon Rai, this storm packed lighter winds, but the real damage was from rainfall. At this latitude Leyte has a hilly, nearly mountainous topography that descends steeply down to water on both sides of the island. But Filipinos try to farm these hillsides with rice, corn, and especially coconut and banana palms. Unfortunately, palms have very shallow roots, and when the soil becomes saturated palm trees offer little protection against soil collapsing on the hill sides. A similar fate in 2006 caused a coconut palm mountainside in the village of Guinsaugon, in St. Bernard, Southern Leyte to collapse, burying the entire village of approximately 1200 people.
Although it's unclear how islands to the west, including Cebu and Negros, may have fared, there are reports of damage across the Western Visayas as well. Some of us should probably expect solicitations for money to repair homes and replace carabao and other losses from the storm. (Dg, you've been warned.) Sorry about the overload of news reports, which span several days from this week.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/asia/philippines-storm-megi-agaton-deaths-floods-evacuations-intl-hnk/index.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/philippines-reports-21-dead-landslides-after-tropical-storm-megi-2022-04-11/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKW-0Spm5Q[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rappler.com/nation/death-toll-leyte-tropical-storm-agaton-april-14-2022/[/URL]
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1583271/agaton-landslides-floods-death-toll-hits-148[/URL]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2685415]As most of you know, I detest both Americans and America. Imagine my surprise then when my bank contacted me to say someone was having fun with my credit card in the USA. The card is now cancelled and Pedro is being refunded.
Pedro, needless to say, was not at fault. It was, my bank says, a data breach on one of the online stores (or shops) I use; I just got more deliveries this morning. Though I know credit / debit card details are for sale on the dark web, I will never go there as I do not like snake pits.
My advice: ignore the "old hands", many of whom have a crooked hand in the game. In SE Asia, minimize your use of plastic and be very careful where you use plastic.
I seldom use ATMs even at home. I withdraw substantial cash amounts and do most shopping online.
If one practices care with see ash in SE Asia, one should be OK. Those expensive bags, so American, don't appeal to me either, Best to be under the radar.
Travel is stressful and it stretches our logistics as even our own houses do. Burglars know exactly where to look: main bedroom is target number 1. Even in your own house, you have to do the research. The same and more applies when you are in Scam Country.[/QUOTE]Well Pedro Morales (o cualquier nombre tienes) you detest a country with 310 million people ++ (because we don't know how many with names like yours?) and everybody that was born there. Do you have the superiority in status, class, and origin to have the expertise to totally degrade a large portion of the planet? Because, they don't a fit into your perfect world? You obviously are an internet bad ass. I must say I am very impressed.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2686048]The Philippines has experienced its first major storm of 2022, Tropical Storm Megi, Philippine name Agaton. It hit over the past weekend but accurate reports on deaths and displacements are just now coming in. Already there are reports of about 150 dead and scores of others missing.
Worst of the carnage seems to be on Leyte Island, especially in Abuyog on the eastern coast and Baybay on the western coast. These two towns are almost back-to-back at a point where Leyte Island is only about 15 miles wide. I've been to Abuyog but not Baybay. Both towns experienced mudslides that wiped out small villages and flooding in several other villages. Rescuers have dug out many or most of the buried bodies.
Although it's unclear how islands to the west, including Cebu and Negros, may have fared, there are reports of damage across the Western Visayas as well. Some of us should probably expect solicitations for money to repair homes and replace carabao and other losses from the storm. (Dg, you've been warned.) Sorry about the overload of news reports, which span several days from this week.[/QUOTE]Baybay was badly hit have v good contacts there (a kinky anal loving GILF / MILF plus others) and have seen the devastation. Been sent videos, picture. Some barangays wiped out, many houses just floated away, lots of dead people etc. Limited power, no running water (water via truck but the kinky GILF has to go collect and that needs large containers she said and takes hours).
So if you do get the message and want to help this is not a scam as Baybay and Abuyog are badly smashed up.
Cebu etc seems OK based if you look at Baybay, bad rain but nothing like the devastation of those 2 towns.
As power is on. Off and very disrupted sending cash can take time to collect.
My 2 cents based on first hand reports from very good people (who are also very naughty kinky and in needs!
[QUOTE=Beavis;2686169]Well Pedro Morales (o cualquier nombre tienes) you detest a country with 310 million people ++ (because we don't know how many with names like yours?) and everybody that was born there. Do you have the superiority in status, class, and origin to have the expertise to totally degrade a large portion of the planet? Because, they don't a fit into your perfect world? You obviously are an internet bad ass. I must say I am very impressed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding to his even more asinine that usual post. Your rebuttal reminded me to put him on my "ignore" list, which I did promptly after reading your post. I had been meaning to do that for a while and somehow never got around to it.
GE.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2685415]As most of you know, I detest both Americans and America.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beavis;2686169]Do you have the superiority in status, class, and origin to have the expertise to totally degrade a large portion of the planet? [/QUOTE]PM recognizes and is honest about his issue. Most xenophobes or racists are too embarrassed to admit their issue. Pedro, on the other hand, is belting it out like Whitney Houston.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2686183]Thanks for responding to his even more asinine that usual post. Your rebuttal reminded me to put him on my "ignore" list, which I did promptly after reading your post. I had been meaning to do that for a while and somehow never got around to it.
GE.[/QUOTE]Obviously someone who has a small penis and no hair. Wow, what an objective Asshole. There are good and bad people from every race and every country yet this jerk off just hates The USA and all Americans. Well we can't hate where he is from because he will not expose his location, ethnicity, or anything else. I have been on this board for 21 years now. Jackson would have expunged this idiot in 3 posts.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2686194]There are good and bad people from every race and every country yet this jerk off just hates The USA and all Americans. Well we can't hate where he is from because he will not expose his location, ethnicity, or anything else. I have been on this board for 21 years now. Jackson would have expunged this idiot in 3 posts.[/QUOTE]Have reported many of his posts to Admin. No response. While I advocated previously for PM saying what he likes (the free speech thingy), his xenophobic outbursts have caused me to use the Ignore List.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2686194]ackson would have expunged this idiot in 3 posts.[/QUOTE]The good-old / bad-old days is gone.
Who is at the helm?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2686201]Have reported many of his posts to Admin. No response. While I advocated previously for PM saying what he likes (the free speech thingy), his xenophobic outbursts have caused me to use the Ignore List.[/QUOTE]The xenophobia is tough to ignore. In the past I foolishly engaged him in conversations, including a silly discussion about the threats of serial killers hovering around sex worker establishments. I should have quit before I started. Oh well, water under the bridge.
I have never put him on ignore; I just mentally ignore the more ridiculous posts. Admittedly, some of his recent posts have included some interesting literary references. In other words, either he has read more widely than most ISG members, he has extracted just enough content out of Wikipedia to sound literate, or he is a skilled plagiarist.
As to his hatred for the US, I understand that many people around the world resent American interventions in other countries. Our record is mixed. Germany and Japan have a lot to be thankful for in American efforts to prop them up following WWII. But Chile under Pinochet and Iran under Shah Riza Palavi were not our proudest moments. But to put things in perspective, Putin makes our interventions, even the Philippines in 1900-1901, look like walks in the park.
I don't think we should hold our collective breath waiting for Jackson to kick him off the board. Despite some of my past frustrating dialogues with him, I just keep him in sort of a mental ignore standing. I just don't take him very seriously.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2686175]Baybay was badly hit have v good contacts there (a kinky anal loving GILF / MILF plus others) and have seen the devastation. Been sent videos, picture. Some barangays wiped out, many houses just floated away, lots of dead people etc. Limited power, no running water (water via truck but the kinky GILF has to go collect and that needs large containers she said and takes hours).
So if you do get the message and want to help this is not a scam as Baybay and Abuyog are badly smashed up.[/QUOTE]Agreed Rog. It looks real ugly. Thanks for filling in the pieces. Soapy.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2686373]The xenophobia is tough to ignore.
But to put things in perspective, Putin makes our interventions, even the Philippines in 1900-1901, look like walks in the park.[/QUOTE](1) Morales is not xenophobic which is a generalized fear, antipathy of anything foreign. Morales's fear & antipathy is focused and not generalized. He is not xenophobia; he is viscerally and irrationally anti-American. Maybe some real American (b) itch spurned him. God knows there are plenty of them.
(2) Two weeks after Commodore Dewey sailed into Manila bay and sank the Spanish fleet, the nascent Germany navy steamed in trying to take advantage of any American weakness to exploit so as to replace the US but then backed off having found none.
In the ensuing insurrection the Philippine resistance to the Americans was divided and fought among themselves for preeminence. The upshot is that the Americans prevented the PI from being taken over by either the Germans, English, and Japanese or all three.
Finally the Americans prevented chaos arising from internecine warfare among competing local factions and united a diverse group into one country using English as its lingua franca. Americans were imperialists but they intended to show the world how to be good imperialists.
Americans are criticized for not breaking up the power of the big Philippine families whose power still presides over the country. But place names like Clark, MacArthur, and Taft still endure as a testimony to the lasting affection that persists between the two countries. Recall that in California the largest Asian minority is Philippine.
So if Mr. Morales hates Americans, and it's a free country, his hatred must perforce extend to the Philippines.
Thanks for all the suggestions and tips. I am now booked on PAL in July. I'm still trying to understand the geography and get a good idea of the "red zones" around Manila. I'm pretty sure AC is really just one red zone, so should be easier to figure out. It's all basically near Walking Street, yes?
Next, I'm looking at hotels in Manila and AC that are:
1. Guest friendly.
2. Next to or in areas with open bars and FL's and / or near known FL locations (like Robinsons Mall?
3. Not shitty (maybe $50-$90 per night).
I will start by reviewing past posts in all relevant boards, and listing any that might meet my needs.
But if any of you have recent info (like less than 30 days old) and can share, please, I'll be in your debt to the tune of 3-5 San Miguels if we get to meet. .
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2686594]
I'm pretty sure AC is really just one red zone, so should be easier to figure out. It's all basically near Walking Street, yes?
Next, I'm looking at hotels in Manila and AC.....[/QUOTE]Yes, the AC scene is basically Walking street and it's extensions. Walking down Fields Ave away from McDonald's you have the Walking St Gogo's, the boom gate stopping vehicular traffic, smaller Gogo's and the popular foreigner drinking bars (lots of very rough street walkers in this area), a stretch of nothingness, then the Perimeter bars. You can walk in a straight line from the start of Walking St to the last if the Perimeter bars but it's a long walk. Trikes are also plentiful. Staying on or near Walking St also has you close to the Mall which has numerous eateries and sales girls keen for some overtime. Note that there isn't a Pattaya equivalent Beer Bar scene in AC.
Unfortunately Manila City is very spread out, with various red light areas some distance apart. Daytime traffic can be horrendous. At night, Makati has probably the best selection but Burgos is not cheap. I prefer to stay in a Greenbelt AirBnB as it's a short taxi ride to most hunting areas and there is a lot nearby to do during the day. Note that the malls in the area are quite high end so don't go propositioning every girl you see. Greenbelt malls and Glorietta are also recognisable landmarks for online girls to find if they are coming in to meet you.
Good luck. G.
[QUOTE=TheRose;2686395](1) Morales is not xenophobic which is a generalized fear, antipathy of anything foreign. Morales's fear & antipathy is focused and not generalized. He is not xenophobia; he is viscerally and irrationally anti-American. Maybe some real American (b) itch spurned him. God knows there are plenty of them.
But place names like Clark, MacArthur, and Taft still endure as a testimony to the lasting affection that persists between the two countries. Recall that in California the largest Asian minority is Philippine.
So if Mr. Morales hates Americans, and it's a free country, his hatred must perforce extend to the Philippines.[/QUOTE]
You are correct about xenophobia, but I'm not convinced that Clark, Taft, and MacArthur are reflections of affection. There has long been an underlying resentment toward the US, and this was the dynamic that prompted some Filipinos to push the removal of American forces from Clark and Subic in the early 1990's. When Duterte proposed to cut off joint exercises with American forces, I think he was tapping into this resentment. It struck some observers as an effort to eliminate a sense of dependency on the US, particularly where armaments were concerned.
It's certainly possible that PM's hatred for Americans extends to Filipinos, but for his hatred to extend "perforce" seems to imply that he knows the historical connections you describe. That may be giving him too much credit.
Can I get a Taxi at Clark Airport easily.
How much (aprox) to a hotel in Fields.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2684424]
Transportation in-city. As mentioned, I have bad knees and as a bigger guy, I'm not sure I'll fit in the trikes. So Grab seems like the way to go for short trips, maybe 4-8 per day depending on daily activities. [/QUOTE]You will definitely not fit in the trikes, nor in the jeepneys. I'm not really a big guy, but I'm quite tall, and I have to fold myself to get in a trike. Jeepneys are easier to get in, but the roof is quite low and the ride is only a little bit less uncomfortable than a trike ride.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2686594]
Next, I'm looking at hotels in Manila and AC that are:
1. Guest friendly.
2. Next to or in areas with open bars and FL's and / or near known FL locations (like Robinsons Mall?
3. Not shitty (maybe $50-$90 per night).
[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.berjayahotel.com/makati[/URL] might be an option for you. It's about 200-300 metres from the bars in P Burgos street. Girl friendly, nice rooms, good breakfast buffet, and most of the rooms are facing a quiet side street.
Another option are the condo's of 'Mosaic Tower by Funsho'. Google it like that. Further away from P Burgos, but very close to the Greenbelt mall, in nicer more Western like surroundings.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2685006]
New question, please: I was reading a long string about money exchange on the AC board and it got me wondering when I should pay by card vs cash. Paying by card reduces the need to bring and exchange cash, and with a Travel Visa card from my primary bank I can avoid or reduce FX fees for most card transactions. I have enough cash to pay off the card bills the next month, so not worried about loading up interest charges. So here's what I'm thinking:
1. Cash for all mongering activities. Barfines, bar bills, ST / LT fees and tips, etc.
2. Cards for all non-mongering activities at "legit" merchants like hotel, restaurants, retail stores, etc. IF they accept cards and IF they have a legit credit card terminal (I used to be in that business so I can spot card scammers. Mostly).
3. Cash for street vendors, 7-11-ish stores, taxis / Grab.
[/QUOTE]Maybe it has already been mentioned, but please be aware that credit card surcharges are illegal in the Philippines. So if your hotel adds a surcharge, just say it's illegal and they will remove it from the bill immediately.
By the way, some hotels offer a 5 or 10% discount if you pay cash. Pre-covid anyway.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2686765]You will definitely not fit in the trikes, nor in the jeepneys. I'm not really a big guy, but I'm quite tall, and I have to fold myself to get in a trike. Jeepneys are easier to get in, but the roof is quite low and the ride is only a little bit less uncomfortable than a trike ride.[/QUOTE]M, you're probably right about trikes and jeepneys, but maybe he should try each once, just to say he did. The jeepney is the more challenging of the two, because there's a steeper learning curve: need to know where the route goes, need to know where to get off, and need to know bayad po and para po.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2686594]Thanks for all the suggestions and tips. I am now booked on PAL in July. I'm still trying to understand the geography and get a good idea of the "red zones" around Manila. I'm pretty sure AC is really just one red zone, so should be easier to figure out. It's all basically near Walking Street, yes?
Next, I'm looking at hotels in Manila and AC that are:
1. Guest friendly.
2. Next to or in areas with open bars and FL's and / or near known FL locations (like Robinsons Mall?
3. Not shitty (maybe $50-$90 per night).
I will start by reviewing past posts in all relevant boards, and listing any that might meet my needs..[/QUOTE]In Manila I prefer Malate. Then again I like Korean, Japanese and Chinese food of which there is and abundance. There are a lot of KTVs but I don't visit. Robinsons place is there and La Cafe but I get 95% of girls online. Never been in a gogo bar. Pricing of reasonable hotels is in your price range. Makati is not so fun to walk around, the malls are overly large and crowded and not very interesting.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2686659]There has long been an underlying resentment toward the US, and this was the dynamic that prompted some Filipinos to push the removal of American forces from Clark and Subic in the early 1990's. When Duterte proposed to cut off joint exercises with American forces, I think he was tapping into this resentment.[/QUOTE](1) Filipinos resented the Japanese not the Americans from the gitgo during WWII and aided GI's for example during the Death March of Bataan and beyond. Unusual for a colonial military to get that kind of support.
(2) The push for the removal of US bases was catalyzed by the puritanical Cardinal Sin who blamed the prostitution on Fields in Angeles and Magsaysay in Olongapo on the presence of the military bases and their horny 20 year old sailors and airman. I am a lot older than 20 and I am still horny. Muddle minded Catholic cleric. He should have gotten his cock sucked by one of those pros on Blow Road.
Interesting note: at one time the Pearl S. Buck foundation had an office in Angeles in the Diamond Subdivision neighborhood whose purpose it was to give assistance to the Philam children of unwed and abandoned mothers. By way of review for the untutored PM, Pearl Buck was the American Nobel Prize winner in literature whose parents were Chinese Christian missionaries. The last time I saw it open was maybe 1996.
(3) Du30's American resentments stemmed from his experience from being a husband to an American wife. Nobody can blame him there.
[QUOTE=TheRose;2686873](1) Filipinos resented the Japanese not the Americans from the gitgo during WWII and aided GI's for example during the Death March of Bataan and beyond. [/QUOTE]I'd say Americans were the lesser of two evils--by a wide margin. It is also true that the US benefited substantially from Filipino guerillas, both in sharing intelligence and planning for the assault on Leyte and the later assault from Lingayen Gulf to Manila. The Huks, for example, a leftist group of rebels, sided with Americans in their efforts to retake Luzon. (The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but only in the short term.) After the war, however, the Huks were a continuous irritant to the Americans, even after the Philippines' 1946 independence. My recently deceased next door neighbor was stationed at Sangley Point Naval Station for several years after the end of the war. He has told me about the American military's ongoing need to protect infrastructure from attacks by the Huks. Technically, the Huks organized against the Japanese around 1942, but they were really part of an ongoing communist movement first focused against the Spanish, but then directing its wrath toward the Americans after the Philippine-American war.
We did not make many Filipino friends during the Philippine-American war. Emilio Aguinaldo, the nominal Philippine (dictatorial) head of state after the 1998 rebellion against Spain, travelled to French IndoChina to negotiate with Commodore Perry following the Spanish-American war. Translation was carried out by a British businessman and led Aguinaldo to believe that Perry was promising to support Philippine independence. Perry's fleet did sink a bunch of the Spanish fleet which had foolishly holed up in behind Cavite Arm, leaving themselves no exit route from Manila Bay. But whether or not Perry had promised to support Philippine independence, it was clear Perry did not follow through to do so. In fact, he secretly negotiated with the Spanish leader in Manila to stage a mock battle and allow the Spanish to escape relatively unscathed. Meanwhile, at the Treaty of Paris, the US agreed to buy the Philippines from Spain. Unfortunately, Filipinos were left out of the loop in negotiations for both the mock battle and the purchase of the Philippines. You can hardly blame Aguinaldo and other Filipinos for their reaction to what appeared to them as American deceit.
There were a number of chilling massacres during the Philippine-American war. One noteworthy one was the massacre of Balangiga in Eastern Samar. The story is told differently by Filipinos and Americans, with both sides attributing horrendous atrocities to the other side. In the process, in addition to a bunch of young Filipinos left dead, Americans stole three significant bells from a historic church in Balangiga and took one to an installation in Korea and the other two to Cheyenne, Wyoming. The US did not relinquish the bells until 2018, despite 117 years of appeals from the Philippines.
Did the US treat Filipinos better than the Spanish had under colonialism? Probably. The Americans expanded schooling to all Filipinos, and they opened hospitals, universities and other facilities to all Filipinos. They also built a civil service and employed Filipinos in its ranks, but for the most part not in positions of decision-making authority. The US tried, relatively unsuccessfully, to create a separation of church and state. But the US also attempted to squash labor organizing, and, therefore, various elements of civil society. One result was an expanding movement of communists, which persists to the present day. There was, for a number of years, a blurred line of organizing activity by Philippine Jesuits and communists. Some of those sentiments still simmer. One might also ask, as Filipinos sometimes do, why it took the US 45 years to grant independence to the Philippines.
As an American I have concluded that my country did better by Filipinos than did the Spanish. And there is no practical comparison to the Japanese. But I am cautious about romanticizing Filipinos' attitudes toward us. The extent of affection may decline somewhat when the source of sentiment is the lower levels of Philippine socio-economics. Poor Filipinas often express affection for us—but mostly for our money and the prospect of being transported to a wealthy Western country. Also, my sense of historical causation is that few events can be reduced to a single event or person, whether it's a Catholic Cardinal or Duterte's anger at a former wife.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2687166]I'd say Americans were the lesser of two evils--by a wide margin. It is also true that the US benefited substantially from Filipino guerillas, both in sharing intelligence and planning for the assault on Leyte and the later assault from Lingayen Gulf to Manila. The Huks, for example, a leftist group of rebels, sided with Americans in their efforts to retake Luzon. (The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but only in the short term.) After the war, however, the Huks were a continuous irritant to the Americans, even after the Philippines' 1946 independence. My recently deceased next door neighbor was stationed at Sangley Point Naval Station for several years after the end of the war. He has told me about the American military's ongoing need to protect infrastructure from attacks by the Huks. Technically, the Huks organized against the Japanese around 1942, but they were really part of an ongoing communist movement first focused against the Spanish, but then directing its wrath toward the Americans after the Philippine-American war.
We did not make many Filipino friends during the Philippine-American war. Emilio Aguinaldo, the nominal Philippine (dictatorial) head of state after the 1998 rebellion against Spain, travelled to French IndoChina to negotiate with Commodore Perry following the Spanish-American war. Translation was carried out by a British businessman and led Aguinaldo to believe that Perry was promising to support Philippine independence. Perry's fleet did sink a bunch of the Spanish fleet which had foolishly holed up in behind Cavite Arm, leaving themselves no exit route from Manila Bay. But whether or not Perry had promised to support Philippine independence, it was clear Perry did not follow through to do so. In fact, he secretly negotiated with the Spanish leader in Manila to stage a mock battle and allow the Spanish to escape relatively unscathed. Meanwhile, at the Treaty of Paris, the US agreed to buy the Philippines from Spain. Unfortunately, Filipinos were left out of the loop in negotiations for both the mock battle and the purchase of the Philippines. You can hardly blame Aguinaldo and other Filipinos for their reaction to what appeared to them as American deceit.
There were a number of chilling massacres during the Philippine-American war. One noteworthy one was the massacre of Balangiga in Eastern Samar. The story is told differently by Filipinos and Americans, with both sides attributing horrendous atrocities to the other side. In the process, in addition to a bunch of young Filipinos left dead, Americans stole three significant bells from a historic church in Balangiga and took one to an installation in Korea and the other two to Cheyenne, Wyoming. The US did not relinquish the bells until 2018, despite 117 years of appeals from the Philippines.
Did the US treat Filipinos better than the Spanish had under colonialism? Probably. The Americans expanded schooling to all Filipinos, and they opened hospitals, universities and other facilities to all Filipinos. They also built a civil service and employed Filipinos in its ranks, but for the most part not in positions of decision-making authority. The US tried, relatively unsuccessfully, to create a separation of church and state. But the US also attempted to squash labor organizing, and, therefore, various elements of civil society. One result was an expanding movement of communists, which persists to the present day. There was, for a number of years, a blurred line of organizing activity by Philippine Jesuits and communists. Some of those sentiments still simmer. One might also ask, as Filipinos sometimes do, why it took the US 45 years to grant independence to the Philippines.
As an American I have concluded that my country did better by Filipinos than did the Spanish. And there is no practical comparison to the Japanese. But I am cautious about romanticizing Filipinos' attitudes toward us. The extent of affection may decline somewhat when the source of sentiment is the lower levels of Philippine socio-economics. Poor Filipinas often express affection for usbut mostly for our money and the prospect of being transported to a wealthy Western country. Also, my sense of historical causation is that few events can be reduced to a single event or person, whether it's a Catholic Cardinal or Duterte's anger at a former wife.[/QUOTE]And all of these actions were decided by about 1,000 or less idiots in Washington, the. See. Politicians poorly represent the entire population of any country. Plenty of good and bad people in any land.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2686594]Thanks for all the suggestions and tips. I am now booked on PAL in July. I'm still trying to understand the geography and get a good idea of the "red zones" around Manila. I'm pretty sure AC is really just one red zone, so should be easier to figure out. It's all basically near Walking Street, yes?
Next, I'm looking at hotels in Manila and AC that are:
1. Guest friendly.
2. Next to or in areas with open bars and FL's and / or near known FL locations (like Robinsons Mall?
3. Not shitty (maybe $50-$90 per night).
I will start by reviewing past posts in all relevant boards, and listing any that might meet my needs.
But if any of you have recent info (like less than 30 days old) and can share, please, I'll be in your debt to the tune of 3-5 San Miguels if we get to meet. .[/QUOTE]Hello kat is this your first time going to the philippines? How long are you planning on staying and what is your game plan p4 p or dating or mix of both? Are you planning on going to the islands or other cities or is it just manila?
Where's usually the cheapest place to fly from either Manilla or Cebu?
Hopefully cancellable and refundable. Planning a stay of longer than 30 days.
Tia.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2687306]Where's usually the cheapest place to fly from either Manilla or Cebu?
Hopefully cancellable and refundable. Planning a stay of longer than 30 days.
Tia.[/QUOTE]X why = Z.
Z = where?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2687313]X why = Z.
Z = where?[/QUOTE]Cheers. Helpful.
I'll be entering on the 30 day visa on arrival. It's my understanding I need to show an onward ticket within that 30 day period, even though I'll be extending it.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2687306]Where's usually the cheapest place to fly from either Manilla or Cebu?
Hopefully cancellable and refundable. Planning a stay of longer than 30 days..[/QUOTE]I used to have a CRK. HKG flight as backup.
I am usually asked for this when checking in for my flight as it is the inbound airlines responsibility to ensure you meet the outbound flight info.
Many airlines are offering free date changes. Would you consider getting your return flight on your inbound ticket and then changing your return dates. One less complication.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2687335]Cheers. Helpful.
I'll be entering on the 30 day visa on arrival. It's my understanding I need to show an onward ticket within that 30 day period, even though I'll be extending it.[/QUOTE]If you buy a refundable fare does the departure and destination matter?
[QUOTE=CPO59;2686745]Can I get a Taxi at Clark Airport easily.
How much (aprox) to a hotel in Fields.[/QUOTE]There is a company called blue taxi. Google it. 500 pesos to fields. 24/7.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2687335]Cheers. Helpful.
I'll be entering on the 30 day visa on arrival. It's my understanding I need to show an onward ticket within that 30 day period, even though I'll be extending it.[/QUOTE]Yes you'll need a throwaway ticket from what I gather. The bigger question everyone is trying to find out is will you be able to extend that 30 day visa once your on the ground. I've talked to a visa agent who said the Manila IB isn't extending visas but the Angeles City IB is giving extensions. And from what I have read you need to apply for the visa extension within 7 days after landing. If anyone has firsthand knowledge of what's happening on the ground please report.
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2687253]Hello kat is this your first time going to the philippines? How long are you planning on staying and what is your game plan p4 p or dating or mix of both? Are you planning on going to the islands or other cities or is it just manila?[/QUOTE]Hi BorComplex. It's all in my original post, but here you go:
I will be there for three weeks, split between Manila and AC.
I plan on a mix of FLs and bar girls, but will look at dating apps as I get closer to arrival in July.
Staying in the Manila and AC areas only. No other islands for this 1st time trip.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2687850]Hi BorComplex.[/QUOTE]Is that a typo or throwing shade LOL!
In preparation for my trip next week, I've been working the sites just as I have for umpteen years now. It requires effort and attention to detail. A monger diligently plying his trade using the tools available to him. There's a sense of history and inevitability to it. The classically educated among us will perhaps draw parallels with Alexander's campaign.
And, I'm happy to report that I've noticed that the online dating scene is heating up. Quick responses. Plans being made. An eagerness to meet. Its like old times and a complete turnaround from my February trip when everything was dead including the sites. One indicator I thought was telling was that several of the girls were very attentive to my preference that they should wear the lingerie that they showed in their profiles. Responses such as 'Don I'll wear the pink ones for you' are greatly appreciated and show a great attitude.
I think its going to be a great trip.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2688210]In preparation for my trip next week, I've been working the sites just as I have for umpteen years now. It requires effort and attention to detail. A monger diligently plying his trade using the tools available to him.[/QUOTE]In your planning, what is the flake-out / ghosting rate that you are planning on?
I recall previously I used to expect a turn-up rate of 1 in 3.
As well as dating sites prospects I'm also leaving some spare days for whatever happens. I usually find that over each week there will be some random girl that picks me up from a jeepney, outside a 7-11 or some other chance encounter and I have to leave space for one of those each few days. Now I am thinking about it, the 'chance' encounters in Ph are exciting and rarely happen to a 55+ year old in his home country.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2688245]In your planning, what is the flake-out / ghosting rate that you are planning on?
I recall previously I used to expect a turn-up rate of 1 in 3.
[/QUOTE]Hitting the apps 2 weeks from arrival I've batted 0 for 100 before.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267691]That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!....
[/QUOTE]If I'm here now, at least 50% of those agreeing to meet actually show and of these I'd fuck about 75% (old photos, an extra 40 lbs, no chemistry etc).
If it's 10 pm and "come and suck my dick all night for 3 k" it's 100%. Actually I've had to back out from several girls heading over at the same time.
Enjoy. G.
Anyone know if the bar scene is alive in puerto galera right now?
[QUOTE=Transporter;2689030]Anyone know if the bar scene is alive in puerto galera right now?[/QUOTE]Sure. If you want to pay 7 k bar fines for girls that only want to give a quick ST. 😱.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2689091]Sure. If you want to pay 7 k bar fines for girls that only want to give a quick ST. 😱.[/QUOTE]Once was good now overpriced and perf is crap.
Wouldn't bother going back and competing with weekend Korean millionairres. At least girls appreciate small dicks.
Girls there say they are laughing. Some guys even fall asleep drunk before they do the deed, wake up and give them a tip.
The girls have to work too hard for Westerners.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2688210]In preparation for my trip next week, I've been working the sites just as I have for umpteen years now. It requires effort and attention to detail. A monger diligently plying his trade using the tools available to him. There's a sense of history and inevitability to it. The classically educated among us will perhaps draw parallels with Alexander's campaign.
And, I'm happy to report that I've noticed that the online dating scene is heating up. Quick responses. Plans being made. An eagerness to meet. Its like old times and a complete turnaround from my February trip when everything was dead including the sites. One indicator I thought was telling was that several of the girls were very attentive to my preference that they should wear the lingerie that they showed in their profiles. Responses such as 'Don I'll wear the pink ones for you' are greatly appreciated and show a great attitude.
I think its going to be a great trip.[/QUOTE]I was there in Manila back in March and before I got there I tried my luck with Alua. More younger ones there and a few made efforts to meet up. Met up with one, and pretty soon it turned out to be "I needed to give more money since she was the only breadwinner of the family and she thought the condom had a leak and she needed to get checked to end the potential pregnancy so could I give another 6000 peso" crap fest that went on and on and this young chick was sobbing until I had to get her out since I was on company time down there and 5000 pesos pales in comparison to what I would lose if I went off old school on this chick. Got her out of my room and in a taxi and didn't follow up with her.
Then some kept saying they are coming and wound up pulling I can't make it at the last minute, etc. Keep in mind Alua is a more expensive site where you wind up paying per 10 characters they send you. So from that point I just went dark on that and counted that as a loss. Met one on Massage Republic who came through but didn't keep her on the team. There are a lot of outcall services on Telegram that I kept getting texts from. One that I had met from Tagged during the height of the pandemic did come through, actually had a good time and I had promised here a larger amount due to past dealings but once paid, I started getting the its my kids birthday coming up or my sick mother.
Best bet, just go to some of the GoGo clubs or to LA Cafe and pull you one from there and make a deal for your time there.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2689100]Girls there say they are laughing. Some guys even fall asleep drunk before they do the deed, wake up and give them a tip.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised by this. Having been with Koreans doing the bar scene in Seoul I always sensed that much of the purpose was to show off arm candy to their friends.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2689100]Once was good now overpriced and perf is crap.
[/QUOTE]I have many great memories of Sabang. I prefer to leave it at that, rather than return and try to force a good time.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2689130]..... Keep in mind Alua is a more expensive site where you wind up paying per 10 characters they send you. ......
Best bet, just go to some of the GoGo clubs or to LA Cafe and pull you one from there and make a deal for your time there.[/QUOTE]What is the attraction of the so called high end sites (Alua, Seeking etc)? I read of guys spending serious coin just to go on a platonic dinner date or put up with primadonna attitudes.
Is it a search for prettier, more educated or English speaking girls? Or is it some sort of FinDom experience where the guys enjoy being subservient?
As the good DrB says, why do this when one can walk into any number of bars, KTVs or websites and have a hassle free experience?
If I ever want a laugh, I quite often have a read of the Seeking Forum here to read of many guys paying big bucks to develope a "relationship" with a hooker only to be treated like shit. I've never understood it.
Cheers. G.
Sorry for all the questions. But read thru much of the threads in each of the forums and did not see these questions fully answered or being brought up. Any help would be greatly appreciated as it'll be my first time there and will be a complete rookie. I've posted questions in other forums (where they belong) as I don't want to bog down this one in regards to hotels and things for other areas.
Is the new holy trifecta (Tinder, Pinalove, Bumble) the best bet? Is FilipinoCupid, TanTan, and OyOy still another good option? Should I bother going to a barangay for "company" or would that be too advanced for my first time here? LOL Is WhatsApp or LINE better here? Carry a paper copy of my passport and IDs with me instead of the actual things? A team of us are going in, all different shades LOL white, black, brown, and yellow. Was wondering how much luck each one would have, want to make sure we don't indirectly cockblock each other. All in our late 20's, early 30's. Are the condoms there "western" sized?
What bank ATMs are best for withdrawing money if your bank is in the US? Also, are the ATM fees bad? Read about ATM issues (cloning, skimming, ID theft, etc.). Is it possible to have the hotel give you a cash advance on your card or just bill it to your room? Some guys had mentioned driving back to the Airport just to pull more money, but not sure if its worth it if you can only pull $200 per day. Signed up for some SW groups on FB, but hard to understand the lingo and acronyms, are these pretty easy to use for getting girls over?
Should I bother with any massage parlors (need a minimum of BBBJ and max of FS)? Can you get PrEP OTC? Should I pack some nice looking clothes (I. E. Collared polo, jeans, nice shoes) or can I get into any establishment with shorts and a reg shirt? Not sure if some places have dress codes. Thanks Westie for your answers on my prior questions. I hope my short internship there will lighten the burden and assist you all in your strenuous vaxxing endeavors.
Pre-flight.
Will a PCR test be needed if I'm flying between cities in the Philippines (I. E. AC to Manila)? Medical insurance?
Arrival.
Transportation to hotel still available late at night? Sim card (bring own phone or best to buy one there?) I know someone had a cab driver on call they were willing to share. I couldn't find the post again, would it be possible to PM me the info? Also, will the money changers and cell phone companies be open after 10 pm at the airport in Manila? Regular Cabs rates this late?
Departure.
Where can I get a PCR test before departing in Manila? Will need it to return back to my country of origin.
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2689421]Sorry for all the questions. But read thru much of the threads in each of the forums and did not see these questions fully answered or being brought up. Any help would be greatly appreciated as it'll be my first time there and will be a complete rookie. I've posted questions in other forums (where they belong) as I don't want to bog down this one in regards to hotels and things for other areas.
Is the new holy trifecta (Tinder, Pinalove, Bumble) the best bet? Is FilipinoCupid, TanTan, and OyOy still another good option? Should I bother going to a barangay for "company" or would that be too advanced for my first time here? LOL Is WhatsApp or LINE better here? Carry a paper copy of my passport and IDs with me instead of the actual things? A team of us are going in, all different shades LOL white, black, brown, and yellow. Was wondering how much luck each one would have, want to make sure we don't indirectly cockblock each other. All in our late 20's, early 30's. Are the condoms there "western" sized?[/QUOTE]My preferences in order are PL DIA Tan Tan Tinder Wechat. I have scored with all but I haven't had feet on the ground for 2 years so try them all.
Load up Whatsapp, Viber, Line, Wechat, IMO, Instagram (with fake profile) and messenger (set up a fake profile). Also have a dummy email account that you can use incognito.
Cash exchange rates are good but shop around. ATM fees are high and most ATMs have a 10 K limit. I've never asked a hotel to change cash or advance on a card. Many businesses take credit cards.
I don't use condoms but the best bet is bring your own to ensure you have what suits you.
I haven't found massage shops to be good sources of anything but a massage. Only once offered a hand job. I usually have been in Makati or Malate and its not like Thailand with pretty girls spruiking, its more older ladies giving massages.
I dress smart casual if meeting a lady externally, crap casual when wandering around and crap casual when meeting in my room as the clothes come off in 2 minutes. Just pack some nice deodorant.
Heck the Philippines visa section of your local embassy for the latest requirements for travel.
See you own governments travel requirements for reentry.
[QUOTE=Drbombay;2689130]I had promised here a larger amount due to past dealings but once paid, I started getting the its my kids birthday coming up or my sick mother.
Best bet, just go to some of the GoGo clubs or to LA Cafe and pull you one from there and make a deal for your time there.[/QUOTE]We tried to tell you when you called yourself buying gifts for chicks on tagged or whatever and sending money saying it is only $10 or $50. The more you give, the more they are going to want.
Nobody is looking at you better than us Kuripot Kelvins because you have a big heart. They are only looking at you as the bank they can depend on. Stop trying to play the big baller Daddy Morebucks. I guess you learned there is nothing to gain from it excpet more begging.
Do you guys bring your laptops or any other electronics? (besides obvious phones) Is it pretty safe and secure to leave your things in your room or in the Safe? I know not to leave it out when I have "company" or LTs haha primarily mean when I'm out and about hunting or touristing.
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2690140]Do you guys bring your laptops or any other electronics? (besides obvious phones) Is it pretty safe and secure to leave your things in your room or in the Safe? I know not to leave it out when I have "company" or LTs haha primarily mean when I'm out and about hunting or touristing.[/QUOTE]I always have a full suite of electronics, phones, laptop, chargers, iPad etc.
Personally over ten years of travelling to PH I have not had anything stolen.
As an aside, I used to be annoyed with the "on-checkout" room check that the hotels do counting pillows and coffee bags or whatever. They have also found my forgotten things like phone chargers, tooth brush.
What are the thoughts about buying up some RATS and carrying them with me for girls that need to have covid tests before hotel entry?
Are RATs available to buy locally in Ph? My local Au price is about P250/ test.
TetoxiCare Molecular Diagnostics Laboratory.
Unit 204 High Point Medical Hub, #241 Shaw Blvd, Mandaluyong City.
In addition, see pics. Numerous places offering Covid tests, complete with contact phone numbers, hours of operation, and locations.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2690373]In addition, see pics. Numerous places offering Covid tests, complete with contact phone numbers, hours of operation, and locations.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. That lead to me to discover [URL]https://region6.deped.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/RM-No.-173-s.-2022-Advisory-on-the-Price-Cap-for-Covid-19-Testing-Kits-and-Services.pdf[/URL] which identified the P350 price cap in individual RAT tests minimal price arbitrage of about P50/ test.
I still think I'll carry some for personal use if needed.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2690432]Thanks for that. That lead to me to discover [URL]https://region6.deped.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/RM-No.-173-s.-2022-Advisory-on-the-Price-Cap-for-Covid-19-Testing-Kits-and-Services.pdf[/URL] which identified the P350 price cap in individual RAT tests minimal price arbitrage of about P50/ test.
I still think I'll carry some for personal use if needed.[/QUOTE]Bring some. It's one thing for the pricing to be set and another for the availability of actual product.
[QUOTE=GenXBaer;2690502]Bring some. It's one thing for the pricing to be set and another for the availability of actual product.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I will pack some. These days here they are supermarket items. Oh for the first world.
Ok, so Business Class airfare booked on PAL; got a decent price after the fuel price surge faded away. I'll start in Malate / Ermita, then take a bus to AC, then return to P Burgos for my final week. After researching over 50 hotels (yes, I am that anal, sadly) I've got these 3 on my radar:
Malate / Ermita: Sunny Bay Suites.
AC / Feilds: Orchard Inn Resort (not Wild Orchard).
P Burgos: Makati Palace Hotel.
All priced at $60-70/ night for decent room, which is well within my hotel budget. All are guest friendly, as far as I can tell, but are they really? All have the dates I want open and available for booking online.
Once I'm in each location, I'll enter hunter / gatherer mode and see how much fun I can have. Acquistion targets include Bar Fine girls, FL's, and I'll dabble with Apps as well once in-country.
Anyone see any red or yellow flags in my lodging selections?
Always appreciate your feedback and opinions.
I expect to generate at least one FR for each area.
Thanks for your help!
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2690880]Anyone see any red or yellow flags in my lodging selections?[/QUOTE]1) Pick up phone.
2) Don't Google.
3) Do dial each hotel's phone number and confirm: Are they open on your dates? What is there guest policy?
Then, 2 days prior to your flight, confirm by doing it again.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2690880]Ok, so Business Class airfare booked on PAL; got a decent price after the fuel price surge faded away. I'll start in Malate / Ermita, then take a bus to AC, then return to P Burgos for my final week. After researching over 50 hotels (yes, I am that anal, sadly) I've got these 3 on my radar:
Malate / Ermita: Sunny Bay Suites.
AC / Feilds: Orchard Inn Resort (not Wild Orchard).
P Burgos: Makati Palace Hotel.
All priced at $60-70/ night for decent room, which is well within my hotel budget. All are guest friendly, as far as I can tell, but are they really? All have the dates I want open and available for booking online.
Once I'm in each location, I'll enter hunter / gatherer mode and see how much fun I can have. Acquistion targets include Bar Fine girls, FL's, and I'll dabble with Apps as well once in-country.
Anyone see any red or yellow flags in my lodging selections?
Always appreciate your feedback and opinions.
I expect to generate at least one FR for each area.
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]Pack plenty of Vitamin V and Plan be pills.
Also bring or buy some hydrogen peroxide for cleaning blood spots on the bedding!
Most girls appreciate a new toothbrush and mouth wash. Buy some if your hotel doesn’t stock them. Also a comb or hairbrush. Nice shampoo and conditioner if they are staying LT. Most girls don’t have decent showers to shampoo and condition their hair.
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2689421]
Is the new holy trifecta (Tinder, Pinalove, Bumble) the best bet? Is FilipinoCupid, TanTan, and OyOy still another good option?.[/QUOTE]I have had good experiences with IndonesianCupid in the past. This time I managed to get atleast 5 good contacts in manila and cebu using Filipinocupid. My trip in Phili is 13-22 then Indonesia before heading back to home Melbourne through bali.
I clearly mention the below in the profle.
* I won't transfer money before meetup.
* I am not looking for marriage.
* Will share photos only in whatsapp due to privacy reasons.
I always ask them to read the profile before asking questions in whatsapp. So far it has helped removing lot of fuss and dramas.
Only the time will tell after the trip. Having said that I have only had good experiences with the above approach in Indonesia.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2690880]Ok, so Business Class airfare booked on PAL; got a decent price after the fuel price surge faded away. I'll start in Malate / Ermita, then take a bus to AC, then return to P Burgos for my final week. After researching over 50 hotels (yes, I am that anal, sadly) I've got these 3 on my radar:
Malate / Ermita: Sunny Bay Suites.
AC / Feilds: Orchard Inn Resort (not Wild Orchard).
P Burgos: Makati Palace Hotel.
All priced at $60-70/ night for decent room, which is well within my hotel budget. All are guest friendly, as far as I can tell, but are they really? All have the dates I want open and available for booking online.
Once I'm in each location, I'll enter hunter / gatherer mode and see how much fun I can have. Acquistion targets include Bar Fine girls, FL's, and I'll dabble with Apps as well once in-country.[/QUOTE]Be careful with this hotel because they will check for damages upon checkout. If they find anything a mess even if you were not the culprit, they will charge you arm and leg.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2690880]Malate / Ermita: Sunny Bay Suites.
AC / Feilds: Orchard Inn Resort (not Wild Orchard).
P Burgos: Makati Palace Hotel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nolz7;2691397]Be careful with this hotel because they will check for damages upon checkout. If they find anything a mess even if you were not the culprit, they will charge you arm and leg.[/QUOTE]HK mentioned 3 places. NZ, which one are you referring to?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2691493]HK mentioned 3 places. NZ, which one are you referring to?[/QUOTE]All hotels inspect the rooms upon check out. A few times I had to pay for blood stained sheets, which I expected to.
I've been reviewing the threads and appreciate all the info. The info provided to MrHappyKat was particularly useful. I just have a couple of questions.
1) what is the estimated walking time from the ABC hotel to Walking Street? On the map it only seems about 5 blocks away.
2) Which one has the better pool area for daytime relaxing.
I'm leaning towards ABC, but I do like the proximity of the Central Park Towers.
Lastly, what is the easiest way from MNL to Angeles? I. Sure after the flight I'll be more interested in comfort and speed rather than cheapest option. I think I saw a cab as being quoted to be about 3,500 pesos. Is Grab about the same? I also saw where Genesis bus was mentioned. Do you pay for these in advance or is it pay when you show up and they pack the bus?
Thanks for the help. Looking forward to my 1st time there and a long needed break.
[QUOTE=Nolz7;2691397]Be careful with this hotel because they will check for damages upon checkout. If they find anything a mess even if you were not the culprit, they will charge you arm and leg.[/QUOTE]I have called Sunny Bay and Makati Palace and verified their guest-friendly policy and my dates are open. No answer when I call Orchard Inn. Yet, so I may switch to a back up.
No matter the hotel, I will make a point of taking pics of the room from several angles at check-in and will report anything I see to the front desk. I'm not really worried about blood on the sheets. I have no plans to BF a virgin and, as a Kat, I'm not packing anything more likely to be found on a horse. LOL But what don't I know about that I should?
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2691535]But what don't I know about that I should?[/QUOTE]It's not something you need to be paranoid about.
I've seen many more hotels than I'd like to admit and have only been charged for one set of sheets that were indeed my / her fault. I've never come across a grand conspiracy to defraud guests. I've even caused minor damage and been able to just walk away.
I'd be far more concerned about ensuring the facilities met my tastes and intended use.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2691493]HK mentioned 3 places. NZ, which one are you referring to?[/QUOTE]Sunny Bay Suites, I stayed there every time I was in Manila due to the proximity to LA Cafe. I time they found a hairline tear on the sofa which I am sure I was not the culprit as I did seat on it. I had to cough out 2 grand.
[QUOTE=BiggusDickus9;2691534]I've been reviewing the threads and appreciate all the info. The info provided to MrHappyKat was particularly useful. I just have a couple of questions.
1) what is the estimated walking time from the ABC hotel to Walking Street? On the map it only seems about 5 blocks away.
2) Which one has the better pool area for daytime relaxing.
I'm leaning towards ABC, but I do like the proximity of the Central Park Towers.
Lastly, what is the easiest way from MNL to Angeles? I. Sure after the flight I'll be more interested in comfort and speed rather than cheapest option. I think I saw a cab as being quoted to be about 3,500 pesos. Is Grab about the same? I also saw where Genesis bus was mentioned. Do you pay for these in advance or is it pay when you show up and they pack the bus?
Thanks for the help. Looking forward to my 1st time there and a long needed break.[/QUOTE]In my opinion ABC is a better hotel if you don't mind paying a little more and the walking distance of about 10 minutes sprinted walk. The hotel also provides free drop off to walking street or you can just take a trike. Central Park is a decent option if you want to be closer to the walking street with no hassle.
Manila to AC, fastest and comfortable option is to take a cab, if you don't mind the fare. No need to wait for the bus. Genesis is a cheaper option but you may have to wait for the bus. You pay inside the bus.
[QUOTE=BiggusDickus9;2691534] Genesis bus was mentioned. Do you pay for these in advance or is it pay when you show up and they pack the bus?
.[/QUOTE]NAIA Terminal 3, near Bay 1. No reservation needed, pay on the bus, 380 pesos. The conductor will place your baggage in the hold and ask where you're going. Your stop is SM Clark. Of couse, bring your smaller handcarry on the bus.
[QUOTE=BiggusDickus9;2691534]
Lastly, what is the easiest way from MNL to Angeles? I. Sure after the flight I'll be more interested in comfort and speed rather than cheapest option.[/QUOTE]By far the easiest way for a tired newbie, who isn't cost focussed, to get to AC is to tell your hotel to pick you up. Any decent hotel can arrange door to door transfers from NAIA for about an extra 1000 p surcharge.
All you need to do is watch out at arrivals for the guy with your name on a sign. All they need is your flight details. Costs are typically added to your room bill. Nothing is totally guaranteed but most hotels also try to weed out the totally insane drivers.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2691535]No matter the hotel, I will make a point of taking pics of the room from several angles at check-in and will report anything I see to the front desk. I'm not really worried about blood on the sheets. I have no plans to BF a virgin and, as a Kat, I'm not packing anything more likely to be found on a horse. LOL But what don't I know about that I should?[/QUOTE]It seems that you are going to PH for the first time.
You don't need to fuck a virgin to get bloody sheets.
It is completely normal for Pinays getting their Menstruation suddenly.
And unexpected during your sessions.
Most likely you will also experience this, so be prepared.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2691666]. Any decent hotel can arrange door to door transfers from NAIA for about an extra 1000 p surcharge..
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Just for clarity, I meant that the hotel will charge about a 1000 p surcharge on top of what a self hire or taxi will charge not that the door to door fee will be 1000 p. Expect a bill in the 5 k range.
Look at this form 02:30 min:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMZGt0ejoI[/URL]
They want to split the one health in registering 24 h before and again 4 to 1 hours before the departure.
It all seems to be some really unnecessary BS. But what should we expect from officials in the PH?
To the fellows who have sampled the various destinations, if you were back in your early 30's and had the chance to retire on $2500 passive income per month, where would you choose? More specifically, I'm having the hardest time figuring out where the attitudes of the population are fun, welcoming and friendly to be around. Most recent reports make it sound like Thailand is no longer very friendly, so it seems Philippines and Indonesia are all that's left so I figured I'd ask here in case I'm missing something.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2691691]It seems that you are going to PH for the first time.
[/QUOTE]Well you are spot on, Sir!
Ok so I called all three hotels and heard what I wanted to hear. Now I am booked into all my desired hotels. I think.
Still waiting for email confirmation form Sunny Bay Suites, along with confirmation of my transfer from MNL Term 2 to the hotel. I know that will cost extra, but after a 14-hour flight it will be worth it to see a guy holding a sign with my name on it who will get me there efficiently.
I've scheduled appointments for m travel vaccinations and now I just follow the script, pack and fly.
Thanks to all for your suggestions, tips and sage advice.
WC1.
Cannot reply mailbox full.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2691948]WC1.
Cannot reply mailbox full.[/QUOTE]Its done.
WC.
[QUOTE=MikeBen78;2691852].....so it seems Philippines and Indonesia are all that's left so I figured I'd ask here in case I'm missing something.[/QUOTE]Add Cambodia and Vietnam to your research list. I could see $2500 disappearing quickly in Japan, Korea, Singapore and even Malaysia but there are ways of living cheaply everywhere.
Thailand, Indo and Vietnam have the best food.
Philippines is the most English only friendly.
Thailand has the best infrastructure and medical facilities.
Provincial Philippines is the most welcoming.
Philippines has the longest and easiest tourist visas.
Vietnam has the cheapest girls.
All except Philippines will need some local language skills esp in the provincial areas.
Prettiest girls?? YMMV.
Good luck. G.
This use to be part of the Mansion Group. Yes, it was pretty run-down by the time it was sold, and the name changed.
[QUOTE=Nolz7;2691551]Sunny Bay Suites, I stayed there every time I was in Manila due to the proximity to LA Cafe. I time they found a hairline tear on the sofa which I am sure I was not the culprit as I did seat on it. I had to cough out 2 grand.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2691658]NAIA Terminal 3, near Bay 1. No reservation needed, pay on the bus, 380 pesos. The conductor will place your baggage in the hold and ask where you're going. Your stop is SM Clark. Of couse, bring your smaller handcarry on the bus.[/QUOTE]The genesis timetable says last bus 7 pm from NAIA to Clark. My scheduled arrival is 7 pm. From pre-pandemic days I remember they used to just wait anyways. Until about an hour after my flight arrived.
I'm assuming it's still the same, any intel on last departure?
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2692623]The genesis timetable says last bus 7 pm from NAIA to Clark. My scheduled arrival is 7 pm. From pre-pandemic days I remember they used to just wait anyways. Until about an hour after my flight arrived.
I'm assuming it's still the same, any intel on last departure?[/QUOTE]Pre pandemic days my buses always left on time to the minute. Of course I did not take the last bus of the day either. The buses then were around the clock.
It's very confusing and sensless. What if you have a late connecting flight and are running to the gate and miss the second 1-hour check-in? Unless you can do it all on the first leg of the journey. Hopefully someone can report back on the experience.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2691822]Look at this form 02:30 min:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdMZGt0ejoI[/URL]
They want to split the one health in registering 24 h before and again 4 to 1 hours before the departure.
It all seems to be some really unnecessary BS. But what should we expect from officials in the PH?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2692667]It's very confusing and sensless. What if you have a late connecting flight and are running to the gate and miss the second 1-hour check-in? Unless you can do it all on the first leg of the journey. Hopefully someone can report back on the experience.[/QUOTE]I've been through it, and its not all that bad. Its a bit confusing, and not all the time the upload is successful, may have to repeat many times. Even after I successfully completed all the steps I still was unable to pass at the airport and had to go through the "long" process. But the good news is the long process was very easy, and quite fast. There is a lot of staff and I just had to provide all the documents in person. Basically took an extra 3-5 minutes, so I didn't have any difficulty. My biggest concern is the departure process ATM.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2692678]I've been through it, and its not all that bad. Its a bit confusing, and not all the time the upload is successful, may have to repeat many times. Even after I successfully completed all the steps I still was unable to pass at the airport and had to go through the "long" process. But the good news is the long process was very easy, and quite fast. There is a lot of staff and I just had to provide all the documents in person. Basically took an extra 3-5 minutes, so I didn't have any difficulty. My biggest concern is the departure process ATM.[/QUOTE]Its confusing. The new system starts May 4. Inbound foreigners will have to wait until 24 hours prior to their departure (previously 3 days) to register. Then the must log in again 12 hours prior to departure to complete another step. Then again 4 hours prior to departure to complete a final step.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2692736]Its confusing. The new system starts May 4. Inbound foreigners will have to wait until 24 hours prior to their departure (previously 3 days) to register. Then the must log in again 12 hours prior to departure to complete another step. Then again 4 hours prior to departure to complete a final step.[/QUOTE]I don't know why I do this shit to myself.
I was the mongering test pilot for the Phuket sandbox scheme. It would now appear I'm going to end up doing the same for the new PI entry system.
Will report back when I start step 1 in 12 hours time.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2692736]Its confusing. The new system starts May 4. Inbound foreigners will have to wait until 24 hours prior to their departure (previously 3 days) to register. Then the must log in again 12 hours prior to departure to complete another step. Then again 4 hours prior to departure to complete a final step.[/QUOTE]I watched the video and it looks simple.
The step they missed is for mongers to pre-book themselves in for an STI screen upon returning home.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2692647]Pre pandemic days my buses always left on time to the minute. Of course I did not take the last bus of the day either. The buses then were around the clock.[/QUOTE]My bus NAIA-CRK left 5-10 minutes BEFORE the scheduled time, as it was already full.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2692750]I don't know why I do this shit to myself.
I was the mongering test pilot for the Phuket sandbox scheme. It would now appear I'm going to end up doing the same for the new PI entry system.
Will report back when I start step 1 in 12 hours time.[/QUOTE]So, I've completed the first part. Pretty confusing.
I'm fairly sure I need to book a night in a quarantine hotel, but before I got past the first page indicating my dates of travel, I had no idea of this.
Can anyone confirm?
[QUOTE=JJanni;2692962]So, I've completed the first part. Pretty confusing.
I'm fairly sure I need to book a night in a quarantine hotel, but before I got past the first page indicating my dates of travel, I had no idea of this.
Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]For fully vaccinated travellers, no longer any quarantine hotel requirement.
Philippines airlines ahs a good summary [URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/ph/home/covid-19/arrivingintheph[/URL].
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2692772]I watched the video and it looks simple.
The step they missed is for mongers to pre-book themselves in for an STI screen upon returning home.[/QUOTE]What is an STI screen?
[QUOTE=JJanni;2692750]So, I've completed the first part. Pretty confusing.
I'm fairly sure I need to book a night in a quarantine hotel, but before I got past the first page indicating my dates of travel, I had no idea of this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JJanni;2692750]I don't know why I do this shit to myself. I was the mongering test pilot for the Phuket sandbox scheme. It would now appear I'm going to end up doing the same for the new PI entry system. Will report back when I start step 1 in 12 hours time.[/QUOTE]There is a section in the registration process that asks what Quarantine hotel you have chosen (lengthy drop-down box with many hotels listed). As we are no longer required to quarantine, how does one answer that question.
For the gents who have come in since February's opening, how did you answer that question?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2693004]There is a section in the registration process that asks what Quarantine hotel you have chosen (lengthy drop-down box with many hotels listed). As we are no longer required to quarantine, how does one answer that question.
For the gents who have come in since February's opening, how did you answer that question?[/QUOTE]Much better explained.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2693004]There is a section in the registration process that asks what Quarantine hotel you have chosen (lengthy drop-down box with many hotels listed). As we are no longer required to quarantine, how does one answer that question.
For the gents who have come in since February's opening, how did you answer that question?[/QUOTE]I am curious, and the form doesn't allow submissions before 24 hours (by day). Not sure how that works if the flight is around 00:01.
The form allows submission within 24 hours of your day of arrival Philippines time.
Not that it's doing me any good.
I have the first and second part done, but both parts remain at awaiting validation. Ie, a human hasn't looked at either part.
I'm on my way to Heathrow shortly. If I can't check in, its8 Thailand for me.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2693004]There is a section in the registration process that asks what Quarantine hotel you have chosen (lengthy drop-down box with many hotels listed). As we are no longer required to quarantine, how does one answer that question.
For the gents who have come in since February's opening, how did you answer that question?[/QUOTE]No such dropdown when I did mine two weeks ago. There was another dropdown, though, where you should select a PH laboratory if additional testing was going to be needed. I just selected "Philippine Airport Testing Laboratory" and later I saw their sign close to T4 (Domestic) while riding the shuttle T1 - T3, so I'd guess that's an OK choice, should the s-t hit the fan.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2693162]No such dropdown when I did mine two weeks ago. There was another dropdown, though, where you should select a PH laboratory if additional testing was going to be needed. I just selected "Philippine Airport Testing Laboratoy" and later saw their sign close to T4 (Domestic) whilst riding the shuttle T1 - T3, so I'd guess that's an OK choice, should the s-t hit the fan.[/QUOTE]But is that a mandatory process now to enter Phil?
Where did you found the link for this? Airway give it to you or visa process? Phil embassy?
[URL]https://youtu.be/6QKl5fNqPMQ[/URL]
Found an up to date guide. I'm at the point of having a barcode, but no QR code. Which the video assures me will allow me to fly, but not use the express lane at Manila and have to go through a manual verification there.
If nobody is actually going to check and verify my uploaded documents before I fly (I could have uploaded a picture of my dick for all they know at this point), what's the point of the whole thing other than some express lane of dubious benefit?
Be attempting to check in in about four hours for the first leg of my journey. I suspect the airlines won't just be accepting the barcode as the video guide claims. I imagine they will be wanting to check everything I have in place.
But when I look to the rules published here in France for entering to Philippines I only find these rules, no special application is mentioned. Surely I miss something here.
As of April 1, 2022, fully vaccinated foreign nationals are allowed to enter the Philippines for tourism or business travel under the following conditions:
Present a negative RT-PCR test result within 48 hours or an antigenic test within 24 hours prior to departure;.
Be in possession of an International Vaccination Certificate (ICV) issued by the WHO, a Philippine Vaccination Certificate (VaxCertPH), or an electronic vaccination certificate recognized by the Philippine authorities (the French national vaccination certificate is recognized by the Philippine authorities since December 29, 2021);.
Hold a passport valid for at least six months at the time of arrival;.
Have a return ticket to your country of origin or your next country of destination within 30 days of your arrival in the Philippines;.
Have travel insurance covering Covid-19 (minimum coverage of USD 35,000);.
Perform self-monitoring of symptoms until the 7th day after arrival. If symptoms appear during this period, the traveler is obliged to report to the local authorities (Barangay);.
Minors under 12 years of age are exempt from the vaccination requirement, and are subject to the same measures as their parent or guardian.
The following arrival measures apply to 9 (a) (Temporary Visitor's Visa) holders:
Present a negative RT-PCR test result performed less than 48 hours prior to departure;.
Have an International Vaccination Certificate (ICV) issued by the WHO, a Philippine Certificate of Vaccination (VaxCertPH), or an electronic vaccination certificate recognized by the Philippine authorities (the French national vaccination certificate is recognized by the Philippine authorities since December 29,2021);.
Perform self-monitoring of symptoms until the 7th day of their arrival. If symptoms appear during this period, the traveler is obliged to report to the local authorities (Barangay);.
Partially or unvaccinated travelers will be subject to quarantine in a facility or hotel approved by the Philippine authorities until the results of an RT-PCR test conducted on the fifth day, followed by quarantine at home until the 14th day after arrival (a reservation of accommodation for at least six days at a quarantine center or hotel approved by the authorities will be required);.
Non-vaccinated minors are subject to the same measures as their parent or guardian.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2693166]But is that a mandatory process now to enter Phil?
Where did you found the link for this? Airway give it to you or visa process? Phil embassy?[/QUOTE]One Health Pass registration was (and is, with the changes discussed here) mandatory, yes.
The dropdown appeared within the online registration form. If your country is on the visa waiver list (many are) you do not need to involve the Phil Embassy in anything.
Just make sure you have all the requirements covered (and update your OHP as per current rules).
OHP official site: [url]www.onehealthpass.com.ph[/url]
There is a short, 1 minute tutorial video on the One Health Pass website that explains the OHP registration process as of May 3rd, 2022.
Here is the link: [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph/e-HDC/OHP/Registration/[/URL].
G1.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2693230]One Health Pass registration was (and is, with the changes discussed here) mandatory, yes.
The dropdown appeared within the online registration form. If your country is on the visa waiver list (many are) you do not need to involve the Phil Embassy in anything.
Just make sure you have all the requirements covered (and update your OHP as per current rules).
OHP official site: [url]www.onehealthpass.com.ph[/url][/QUOTE]I just had to have a 40 minute discussion with five check in agents of varying seniority over the new system.
And the only reason I'm in and waiting for the first leg of my flight is a screenshot I took on the train of a Bureau of Quarantine letter that appeared in the YouTube video I linked to earlier in the thread.
Give it a few days!
[QUOTE=JJanni;2693253]I just had to have a 40 minute discussion with five check in agents of varying seniority over the new system.
And the only reason I'm in and waiting for the first leg of my flight is a screenshot I took on the train of a Bureau of Quarantine letter that appeared in the YouTube video I linked to earlier in the thread.
Give it a few days![/QUOTE]JJ: Its a 14-minute video (and should be watched by newcomers). Can you narrow what you are talking about (the BOQ letter), by giving us the time in the video (ie, 6:20) where the screenshot would be? Or when you have time, upload your screenshot here?
[URL]https://youtu.be/6QKl5fNqPMQ[/URL]
In other news, in an attempt to get info about incoming requirements, I wrote directly to the departments (BI, BOQ, and DOH) in email asking questions. Each replied, telling me to contact one of the others regarding this or that issue. When I did contact the correct department (as instructed, ie, BOQ), there was no reply to my question. I have been emailing once each 4-5 days for almost a month.
The latest updates to entry policy. I went to the horse's mouth, the BOQ website, and looked at "Travel Requirements to the Philippines":
[URL]https://quarantine.doh.gov.ph/travel-requirements-to-the-philippines/[/URL]
Unfortunately, its dated April 12 (3 weeks ago), and not up-to-date for their own new policy (May 4). See pic.
OHP site is now allowing 48 hours before arrival date.
As I will get a RAT in the day before I think I will still wait until I can complete the OHP in one submission.
It doesn't show if I can edit the submission to add the later RAT result.
[URL]https://youtu.be/6QKl5fNqPMQ[/URL]
These videos are from a Filipina named Jennifer Terri. She's great. She takes a direct shot at the BOQ for the recent kerfufle. The basic issue is this: The new OHP registration must be done within 24 hours of your arrival (not departure). That is not possible for passengers coming from the US (their flights might depart well before the 24-hour window starts). Error message from the OHP registration site, if trying to register before the prior 24-hour window before arrival:
"Thank you for indicating the date of your arrival. However, registration is only allowed within 24 hours prior your [B]departure.[/B] Please come back and register within 24 hours before your actual [B]arrival[/B] in Philippines".
Some strong word quotes from Jennifer below, and screen caps from the video:
"This video is not just addressed to travelers, to guide them, [B]but also to government agencies responsible for this One Health Pass. You have some work to do, because of right now its complicated, its a mess". [/B] Ouch.
[B]"Obviously whoever made this updates are not travelers. You're not thinking, you're not in the shoes of the travelers. You did not consider travelers coming from the US and Europe". [/B] Ouch.
Yes, thanks for details, sounds crazy.
I just copy here her conclusion, the most important being the confusion between departure and arrival in the wording but the real check is made on arrival. So access allowed only 24 h before arrival.
Good luck for long range travelers.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2693349][URL]https://youtu.be/6QKl5fNqPMQ[/URL]
These videos are from a Filipina named Jennifer Terri. She's great. She takes a direct shot at the BOQ for the recent kerfufle. The basic issue is this: The new OHP registration must be done within 24 hours of your arrival (not departure). That is not possible for passengers coming from the US (their flights might depart well before the 24-hour window starts). Error message from the OHP registration site, if trying to register before the prior 24-hour window before arrival:
"Thank you for indicating the date of your arrival. However, registration is only allowed within 24 hours prior your [B]departure.[/B] Please come back and register within 24 hours before your actual [B]arrival[/B] in Philippines".
Some strong word quotes from Jennifer below, and screen caps from the video:
"This video is not just addressed to travelers, to guide them, [B]but also to government agencies responsible for this One Health Pass. You have some work to do, because of right now its complicated, its a mess". [/B] Ouch.
[B]"Obviously whoever made this updates are not travelers. You're not thinking, you're not in the shoes of the travelers. You did not consider travelers coming from the US and Europe". [/B] Ouch.[/QUOTE]After managing offshore team for close to two years I can relate this. Unnecessary beauracratic inclusions. Hate those forms and the pre-departure tests.
So, I'm in Cebu. Jetlagged to fuck. Have no idea how much sleep I've had since setting off Wednesday Am UK time.
Have a little treat I lined up down here on her way to my hotel currently. So far phils is living up to my fantasies.
Will reply to pms etc when I finally manage to get some sleep.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2693354]Yes, thanks for details, sounds crazy.
I just copy here her conclusion, the most important being the confusion between departure and arrival in the wording but the real check is made on arrival. So access allowed only 24 h before arrival.
Good luck for long range travelers.[/QUOTE]The system doesn't seem to account for multi leg trips.
The old system generated a barcode when you initially applied, a qr code when you were clear to fly. The new system generates a barcode when you're clear to fly, a qr code when you're clear for the express lane.
Que the confusion when I had to argue at check in on the London Heathrow to muscat leg of my trip. Barcode, no qr code. And they haven't been told of the new system. Literally the boq letter (will try to attach, if I don't have to resize it) I screenshotted was the only thing to swing it.
The qr code for the express Lane was generated precisely on time. Four hours before the muscat manila leg of my journey.
I can seem to find any info on what happens if you test positive for Covid for your flight back to the USA Do you have to quarantine? For how long? And how bad are the quarantine facilities. Not to be negative, but would like to know what happens if this should occur.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2693933]The system doesn't seem to account for multi leg trips.
The old system generated a barcode when you initially applied, a qr code when you were clear to fly. The new system generates a barcode when you're clear to fly, a qr code when you're clear for the express lane.
Que the confusion when I had to argue at check in on the London Heathrow to muscat leg of my trip. Barcode, no qr code. And they haven't been told of the new system. Literally the boq letter (will try to attach, if I don't have to resize it) I screenshotted was the only thing to swing it.
The qr code for the express Lane was generated precisely on time. Four hours before the muscat manila leg of my journey.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the updates.
I would like to add my experience on this particular matter.
1) The registration opens 48 hours now. Not sure when they changed from 24 hours.
2) Upon registration with covid test results and Vaccination certificate (I have used the Australian medicare express app to generate an international certificate), received an e-mail with a barcode almost instantly.
3) I will attempt to complete the health declaration online around 24 hours mark. I am sure my departure time is considered from mel than Syd as it is a single itinerary ticket.
Will keep posted here about the airport experiences and some FRs.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2696109]Thank you for the updates.
I would like to add my experience on this particular matter.
1) The registration opens 48 hours now. Not sure when they changed from 24 hours.
2) Upon registration with covid test results and Vaccination certificate (I have used the Australian medicare express app to generate an international certificate), received an e-mail with a barcode almost instantly.
3) I will attempt to complete the health declaration online around 24 hours mark. I am sure my departure time is considered from mel than Syd as it is a single itinerary ticket.
Will keep posted here about the airport experiences and some FRs.[/QUOTE]Just an update. Within 24 hours window(prior to departure) I completed stage 2 and received the QR code. Actually, I felt this is easier than initially worried. If this reduces the workload and delays in the airport, I appreciate their work. Well done.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2696166]Just an update. Within 24 hours window(prior to departure) I completed stage 2 and received the QR code. Actually, I felt this is easier than initially worried. If this reduces the workload and delays in the airport, I appreciate their work. Well done.[/QUOTE]Good reporting.
How was the issue of the Quarantine hotel handled, both in OHP website and at the outbound airport? A day or so prior to flight, airlines are sending this requirement (see pic). In one of Jennifer Terri's previous BOQ videos, when she was walking thru the OHP website, she said something like: "Don't worry about this (Q hotel) anymore. Just drop down the list and choose one (hotel), it doesn't matter". Now the airline is wanting proof of a Q hotel reservation.
[QUOTE=BiggusDickus9;2695792]I can seem to find any info on what happens if you test positive for Covid for your flight back to the USA Do you have to quarantine? For how long? And how bad are the quarantine facilities. Not to be negative, but would like to know what happens if this should occur.[/QUOTE]You won't be allowed on the flight, for sure.
[QUOTE=BiggusDickus9;2695792]I can seem to find any info on what happens if you test positive for Covid for your flight back to the USA Do you have to quarantine? For how long? And how bad are the quarantine facilities. Not to be negative, but would like to know what happens if this should occur.[/QUOTE]Spitballing here, nothing more. If you test positive in Phils (at any time, not just when departing Phils), couple of possibilities:
1) They send you back to your condo to self-isolate, and test every few days, releasing you to return home when you've tested negative (or twice; or more times if your pinay is not happy with you).
2) They let you choose a Quarantine hotel (see pic), and you isolate there until testing negative.
[URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph/quarantinehotels/[/URL]
While that pic shows 3 hotels, there are more than 500 in that list if you scroll down.
3) They choose said Quarantine hotel for you.
4) They put you into one of their facilities until you test negative. These facilities are where they put their own folk who can't afford a hospital isolation. There is one on San Andreas St in Malate. You don't want to end up there.
Can't think of any other possibilities.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2696419]Spitballing here, nothing more. If you test positive in Phils (at any time, not just when departing Phils), couple of possibilities:
1) They send you back to your condo to self-isolate, and test every few days, releasing you to return home when you've tested negative (or twice; or more times if your pinay is not happy with you).
2) They let you choose a Quarantine hotel (see pic), and you isolate there until testing negative.
[URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph/quarantinehotels/[/URL]
While that pic shows 3 hotels, there are more than 500 in that list if you scroll down.
3) They choose said Quarantine hotel for you.
4) They put you into one of their facilities until you test negative. These facilities are where they put their own folk who can't afford a hospital isolation. There is one on San Andreas St in Malate. You don't want to end up there.
Can't think of any other possibilities.[/QUOTE]Westie.
I'm shocked you don't like option 4. Think of all those little filiipina asses you could tap in isolation with all of them.
GG.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2696298]Now the airline is wanting proof of a Q hotel reservation.[/QUOTE]To keep matters confusing, airlines want proof that you have a quarantine hotel reserved. Yet the Phils BOQ's OHP webiste still pops up with this (see pic), stating that if you are vaccinated and have a negative PCR, you don't need to quarantine.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2696313]You won't be allowed on the flight, for sure.[/QUOTE]Does the testing site tell anyone if you are positive?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2696501]Does the testing site tell anyone if you are positive?[/QUOTE]Just guessing that they are not allowed to do so, unless they are being paid by an employer or government agency specifically for said results (the same way companies or governments test employees for drugs -- an example would be airline employees). Persons testing covid-positive will simply have nothing to show in order to board their flight.
As a data point for the Philippines entry it was so easy and fast. Here are my tips.
Retain your boarding pass for arrival checking.
A) Do not start the OHP registration until you have scanned / PDF copies of both your vax cert and your PCR / RAT. As I was getting a RAT 16 hours before my first departure, that means I didn't start my actual OHP until 15 hours before.
B) You will need to know who you are, where you live, your birthdate and other pieces of info (like your flight) which some people have found challenging. Most won't.
C) You will need to know where you are going on your first day after arriving in Ph.
After completing those details I received the barcode which also now states it is acceptable for boarding the flight.
D) I was then able to answer the supplementary health questions which were straightforward.
When I check the next day and before board I had the QR code also.
In preparation for approaching the airline check-in I already know they will ask for four things. I had them printed and in my hand in this order.
A) OHP barcode or QR code. (I had the barcode printed).
B) Travel insurance.
C) Vax cert.
D) RAT result.
Check was completed easily.
On arrival in NAIA there was a signage directing people with barcodes down left alley, QR Codes to the right.
A) At the first desk I had to present QR code and boarding pass.
B) On to Immigration, standard questions.
C) On to baggage collection.
From aircraft door opening to taxi door was < 25 minutes.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2696419]
Can't think of any other possibilities.[/QUOTE]5/ pay someone 500 p to reset the test for you then get on the plane.
Don't tell me people think that never happens. 😱
Yes I've been in Asia far too long. 😁
Enjoy your flight. G.
Hello,
I am fully vaccinated and from Europe. I was not aware that we can stay only 30 days in the Philippines at the moment and they don't process Visa anymore. Unfortunately, I took an airplane ticket of 1 month and a half. I have just read this "Nationals from the following countries are allowed to enter the Philippines without a visa for a period stay of thirty (30) days or less provided they have valid roundtrip tickets or ticket for another country and passport valid for at least six (6) months from the date of departure in the Philippines."
I phone the Philippines embassy and they told me that the airways that I will take to go to Philippines may not accept me because I will come back after more than 1 month. I thought I could extend my stay when I will be in manila? I can t cancel my ticket or change the date cause it is too expensive.
What can I do? Go out of the Philippines before 1 month and come back?
Thanks for your advice.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2696684]Hello,
I am fully vaccinated and from Europe. I was not aware that we can stay only 30 days in the Philippines at the moment and they don't process Visa anymore. Unfortunately, I took an airplane ticket of 1 month and a half. I have just read this "Nationals from the following countries are allowed to enter the Philippines without a visa for a period stay of thirty (30) days or less provided they have valid roundtrip tickets or ticket for another country and passport valid for at least six (6) months from the date of departure in the Philippines."
I phone the Philippines embassy and they told me that the airways that I will take to go to Philippines may not accept me because I will come back after more than 1 month. I thought I could extend my stay when I will be in manila? I can t cancel my ticket or change the date cause it is too expensive.
What can I do? Go out of the Philippines before 1 month and come back?
Thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]If you go back some pages you would learn how to purchase a cheap or refundable exit ticket for within the 30 days to show on arrival.
After arrival and before the 30 days expire you would go and get an extension on your visa.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2696684]What can I do? Go out of the Philippines before 1 month and come back?.[/QUOTE]Shouldn't be a problem as I've done this very same thing a couple of times before. As long as you have a return ticket, that's all that matters to the airline agent. Of course you will need to show proof before you step onto the plane in your home country.
You are probably eligible for a VISA extension upon arrival. Just make sure to notify the lead officer BEFORE you get to the booths. Look for the office / desk to the left and that's where you will pay for the extension. If any questions are raised, tell them you will be taking a side trip but it should be no problem. As long as they get their money (upwards of 2500 php). All this will save you a trip to a BI office.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2696586]As a data point for the Philippines entry it was so easy and fast. Here are my tips.
Retain your boarding pass for arrival checking.
A) Do not start the OHP registration until you have scanned / PDF copies of both your vax cert and your PCR / RAT. As I was getting a RAT 16 hours before my first departure, that means I didn't start my actual OHP until 15 hours before.
B) You will need to know who you are, where you live, your birthdate and other pieces of info (like your flight) which some people have found challenging. Most won't.
C) You will need to know where you are going on your first day after arriving in Ph.
After completing those details I received the barcode which also now states it is acceptable for boarding the flight.
D) I was then able to answer the supplementary health questions which were straightforward.
When I check the next day and before board I had the QR code also..[/QUOTE]I'm flying into NAIA next week from San Francisco, CA. I have one question that I can't find seem to find an answer to on this forum: When you are uploading your proof of vax document on OHP, do they accept a (. Jpg) picture of your vax card (mine is a white 3 x5 inch card with a "CDC" logo in the upper right hand corner) or do they need something more official looking? Any feedback is appreciated.
G1.
Once again, huge thanks for the advice, guidance and past posts provided here by those who have gone before. I have my non-stop flight dates booked (business class, thank you), my hotels booked and confirmed with guest-friendly policies confirmed by email and phone call. And I've sucked down enough YouTube VLOGS to never want to see another Walking Street and P Burgos vid again! I also have a good idea of navigating pre-departure paperwork: OHP, getting negative test results 8 hours before, Travel Insurance, local sim card purchase, airport to hotel, and inter-city transport, and pre-exit test facilities. Whew!
Now it's the little stuff:
1. Laundy from my hotel (if offered) or some local shop?
2 Weather in late July / early Aug hot, rainy, both?
3. Scouting out best areas for finding open bars and FL hangouts in Malate, AC and P Burgos. I think I have this figured out.
4. Setting up apps: grab, agoda, foodpanda, waze, xoom / remitly, PinayLove, Tinder, etc. Easy to do. I will wait until just before I fly.
5. Anyone have a good translator app for English / Tagalog? And a good learn Tagalog app? I know these are not critical, but I'd like to learn some basics.
6. Calculating how much US currency to use for paying hotels that offer a 20% cash discount, and for converting to pesos for sessions, bar drinks, shopping, and various crap.
It's a LOT of work to get to bang several dozen hotties. Worth it!
Anyway, thanks! I'll drop a post in the travel announcement board about a week before I fly.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2696812]
Now it's the little stuff:
1. Laundy from my hotel (if offered) or some local shop?
2 Weather in late July / early Aug hot, rainy, both?
3. Scouting out best areas for finding open bars and FL hangouts in Malate, AC and P Burgos. I think I have this figured out.
4. Setting up apps: grab, agoda, foodpanda, waze, xoom / remitly, PinayLove, Tinder, etc. Easy to do. I will wait until just before I fly.
5. Anyone have a good translator app for English / Tagalog? And a good learn Tagalog app? I know these are not critical, but I'd like to learn some basics.
6. Calculating how much US currency to use for paying hotels that offer a 20% cash discount, and for converting to pesos for sessions, bar drinks, shopping, and various crap.
It's a LOT of work to get to bang several dozen hotties. Worth it!
Anyway, thanks! I'll drop a post in the travel announcement board about a week before I fly.[/QUOTE]I won't get a AirBnB unless it has at least a clothes washer. For Hotels, I outsource to the many laundry's in any tourist area. It's cheap even if you are unlikely to make the minimum weight charge. Note that YMMV as I walk a lot, go through several changes of clothes per day and travel very light.
All of the above. Just deal with whatever you are faced with. Weather is never guaranteed.
What's open is also changing daily. Again, deal with whatever you find.
My apps from most used: WhatsApp, Grab, FilCupid / PinaLove / Tinder, Google Maps and Translate. Airlines and Agoda as required.
I always get by with English only but there is always Google Translate of needed.
Waaaay too difficult for me. Just go to an ATM, take out 10 or 20 k, rinse and repeat when funds are low. Lots of arguements here about cash Vs card. Pick what works for you. Every 1000 p is $20 so scale accordingly.
Remember a bit of planning is good but be prepared to be flexible as plans may change and opportunities arise.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2696850]I won't get a AirBnB unless it has at least a clothes washer. For Hotels, I outsource to the many laundry's in any tourist area. It's cheap even if you are unlikely to make the minimum weight charge. Note that YMMV as I walk a lot, go through several changes of clothes per day and travel very light.
Enjoy. G[/QUOTE]I like to have a carry on bag only; don't wannna get done for any bullet in the bag scam. If you change clothes several times a day, but travel very light, just how many clothes do you take? I also suffer from the problem I hate hand washing but it is sometimes important when no other options exist, as in back packing. In fact, another rule of thumb of mine is to be e sure to spend at least as much on myself as I burn on hookers. Ways made a b line to Robinsons etc to stock up while there and dump the old clothes.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2696866] If you change clothes several times a day, but travel very light, just how many clothes do you take? [/QUOTE]I can normally last about 3 or 4 days of casual clothes. Maybe a tad longer if I want to use absolutely everything I have but I generally avoid wearing long pants and shirts etc just to avoid a wash. It's pretty rare to not have anywhere that can provide a laundry service.
Yes, they accept JPG. If I recall, I believe there is a size limitation on the upload (OHP) so just crop and resize it but enough so you can zoom in later should you need it (E. G, vax proof for a restaurant). Most places don't ask but some did.
[QUOTE=Guinness1;2696779]I'm flying into NAIA next week from San Francisco, CA. I have one question that I can't find seem to find an answer to on this forum: When you are uploading your proof of vax document on OHP, do they accept a (. Jpg) picture of your vax card (mine is a white 3 x5 inch card with a "CDC" logo in the upper right hand corner) or do they need something more official looking? Any feedback is appreciated.
G1.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2696812]Now it's the little stuff:
1. Laundy from my hotel (if offered) or some local shop?
2 Weather in late July / early Aug hot, rainy, both?
3. Scouting out best areas for finding open bars and FL hangouts in Malate, AC and P Burgos. I think I have this figured out.
4. Setting up apps: grab, agoda, foodpanda, waze, xoom / remitly, PinayLove, Tinder, etc. Easy to do. I will wait until just before I fly.
5. Anyone have a good translator app for English / Tagalog? And a good learn Tagalog app? I know these are not critical, but I'd like to learn some basics..[/QUOTE]You should be able to find a laundry shop within walking distance. They charge by weight (kilo). Just be sure to ask what's the turn around time so you know when they'll be done and cost for a rush job if you need it. Some will drop off at the hotel lobby if you ask. It's one of the great things about traveling south east Asia. If I have a piece of clothes that wasn't been washed yet, I just pack it in a separate plastic bag and have it laundered upon arrival.
Avoid shopping in the malls. Anything name brand is more expensive abroad. I think it's the import tax. Take a trip to Green Hills mall in Manila (tons of bootleg stuff), Angeles in Pampanga and negotiate.
Go to the Taxi booth (middle island) and get in line. When I was there last month, it was a flat 400 php and they stopped using the meter from the airport. It was written on the paper the booth queue gave me so I knew the driver wasn't trying to scam me. Driver said it was due to gas price hikes. Avoid the solicitors offering you a taxi ride when exiting the airport (they will overcharge you).
If you are using a trike always ask / tell the cost before getting in for your destination.
I just started using SendWave to transfer money. Before I was using Transferwise. Some restaurants charge a Service Charge, so if you see that on the bill it is a built in tip.
Ask the girl if she is on her period (has blood) as many will still go out with you and leave your bed sheets / towels with some nice art work.
Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2696812]4. Setting up apps: grab, agoda, foodpanda, waze, xoom / remitly, PinayLove, Tinder, etc. Easy to do. I will wait until just before I fly.
5. Anyone have a good translator app for English / Tagalog? And a good learn Tagalog app? I know these are not critical, but I'd like to learn some basics.[/QUOTE]Grab you cannot fully register outside the country, you will need your local Ph mobile when you arrive.
For language download Nemo Tagalog. Pay the small fee to unlock the features. Proactive while you are driving around.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2696850]I won't get a AirBnB unless it has at least a clothes washer. For Hotels, I outsource to the many laundry's in any tourist area. It's cheap even if you are unlikely to make the minimum weight charge. Note that YMMV as I walk a lot, go through several changes of clothes per day and travel very light.
All of the above. Just deal with whatever you are faced with. Weather is never guaranteed.
What's open is also changing daily. Again, deal with whatever you find.
My apps from most used: WhatsApp, Grab, FilCupid / PinaLove / Tinder, Google Maps and Translate. Airlines and Agoda as required.
I always get by with English only but there is always Google Translate of needed.
Waaaay too difficult for me. Just go to an ATM, take out 10 or 20 k, rinse and repeat when funds are low. Lots of arguements here about cash Vs card. Pick what works for you. Every 1000 p is $20 so scale accordingly..[/QUOTE]I'd be careful though about which ATM you chose. Last time I was there my buddy's account got hacked after using an ATM in Angeles.
[QUOTE=WalkAboutBoyz;2697715]I'd be careful though about which ATM you chose. Last time I was there my buddy's account got hacked after using an ATM in Angeles.[/QUOTE]I only use real bank ATMs, not those pop up 3rd party units you find in clubs etc. I haven't had an issue yet.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2697498]Grab you cannot fully register outside the country, you will need your local Ph mobile when you arrive.
For language download Nemo Tagalog. Pay the small fee to unlock the features. Proactive while you are driving around.[/QUOTE]If you have a international plan like I have from T Mobile and have grab app you can use it without problem. Long time ago I always had to get a unlocked phone and buy SIM cards from countries I visit. Load up minutes etc which was annoying. Now I get dial tone in any country and unlimited data. My phone works just like home in USA. Only thing is calls cost per minute. But I do not mind. My phone bill can be deducted from taxes anyway. With grab you need not deal with taxi mafia in Philippines.
As for ATM use Bank ATM at the Mall in Angeles just outside the bank. It is safe. When in Manila use China bank ATM. They can be found in the malls as well.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2697859]If you have a international plan like I have from T Mobile and have grab app you can use it without problem. Long time ago I always had to get a unlocked phone and buy SIM cards from countries I visit. Load up minutes etc which was annoying. Now I get dial tone in any country and unlimited data. My phone works just like home in USA. Only thing is calls cost per minute. But I do not mind. My phone bill can be deducted from taxes anyway. With grab you need not deal with taxi mafia in Philippines.
As for ATM use Bank ATM at the Mall in Angeles just outside the bank. It is safe. When in Manila use China bank ATM. They can be found in the malls as well.[/QUOTE]The unlimited roaming deals from our Australian providers is $5-$10/ day. Meaning my 14 day visit for data will be $140. Or I use a local Globe Sim card for 2 x Go90 7 day promotions cost me P180 = $5 total. With the $135 difference I can put that P5,000 to a great overnighter. Plus I have a local PH number which freelancers, drivers, hotels can contact me.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2698184]The unlimited roaming deals from our Australian providers is $5-$10/ day. Meaning my 14 day visit for data will be $140. Or I use a local Globe Sim card for 2 x Go90 7 day promotions cost me P180 = $5 total. With the $135 difference I can put that P5,000 to a great overnighter. Plus I have a local PH number which freelancers, drivers, hotels can contact me.[/QUOTE]Does putting a local SIM card into your regular phone change your phone number?
My situation:
I have an unlocked Verizon iPhone 13 pro. Verizon told me I can buy a SIM at the MNL airport and use it with my phone. Any local calls are charged to the account associated with the SIM. And calls made to / from the US (my home) will be handled / charged to my US Verizon account.
Somehow that seems too easy.
I wondered why nobody here is talking about the recent elections.
Marcos jr. Will be the new President and he is a lapdog of Mr. Xi.
Times will change for us.
We should enjoy the phills now. It will change soon.
[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2312026/philippines-marcos-wants-china-ties-to-shift-to-higher-gear[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2698231]Does putting a local SIM card into your regular phone change your phone number?
My situation:
I have an unlocked Verizon iPhone 13 pro. Verizon told me I can buy a SIM at the MNL airport and use it with my phone. Any local calls are charged to the account associated with the SIM. And calls made to / from the US (my home) will be handled / charged to my US Verizon account.
Somehow that seems too easy.[/QUOTE]The iPhone 13 has dual sim capability. It is like two phones in one. You will keep your Verizon number and get a new number for your new sim card. Yes, it is that easy. I have used dual sim card phones for years. The phone will not have two physical sim cards. One will be an e-sim card. You need to know if your Verizon account is on a physical sim card or an e-sim. That information will be valuable when getting your Manilia sim card. Lots of information out there on dual sim card information. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2698444]The iPhone 13 has dual sim capability. It is like two phones in one. You will keep your Verizon number and get a new number for your new sim card. Yes, it is that easy. I have used dual sim card phones for years. The phone will not have two physical sim cards. One will be an e-sim card. You need to know if your Verizon account is on a physical sim card or an e-sim. That information will be valuable when getting your Manilia sim card. Lots of information out there on dual sim card information. Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Many phones have real dual sim, mine, OnePlus, have two sim slots, so I can keep my national sim and add a local one.
But generally I prefer to remove the national one and keep only the locally brought one mainly to avoid any mistakes.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2698231]Does putting a local SIM card into your regular phone change your phone number?
Somehow that seems too easy.[/QUOTE]In my personal situation.
I put my Au phone to a separate phone which stays in my room.
I put the local sim into my main phone. I use the data for my usual apps like Whatsapp, which retain my Au number.
Are you using an e Sim with Verizon? Check the menu, you should be able to software disable a SIM if using multiple SIMS. You can always test in the US with a cheap prepaid Sim or borrow a SIM from a willing friend.
Always check the SIM status if roaming, especially if you have multiple SIMS. I had cases in the past where my SIM selection would change randomly. Had a couple cases where I got charged for receiving SMS at exhorbitant rates in Europe.
As for calls and data, you need to set in your menu. Verizon might allow you to disable international roaming or calls but I don't recommend it.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2698231]Does putting a local SIM card into your regular phone change your phone number?
My situation:
I have an unlocked Verizon iPhone 13 pro. Verizon told me I can buy a SIM at the MNL airport and use it with my phone. Any local calls are charged to the account associated with the SIM. And calls made to / from the US (my home) will be handled / charged to my US Verizon account.
Somehow that seems too easy.[/QUOTE]
I actually have / had multiple phones / numbers and would forward calls to my local phone / SIM. Better to leave your primary phone in the safe, especially if it is expensive one.
I am not sure if the good old days of easy travel will return. In the current climate, one of the reasons you could be nabbed or movement restricted is Covid. If you are far from your hotel and cannot get back if a lockdown / quarantine happens, it is better to have your good phone and SIMs with you. So far doesn't happen in Philippines.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2698585]In my personal situation.
I put my Au phone to a separate phone which stays in my room.
I put the local sim into my main phone. I use the data for my usual apps like Whatsapp, which retain my Au number.[/QUOTE]
Let's brace and see how this impacts PH.
For those needing a swab test on the way out of Manila going back home:
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/rtpcrswabph/[/URL]
Gentlemen: I'm not an avid poster here but appreciate all of the great reports! I'm trying to confirm some information my lady friend just sent me in Manila. I just received it Friday, May 27th here in the USA. Late afternoon! She said GMA. A Philippine TV station mentioned EFFECTIVE June 1st. NO MORE COVID TEST REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER THE PHILIPPINES.. IF.. IF.. YOU HAVE YOUR BOOSTER SHOTS! Can someone confirm this? This isn't a joke. I just want to confirm any changes as I'm arriving in early June. I did just check. Website and no info there yet! I hope this is true and I hope this is helpful to others!
[QUOTE=BarneyRubber;2701793]Gentlemen: I'm not an avid poster here but appreciate all of the great reports! I'm trying to confirm some information my lady friend just sent me in Manila. I just received it Friday, May 27th here in the USA. Late afternoon! She said GMA. A Philippine TV station mentioned EFFECTIVE June 1st. NO MORE COVID TEST REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER THE PHILIPPINES.. IF.. IF.. YOU HAVE YOUR BOOSTER SHOTS! Can someone confirm this? This isn't a joke. I just want to confirm any changes as I'm arriving in early June. I did just check. Website and no info there yet! I hope this is true and I hope this is helpful to others![/QUOTE]Circulating in numerous news sources. Or check this official site: [URL]https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1175295[/URL].
Good news.
[QUOTE=BarneyRubber;2701793]Gentlemen: I'm not an avid poster here but appreciate all of the great reports! I'm trying to confirm some information my lady friend just sent me in Manila. I just received it Friday, May 27th here in the USA. Late afternoon! She said GMA. A Philippine TV station mentioned EFFECTIVE June 1st. NO MORE COVID TEST REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER THE PHILIPPINES.. IF.. IF.. YOU HAVE YOUR BOOSTER SHOTS! Can someone confirm this? This isn't a joke. I just want to confirm any changes as I'm arriving in early June. I did just check. Website and no info there yet! I hope this is true and I hope this is helpful to others![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2022/5/27/no-more-Covid-test-rule-fully-vaxxed-boosted.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=TripleX;2701819][URL]https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2022/5/27/no-more-Covid-test-rule-fully-vaxxed-boosted.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Good news. And lifting the travel insurance requirement. From the article:
[B]"Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, May 27) Inbound travelers no longer need to present a negative COVID-19 test result upon entry provided they are vaccinated and with a booster shot, according to new rules released by the Interagency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases.
The rule, which takes effect on May 30, covers people 18 years old and above, while minors 12 to 17 years old should have the primary vaccine series. Children below 12 are exempted provided they are with fully vaccinated and boosted parents/guardians.
The government also lifted the travel insurance requirement.
The Tourism department welcomed the move."[/B]
In addition, the Intramuros BI office (and all the others) have been on a reduced-capacity basis since the pandemic started. It has operated at greatly-reduced operational personnel, and went to appointment-only for all needs (visa extensions, OFW, and so on). Walk-ins were eliminated regardless of need. Normally the appointment schedule is full (red boxes on the calendar) or nearly full for 4 weeks ahead. Its easier to get one of those agencies to process your extension (the agents can walk in at any time, and have their own set of windows which are under-utilized) than get an appointment. When you use the online appointment calendar it looks like the picture, with red slots out for a month, often times showing FULL. But recently it changed, with lots of open (blue) slots. Also, the slots stop on the last day of this month, and don't continue into next month. That *might* be an indication that they are going to allow walk-ins again next month.
Also the worm turns quickly in Phils. When I first screen-captured that picture, each blue box for May 30 and 31, showed exactly 100 open slots. A few minutes later when I refreshed the page, they had changed to the number of slots you see here (183 to 196 slots).
+ 2 extra credit points to the BI for stopping the appointment-only system (if its happening).
-2 points for not announcing it in advance (if its happening).
To get an appointment: [URL]https://e-services.immigration.gov.ph/[/URL].
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2701895]Good news. And lifting the travel insurance requirement. From the article:
[B]"Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, May 27) Inbound travelers no longer need to present a negative COVID-19 test result upon entry provided they are vaccinated and with a booster shot, according to new rules released by the Interagency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases.
The government also lifted the travel insurance requirement.
[/B]
[/QUOTE]Good news.
But there is something I cannot find, its about what they call a full vaccination schema or this booster shot.
Is there any delay for this booster shot? One month old, two month, six month?
Example for me, I had 3 Pfizer in 2021, the last one which could be the booster one I guess, was in Dec 2021. So is that ok or should I take a fourth one and how long before the travel?
Can we arrive with a last injection six month old?
Unclear for me up to now.
This is June 2022 almost and people are still inquiring about boosters.
Covid is dead in the water as they just stated in Davos. The window is shutting down fast. Too fast.
But monkey pox will save the year. PCR tests have been ordered from China. Pfizer and Moderna are about to release their stuff. Everything is ready to go.
Now, for those who got jabs three times last year and will get monkey pox shots, the borders are all yours! For a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2701985]Good news.
But there is something I cannot find, its about what they call a full vaccination schema or this booster shot.
Is there any delay for this booster shot? One month old, two month, six month?
Example for me, I had 3 Pfizer in 2021, the last one which could be the booster one I guess, was in Dec 2021. So is that ok or should I take a fourth one and how long before the travel?
Can we arrive with a last injection six month old?
Unclear for me up to now.[/QUOTE]
You sound good to go, Albert! I'the get the 2nd booster if you have time but I think the requirement is only one booster!
To everyone else. I appreciate the responses from my first post regarding this matter! We can now all cancel travel insurance as well.. Just bought that a couple days ago. damn!
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2701985]Good news.
But there is something I cannot find, its about what they call a full vaccination schema or this booster shot.
Is there any delay for this booster shot? One month old, two month, six month?
Example for me, I had 3 Pfizer in 2021, the last one which could be the booster one I guess, was in Dec 2021. So is that ok or should I take a fourth one and how long before the travel?
Can we arrive with a last injection six month old?
Unclear for me up to now.[/QUOTE]
What about the one health pass? Are we still required to do that be / S does anyone know? It was required when I went there in March. I am planning on another trip in July.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2702337]What about the one health pass? Are we still required to do that be / S does anyone know? It was required when I went there in March. I am planning on another trip in July.[/QUOTE]Until we hear otherwise, its probably still on. Please follow Jennifer Terri's updates on youtube.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2702374]Until we hear otherwise, its probably still on. Please follow Jennifer Terri's updates on youtube.[/QUOTE]I looked up the Philippine Airlines website. The Pass is still required and they had already updated the removal of the PCR test.
Annoying as I could have arrived a day earlier if I had known. As for insurance I could cancel but it was not expensive so will keep it. I dint see anything about insurance on the P A website.
[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2702337]What about the one health pass? Are we still required to do that be / S does anyone know? It was required when I went there in March. I am planning on another trip in July.[/QUOTE]Comrade: The advice to check Phillipines Airlines was a good start, but only a start. Check other airlines as well, especially those using the join sherpa system. That will tell you eg fly NYNY-Manila, change Narita, USA passport, (not) fully vaccinated: then these are the conditions.
Eg: there is a new change tomorrow, 30th, where proof of a negative pre departure Covid result is needed for vaccinated. If you want to be a dumpsky, relying on some youtube loser, go ahead.
You would be best checking several reputable airlines as they all outsource that stuff to firms like join sherpa.
My trip is scheduled for mid-July and I'm so ready!
A question about getting around within Manila and AC safely and reasonably priced: I am 6'1" tall and I'm a big guy. Over 300 lbs. From the dozens of YT Vlogs I've seen I'm fairly sure I will never fit in a trike. And with bad knees, I'm not really able to walk more than a few hundred yards at any one time. I know trikes are probably fairly safe and certainly cheap for short distances, say from Walking Street to my hotel or to Perimeter Rd. But it looks like I probably can't use them? Am I correct?
So that means my next best options seem to be:
Grab. I have the app, of course. I know its a bit more expensive than a trike, but I can handle 7-10 trips per day if they cost $5-6.
- Saw some recent posts that wait time for a Grab is getting longer. Over 20 minutes?
- Probably best for taking a girl back to my hotel?
- Probably best for getting to other local regions like Ermita to P. Burgos, Malate to Greenbelt?
Taxis. Seems like a bad option: more expensive, taxi mafias, scam drivers who "forget" to use the meter.
For longer rides. Jeepnys? Not sure they are safe from pickpockets, don't really know the routes, and not door to door, but very inexpensive.
Are there other options? Are my assumptions above accurate?
Thanks for any advice.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2702893] I am 6'1" tall and I'm a big guy. Over 300 lbs. From the dozens of YT Vlogs I've seen I'm fairly sure I will never fit in a trike. And with bad knees, I'm not really able to walk more than a few hundred yards at any one time.[/QUOTE]If you stay on Burgos or Walking Street, you could cover all the major bars in a few hundred yards walk, esp if you stop for drink stops on the way. If you do find your self unable to continue, the bar or girl will happily find you transport. All you need to do is ask.
For travelling further away, I've never had issues with Grab not taxis but I will admit that was pre pandemic.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. You don't want to stay in your room the whole trip but it's very easy to have girls come to you if you aren't feeling well.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2703048]If you stay on Burgos or Walking Street, you could cover all the major bars in a few hundred yards walk, esp if you stop for drink stops on the way. If you do find your self unable to continue, the bar or girl will happily find you transport. All you need to do is ask.
For travelling further away, I've never had issues with Grab not taxis but I will admit that was pre pandemic.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. You don't want to stay in your room the whole trip but it's very easy to have girls come to you if you aren't feeling well.[/QUOTE]Just to add to these excellent points, Grab at present is a disaster, they've have done PR releases to apologise for demand exceeding supply. If you're travelling peak hours you simply may not be able to book at all. Been getting taxis myself or walking. Majority of taxis will ask where you are going before letting you in. Most have been on meter but some have asked for extra 50 PHP on top of meter fee. In grand scheme of things, and considering it's rainy season, things could be much worse.
Honestly speaking if you have problems with your knees you'll struggle to get in tricycle. I'm same height, you have to step in and almost fall backwards, getting out is trickier. Jeepny are also likely to be a struggle as they have limited height available, unless you're able to park yourself right next to door. Just a note also, tricycles are generally banned within Makati, so you may get one around Burgos area but they wouldn't for example take you into Salcedo to one of nice restaurants there.
If one of taxi drivers is decent always option to get his number and text him in advance of your journey.
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2703057]Just to add to these excellent points, Grab at present is a disaster, they've have done PR releases to apologise for demand exceeding supply. If you're travelling peak hours you simply may not be able to book at all. Been getting taxis myself or walking. Majority of taxis will ask where you are going before letting you in. Most have been on meter but some have asked for extra 50 PHP on top of meter fee. In grand scheme of things, and considering it's rainy season, things could be much worse.
Honestly speaking if you have problems with your knees you'll struggle to get in tricycle. I'm same height, you have to step in and almost fall backwards, getting out is trickier. Jeepny are also likely to be a struggle as they have limited height available, unless you're able to park yourself right next to door. Just a note also, tricycles are generally banned within Makati, so you may get one around Burgos area but they wouldn't for example take you into Salcedo to one of nice restaurants there.
If one of taxi drivers is decent always option to get his number and text him in advance of your journey.[/QUOTE]Great advice from the guys who have been there! Love the idea of getting a Taxi drivers number. .
Are there any app for calling a Taxi in AC and / or near P. Burgos?
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2703253]Great advice from the guys who have been there! Love the idea of getting a Taxi drivers number. .
Are there any app for calling a Taxi in AC and / or near P. Burgos?[/QUOTE]Yes, the 'Grab' app (similar to Uber in the US).
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2703057] Most have been on meter but some have asked for extra 50 PHP on top of meter fee.[/QUOTE]That's a tourist scam. Don't buy into it. Before you get going in a taxi, always use your iPhone to take a picture of the driver, the car, and his license. Let him see you do this and do it with a smile. Send the pics to an email or something. That will discourage him from playing games with you. I always sit in the front seat because the view is better but you can also lighten the mood and personalize the conversation.
[QUOTE=TheRose;2703398]That's a tourist scam. Don't buy into it. Before you get going in a taxi, always use your iPhone to take a picture of the driver, the car, and his license. Let him see you do this and do it with a smile. Send the pics to an email or something. That will discourage him from playing games with you. I always sit in the front seat because the view is better but you can also lighten the mood and personalize the conversation.[/QUOTE]When I arrived last time in Cebu I had to fight with the Taxi mafia.
At The exit they All had lists which "official prices."
I said no way.
What Kind of tourist scam is that?
And believe me no one would take you with Meter. They Just leave you there.
I went to the other Terminal.
Again the same, no Meter. Only official lists quoting 700 p to my hotel!
No way.
I went up to the Street and took a taxi from the Street.
He also did not wanted to use meter, but was ok with 500 p.
Was it always that Bad in Cebu airport?
One of the most things I hate is these taxi mafia.
[QUOTE=TheRose;2703398]That's a tourist scam. Don't buy into it. Before you get going in a taxi, always use your iPhone to take a picture of the driver, the car, and his license. Let him see you do this and do it with a smile. Send the pics to an email or something. That will discourage him from playing games with you. I always sit in the front seat because the view is better but you can also lighten the mood and personalize the conversation.[/QUOTE]I live in the Philippines, you can do what you suggest, but you quickly learn living here just to go with it sometimes or forever be on verge of a heart attack from anger. "Welcome to the Philippines" as everyone says with a great deal of sarcasm.
I would personally deem a tourist scam to be not having the meter on at all or taking you wrong route. One of my friends got in a taxi on Burgos, asked to go to Greenbelt, but was so drunk he woke up in the taxi at the base of mountains beyond BGC! That's a scam!
While it's great to share advice this isn't something I'll be following. The times when an extra 50 has been requested were on public holidays or when it was raining heavily. With the situation with grabs at the moment, I'd prefer to pay 50 than not get a ride at all. If it was 500 or something then there'd be an issue worth arsing about with.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2703253]Great advice from the guys who have been there! Love the idea of getting a Taxi drivers number. .
Are there any app for calling a Taxi in AC and / or near P. Burgos?[/QUOTE]One thing that I forgot to ask was how well do you handle stairs? Many clubs on Burgos are up or down a full flight of stairs whereas Walking street are mostly at street level.
Maybe something to consider?
So after 2 years of pandemic lockdown and then a three stint back in the RP this life back in my home country is kind of boring.
What positive tips do you guys have to settle back into home life? Or am I just going to be working towards my next trip?
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2703253]Great advice from the guys who have been there! Love the idea of getting a Taxi drivers number. .
Are there any app for calling a Taxi in AC and / or near P. Burgos?[/QUOTE]In AC there are hundreds of newer Blue taxis. Of course they are painted all blue. They all use meters. Generally they are cheaper than trikes. You can flag them down on most major streets as they go by. Do not expect the hotel doormen to flag them down as the trike drivers get upset with them.
I believe there might be an app for the Blue Taxis. Or get the number of several Blue Taxi drivers.
The drivers pay a daily rental fee plus gasoline. Please treat them well. I like to see them knock out the trike mafia.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2703696]In AC there are hundreds of newer Blue taxis. Of course they are painted all blue. They all use meters. Generally they are cheaper than trikes. You can flag them down on most major streets as they go by. Do not expect the hotel doormen to flag them down as the trike drivers get upset with them.
I believe there might be an app for the Blue Taxis. Or get the number of several Blue Taxi drivers.
The drivers pay a daily rental fee plus gasoline. Please treat them well. I like to see them knock out the trike mafia.[/QUOTE]I doubt anybody can knockout trike mafia. They are as much part of life in balibago for a long time. Locals use them as well for reasonable price. But for foreigners if you do not pre negotiate they charge high prices.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2703778]I doubt anybody can knockout trike mafia. They are as much part of life in balibago for a long time. Locals use them as well for reasonable price. But for foreigners if you do not pre negotiate they charge high prices.[/QUOTE]I am thankful for the readily available walking street trikes when I barfine a sweetie and want to get to the hotel quickly.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2703778]I doubt anybody can knockout trike mafia. They are as much part of life in balibago for a long time. Locals use them as well for reasonable price. But for foreigners if you do not pre negotiate they charge high prices.[/QUOTE]
I never heard of taxi mafia, BUT I do agree about trike mafia (actually bike mafia), I seen them in the province, not sure if they belong to a gang, but they said they belong to a union, and most of the trikes are scared of them.
One time it took me a while to get a trike since most of them were charging alot and the other ones didn't want to go there because it has to go up in the mountain or maybe afraid of the bikers, so after 45 minutes of looking for a trike (there were not taxis in that city BTW) I found one with a reasonable price, so afew blocks after after we left (close to a 7 eleven) 3 motorbikes stop us and talk to the trike driver and then the driver said he can not take me anymore because only bikes are allow to go up that mountain, I got piss and yell at them, of course I did it because there were people around the 7 eleven and 20 meters away there was a plaza with guards and a police station two blocks away, so I ask them what union are you so I can ask if you are legit in the police station 2 blocks away, once they heard police station they change their tune and said, OK this time I let you go but next time you can only take motobikes from the union. I just laugh and said: Whatever!
Only in Philippines!
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2703694]So after 2 years of pandemic lockdown and then a three stint back in the RP this life back in my home country is kind of boring.
What positive tips do you guys have to settle back into home life? Or am I just going to be working towards my next trip?[/QUOTE]It depends what city you live, if is a big city, so many things to do there, depending of the city you are, there might be a Filipino community there, try to go to one of their clubs / bars and meet Filipinas there, even a Filipino business works, I like Filipinas in my city because they are easy to hook up, for some reason even thought they are in another country, they still are fond to foreigners and are easy to trust you, of course you have to have some game and don't date someone with a big age gap, you have to lie about your age of course, I'm early 40 (and I look early 30's) so I can easily hook up with someone 27 or more, they think I'm 32 so if they are 27 that's only 5 years gap, of course later on if I end up having an open relationship with them I will tell them my real age (15 years older) and they are OK with it since we already had sex and they like it.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2703691]One thing that I forgot to ask was how well do you handle stairs? Many clubs on Burgos are up or down a full flight of stairs whereas Walking street are mostly at street level.
Maybe something to consider?[/QUOTE]I can deal with stairs. Slowly. I generally need to put one foot up, then bring my next foot to the same step. Then wash, rinse, repeat. Same process for heading down. I think I'll be Ok on stairs.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2703696]In AC there are hundreds of newer Blue taxis. Of course they are painted all blue. They all use meters. Generally they are cheaper than trikes. You can flag them down on most major streets as they go by. Do not expect the hotel doormen to flag them down as the trike drivers get upset with them.
I believe there might be an app for the Blue Taxis. Or get the number of several Blue Taxi drivers.
The drivers pay a daily rental fee plus gasoline. Please treat them well. I like to see them knock out the trike mafia.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I searched my app sore and did not find an app. Yet. But I assume once see one I can save the phone number painted on the cars.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2704081]Thanks! I searched my app sore and did not find an app. Yet. But I assume once see one I can save the phone number painted on the cars.[/QUOTE]You might want to try Grab. Last time when I was in AC, I could get taxis using Grab without any problems.
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2703585]I live in the Philippines, you can do what you suggest, but you quickly learn living here just to go with it sometimes or forever be on verge of a heart attack from anger. "Welcome to the Philippines" as everyone says with a great deal of sarcasm.[/QUOTE]That's not sarcasm. That's resignation. And it taint a matter of living in the PI. I have been coming here frequently for a long time and I have learned that folks like taxi drivers will nickel and dime and scam you to death if you let them. You can hardly blame them when you consider what they do and the incredibly long hours they put in.
This board is about giving advice to get laid and save money. My advice is that it is not a question about having a heart attack but rather about having the stomach to calmly and resolutely state your case and not be shaken down.
[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2704188]You might want to try Grab. Last time when I was in AC, I could get taxis using Grab without any problems.[/QUOTE]Approximately when was that?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2704300]Approximately when was that?[/QUOTE]Before the lockdown. Haven't visited since then. Booked a flight for the end of this month.
Airbnb prices, from their map. First 4 pics are Makati. Last pic is Malate.
Pic 1 Gramercy area.
Pic 2 Burgos area.
Pic 3 Jazz Residence area (South Cemetary).
Pic 4 Greenbelt / Ayala area.
Pic 5 Robinsons / Birch Tower / Malate Bayview Mansion / Green Residence Taft area.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2704305]Airbnb prices, from their map. First 4 pics are Makati. Last pic is Malate.
Pic 1 Gramercy area.
Pic 2 Burgos area.
Pic 3 Jazz Residence area (South Cemetary).
Pic 4 Greenbelt / Ayala area.
Pic 5 Robinsons / Birch Tower / Malate Bayview Mansion / Green Residence Taft area.[/QUOTE]I can see in the Gramercy map, Knightsbridge Residences ($1,079 USD), it cost about $1 K USD like I was telling Kiev Freak.
But the $3,302!
What is that, a penthouse?
Westy you have a map for Mall of Asia area?
If I ever decide to buy a condo in Manila in the future (which I doubt it), Mall of Asia area will be my place. Lots of memories in that area.
This guy does interesting vlogs and just posted about his place in Gramercy. There's also a hot girl to look at. This is the type of place I'd look it if I retire / work abroad.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-s2zZZHzg[/URL]
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2704327]Westy you have a map for Mall of Asia area?
If I ever decide to buy a condo in Manila in the future (which I doubt it), Mall of Asia area will be my place. Lots of memories in that area.[/QUOTE]Just visit [URL]airbnb.com[/URL], and enter "Pasay" into the location box, and enter your preferred dates of your vaycay. A map will appear of the Pasay area, and the available units. You can zoom in / out, and you can move the map to any nearby area (ie, Malate or Makati). Moving the map will cause a refresh, and the units available in that new area (and their prices) will appear like magic.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2704433]This guy does interesting vlogs and just posted about his place in Gramercy. There's also a hot girl to look at. This is the type of place I'd look it if I retire / work abroad.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-s2zZZHzg[/URL][/QUOTE]I like Pam.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2704433]This guy does interesting vlogs and just posted about his place in Gramercy. There's also a hot girl to look at. This is the type of place I'd look it if I retire / work abroad.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-s2zZZHzg[/URL][/QUOTE]Pam is really nice.
But 8000 a month, where can we find such prices?
Westy and his magic maps are back. Pasay area pics, for price range comparison. Pics should be self-explanatory. From MOA, to the airport, to Roxas and Taft streets. The dates chosen can change the prices, so YMMV depending your dates.
Yes my friend, an astute observation. Pam is indeed likeable. Nice to hear from you. Let's socialize again in PH and meet some more Pams.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2704537]I like Pam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2704644]Westy and his magic maps are back. Pasay area pics, for price range comparison. Pics should be self-explanatory. From MOA, to the airport, to Roxas and Taft streets. The dates chosen can change the prices, so YMMV depending your dates.[/QUOTE]Wow! Nice one Westy, I forgot that Airbnb had that feature of a map with all the prices, similar to [URL]Booking.com[/URL].
Sea Recidences cost $793 USD, it went up abit more. I was in Shell Residences back on February, is a nice condo too closer to the bridge connected to MOA, but more expensive.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2704537]I like Pam.[/QUOTE]I can do Pam, nice smile and nice boobs, I'm a butt guy with curves, but I will still do her. Not sure if is the bikini or her body BUT she definitely needs to get a new bikini.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2704704]Wow! Nice one Westy, I forgot that Airbnb had that feature of a map with all the prices, similar to [URL]Booking.com[/URL]....[/QUOTE]It's great of Westie to provide this info but I'd encourage mongers to do their own research at the time they need accommodation. Prices for the same place can vary widely and I've got significant savings booking immediately before moving in as managers give last minute discounts.
Remember that many towers can have several rooms available with the same floor plan and some have additional features (clothes washers, kitchens etc).
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2704708]I can do Pam, nice smile and nice boobs, I'm a butt guy with curves, but I will still do her. Not sure if is the bikini or her body BUT she definitely needs to get a new bikini.[/QUOTE]In the comments of the video, the guy said he bought it for her and that's why it's too big.
When buying a bikini you should always go with the wisest statement I heard from a friend "XS fits all".
[QUOTE=Goferring;2704909]It's great of Westie to provide this info but I'd encourage mongers to do their own research at the time they need accommodation. Prices for the same place can vary widely and I've got significant savings booking immediately before moving in as managers give last minute discounts.[/QUOTE]Quite right. Prices can change quickly on airbnb. During pandemic, I have watched some units that I found of interest for a future trip, to be vacant according to airbnb, for months. Monthly price might have been in the $700-$800 range the entire time. Then without notice, the same unit for the same trip timeframe is $1300.
Attached pic is from the Gramercy / Burgos area. Low end of the price range for a month is $800, high end is $2200. YMMV.
Had success during pandemic by renting a place for a month at the airbnb rate, then re-negotiating off the airbnb books for a considerably lower rate for myself, much the same way GO did. For example, an airbnb unit was $600 for the month, all-inclusive with the utilities. That means the utilities were eating $75 (I use the aircon indiscriminately), and the airbnb's fee was about $75, thus leaving $450 for the owner. I would typically offer the owner an off-book amount of $475 ($400 + $75) in pesos (p23,750). Nobody balked. I even had one owner beat me to the punch and suggest a similar deal one week before the end of my first month there. Sniffing a negotiation, I offered about 5% less than her 15% reduction, and she took the bait.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2705039]Monthly price might have been in the $700-$800 range the entire time. Then without notice, the same unit for the same trip timeframe is $1300.
[/QUOTE]Are you saying you saw prices jump [B]up[/B]? Never seen that. Maybe your reputation preceded you. 😜.
Typically prices will remain constant (maybe a very small discount available for a long range booking first) then a significant price drop a couple of days out to secure someone, anyone rather than leave the room / condo empty. Agoda discounts can be substantial but they are on AirBnB too.
Obviously, this risks seeing your favourite room become not available before you secure it so you do need to be flexible or in an area where there are a few choices. It's only caught me out once in Cebu when I didn't know there was a major event in town over the next weekend.
Its the opposite for airfares: substantial savings for booking 12 months ahead; outrageous prices for flying tomorrow.
Enjoy. G.
Hello,
Anyone know Zamboanga city? Is it a safe city? I would like to visit it and I will go alone. I read that you have to be careful with girls because they cheat you more in this city than in the rest of the Philippines, but is this true or is it just a rumor?
From the US Embassy in Manila, meant for US citizens:
[I]U.S. Embassy Manila, Philippines
U.S. Consular Agency Cebu, Philippines
Message for U.S. Citizens: Philippine Entry and Exit Requirements
Entry to the Philippines: Although travel to the Philippines is now permitted, U.S. citizens should know and comply with arrival and departure requirements as promulgated by the Philippine government, which generally include the following as a minimum:
Being fully vaccinated, except for minor children below age 12 traveling with fully vaccinated parents who can present acceptable proof of vaccination, and;
Passport valid for at least six (6) months at the time of entry.
When making travel plans, check destination-specific travel requirements to avoid unnecessary delays.
[b]If you are fully vaccinated with at least one booster shot, you are no longer required to provide a negative RT-PCR test, provided you present proof of vaccination along with your valid passport and return tickets; see IATF Resolution 168 for more information.
If unvaccinated, you must complete a facility-based quarantine at the first port of entry regardless of onward Philippine destination. An RT-PCR test will be conducted on the fifth day, with the date of arrival being the first day. Regardless of a negative result, you will undergo home quarantine up to the 14th day. See the Bureau of Quarantine (BOQ) website for a list of quarantine facilities.
The Philippine government requires all arriving passengers to complete a BOQ e-Health Declaration Card (e-HDC). This includes children. You can register up to three days in advance of your departure for the Philippines through the BOQs One Health Pass webpage. Remember to save a copy of the transaction number and QR code, which will be required by Philippine immigration authorities.[/b]
Return to the United States from the Philippines: Your departure will be delayed if you test positive for COVID-19 before your scheduled return flight to the United States. All airline passengers to the United States ages two years and older, regardless of vaccination status or citizenship, must provide a negative COVID-19 viral test taken within one calendar day of travel. If you test positive, you will be required to undergo quarantine and take an RT-PCR test on the fifthday. Direct questions about quarantine release times to the local government unit of the port of exit as these may vary by location. A list of quarantine facilities is available on the BOQ website.
Please visit the U.S. Embassys COVID-19 and Travel Information page for information on the most current Philippine entry and exit regulations and procedures.
The links below may also be helpful when planning your travel to the Philippines:
Philippine Bureau of Immigration Advisory on Revised Travel Restrictions Guidelines and Quarantine Classifications for Arriving Foreign Nationals
Bureau of Quarantine Website on One Health Pass and e-Health Declaration Card
Travelers between the United States and the Philippines traveling on a Philippine carrier will be required to wear masks in the terminal and for the duration of their flight.[/I]
[QUOTE=JonesLover;2706482]Hello,
Anyone know Zamboanga city? Is it a safe city? I would like to visit it and I will go alone. I read that you have to be careful with girls because they cheat you more in this city than in the rest of the Philippines, but is this true or is it just a rumor?[/QUOTE]Zambaoanga girls did look good on the dating sites. I flew a Muslim girl from there to Manila for a 2 nights. She was definitely not a cheater and never asked for any money. I ended up giving her 3 K Peso for extra travel expenses but that was it. I think going there is still dicey. Better bring the girl to you.
LOL I know before everyone gets mad as me saying this is not a weather forum. How bad is the weather in Manila during the month of August. I read through most of the report on here on where to find girls, stay and what apps to download. But did not hear much of the weather in August the reason I am asking is become I am fairly young and even though I want to sleep with lot of PI girls I still want to enjoy myself and experience was PI has to offer. Also any tips on other places (cities) to go in PI that is beautiful for site seeing and exploring. Do not want to spend my whole trip in my hotel room waiting for girls to come over while it's raining all day. Kind of depressing if you ask me.
[QUOTE=BlackCrystal;2707111]LOL I know before everyone gets mad as me saying this is not a weather forum. How bad is the weather in Manila during the month of August. I read through most of the report on here on where to find girls, stay and what apps to download. But did not hear much of the weather in August the reason I am asking is become I am fairly young and even though I want to sleep with lot of PI girls I still want to enjoy myself and experience was PI has to offer. Also any tips on other places (cities) to go in PI that is beautiful for site seeing and exploring. Do not want to spend my whole trip in my hotel room waiting for girls to come over while it's raining all day. Kind of depressing if you ask me.[/QUOTE]Google is your friend.
[URL]https://weatherspark.com/m/134588/8/Average-Weather-in-August-in-Manila-Philippines[/URL]#text=August%20 Weather%20 in%20 Manila%20 Philippines, or%20 exceeding%2080%C2%B0 F.
[QUOTE=JonesLover;2706482]
Anyone know Zamboanga city? Is it a safe city? I would like to visit it and I will go alone. I read that you have to be careful with girls because they cheat you more in this city than in the rest of the Philippines, but is this true or is it just a rumor?[/QUOTE]I think it was 9 years I took a bus from General Santos to Illigan. On the way I stopped in Muslim city Cotabato. Arrived 2:00 PM. The bus stop was super small for the city's population. Nobody was there as in nobody selling drinks, snacks, etc. Very few trikes into town. My trike driver had a buddy with him and they tried to make a detour off the main road but I said hell no. Then when we got to my hotel they tried to double the price. I paid them what I thought it was worth and told them they can speak to the police one block away and pointed to it and I would wait inside the hotel. They never returned. Took one street girl and was ok. Tried another one an hour later and we argued a little about the price before starting. She grabbed my junk not so tenderly and quickly grabbed 200 pisos out of my back pocket. I pretty much ran out at that moment. The streets are pretty empty and all the business closed at 8:00 PM. My hotel pulled down a metal door over the front and had a guard. You are not expected to go out at night. My spider sense told me to get the hell out and I was gone the next morning at 9:00 AM. Only time I ran away from any place. I do not recommend any Muslim area in Phils. Later that year or the next there was a mini civil war in the town next door with military involved. True long ago but I assume things are worse, especially with money issues caused from the covid lockdowns.
[QUOTE=BlackCrystal;2707111]...Also any tips on other places (cities) to go in PI that is beautiful for site seeing and exploring....[/QUOTE]There is a tonne to see all over the PI but specific answers depend in what you enjoy: Partying? Seeking inner zen at Yoga retreats? Natural hikes and scenery? Beaches and diving?
Just Google Philippine Tourist Attractions and cross reference with girl availability here. Many places have girls nearby, online or at least byo options.
You can also post more specific questions here as many members likely have the same interests as you and can give you opinions.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=BlackCrystal;2707111]LOL I know before everyone gets mad as me saying this is not a weather forum. How bad is the weather in Manila during the month of August. [/QUOTE]I've always found Manila dry and hungover in the mornings. Storms develop early and it begins raining pussy about lunchtime. Clouds clear to allow a short rest and meal in the early evening. Everything becomes hot and sweaty again between midnight and 4 am.
This weather pattern repeats until your wallet finally collapses.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=BlackCrystal;2707111]LOL I know before everyone gets mad as me saying this is not a weather forum. How bad is the weather in Manila during the month of August. I read through most of the report on here on where to find girls, stay and what apps to download. But did not hear much of the weather in August the reason I am asking is become I am fairly young and even though I want to sleep with lot of PI girls I still want to enjoy myself and experience was PI has to offer. Also any tips on other places (cities) to go in PI that is beautiful for site seeing and exploring. Do not want to spend my whole trip in my hotel room waiting for girls to come over while it's raining all day. Kind of depressing if you ask me.[/QUOTE]For weather check forecast for the dates you are there. In the tropics rains come and go and the weather is always hot. For girls read the forum posts. For touring and travel google it. Like any country Philippines has a lot on offer. Mostly if you like water sports because it is a chain of islands and water is everywhere.
Sometimes it is not so bad staying in the room with your favorite girl all day whether it is raining outside or not.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2707277].Storms develop early and it begins raining pussy about lunchtime...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackCrystal;2707111] How bad is the weather in Manila during the month of August. . Also any tips on other places (cities) to go in PI that is beautiful for site seeing and exploring. .[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about Manila other than it has an international airport, but I know something about other places.
If you go to a place during typhoon season that gets typhoons, you might die. Tacloban had been on my list for a long time but my intuition told me to can the idea, otherwise I would've been there during that typhoon that wiped the place out.
Living in the Philippines can be testing for even a rich foreigner. I couldn't imagine no electricity, water or food, and no way out. Incidentally, I finally made it a couple years later and I didn't like it. Ormoc had totally changed. And you could still see damage around Tacloban, and every mid range hotel was fully booked, and every good restaurant was packed with NGO guys with their bottle of wine and their Filipina in their new evening dress. By the way, always check to make sure the place youre staying has back up generator. Also ask if its broken, if someone knows how to start it, and if theres gas.. haha.
The Visayas are noted for water sports but it lies in the typhoon belt. I was in Iloilo once and it started raining. Three hours later it was still raining. It rained all night, and three days later it was still raining.
Across the channel from Iloilo is Bacolod. Bacolod gets a lot of rain too but probably not as much as Iloilo. But on the south end of the same island is Dumaguete, which has the best weather of anywhere I've been in the Philippines. It's typically 30 see and sunny. That's one reason there's thousands of goofball foreigners living there. (No offense, Cups, you're not a goofball).
I was one of those goofballs living in Dumaguete, and I'the sit under sunny skies every day, and you could watch as clouds would form over the southern tip of Cebu island, then rain for the rest of the afternoon. Also you could look out at Siquijoir (pronounced sicky-hoar) and watch clouds develop every day and be raining by afternoon.
I'the look out in the direction of Bohol and watch these giant cumulonimbus clouds towering to 40,000 feet every day then finally over develop, so I assumed it was raining out at Bohol. I eventually decided to go there and hopped on the boat. Halfway there we drive into this huge rain squall. When we finally arrived in Tagbilaran it was still raining. And it rained for most of the few days I was there so I didn't get to do the things I wanted to do. I went to Bohol another time and stayed at Panglao and recall the weather being pretty good.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2705234]Are you saying you saw prices jump [B]up[/B]? Never seen that. [/QUOTE]Sorry, I missed this post recently. Yes, out of the blue, more than once, the price of a long-vacant unit approximately doubled (for a month's stay), and for apparently no reason. Strange (and stranger) things happened during the pandemic.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2707273]I think it was 9 years I took a bus from General Santos to Illigan. On the way I stopped in Muslim city Cotabato. Arrived 2:00 PM. The streets are pretty empty and all the business closed at 8:00 PM. My hotel pulled down a metal door over the front and had a guard. You are not expected to go out at night. My spider sense told me to get the hell out and I was gone the next morning at 9:00 AM. Only time I ran away from any place. I do not recommend any Muslim area in Phils. Later that year or the next there was a mini civil war in the town next door with military involved. True long ago but I assume things are worse, especially with money issues caused from the covid lockdowns.[/QUOTE]North Cotabato is incredibly dicey. I had a GF from Pikit which is about 30 miles from CC. Her mother was a social worker and dealt with Muslim conflicts of various types. My GF told me she saw a man shot dead in front of her family home over some dispute. Despite all that, I wasn't deterred and still pursued her. Here is a pic from during those times. She's now married with 5 kids: she was a hot little number.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2707273]I think it was 9 years I took a bus from General Santos to Illigan. On the way I stopped in Muslim city Cotabato. SNIP
My hotel pulled down a metal door over the front and had a guard. You are not expected to go out at night. My spider sense told me to get the hell out and I was gone the next morning at 9:00 AM. Only time I ran away from any place. I do not recommend any Muslim area in Phils. Later that year or the next there was a mini civil war in the town next door with military involved. True long ago but I assume things are worse, especially with money issues caused from the covid lockdowns.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2711902]North Cotabato is incredibly dicey. [/QUOTE]My general rule of thumb for folks who are not familiar with Mindanao, is to draw a line on the map from Cagayan de Oro in the north, down to Davao (or alternately, down to Gen San) in the south. Don't travel west of that line. Can't imagine the need for any newb to go there. I get PM's from guys who are planning on a side trip to Zamboanga to meet a dating site girl. Please, stay in Cebu and bring the girl to you. So many poonanas available everywhere in Phils, no need to go anywhere sketchy on your first Mindanao trip.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2711902]Here is a pic from during those times. She's now married with 5 kids: she was a hot little number.[/QUOTE]That's a pretty burkha. 👍.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2707708]I don't know anything about Manila other than it has an international airport, but I know something about other places. If you go to a place during typhoon season that gets typhoons, you might die. Living in the Philippines can be testing for even a rich foreigner. I couldn't imagine no electricity, water or food, and no way out. (No offense, Cups, you're not a goofball). I was one of those goofballs living in Dumaguete, and I would sit under sunny skies every day, and you could watch as clouds would form over the southern tip of Cebu island, then rain for the rest of the afternoon. Also you could look out at Siquijor (pronounced sicky-hoar) and watch clouds develop every day and be raining by afternoon.[/QUOTE]Hi Sam,
The weather up here in Valencia, West of Dumaguete, is about as ideal as it gets: 70's - 80's and will get steadily cooler the rest of the year. Storm clouds form quickly in and around Mt. Talinis, where I live, and in my netted, open-air house it sounds as if I am inside the cumulonimbus. Rain makes me especially horny especially when the power goes out there is nothing else to do besides fuck or play acoustic guitar. Water outages occur once or twice a month, too, but my swimming pool serves as temporary relief. I love it here. Cheers.
Was watching a youtube video by Tim K and he and his Filipina wife were flying from Kuala Lumpur back to the Philippines and were denied entry. Because 'fully vaccinated' in PH means you had one booster. Neither of them had boosters so they had to wait in 'jail' and were sent back to Kuala Lumpur. If you only have 2 shots they won't let you enter the Philippines, you'll need the 3rd (booster). You have an option of doing 5 days in quarantine but they couldn't find any hotels still offering that.
The Philippine peso is at its weakest in relation to the US dollar since November 2005. This is good news for American punters, and their fawns.
[QUOTE=SarasotaJoe;2712768]The Philippine peso is at its weakest in relation to the US dollar since November 2005. This is good news for American punters, and their fawns.[/QUOTE]Not as good as it might first appear. The peso is at almost $1: Php55 true, but inflation is running at about 5% and for some goods up to 8%, so many commodities have started it rise in price rather steeply, and even more so for imported goods.
GE.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2712518]Was watching a youtube video by Tim K and he and his Filipina wife were flying from Kuala Lumpur back to the Philippines and were denied entry. Because 'fully vaccinated' in PH means you had one booster. Neither of them had boosters so they had to wait in 'jail' and were sent back to Kuala Lumpur. If you only have 2 shots they won't let you enter the Philippines, you'll need the 3rd (booster). You have an option of doing 5 days in quarantine but they couldn't find any hotels still offering that.[/QUOTE]The current entry requirements are very clear, and posted on all airline websites. If you don't have a booster shot, you can present a negative COVID test result -- either RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours of departure or rapid antigen test taken within 24 hours. I had the latter before returning from Thailand; it costs about $20 and they emailed me the test result in less than 2 hours. Easy peasy!
[QUOTE=Breadman;2712518]Was watching a youtube video by Tim K and he and his Filipina wife were flying from Kuala Lumpur back to the Philippines and were denied entry. Because 'fully vaccinated' in PH means you had one booster. Neither of them had boosters so they had to wait in 'jail' and were sent back to Kuala Lumpur. If you only have 2 shots they won't let you enter the Philippines, you'll need the 3rd (booster). You have an option of doing 5 days in quarantine but they couldn't find any hotels still offering that.[/QUOTE]I watched the vid:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO1_zJfLpFk[/URL]
I am guessing that is the one? At 9:23 into the video, sitting at NAIA, she turns to her husband and says: "What it the difference in getting your antigen test there (KL) and here?" It appears they did not get covid tested within the 24 hour window prior to departure in KL. The BOQ waives the pre-departure covid test only if you are boosted. At 15:50 into the video, the husband confessed that the couple didn't follow the rules. I must say, the gent remained calm and cool thru the video. Apparently the airline failed them in KL by checking their documents THREE TIMES and missing the required negative covid test each time.
A couple of thoughts about the video. The first third is spent at their hotel and the KL airport. The camera is on a selfie stick, and hubby likes to slowly turn circles while talking into the camera; you could get motion-sickness as the background does not stop turning. Also notice at NAIA, the public areas where they are with the BOQ people, calm, orderly, quiet.
The couple was sent back. A stark reminder of how serious and unbending the government is here regarding the 'rules'.
A month ago somebody mentioned this place for printing needs: InterMatrix. See pics. Its on Makat Ave, next door to Hossein's resto, and across the street from the Sogo (Makati Ave corner Burgos street). Walk in with your stuff, or email them and then walk in. They are relatively fast. I emailed them 6 pages of documents that I needed printed in color and walked in to pick them up. I also needed a passport-type pic of myself for a government document, so I took a selfie on the wall, square-cropped it, and emailed it to them right then. They printed the color documents and eight 2"x2" pics for me for p175. I was in the store for 5 minutes. Have been back several times, they do good work. Open 9 am-6 pm.
I have been living in Cebu City since July 2019 and when I arrived I was given a 30 day tourist visa. Immigration allows you to apply for extensions (normally a maximum of 6 months at a time) up to a maximum of 3 years, after which you need to exit the country.
There doesn't appear to be a time limit set on how long you need to exit the country for. On my last visit to the Immigration office in Lapu-Lapu I asked if it would be ok if I left then returned the same day, and was told that would be alright.
So my 3 years is up and I have just left the Philippines, it was my first trip out of the country since I arrived in 2019. I was originally planning a week-long trip to Taiwan (I have never been there), but they still have Covid restrictions in place which would mean that on arrival I would need to quarantine for 3 days!
Fcuk that!
About 2 weeks ago I read that Thailand will be scrapping all Covid restrictions on July 1, which was perfect timing for me! That was a deciding factor for me so I booked a return flight to Thailand and am now in Bangkok and will be going back to Cebu in about 3 weeks.
Now there are no restrictions on entry into Thailand for the vaxxed or the unvaxxed. The outdoor face-mask requirement has been dropped, the requirement for a compulsory certification of fitness for entry has been dropped, the compulsory Thailand Pass registration and compulsory insurance requirements have been lifted, and there will be no requirement to obtain a Covid test before arrival in Thailand. Apparently there will be random Covid tests at the airports on arriving unvaxxed passengers.
I am unvaxxed and have never had a Covid test. Covid tests were not required when leaving Cebu and Manila, but when checking in at the Mactan-Cebu airport I was asked to show my proof of vaccination record and was told it would be needed for arrival in Thailand. I advised them that this restriction has been lifted, from July 1, but they were insistent that it was needed and advised me that without it I would not be allowed to board! So I reluctantly showed them a screenshot of my son's UK vaccination record which I have doctored with my name, and hoped they wouldn't try and validate it but after a quick glance at my phone they gave me the OK.
When I arrived at the airport in Bkk, and before I went through Immigration, I was asked to provide my proof of vaccination record and my passport. I saw that they were only checking the name on the vax record to see if it matched the name on the passport, there was no validation check on the authenticity of the vax record, each inspection lasted no more than about 10 seconds, so I showed mine and I breezed through.
I took my face mask off on the plane when I was about half way to Bkk, I was not challenged, and don't plan to wear it again until I arrive back in the Phillipines.
Face-masks are still required to be worn in the Philippines when outdoors and when entering restaurants, shopping malls etc. From observation since arriving in Bkk in the early hours of Saturday morning, close to 100% of Thais and foreigners were still wearing face-masks outdoors and in the malls, despite there being no requirement to do so! Apparently a face mask is required on public transport, I have used meter taxis and both the MRT and the BTS since I arrived and never bothered with a face mask and I was never challenged.
I had a wander around Patpong Saturday night and Soi Nana last night, and plan to visit Soi Cowboy tonight. I will post a report in the Thailand forum in a day or two.
I'm not sure what's going to happen when I arrive back in Manila, if they are validating the vax records for foreign arrivals then I won't be able to use my doctored vax record, I may end up having to go into quarantine.
A reminder; if you have spent more than 6 months in the Philippines on a tourist visa you need to obtain an 'exit clearance' from Immigration before you leave, I got mine last week and it cost P500.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]There doesn't appear to be a time limit set on how long you need to exit the country for. On my last visit to the Immigration office in Lapu-Lapu I asked if it would be ok if I left then returned the same day, and was told that would be alright.[/QUOTE]Know of 2 gents. One flew to HK, the other to Taiwan. I mention them because they both said they ate a meal there, then returned back to Phils immediately, to restart their 3-year Phils poon-pounding ritual.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]About 2 weeks ago I read that Thailand will be scrapping all Covid restrictions on July 1, which was perfect timing for me! That was a deciding factor for me so I booked a return flight to Thailand and am now in Bangkok and will be going back to Cebu in about 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Good call. Better hunting in Thai.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]I'm not sure what's going to happen when I arrive back in Manila, if they are validating the vax records for foreign arrivals then I won't be able to use my doctored vax record, I may end up having to go into quarantine.[/QUOTE]Will PM you.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]A reminder; if you have spent more than 6 months in the Philippines on a tourist visa you need to obtain an 'exit clearance' from Immigration before you leave, I got mine last week and it cost P500.[/QUOTE]Ya. Nobody at BI mentions that you need one. If you aren't aware of it, you might just get chewed out by outbound BI upon exit from NAIA, and pay a fee.
I am anti-mask for the vaccinated, and pro 'restrict the unvaccinated from participating in society'. I guess if you want to commit international felonies that is between you and your god, the universe, Allah, or whatever imaginary deity you worship.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]
I am unvaxxed and have never had a Covid test. Covid tests were not required when leaving Cebu and Manila, but when checking in at the Mactan-Cebu airport I was asked to show my proof of vaccination record and was told it would be needed for arrival in Thailand. I advised them that this restriction has been lifted, from July 1, but they were insistent that it was needed and advised me that without it I would not be allowed to board! So I reluctantly showed them a screenshot of my son's UK vaccination record which I have doctored with my name, and hoped they wouldn't try and validate it but after a quick glance at my phone they gave me the OK.
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[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]
I'm not sure what's going to happen when I arrive back in Manila, if they are validating the vax records for foreign arrivals then I won't be able to use my doctored vax record, I may end up having to go into quarantine.
[/QUOTE]You still need your Philippines health pass to be done prior to boarding. Not a problem if you are vaccinated. You should check on process if not.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2716025]I have been living in Cebu City since July 2019 and when I arrived I was given a 30 day tourist visa. Immigration allows you to apply for extensions (normally a maximum of 6 months at a ti).[/QUOTE]You can buy vax papers in Europe for 250 euro, as many jabs as you like. I am sure many doctors in Phils and Thailand would oblige. I am unvaxxed myself and have no papers but would get them under certain circumstances. I will get vaxxed under no circumstances, which is a pity as I miss banging stunners two at a time for chump change.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2716294]You still need your Philippines health pass to be done prior to boarding. Not a problem if you are vaccinated. You should check on process if not.[/QUOTE]Some general info from the DOH website: [URL]https://doh.gov.ph/[/URL].
Here is a DOH list of accredited Covid-19 testing labs. There are dozens of other labs that offer testing, including those who are mobile and can come to your address with an appointment made in advance (find on social media, and my previously posted pics):
[URL]https://doh.gov.ph/licensed-covid-19-testing-laboratories[/URL]
And here is a list of DOH-approved telemedicine service providers (each has a link you can click on):
[URL]https://doh.gov.ph/List-of-DOH-vetted-3rd-Party-Telemedicine-Service-Providers[/URL]
See pics. That's St. Giles hotel with the large "Multiple Use Hotel" sign outside. Some floors for regular customers, other floors for quarantine (you remember, for like the guy previously reported here from the youtube link, you flew in from KL with his pinay wife, and was deported for not getting a pre-flight covid test, and couldn't find a Q hotel) or Covid patients. Red Planet hotels and others are "Multiple Use" now. Other pics are DOH stats on number of cases, number of vaxxes.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2716059]I am anti-mask for the vaccinated, and pro 'restrict the unvaccinated from participating in society'. I guess if you want to commit international felonies that is between you and your god, the universe, Allah, or whatever imaginary deity you worship.[/QUOTE]You are definitely believing in something imaginary if you are still holding on to this belief when the health minister of Thailand caught covid after being vaccinated 6 times and 1 visit to France. Meanwhile this guy here has participated in the society of at least 7 different countries with no vaccination in these covid times. Why should the person with no covid and no vaccination need a muzzle, but the health minister of Thailand with covid and 6 jabs be allowed to roam free and spread the disease around?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2716326]You can buy vax papers in Europe for 250 euro, as many jabs as you like. [/QUOTE]Or you could make your own for free.
I can't find anything online that says unvaxxed foreigners can enter Phils. Previously, I thought that they could, if they quarantined first. Not sure where I saw that (or maybe I misread it). I looked on these, and all call for a full vaccination for entry (in addition, fully vaxxed + booster allows skipping the pre-departure covid test). Anyone see anything that says un-vaccinated foreigners can enter if they quarantine?
[URL]https://visitor.tourism.gov.ph/[/URL]
[URL]https://biyahefinder.com/covid-travel-requirements-to-the-philippines/[/URL]
[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-updated-philippine-entry-and-exit-requirements-june-1-2022/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2716735]Anyone see anything that says un-vaccinated foreigners can enter if they quarantine?[/QUOTE]
If you saw previous post before editing, ignore what I said. I checked Travel Restriction guides I was issued by my HR department for both times I travelled back from Middle East. It clearly says all foreign nationals must provide acceptable proof of vaccination.
Just for those using faked certification, guidance states:
“Fraudulent and/or unverified vaccine certification, and passengers non compliance with insurance requirements shall be liability of airline carriers”
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2716402]Or you could make your own for free.[/QUOTE]I don't have those skills and I am not going to risk being in big doo doo in Manila.
I did check up for the 10000th time travelling from Thailand to Philippines on a US passport unvaccunated. Mixed signals: 1. No entry. 2. Covid test needed.
I am not going to get caught out with such cross messages, arguing with an immigration moron. Nazi / official. I do miss the BBFS and the clap but I have other interests. I was out weeding this morning, much better than being forced to give BBNJCIM in some Manila dungeon.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2716735]Anyone see anything that says un-vaccinated foreigners can enter if they quarantine?
[/QUOTE]There used to be a blurb about foreign nationals being able to enter with a medical cert after recovering from covid and / or following strict testing protocols accepting the quarantine. How ever it seems as if they just totally stopped accepting unvaccinated foreigners. Seems like the confusion is that Filipinos can get in unvaccinated given the right circumstances but they seem to have totally banned unvaccinated foreigners. They may not even offer quarantine facilities to foreigners now as this website doesn't even show any available hotels anymore. ([URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/ph/home/covid-19/ArrivingInThePH/ManilaQuarantineHotels[/URL]).
The language seems to have changed and now states "Unvaccinated, partially vaccinated, and those whose vaccination status cannot be verified are not Allowed to travel to the Philippines. ".
[URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/ph/home/covid-19/arrivingintheph#:~:text=New%20Entry%2C%20Testing%2C%20and%20Quarantine%20Protocols&text=All%20arriving%20passengers%20must%20register,protocols%20of%20the%20parent%2Fs.[/URL]
Edit: actually at the top of the page is says this "International passengers must follow the arrival procedures of their PH port of entry mandated by PAL and the Philippine Government. Unvaccinated, partially vaccinated, and passengers whose vaccination status cannot be verified shall be required to complete a facility-based quarantine at the first port of entry into the Philippines, regardless the onward domestic destination. Ensure to check your first PH arrival airport prior to booking the facility." meh? I dont know.... lol!
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2717148]There used to be a blurb about foreign nationals being able to enter with a medical cert after recovering from covid and / or following strict testing protocols accepting the quarantine. How ever it seems as if they just totally stopped accepting unvaccinated foreigners. Seems like the confusion is that Filipinos can get in unvaccinated given the right circumstances but they seem to have totally banned unvaccinated foreigners. They may not even offer quarantine facilities to foreigners now as this website doesn't even show any available hotels anymore. ([URL]https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/ph/home/covid-19/ArrivingInThePH/ManilaQuarantineHotels[/URL]).
The language seems to have changed and now states "Unvaccinated, partially vaccinated, and those whose vaccination status cannot be verified are not Allowed to travel to the Philippines. ".[/QUOTE]You mean its a sh*t-show of:
1) Government mis-information?
2) Internet mis-information?
3) Nobody really knows what to expect?
4) "Hope it works once I land at NAIA based on what that chick Jennifer Terri said on youtube"?
We would all be shocked. SHOCKED to learn this. Previously (2 months ago) on the OHP website, if you failed to upload a pic of your vaccination card, you had to drop down a menu of Q hotels and choose one (you could not proceed with your OHP requirements without it). The list had more than 500 hotels in the NCR. As I am not utilizing the OHP website, I am not sure if that part is even still there. However from the vid provided by Breadman of the KL-NAIA gent who was turned away a few weeks ago, that gent was provided with a list of such Q hotels at NAIA; he and the missus were shown in his vid as busy calling some of those hotels (he had forgotten to get his pre-departure covid test).
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2716952]I don't have those skills and I am not going to risk being in big doo doo in Manila.
I did check up for the 10000th time travelling from Thailand to Philippines on a US passport unvaccunated. Mixed signals: 1. No entry. 2. Covid test needed.
I am not going to get caught out with such cross messages, arguing with an immigration moron.[/QUOTE]You don't just run in and rob a bank; you stake it out first. Your uneasiness is from not knowing how the process works. When I entered Thailand you had to register with Thailand Pass. You upload your vaccine card and shit. Then when you are approved, they send you a qr code to print out. When you arrived at the airport in Bangkok they are only checking for the qr code. Nobody is scrutinizing your documents or calling around to check if they are authentic. I used to date a chick that worked at a bank. She said the best time to rob it is at lunch time because they don't have time to drop the money.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2716049]
Will PM you.
[/QUOTE]Got it, will reply soon.
Landed in NAIA terminal 3 the other night. Easy peasy entry with One Health Pass QR code. You register online with One Health Pass online 48 hours before landing. They said before departure but it wouldn't let me do that. Also OHP will email you hard copy which never happened. Just screen shot the QR code for entry.
Upon landing a few meters into the airport they will check you for your QR code. If you have one then you proceed on. If not, there is a separate line to show your vaccination card and get processed.
I moved on to immigration. Right before immigration they scan your QR code and then you moved forward to immigration. No lines. I was finished in 2 minutes. Possibly because my plane landed 20 minutes early and there were no other planes. Clearly they were caught off guard as there were only 3 immigration lines. As I went thru the line I could see 4 other immigration officers rushing to open up.
Is school about to re-open? Gentlemen, start your (financial) engines.
The pinay will be asking for their college, or their kids stuff, soon. Uniforms, shoes, backpacks, tuition, projects, test fees and fees for this and fees for that; all manner of supply. Those in-country are about to be swamped in poon-juice.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2719412]Is school about to re-open? Gentlemen, start your (financial) engines.
The pinay will be asking for their college, or their kids stuff, soon. Uniforms, shoes, backpacks, tuition, projects, test fees and fees for this and fees for that; all manner of supply. Those in-country are about to be swamped in poon-juice.[/QUOTE]Blended learning from August for kids. 'Single' mum's will definitely be financing everything mentioned.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2719412]Is school about to re-open? Gentlemen, start your (financial) engines.
The pinay will be asking for their college, or their kids stuff, soon. Uniforms, shoes, backpacks, tuition, projects, test fees and fees for this and fees for that; all manner of supply. Those in-country are about to be swamped in poon-juice.[/QUOTE]I hate you. 😜.
A couple of trips ago, I arrived in Cebu at the beginning of exam season and left completely drained. It's still burnt into my memory.
I'm not jealous. Really I'm not. 🤬.
Enjoy. G.
For those of us that have been clipped for thousands of dollars for last minute flights to the Phils lately, some good news via Jennifer Terry (first mentioned by West Coast).
Up to now it was necessary to present a negative covid test even if you were just laying over for a few hours in Taipei before getting the next flight to Manila. Just to be in the transit lounge! That obviously stopped lots of people from using Eva. From July 14, this crazy rule has been dropped and using the USA-Taipei-Manila route is back on.
I've been looking at the JFK Taipei Manila flights for September and they can be had for a little over $1 K. An incredible improvement. This undoubtedly will put pressure on PAL to lower their exorbitant prices.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2719412]Is school about to re-open? Gentlemen, start your (financial) engines.
The pinay will be asking for their college, or their kids stuff, soon. Uniforms, shoes, backpacks, tuition, projects, test fees and fees for this and fees for that; all manner of supply. Those in-country are about to be swamped in poon-juice.[/QUOTE]This brings back memories of a gal who ran out of cooking school tuition. I didn't pay her balance, but I contributed a few k pesos to her cause. Very tired after those 2 days together! LOL!
Getting a PCR test in Manila if needed. "Swab and Go", several locations in the NCR. P2350 (looks like 24 hours maybe) to p3350 (results 4-8 hours).
Brought to you by Westy's "Getta-vax / Give-a-pina-vax" program.
Very disappointed. But all the advice and info this community provided will not go to waste.
I will reschedule early next year.
Thanks to all of you for your help.
I'm a new monger here but I have been to Costa Rica twice and am absolutely in love with this hobby. However I want to look into the Philippines. Where do I go to look for working girls? How much does do they usually charge? Is there a monger friendly area?
[QUOTE=Esolis;2722024]I'm a new monger here but I have been to Costa Rica twice and am absolutely in love with this hobby. However I want to look into the Philippines. Where do I go to look for working girls? How much does do they usually charge? Is there a monger friendly area?[/QUOTE]You are misinformed. There is no mongering in the Philippines. Filipinas are super conservative and never have sex before marriage. Prostitution is highly illegal and penalty is death if you get caught. Stay away!
The rain and heat might get you before Covid.
Hydrate. Hydrate.
I am just fearing more brown outs and / or blackouts.
[QUOTE=Esolis;2722024]I'm a new monger here but I have been to Costa Rica twice and am absolutely in love with this hobby. However I want to look into the Philippines. Where do I go to look for working girls? How much does do they usually charge? Is there a monger friendly area?[/QUOTE]I would agree with Expat American on this.
Or if you need details as your question begs so many better PM me.
Look forward to it.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2722130]You are misinformed. There is no mongering in the Philippines. Filipinas are super conservative and never have sex before marriage. Prostitution is highly illegal and penalty is death if you get caught. Stay away![/QUOTE]So true, and maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but it would seem like mongering activity is not one of those that will earn you a beheading. Just stay away from selling Avon cosmetics and herbal teas and the OP might be just fine?
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/22/alqaida.terrorism[/URL]
[QUOTE=Esolis;2722024]I'm a new monger here but I have been to Costa Rica twice and am absolutely in love with this hobby. However I want to look into the Philippines. Where do I go to look for working girls? How much does do they usually charge? Is there a monger friendly area?[/QUOTE]Please do NOT import Costa Rican prices to the Philippines!
Last week, two days before my flight from Bkk to Manila, I registered online at [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] by way of clicking on the 'Register' button/link though there is another button/link named 'e-HDC' which appears to link thru to the same page as the first link.
You will be unable to register more than 72 hours before your departure date.
After completing the form with my personal details, I then uploaded a copy of my vax record, in all, it took less than 5 minutes. I did not need to provide a pre-departure negative covid test result.
Within a few seconds after hitting the submit button, their website confirmed my registration and I was given a ten-digit registration code. You can take a screenshot of this page which includes a QR code. There was a note that said they would email me with confirmation but it never arrived.
Later, I went back to their website and clicked on the 'My Profile' button/link, after entering my surname and the ten-digit registration code it brought up a page with a 'VALID FOR BOARDING' message. It had a barcode, this is the proof you will need to show when you are checking in with your airline and also when you arrive in the Philippines so take a screenshot.
When travelling to the Philippines there is no longer any requirement to have insurance. And if you are 'fully vaxxed' (check [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] to see their definition of 'fully vaxxed') you are no longer required to obtain a pre-departure negative covid test result.
When I dropped my bag off with Philippine Airlines at their check-in desk at Suvarnabhumi airport in Bkk, for my Bkk-Manila flight, I was asked by the check-in clerk to show my vax card and proof of registration with onehealthpass. I showed her the screenshots on my phone and she gave me the ok. She then asked me for details of my onward flight from the Philippines, which I didn't have, and she told me that I couldn't board the flight unless I was able to show her details of an onward flight! She advised me to make a booking online.
I explained that I was actually travelling back to the Philippines on a return ticket that originated in Cebu, and that I was not flying one-way to the Philippines.
She then asked if I live in the Philippines and I said yes, though I do not have citizenship or residency. I still have a rental lease on a condo unit in Cebu City and all my possessions are in the unit. I lived in Cebu City on extended tourist visas for 3 years from July 2019 up till the beginning of this month which was when I had to leave the country, on a visa-run.
The check-in clerk then asked if I had any proof that I had been living in the Philippines, so I showed her my still valid Philippine ACR I-Card (issued by Immigration, and is required for all foreign nationals who have stayed for more than 59 days in the Philippines). 5 seconds later she gave me the OK and finished off the check-in procedure!
After arriving at T2 at NAIA in Manila, I headed for the Immigration desk. Just before the Immigration desk security staff were directing all arriving passengers off into a small holding area where we were asked to show proof of registration with onehealthpass. I opened up my phone and showed a screenshot of the 'VALID FOR BOARDING' page, it was quickly scanned, presumably to make sure that it matched up with the one that was in their database.
So, after they confirmed my registration with onehealthpass, I was out and headed off to the Immigration desk. There was only person in front of me when I got there, when it was my turn I stepped forward and offered my passport, and was asked how long I plan to stay. I said I plan to stay about 2, maybe 3 weeks. I was not asked for proof of onward travel. After about a minute my passport was returned, stamped with a one-month tourist visa.
Having cleared Immigration, I went to collect my luggage and then headed off to the Domestic Terminal to catch my flight back to Cebu.
After arriving in the Philippines back in July 2019 I was given a one-month tourist visa, and then kept extending it up to 3 years which is the maximum period they will give you, after which you must exit the country. There have been reports that some Immigration offices in the Philippines are now refusing to extend the one-month on arrival visa which is offered to tourists from most Western countries.
Next month I will try to extend my one-month visa, and I would be interested to hear from other board members who have managed to recently extend their one-month on arrival visas.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2722308]Please do NOT import Costa Rican prices to the Philippines![/QUOTE]That stopped it immediately!
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Esolis;2722024]I'm a new monger here but I have been to Costa Rica twice and am absolutely in love with this hobby. However I want to look into the Philippines. Where do I go to look for working girls? How much does do they usually charge? Is there a monger friendly area?[/QUOTE]If you are asking these questions it's obvious you have not done any research. Continue your trips to Costa Rica for many years. This place will eat you alive until you learn how to conduct yourself in an Asian country. That is good advice. Just the Manila airport will be a culture shock to anyone that hasn't been there. Stay in Costa Rica for a while, maybe try the DR or Cartagena before you saddle up on this horse.
Past two trips I have noticed a bit of inflation in everything here. The higher USD-PH exchange rate might cover some but certainly not all. Still lower inflation rate than in USA. Of course both countries lie about the actual inflation rate.
I don't know is all this information you posted was posted before but it is good. I am not sure how much more loosening there can be. The online registration is painless and helps everyone clear on arrival quickly. Otherwise queues will probably slow down further. It is not back to pre Covid days for those traveling with a convenient passport like UK or US. At least many countries are making if easier to travel.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2724209]Last week, two days before my flight from Bkk to Manila, I registered online at [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] by way of clicking on the 'Register' button/link though there is another button/link named 'e-HDC' which appears to link thru to the same page as the first link.
You will be unable to register more than 72 hours before your departure date.
After completing the form with my personal details, I then uploaded a copy of my vax record, in all, it took less than 5 minutes. I did not need to provide a pre-departure negative covid test result.
Within a few seconds after hitting the submit button, their website confirmed my registration and I was given a ten-digit registration code. You can take a screenshot of this page which includes a QR code. There was a note that said they would email me with confirmation but it never arrived.
Later, I went back to their website and clicked on the 'My Profile' button/link, after entering my surname and the ten-digit registration code it brought up a page with a 'VALID FOR BOARDING' message. It had a barcode, this is the proof you will need to show when you are checking in with your airline and also when you arrive in the Philippines so take a screenshot.
When travelling to the Philippines there is no longer any requirement to have insurance. And if you are 'fully vaxxed' (check [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] to see their definition of 'fully vaxxed') you are no longer required to obtain a pre-departure negative covid test result..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bushes;2725204]I don't know is all this information you posted was posted before but it is good. I am not sure how much more loosening there can be. The online registration is painless and helps everyone clear on arrival quickly. Otherwise queues will probably slow down further. It is not back to pre Covid days for those traveling with a convenient passport like UK or US. At least many countries are making if easier to travel.[/QUOTE]This is really beyond my comprehension that some people are still willing to step a foot in Thailand or Philippines. There are both at the forefront of the covid dementia for political purposes. Spending my savings in a place where the streets are sprayed to fight a virus is too much to endure. In the meantime, Japan is closing down again amid a huge uptick in contaminations and deaths while 31 % of the pop is triple dosed. Not mentioning NZ which experiencing the same crap with 98% of the pop double dosed.
I'm still hopping to Colombia where a nurse girlfriend of mine filled me in on the previous 3 months vax mandate to enter the country. It was not sustainable since all our hospitalizations are double or triple vax she blurted out. Go figure)).
Anyway, brace yourself for monkey pox lockdowns. It's coming, it's à WHO worldwide emergency, its lethal even though we are still expecting the deaths, and it required a vax to face the threat.
Call center jobs in NCR. Salary up to p37 K monthly. While call center jobs don't pay what engineers or administrators do, they are still considered better than typical 'minimum' wage jobs (p500/ day, or p2500/ week, or p10 k / month). You begin to see a glimpse into what girls need to survive, and hence above that to thrive.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726503]Call center jobs in NCR. Salary up to p37 K monthly. While call center jobs don't pay what engineers or administrators do, they are still considered better than typical 'minimum' wage jobs (p500/ day, or p2500/ week, or p10 k / month). You begin to see a glimpse into what girls need to survive, and hence above that to thrive.[/QUOTE]It's a tragedy. Sort of explains why some are throwing out 5 or 10 k numbers. If girls are getting 1500/ day selling us mobile phone plans why would they accept 1000 to suck a dick? Don't get me started on the girls receiving many multiples of this for nawty yet still contactless screen time.
Online fun and the growth of middle class jobs have decimated the mongering scene in a few countries.
Luckily PI still has a few million broke chicks left. Get in before they are gone. 😜.
Cheers G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2726657]
Luckily PI still has a few million broke chicks left. Get in before they are gone. 😜.
[/QUOTE]I think we have at least a good 10 years left if not 20 before any real change sets in. I will be too old to care that the Philippines has been changed by that point. The other countries I monger in are VERY restrictive and its like walking a tight rope not good places to go during times like these. Phils has been an awesome refuge from the storm.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2726698]....Phils has been an awesome refuge from the storm.[/QUOTE]All jokes aside, PI has been spared the loss of entire districts like other countries: Surabaya's Dolly gone; Blok M gone; 4 Floors gone. While we can lament a decline or price rises, there hasn't been a complete collapse.
I think (hope) that 20 years might be pessimistic. There will always be broke girls around and it's not called "the oldest profession" for nothing. Come back in 1000 years and we will still have Keef Richards, cockroaches and skanky hookers. The ultimate survivors. 😜.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726503]Call center jobs in NCR. Salary up to p37 K monthly. While call center jobs don't pay what engineers or administrators do, they are still considered better than typical 'minimum' wage jobs (p500/ day, or p2500/ week, or p10 k / month). You begin to see a glimpse into what girls need to survive, and hence above that to thrive.[/QUOTE]Many girls are not suited to the most basic call center job. They may not have the English language skills. Many fail the simplest of comprehension and mental processing skills. Yep there are staffs being recruited and offered to western companies that are so far below an acceptable standard. Other have kids and child minding obligations. Many can successfully navigate these hurdles. Sucking cock is a much easier skill to acquire and doesn't need investment in education, training or travel.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2726657]It's a tragedy. Sort of explains why some are throwing out 5 or 10 k numbers. If girls are getting 1500/ day selling us mobile phone plans why would they accept 1000 to suck a dick? Don't get me started on the girls receiving many multiples of this for nawty yet still contactless screen time.
Online fun and the growth of middle class jobs have decimated the mongering scene in a few countries.
Luckily PI still has a few million broke chicks left. Get in before they are gone. 😜.
Cheers G.[/QUOTE]I will PM you.
I will hazard this simple guess: The floodgates of re-opening in February has turned out to be a trickle. My guess is that the pandemic (and inflation) has caused jobs everywhere to dry up, either eliminating such jobs, lowering wages, or decreasing vacation time. Either way, now that the NCR gogos and SW scene has returned, there is a lack of sausage (and wallets) available. The 'can of sardines' (thanks the analogy Beavis) still reigns.
I don't have a good explanation of the online scene's income, vs the desperation of the local scene. Many things about the economy here have baffled me (and others) for a long time.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726803]I will PM you.
I will hazard this simple guess: The floodgates of re-opening in February has turned out to be a trickle. My guess is that the pandemic (and inflation) has caused jobs everywhere to dry up, either eliminating such jobs, lowering wages, or decreasing vacation time. Either way, now that the NCR gogos and SW scene has returned, there is a lack of sausage (and wallets) available. The 'can of sardines' (thanks the analogy Beavis) still reigns.
I don't have a good explanation of the online scene's income, vs the desperation of the local scene. Many things about the economy here have baffled me (and others) for a long time.[/QUOTE]Sure. My post was fairly tongue in cheek 🤣.
It reinforces what we both said before about a polarised market. While girls are hitting the streets in record numbers, whole districts and decades old institutions are being permanently closed.
As a whole, online is a huge market but it's not a bell curve with lots making money. The superstars are making serious coin but there are very very few of them. It doesn't matter if we are talking about IG influencers or manila hookers: the very top few are making a fortune, others see this and expect to be able to replicate this but find themselves making pennies on the dollar.
The floodgates opening with a trickle has numerous reasons, some of it real (economy, job losses, inflation, flight prices etc) and some of it perceived (future insecurity, chaos with flight cancellations etc).
As I said, it's a time of contradictions: many girls tricking for what ever they can get, 10 k opening bids, pent up demand from johns unable to travel and EDSA like institutions closing down. Go figure. 😊.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2726882]It reinforces what we both said before about a polarised market. While girls are hitting the streets in record numbers, whole districts and decades old institutions are being permanently closed.[/QUOTE]The girls never needed the bars. The bars needed the girls. The bars only served as a middle man or meet up place. The game is online now. A chick can sit in the comfort of her own home and wait for a customer to find her. And a customer can also browse hundreds of prospects in a matter of minutes instead of going around place to place. Sucks for the guys that like to sit around and drink beer and look at shows and just touch on the women though. But for the guy that wants to buy pussy and the girl that wants to sell, the old institutions are outdated and serve no purpose.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2727022]The girls never needed the bars. The bars needed the girls. The bars only served as a middle man or meet up place. The game is online now. A chick can sit in the comfort of her own home and wait for a customer to find her. And a customer can also browse hundreds of prospects in a matter of minutes instead of going around place to place. Sucks for the guys that like to sit around and drink beer and look at shows and just touch on the women though. But for the guy that wants to buy pussy and the girl that wants to sell, the old institutions are outdated and serve no purpose.[/QUOTE]Agree the last thing I want to do is sit in a bar listening to guys drivelling shit or have to try and have a conversation over loud music. Even further I don't want to pay for overpriced drinks for which I receive no pleasure from, better to give the girl the money and we both gain.
Hey people,
Need some advice before travel! , October will be the first time in Philippines and I will be there for 3 weeks. I created account in PL and shortlisted around 15 people and got their contact, I was upfront to them and told them that I am only looking for friend and a travel companion and surprisingly most of the people agreed to that. So far the countries I have travelled, I found people using tinder or any dating website and had a awesome experience.
I prefer not to use condom and I believe in Philippines girls are ok with it? I know I can pull out but what kind of birth control available there and what you guys usually buy for girls? There are pills which might be bad for girls and IUD which is safe but expensive. I only plan to be with one girl, and also how to do ask about no condom to girls? Should I just go for it?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2726503]Call center jobs in NCR. Salary up to p37 K monthly. While call center jobs don't pay what engineers or administrators do, they are still considered better than typical 'minimum' wage jobs (p500/ day, or p2500/ week, or p10 k / month). You begin to see a glimpse into what girls need to survive, and hence above that to thrive.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, maybe on the call center salary. Got a couple friends who work the call centers and free lance off time. I sent them that photo. They explained some of that stuff was a scam as that salary seemed high. They wanted to know if I had any more info. If you have a number or contact on that 37 K,please pass along.
[QUOTE=SingamSoup;2727230]Hey people,
Need some advice before travel! , October will be the first time in Philippines and I will be there for 3 weeks. I created account in PL and shortlisted around 15 people and got their contact, I was upfront to them and told them that I am only looking for friend and a travel companion and surprisingly most of the people agreed to that. So far the countries I have travelled, I found people using tinder or any dating website and had a awesome experience.
I prefer not to use condom and I believe in Philippines girls are ok with it? I know I can pull out but what kind of birth control available there and what you guys usually buy for girls? There are pills which might be bad for girls and IUD which is safe but expensive. I only plan to be with one girl, and also how to do ask about no condom to girls? Should I just go for it?[/QUOTE]An interesting question and one of the 8 you have asked already in your 8 FRs 😁.
If you RTFF for say 15 minutes the answers are there. In fact there as a discussion on this matter recently.
Good luck.
Is health insurance card with picture count as picture I. D ?
I have a very pretty girl who says she is 23 still in college. She has this health insurance card with her picture but do not see date of birth. Maybe it is in the back of the card. She sent me only the front of the card. Is this enough to get on a flight?
If not how to ask her to get proper I. D? And what are the normal avenues to get it?
[QUOTE=SingamSoup;2727230]Hey people,
Need some advice before travel! , [/QUOTE]1/ The various internet sites are very reliable as a supply of girls. Having said that, the girls themselves aren't. Expect many no shows or girls being hours late to an appointment. Many, myself included don't even worry about prework but only make contact when we are in town. "Coffee today?" Is much more reliable than "BJ next month?
Committing to one girl, who you have never met before, for three weeks is a huge gamble. Many girls are great fun for a couple of days but not a couple of weeks. Always have an option to send her home. It's much easier to extend a fun girl than to return someone who has travelled with you to another town, has tickets paid for etc.
No condom is very normal and won't be a challenge for you. Morning after pills are available locally or the girls may be on their own plan. Leaving aside the moral discussion, many girls don't really care and will BB without concern. Allways be honest with them regarding if you have had a vas and if you agree to not CIP, then follow through as they (understandably) become furious if this promise is broken.
Are you travelling to many areas or staying in one place? If travelling, it may be better to find a girl in every port than have the risks and costs of committing to bringing one girl everywhere.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2727215]Agree the last thing I want to do is sit in a bar listening to guys drivelling shit or have to try and have a conversation over loud music. Even further I don't want to pay for overpriced drinks for which I receive no pleasure from, better to give the girl the money and we both gain.[/QUOTE]In the current environment of poor atmosphere, bored girls shuffling around a pole and price rises, I'd agree. However, meeting a few buddies for drinks, laughs with some pretty girls, watching a quality stage show put on by energetic and attractive girls, then bar hopping with a gaggle of said girls before returning home was often a good night out.
I get the point and shoot crowd but I also enjoy combining bringing a girl home with a entertaining night out. Click, fuck and leave gets pretty monotonous after a while.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2727419]Hmmm, maybe on the call center salary. Got a couple friends who work the call centers and free lance off time. I sent them that photo. They explained some of that stuff was a scam as that salary seemed high. They wanted to know if I had any more info. If you have a number or contact on that 37 K,please pass along.[/QUOTE]LOC, I don't have any more info. It was on social media, listed on top as SPONSORED, an advertisement. It was simply a random ad in my news feed. There is no phone number there. One would have to go back and find the original ad (if it was still online) in the social media and send them a PM. I screen-captured it only with the intent of posting it here, not for contact info. Notice the ad says "UP TO 37 K", or such, which means a lower starting salary. My feed typically has ads for the NCR.
From experience, in the province, agents I knew were hiring in around p13 k (about twice the minimum in that location), moving upwards of 17- and 18-k after a year if their work was good. Add about 8-10 K per month to those numbers in the NCR, rough guess. While the 37 k looks appealing, its a top-end number in the top-end location.
[QUOTE=SpirouleGroom;2725486]This is really beyond my comprehension that some people are still willing to step a foot in Thailand or Philippines. There are both at the forefront of the covid dementia for political purposes. Spending my savings in a place where the streets are sprayed to fight a virus is too much to endure. In the meantime, Japan is closing down again amid a huge uptick in contaminations and deaths while 31 % of the pop is triple dosed. Not mentioning NZ which experiencing the same crap with 98% of the pop double dosed. I'm still hopping to Colombia where a nurse girlfriend of mine filled me in on the previous 3 months vax mandate to enter the country. It was not sustainable since all our hospitalizations are double or triple vax she blurted out. Go figure. Anyway, brace yourself for monkey pox lockdowns. It's coming, it's WHO worldwide emergency, its lethal even though we are still expecting the deaths, and it required a vax to face the threat.[/QUOTE]There were never any infections. It is all a media-driven psy-op. And once the vaccine-toxins kicked in, it became a self-perpetuating spiral of indefinable malaise and sickness. The world-homicide organisation perps are relying on multiple boosters to achieve their depopulation targets. Latest data from New South Wales (Australia) shows the 4th booster causes double the damage of the first three combined, some of which were saline placebos. The shots ARE the disease. Think with the big head before shooting up to travel for the small one.
From Cebu Pacific Airlines. For the unvaxxed or partially vaxxed, a facility-based quarantine is required, followed by home quarantine until the 14th day.
[b]Unvaccinated, Partially Vaccinated, or Individuals whose Vaccination Status cannot be independently validated:[/b]
1. Negative RT-PCR test result, taken within 48 hours before departure or a negative Antigen test (remotely supervised or laboratory-based), taken within 24 hours before departure.
[i]2. Facility-based quarantine until the release of a negative RT-PCR test result, taken on the 5th day from arrival.
3. Home quarantine until the 14th day from arrival.[/i]
[b]Fully Vaccinated Foreign Nationals:[/b]
1. Proof of Complete Vaccination for COVID-19 (except for children below 12 years old).
[i]2. Negative RT-PCR test result, taken within 48 hours before departure or a negative Antigen test (remotely supervised or laboratory-based), taken within 24 hours before departure. The following passengers are exempted from this requirement:
Foreign nationals aged 18 and above who have received primaries series COVID-19 vaccine and at least 1 COVID-19 booster shot.[/i]
Foreign nationals aged 12 to 17 who are fully vaccinated.
Foreign nationals below 12 years old, regardless of vaccination status, who are accompanied by fully vaccinated parents / guardians.
3. Passport valid for 6 months upon arrival in the Philippines.
4. Return Tickets (for temporary visitors).
5. Self-monitor for 7 days upon arrival.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2727540]LOC, I don't have any more info. It was on social media, listed on top as SPONSORED, an advertisement. It was simply a random ad in my news feed. There is no phone number there. One would have to go back and find the original ad (if it was still online) in the social media and send them a PM. I screen-captured it only with the intent of posting it here, not for contact info. Notice the ad says "UP TO 37 K", or such, which means a lower starting salary. My feed typically has ads for the NCR.
From experience, in the province, agents I knew were hiring in around p13 k (about twice the minimum in that location), moving upwards of 17- and 18-k after a year if their work was good. Add about 8-10 K per month to those numbers in the NCR, rough guess. While the 37 k looks appealing, its a top-end number in the top-end location.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks. Yeah those two girls make in the low twenty's range as they have been doing it awhile. A increase to 37 k yes I'm sure peaked their interest.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2727458]Is health insurance card with picture count as picture I. D ?
I have a very pretty girl who says she is 23 still in college. She has this health insurance card with her picture but do not see date of birth. Maybe it is in the back of the card. She sent me only the front of the card. Is this enough to get on a flight?
If not how to ask her to get proper I. D? And what are the normal avenues to get it?[/QUOTE]It maybe ok with the airlines.
I am under the impression that most colleges issues ID. Unless due to Covid and no face to face classes.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2727941]It maybe ok with the airlines.
I am under the impression that most colleges issues ID. Unless due to Covid and no face to face classes.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what she said. Classes online only for the moment. Anyway I have asked her to get her birth certificate and go get a police I. D
[QUOTE=Sammon;2727944]That is exactly what she said. Classes online only for the moment. Anyway I have asked her to get her birth certificate and go get a police I. D[/QUOTE]Process for getting a valid ID: Very easy, with some cash. There are 20+ postal offices in the NCR that will make a postal ID on the spot. Cost I think is about p800 for the ID, and if you want same-day, an additional fee of about p400. You can even have it delivered to your home for a delivery fee of about p200. You can find it on the Phils Post Office website.
Caveat: To get ANY valid ID, the girl must present her Birth Certificate, or other valid government ID. A BC can be obtained (often same day) at any Philippines Statistical Authority office. In the NCR, there is a PSA at the Makati City Hall. Or you can also order a BC online thru their website, and have it delivered to your door in a week's time for a small fee.
I covered this in a previous post. I got several of my regulars a postal ID this way. Some girls didn't have a BC (or had a terribly mangled copy, or the BC needed spelling corrections) and we ordered it, delivered, thru the PSA. What was really interesting was that the PSA process for ordering online, where you fill in your own information, can be completely made up and fake. Nobody checked, and a few days later it arrived by motorcycle courier (COD). Shocking, that a child born in a hospital is at lease foot-printed for his BC, but any adult can order one online with little or no verification of anything. One girl wanted a Brgy ID, which is a lesser ID. Her Brgy required only a BC, so we got that first. The Brgy ID was p120, and turned out to be a relatively sophisticated drivers license-type of ID, complete with picture and ghosted image in the background. Other Brgy might hand you a sheet of paper with the girl's picture on it (which is not a valid because its a piece of paper).
Sammon, your gal should be able to get both a BC and a postal ID in about 2 weeks time; total cost with less wait time (you pay more) will be p2500-3000. More info coming later on ID validity and such. The last thing you should do is to purchase an airline ticket (possibly not refundable) in her name and take the chance that all of the airport personnel checking ID's (guard at the Departures entry door, Cebu Pacific check-in counter, Security / xray, and finally possibly at the gate for boarding) will all accept a non-valid, non-government ID (all college ID's are not valid, only government ID's are valid). Each guard and CP agent must make a call on the ID, and any one of those calls could find the girl not getting on a flight.
Caution: A police ID might not be considered a valid ID. Even an NBI clearance is not a valid ID (its a cool blue color, but its a piece of paper). There is a difference between an ID and a Valid ID (government-issued, looks like a driver's license). Police ID's come in a variety of forms, depending on the police station and location, and are often valid for less than a year. Many non-valid ID's are often accepted here or there (or, were moreso, pre-covid), but when its important, it might not work. For example, you probably aren't getting into the Intramuros BI or DFA office with a college or Brgy ID (yet, you won't need to show any ID to get into the Circuit Mall / Makati BI office).
The entire system can be wildly confusing, even to locals. Last week a Manila doctor wrote a good opinion piece in the Inquirer.net newspaper on the Philippines' maddess centering around too many ID's, what it means to be licensed (vs having the ID with you), why is it confusing, and why can't it be simpler? More later.
List of doctors and hospitals in the NCR. Cardiologists, dentists, ENT's, chiropractors, hematologists, nephrologists (the study of having too many nephews), neurologists, OG / GYN for your buntis pina, eye docs, pulmonology, surgeons.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2727629]There were never any infections. It is all a media-driven psy-op. And once the vaccine-toxins kicked in, it became a self-perpetuating spiral of indefinable malaise and sickness. The world-homicide organisation perps are relying on multiple boosters to achieve their depopulation targets. Latest data from New South Wales (Australia) shows the 4th booster causes double the damage of the first three combined, some of which were saline placebos. The shots ARE the disease. Think with the big head before shooting up to travel for the small one.[/QUOTE]Seek help.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2727961]Process for getting a valid ID: Very easy, with some cash.[/QUOTE]For may the quiapo markets is the place. Also get that university completion certificate also.
A robust identification system would do the country wonders but for now there are just too many cousins, uncles, nephews with the ability to issue dodgy ID.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2727458]Is health insurance card with picture count as picture I. D ?
I have a very pretty girl who says she is 23 still in college. She has this health insurance card with her picture but do not see date of birth. Maybe it is in the back of the card. She sent me only the front of the card. Is this enough to get on a flight?
If not how to ask her to get proper I. D? And what are the normal avenues to get it?[/QUOTE]All colleges as Dg said issue ID cards.
If flying internationally I have known immigration call the college the girl said she studies and check on registration etc.
Try a Postal ID also as that is cheap to get, Voters ID card?
Much depends on the airline also.
If you think age is shown on the back ask her to send you the flip side. I have done this before and never got what I asked for therefore telling me the ID was fake rtc.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2727647]
3. Passport valid for 6 months upon arrival in the Philippines.
[/QUOTE]Is this really correct? DFA says otherwise:
[I]
Nationals from countries listed below who are traveling to the Philippines for business and tourism purposes are allowed to enter the Philippines without visas for a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days, provided they hold valid tickets for their return journey to port of origin or next port of destination and their passports valid for a period of at least six (6) months [B]beyond the contemplated period of stay. [/B][/I]
[URL]https://dfa.gov.ph/list-of-countries-for-21-day-visa[/URL]
True, but watch Jennifer Terri on youtube. She gives you a bunch of workarounds. Temp tickets for like $50 headed 'out' of the country, and also fairly cheap services that will also do this for you.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2728310]Is this really correct? DFA says otherwise:
"Nationals from countries listed below who are traveling to the Philippines for business and tourism purposes are allowed to enter the Philippines without visas for a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days, provided they hold valid tickets for their return journey to port of origin or next port of destination and their passports valid for a period of at least six (6) months beyond the contemplated period of stay. ".
[URL]https://dfa.gov.ph/list-of-countries-for-21-day-visa[/URL][/QUOTE]
I'll have 5 months to travel (Nov.-April) and my first stop I'd like to be Manila. I've read this forum a lot and it seems the Philippines is the easiest place to get sex? I'm pretty sex craved, very hard to get it in the USA where I'm from, plus I'm Asian and look very weird. I'm 37 and have had sex with 1 white girl that wasn't a prostitute.
I did a little bit of mongering in Ecuador in February of 21'. Went to once casa and the girl was so hot, probably the hottest girl I've touched, but sadly I couldn't cum because I forgot to take Viagra before and I hate condoms. She was nice though, she said she was Venezuelan and I was her first Asian lmao, I hope I didn't scar her for life.
My other mongering trip was to Guadalajara mexico which I didn't end up mongering at all. I was on tinder and met a 38 year old, she asked to go out for drinks (first girl that's ever asked me that). We went out with her friends from high school that she didn't see in awhile, very nerve racking but pretty fun. After drinks her friend asked if we wanted to go to her house to party. Was a cool drive to her house, listened to oasis wonderwall with a bunch of older Mexicans. They gave me snacks and wine and after 2 hours they could tell I was tired so my girl and I left to eat street tacos at midnight. Kisses in the taxi ride back to my hotel, gave her 200 pesos for the taxi driver to take her to her house. Was a nice night. Her friends paid for all the drinks. Long story short we ended up having sex 3 times, and going out to restaurants about 3 times as well as driving around the city, she showed me cool parts of the city (she drives). She paid for some meals, I paid for some meals. The last night I was there the condom broke while she was riding me. I got scared so I gave her 300 pesos to buy a morning after pill. She laughed it off and we said our goodbyes. Not very attractive but very warm and friendly. She was also a moaner in bed which I like. She also liked it rough when I slapped her ass and squeezed her as hard as I could. I wish I still kept in contact with her, not a looker but a good person with good morals. Also had a really pretty daughter, but I respected her too much to ask about her.
My last mongering trip was to Bogota Colombia last October. I met 1 lady online Colombia cupid. We met at a mall and discussed 60 usd for all night. We bought some liquor and beer and went to her apartment. She sells clothes online from a Chinese store or something like that. Anyways we drink for 3 hours and play dominoes which is a pretty fun game (never played). Then sex, but she was a vegetable. I pounded her hard missionary and she just laid there. She was going on vacation to a resort a couple hours away in 2 days and asked if I wanted to come, I said I was leaving Colombia soon. That was false because of this.
When I first got to Bogota I used tinder and matched with a 19 year old red dyed hair girl from suba. She is in love with Korean anything (dramas, bts) so that is probably why she liked me (I'm ugly with no game). She ended up sleeping with me every night for a month. Not sex every night but about 8-10 times. She worked during the day so I would just stay home and wait for her. This was not my plan coming to Bogota, but never have I ever had a cute girl want to fuck me and spend time with me in the USA so I decided to make her my GF. We went to eat at a couple Korean restaurants but mostly just stayed inside and ordered rappi. She looooved sushi. She never asked for money until late. At first I gave her 15 k pesos for a taxi every day and of course I paid for all food. She even cooked for me a couple times. She did ask me to help her buy makeup and some hair dye which I did because we went together to buy, I'm ok with that. I still keep in touch with her to this day. I'll be honest I want to fuck a bunch of hot girls, but that month was nice staying with her, she was sweet, but firm and had a cute personality. I did get jealous a few times when she would FaceTime her guy friends while I was with her. Giggling and flirting etc. She also flirted with a cashier at a store we went to. I chalk it up to Colombian culture but maybe I'm wrong.
This 5 month long trip I plan to visit Manila, cebu, possibly some islands if I meet a nice girl. If I really like it here I'll stay but if I'm not feeling it I will go to Thailand and Bangkok, Pattaya, chiang mai. I met a bunch of j1 visa Thai students at a previous job I was at and they were all so nice.
I find Latina girls to be much more attractive but I'm also Asian and I do not feel comfortable and I feel like a freak / outcast in USA and even mexico / south america even if most south Americans I've met are friendly. I don't mind having sex with less attractive girls (Asia) if it means I feel more comfortable and feel free and at peace within myself just walking down the street or enjoying life outside outside of meeting girls.
I'll post all my reports here and in the other city forums when it happens. I haven't been this excited in a long time. Only 3 more months till I hope to meet a bunch of girls either for paid sex or getting lucky and finding a GF.
Some examples of modern, valid ID's (except the PhilHealth ID). ID's are only valid if they are from the government in some form (PhilHealth ID's are valid because its a government health insurance company, I believe). The new ones came online a few months after the pandemic started in 2020. They look much like a driver's license. Its a sh*t-show sometimes with various clerks or managers disagreeing with you as to if your ID is valid.
I believe the last 3 pics are valid ID's, and the first is not. Notice on the first: Its laminated, you can see the lamination around the edges; and the photo has been taped on. When I say "I believe. . . ", one can never be sure. Even government officials will argue over whether this or that ID is valid. All pics found on google images.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2728310]Is this really correct? DFA says otherwise:
[I]
Nationals from countries listed below who are traveling to the Philippines for business and tourism purposes are allowed to enter the Philippines without visas for a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days, provided they hold valid tickets for their return journey to port of origin or next port of destination and their passports valid for a period of at least six (6) months [B]beyond the contemplated period of stay. [/B][/I]
[URL]https://dfa.gov.ph/list-of-countries-for-21-day-visa[/URL][/QUOTE]The part that you quoted: "3. Passport valid for 6 months upon arrival in the Philippines. " Is from the age 12 and under section. However, its generally true for everyone, your PP must be valid for 6 months (or more) into the future upon your arrival date. If your PP is within 6 months of its coming expiry, you will probably be rejected at any of these points:
1) You purchase a ticket online, and eventually the website asks you for your PP number. If your arrival date is less than 6 months before the PP expiry, the airline (or the website selling the ticket) might reject your purchase for that reason.
2) The website didn't catch the 6-month error upon purchase, and you show up at the airport to check in. At the counter, the airline check-in agent catches the 6-month error (it will probably pop up on his / her screen automatically when they swipe your PP or enter your PP digits), and not allow you to board the plane.
3) Should you make it onboard your flight, then thru to Phils inbound Immigration, almost certainly they will catch the discrepancy and not allow entry. You will be held until they can put you on the next available seat home on your carrier (the carrier is responsible for all such costs, which they will gladly pass on to you, including an increased fee for purchasing a ticket TODAY). I know of several gents who were quickly sent back to their home country for this reason (including a board member here).
Alternately PN, were you asking about something different?
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2728313]True, but watch Jennifer Terri on youtube. She gives you a bunch of workarounds. Temp tickets for like $50 headed 'out' of the country, and also fairly cheap services that will also do this for you.[/QUOTE]Does that come with a get-out-of-jail warranty, like I can argue my case "but someone on youtube said it was OK"?
Thing is I will have to deal with a border officer on my real exit date, obviously having broken this rule.
BTW those sites that sell you a cheap fake (booked / cancelled) tickets do most often NOT provide a verifiable PNR, so I consider those essentially worthless. Border officials have access to the internet too, and are not stupid. It's better not get caught lying / faking stuff when crossing borders, better be spotlessly clean IMO.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2728319]
Alternately PN, were you asking about something different?[/QUOTE]Mea culpa, but I assume age makes no difference in this respect.
Yes, my question was if Cebu Pacific had posted incorrect information.
The questions you answered, that I did not ask - thank you for that - are of course very pertinent, and I agree, and have already considered those outcomes. This is not my first rodeo.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2728320]Does that come with a get-out-of-jail warranty, like I can argue my case "but someone on youtube said it was OK"?
Thing is I will have to deal with a border officer on my real exit date, obviously having broken this rule.
BTW those sites that sell you a cheap fake (booked / cancelled) tickets do most often NOT provide a verifiable PNR, so I consider those essentially worthless. Border officials have access to the internet too, and are not stupid. It's better not get caught lying / faking stuff when crossing borders, better be spotlessly clean IMO.[/QUOTE]Why would you buy a fake ticket? There are real tickets that you can purchase that are fully refundable or refundable with a small fee.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2728508]Why would you buy a fake ticket? There are real tickets that you can purchase that are fully refundable or refundable with a small fee.[/QUOTE]Yeah sometimes you need an actual ticket number and not just a reservation number. But I think those sites may be booking the actual ticket then canceling the reservation. In other words, doing the same thing that you could do for free, but they are charging you $20 to do it.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2728320]BTW those sites that sell you a cheap fake (booked / cancelled) tickets do most often NOT provide a verifiable PNR, so I consider those essentially worthless. Border officials have access to the internet too, and are not stupid. It's better not get caught lying / faking stuff when crossing borders, better be spotlessly clean IMO.[/QUOTE]What is a 'verifiable PNR'?
Thanks for this post. Flew in from US last week and was still a little anxious about not getting in somehow. My experience was basically the with getting the OHP a couple days ahead.
Flew by way of Seoul (Incheon) . In the US, they checked my vax car, but didn't seem to know what the OHP was. Also didn't check for onward ticket.
In Seoul though, there was a special line for those of us headed to Manila and they checked that I had the OHP and my vax card and an onward ticket.
In Manila, they asked to see OHP screenshot on my phone and then stamped my boarding pass with a green stamp saying "self quarantine" I think. I mention this as I don't always keep track of boarding passes after getting on a plane. I was asked 2 times at checkpoints to see my boarding pass with the stamp. May have asked at the passport check too, I can't recall.
For onward tickets, I tend to just buy an Air Asia flight flex ticket. Costs a bit more, but you can change your dates 2 times. This time I bought a ticket to Bangkok, as I plan to got there at some point anyway. Cost about 175 USD. I have also done this same to KL in the past. From there, you can take another flight to many other cities in this part of the world. So if you are unsure of where your next destination will be, it's a good option.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2724209]Last week, two days before my flight from Bkk to Manila, I registered online at [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] by way of clicking on the 'Register' button/link though there is another button/link named 'e-HDC' which appears to link thru to the same page as the first link.
You will be unable to register more than 72 hours before your departure date.
After completing the form with my personal details, I then uploaded a copy of my vax record, in all, it took less than 5 minutes. I did not need to provide a pre-departure negative covid test result.
Within a few seconds after hitting the submit button, their website confirmed my registration and I was given a ten-digit registration code. You can take a screenshot of this page which includes a QR code. There was a note that said they would email me with confirmation but it never arrived.
Later, I went back to their website and clicked on the 'My Profile' button/link, after entering my surname and the ten-digit registration code it brought up a page with a 'VALID FOR BOARDING' message. It had a barcode, this is the proof you will need to show when you are checking in with your airline and also when you arrive in the Philippines so take a screenshot.
When travelling to the Philippines there is no longer any requirement to have insurance. And if you are 'fully vaxxed' (check [URL]https://onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] to see their definition of 'fully vaxxed') you are no longer required to obtain a pre-departure negative covid test result.
When I dropped my bag off with Philippine Airlines at their check-in desk at Suvarnabhumi airport in Bkk, for my Bkk-Manila flight, I was asked by the check-in clerk to show my vax card and proof of registration with onehealthpass. I showed her the screenshots on my phone and she gave me the ok. She then asked me for details of my onward flight from the Philippines, which I didn't have, and she told me that I couldn't board the flight unless I was able to show her details of an onward flight! She advised me to make a booking online.
I explained that I was actually travelling back to the Philippines on a return ticket that originated in Cebu, and that I was not flying one-way to the Philippines.
She then asked if I live in the Philippines and I said yes, though I do not have citizenship or residency. I still have a rental lease on a condo unit in Cebu City and all my possessions are in the unit. I lived in Cebu City on extended tourist visas for 3 years from July 2019 up till the beginning of this month which was when I had to leave the country, on a visa-run.
The check-in clerk then asked if I had any proof that I had been living in the Philippines, so I showed her my still valid Philippine ACR I-Card (issued by Immigration, and is required for all foreign nationals who have stayed for more than 59 days in the Philippines). 5 seconds later she gave me the OK and finished off the check-in procedure!
After arriving at T2 at NAIA in Manila, I headed for the Immigration desk. Just before the Immigration desk security staff were directing all arriving passengers off into a small holding area where we were asked to show proof of registration with onehealthpass. I opened up my phone and showed a screenshot of the 'VALID FOR BOARDING' page, it was quickly scanned, presumably to make sure that it matched up with the one that was in their database.
So, after they confirmed my registration with onehealthpass, I was out and headed off to the Immigration desk. There was only person in front of me when I got there, when it was my turn I stepped forward and offered my passport, and was asked how long I plan to stay. I said I plan to stay about 2, maybe 3 weeks. I was not asked for proof of onward travel. After about a minute my passport was returned, stamped with a one-month tourist visa.
Having cleared Immigration, I went to collect my luggage and then headed off to the Domestic Terminal to catch my flight back to Cebu.
After arriving in the Philippines back in July 2019 I was given a one-month tourist visa, and then kept extending it up to 3 years which is the maximum period they will give you, after which you must exit the country. There have been reports that some Immigration offices in the Philippines are now refusing to extend the one-month on arrival visa which is offered to tourists from most Western countries.
Next month I will try to extend my one-month visa, and I would be interested to hear from other board members who have managed to recently extend their one-month on arrival visas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2728559]Yeah sometimes you need an actual ticket number and not just a reservation number. But I think those sites may be booking the actual ticket then canceling the reservation. In other words, doing the same thing that you could do for free, but they are charging you $20 to do it.[/QUOTE]The route from CRK-SIN is only about $60-65 I opt for this ticket because its a real verifiable ticket. I would buy a round trip ticket but set the return date as far out as I could get it so I would use that half of the ticket for my next return trip. I DID fly the other leg of the trip so I don't think any breaches of policy were committed. But I used to buy a ticket say from Depart in JAN and Return in OCT and then buy a ticket from CRK to SIN at the 30 day mark to show at check in. I would then be free to book my return ticket whenever I felt like it within that 8 moth period. Reason is round trip tickets are cheaper than buying 2 one way tickets so I would juggle these tickets to save a few bucks as I am getting older the need to budget is not as much of an issue and too much hassle. I fly business class now when I can get a deal so I stopped doing this some time ago.
EDIT: I also used this ticket legitimately a few times as SIN has direct flights to Chiang mai, Laos, Myanmar and flights to Jakarta are cheaper through SIN than MNL, during "covid" I don't plan to visit more than 1 country.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2728559]Yeah sometimes you need an actual ticket number and not just a reservation number. But I think those sites may be booking the actual ticket then canceling the reservation. In other words, doing the same thing that you could do for free, but they are charging you $20 to do it.[/QUOTE]Exactly, Mr E. It's just paying for a worthless "service". You will end up with a no longer valid reservation either way.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2728581]What is a 'verifiable PNR'?[/QUOTE]Passenger Name Record.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2728508]Why would you buy a fake ticket? There are real tickets that you can purchase that are fully refundable or refundable with a small fee.[/QUOTE]OK, I will rephrase that for clarity, I thought the (booked / cancelled) part made it clear enough. What those sites do is to "help" you perform a booking and then cancel it for you. If you try to use this cancelled, non-valid booking at a border crossing, you are essentially presenting fake credentials. Will often work, but sometimes not. Getting caught lying to border officials may lead to negative outcomes.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2729810]OK, I will rephrase that for clarity, I thought the (booked / cancelled) part made it clear enough. What those sites do is to "help" you perform a booking and then cancel it for you. If you try to use this cancelled, non-valid booking at a border crossing, you are essentially presenting fake credentials. Will often work, but sometimes not. Getting caught lying to border officials may lead to negative outcomes.[/QUOTE]If you buy a fully refundable fare you can cancel it with full or nearly full refund. You arrive, show your onward ticket then the next day cancel it? No fake document just a valid ticket that you get a refund on. Why involve a third party?
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2729810]OK, I will rephrase that for clarity, I thought the (booked / cancelled) part made it clear enough. What those sites do is to "help" you perform a booking and then cancel it for you. If you try to use this cancelled, non-valid booking at a border crossing, you are essentially presenting fake credentials. Will often work, but sometimes not. Getting caught lying to border officials may lead to negative outcomes.[/QUOTE]My preference is to pre-purchase a 1-way flight to HK, BKK, or such (whichever is cheapest) on CP or PAL (whoever is having a promo), for day 29. That will get you thru Immigration. Then I go to my CP or PAL account online and cancel the flight, which puts the money into the CP or PAL account. Later after extending, I will use it to fly to Cebu or other province. It all works out in the end. I realize that might not work for the 2-week warrior.
The 'Every Man Has A Story' YouTube channel recently reported (for the benefit of antivaxers) that Cebu is admitting tourists, subject to 5 days' hotel quarantine and tests; via Manila vax is still compulsory for entry. A dive into the dank web revealed QR-certificates of vaccination, tailored to country-of-origin by selection, for $149.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2729989]If you buy a fully refundable fare you can cancel it with full or nearly full refund. You arrive, show your onward ticket then the next day cancel it? No fake document just a valid ticket that you get a refund on. Why involve a third party?[/QUOTE]Exactly. This way you will present a fully legit booking at the border crossing. You were in good faith when you presented it (although they very seldom ask you to).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2730020]My preference is to pre-purchase a 1-way flight to HK, BKK, or such (whichever is cheapest) on CP or PAL (whoever is having a promo), for day 29. That will get you thru Immigration. Then I go to my CP or PAL account online and cancel the flight, which puts the money into the CP or PAL account. Later after extending, I will use it to fly to Cebu or other province. It all works out in the end. I realize that might not work for the 2-week warrior.[/QUOTE]Yes this works well too, their travel fund and their site seems to work a bit better nowadays, and you will end up flying Cebu Pacific at some point if you visit Phils frequently.
Well, look who's back. Coming back in with the required covid test, and completing the OHP was less problematic than I thought, but was still a PITA. Regarding OHP. You start entering your info 3 days before your departing flight, including sending them your vax card picture, and answer some health questions. Then within 24 hours you need (ed) a negative covid test, which you upload a picture of the certificate. At that point, OHP generates to you a rectangular bar code, which is good enough to get you on your flight. Within 4 hours of your departure, you are supposed to log into OHP, and it should generate a square QR code.
When I checked in at the airport with my rectangular bar code, that was enough to get me on the plane. However the airline checkin agents were looking thru every piece of documentation, for everyone (it takes time). But logging in to OHP didn't get my my QR code. I tried it several times, right up to the point of being seated on the plane at the gate, waiting pushback. No QR code. Well, OK. A QR code seemed no big deal, according to OHP is simply gets you thru to an 'Express Lane' for Phils Immigration on arrival. However when I landed at my connecting airport, I logged in again to OHP, and the QR code showed up. There were many other passengers at the connecting airport who were not getting their QR code. It turned out to be a clear advantage. Once arriving at NAIA, there were military, dividing up the arriving throng into two groups: QR code to the right, and everyone else to the left. To the left they were lining up to sit and chat with DOH personnel who was going thru all of their documents (at the time, that's a bunch: vax card, covid test, PP, onward ticket, and so on. After they finished there they were heading to the regular Immigration booths. But to the right, there were 2 Immigration booths, and only 2 of us who seemed to have a QR code. They swiped my PP and asked to see my outbound flight. They even gave me an extra day after my outbound flight on the stamp. Then they sent me to baggage claim. Made it thru Immigration in record time, not just because there was no line, but because their checking my stuff seemed to be cursory, a quick look-see. "Enjoy your stay sir". Yes ma'am, there's a good chance that will be happening.
Lets start with Ayala in Makati. All 5 Greenbelts are up / running. Lots of changes in G3. All the restos appear to be re-opened. The first 3 pics are near the Starbucks downstairs show the old Havana Cafe area. HC is gone, replaced with a different resto. The other pics are restos on level 2 and are operating. Everything across the street at LandMark and Glorieta appears to be operating.
More later on Burgos.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2733074.] Then within 24 hours you need (ed) a negative covid test, which you upload a picture of the certificate..[/QUOTE]My understanding is that fully vaccinated travellers no longer require the covid test. Maybe t has changed since you entered.
I arrived back in the Philippines last month and was given a 30-days tourist visa on arrival. I have just obtained a 29 day visa waiver (extension of stay) from my local Bureau of Immigration office. This 29 day period is the maximum period allowed when requesting extra time on your initial 30-days visa on arrival.
At the end of this 29 day period I will be eligible to apply for either a 2 month or a 6 month visa waiver and then to continue doing this up to a maximum period of 3 years, after which you must exit the country.
I had read reports earlier this year that said the BOI were not issuing visa waivers to tourists. I had previously managed to stay for 3 years using their visa waivers and I was very concerned and worried about this supposed rule change as I plan to stay for at least another 3 years. But as it turned out, my worries were for nothing!
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2733245]I arrived back in the Philippines last month and was given a 30-days tourist visa on arrival. I have just obtained a 29 day visa waiver (extension of stay) from my local Bureau of Immigration office. This 29 day period is the maximum period allowed when requesting extra time on your initial 30-days visa on arrival.
At the end of this 29 day period I will be eligible to apply for either a 2 month or a 6 month visa waiver and then to continue doing this up to a maximum period of 3 years, after which you must exit the country.
I had read reports earlier this year that said the BOI were not issuing visa waivers to tourists. I had previously managed to stay for 3 years using their visa waivers and I was very concerned and worried about this supposed rule change as I plan to stay for at least another 3 years. But as it turned out, my worries were for nothing![/QUOTE]This might be more helpful if you were to identify with which passport you are utilizing to make your visa.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2733104]My understanding is that fully vaccinated travellers no longer require the covid test. Maybe t has changed since you entered.[/QUOTE]From Philippine Airlines:
The pre-departure COVID-19 test will not be applicable to the ff:
1. Foreign nationals aged 18 and above who have received primary series of COVID-19 vaccine, and at least one (1) COVID-19 booster shot administered at any time prior to departure.
So better to get a booster than pay for a test.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2733104]My understanding is that fully vaccinated travellers no longer require the covid test. Maybe t has changed since you entered.[/QUOTE]You are correct. I flew in to Cebu from Germany by way of Singapore on July 12 and did not require a negative test. I had my OHP, including the QR code, and I am fully vaccinated. Immigration process was simple and quick.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2733530]You are correct. I flew in to Cebu from Germany by way of Singapore on July 12 and did not require a negative test. I had my OHP, including the QR code, and I am fully vaccinated. Immigration process was simple and quick.[/QUOTE]How is "fully vaccinated" being defined?
For example: is it a couple hits of the pfizer, then some more after a few months, good up to how many months before more boostering to reach / maintain status 'fully' vaccinated?
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2733278]This might be more helpful if you were to identify with which passport you are utilizing to make your visa.[/QUOTE]I actually have two passports, a UK passport and an Irish passport. On my first 3 year stay starting in 2019 I used my UK passport, but now I am using my Irish passport.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2733629]How is "fully vaccinated" being defined?
For example: is it a couple hits of the pfizer, then some more after a few months, good up to how many months before more boostering to reach / maintain status 'fully' vaccinated?[/QUOTE]Oh, good point. To be considered fully vaccinated at this point requires the original shots (assuming a two shot system like Pfizer) as well as a booster shot. Not many countries yet are actively pushing or requiring a second booster, although they are possible to get now, so there is no current requirements in place for the Philippines in terms of time frame for when you have had that second booster. I had a booster shot in mid February, and flew to the Philippines in mid July, so that was five months later.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2733713]Oh, good point. To be considered fully vaccinated at this point requires the original shots (assuming a two shot system like Pfizer) as well as a booster shot. Not many countries yet are actively pushing or requiring a second booster, although they are possible to get now, so there is no current requirements in place for the Philippines in terms of time frame for when you have had that second booster. I had a booster shot in mid February, and flew to the Philippines in mid July, so that was five months later.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think that's right. Without the booster, you will need a negative covid test within 24 hours prior to departure to board the plane. Regardless of the effectiveness of your shots over time, Phils doesn't care how long ago you had your original shots, nor your booster (only that you had them for the sake of determining if you must get a negative covid test before flying).
And speaking of booster. Anyone interested in a booster in the NCR can get one anytime at the Circuit Mall in Makati City (Hippodromo St corner South Ave, a few short blocks from the Manila South Cemetery along South Ave), on floor 2. They have a massive 2-story room set up for it. You can walk in and get one if you have your original shots card.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2733713]Oh, good point. To be considered fully vaccinated at this point requires the original shots (assuming a two shot system like Pfizer) as well as a booster shot.[/QUOTE]How does PH define "booster" here? Is it simply a 3rd shot, ie if "fully vaccinated" by Moderna is 2 shots, then the 3rd Moderna shot is considered a booster?
I have already entered PH once in April under the older requirements (shots + neg antigen <24 hrs) but will be back soon. Would be great to forgo the test.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2733746]How does PH define "booster" here? Is it simply a 3rd shot, ie "fully vaccinated" by Moderna is 2 shots, then the 3rd Moderna shot is considered a booster?
I have already entered PH once in April under the older requirements (shots + neg antigen <24 hrs) but will be back soon. Would be great to forego the test.[/QUOTE]Booster is the 3rd shot. Moderna is good to go.
Don't forget to register One Health Pass and get your QR code.
Forego the test and travel insurance requirement now.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2733754]Booster is the 3rd shot. Moderna is good to go.
Don't forget to register One Health Pass and get your QR code.
Forego the test and travel insurance requirement now.[/QUOTE]Yes I went in June. 3 shots no test required.
Just what I suspected, thanks for clarifying!
Finding a good insurance policy was a PITA in April, so that's great news as well.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2733754]Booster is the 3rd shot. Moderna is good to go.
Don't forget to register One Health Pass and get your QR code.
Forego the test and travel insurance requirement now.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know of a long white sand beach in the Philippines with fairly decent mongering in its proximity?
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2733801]Just what I suspected, thanks for clarifying!
Finding a good insurance policy was a PITA in April, so that's great news as well.[/QUOTE]Good travel insurance in the US was very easy to find online. To drop the price I only used <$1000 for my travel expenses. I was only interested in the $50,000 medical coverage for Covid. I got medical coverage for my last trip even though it wasn't required.
I know of a person who was involved in a serious motorbike accident years ago and the hospital bill was pretty expensive. Luckily he had the travel medical insurance to cover a 2 week hospital stay and the medical flight home to wear his US medical insurance kicked in.
$150 for 30 day coverage is something I gladly pay for.
Simple question:
When do you tell her you've had a vasectomy?
1. At the bar, before you pay the bar fine / while you are still messaging through an app.
2. On the way to your hotel.
3. When you bring her into your room.
4. Before you penetrate.
5. Before she leaves.
6. After she tries to sue you for child support.
7. Never tell.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2734354]Simple question:
When do you tell her you've had a vasectomy?
1. At the bar, before you pay the bar fine / while you are still messaging through an app.
2. On the way to your hotel.
3. When you bring her into your room.
4. Before you penetrate.
5. Before she leaves.
6. After she tries to sue you for child support.
7. Never tell.[/QUOTE]None of the above.
8. When / if she asks you.
But keep no 6 on standby.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2734354]When do you tell her you've had a vasectomy?[/QUOTE]For me it is never. Except one case a chick in Dominican Republic kept pestering me to send money even before the child was born. Funny thing is that the dates lined up and this chick was 25 with no kids. I went and bought a test just to be sure I was shooting blanks. If I did not have a vasectomy then I would have been pretty sure it was mine. I still talk to her every couple of years and have been with her since the baby was born. I showed her my paperwork but she still swears it is mine.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2734354]Simple question:
When do you tell her you've had a vasectomy?
1. At the bar, before you pay the bar fine / while you are still messaging through an app.
2. On the way to your hotel.
3. When you bring her into your room.
4. Before you penetrate.
5. Before she leaves.
6. After she tries to sue you for child support.
7. Never tell.[/QUOTE]When she tells you no bb and you need to close the deal.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2734087]Good travel insurance in the US was very easy to find online. To drop the price I only used <$1000 for my travel expenses. I was only interested in the $50,000 medical coverage for Covid. I got medical coverage for my last trip even though it wasn't required.
I know of a person who was involved in a serious motorbike accident years ago and the hospital bill was pretty expensive. Luckily he had the travel medical insurance to cover a 2 week hospital stay and the medical flight home to wear his US medical insurance kicked in.
$150 for 30 day coverage is something I gladly pay for.[/QUOTE]PAL has a 1 month policy for $87.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2734420]For me it is never. Except one case a chick in Dominican Republic kept pestering me to send money even before the child was born. Funny thing is that the dates lined up and this chick was 25 with no kids. I went and bought a test just to be sure I was shooting blanks. If I did not have a vasectomy then I would have been pretty sure it was mine. I still talk to her every couple of years and have been with her since the baby was born. I showed her my paperwork but she still swears it is mine.[/QUOTE]Long time ago a bargirl claimed me as the father. I had barfined her a year ago. When I went back to the same bar I enquired if the girl still worked there. Lo and behold the mamasan called her phone although she was not working there anymore and in the province. Girl talked to me and said I am the father, I said mine is cut and after that she hung up. I guess she was telling everyone in the bar I am the father because I was with her for three days. We had a great time together.
I would advice not to say anything if you are a two week warrior and circumstances does not require it. At the moment I am chatting with a virgin supposedly who wants to give it up. I told her because she does not want to get pregnant and if sex happens I do not want her to be afraid.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2734087]Good travel insurance in the US was very easy to find online. [/QUOTE]So I did notice, but since I was travelling from Thailand most of those would not be viable.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2733729]Yes, I think that's right. Without the booster, you will need a negative covid test within 24 hours prior to departure to board the plane. Regardless of the effectiveness of your shots over time, Phils doesn't care how long ago you had your original shots, nor your booster (only that you had them for the sake of determining if you must get a negative covid test before flying).
And speaking of booster. Anyone interested in a booster in the NCR can get one anytime at the Circuit Mall in Makati City (Hippodromo St corner South Ave, a few short blocks from the Manila South Cemetery along South Ave), on floor 2. They have a massive 2-story room set up for it. You can walk in and get one if you have your original shots card.[/QUOTE]And what about people that got the j-j one shot and done? They don't recognize that as being vaccinated?
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2734354]Simple question:
When do you tell her you've had a vasectomy?
1. At the bar, before you pay the bar fine / while you are still messaging through an app.
2. On the way to your hotel.
3. When you bring her into your room.
4. Before you penetrate.
5. Before she leaves.
6. After she tries to sue you for child support.
7. Never tell.[/QUOTE]Tell whom? A bar girl? Its irrelevant. People lie all the time and say they have a vasectomy to get her to allow the BBFSCIP. They probably shouldn't believe you anyway. An internet girl? Same thing but maybe it may make her feel a bit better. But seriously how would you know if you had knocked someone up anyway? Only if you keep coming back to the same girl over and over again which in mind defeats the entire purpose of coming to the land of the LBFMs! But I'm just an old fashioned pump and dump guy, not looking for love in the wrong places. LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2734354]
6. After she tries to sue you for child support.
[/QUOTE]If you don't sign the birth certificate and your name is not on it they cannot do this in the Philippines take a guess why the Pinoy boyfriends take off the second they test positive? They may be able to try and prove its yours if they have a very good lawyer if you were cohabitating. So I would only breach this conversation if and when you move into a longer term relationship more than a few months of co-habituation. Without that signature they will have to go through an extra step and prove filiation. You giving money for the kid may also be used to prove filiation I guess they can get a judgement to compel a DNA test but they wouldn't be able to even start the child support proceedings without that signature. Among Japanese mongers it is customary to give these girls a pregnancy test if you watch some Japanese porn they will sometimes do this as they can use this to prove that they were already pregnant at the time as hookers get pregnant and need to find a way to pay for it so they rush around trying to find a surrogate father.
As this topic was raised a few times in other Philippines threads, I will share my thoughts and experiences on the topic of Internet Access.
Mobile Internet Access. This has actually improved a lot over the last few years so much so that you could almost consider working remotely with a good phone (4 or 5 G and dual sim). The main drawbacks here is that coverage can become spotty once you are out of major population areas, also due to bad weather, crime, quakes etc. ; outages can be frequent, hence the need for a dual sim then get a Smart and Globe sim card so you can flip between the major networks as needed. Average cost is around 4-500 Paseos for a couple of weeks high cap data.
For fixed line Access there is the two major telecom companies that I would recommend, either PLDT (Smart) or Globe, the other big access providers are TV / Internet companies such as Sky and Converge, I have stayed both in hotels and Airbnb's with both Sky and Converge and if I need to do any remote work, I refuse to stay where these are the Internet providers, they are OK, but if you need to make Zoom calls or have a good connection to work then these are simply not good enough in my experience (reliability and small outages where the issues I experienced).
If anyone is planning to do some remote work while travelling, my advice would be to stay in Airbnb's and check upfront who the Internet provider is (Hotel's will also tell you, but they tend to be more interested in providing TV channels first and then Internet, rather than the other way round, hence the package deals from Sky and Converge), if they have PLDT or Globe then for me this would be the golden choice, you might be able to get by on just a mobile data connection, but personally for work, I would need both fixed line connection in addition to the mobile data to reduce the risk of disappointment.
Would be interested to hear from others about their experiences as well.
[QUOTE=GhostD;2735137]Would be interested to hear from others about their experiences as well.[/QUOTE]Exact opposite. Lived in two properties in Philippines, one with Sky for 4 years and one with PLDT for 2 years. Had 10 x as many outages in PLDT as I did with Sky, equipment provided by them is also rubbish. Have to restart router frequently which gets in way of work calls due to lack of connectivity. TV channels on PLDT are also poor, even channels labelled as HD are significantly lower quality than those on Sky. When I move next time, definitely going back to Sky.
My Airbnb in Angeles had cable internet with good stable coverage. Speedtest says provider was Converge.
38 MB down / 41 mb up.
[QUOTE=GhostD;2735137]As this topic was raised a few times in other Philippines threads, I will share my thoughts and experiences on the topic of Internet Access.
Would be interested to hear from others about their experiences as well.[/QUOTE]Coverage has improved considerably in the past 3 or so years. Not so much for the TV cable providers, Sky and such, you have the same crappy lineup of mostly pinoy channels in low-def. Even the HD channels I tend to call 'HD-light'.
On the topic of speed. A number of improvements. First lets start with outages, there are fewer. Previously, it was not at all abnormal for even high-end hotels to have crappy speeds (at times falling below 1 mbps, or out completely for a few seconds). Hotels who previously had 2-5 mbps would sometimes say, at the front desk when asking why the Internet was spotty, "Sorry po we have intermittent Internet only". Then, explain why you say you have wifi on your Agoda? Fortunately even those places now have 10-30-ish mbps, which is fine for simple streaming of youtube vids for my girls to listen to love songs or watch Halik (yuck).
Many airbnb condos (the newer ones from the last 5-10 years) have PLDT Fiber or Globe Fiber, offering as much as 150 mbps. This is not to be confused with PLDT Smart / Home or Globe At Home modems, which are not connected to coax or fiber, they have only an electric power plug for the wall, and a SIM card, and are dependent on the same cell towers that your phone uses for its Internet access. These modems are typically crap, using 4 g SIM cards, and inside a condo building, surrounded by other large buildings in the area. Last month I was looking to change condo, so I airbnb several in my current building, and 4 more in nearby residential buildings. I asked to view all of them before agreeing to rent. Key here is to run a phone speed test while hooked to their wifi. In my building, 2 owners had the At Home modems that utilize a SIM card. I got 10-15 mbps and 12-15 mbps at their units. This is crappy considering most units in the building use PLDT Fiber and draw 20-60 on their wifi (and 500+ mbps using a network cat-6 cable). I passed on these. Of the other buildings in the area, I got similar low speeds (5-15 mbps) on all 4 units (SIM cards). The units are in older buildings that don't have any form of fiber run into the building. I passed on these.
I live on the Internet. I avoid any place to stay (for more than 1 night) that might have spotty Internet. No effed zoom or vid or voice calls. Streaming services must work fine, all the time. I saw a sign on a hotel recently that said: "Inquire inside of monthly rates". The front desk said p20 k per month. That's p666 per day, great compared to their daily prices of 2800 (or more). The desk clerk said the 20 k doesn't include an additional 3 k for electric and 1500 for Internet. I asked about Internet speed. "Um. 10 to 30. Like that". I see, seemed ok. But reliable? No outages? "Oh. Yes sir. Customers complain most nights that the system is busy and can't stream or FB". Yuck, anathema to what I need.
Even in the province, early last year, I was able to get Globe to install fiber at my home for 150 mbps. Five years ago nothing like that existed.
It's a good conversation to be had. If I decide to work part time in PH I will definitely need good internet. Anecdotally, I always stay at Central Park in AC. Pre covid the internet was abysmal. Like the worst. You could barely watch Youtube. After returning in March, it was excellent. I streamed NBA games flawlessly. Hopefully the country is modernizing.
I just posted this on the Subic thread but it seems relevant here. I just spent a week in the Pub hotel in Barretto. A consistent 150 mbs. I spent 3 hours last night on Zoom with no problems. I'm trying to work as I travel and it's pretty difficult to get info on internet speeds on, say, Agoda.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2735597]It's a good conversation to be had. If I decide to work part time in PH I will definitely need good internet. Anecdotally, I always stay at Central Park in AC. Pre covid the internet was abysmal. Like the worst. You could barely watch Youtube. After returning in March, it was excellent. I streamed NBA games flawlessly. Hopefully the country is modernizing.[/QUOTE]I had PLDT Home 2 years ago for like 5 months, it costed me: 1,699 php / month, with speed of 15 Mbps.
Then this year for 4 months, they had a deal for: 1,299 php / month, with the same speed of 15 Mbps.
For me 15 Mbps is enough, and I worked alot online, some months Full time (5 days a week / 8 hours per day), BUT most of the time because of COVID only 3 days a week / 8 hours per day.
I also watched alot of NBA games with NBA League Pass. And I never had any problems with my work or watching the game, only the few times that there was a blackout while I was working.
Not sure about online video games, I never played any video games online when I was in Philippines (I haven't played video games since I was a teenager with Super Mario and Super Nintendo, LOL).
About Netflix and YouTube I never had speed problems either with 15 Mbps.
These info is in the province of Negros, so not sure about Manila and Cebu. I usually stayed 1 to 2 weeks max in an airbnb condo (the last 2. 5 years) in Manila and Cebu, and for short stays they always have the internet included.
Just thinking about a few ideas for my Philippines bucket list for my next visit:
Shortest / smallest girl. Pinalove maybe.
Two sisters. I had the older sister last trip 18½ years. She says her (lesbian) Sister turns 18 in October. Might be a chance.
Two for two. I've had a few threesomes, maybe have the same two girls for two days hanging around the apartment for two days / nights.
Provincial live in. Try a provincial city and have a live in for a week. What's it like to settle for a few days.
Church pickup. Attend a provincial church by myself a few times in a row. See what happens.
Heavily Pregnant. A perennial favourite.
40+ - older and maybe bolder.
I'm thinking I'll have time in Makati, AC, Subic and Dumagette to pull these together.
Thoughts?
I've been bouncing around between condos and hotels these last 9 months and when there isn't a comfortable couch in the room I have to improvise a sitting area on the bed using whatever pillows are available to me. Then I got this idea about purchasing an inflatable pillow. But what I was hoping to find was something more than just a pillow, something a bit bigger but still easy to pack along. And I finally found it. An inflatable knee support pillow, might take up about as much room as a pair of swim trunks in your luggage and it inflates around twice the size of a large pillow. Its also got a nice soft exterior. Makes a great back support for your bed. And if you've ever tried to get a girl to put a pillow under her stomach while laying face down on a bed this knee support pillow is ten times better. Its much bigger so your girls ass is that much higher and she won't sink into the pillow. And best of all its easy to rock her back and forth. I paid roughly $6 usd for the one I found, highly highly recommend grabbing one of these.
[URL]https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/zkgood-leg-elevation-pillow-knee-hip-relief-portable-support-ramp-cushion-leg-pillow-knee-hip-relief-portable-inflatable-support-ramp-cushion-leg-pillow-portable-inflatable-leg-elevation-pillow-for-home-outdoor-i2789918199-s13463223201.html?clickTrackInfo=query%253Ainflatable%252Bknee%252Bsupport%253Bnid%253A2789918199%253Bsrc%253ALazadaMainSrp%253Brn%253A521fda3806c0f643cd8908222e44fadd%253Bregion%253Aph%253Bsku%253A2789918199_PH%253Bprice%253A564.00%253Bclient%253Adesktop%253Bsupplier_id%253A1000021856%253Basc_category_id%253A22452%253Bitem_id%253A2789918199%253Bsku_id%253A13463223201%253Bshop_id%253A200790&search=1&spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.i40.271340e2RqIc5M[/URL]
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2736887]The girls I had were super clean.[/QUOTE]What does that mean?
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2736887]In royal Amsterdam hotel, the girls are required to present ID an vax card, no exceptions. I don't know about the other hotels.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2737421]In its current state I would not recommend royal amsterdam. Score birds and Central Park Tower don't do that nonsense and I'm sure the rest also don't check for this. They have taken it upon them selves to become an extension of the NBI and will securitize a valid vaccine card. Very disappointing as this was one of my favorite hotels. I guess this is why they are trying to sell the place?[/QUOTE]Had a couple of interesting experiences in the past few months in the NCR regarding what's being accepted.
One time a guard asked for a vax card in addition to my girl's ID, a complete surprise to me asking for an additional item. Her postal ID was her real valid ID, and she had someone else's vax card. They had two different names (and pics). The guard should have caught that but he didn't. He took her ID for the evening and handed her back her invalid vax card with the visitor's pass, barely having looked at either form of ID. On one hand thank goodness she had the vax card with her, and OTOH it was lucky she didn't get caught with her friend's vax card. I know she's vaccinated because she showed the card to me previously. In the room: Sweetie where is YOUR vax card? "Lost it. Borrowed Lyn's vax card". Whew!
The following day the same guard took the valid ID of a different girl without mentioning a vax card. A few days later the same girl was back, this time she forgot her ID at home, but had her real vax card in her purse. The guard denied entry: "A vaccine card is not a form of valid ID miss". I wanted to ask him: Then why did you ask my other girl for her vax card a few days ago?
Recently one of my regulars came. We had been out of touch with her for a year. But, things change over time, and she was in need again. I met her up the street and bought her some McDo. After, I asked to see her ID. "I have vax card only. But I used it before at your place. Its ok there". Can I see it? She showed it to me. It was the worst faked card I've ever seen. It was laminated, but cut around the edges with either a knife, or curved cuticle scissors; you could see the jagged edges all around it. The pic was not hers. The name was someone else. And so on. The guards at my place would sniff that out quickly and I told her so. "No its fine I used it there before". OK, we go give it a try. Sure enough the two guards almost snickered when they saw it. "Miss that is not you on this card. Get a valid ID". Off we went, both disappointed. BTW sweetie, where is your Brgy ID card and Postal ID we got you from last year? "I lost my both". Great! We got a tryke to the Brgy hall and asked for a replacement Brgy ID. P150, a quick picture of her on the wall, and 10 minutes later she had a new Brgy ID card. Sweetie, didn't you think about just getting a new Brgy ID? "I did not". Great! Went back to the condo and they accepted the new Brgy ID.
The good news is that everything has worked well in all other instances.
Cebu City drops the mask (masked board member: thanks for sending this link).
[URL]https://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-city-drops-mask-wearing-124300858.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2738465]Cebu City drops the mask (masked board member: thanks for sending this link).
[URL]https://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-city-drops-mask-wearing-124300858.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The Cebu City mayor has today deferred his decision of yesterday to lift the mask mandate! The face mask mandate is still in place.
See my post earlier today in the Cebu forum;.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2738539]The Cebu City mayor has today deferred his decision of yesterday to lift the mask mandate! The face mask mandate is still in place.[/QUOTE]Despite news reports yesterday that the decision to lift the face-mask mandate in Cebu City has been deferred, subsequent news reports state that it has [B]NOT[/B] been deferred!
For more info, see my post this morning in the Cebu forum;.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2738777]Despite news reports yesterday that the decision to lift the face-mask mandate. . . [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2738465]Cebu City drops the mask. . .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the continued updates. Do you think they'll change the restriction anytime soon that unvaccinated foreign nationals are not allowed? (As of a couple months ago the US State Department states the Philippine government did away with the quarantine option, and I've confirmed that with PAL). The quarantine option remains only for Filipino nationals. Is that other people's experiences also? Any thoughts on if the new government may relax things, please? Im afraid not, since it seems the rule changed right after he took office.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2739496]Thanks for the continued updates. Do you think they'll change the restriction anytime soon that unvaccinated foreign nationals are not allowed? (As of a couple months ago the US State Department states the Philippine government did away with the quarantine option, and I've confirmed that with PAL). The quarantine option remains only for Filipino nationals. Is that other people's experiences also? Any thoughts on if the new government may relax things, please? Im afraid not, since it seems the rule changed right after he took office.[/QUOTE]No, nothing. I was not aware that they did away with the Q for unvaxxed foreigners, which completely locks them out. I assume that PAL is always up to date, as they pay the financial price of allowing the wrong people to come to NAIA, by having to transport them right back to the point of origin.
My crystal ball is as clear as all of ours back when the pandemic was young:
[I]They should open up by September.[/I] Wrong. [I]Certainly they will open up by Christmas.[/I] Wrong. [I]Sure they got to open by March 2021.[/I] Nope. [I]They can't stay closed forever, they *need* us tourists. May for sure.[/I] Nope.
And so on. Pinoy thinking, including its caution, stubborn-ness, superstition, and dependency on what other pinoy think, will probably keep the joint in the quagmire MUCH longer than needed. Not that my crystal ball is any better than the gents thoughts (above). The good news is that CC has bucked the system, with several others about to do the same, so we see where it goes from here.
Crystal ball? None functioning so far.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2739517]No, nothing. I was not aware that they did away with the Q for unvaxxed foreigners, which completely locks them out. . .[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply, WC. It was actually something you published a couple months ago that got me looking into it.
I like your attitude regarding this whole program, and the newly rolled out technology; the only shots available to those of us in the US. You seem to have an open mind about it all. Im not opposed to something like the yellow fever vaccine where they take a part of the actual virus and put it in you, actually inoculating your ass, without some messenger RNA I know very little about.
I’ll be sure to update if I hear of any changes.
Thanks again!
Hey Gents.
I am planning a trip to the Phils in Oct / Nov, and hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu.
I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots.
Or are there? Am I missing something?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;2740218]Hey Gents.
I am planning a trip to the Phils in Oct / Nov, and hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu.
I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots.
Or are there? Am I missing something?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a link somewhere on this forum for Cebu. You might be able to find it in the search feature. I haven't seen much info over the years on Boracay, but I thank this is a little action. However, most info that I have read suggest that you bring your own. I took a girl to Boracy one time that I met in Manila, it was the second (and last) time I met her in Phil. I would like to go back to Boracy sometime, but would probably try to meet someone first in Manila, Cebu, etc.
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;2740218]Hey Gents.
I am planning a trip to the Phils in Oct / Nov, and hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu.
I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots.
Or are there? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]We are all missing something.
[QUOTE=George03;2740493]There is a link somewhere on this forum for Cebu. [/QUOTE]Its near the bottom, "Link to Cebu Forum", under User Blog. Clicking on it brings you to this page (pic #1), then clicking on that link gets you a broken link page (404 Not Found).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2740540]
Its near the bottom, "Link to Cebu Forum", under User Blog. Clicking on it brings you to this page (pic #1), then clicking on that link gets you a broken link page (404 Not Found).[/QUOTE]To TG: go to Asia / The Philippines-Cebu, though it's not super active. Many still post Cebu reports in the main Philippines forum. The Search page is your friend.
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;2740218]Hey Gents.
I am planning a trip to the Phils in Oct / Nov, and hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu.
I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots.
Or are there? Am I missing something?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Cebu thread is there.
Boracay is not popular. Trust me. Lived there for 5 years. The game you play there vs Manila or Cebu is different.
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;2740218]Hey Gents.
I am planning a trip to the Phils in Oct / Nov, and hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu.
I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots.
Or are there? Am I missing something?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are 2 user blogs for Cebu in this section, and it has its own section in the Asia index.
Hey gents,
Thanks for the info about Boracay.
And thanks for the location of the Cebu thread. Found it.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2740187]Thanks for your reply, WC. It was actually something you published a couple months ago that got me looking into it.
I like your attitude regarding this whole program, and the newly rolled out technology; the only shots available to those of us in the US. You seem to have an open mind about it all. Im not opposed to something like the yellow fever vaccine where they take a part of the actual virus and put it in you, actually inoculating your ass, without some messenger RNA I know very little about.[/QUOTE]Then use Sinovax or Sputnik Johnson and Johnson.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2740187]I'm not opposed to something like the yellow fever vaccine where they take a part of the actual virus and put it in you, actually inoculating your ass, without some messenger RNA I know very little about.[/QUOTE]The last I heard was Cebu international airport is admitting Covid-unvaccinated tourists, subject to 5 days' hotel quarantine. They are then free to travel within Cebu province only. Manila: still no entry or quarantine option for the unvaxed. I recently posted about yellow fever requirements on the Madagascar thread but fortunately it is not endemic to South-East Asia. However, like the Covid shots, adverse reactions, including death, do occur. Colombia waives yellow fever shots for the over-60s, suggesting vaccine reactions are age-dependent.
I took YF vaccine, aged a super-healthy 20, but it still laid me up in bed with a kind of 'flu' (bodily detoxification from the vaccine) for a few days. 'Viruses' have never been scientifically isolated and proven to transmit; they were concocted a century ago by the ruling elite for population control through toxic, 'prophylactic' (preventative) vaccines. Millions will die prematurely from the shots, or not be born at all through infertility, but the good news is that the Covid plandemic has alerted a critical mass of people to the true global agenda.
[URL]https://truthcomestolight.com/dr-tom-cowan-dr-andrew-kaufman-show-me-the-virus-answering-questions-about-variants-wuhan-lab-creations-vaccines-what-really-makes-us-sick/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2740726]The last I heard was Cebu international airport is admitting Covid-unvaccinated tourists, subject to 5 days' hotel quarantine. They are then free to travel within Cebu province only. Manila: still no entry or quarantine option for the unvaxed. I recently posted about yellow fever requirements on the Madagascar thread but fortunately it is not endemic to South-East Asia. However, like the Covid shots, adverse reactions, including death, do occur. Colombia waives yellow fever shots for the over-60s, suggesting vaccine reactions are age-dependent.
I took YF vaccine, aged a super-healthy 20, but it still laid me up in bed with a kind of 'flu' (bodily detoxification from the vaccine) for a few days. 'Viruses' have never been scientifically isolated and proven to transmit; they were concocted a century ago by the ruling elite for population control through toxic, 'prophylactic' (preventative) vaccines. Millions will die prematurely from the shots, or not be born at all through infertility, but the good news is that the Covid plandemic has alerted a critical mass of people to the true global agenda.
[URL]https://truthcomestolight.com/dr-tom-cowan-dr-andrew-kaufman-show-me-the-virus-answering-questions-about-variants-wuhan-lab-creations-vaccines-what-really-makes-us-sick/[/URL][/QUOTE]Isn't there some dark unoccupied corner of the rabbit hole you are in that you can go hide and stop with this nonsense here?
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;2740218]hoping to explore some new areas: probably Boracay and Cebu. I am surprised there are not any dedicated threads for those popular spots. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Popular tourist spot does not mean popular mongering spot.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2740770]Isn't there some dark unoccupied corner of the rabbit hole you are in that you can go hide and stop with this nonsense here?[/QUOTE]Yellow Fever Reactions: [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/yellowfever/vaccine/vaccine-reactions.html[/URL].
Philippines entry (US passport, ex Singapore, fully vax) [URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions/PHL?utm_source=passageiro_de_primeira&affiliateId=sherpa&language=en-US&originCountry=SGP&nationality=USA&departureDate=2022-09-07&returnDate=2022-09-14&tripType=roundTrip&transitType=noTransit&fullyVaccinated=true[/URL].
His information seems to be wrong there, whereas you give no information, just attack.
Here is the drill for arrival at Cebu [URL]https://mactancebuairport.com/covid-19-public-advisory?international[/URL].
He made legitimate points and asked legitimate questions. Have you an agenda? If so, what is it?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2740786]Yellow Fever Reactions: [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/yellowfever/vaccine/vaccine-reactions.html[/URL].
Philippines entry (US passport, ex Singapore, fully vax) [URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions/PHL?utm_source=passageiro_de_primeira&affiliateId=sherpa&language=en-US&originCountry=SGP&nationality=USA&departureDate=2022-09-07&returnDate=2022-09-14&tripType=roundTrip&transitType=noTransit&fullyVaccinated=true[/URL].
His information seems to be wrong there, whereas you give no information, just attack.
Here is the drill for arrival at Cebu [URL]https://mactancebuairport.com/covid-19-public-advisory?international[/URL].
He made legitimate points and asked legitimate questions. Have you an agenda? If so, what is it?[/QUOTE]You have to be pretty desperate to get into this country if you're willing to bend over for this be. S.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2740786]
He made legitimate points and asked legitimate questions. Have you an agenda? If so, what is it?[/QUOTE]Pedro, the world has moved on from Trevor2522. Population here is now 90% vaccinated (fact) and we, the vaccinated, cannot be 'un-vaccinated' regardless of the unvaxed nirvana that Trevor2522 enjoys.
There are clear processes for the unvaxed to enjoy the world, he's made a choice to go to Africa and presumably he will go to those threads. He may want to check the incidence of HIV on that continent.
Meanwhile, Let's just enjoy our mongering stories. For me it's still some 74 days until I again arrive in Manila. I have everything ready. I booked some super cheap internal flights, for less than $20 each to provincial cities which I have not previously visited.
[QUOTE=RacShack;2734500]And what about people that got the j-j one shot and done? They don't recognize that as being vaccinated?[/QUOTE]Apology RS, I just saw this 2-week post. Yes, I saw J-J single-shot on the approved list for entering Phils. However, if you have not been boostered (in addition to your initial J-J), you will need a pre-flight PCR test within 24 hours before your flight departure. If you had your initial shot (s), you can skip the PCR test if you get a booster also.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2740953]Apology RS, I just saw this 2-week post. Yes, I saw J-J single-shot on the approved list for entering Phils. However, if you have not been boostered (in addition to your initial J-J), you will need a pre-flight PCR test within 24 hours before your flight departure. If you had your initial shot (s), you can skip the PCR test if you get a booster also.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but already made my mind up and ended up in Thailand, landed yesterday and I must say it was amazing, zero jam up only passport was was asked for (never once mentioned) or asked for vaccination card, was in my taxi within minutes! Longest part was the walk from Emirates flight to customs, I sure hope Philippines joins in soon and stops all the nonsense already enough is enough, with the whole blocking off walking street and selling masks and shit! My one and done j at j shot with no booster and no test was good enough for Thailand With like I said zero jam up! Thanks for the response buddy! Have fun stay safe!
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2740786]Y
His information seems to be wrong there, whereas you give no information, just attack.
He made legitimate points and asked legitimate questions. Have you an agenda? If so, what is it?[/QUOTE]No amount of facts or data can change the mind of a fanatic. I am not going to waste time proving the world is round to a flat earther and that vaccines are safe and effective to people like Trevor. My agenda is fucking LBFMs. Thats the purpose of this board isn't it?
According to Reuters, some 72% of Pinoys too the clot shot. [URL]https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/philippines/[/URL] A pity other, more important shots are less in demand. I would question the quality of shots in such a shtt hole but that is just me. I get it most folk here just want a comfort blanket, to believe they can jet around the world, bang paupers and not get taken down.
Here are global COVID rates, the Philippines included [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL].
For my part, I find links, all links, interesting but not all links worth clicking through on. I know most people don't give a FK about Covid and never did, just as long as Faucci or some other weasel says they are safe.
Covid will be back this winter as we freeze our nuts off. They now have kids in Australian eating crickets.
Me? I am reduced to banging Brazilians and paying more than they are worth. I check on them and see they'd hooked in Brazil before. One price there, another here for the same mutton. Pinay meat, sadly, does not travel well.
Some good news for those people like myself who detest the wearing of face-masks! The mask mandate was lifted in Cebu province 3 months ago (only in the province, not in the tri-city areas of Cebu City, Mandaue City and Lapu-Lapu), then it was lifted in Cebu City 2 weeks ago, now it has been lifted across the whole country, but only in outdoor settings. A step in the right direction.
START:
THIRD ANNE PERALTA-MALONZO.
September 12,2022.
PRESIDENT Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr. Issued on Monday, Sept. 12,2022, an executive order (EO) allowing the voluntary wearing of face masks in outdoor settings across the country amid the coronavirus disease (Covid-19) pandemic.
Under EO 3, which is "effective immediately," wearing of masks is no longer mandatory in "open spaces and non-crowded outdoor areas with good ventilation. ".
Full story at.
[URL]https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1940619/cebu/local-news/marcos-makes-mask-wearing-outdoors-voluntary-rama-eyes-united-one-cebu-island-policy[/URL]
Still not clear, is J&J "fully vaccinated" or are they requiring "boosters?" The J&J doesn't have any actually FDA approved boosters. They're only EUA.
[QUOTE=ElmerFuddness;2743144]Still not clear, is J&J "fully vaccinated" or are they requiring "boosters?" The J&J doesn't have any actually FDA approved boosters. They're only EUA.[/QUOTE]Thought I explained this about 5 posts back in this thread (post #15415). Please send me a PM and I will further explain.
Well fellas. Checking flights. [URL]google.com[/URL]. First pic, I chose dates for a 6-week round-trip, MNL-LAX flight around April of next year. Results in the picture below. Flights below $1,000 US Dollars can be had.
Second pic, similar for November of this year, LAX-MNL. Round trip flights well under $1,000 USD.
Its time the fellas return. Me and Mdemde are tired of having to do all the vaxxing around here. The work never ends; its exhausting.
Good info but I don't do 37 hour flights with 2 stops. And I'm coming from LAX. December apparently sucks. $2400+. But I'll do it. Really looking forward to doing nothing for a month other than romancing sexy pinays.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2746340]Well fellas. Checking flights. [URL]google.com[/URL]. First pic, I chose dates for a 6-week round-trip, MNL-LAX flight around April of next year. Results in the picture below. Flights below $1,000 US Dollars can be had.
Second pic, similar for November of this year, LAX-MNL. Round trip flights well under $1,000 USD.
Its time the fellas return. Me and Mdemde are tired of having to do all the vaxxing around here. The work never ends; its exhausting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2746340]Well fellas. Checking flights. [URL]google.com[/URL]. First pic, I chose dates for a 6-week round-trip, MNL-LAX flight around April of next year. Results in the picture below. Flights below $1,000 US Dollars can be had.
Second pic, similar for November of this year, LAX-MNL. Round trip flights well under $1,000 USD.
Its time the fellas return. Me and Mdemde are tired of having to do all the vaxxing around here. The work never ends; its exhausting.[/QUOTE]In my Euro travels I have to get creative when I want to go somewhere I look for flying to a decoy location then catching a separate booked flight to actual destination.
Wondering if flights to Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, Tokyo would be in the mix.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2746523]In my Euro travels I have to get creative when I want to go somewhere I look for flying to a decoy location then catching a separate booked flight to actual destination.
Wondering if flights to Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, Tokyo would be in the mix.[/QUOTE]Flights to HK, Sing, BKK, or Tokyo. Originating where?
Here (pic) is a quick search from LAX to HK, for the month of November, the first few flights listed. Just under USD $1,000 to $1,300, round-trip.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2746523]In my Euro travels I have to get creative when I want to go somewhere I look for flying to a decoy location then catching a separate booked flight to actual destination.
Wondering if flights to Hong Kong, Singapore, Bangkok, Tokyo would be in the mix.[/QUOTE]Singapore Airlines flights to SG can be quite expensive. However, add on legs to other Asian capitals, MNL, BKK, PHN etc can be very cheep. Maybe worth investigating for your desired airports.
Note that last time I was in SG, transits were no longer allowed through Customs to spend the day in town.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2746617]Singapore Airlines flights to SG can be quite expensive. However, add on legs to other Asian capitals, MNL, BKK, PHN etc can be very cheep. Maybe worth investigating for your desired airports.
Note that last time I was in SG, transits were no longer allowed through Customs to spend the day in town.[/QUOTE]Maybe that was a Covid thing? ASFIK there is no restriction to enter Singapore even for the day if you are transiting (assuming your passport doesn't need a visa). You can transit, hit Geylang or a FS Spa while you wait.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2746704]Maybe that was a Covid thing? ASFIK there is no restriction to enter Singapore even for the day if you are transiting (assuming your passport doesn't need a visa). You can transit, hit Geylang or a FS Spa while you wait.[/QUOTE]Correct. My visit was when Changi had opened to transit passengers but under quite strict conditions.
Do you have any links to the new rules? If official, it's certainly good news as Singapore Air quite often have 10+ HR stopovers for me.
Thanks. G.
With regard to the chatter below, here are the rules for Singapore (ex Manila, vax, US passport). Lots of rules. I have posted this link many times but people refer to ask anonymous cuckolds on marginal websites what the rules are. First, obvious thing with Singapore is your paper would want to be right.
[URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions/SGP?affiliateId=sherpa&language=en-US&originCountry=PHL&nationality=USA&departureDate=2022-09-24&returnDate=2022-10-01&tripType=roundTrip&transitType=noTransit&fullyVaccinated=true[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2746340]
Its time the fellas return. Me and Mdemde are tired of having to do all the vaxxing around here. The work never ends; its exhausting.[/QUOTE]Yes, very much so. As a Senior, now pushing 70, I find the vaxxing work to be *extremely* exhausting.
My Philippine visa expired 2 months ago and I needed to exit the country. I went to Thailand and I was there for 3 weeks before I came back to the Philippines.
I planned to use the time in Thailand to have a complete break from vaxxing Pinays in Cebu, which would have given me a chance to recharge my batteries. Alas, I was press-ganged into vaxxing some of the local girls in Thailand.
I'm back in Cebu City now and being the conscientious and dedicated person that I am have resumed my vaxxing duties, but I really don't know how much longer I can hold out. As Westie said, it's time for some of the fellas to return.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2746797]I went to Thailand and I was there for 3 weeks before I came back to the Philippines.
I planned to use the time in Thailand to have a complete break from vaxxing Pinays in Cebu, which would have given me a chance to recharge my batteries. Alas, I was press-ganged into vaxxing some of the local girls in Thailand.[/QUOTE]You mean that I have to go all the way to Thailand in order to get a vacation from my vaxxing duties? F*ck! (Freudian slip).
As I pioneered the program during pandemic, I am sure BongBong will insist that I return.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2746746]With regard to the chatter below, here are the rules for Singapore (ex Manila, vax, US passport). Lots of rules. I have posted this link many times but people refer to ask anonymous cuckolds on marginal websites what the rules are. First, obvious thing with Singapore is your paper would want to be right.
[URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions/SGP?affiliateId=sherpa&language=en-US&originCountry=PHL&nationality=USA&departureDate=2022-09-24&returnDate=2022-10-01&tripType=roundTrip&transitType=noTransit&fullyVaccinated=true[/URL][/QUOTE]I live in Singapore. If you are vaccinated there are ZERO restrictions to enter. No test, no quarantine, hell you don't need to wear a mask on the flight here or anywhere in the city. You need to fill out an entry form online and upload your vax cert. Thats it. And if you don't have vax, you can enter with a PCR test. How much easier does it have to be?
Hi my fellow monger friends.
Is it true, that nowadays all girls are required to show ID and vaccination-proof to hotel / airbnb staff when you want to bring them to your room?
If so, how do you manage to handle that big stress? .
Thanks for responding in advance, I really appreciate it a lot!
[QUOTE=AntiFeminist;2747129]Hi my fellow monger friends.
Is it true, that nowadays all girls are required to show ID and vaccination-proof to hotel / airbnb staff when you want to bring them to your room?
If so, how do you manage to handle that big stress? .
Thanks for responding in advance, I really appreciate it a lot![/QUOTE]In the three hotels in which I stayed between AC & Makati only at one (a five star) did she have to actually show her vax cert on the first visit but it was not recorded. All the other times we entered she didn't need to show it. But had she just breezed through the first time then she would not have had to show it at all. Just relying on self reporting it seems.
I've been getting these at different times of day, running 3 days.
They used to be regularly around the same times each day, but for the last year or so they have occurred at random times throughout the day.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2747978]I've been getting these at different times of day, running 3 days.[/QUOTE]Get them all the time. Definitely not only 05:30 UTC. Copy work as you go as it can be a PITA if you have just typed out a long Post or Message and the Submit is rejected. Hardly end of the world issues though.
I'm guessing some type of server glitch as they don't last long.
Just wait 5 minutes and try again.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2748011]Get them all the time. Definitely not only 05:30 UTC. Copy work as you go as it can be a PITA if you have just typed out a long Post or Message and the Submit is rejected. Hardly end of the world issues though.
I'm guessing some type of server glitch as they don't last long.
Just wait 5 minutes and try again.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I've been waiting 30 minutes or several hours later. I thought maybe it was my VPN, so I switched VPN cities and still got the error. Then I turned it off and continue to get the error. Got to be a glitch.
Also my browser normally times out after about 45 seconds of trying to hit a website. Hitting the 'Preview' button on a typed post gets a fast response, but hitting the 'Upload Report' button is taking 3-4-5 minutes to post. Normally that would time out, but there is no timeout currently on the ISG when hitting 'Upload Report'. Strange.
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Edit: To make a liar out of me. Edited to tell you that just now when I hit 'Upload Report', it uploaded and displayed the report immediately. Its behaving like my ex-wife.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2748019]I've been waiting 30 minutes or several hours later. I thought maybe it was my VPN, so I switched VPN cities and still got the error. Then I turned it off and continue to get the error. Got to be a glitch.
Also my browser normally times out after about 45 seconds of trying to hit a website. Hitting the 'Preview' button on a typed post gets a fast response, but hitting the 'Upload Report' button is taking 3-4-5 minutes to post. Normally that would time out, but there is no timeout currently on the ISG when hitting 'Upload Report'. Strange.
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Edit: To make a liar out of me. Edited to tell you that just now when I hit 'Upload Report', it uploaded and displayed the report immediately. Its behaving like my ex-wife.[/QUOTE]It's not your VPN. I've had the same issues across laptops, phones etc with and without a VPN.
The refresh page icon does nothing but the GoBack does still work.
Sure it's a PiTA but not something I'm going to stress over.
I've found Delete & Escape works best with exwives.
Enjoy. G.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2748043]I've found Delete & Escape works best with exwives. Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]So *that* is what is meant by Ctrl-Alt-Delete if you need a re-set.
An article by an American woman who went on [URL]Seeking.com[/URL], seeking better men to date, and how she was quickly showered by gifts.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/used-dating-app-meet-millionaires-160239530.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2751707]An article by an American woman who went on [URL]Seeking.com[/URL], seeking better men to date, and how she was quickly showered by gifts.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/used-dating-app-meet-millionaires-160239530.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Move more to the centre of the bell curve and it's not hard to see why girls are turning their noses up at 1000 p Short Times.
Not many guys can afford Business Class flights and Chanel hand bags for an aspiring entrepreneur. However, thousands can, and do, spend hundreds on a phone or jewellery for a provincial farmer's daughter.
I noticed in both cases the guy gets punted the when he becomes inconvenient.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2751942]Move more to the centre of the bell curve and it's not hard to see why girls are turning their noses up at 1000 p Short Times. SNIP
I noticed in both cases the guy gets punted the when he becomes inconvenient.[/QUOTE]Concur. The author of the article appears mid-30's, slender, and nothing terribly special. Bland by standards here. Yet given where she is (RWML), she's apparently a catch. It just took a while for her to realize it. Rich white fellas fawn over her: "I would love to support you in your travel to France".
This is little different than less-wealthy gringos who fawn over their asian girl here, send them possibly more money than they should (causing them to skimp on other expenses) and more money than the girl is worth here (have known gents sending p50 k+ monthly in remit, who has never traveled outside his country). They consider the girl his GF (regardless the fact that she might have several such idiots on the hook).
The same way the RWM took the bland girl away from her po' American BF's, the less-rich gringo took a looker here out of the poon-selling market (usually, not always; sometimes when they have an emergency they will sell it on the cheap). Some of the fellas here don't like that some other guy is giving her more to stay home than she'd be making selling it.
Guys, how long has Air Asia been operating on domestic routes in the Philippines? Sure they are no frills but lots of dirt cheap fares.
I've just been looking at options for a provincial tour and $50 tickets MNL-Mindanao-Mnl abound. That's return. Mostly Air Asia with some Cebu Pacific. Same for DVO to elsewhere direct ie no wasting time in MNL or CEB.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2752936]Guys, how long has Air Asia been operating on domestic routes in the Philippines? Sure they are no frills but lots of dirt cheap fares.
I've just been looking at options for a provincial tour and $50 tickets MNL-Mindanao-Mnl abound. That's return. Mostly Air Asia with some Cebu Pacific. Same for DVO to elsewhere direct ie no wasting time in MNL or CEB.[/QUOTE]Air Asia Philippines has been there for years in a partnership with local investors. Used to be Zest.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines_AirAsia[/URL]
Grab a flight, it's as good as the others.
What!
Haha do I detect a heartbeat?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2753337]What!
Haha do I detect a heartbeat?[/QUOTE]This forum looks almost dead.
Am I the only one struggling to access the ISG Forums, PMs and Search pages? I'm getting repeated Nightly Backup error messages and unbelievably slow download speeds. I'm assuming the Admins know but not sure.
I'm not moderated. Would a newbie Regular Member or nawty moderated Senior quote and comment on my message so an Admin sees it. 👍.
Be good to know if this is a one off or ongoing problem.
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753348]Am I the only one struggling to access the ISG Forums, PMs and Search pages? I'm getting repeated Nightly Backup error messages and unbelievably slow download speeds. I'm assuming the Admins know but not sure.
SNIP [b]or nawty Senior[/b] quote and comment on my message so an Admin sees it. 👍.[/QUOTE]Ya, that's me!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753348]Be good to know if this is a one off or ongoing problem.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]You aren't the only one. Several days of timeouts, Nightly Backup error messages, slow bandwidth issues, or can't log in. Hasn't stopped me from #puckinapilipina.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753348]Am I the only one struggling to access the ISG Forums, PMs and Search pages? I'm getting repeated Nightly Backup error messages and unbelievably slow download speeds. I'm assuming the Admins know but not sure.
I'm not moderated. Would a newbie Regular Member or nawty moderated Senior quote and comment on my message so an Admin sees it. 👍.
Be good to know if this is a one off or ongoing problem.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Same here, totally down since several days.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2752936]Guys, how long has Air Asia been operating on domestic routes in the Philippines? Sure they are no frills but lots of dirt cheap fares.
I've just been looking at options for a provincial tour and $50 tickets MNL-Mindanao-Mnl abound. That's return. Mostly Air Asia with some Cebu Pacific. Same for DVO to elsewhere direct ie no wasting time in MNL or CEB.[/QUOTE]I flew Air Asia Mnl-Ceb round trip. Nice flight. They employ only good looking air hostesses. For one hour flight nothing to report. Their food sucks. It came with the ticket I purchased which included 20 kg. Checked in bag. Bundle.
Even cebu pacific has come back big time. Domestic flights are cheap and flights were full of locals.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2753349]Ya, that's me!
You aren't the only one. Several days of timeouts, Nightly Backup error messages, slow bandwidth issues, or can't log in. Hasn't stopped me from #puckinapilipina.[/QUOTE]And to make a liar out of myself. That was posted a few hours ago. The thing seems to be back up / running normally.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2753379]And to make a liar out of myself. That was posted a few hours ago. The thing seems to be back up / running normally.[/QUOTE]Yes, seems OK now.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2752936]Guys, how long has Air Asia been operating on domestic routes in the Philippines? Sure they are no frills but lots of dirt cheap fares.
[/QUOTE]Began operations 1995 as AsianSpirit, later Zest Air. Zest was grounded because of safety issues and had to "merge" with AirAsia to form what is now AirAsia Philippines to continue operating. I have always considered this airline a bit subpar, and it was on my no-fly list as long as they were operated by the sugary drink guy.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2753377]I flew Air Asia ...They employ only good looking air hostesses....[/QUOTE]Good to see they have their priorities right. Here in RWML, there were several court cases and $$$ fines because airlines were hiring only hot blondes. Virgin jumps to mind. One of the Middle East airlines even relocated a regional hub saying that they will hire who they want.
Win 1 for the metoo brigade.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753510]Good to see they have their priorities right. Here in RWML, there were several court cases and $$$ fines because airlines were hiring only hot blondes. Virgin jumps to mind. One of the Middle East airlines even relocated a regional hub saying that they will hire who they want.
Win 1 for the metoo brigade.[/QUOTE]Right on queue:
Paddle Your Own Kanoo: Singapore Airlines' Kebaya-Clad Flight Attendants Have "Distinctly Fetishistic, Orientalist Undertones" Says Leading Rights Charity.
[URL]https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/10/15/singapore-airlines-kebaya-clad-flight-attendants-have-distinctly-fetishistic-orientalist-undertones-says-leading-rights-charity/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753348]Am I the only one struggling to access the ISG Forums, PMs and Search pages? I'm getting repeated Nightly Backup error messages and unbelievably slow download speeds. I'm assuming the Admins know but not sure.
I'm not moderated. Would a newbie Regular Member or nawty moderated Senior quote and comment on my message so an Admin sees it. 👍.
Be good to know if this is a one off or ongoing problem.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]There is a section at the end of the main menu called Site Administration.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2753535]Right on queue:
Paddle Your Own Kanoo: Singapore Airlines' Kebaya-Clad Flight Attendants Have "Distinctly Fetishistic, Orientalist Undertones" Says Leading Rights Charity.
[URL]https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/10/15/singapore-airlines-kebaya-clad-flight-attendants-have-distinctly-fetishistic-orientalist-undertones-says-leading-rights-charity/[/URL][/QUOTE]I see the fucking women's libbers are at it again. The useless cunts. Nok Airlines out of BKK used to have the stewardess hotties in miniskirts but when I flew with them it was all old hags in normal flight attendant garb.
I was staying at City Garden Grand and hit people nearby link.
There are lots of girls trying to drum up business. Ended up having a girl over to hotel for an hour. She was about 35 but good body but small breasts.
Ended giving her 5000 p for a 1 HR message and full service. It was late so hotel called up before letting her up and called after she left.
[QUOTE=Phil65;2753694]I was staying at City Garden Grand and hit people nearby link.
There are lots of girls trying to drum up business. Ended up having a girl over to hotel for an hour. She was about 35 but good body but small breasts.
Ended giving her 5000 p for a 1 HR message and full service. It was late so hotel called up before letting her up and called after she left.[/QUOTE]The Idea with trying Telegram for finding FL is really good.
But 5 k for an 35 year old Hooker is just insane!
Heads-up for gents here end of the month. See pic. Monday Oct 31, Tuesday Nov 1, and Wednesday Nov 2 are the All Souls / All Saints (Halloween) holidays. Lazy five-day weekend. Gear up for girls asking money for flowers and foods to take to the cemetery.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2754242]Heads-up for gents here end of the month. See pic. Monday Oct 31, Tuesday Nov 1, and Wednesday Nov 2 are the All Souls / All Saints (Halloween) holidays. Lazy five-day weekend. Gear up for girls asking money for flowers and foods to take to the cemetery.[/QUOTE]Queue the government banter about hard working Filipino families can enjoy more time together while the BPO industry will be bankrolling the flowers by paying the staffs at double time. We rea;;why have little choice other than paying them to come to work those days.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2754397]Queue the government banter about hard working Filipino families can enjoy more time together while the BPO industry will be bankrolling the flowers by paying the staffs at double time. We rea;;why have little choice other than paying them to come to work those days.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Welcome to Asia. I think Indonesia has five New Year's Day bank holidays. All different days scattered throughout the year!!
and hello eArrival Card. It will replace the OHP on November 1st.
Link below.
October 21,2022.
PH to replace One Health Pass with eArrival Card for inbound travelers on Nov. 1.
MANILA, Philippines Starting November 1, an eArrival Card will be required for all inbound travelers arriving in the country instead of the One Health Pass (OHP), the Department of Health (DOH) said in an advisory on Friday.
DOH said this was done to "streamline arrival requirements for our travelers. ".
Arriving travelers should register for an eArrival Card within 72 hours prior to their departure via [URL]onehealthpass.com.ph[/URL] or by scanning a QR code that could be found on the DOH website.
In a statement on Friday, the Department of Tourism (DOT) also welcomed the development, saying the idea was proposed by the tourism agency "amidst numerous complaints from inbound travelers to the Philippines. ".
"Prior to the adoption of the new eARRIVAL CARD, travelers were required to register for the OHP a few days before their travel and accomplish the electronic Health Declaration Checklist (eHDC) on the day of departure," the DOT said.
"Compared to the previous OHP system, the eARRIVAL CARD also removes unnecessary information fields," the DOT also added.
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1683453/ph-to-replace-one-health-pass-with-earrival-card-for-inbound-travelers-on-nov-1[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2754785]"Compared to the previous OHP system, the eARRIVAL CARD also removes unnecessary information fields," the DOT also added.
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1683453/ph-to-replace-one-health-pass-with-earrival-card-for-inbound-travelers-on-nov-1[/URL][/QUOTE]Great news for the gents. No excuses now not to come help take the 'load' off me and Mdemde, and get a heapin'-helpin' of pinay hospitality.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2754790]Great news for the gents. No excuses now not to come help take the 'load' off me and Mdemde, and get a heapin'-helpin' of pinay hospitality.[/QUOTE]I am coming in a few days before November 1. Already got my One Health Pass QR code.
You can register for OHP before the register date.
For those traveling to the Philippines or planning on staying a long time found out a few tricks to make life a bit easier over here. Highly recommend you set up an account on Remitly, it can send money to yourself for cash pickup if you find your ATM card not working. When I arrived I bought a sim card and installed Gcash. I then uploaded my passport and got my account authenticated which allowed me to send money directly to my Gcash account for no fee. They give you a slightly lower exchange rate but that's acceptable. You can then used Gcash to purchase food deliveries from Food Panda. Also if you download the Grab taxi app you can send Gcash to your Grab account for a 15 peso fee. This allows you to pay for taxi's and trikes without having to have exact change (or leaving a big tip if the driver says he has no change). You can also download the JoyRide app for motorcycles in Cebu city and Manila, they too accept Gcash into their app and it goes directly to the driver after the ride.
Plane slides off the runway at Cebu airport. KAL A330. No casualties.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/korean-air-plane-overshoots-runway-081006915.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2754785]
"Compared to the previous OHP system, the eARRIVAL CARD also removes unnecessary information fields," the DOT also added.
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1683453/ph-to-replace-one-health-pass-with-earrival-card-for-inbound-travelers-on-nov-1[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2754790]Great news for the gents. No excuses now not to come help take the 'load' off me and Mdemde, and get a heapin'-helpin' of pinay hospitality.[/QUOTE]"A heapin'-helpin' of pinay hospitality. " Catchy. I like it.
I have noticed a definite increase in the last month or so of numbers of foreigners floating around Cebu City, a mix of male/female couples, groups of men and solo men, but very few solo ladies. I think a large proportion of the groups of men and the solo men must be here to help with the vaxxing programme for the local girls because there has been a slight but noticeable decrease to my vaxxing workload. It's a great help to me personally and to be welcomed, my vaxxing work here has been extremely exhausting.
But more help is needed. As Dr Westie says, with the easing of entry restrictions there are no excuses now to come and help take some of the workload.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2756307]
But more help is needed. As Dr Westie says, with the easing of entry restrictions there are no excuses now to come and help take some of the workload.[/QUOTE]I will be working to take the load off you gents. You have done a good job to bring this pandemic under control in Ph, you should be commended.
Currently here in the west I'm storing vaccines in preparation for deployment in November. I hope to make my pop-up mobile clinic a hit in the provinces.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2756393]I will be working to take the load off you gents. You have done a good job to bring this pandemic under control in Ph, you should be commended.
Currently here in the west I'm storing vaccines in preparation for deployment in November. I hope to make my pop-up mobile clinic a hit in the provinces.[/QUOTE]In my pre-vaxxing days, I called it: Westy's Roving Gynecology Clinic. It was a blessing.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2756307]But more help is needed. As Dr Westie says, with the easing of entry restrictions there are no excuses now to come and help take some of the workload.[/QUOTE]And speaking of. A quick peek at Google flights. Round trip, I entered dates of March-April, Manila / LAX. You can see prices from the pics. I see a low of $799 USD. An Asiana flight, 19 hours total with 1-stop, $943. And a PAL non-stop, $1,072. Those are good prices and the poonana is reasonable.
The requests for next week are now rolling in. Needs mentioned so far: Breads, coffee, spaghetti, macaroni salad, ice cream, jumbo RH, tandauy, empirador, candles, and fare for the fam to go to the cemetary. Seems everyone needs to stop by for a quickie in the next 3 days. If only I could keep up with that. In fact one week ago I mentioned to several of my regulars that they should schedule with me an extra session with me this week BEFORE this weekend. Only one of them did that. And now all of them are wanting to jump in the game at the last minute. I'm a bit worried that they will burn a hole in my Johnson this weekend. If I post any dick pics next week and things look worse than before, you will know the dangers of pinoy halloween are not ghouls or gobblins, they are from pinay holiday poonana over-usage.
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1686368/its-official-wearing-of-masks-indoors-outdoors-now-voluntary[/URL]
Besides being hot as fuck, this gal has some good stuff. . .
[URL]https://youtu.be/8EQ7MOhBTPE[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sam14;2758422]Besides being hot as fuck, this gal has some good stuff. . .
[URL]https://youtu.be/8EQ7MOhBTPE[/URL][/QUOTE]Great!
1) Unvaxxed travelers need only an Antigen test, and they can wait and get it at NAIA when they arrive.
2) Vaxxed travelers (with or without a booster) no longer need any kind of test.
3) Still need an e-ARRIVAL card (the previous One Health Pass; fairly easy without the covid test).
4) No masks are needed (except in public transportation, jeeps, busses, trykes, taxis).
You can cash in (load) your account at thousands of those electronic touch-pad kiosks. Available in malls, convenience stores, and so on. So if you don't have your own GC account and your girl does, instead of remitting it to her, you can use a kiosk machine. Just touch GCash, then enter her account number (which is her phone number), the amount you want to enter, and confirm the confirmation screen. Then you insert the peso notes one at a time until it reaches your total amount sending. The machine then prints you a receipt, with either a reference number or QR code.
Caution: you must deposit only bills (no coins), and the machine will not make change, so make sure to send her the total amount of some combination of peso notes in your pocket.
The machines are the same ones you can pay your utility bills with, and load your SIM card. If you use the 7-11 machine, you tell it how much you are sending and the GC phone number you are loading. The machine spits out a receipt with a bar code and the amount. You show the receipt at the counter, they scan its bar code, and you hand the clerk the money. Your girl will receive the amount minus the 1% 7-11 convenience fee, and you will get a fresh receipt from the clerk showing it.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2758422]Besides being hot as fuck, this gal has some good stuff. . .
[URL]https://youtu.be/8EQ7MOhBTPE[/URL][/QUOTE]Personally her voice makes my skin crawl but to each his own. She feeds everyone her opinion as fact. Everywhere you go in the Philippines now there is some idiot with a camera phone filming to post on Youtube. If you watch 10 videos on the same subject all will give different answers. I guess if you just visit it is a source of information but way to much opinionated BS to listen to for me.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2758525]Personally her voice makes my skin crawl but to each his own. She feeds everyone her opinion as fact. Everywhere you go in the Philippines now there is some idiot with a camera phone filming to post on Youtube. If you watch 10 videos on the same subject all will give different answers. I guess if you just visit it is a source of information but way to much opinionated BS to listen to for me.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind her sitting on my face as she's discussing the eArrival card. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sam14;2758422]Besides being hot as fuck, this gal has some good stuff. . .
[URL]https://youtu.be/8EQ7MOhBTPE[/URL][/QUOTE]Have you ever been with a filipina that talks this much?
I can find the info in about one minute without having to listen to her take 20 minutes to give the same info.
The current situation is not that hard to understand, countries have had arrival cards forever.
I am a fan of some of her videos. However all of her videos are too long! Sometimes she crams 5 minutes of info into a 15 minute video. Her Pekinese voice? It goes with the territory. If only we could think of a way to stifle that voice?
The Pea is pretty hot and very intelligent. After Sailor Jack's regular diet of so many ditzy bar girls she is something of a unicorn. And the Pea is clearly coached very well.
I recommend the video where she has a female attorney discuss legal issues in the Phils. It is 30 minutes long and is as entertaining as a trip to the dentist. But the legal info in this video is a must see for anyone who is doing more than just passing through.
WestCoast1; thanks for the GCash update.
Random photos from SJ Archives.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2758606]Have you ever been with a filipina that talks this much? . [/QUOTE]Haha. Yes. She's so Filipina.
I kind of miss the silliness. The same thing that drives you nuts sometimes is the same thing you like. Sometimes when they talk too much it's in the form of making an excuse; try to wear you down to where you finally go away, rather than actually doing their job.
One time I'd been tracking a package to Davao. I'd been to the post office a couple of times already regarding it. The tracking number showed step by step until it hit Manila. , then just fell off the face of the earth.
So the last time I asked to speak with the postmaster. Her desk is in the middle of a huge wide open room with all kinds of other desks and computers. She looks up the tracking number and says "Sir. Your package is not here". I said I know. Where is it please? It arrived in Manila two months ago. "we don't have our own plane sir. . Blah blah blah". I said so you mean it's sitting outside on the tarmac in manila? "No sir. They brought it inside". So where is it please? This whole thing goes round and round for a good half hour. Doesn't your computer link to Manila's computer? (Because Manila is like God you know, it's the center of the universe). "No sir, this computer does not link to manila". Well which one of these computers does link to Manila, please? This is a post office, your computers have to be linked. " Sir, that computer over there links to Manila. She points at the guy across the room. The guy looks over and jumps up. "Sir! Your package is here!" he bends over and it's on the floor next to his desk. Haha. I swear to God, that really happened.
Guys that have been there a long time have seen this a million times. They won't actually do their job until answering your line of questioning becomes more difficult than actually doing their job.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2758606] . . I can find the info in about one minute without having to listen to her take 20 minutes to give the same info.. [/QUOTE]I hear you amigo. But I'm glad my friend sent me that. Because at the time I posted that, the US Embassy hadn't caught up to speed and updated, nor had IATA Travel Center. PAL was up on it, as well as Fareboom. However by today Fareboom had backtracked to something conflicting like mandatory quarantine for the un-vaxxed.
I wouldn't bet on what the airline said, and especially not a YouTube channel. But I found a PH government publication. https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1187592
[QUOTE=Sam14;2758724]Haha. Yes. She's so Filipina.
I kind of miss the silliness. The same thing that drives you nuts sometimes is the same thing you like. Sometimes when they talk too much it's in the form of making an excuse; try to wear you down to where you finally go away, rather than actually doing their job.
One time I'd been tracking a package to Davao. I'd been to the post office a couple of times already regarding it. The tracking number showed step by step until it hit Manila. , then just fell off the face of the earth.
So the last time I asked to speak with the postmaster. Her desk is in the middle of a huge wide open room with all kinds of other desks and computers. She looks up the tracking number and says "Sir. Your package is not here". I said I know. Where is it please? It arrived in Manila two months ago. "we don't have our own plane sir. . Blah blah blah". I said so you mean it's sitting outside on the tarmac in manila? "No sir. They brought it inside". So where is it please? This whole thing goes round and round for a good half hour. Doesn't your computer link to Manila's computer? (Because Manila is like God you know, it's the center of the universe). "No sir, this computer does not link to manila". Well which one of these computers does link to Manila, please? This is a post office, your computers have to be linked. " Sir, that computer over there links to Manila. She points at the guy across the room. The guy looks over and jumps up. "Sir! Your package is here!" he bends over and it's on the floor next to his desk. Haha. I swear to God, that really happened.
Guys that have been there a long time have seen this a million times. They won't actually do their job until answering your line of questioning becomes more difficult than actually doing their job.
I hear you amigo. But I'm glad my friend sent me that. Because at the time I posted that, the US Embassy hadn't caught up to speed and updated, nor had IATA Travel Center. PAL was up on it, as well as Fareboom. However by today Fareboom had backtracked to something conflicting like mandatory quarantine for the un-vaxxed.
I wouldn't bet on what the airline said, and especially not a YouTube channel. But I found a PH government publication. https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1187592[/QUOTE]Just about everyone knows you don't use the Philippine post office.
I would say that was some silliness on your part. Actually quite low iq to expect the desired result.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2758739]Just about everyone knows you don't use the Philippine post office..[/QUOTE] just about everyone, but I was new. I lived in the Philippines for eight years, mostly Davao. I placed overseas orders once a month for years. Mostly vitamins and mostly through Phil Post, until the company got tired of refunding money and finally quit shipping to PH. (even though it wasn't guaranteed). Phil Post wasn't that bad for the most part, usually only took three weeks and I never actually lost an order. Not bad for US$25. Twice the company refunded my money but the package eventually arrived after three months. But that only happened in the end. It's usually pretty good, and a hell of a lot cheaper than FedEx. I'd use Phil Post before I used DHL where you can pay more and count on it getting stuck in customs.
But since then I discovered a company someone might be interested in if you're not already aware of it. Shipping Cart is partnered up with LBC. They offer US, UK, Australia, Korea, and Japan address. You have whatever you want sent to your account address. They repackage all your orders to save space, then ship it either air or sea cargo. Once it hits Manila it gets turned over to LBC. Super efficient and a good price.
I agree the Filipina Pea's delivery is annoying. I watch her occasionally for light entertainment. She's kinda hot but not THAT hot, insomuch that I would not watch just for that. If you want current data backed up by government references, watch Jennifer Terri. And yes it seems the unvaxxed will now be allowed in. I kind of enjoyed hanging out in PH with only non-conspiracy theorists but I guess this change will be good for the overall bar scene and probably attract more talent to the dance floors. Will be excited to check out the vibe when I arrive in December.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2758606]Have you ever been with a filipina that talks this much?
I can find the info in about one minute without having to listen to her take 20 minutes to give the same info.
The current situation is not that hard to understand, countries have had arrival cards forever.[/QUOTE]
Greetings fellow mongers. I'm starting to look at possible destinations for a spring 2023 trip. The Philippines are on my shortlist, but I have a question I haven't seen addressed here. I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action. I'm hoping those of you with experience in the Philippines will offer me your ASSessment on that.
I had booked a Thai airways ticket before covid. The flight was canceled. No refund was given. Called Thai airways in USA and was asked to contact Philippines office for refund. I contacted them. They asked me to send the credit card number and details to process. I sent it. I got the e mail saying it was processed but no refund. Waiting for two years now. When I was in Manila I tried to call them but it says office is closed. Contacted USA office again and they said refund was processed and contact Manila office. Sent no less than 6 e mails with copy to Thai airways in Bangkok, USA and Manila. Still waiting. On my next trip to Bangkok I will personally go to their office and demand.
All my other bookings during covid were promptly refunded.
Philippine efficiency is lacking.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2759523]I had booked a Thai airways ticket before covid. The flight was canceled. No refund was given.[/QUOTE]In the meantime, Thai has been in and out of Thai Chapter 11. This is not a PH issute, the Thai that has emerged is for the most part simply not honoring older liabilities. Suggest you write it off and book with a better airline in the future.
You can try to talk with your CC company, next time do that rather sooner than later.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2759494]I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action.[/QUOTE]It's certainly available but not from every girl. If it's a deal breaker, just be sure to ask before walking out. Mamasans know which girls do what and are happy to let you know.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2759494]Greetings fellow mongers. I'm starting to look at possible destinations for a spring 2023 trip. The Philippines are on my shortlist, but I have a question I haven't seen addressed here. I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action. I'm hoping those of you with experience in the Philippines will offer me your ASSessment on that.[/QUOTE]Some girls do and some girls don't My Ph action has been with normal girls that I had seen a few times. In all three cases, with their permissions and encouragement I introduced them to the new activity. One girl went on to demand it more often.
Many fiipina consider it off limits.
Any girl offering it up front should be profiled as a ladyboy.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2759553]In the meantime, Thai has been in and out of Thai Chapter 11. This is not a PH issute, the Thai that has emerged is for the most part simply not honoring older liabilities. Suggest you write it off and book with a better airline in the future.
You can try to talk with your CC company, next time do that rather sooner than later.[/QUOTE]I did not know they declared bankruptcy. It is only $216. I guess my account is somewhere in the last page Thai airways owing list in bankruptcy proceedings. Generally unless the airline starts making money and the creditors get paid and big creditors get paid first. And also only certain percentage of net profits can be used to pay creditors. I do not think credit card bank can do anything in this situation in the bankruptcy situation.
This explains why my refund was processed and not paid. My name should be in the creditor list somewhere. Better to forget about it.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2759494]I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action. I'm hoping those of you with experience in the Philippines will offer me your ASSessment on that.[/QUOTE]You'll never find it in Phils. I think they offer it in Thailand, try it there.
Joking. If you are into gogo bars, follow G's advice and ask the mama. Ask any FL. It might cost you $10 more, but well worth it (er, so I've heard).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2759629]Ask any FL. It might cost you $10 more, but well worth it (er, so I've heard).[/QUOTE]And if she doesn't, she will recommend a friend who does.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2759494]Greetings fellow mongers. I'm starting to look at possible destinations for a spring 2023 trip. The Philippines are on my shortlist, but I have a question I haven't seen addressed here. I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action. I'm hoping those of you with experience in the Philippines will offer me your ASSessment on that.[/QUOTE]It's much more popular in Kenya. In fact, my last babe in Mombasa was the one who brought it up. She said specifically, "I want it in the ass. " And Kenyan women are known for their yummy asses!
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2759862]It's much more popular in Kenya. In fact, my last babe in Mombasa was the one who brought it up. She said specifically, "I want it in the ass. " And Kenyan women are known for their yummy asses![/QUOTE]Can confirm that.
In Mombi I also was pressured to fuck asses, even when I'm not really into it.
I have noticed in Manila Malls last week that a lot of people are bringing their small cute dogs to the malls. Either walking them around or carrying them in their designer bags. It is disturbing to me in a country full of starvation that a little fashion dog is elevated above people. Just my opinion but can't help the dog owners seeing my disgust with them.
The other day at SM Clark Mall there was a lady walking her all white fluffy furry CAT on a leash in HyperMart. She noticed my disgust and quickly put the cat in its fashionable carry bag.
Wtf!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2760193]I have noticed in Manila Malls last week that a lot of people are bringing their small cute dogs to the malls. Either walking them around or carrying them in their designer bags. It is disturbing to me in a country full of starvation that a little fashion dog is elevated above people. Just my opinion but can't help the dog owners seeing my disgust with them.
The other day at SM Clark Mall there was a lady walking her all white fluffy furry CAT on a leash in HyperMart. She noticed my disgust and quickly put the cat in its fashionable carry bag.
Wtf![/QUOTE]I agree totally!
Philippinos bring these miniature dogs to the mall in a disgusting display of pretentious wealth in a third world country. Meanwhile there are near-death feral dogs (and people) roaming the streets.
If you are unable to go the mall without a little dog then you are just not ready to go out period. Grow up!
And have you noticed that these dogs do not act like normal dogs? Dogs bark and play and dogs are often hyperactive. I really think that these miniature dogs are drugged. Seriously. Look at their eyes sometimes.
It is disgusting.
Unrelated SJ Archives photo.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2759882]Can confirm that.
In Mombi I also was pressured to fuck asses, even when I'm not really into it.[/QUOTE]Why? Girls want to avoid pregnancy? Crazy fundamental religious way to not have sex before marriage?
A few areas have an abundance of anal, sometimes for the strangest reasons.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2760270]Why? Girls want to avoid pregnancy? Crazy fundamental religious way to not have sex before marriage?
A few areas have an abundance of anal, sometimes for the strangest reasons.[/QUOTE]That was certainly not the case with my Kenyan babe. We had plenty of bareback vaginal fucking also. She simply enjoyed it in the ass for variety. Most Kenyan women have a more casual attitude towards sex than typical Filipinas.
RG.
[QUOTE=SailorJack;2760201]I agree totally!
Philippinos bring these miniature dogs to the mall in a disgusting display of pretentious wealth in a third world country. Meanwhile there are near-death feral dogs (and people) roaming the streets.
If you are unable to go the mall without a little dog then you are just not ready to go out period. Grow up!
And have you noticed that these dogs do not act like normal dogs? Dogs bark and play and dogs are often hyperactive. I really think that these miniature dogs are drugged. Seriously. Look at their eyes sometimes.
It is disgusting.
Unrelated SJ Archives photo.[/QUOTE]It's far worse in the US and Europe. There they have animal insurance, animal birthday parties etc.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2760270]Why? Girls want to avoid pregnancy? Crazy fundamental religious way to not have sex before marriage?
A few areas have an abundance of anal, sometimes for the strangest reasons.[/QUOTE]So a number of years ago I read an article in a medical journal about anal sex. Apparently only about 20% of the population have the nerve endings in the right places so that they can enjoy anal sex. Since this is a genetic trait it makes sense that there would be clusters where the percentages in the local population were higher.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2760193]I have noticed in Manila Malls last week that a lot of people are bringing their small cute dogs to the malls. Either walking them around or carrying them in their designer bags. It is disturbing to me in a country full of starvation that a little fashion dog is elevated above people. Just my opinion but can't help the dog owners seeing my disgust with them.
The other day at SM Clark Mall there was a lady walking her all white fluffy furry CAT on a leash in HyperMart. She noticed my disgust and quickly put the cat in its fashionable carry bag.
Wtf![/QUOTE]How is that different than walking your dog in NY or LA or SF passing by homeless people? People using their dollars to exploit the same poverty for sexual gratification have no business judging locals for having a pet.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston;2760507]It's far worse in the US and Europe. There they have animal insurance, animal birthday parties etc.[/QUOTE]+1. It's an issue here too. As part of the recent "Mass Resignation" or whatever it's called, minimum wage workers at big box stores have decided that they aren't paid enough to clean up trails of dog shit from customers who insist on bringing Fido but make no effort at prevention or cleanup.
It's certainly not unusual to have to watch where you walk while INSIDE these buildings.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2760193]I have noticed in Manila Malls last week that a lot of people are bringing their small cute dogs to the malls. [/QUOTE]Its become a thing in the province malls here also. The dogs are all wearing a disposable diaper, and are usually being hand-carried (as opposed to walking on a leash). Who would bring their dog anywhere, in order to carry it? I saw it in my home country also.
From the Westy Archives. All the more reason to love Phils. I could still use some vaxxing-duty relief.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2760659] . . . Who would bring their dog anywhere, in order to carry it? . . .[/QUOTE]I got a theory. It's probably to get their barking dog fix.
One could literally spend their entire commute in a car without hearing a barking dog in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2760909]From the Westy Archives. All the more reason to love Phils. I could still use some vaxxing-duty relief.[/QUOTE]I have been advertising my mobile clinic on the provincial web. It has quickly become over-subscribed even before arriving. As usual with all clinics there are usually late cancellations so I am expecting to have last minute vacancies.
I am hoping to find one client that will be happy with the same vaccination a few times per day as recommended by Dr AP. This will assist her in maintaining efficacy while I am in country. From previous research I've found that any vaccination effects have a very short half-life once I have moved onto the next province. This will require assistance from others to maintain efficacy as I rarely go back.
I have also been in contact with a previous attendee of my clinic. She is keen for multiple boosters on this next visit to her area. She is a devout catholic girl and refuses to use contraception. God bless her.
Was at a party here in my country last weekend. One dirty westerner has the slimmest, sweetest filipina wife. Although I would not lust over his wife, I was thinking deeply about the heavy workload I will have when I land in Ph.
AP.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2760659]Its become a thing in the province malls here also. The dogs are all wearing a disposable diaper, and are usually being hand-carried (as opposed to walking on a leash). Who would bring their dog anywhere, in order to carry it? I saw it in my home country also.[/QUOTE]I didn't see any with diapers on. But many were walking them.
Before Covid upstairs in the gadget area of SM Clark Mall I saw a small white furry fashion dog on a leash squat down and take dump in the middle of the busy walk area. People were laughing, the owner was embarrassed and turning red. The owner wasn't prepared to pick up the shit either!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2760193]I have noticed in Manila Malls last week that a lot of people are bringing their small cute dogs to the malls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2760659]Its become a thing in the province malls here also. The dogs are all wearing a disposable diaper, and are usually being hand-carried (as opposed to walking on a leash). Who would bring their dog anywhere, in order to carry it? I saw it in my home country also.[/QUOTE]Same here in Cebu City in all the main malls, and I have also seen dogs in Park Mall in Mandaue City. But here, about half the dogs are on a leash, the other half are carried. They all wear diapers.
They also allow residents in the condo building in Cebu City where I am staying to keep dogs, they must wear diapers in all public areas of the building. Most days I see some of the dog owners getting in/getting out of the elevator, and also see them out in front of the condo building taking them for a walk.
About 2 weeks ago when returning to my condo unit late one night I noticed some dog mess in the hallway on my floor, near my unit! 3 separate deposits! Jesus H! I have been living in the same building for more than 3 years and this is the first time this has happened. I took some video of it on my phone and went back down to the lobby and showed the security guard, who said they would arrange to have it cleaned up, which they did. I told security the unit number that owned the dog and asked them to have a word with the owner. She lives a few doors down the hallway from me, I occasionally hear the dog barking, not loudly, and it rarely lasts for more than a minute or two. I have never seen any dog mess in any of the malls.
About 3 years ago I was in the main Ayala mall at the ground floor terraces Starbucks, and as I was leaving I noticed a Chinese family sitting at one of the large sofa-seats / table areas. The mother had her baby on the table and was changing its nappy! I shouted at them but they couldn't understand me, so I went over to the counter and asked the staff to throw them out. The mother must have twigged that something was wrong, because she quickly picked the baby up and left taking the rest of the family out with her.
Flew recently on CP. Five hot pinay FA's. Four were tall lookers, like these. The other one was a short looker. I was in the pre-board class and got to board the aircraft early with about a dozen others. Had the run of the plane for about 5 minutes before the coach class was allowed to board. Dropped my overhead and hit the head and returned to my seat. One of the taller FA's was standing next to my empty row and she struck up convo. Several minutes of mildly flirty conversation. What a lovely way to fly! As much as I dislike CP's policies and procedures at times, and as much as I think those games they play onboard during flights are silly, its hard to complain while the girl delivering those prizes up / down the aisle is smoking hot.
CP: Please forgive those things I said previously when I was thinking rationally. And keep 'up' the good work.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2763064]Flew recently on CP. Five hot pinay FA's. Four were tall lookers, like these. .[/QUOTE]CP girls are nice. I was siting in row 1 C, which in those days didn't have a divider. That was great as it gave uninterrupted flirt time during taxi, takeoff and landing while they say in their door station. I was managing to hack the quiz game and understand what answer was needed. Even with my hacking those pinays further down could still get their hands up faster than me.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2763076]I was managing to hack the quiz game and understand what answer was needed. Even with my hacking those pinays further down could still get their hands up faster than me.[/QUOTE]What was your method of hacking?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2760909]From the Westy Archives. All the more reason to love Phils. I could still use some vaxxing-duty relief.[/QUOTE]Some more of miss Play Full. Hey, who's snapping that picture? Enjoy.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2763313]What was your method of hacking?[/QUOTE]Nothing too hard. Sit in the front row and watch what she had in her other hand. Apply grade 1 level of inquisitive to the likely line of questioning.
Saw an oddity, twice. Once in Manila a few months back, and another recently here. Walking past a BDO in Manila near my place, about 7 am (bank opened 9 am), there was a woman standing at the ATM machine outside. I barely noticed her as I went out for coffee. An hour later upon my return she was still at the machine. A security guard works several businesses there and passes by each few minutes. It seemed odd that she was still working the machine. I stopped and sat down in a grassy area 10 m away and just watched her. She was sticking a debit or CC card into the machine, then looking at a note book, which had a written list of dozens of 4-digit PIN numbers. She would enter a PIN, and the machine would reject the PIN. She was going down the list, entering PINS. Each 2-3 PINS that failed, and she would cancel the attempt, retrieve the card, write something in the notebook, then attempt a different card (she had many cards). Finally one of the PINs was accepted with one of the cards. She wrote something in the notebook and withdrew p5000. Every time she got 5000. I watched her for more than 20 minutes. 90 minutes at an ATM is very unusual. She collected p5000 every 3-4 minutes. The guard would walk by and seem not to notice this oddity.
An hour or so later I went past the BDO again and the woman was gone. A day later she was right back working that machine at 8 am. I called the guard's attention to the lady. "Ya. She is here yesterday also". Did you report her to the bank management? "No". Bajesus! Later when the bank opened I reported the woman's activity to a bank manager. She said they would review the CCTV. I left the matter and didn't think of it anymore.
A few days ago I went to a bank here to hit the ATM. It was 8 am. I was on my way to get a coffee. There is a small, more private indoor lobby just before the closed / locked bank doors. A guard, half asleep, sits on a chair in the parking lot, watching that small windowed lobby / ATM area. There was a lady in front of me using the ATM. A pinoy walked in and took the spot behind me. After a short spell the woman finished her biz and departed the machine. I thought she'd walked outside as I approached the ATM. As I finished my business and departed the ATM, I noticed the woman was standing in front of the gent who was in turn behind me. She rushed past me to the vacant ATM, taking his spot. In her right hand she had a small clutch purse and what appeared a dozen ATM cards, and in her left hand was a sheet of paper with dozens of 4-digit, hand-written PIN numbers. She inserted a card into the machine and began entering PIN numbers. She would write things on the paper and insert new cards until one of the PINs connected, then she withdrew p5000. Just exactly like the lady in Manila.
I stepped back and watched her work the machine for about 5 minutes. She took a break and invited the other gent to use the machine. When he finished she went right back to work on the machine. Finally I walked off, had a coffee. 30 minutes later on the walk back to my place and right past the bank, there she was still working the ATM. I went back to the bank today and chat the manager, who said she would check the CCTV. That's where it sits.
It seems fairly nefarious, but maybe there's a legit reason to use an ATM like this? The guards at both banks saw it and didn't intervene. Anyone seen this before?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2765234]
It seems fairly nefarious, but maybe there's a legit reason to use an ATM like this? The guards at both banks saw it and didn't intervene. Anyone seen this before?[/QUOTE]I know that money lenders will take ATM cards as security on major loans. So that when an employee wages hit the account, the money lender will take their cut of the wages first before the workers gets what is left over. Do you think that instead of writing PINS she was updating the ledger of successful payments. They hit the cards early each day before the employees.
It is our company policy that if an employee can not produce their ATM card (ie it is being garnisheed) then the card is immediately cancelled by HR and a new card issued. The money lender has to make other means and ultimately all the lenders know not to accept \XYZ Inc\ cards.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2765271]
It is our company policy that if an employee can not produce their ATM card (ie it is being garnisheed) then the card is immediately cancelled by HR and a new card issued.[/QUOTE]That's a new one. I've no reason not to believe you but I've never heard of that before. So all employees must produce a ATM card before getting paid, every pay day? That must be a nightmare to administer. Then if they can't, they aren't paid until a new one is ordered and delivered? That's not an insignificant time. I'm sure you're doing this with good intent but I'd expect major push back about delayed payment and essentially "it's my wages, pay it where ever I tell you to. ".
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2765271]The money lender has to make other means and ultimately all the lenders know not to accept \XYZ Inc\ cards.[/QUOTE]This is a very common recruitment path for our hobby. Families with unpaid debts often have a pretty daughter offered up to fill the gap.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2765271]I know that money lenders will take ATM cards as security on major loans. So that when an employee wages hit the account, the money lender will take their cut of the wages first before the workers gets what is left over. Do you think that instead of writing PINS she was updating the ledger of successful payments. They hit the cards early each day before the employees.
It is our company policy that if an employee can not produce their ATM card (ie it is being garnisheed) then the card is immediately cancelled by HR and a new card issued. The money lender has to make other means and ultimately all the lenders know not to accept \XYZ Inc\ cards.[/QUOTE]You pay your employees thru an ATM card? You garnishee it back? I am confused.
BTW, this process of paying salary thru a debit card is not that unusual. Have seen it in Phils and in my country.
AP, are you saying that the lady I saw at the ATM machine might have been HR, with garnisheed debit cards? I recall both her and the lady in Manila at the ATM's had hodge-podges of different bank's cards, they were not from one bank. I would assume most companies using debit cards would use just one bank.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2759494]Greetings fellow mongers. I'm starting to look at possible destinations for a spring 2023 trip. The Philippines are on my shortlist, but I have a question I haven't seen addressed here. I'm an anal aficionado and wonder how generally receptive Filipina girls are to backdoor action. I'm hoping those of you with experience in the Philippines will offer me your ASSessment on that.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is one of the few countries in the world where I, a seasoned anal connoisseur, didn't score any anal. Combine that with the fact that I'm not attracted to most Asian women anyway, and the PI was a once in a lifetime experience for me. Thailand was better for getting "A-level" service, but even then anal on the menu is scant in Thailand compared to places like Brazil and Germany (or even Spain and Switzerland). I remember I brought the girl in the photo back to my Angeles City hotel room. Not only was her BBBJ technique subpar (a lot of Asian girls don't like that either), but when I gently touched her on the butt she said, "We won't be doing anything there". And so it went in the Philippines! My conclusion after nearly a month-long stay in that island nation? The Filipina girls mostly aren't down with giving up the booty hole! But, there is one huge way that they make up for that. They're more than down with going bareback than girls from any other top mongering destination in the world. I mean it's like the default setting LOL! Even if a Filipina girl starts out talking about a condom you can just say you don't want it and she immediately capitulates to "OK". Just be sure you know how to control your lust and pull out before you "nut" inside of all those Asian girls haha! So if bareback vaginal sex is your thing then the Philippines is in the place to be, and no other place comes close. But anal sex? Nope! Far more superior destinations for the latter. Take it from a cornholer who knows!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2765831]The Philippines is one of the few countries in the world where I, a seasoned anal connoisseur, didn't score any anal. SNIP I remember I brought the girl in the photo back to my Angeles City hotel room. Not only was her BBBJ technique subpar (a lot of Asian girls don't like that either), but when I gently touched her on the butt she said, "We won't be doing anything there".[/QUOTE]You didn't work that part out before leaving her bar?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2765831]They're more than down with going bareback than girls from any other top mongering destination in the world. I mean it's like the default setting LOL! Even if a Filipina girl starts out talking about a condom you can just say you don't want it and she immediately capitulates to "OK". [/QUOTE]I heard that.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2765831]But anal sex? Nope! Far more superior destinations for the latter. Take it from a cornholer who knows![/QUOTE]Crazy. The idea that a 5', 32 kg (70 lb) girl in Phils would *want* to do anal. Shake it off because it'll never happen. Preposterous.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2765895]You didn't work that part out before leaving her bar?
Crazy. The idea that a 5', 32 kg (70 lb) girl in Phils would *want* to do anal. Shake it off because it'll never happen. Preposterous.[/QUOTE]Oh come on Westie! A predictable response that I knew was coming. Few here can compete with you when it comes to mongering in the PI. You've had boots on the ground forever, built up an enviable stable and far-reaching contacts, etc. So a guy like you is going to find what you want. Not true for "tourist mongers" who are there for the first time with a limited amount of days in-country. Like I said, I was there for nearly a month (far longer than most tourist mongers spend on a trip) and had no luck (even though there a month had a small "applicant pool" due to no sexual attraction to 90% and on the move between three different cities which didn't help in building up prospects). I'm a seasoned, worldwide monger, so it's not like I had no clue about what I was doing. It's not like Brazil (or some other countries) where you can roll in there as a tourist, not having put in all this work up front that maybe you didn't have the time to do anyway, and you're cornholing on the very first day on the very first "date" LOL! A lot of it (most of it actually) has to do with the culture of the place. It's what Brazilians do, and what Filipinos don't do (as a general not absolute rule).
Hell, I remembered after I made my previous post on this that there were tiny pinays who were definitely interested in going with me, but who ultimately decided not to because they were afraid they would get hurt by this big, fat American dong hahaha! Size mattered. Both theirs and mine LOL! So yeah, why would some of them take me in the butt when they were afraid to even take me vaginally? Good point hehe! Look, you're the Philippines master-class monger, but let's not mislead the people here. Most of us won't be able to just show up and get anal sex left and right out of Filipina girls like we can from girls somewhere else in the world. To suggest otherwise would be the preposterous thing to do. And I'm clearly not the only one (here or elsewhere) who has said this. Plenty have, including right here in this very thread. I told my real world experience / story, nobody is going to gaslight me and tell me it isn't legit, and I'm a sticking to it! In the Philippines we can't all be you LOLOLOL!
Note: Anybody who has read my posts over the years knows that I'm a big proponent of asking for what you want [B]before[/B] you leave to go with a girl. It helps to prevent misunderstandings. In the specific situation that I wrote about in my previous post, when I left the bar with the girl anal sex actually wasn't at the top of my mind (if it was then yes I would have asked for it). Nor was it when I touched her butt in the room. That was just something I did as a part of the foreplay. But it was that touch that elicited her comment about no anal sex, which wasn't even something that I was actually asking her for anyway when I touched and kneaded those pinay butt cheeks (although she clearly took it to mean that). So, a Filipina said "no" to anal even when I wasn't asking her for it LOL! Was a sign of things to come. What I actually found stunning was that plenty of pinays seemed more ready and willing to let me cum inside of their pussies versus take it in the ass! One even said, "Let's go make a baby" (no condoms vaginal sex). Errr, "Come again"? LOLOLOL! Although I did go bareback vaginal with some pinays, I made sure the "big head" stayed in charge of the "little head" and did not sperm inside any of those young, pretty Filipina tutes.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2765831] They're more than down with going bareback than girls from any other top mongering destination in the world. I mean it's like the default setting LOL! Even if a Filipina girl starts out talking about a condom you can just say you don't want it and she immediately capitulates to "OK". Just be sure you know how to control your lust and pull out before you "nut" inside of all those Asian girls haha! So if bareback vaginal sex is your thing then the Philippines is in the place to be, and no other place comes close. But anal sex? Nope! Far more superior destinations for the latter. Take it from a cornholer who knows![/QUOTE]What do you mean by "pull out" Mssr. Cane? Don't you know that bareback-cum-in-pussy (BBCIP) is the default setting for mongers in the Philippines? Many regulars and expats have sired a bastard or two on the Pinay hookers. There is even a village in AC for such progeny.
Also, occasionally, you can find a tiny Pinay Valkyrie with enough courage to take Thor's meat hammer in the ass.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2765895]You didn't work that part out before leaving her bar?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2765916]Oh come on Westie! A predictable response that I knew was coming. Few here can compete with you when it comes to mongering in the PI. You've had boots on the ground forever, built up an enviable stable and far-reaching contacts, etc. So a guy like you is going to find what you want. Not true for "tourist mongers" who are there for the first time with a limited amount of days in-country. [/QUOTE]I'll add something that both of you hinted at but didn't spell out explicitly. First meetings can be a trial period for new girls to see how the guy acts and what she is comfortable with. Anal, deep throat, S&M all fall into this category. If the first night (s) shows that she isn't going to be slammed into and torn open during regular sessions, then it's not unusual for more risque activities to be on the menu for the following meetings.
Moral of the story is that if an activity is a deal breaker and time is of short supply, then ask around first to ensure a girl is comfortable with it and if there are any boundaries. If the first girl doesn't do it, then keep asking as others will.
For those in less of a hurry and with more flexible requirements, just have a good time and see how the options expand over time. It's not unknown for newbies to actually request training in new activities if she trusts the guy.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2765972]I'll add something that both of you hinted at but didn't spell out explicitly. First meetings can be a trial period for new girls to see how the guy acts and what she is comfortable with. Anal, deep throat, S&M all fall into this category. If the first night (s) shows that she isn't going to be slammed into and torn open during regular sessions, then it's not unusual for more risque activities to be on the menu for the following meetings.
Moral of the story is that if an activity is a deal breaker and time is of short supply, then ask around first to ensure a girl is comfortable with it and if there are any boundaries. If the first girl doesn't do it, then keep asking as others will.
For those in less of a hurry and with more flexible requirements, just have a good time and see how the options expand over time. It's not unknown for newbies to actually request training in new activities if she trusts the guy.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]My approach in the Philippines (and Thailand too) was different than usual for me given that I'm not attracted to most Asian women (if I see 100 I might give only 10 a second look and end up trying to fuck only 2 or 3). So the most paramount thing for me then was just to find somebody who gave me a boner LOL! If and when I achieved that then I was prepared to be quite flexible in terms of what services I might seek and ultimately receive. I mean I didn't know if and when I might find the next "looker" per my personal optics scale. And having done my research, I knew that getting bareback was going to be pretty easy while procuring anal would be much harder than in my favorite destinations of Brazil, Germany, and Spain (since fallen out of favor due to lack of value for money spent).
I will say that if one is more attracted to Asian women than I am, then their odds of getting anal are going to be far better because their "applicant pool" is going to be much, much larger than mine. But still the "societal lean" in the PI is away from anal versus towards it (or even neutral). Another thing that I will say is that I went to a club in Manila called "Kojax" that had the hottest collection of Asian women under one roof that I have ever seen in my entire life! I mean there were some really hot Asian girls in there who kept me stiff (and PlanB wasn't bad either) LOL! Lastly, I note that easily one of the top 10 girls I have ever fucked out of 100's was a Thai Amerasian / Eurasian girl I found in Phuket (my Thai "Jennifer Anniston" I call her). So there are some Asian girls out there who absolutely do it for me, but I am extremely picky when it comes to Asian girls. That's why I was so damn impressed with Kojax at the time. The joint was just loaded with top talent per my "prurient interests" haha!
Why I love social media translators.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2765964]What do you mean by "pull out" Mssr. Cane? Don't you know that bareback-cum-in-pussy (BBCIP) is the default setting for mongers in the Philippines? Many regulars and expats have sired a bastard or two on the Pinay hookers. There is even a village in AC for such progeny.
Also, occasionally, you can find a tiny Pinay Valkyrie with enough courage to take Thor's meat hammer in the ass.[/QUOTE]Yes I know a lot of PI mongers do BBCIP. I'm pretty sure I saw some of their "legacies" in Angeles City too! Not a club I care to join hehehe!
I am constantly amazed at the GEMS that can be found here in this fine country.
The difference between being in / out of the country is chalk and cheese. While from outside the country in preparation for a trip you may have 10-20 'hot' leads most of which will expire before you arrive.
Just looking at pinalove site now, I have over 1,000 Filipinas whom have 'liked' my profile so I don't even follow those up. I do a search each day and just message the top 5 and say I'm sitting here in XYZ province.
So one of the hits today was busy in the morning selling snacks for her family business so we arranged a coffee meetup at 3 pm. We chatted and she ordered some cold drink that I'm sure she has never had before. She did a tour of the hotel and it was kind of obvious she had never been in a 4 star or maybe any hotel before. So sex has not ever been mentioned in any of this. We toured the lobby, the lifts, the gym area. Holding my hand at various points she offered to give me a massage if I was tired from work.
Eventually in the room, the tour continued, the hot water jug, the free coffee satchels. Etc. All of this was duly chronicled by her for later posting to tiktok.
Then later I suggested the massage would be a nice idea. She promptly searched Youtube for Relaxation Massage. I got naked and lay on the bed to which she said "why ae you naked?" I said to avoid oils. She gave a good massage actually. Eventually she collapsed citing exhaustion and lay on the bed. I suggested I could return the favour with a lip massage. I gave her some soft kisses and pretty soon her mouth was open and her tongue was active. Without promoting she's lifting he shirt and exposing her breasts for my pleasure and hers. I just continued allowing her to get comfortable and open up. She was adamant that there would be no sex as her pussy was not clean or washed. OK, no worries. Before long she's giving me a nice BBBJ half way through which she is undoing her pants and removing her gear. At the completion of the BJ she just hops on top and starts fucking me. After the deed she is clearly super affectionate and clingy. She offer to return after her food selling tomorrow and do it all again.
I am paying these girls P2 k plus P200 for transport / food. They are enthusiastic repeats at this price.
Ack to the pinalove, there are heaps of girls punting for 'fare' or bidding P5 k single pops. These are easily just ignored.
The P2 k price can easily be reduced if they stay multiple nights.
Just get yourselves into town and the oyster is your world.
P.S. My hotel allows many website but sadly ISG is a site that is being blocked though their content filter. How rude!
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2768076]Then later I suggested the massage would be a nice idea. She promptly searched Youtube for Relaxation Massage. I got naked and lay on the bed to which she said "why ae you naked?" I said to avoid oils. She gave a good massage actually. Eventually she collapsed citing exhaustion and lay on the bed. I suggested I could return the favour with a lip massage. I gave her some soft kisses and pretty soon her mouth was open and her tongue was active. Without promoting she's lifting he shirt and exposing her breasts for my pleasure and hers. I just continued allowing her to get comfortable and open up. She was adamant that there would be no sex as her pussy was not clean or washed. OK, no worries. Before long she's giving me a nice BBBJ half way through which she is undoing her pants and removing her gear. At the completion of the BJ she just hops on top and starts fucking me. After the deed she is clearly super affectionate and clingy. She offer to return after her food selling tomorrow and do it all again.
Just get yourselves into town and the oyster is your world.[/QUOTE]Great report!
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2768076]P.S. My hotel allows many website but sadly ISG is a site that is being blocked though their content filter. How rude![/QUOTE]VPN not only unblocks these obstructions, it hides your activity from the hotel.
Related story* regarding your hotel, or your apartment / condo Internet service. The hotel (and their ISP) collects all traffic information. Hotels (and possibly ISP's) may routinely provide it en masse to law enforcement. In a hotel, or anywhere there is a shared router / switch, there is no way for them to tell that YOU are the one who visited this or that website (usually), the data is still collected. In situations where the router is not shared (ie, your apartment or condo unit) and you have your own router, it could be determined that you are the one who pushed that traffic thru the router.
* Early in the pandemic at my hotel (a major chain in Phils) I had trouble connecting my laptop to the router. It had worked previously. The hotel sent an IT guy to look at the sitchwayshun. He brought his laptop and got it connected the shared router in the hall. Then he messed around on my laptop and after a few minutes he got it connected to the router. We sat there chewing the fat for a few minutes when I noticed that on his screen a list of websites ad IP addresses kept popping up. Google, facebook, youtube, and so on. I entered '[URL]yahoo.com[/URL]' on my browser and hit enter, and '[URL]yahoo.com[/URL]' and IP addresses showed up on his laptop. I inquired as to why. "We collect all traffic". And do what with it? "Send it to headquarters and the police". The police? "Every week po. Its required". Great!
If you live in a condo or other place with your own (or the unit owner's) modem / router, the ISP collects all of that (usually to sell it). Get a VPN. In addition, change your DNS settings to 1. 1. 1. 1 (cloudflare) or 8. 8. 8. 8 (google's DNS lookup service). Either is free and bypasses the ISP's DNS system, preventing them from having your website metadata.
3 pm Update.
It's been a busy morning doing some actual work in between checking the various apps to see what my forecast are for tonight. In summary, the in the mix at the moment.
Girl #1 is a repeat from yesterday that wants more relationship than fun. All day banter about this so I will see if she cracks by 4 and gives over that pussy again without commitment. So so so nice that I am prepared to write her off if she wants any 'commitment' but also prepared to develop my pinay psych course if I can get into her head that it s just for fun ok.
Girl #2 finishing work at 5 pm from her call center job. Supposedly coming after. I do prefer girls with real jobs but the risk is they message at the end of their shift "too tired sorry".
Girl #3 matched with me on Tinder when I was in the province but I couldn't catch her. I deleted that Tinder profile and now this morning she's within a KM of where I am now on my new profile. Coincidence or destiny. She has had legitimate locations and pics each time. Says she's meeting me at 6 pm for dinner. Let's see as I have a feeling some guy (one of you here) flew her with them and now she's being moved on.
Girl #4 that stood me up last night as I was walking to the rendezvous point with some lame excuse about her mom being sick. But also no money request. Says she will come 'later'. Nothing more specific than that. So she's a backup if all else fails, if she even ready to travel here. No investment on my part.
Girl #5 is a shy one that wants to bring her auntie for a coffee / shake also at 5 pm. Who really knows where that will lead or if they arrive. No investment on my part.
Girls 6 & 7, two friends have offered P5 k for both overnight. I feel they are just playing for a better price and are busy bidding up with other players here in the market at the moment. Not investing in this one says they will be here at 6 pm also. No investment on my part.
Girl #8 is a repeat from yesterday that wants to stay overnight this time. She's nice, tight but not so bright. That annoys me a bit too much. She does bring her own sex toys in the P2 k overnight price. And where has she been all day before she messages me? I haven't committed to her yet will wait until 7:30 to see if I need her backup. Have to keep her on the hook until I catch another.
Girls 9-10 are random ones that float around on tinder. I don't commit a time to them, they don't commit. I guess these ones are searching for more.
Probably these are not as locked in with the girls as my timing suggests. While I may have some structure to what I'm planning they are more likely just to run with whomever messages them at the top of the hour. I try and have them staggered so I can more easily bring a girl forward than juggling them all at once. In between those times I will be catching up with other mates, having dinner and maybe some work. I expect half of these will fall over before they even say they have left home. At any point that I commit to one of them then I unfortunately have to burn off the later options with "Sorry, raincheck, my boss just asked me to graveyard shift".
There is a growing number of horny foreigners here also that I saw walking around the mall, phone in hand.
I'd mention a few things that I'd need your help on.
1. I've never been to Phillipines before so itd be my first time, and reading the various comments and posts, I think it would be a great destination to find a lot of women.
2. I'm of indian origin, so I'm not sure what the response will be. I've seen reports that old, fat white guys keep on getting unlimited connections from women on apps etc which surprises me. I'm not that old or that fat, but I'm brown so I'm not sure what's available for me.
3. I'm not interested to get into bars, pay bar fines, etc and get into a very clubs etc or a commercial setup to hire someone. It does not appeal to me at all.
4. Can anyone advise on what the basic strategy is to land some women when I'm there? Which apps are the best? Can we just meet random women, on the street, malls etc and how receptive they are?
5. How is the massage scene in Phillipines? Is it like Thailand in terms of normal oil massage (even if not erotic)? If yes, where can I find those?
6. Which cities are the best for me to travel to? I think Angeles is like Pattaya so I'd rather avoid that.
Basically looking for a starter guide if possible so I can stay out of trouble. Thanks all.
[QUOTE=FeedSubject;2768283]I'd mention a few things that I'd need your help on.
2. I'm of indian origin, so I'm not sure what the response will be. I've seen reports that old, fat white guys keep on getting unlimited connections from women on apps etc which surprises me. I'm not that old or that fat, but I'm brown so I'm not sure what's available for me..[/QUOTE]Old fat white guys usually have thick wallets; this is what attracts Pinays.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2768239]3 pm Update.
It's been a busy morning doing some actual work in between checking the various apps to see what my forecast are for tonight. In summary, the in the mix at the moment.
/snip/
There is a growing number of horny foreigners here also that I saw walking around the mall, phone in hand.[/QUOTE]Girl #1 would not budge so no action from her.
Girl #2 did finish work an hour late and did message me immediately. Met her for dinner and drinks. After dinner and still at the resto I asked what time she would be starting work tomorrow. Se said that she starts early and will need to leave my place by 4 am. Haha, she invited herself.
The rest were burned off or burned me off.
[QUOTE=FeedSubject;2768283]I'd mention a few things that I'd need your help on.
1. I've never been to Phillipines before so itd be my first time, and reading the various comments and posts, I think it would be a great destination to find a lot of women.
2. I'm of indian origin, so I'm not sure what the response will be. I've seen reports that old, fat white guys keep on getting unlimited connections from women on apps etc which surprises me. I'm not that old or that fat, but I'm brown so I'm not sure what's available for me.
3. I'm not interested to get into bars, pay bar fines, etc and get into a very clubs etc or a commercial setup to hire someone. It does not appeal to me at all.
4. Can anyone advise on what the basic strategy is to land some women when I'm there? Which apps are the best? Can we just meet random women, on the street, malls etc and how receptive they are?
5. How is the massage scene in Phillipines? Is it like Thailand in terms of normal oil massage (even if not erotic)? If yes, where can I find those?
6. Which cities are the best for me to travel to? I think Angeles is like Pattaya so I'd rather avoid that.
Basically looking for a starter guide if possible so I can stay out of trouble. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]Philippines is a little trickier than Thailand as the scene is not as overtly in your face. On your first trip, it might be better to go and get hookers from bars. Just treat the girls with respect and like humans and you should be fine. Many of your countrymen treat hookers like shit, and their reputation precedes them, so take that on board. As Aussiegaigin has pointed out, the only thing that matters is the size of your wallet. Take more money than you think you need and don't be a cheap Charlie. There is no issue which money can't fix.
Massage in the Philippines is shit, so just avoid that.
You mention that you don't like bars, but that's really where newbies start. Lots of bars in Burgos or AC and the barfine and tip process there is simple. Save the online dating site action for subsequent trips as you need to understand the culture and Filipina behavior first.
[QUOTE=FeedSubject;2768283]I'd mention a few things that I'd need your help on.
1. I've never been to Phillipines before so itd be my first time, and reading the various comments and posts, I think it would be a great destination to find a lot of women.
2. I'm of indian origin, so I'm not sure what the response will be. I've seen reports that old, fat white guys keep on getting unlimited connections from women on apps etc which surprises me. I'm not that old or that fat, but I'm brown so I'm not sure what's available for me.
3. I'm not interested to get into bars, pay bar fines, etc and get into a very clubs etc or a commercial setup to hire someone. It does not appeal to me at all.
4. Can anyone advise on what the basic strategy is to land some women when I'm there? Which apps are the best? Can we just meet random women, on the street, malls etc and how receptive they are?
5. How is the massage scene in Phillipines? Is it like Thailand in terms of normal oil massage (even if not erotic)? If yes, where can I find those?
6. Which cities are the best for me to travel to? I think Angeles is like Pattaya so I'd rather avoid that.
Basically looking for a starter guide if possible so I can stay out of trouble. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you are looking for free pussy. You don't want to pay for pussy.
This is the wrong site for you.
My advice is to go elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2768470]Sounds to me like you are looking for free pussy. You don't want to pay for pussy.
This is the wrong site for you.
My advice is to go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]On second thought. Make friends with a monger or buy him a drink and maybe he can negotiate a free seconds for you included with his barfine. There is your freebie.
[QUOTE=FeedSubject;2768283]I'd mention a few things that I'd need your help on.
1. I think it would be a great destination to find a lot of women.
2. I'm of indian origin, so I'm not sure what the response will be.
3. I'm not interested to get into bars, pay bar fines, etc.
4. Can we just meet random women, on the street, malls etc and how receptive they are?
5. How is the massage scene in Phillipines? Is it like Thailand?
6. Which cities are the best for me to travel to?
Basically looking for a starter guide if possible so I can stay out of trouble. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]1. It is.
2. Girls have lots of negative sentiment towards Indians. Mostly for being cheap and / or changing the scope of a preagreed deal. It's up to you to prove to them that these do not apply to you.
3. Many guys have moved away from barfines. They are certainly not the only way to get laid.
4. Yes. Normal Pinas are very outgoing and welcoming. Conversion rates to more than talking depends on how comfortable they feel and how attractive the guy is. You need to have some Game beyond asking "How much for a BJ?
Be aware that Freebies can easily end up costing more than a commercial arrangement. A lot more.
5. Similar but not the same. Everything from high quality, purely therapeutic to including sex. They are all over town.
6. Depends on what you want. Generally speaking: AC has the greatest concentration of girls for hire; Manila has the greatest number and most beautiful girls; Cebu has a thriving online scene; Provinces have fresher girls in a more relaxing atmosphere.
This Forum is the starter guide. Just read back a few months and there is a lot of information.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2768470]Sounds to me like you are looking for free pussy. You don't want to pay for pussy.[/QUOTE]Typical paths to a Freebie:
1. Buy one get one free after a barfine enjoys the evening.
2. A part timer who sees a payout when the guy goes home vs every hour.
3. Making bullshit promises to a good girl so that she expects a long term commitment and ongoing relationship.
1 is great fun but a rarety unless you are relatively young or good looking. Required the upfront investment and that investment has no guarantees.
2 very rarely works out cheaper than PPM once meals, gifts, sick uncles etc are factored in.
3 is incredibly dangerous once brothers and uncles find out. Karma is often very real.
Moral of the story is that it is so much cheaper and less heart ache to keep everything commercial.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2768470]Sounds to me like you are looking for free pussy. You don't want to pay for pussy.
This is the wrong site for you.
My advice is to go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I did not mention this anywhere so how did you get to this conclusion? All I said that I wasn't interested in the bars option.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2768484]Typical paths to a Freebie:
1. Buy one get one free after a barfine enjoys the evening.
2. A part timer who sees a payout when the guy goes home vs every hour.
3. Making bullshit promises to a good girl so that she expects a long term commitment and ongoing relationship.
1 is great fun but a rarety unless you are relatively young or good looking. Required the upfront investment and that investment has no guarantees.
2 very rarely works out cheaper than PPM once meals, gifts, sick uncles etc are factored in.
3 is incredibly dangerous once brothers and uncles find out. Karma is often very real.
Moral of the story is that it is so much cheaper and less heart ache to keep everything commercial.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thank you and I'm after commercial options but don't know where to start. E. g. Which apps do I need? How do you guys know which girls to approach in real life for this purpose?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2768449]Many of your countrymen treat hookers like shit, and their reputation precedes them, so take that on board. [/QUOTE]Damn! I thought I was on the Colombian thread when I was reading this because I am usually there. Last time I was in Angeles (5 years ago) I had two different girls tell me that Indians take the girl to the hotel room and then there are 2-3 other Indian guys waiting in the room trying to sex her all for the one barfine price. I would love for some Indians to try that crap in Colombia. Let's just say you would happy if a hospital stay was the only thing that happened to you. Please visit Colombia soon.
[QUOTE=FeedSubject;2768538]Thank you and I'm after commercial options but don't know where to start. E. g. Which apps do I need? How do you guys know which girls to approach in real life for this purpose?[/QUOTE]You need WhatsApp for communication and Seeking Arrangement or IG for higher end girls, Tinder for all standards, Filipino Cupid, PinaLove for low end. Many positive reports about Date In Asia too but I was banned so many times I can't verify.
Online, anyone is fair game. Walking down the streets, just be polite and see where discussions go. You said you don't like bars but remember all red light areas have street walkers as well. Perhaps an option for you.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2768611]Damn! I thought I was on the Colombian thread when I was reading this because I am usually there. Last time I was in Angeles (5 years ago) I had two different girls tell me that Indians take the girl to the hotel room and then there are 2-3 other Indian guys waiting in the room trying to sex her all for the one barfine price. I would love for some Indians to try that crap in Colombia. Let's just say you would happy if a hospital stay was the only thing that happened to you. Please visit Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]Many of the Israelis used to do the same thing in Cartagena.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2768611]Damn! I thought I was on the Colombian thread when I was reading this because I am usually there. Last time I was in Angeles (5 years ago) I had two different girls tell me that Indians take the girl to the hotel room and then there are 2-3 other Indian guys waiting in the room trying to sex her all for the one barfine price. I would love for some Indians to try that crap in Colombia. Let's just say you would happy if a hospital stay was the only thing that happened to you. Please visit Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw a group of guys from that region take advantage like that of a young filipina at Rothman hotel in Malate a few years ago. I saw them from the hallway when they were done with her. The poor thing was traumatized. Very tragic and wrong. Karma to the fucking people that did that to her.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2768611]Damn! I thought I was on the Colombian thread when I was reading this because I am usually there. Last time I was in Angeles (5 years ago) I had two different girls tell me that Indians take the girl to the hotel room and then there are 2-3 other Indian guys waiting in the room trying to sex her all for the one barfine price. I would love for some Indians to try that crap in Colombia. Let's just say you would happy if a hospital stay was the only thing that happened to you. Please visit Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]The other guys are not just waiting for a root out in the open. The first guy starts fucking the girl. In the middle of the action, other guys start appearing from under the bed, inside the closet, and behind the curtains with their Kamagra induced boners at the ready. The girl is at a severe disadvantage trying to renegotiate naked with a stiff cock rammed up inside her.
Ok but how about this. You and your buddy barfine two girls from a girlie bar. You go to the same hotel room and tag team them. Some switching here and there. Everyone wins. I've done this in my private life quite a few times (unpaid), but never in a barfine sutation.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2769532]Ok but how about this. You and your buddy barfine two girls from a girlie bar. You go to the same hotel room and tag team them. Some switching here and there. Everyone wins. I've done this in my private life quite a few times (unpaid), but never in a barfine sutation.[/QUOTE]Your girls got to know both of you before hand at the bar and travel time to the hotel and get somewhat comfortable with you and give you a vibe whether or not she liked you or not and could backout at any step of the way. Both girls saw it possibly happening and barfined anyways. In the other situation this did not happen. She was shocked and scared with no choice. No girl is expecting a to go with a guy and having several other guys show up for free and unknown to her.
Let's pretend all guys can only cum twice. Your example your girl could have both 2 loads from you or one load from you and one from the other guy for a total of two loads. In the Indian example she got 2 loads from 2 guys so a total of 4. If there were 3 guys then she got 6 loads. That is not easy. So if she is expecting a barfine equates to 2 loads then she was shorted barfine money by the 2 Indian guys and shorted 2 barfine amounts when there were 3 guys.
You are not a rapist. But I consider the Indian guys rapists.
My intention was in no way to defend those guys. That is seriously messed up and yes I would consider that criminal. I was putting forth an alternative scenario that would be more ethical assuming the girls knew what the plan was.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2769572]Your girls got to know both of you before hand at the bar and travel time to the hotel and get somewhat comfortable with you and give you a vibe whether or not she liked you or not and could backout at any step of the way. Both girls saw it possibly happening and barfined anyways. In the other situation this did not happen. She was shocked and scared with no choice. No girl is expecting a to go with a guy and having several other guys show up for free and unknown to her.
Let's pretend all guys can only cum twice. Your example your girl could have both 2 loads from you or one load from you and one from the other guy for a total of two loads. In the Indian example she got 2 loads from 2 guys so a total of 4. If there were 3 guys then she got 6 loads. That is not easy. So if she is expecting a barfine equates to 2 loads then she was shorted barfine money by the 2 Indian guys and shorted 2 barfine amounts when there were 3 guys.
You are not a rapist. But I consider the Indian guys rapists.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2769532]Ok but how about this. You and your buddy barfine two girls from a girlie bar. You go to the same hotel room and tag team them. Some switching here and there. Everyone wins. I've done this in my private life quite a few times (unpaid), but never in a barfine sutation.[/QUOTE]I've done this twice in AC.
Both if us went to the bar. We scoped the girls while we had a drink. We looked for two girls that seems to be engaging with each other. We invited them both for a lady drinks. We discussed the plan which they willingly accepted. Paid bar fines and back to the apartment. After a few hours the place was a mess of DNA, sperm, condoms, long black hairs, spa foams. What a great experience, all consensual and only in AC! And for less that US100.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2769732]I've done this twice in AC.
Both if us went to the bar. We scoped the girls while we had a drink. We looked for two girls that seems to be engaging with each other. We invited them both for a lady drinks. We discussed the plan which they willingly accepted. Paid bar fines and back to the apartment. After a few hours the place was a mess of DNA, sperm, condoms, long black hairs, spa foams. What a great experience, all consensual and only in AC! And for less that US100.[/QUOTE]This is nothing compared to a gang of seven or more horny mongers dosed up on 100 milligram Viagra pills running the train on an unsuspecting bar girl, fucking her into a coma and sending her back to the bar bow-legged and dripping cum for the grand sum of a single bar fine. These guys tend to be on the youngish side and out to get in at least three shots on goal, rotating from the front to the back of the train at least a few times.
Sounds like a lot of fun except for the condoms. :) Maybe I will try to make this happen in the next month. Arriving in AC in 3 days.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2769732]I've done this twice in AC.
Both if us went to the bar. We scoped the girls while we had a drink. We looked for two girls that seems to be engaging with each other. We invited them both for a lady drinks. We discussed the plan which they willingly accepted. Paid bar fines and back to the apartment. After a few hours the place was a mess of DNA, sperm, condoms, long black hairs, spa foams. What a great experience, all consensual and only in AC! And for less that US100.[/QUOTE]
The two graphs say it all regarding the pandemic effects on tourism. The year prior to pandemic, 2019, shows 8 million visitors. 2020 = 1. 5 million, 2021 = 0. 16 million, and this year (country re-opened in February) so far (second graph) about 800,000.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053908/philippines-number-of-foreign-visitor-tourist-arrivals/[/URL]
WC.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2770009]The two graphs say it all regarding the pandemic effects on tourism. The year prior to pandemic, 2019, shows 8 million visitors. 2020 = 1. 5 million, 2021 = 0. 16 million, and this year (country re-opened in February) so far (second graph) about 800,000.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053908/philippines-number-of-foreign-visitor-tourist-arrivals/[/URL]
WC.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Will be interesting to see how the numbers increase in 2023. Thailand just had their 10 millionth tourist for 2022 last week. But then they were hitting about 35 million tourists a year before the pandemic. Also they opened back up earlier and have been advertising more.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2770015]Thanks for the info. Will be interesting to see how the numbers increase in 2023. Thailand just had their 10 millionth tourist for 2022 last week. But then they were hitting about 35 million tourists a year before the pandemic. Also they opened back up earlier and have been advertising more.[/QUOTE]As an aside. For the life of me, I can't understand why any country (or entity) would be requiring a vaccine to enter. The various vaccines efficacy is short-lived I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. It lasts months, not years. It wanes quickly with older age. As the vast majority of those who received a vaccine, that would have been in 2021 (as various countries approached 60% of adults vaxxed, the daily vax rate dropped quickly). If we haven't been vaxxed in a year's time, the thing has become relatively ineffective (look, I'm speaking as Doctor Google here, not as Dr. Westy / Pinay Vax specialist). In addition, being vaxxed does not stop me from receiving or transmitting the virus. Everyone in power here seems to think that keeping unvaxxed persons out (of not only the country, but the malls) will stop transmission for those already inside. As vaxxed persons can receive and transmit the thing (but get fewer symptoms and die less often) as well as the unvaxxed, who would care if the inbound are vaccinated?
If that info is correct, why require a now-ineffective vaccine for entry? Are they hoping that unvaxxed foreigners will run out and get a recent vax in order to travel?
Is there a doctor in the house who can tell me that I am wrong? It seems a wild hypocrisy that in my province, the malls dropped the mask requirement weeks ago, but the DOH keeps personnel at the mall doors and check everyone's vax card for entry (that's right, you must be vaccinated, but you don't need a mask).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2770034]If that info is correct, why require a now-ineffective vaccine for entry? Are they hoping that unvaxxed foreigners will run out and get a recent vax in order to travel?
Is there a doctor in the house who can tell me that I am wrong? It seems a wild hypocrisy that in my province, the malls dropped the mask requirement weeks ago, but the DOH keeps personnel at the mall doors and check everyone's vax card for entry (that's right, you must be vaccinated, but you don't need a mask).[/QUOTE]Seems like deja vu. I think a few of us were saying these exact same things here almost 2 years ago and were told to shut the hell up spreading fake news and they hope we are never able to travel again since we would not get the Fauci Ouchy. The shit never added up in the first place, so I guess the joke was on them.
Even when I checked in for a flight to Colombia the other day I was asked for my fakey achey card. I said they are still doing that? I thought that shit had gone the way of the dodo bird by now, but evidently it is still a thing. I am not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2770034]As an aside. For the life of me, I can't understand why any country (or entity) would be requiring a vaccine to enter. The various vaccines efficacy is short-lived I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. It lasts months, not years. It wanes quickly with older age. As the vast majority of those who received a vaccine, that would have been in 2021 (as various countries approached 60% of adults vaxxed, the daily vax rate dropped quickly). If we haven't been vaxxed in a year's time, the thing has become relatively ineffective (look, I'm speaking as Doctor Google here, not as Dr. Westy / Pinay Vax specialist). In addition, being vaxxed does not stop me from receiving or transmitting the virus. Everyone in power here seems to think that keeping unvaxxed persons out (of not only the country, but the malls) will stop transmission for those already inside. As vaxxed persons can receive and transmit the thing (but get fewer symptoms and die less often) as well as the unvaxxed, who would care if the inbound are vaccinated?
If that info is correct, why require a now-ineffective vaccine for entry? Are they hoping that unvaxxed foreigners will run out and get a recent vax in order to travel?
Is there a doctor in the house who can tell me that I am wrong? It seems a wild hypocrisy that in my province, the malls dropped the mask requirement weeks ago, but the DOH keeps personnel at the mall doors and check everyone's vax card for entry (that's right, you must be vaccinated, but you don't need a mask).[/QUOTE]Still lots of stupid going on. The USA Still requires proof of vaccination before entering For non-citizens. To me the really stupid part is that having Covid doesn't count toward being vaccinated. I was vaccinated with the Jansen J&J one shot vaccine in April 2021 so I am considered vaccinated in most countries even without a booster shot. I did get the Phizer booster in April because I was thinking of traveling through Quatar in May. No more shots for me. That booster was worse than when I had the flu in June.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2769795]This is nothing compared to a gang of seven or more horny mongers dosed up on 100 milligram Viagra pills running the train on an unsuspecting bar girl, fucking her into a coma and sending her back to the bar bow-legged and dripping cum for the grand sum of a single bar fine. These guys tend to be on the youngish side and out to get in at least three shots on goal, rotating from the front to the back of the train at least a few times.[/QUOTE]The despicable mongers from that region of the world are taught that it's okay to treat hookers as sub-human. It's in their DNA. When they see a hooker, their brain goes into savage mode, and it's particularly true for those who are not westernized nor educated. In fact, they are expected to play out their rape fantasies on unsuspecting Pinays. It's a case of sloppy thirds or even sloppy fourths for those mongers lined up in the train, with all that cum oozing from each of the poor girls' orifices'.
There is a good reason why those mongers are so despised in Pattaya.
Well, for one, PH is now allowing unvaccinated travelers to enter, so it's kind of a moot point. They just need to get an antigen test 24 hours before departure. Still pretty dumb since being vaccinated doesn't mean you get on the plane without covid. The reasoning (when it was required) would be 'Hey we don't want another huge flare up in our country and all you foreigners filling up our hospitals, and the vaccine does prevent that, for the most part'. That being said, the jury is still out on whether or not the new omicron-based shot keeps you from getting it. I got it, so I guess I'll let ya know with my anecdotal evidence. I will say that everyone in my close circle currently has covid except for me, so I guess that's somethin. Interesting to note though, the original Pfizer trial data with the vaccine that was based on the alpha variant was 95% effective in preventing you from getting it. But within two months it had mutated and that was all out the window.
Anyhoo, I'm getting on the plane tomorrow and I haven't cum for a week so I'm going to be shooting it in and around everyone, so best look out.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2770034]As an aside. For the life of me, I can't understand why any country (or entity) would be requiring a vaccine to enter. The various vaccines efficacy is short-lived I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. It lasts months, not years. It wanes quickly with older age. As the vast majority of those who received a vaccine, that would have been in 2021 (as various countries approached 60% of adults vaxxed, the daily vax rate dropped quickly). If we haven't been vaxxed in a year's time, the thing has become relatively ineffective (look, I'm speaking as Doctor Google here, not as Dr. Westy / Pinay Vax specialist). In addition, being vaxxed does not stop me from receiving or transmitting the virus. Everyone in power here seems to think that keeping unvaxxed persons out (of not only the country, but the malls) will stop transmission for those already inside. As vaxxed persons can receive and transmit the thing (but get fewer symptoms and die less often) as well as the unvaxxed, who would care if the inbound are vaccinated?
If that info is correct, why require a now-ineffective vaccine for entry? Are they hoping that unvaxxed foreigners will run out and get a recent vax in order to travel?
Is there a doctor in the house who can tell me that I am wrong? It seems a wild hypocrisy that in my province, the malls dropped the mask requirement weeks ago, but the DOH keeps personnel at the mall doors and check everyone's vax card for entry (that's right, you must be vaccinated, but you don't need a mask).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2770112]The despicable mongers from that region of the world are taught that it's okay to treat hookers as sub-human. It's in their DNA. When they see a hooker, their brain goes into savage mode, and it's particularly true for those who are not westernized nor educated. In fact, they are expected to play out their rape fantasies on unsuspecting Pinays. It's a case of sloppy thirds or even sloppy fourths for those mongers lined up in the train, with all that cum oozing from each of the poor girls' orifices'.
There is a good reason why those mongers are so despised in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]The sloppy thirds and fourths are usually from brothers and cousins running the train on the poor Pinay, filling her up with one huge family-sized cream pie. Any bar girl who comes down pregnant from such debauchery will never be able to sort out the daddy.
I know this question has probably been asked before but let's ask again to my tastes. Okay, ready to finally visit Philippines or Thailand. Where should I go. Looking for quality not quantity now. I'm 50 now. Which country has the hottest 18 to 23. Is there a non pro area or are the locals not going to be with a white guy because they don't want to be thought of as a tute. Are the less touristy cities in Philippines or Thailand the better play. I'm really looking for something different this go around. I want be with a non hooker for most of the time there and sneak away to the working girl houses on the side. With that in mind where do you recommend. Thanks.
Tiz the season gents. If your pinay Christmas monetary requests haven't shot thru the roof, they will in the next few days. Dig deep and support the boobie (s). And their family. Hey, who's taking that picture. . . ?
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772072]I know this question has probably been asked before but let's ask again to my tastes. Okay, ready to finally visit Philippines or Thailand. Where should I go. Looking for quality not quantity now. I'm 50 now. Which country has the hottest 18 to 23. Is there a non pro area or are the locals not going to be with a white guy because they don't want to be thought of as a tute. Are the less touristy cities in Philippines or Thailand the better play. I'm really looking for something different this go around. I want be with a non hooker for most of the time there and sneak away to the working girl houses on the side. With that in mind where do you recommend. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I will let others talk about the Philippines. Thai women can be very jealous. I have heard that Thai hospitals lead the world in penis reattachment surgeries. Also having a relationship with a "nice girl" is a long term commitment. The "nice girls" you will meet will be very wary of your advancements, they have seen it before. If you go to Thailand I would suggest Hua HIn. More of a laid back place where a lot of Thais vacation.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2772442]I will let others talk about the Philippines. Thai women can be very jealous. I have heard that Thai hospitals lead the world in penis reattachment surgeries. Also having a relationship with a "nice girl" is a long term commitment. The "nice girls" you will meet will be very wary of your advancements, they have seen it before. If you go to Thailand I would suggest Hua HIn. More of a laid back place where a lot of Thais vacation.[/QUOTE]Hua Hin looks amazing. Does DIA have enough selection to find one or two girls to date in Hua Hin for that week. Are there side hookers places or all regular chicks.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772584]Hua Hin looks amazing. Does DIA have enough selection to find one or two girls to date in Hua Hin for that week. Are there side hookers places or all regular chicks.[/QUOTE]I don't use the dating sights but I think you will have more luck with Thai Friendly in Thailand than DIA. There are plenty of bars with working girls on Soi Bentabaht, Soi 80, and Soi 94. Also around Soi Bentabaht there are plenty of massage places that offer full service.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772072]. Which country has the hottest 18 to 23.Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, no authority has yet conducted a definitive study to determine which country has the hottest 18 to 23 year olds. It's quite a silly question. Thais and Filipinas are racially different. And quite a few are mixed race. Spanish, Chinese etc influence over the years.
Your proposal to have a girlfriend with full emotional attachment, then sneaking off to fuck hookers on the side is not a good idea. It will not end well. Don't lead girls on into thinking you're going to marry them. It's cruel. Just fuck hookers, or have a temporary girlfriend telling her upfront it just a business arrangement. Plenty will take your offer as it's better than sitting in a dorm room with no money.
Since you are new to this region, Thailand will be an easier option for you. Get girls from the bars and if you like them, you can keep them for a few days as your "instant girlfriend". They won't be expecting marriage. Spend some time to learn the culture and girl behaviors before getting too deep.
Should I book my whole vacation in Hua Hin. Can I boogie board there everyday. .Smooci looks like a great site. Very affordable too. Is Thai friendly mostly hookers like Colombian dating sites.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772847]Should I book my whole vacation in Hua Hin. Can I boogie board there everyday. .Smooci looks like a great site. Very affordable too. Is Thai friendly mostly hookers like Colombian dating sites.[/QUOTE]Probably should move this discussion to Thailand section.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2772843]Your proposal to have a girlfriend with full emotional attachment, then sneaking off to fuck hookers on the side is not a good idea. It will not end well. Don't lead girls on into thinking you're going to marry them. It's cruel. Just fuck hookers, or have a temporary girlfriend telling her upfront it just a business arrangement. Plenty will take your offer as it's better than sitting in a dorm room with no money.
[/QUOTE]Your recommendation makes sense for the monger who flies under the radar. However, some mongers need drama and danger to get it up. Promising normal girls eternal love and fidelity in order to use them for girlfriend sex while betraying them to have nasty sex with hookers is the ultimate sex tourist fantasy. If her daddy or uncle is a vengeful policeman or local politician, it just makes things more saucy and dangerous. It is just what the average middle-aged monger needs to feel alive again.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772847]Should I book my whole vacation in Hua Hin. Can I boogie board there everyday. .Smooci looks like a great site. Very affordable too. Is Thai friendly mostly hookers like Colombian dating sites.[/QUOTE]So many questions. Just RTFF. It's all in the Thailand section. You seem to like flying manager class.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772072]I know this question has probably been asked before but let's ask again to my tastes. Okay, ready to finally visit Philippines or Thailand. Where should I go. Looking for quality not quantity now. I'm 50 now. Which country has the hottest 18 to 23.[/QUOTE]Go to both places, spend 6 months, have a look-see. There's no way for us to guess what your opinion of 'hottest' is.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772072]Are the less touristy cities in Philippines or Thailand the better play. I'm really looking for something different this go around. I want be with a non hooker for most of the time there and sneak away to the working girl houses on the side.[/QUOTE]I'm with ED, that's a bad idea. Join the long list of fellas who want that. The better play with a GF in the province is for you to slip out of town to see other ladies. A jaunt each 6 weeks or so to AC is not a bad idea.
The alternative in the province is to use cheap pensione houses or ST hotels in your town. But the chismosa will eventually get back to your girl, or worse, to her family. Hell hath no fury like a pinay's family scorned.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2772584]Hua Hin looks amazing. Does DIA have enough selection to find one or two girls to date in Hua Hin for that week. Are there side hookers places or all regular chicks.[/QUOTE]Mixing up geographic locations in the incorrect thread. Please move this discussion to the Thailand forums.
What is the best beach or island in the Philippines to boogie board. I would like it to have some whoring on the island for night time but I want to boogie board a couple hours every morning. I don't want to just stay in the concrete jungle and go to go go bars every day and night. Thanks.
During my travels this month and last I can report that Philippine airports have not been collecting any 'departure' in-person passenger charge.
I know pre-Covid Manila was the only airport where it was included in the ticket. Now I am just realizing that I did not get asked at any of the airports including Cebu and three other smaller regional airports.
Maybe someone could check to see it's actually not included in the ticket prices which makes sense.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2773014]What is the best beach or island in the Philippines to boogie board. I would like it to have some whoring on the island for night time but I want to boogie board a couple hours every morning. I don't want to just stay in the concrete jungle and go to go go bars every day and night. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Siargao Island.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2773014]What is the best beach or island in the Philippines to boogie board. I would like it to have some whoring on the island for night time but I want to boogie board a couple hours every morning. I don't want to just stay in the concrete jungle and go to go go bars every day and night. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I believe different beaches have different seasons for surf. Siargo Island is famous. Around Carmines I have heard but not been.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2773159]During my travels this month and last I can report that Philippine airports have not been collecting any 'departure' in-person passenger charge.
I know pre-Covid Manila was the only airport where it was included in the ticket. Now I am just realizing that I did not get asked at any of the airports including Cebu and three other smaller regional airports.
Maybe someone could check to see it's actually not included in the ticket prices which makes sense.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. Don't think that I've paid a departure tax anywhere in Phils since about 2015-2016? Others?
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2773159]
Maybe someone could check to see it's actually not included in the ticket prices which makes sense.[/QUOTE]Clark collected terminal fee cash on outbound international until recently. Now it's included. MIA included this in ticket price long before CRK.
[URL]https://clarkinternationalairport.com/passenger-service-charge-integration/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2773331]I'm confused. Don't think that I've paid a departure tax anywhere in Phils since about 2015-2016? Others?[/QUOTE]I was definitely getting slugged in Surigao in 2017, Siargao 2018. Local airport boards benefited by being laggards.
Bali did the same after the Arrival tax was removed by the national government they continued to collect it on arrival in DPS as it was 'too hard' to stop. It did stop in 2019 but now it's also back there.
Well its Noche Buena in panty-drop land. From my ranch to yours: Merry Christmas, gents. Remember to hold on to something you believe in. Seize the day and make the most of the ride. Don't let go until you've given it your all.
Enjoy the pics.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2773331]I'm confused. Don't think that I've paid a departure tax anywhere in Phils since about 2015-2016? Others?[/QUOTE]Are we talking International or Domestic Departures?
I've paid plenty of Domestic airport charges over the years. Never more than a coupe of hundred pesos.
My only International charge for the last decade was to the Benevolent Customs Officers' Christmas Fund when I overstayed by two days.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2773653]Are we talking International or Domestic Departures?
I've paid plenty of Domestic airport charges over the years. Never more than a coupe of hundred pesos.
My only International charge for the last decade was to the Benevolent Customs Officers' Christmas Fund when I overstayed by two days.[/QUOTE]I think the OP was referring to Domestic. I flew from the province to NAIA last year and paid no local charge. The airport in that province is newer, from just a few years prior to Covid. I only paid the local departure tax once (p200) when the airport first opened. Have not paid it since.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2773653]
I've paid plenty of Domestic airport charges over the years. Never more than a coupe of hundred pesos.
[/QUOTE]Yes, I was referring to the Domestic departure charges that had previously been getting charged. The in person collection method has disappeared at some point.
For once, it is a positive change as it always caught me out not having the right money.
With much help gleaned from posts here and from insightful replies to my questions, my originally planned trip last June never happened. A rather ill-timed health issue forced me to cancel. Fortunately, my total cash losses were limited to about $350 from airfare cancelation fees.
Now I'm back on track and have booked 16 days, split between Manila and Angeles, in mid-March. It's been interesting to see (from ongoing posts here) how things have changed over the last 6-8 months:
The Good:
1. COVID bureaucracy (tests, forms, etc.) have faded away. And wearing masks seems to me a remaining "requirement" that is easily ignored with little consequence.
2. More hotels are open for leisure booking (no longer exclusively quarantine) and guest polices are generally favorable.
3. More bars are open, or reopened, or newly opened. So if you believe that ample supply drives a wider number of choices, it's a good time to go shopping for whatever niche tickles your fancy.
4. FX rates are more favorable right now. Around PHP55 to $1 USD. Hoping they will stay at or over 55 until I arrive in March.
The not as Good:
1. None of the hotels I booked last time required a deposit or payment in full at time of booking. No so today. Both hotels in Manila (Manila Lotus Hotel, Makati Palace) required full payment, non-refundable, at booking. Fortunately, the ABC Hotel in Angeles did not require payment in advance. This is one of the most expensive (for a reason!) hotels to book, so being able to keep my cash for now, and possibly getting a cash discount when I arrive make the pre-pay mode in Manila more bearable.
2. More clubs open. But. Less top-shelf talent available in any given location. Lots of speculation here about causes: Korean buyer dominance, girls learning how to hustle online cash, or fewer new / fresh arrivals from other regions. Who knows? Again, from reports here it seems that even with diminished supply and / or quality, there are still gems to be found. Or maybe it's easy to rationalize that the best pussy available is still better than no pussy at all.
3. On top of supply issues, prices are up. Way up. ST and LT Bar fines climbing. ST rates are sometimes over PHP5,000 (plus mandatory tips up to PHP5,000 in Manila). FL rates also up past the PHP3,000-5,000 level or more. And escort services like Smooci up to PHP6,000-12,000 for 2 hours. These are still considerably lower than typical P-4-P rates in the US (including pros, sugar babies, and take-home strippers), so I can still anticipate getting what I want for what I can easily afford. But when you add in airfare costs, you get a lot closer to a break-even point in local costs for P-4-P vs. Philippines costs for P-4-P.
What is about the same:
1. Dealing with SIM cards / local phone service.
2. Local and inter-city transportation (trikes, Grab. Taxis, busses, private car).
3. Food / restaurant scene.
4. Weather. Mother Nature does not give one fuck if you like heat or cold, or rain or shine. You get what you get: Hot and humid.
5. Non-COVID travel stuff: Visa's, immigration, etc.
So there it is. I'm still interested in getting accurate and comprehensive intel on bar fines, girl tips, and FL rates for ST and LT. Sadly, many FR's do not specify if a rate is ST or LT, if they include any amounts at all.
Thanks again for all the assists and advice. I plan on submitting detailed FR's along the way.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2774209]
So there it is. I'm still interested in getting accurate and comprehensive intel on bar fines, girl tips, and FL rates for ST and LT. Sadly, many FR's do not specify if a rate is ST or LT, if they include any amounts at all.
Thanks again for all the assists and advice. I plan on submitting detailed FR's along the way.[/QUOTE]You simply won't get the level of detail on BF & LD that you require in your planning. Does it matter before you arrive if a barfine was P3,000 or P5000? USD50 or USD85? In our home countries, we pay that much just to park our car for a few hours.
What you will know is that filipina will be their loving, caring, fuck-hungry selves for significantly less than your home country.
BTW my budget for girls was P3 K per day for the duration of my visit. I was always using freelances or dating sites.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2774209]What is about the same:
1. Dealing with SIM cards / local phone service.[/QUOTE]Today, December 27, a new law goes into effect: The SIM Card Registration Act. It will require everyone to register their SIM card with their TelCo to include your name, SIM card number and address. Supposedly its to cut down on scams (or for the conspiracy minded, its so the DEEP STATE can keep an eye on you). From the article:
"The SIM Card Registration Act, or*Republic Act*11934, will require all SIM card users*to register their personal information with*telecommunications companies*or telcos, details which can be made available upon the request of a court or other law enforcement agencies. ".
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/gadgets/2022/10/11/2215885/sim-card-registration-act-pros-and-cons[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2774209]I'm still interested in getting accurate and comprehensive intel on bar fines, girl tips, and FL rates for ST and LT. Sadly, many FR's do not specify if a rate is ST or LT, if they include any amounts at all.[/QUOTE]The long / short of it seems to be this: Prices are up for point-and-shoot gals (think in terms of all other product price increases during the covid era) sought after by two-week warriors. Prices have dropped for expats or long-term tourists because the rest of the girls had no safety net during covid.
You come.
You pay.
You fuck.
Simple system here in PH. Nothing else comparable to the experience.
No need to get all complicated about the system, service and availability.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2774261]You come.
You pay.
You fuck.
Simple system here in PH. Nothing else comparable to the experience.
No need to get all complicated about the system, service and availability.[/QUOTE]I usually do it fuck-come-pay but to each their own.
The above is the correct email site for the new epass.
I searched to for it and was directed to a paid site. I believe I was ripped for $79. I wasn't paying any attention and entered a CC number. I realized I was scammed a minute later. The real site does not ask for any payment.
I feel dumb. That was the price of a barfine.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2774238]Today, December 27, a new law goes into effect: The SIM Card Registration Act. It will require everyone to register their SIM card with their TelCo to include your name, SIM card number and address. Supposedly its to cut down on scams (or for the conspiracy minded, its so the DEEP STATE can keep an eye on you). [/QUOTE]Do we know anything about the de facto implementation of this? Effective dates are usually a recommendation, at best, in PH. I have a couple PH sims roamed here in SFZ, one of which is a burner that will serve as a lithmus sim. Will soon be back in PH anyway, so no stress, I guess.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2774238]Today, December 27, a new law goes into effect: The SIM Card Registration Act. It will require everyone to register their SIM card with their TelCo to include your name, SIM card number and address. Supposedly its to cut down on scams (or for the conspiracy minded, its so the DEEP STATE can keep an eye on you). From the article:
.[/QUOTE]WE've had a similar law in Australia for years. Valid ID is also required as proof. Banks, insurance and other agencies often require it.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2774271]Do we know anything about the de facto implementation of this? Effective dates are usually a recommendation, at best, in PH. I have a couple PH sims roamed here in SFZ, one of which is a burner that will serve as a lithmus sim. Will soon be back in PH anyway, so no stress, I guess.[/QUOTE]My understanding of the new SIM registration rules is that if you bring your US phone (mine is on Verizon) and use it in PH, your SIM card is already registered with your US carrier. So no need to register it with the PH government. If I add a new e-SIM (still considering this option), that will need to be registered and the registration will be a seamless part of the e-SIM activation.
But I guess I won't really know until I land at MNL.
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2774271]Do we know anything about the de facto implementation of this? Effective dates are usually a recommendation, at best, in PH. I have a couple PH sims roamed here in SFZ, one of which is a burner that will serve as a lithmus sim. Will soon be back in PH anyway, so no stress, I guess.[/QUOTE]From the Globe website, a FAQ page:
[URL]https://www.globe.com.ph/help/sim-registration-act.html[/URL]
[B]Who is covered by the SIM Registration Act?[/B]
The law covers all individuals, both local and foreign, and corporate entities using SIMs purchased in the Philippines for use in devices such as mobile and modems.
[B]How long do SIM users have to register their SIMs?[/B]
All existing mobile phone and broadband subscribers are given until April 26,2023 to register their SIMs with their respective telco. The Department of Information and Communications Technology (DICT) may extend the registration period for 120 days, though this has yet to be confirmed.
[B]What information is required to register SIMs?[/B]
When you are about to register your SIM, please prepare the following information:
Full name.
Date of Birth*.
Sex.
Address.
Type of government ID presented + ID number.
Government ID with photo.
Declaration that the information presented are true and correct.
[B]What kinds of identification cards will be accepted to register SIMs?[/B]
The following are the official ID cards that will be accepted in registering SIMs:
Passport;.
Philippine Identification System ID, or the Philippine Identification Card;.
Social Security Service ID;.
Government Service Insurance System e-Card;.
Driver's License;.
National Bureau of Investigation clearance;.
Police clearance;.
Firearms' License to Own and Possess ID;.
Professional Regulation Commission ID;.
Integrated Bar of the Philippines ID;.
Overseas Workers Welfare Administration ID;.
Bureau of Internal Revenue ID;.
Voter's ID;.
Senior Citizen's card;.
Unified Multi-purpose Identification Card;.
Person with Disabilities card; or.
Other government-issued ID with photo.
[B]How long do SIM users have to register their SIMs?[/B]
All existing mobile phone and broadband subscribers are given until April 26,2023 to register their SIMs with their respective telco. The Department of Information and Communications Technology (DICT) may extend the registration period for 120 days, though this has yet to be confirmed.
[B]What information is required to register SIMs?[/B]
When you are about to register your SIM, please prepare the following information:
Full name.
Date of Birth*.
Sex.
Address.
Type of government ID presented + ID number.
Government ID with photo.
Declaration that the information presented are true and correct.
[B]I'm a foreigner in the Philippines. Am I required to register my Philippine SIM?[/B]
Yes.
If you are a foreigner visiting as a tourist, your registered SIM shall only be valid for 30 days, and shall automatically be deactivated upon expiration of the SIM. In order to register, please ensure you have these requirements:
Passport (I. E. , copy of the bio-page and pages where the current visa is stamped or shown).
Proof of address in the Philippines (booking in a hotel or other type of accommodation, or in the absence thereof, an affidavit / letter from the owner of the house or residence where such foreign national will stay).
Return ticket to country of origin or to another country indicating date and time of departure from the Philippines.
If you are a foreign national with another type of visa, please present:
Passport (I. E. , copy of the bio-page and pages where the current visa is stamped or shown) indicating passport number, full name and nationality.
Proof of address in the Philippines (booking in a hotel or other type of accommodation, or in the absence thereof, an affidavit / letter from the owner of the house or residence where such foreign national will stay).
Other pertinent document, whichever is applicable:
Alien Certificate of Registration Identification Card (ACRI-Card) from the Bureau of Immigration or other types of official ID issued by any other visa-issuing agency.
Alien Employment Permit from the Department of Labor and Employment or School registration and ID for students.
For Persons of Concern or POCs, the type of travel or admission document validly issued by the Philippine Department of Justice.
The law goes into effect today I believe, and SIM card holders have until the end of June to register. For post-paid accounts with Smart, the process was easy. We got text messages from Smart, and responded thus becoming registered automatically. For those with pre-paid SIMs, the process will required filling out some paperwork and providing identification. I've read or been told that all unregistered SIM cards will be dis-activated effective sometime toward the end of June. My guess is that the government's doing this to cut down on the flood of scam texts that we receive weekly from prepaid SIMs that are likely bought in bulk.
GE.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2774351]From the Globe website, a FAQ page:
[URL]https://www.globe.com.ph/help/sim-registration-act.html[/URL]
[B]Who is covered by the SIM Registration Act?[/B]
The law covers all individuals, both local and foreign, and corporate entities using SIMs purchased in the Philippines for use in devices such as mobile and modems.
[B]How long do SIM users have to register their SIMs?[/B]
All existing mobile phone and broadband subscribers are given until April 26,2023 to register their SIMs with their respective telco. The Department of Information and Communications Technology (DICT) may extend the registration period for 120 days, though this has yet to be confirmed.
[B]What information is required to register SIMs?[/B]
When you are about to register your SIM, please prepare the following information:
Full name.
Date of Birth*.
Sex.
Address.
Type of government ID presented + ID number.
Government ID with photo.
Declaration that the information presented are true and correct.
[B]What kinds of identification cards will be accepted to register SIMs?[/B]
The following are the official ID cards that will be accepted in registering SIMs:
Passport;.
Philippine Identification System ID, or the Philippine Identification Card;.
Social Security Service ID;.
Government Service Insurance System e-Card;.
Driver's License;.
National Bureau of Investigation clearance;.
Police clearance;.
Firearms' License to Own and Possess ID;.
Professional Regulation Commission ID;.
Integrated Bar of the Philippines ID;.
Overseas Workers Welfare Administration ID;.
Bureau of Internal Revenue ID;.
Voter's ID;.
Senior Citizen's card;.
Unified Multi-purpose Identification Card;.
Person with Disabilities card; or.
Other government-issued ID with photo.
[B]How long do SIM users have to register their SIMs?[/B]
All existing mobile phone and broadband subscribers are given until April 26,2023 to register their SIMs with their respective telco. The Department of Information and Communications Technology (DICT) may extend the registration period for 120 days, though this has yet to be confirmed.
[B]What information is required to register SIMs?[/B]
When you are about to register your SIM, please prepare the following information:
Full name.
Date of Birth*.
Sex.
Address.
Type of government ID presented + ID number.
Government ID with photo.
Declaration that the information presented are true and correct.
[B]I'm a foreigner in the Philippines. Am I required to register my Philippine SIM?[/B]
Yes.
If you are a foreigner visiting as a tourist, your registered SIM shall only be valid for 30 days, and shall automatically be deactivated upon expiration of the SIM. In order to register, please ensure you have these requirements:
Passport (I. E. , copy of the bio-page and pages where the current visa is stamped or shown).
Proof of address in the Philippines (booking in a hotel or other type of accommodation, or in the absence thereof, an affidavit / letter from the owner of the house or residence where such foreign national will stay).
Return ticket to country of origin or to another country indicating date and time of departure from the Philippines.
If you are a foreign national with another type of visa, please present:
Passport (I. E. , copy of the bio-page and pages where the current visa is stamped or shown) indicating passport number, full name and nationality.
Proof of address in the Philippines (booking in a hotel or other type of accommodation, or in the absence thereof, an affidavit / letter from the owner of the house or residence where such foreign national will stay).
Other pertinent document, whichever is applicable:
Alien Certificate of Registration Identification Card (ACRI-Card) from the Bureau of Immigration or other types of official ID issued by any other visa-issuing agency.
Alien Employment Permit from the Department of Labor and Employment or School registration and ID for students.
For Persons of Concern or POCs, the type of travel or admission document validly issued by the Philippine Department of Justice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2774376]The law goes into effect today I believe, and SIM card holders have until the end of June to register. For post-paid accounts with Smart, the process was easy. We got text messages from Smart, and responded thus becoming registered automatically. For those with pre-paid SIMs, the process will required filling out some paperwork and providing identification. I've read or been told that all unregistered SIM cards will be dis-activated effective sometime toward the end of June.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that when you use a pre-paid SIM starting yesterday, it will stop working after a period of time (such as 30 days) if you don't register it.
Like GE, on my post-paid plan, I got a txt msg from my provider saying that they would register it for me. Makes sense, they have all the needed documentation from me from the initial point of purchase: ID, address, and so on.
Can anyone recommend some good escort agencies in Cebu with decent selection of girls?
I suppose Filipinas will be changing SIM's even faster now than before. They only cost about 50 pesos at about every sari sari store. Probably just a matter of time before it's like most countries where you have to bring your document into the store and register before you can even get one.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2774570]My understanding is that when you use a pre-paid SIM starting yesterday, it will stop working after a period of time (such as 30 days) if you don't register it.
Like GE, on my post-paid plan, I got a txt msg from my provider saying that they would register it for me. Makes sense, they have all the needed documentation from me from the initial point of purchase: ID, address, and so on.[/QUOTE]And what happens if we use eSIM?
I see that we can buy data plans before travelling for almost any countries, including Philippines.
ESIM can also be available on almost any kind of phones through the eSIM. Me card and application, its a new solution giving you a sim card able to host eSIM plans, data and / or voice, or you must have a phone able to receive eSIM natively.
But with this eSIM. Me any phone becomes eSIM compatible.
And then you can buy any data plans for any country before leaving your country, activation occurs once you are on the ground.
Not sure if we have to register with such kind of eSIM. Whatsapp will be available through datas, same for Whatsapp voice calls.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2774211]You simply won't get the level of detail on BF & LD that you require in your planning. Does it matter before you arrive if a barfine was P3,000 or P5000? USD50 or USD85? In our home countries, we pay that much just to park our car for a few hours.
What you will know is that filipina will be their loving, caring, fuck-hungry selves for significantly less than your home country.
BTW my budget for girls was P3 K per day for the duration of my visit. I was always using freelances or dating sites.[/QUOTE]I'm going to budget high - $200 USD (PHP7,000) per session all in (bar fine, lady fee & tip, lady drinks, Grab). So worst case, I'll probably come in at or slightly below budget, unless I decide to experiment with Smooci as a last resort if the bars and FL spots fail me.
Fortunately, I can easily afford this as I'll use funds normally allocated for my local Sugar Babies.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2774923]I'm going to budget high - $200 USD (PHP7,000) per session all in (bar fine, lady fee & tip, lady drinks, Grab). So worst case, I'll probably come in at or slightly below budget,.[/QUOTE]US $200 is PHP11,000 not 7,000. That's:
6ST FLs in either Manila or AC.
3 Online STs anywhere.
2 Online LTs anywhere.
2 or 3 AC BFs Who knows if she will do a1 pop runner?
1 Burgos BFs with a couple of drinks.
It's unclear why you want to keep a strict account of your spending. If it's just preplanning, then, unless you run wild with drinks, your budget is generous. If you want to limit spending, then just spend more time in AC than MNL and make use of cheaper FL and online options.
Enjoy. G.
Greetings Gents,
I'm planning to fly to the Philippines next week from Thailand for a change of scenery and I have a couple of questions if I may:
For those that are not fully vaxxed, what is the requirements to enter the Philippines? I read on Kayak, that the unvaxxed can enter the Philippines with a negative COVID-19 test result.
Is that it?
And are the hotels / airbnbs still requiring vax card to register / check in and enter each time?
I'm mostly looking at Manila and Cebu at this time.
Appreciate all the feedback guys.
Happy New Year and Happy Hunting!
[QUOTE=Sprite133;2775129].. .Is that it?. . [/QUOTE]You're correct, almost. The other thing you need is a travel declaration. It takes about a minute to fill up and you get an instant barcode that they'll ask for at some point.
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL]
Philippine Airlines has a useful tool if you go to "prepare" then "requirements". But its only a tool, its not the last word.
You can try this one too. It's the International Air Teavel Association.
[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/PH-Philippines-passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm[/URL]
One thing that catches people by surprise is yellow fever. Entering Philippines from say, Brazil, or Africa youd need Proof of yellow fever shot. But I dont think Thailand is on that list, better double check.
Regarding hotels and stuff, its no longer required by law but that dont mean the person working there is up on it. And the individual establishment has the right to enforce whatever policy they choose, I suppose. Its their place. WC mentioned that someone hit him up, and his FUBU wasnt allowed entry. So you better check with the place before you book.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2774238]Today, December 27, a new law goes into effect: The SIM Card Registration Act. It will require everyone to register their SIM card with their TelCo to include your name, SIM card number and address. Supposedly its to cut down on scams (or for the conspiracy minded, its so the DEEP STATE can keep an eye on you). [/QUOTE]From social media, see pic.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2774935]US $200 is PHP11,000 not 7,000. That's:
6ST FLs in either Manila or AC.
3 Online STs anywhere.
2 Online LTs anywhere.
2 or 3 AC BFs Who knows if she will do a1 pop runner?
1 Burgos BFs with a couple of drinks.
It's unclear why you want to keep a strict account of your spending. If it's just preplanning, then, unless you run wild with drinks, your budget is generous. If you want to limit spending, then just spend more time in AC than MNL and make use of cheaper FL and online options.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Agree: $200 USD is about PHP11,000.
I am a planner, it's just my nature. But I'm not worried about overspending, if the purpose is worth the price. Fortunately, I can easily afford the current prices for ladies as well as upscale hotels & food, and I've booked business class airfare as well.
I do, however, like to understand my expected costs so that in the heat of the moment (I. E. : when a 4'10" spinner is rubbing my dick under the table), I negotiate a current (and perhaps below) market rate. Being able to afford paying 150% to 300% over market does not mean I want to do so.
Again, many thanks for the community expertise and advice. I'm certain that I will have a great trip and will fulfill all my hedonistic needs. At least for a while. LOL.
I've been researching this for a long time here, on YouTube and other blogs / vlogs and I have yet to get an authoritative answer. I'll appreciate anyone here that provide accurate guidance.
I am big guy: 6'1" tall, weigh about 320 lbs /145 kg, and I'm 61 years old. My health is ok, not great, and I have difficulty walking more than a few blocks.
My concern is about being able to use trikes to get around. Will I fit comfortably? If I want to bring a bar girl to a hotel (mine or a sogo) will she fit in a trike with me comfortably? It's really hard to know by just reviewing videos from the area.
If the answers are no, is my next best option booking a Grab through the mobile App? I realize that on Walking Street in Angeles, getting a Grab during peak hours means moving to a nearby, parallel street. That seems doable.
Finally, if I use Grab am I better off paying through the App or should I wait to negotiate with the driver and pay cash.
Thanks again for any insights you can provide.
MrHappyKat,
I am bigger and taller than you and can answer based on my experience. My experience is in Angeles City not Manila. But:
If able to get a Grab. Get a Grab! The lady will make herself fit in the Trike. She can get on the side. Like the fender and hold on to you. There are some larger trikes and you can request. But the trikes have un-holy Suspension and the potholes will fuck your back up. Ask me how I know this. Trikes can be wide enough and you and her can make it work. But the Bumpiness with our weight just makes it uncomfortable. So get a grab car if available. And again, don't worry about her. Worst case you get in on trike an she gets in another go to the same places. But yeah, very uncomfortable. At our size.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2775420]I've been researching this for a long time here, on YouTube and other blogs / vlogs and I have yet to get an authoritative answer. I'll appreciate anyone here that provide accurate guidance.
I am big guy: 6'1" tall, weigh about 320 lbs /145 kg, and I'm 61 years old. My health is ok, not great, and I have difficulty walking more than a few blocks.
My concern is about being able to use trikes to get around. Will I fit comfortably? If I want to bring a bar girl to a hotel (mine or a sogo) will she fit in a trike with me comfortably? It's really hard to know by just reviewing videos from the area.
If the answers are no, is my next best option booking a Grab through the mobile App? I realize that on Walking Street in Angeles, getting a Grab during peak hours means moving to a nearby, parallel street. That seems doable.
Finally, if I use Grab am I better off paying through the App or should I wait to negotiate with the driver and pay cash.
Thanks again for any insights you can provide.[/QUOTE]Trikes are really uncomfortable even for us smaller guys. You may fit in but you are not going to enjoy it and the girlie will likely be riding pillion with the driver. She won't mind but again, you won't enjoy it.
Regular Grabs are often tiny sub compacts, even smaller than the regular white taxis. However, the app does have the option to book a 'XL' car which will cost slightly more, have less available but will be far more comfortable.
If you really struggle with mobility, it wouldn't hurt to keep the WhatsApp number of preferred drivers / cars and call them direct.
If I was a smart ass, I'd suggest that walking around Manila or AC in the midday heat will soon see you down at 250. 😜.
With a little preplanning you will be fine.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2775420]
My concern is about being able to use trikes to get around. Will I fit comfortably? If I want to bring a bar girl to a hotel (mine or a sogo) .[/QUOTE]I should have added, why not just stay in the middle of the action? There are several hotels directly on Walking Street, Burgos, Makati etc.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2775425]I should have added, why not just stay in the middle of the action? There are several hotels directly on Walking Street, Burgos, Makati etc.[/QUOTE]Speaking of. Oxford Suites on Burgos / Durban streets was running a monthly p20 k promo. You also shoulder the separate electric (usage depends on you) and the Internet (p1500). You can make an appointment and look at an available unit. The promo was walk-in only, and there was a sign just inside the lobby.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2775420]I've been researching this for a long time here, on YouTube and other blogs / vlogs and I have yet to get an authoritative answer. I'll appreciate anyone here that provide accurate guidance.
Finally, if I use Grab am I better off paying through the App or should I wait to negotiate with the driver and pay cash.
Thanks again for any insights you can provide.[/QUOTE]Get an apartment near where you want to be. I like Malate, some Pasay and some Makati. I don't go to shop and Malate has a wide range of good restaurants. Go onto the apps and order in a girl. Pina love, Tinder, TanTan, Date in Asia, filipino cupid. If you want a freelancer then Makati or LA Cafe (Malate / Ermitra) or outside Robinsons Place in Malate.
I finally uploaded my credit card to Grab and found it convenient. Don't have to worry about small change.
Hi Sam, thank you so much for the detailed reply, really appreciate it. If we ever meet, drinks on me!
[QUOTE=Sam14;2775236]You're correct, almost. The other thing you need is a travel declaration. It takes about a minute to fill up and you get an instant barcode that they'll ask for at some point.
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL]
Philippine Airlines has a useful tool if you go to "prepare" then "requirements". But its only a tool, its not the last word.
You can try this one too. It's the International Air Teavel Association.
[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/PH-Philippines-passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm[/URL]
One thing that catches people by surprise is yellow fever. Entering Philippines from say, Brazil, or Africa youd need Proof of yellow fever shot. But I dont think Thailand is on that list, better double check.
Regarding hotels and stuff, its no longer required by law but that dont mean the person working there is up on it. And the individual establishment has the right to enforce whatever policy they choose, I suppose. Its their place. WC mentioned that someone hit him up, and his FUBU wasnt allowed entry. So you better check with the place before you book.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2775420]I've been researching this for a long time here, on YouTube and other blogs / vlogs and I have yet to get an authoritative answer. I'll appreciate anyone here that provide accurate guidance.
I am big guy: 6'1" tall, weigh about 320 lbs /145 kg, and I'm 61 years old. My health is ok, not great, and I have difficulty walking more than a few blocks.
My concern is about being able to use trikes to get around. Will I fit comfortably? If I want to bring a bar girl to a hotel (mine or a sogo) will she fit in a trike with me comfortably? It's really hard to know by just reviewing videos from the area.
If the answers are no, is my next best option booking a Grab through the mobile App? I realize that on Walking Street in Angeles, getting a Grab during peak hours means moving to a nearby, parallel street. That seems doable.
Finally, if I use Grab am I better off paying through the App or should I wait to negotiate with the driver and pay cash.
Thanks again for any insights you can provide.[/QUOTE]You will not fit in a trike. Don't even try it. Even if you are able to get in you will wrench your back getting out. If you sit sidesaddle behind the driver you have the chance of falling off.
In AC you can hail a Blue Taxi.
Btw, in AC you might contact Beeway Travel to see if they have a SUV available for you and what the cost might be. You can travel with them from Manila to AC and back.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2775961]You will not fit in a trike. Don't even try it. Even if you are able to get in you will wrench your back getting out. If you sit sidesaddle behind the driver you have the chance of falling off.
In AC you can hail a Blue Taxi.
Btw, in AC you might contact Beeway Travel to see if they have a SUV available for you and what the cost might be. You can travel with them from Manila to AC and back.[/QUOTE]This is all good advice. Grab and taxis are available in AC.
I used BeeWay both coming and going to AC a few months back. P3500 each way, paid to the driver at the end of the trip. Competent, professional drivers, who both had known the destination locations and directions prior to picking me up. I tell them to keep the radio off and I want it quiet in the vehicle. That way I can concentrate on my phone, or sleep in the back seat if needed. Comfortable 90-minute rides. Sunday is still the best day for light traffic.
BTW, I think Grab now has a similar feature when ordering a vehicle for transport. "Quiet Ride", "Silent Ride", or such. You can communicate it to your driver in advance of his picking you up. It means you want it quiet in the vehicle during your entire ride.
Well, looks like I haven't posted anything in a while. NY Eve was filled with food, grog, friends, music, happy pina, and fireworks. A warm, wonderful evening. The next morning wasn't so bad either; a great way to ring in the new year. So many future possibilities here. Use your imagination.
A quick help from the experts here. Is Visa on arrival still applicable for Indians who have a valid US travel Visa? I see some discussions around this 6-7 months back and I am fairly confident. However, I still want to make sure I do my due diligence.
Thanks in advance for all the help.
Some Airbnb prices, for the month of January. Also non-descript listing descriptions. In general, small (16 M, SM Green Residences) lower-end places are $500+. Older and mid-sized studios at Birch Tower and Citadel are $650-$900-ish. And Knightsbridge / Gramercy studios are $900+ (saw some at $1700) per month. Add 10% for the airbnb service fee. Owners are also less likely to actually reply to questions (or reply days after you asked). A seller's market.
Pics 1-3: Nearly blank descriptions.
Pics 4-6: Robinson's Malate, Birch Tower, Adriatico / Faura, Mabini.
Pics 7-8: Makati, Knightsbridge, Gramercy.
Pic 9: Jazz Residence Makati (Jazz Mall).
Pic 10: MOA, Shore Residences.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2775986] BTW, I think Grab now has a similar feature when ordering a vehicle for transport. "Quiet Ride", "Silent Ride", or such. You can communicate it to your driver in advance of his picking you up. It means you want it quiet in the vehicle during your entire ride.[/QUOTE]Can I request chipmunk Partridge in a Pear Tree and Santa Claus is coming to town in a continuous loop?
[QUOTE=Sam14;2776133]Can I request chipmunk Partridge in a Pear Tree and Santa Claus is coming to town in a continuous loop?[/QUOTE]I like the feature. How many times have you slid into a pinoy taxi and had to listen to the driver's music -- at his volume?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2775986]This is all good advice. Grab and taxis are available in AC.
I used BeeWay both coming and going to AC a few months back. P3500 each way, paid to the driver at the end of the trip. Competent, professional drivers, who both had known the destination locations and directions prior to picking me up. I tell them to keep the radio off and I want it quiet in the vehicle. That way I can concentrate on my phone, or sleep in the back seat if needed. Comfortable 90-minute rides. Sunday is still the best day for light traffic.
BTW, I think Grab now has a similar feature when ordering a vehicle for transport. "Quiet Ride", "Silent Ride", or such. You can communicate it to your driver in advance of his picking you up. It means you want it quiet in the vehicle during your entire ride.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for your info and advice. I will plan on using Grab or local Taxi's (White in Manila? And Blue in AC?) as my go-to. But I'll try a trike early just to confirm it's a poor choice for me. LOL.
As to your location suggestions, I'm all over that: In Manila I'm staying one block from LA Cafe in Ermita, and when I return after a week in AC I'll be across the street from Filling Station (you guessed it-Makati Palace). In AC I'll be at ABC for 7 nights. It should be easy to get Grab's or Taxi's there and back.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2776131]
Pic 10: MOA, Shore Residences.[/QUOTE]Recently stayed 3 nights in this area. The AirBNB was a new unit, I was the third BNB client. Because it was a brand new residence there was zero vibe on the street as they had demolished everything. Taxi GPS would never find it as it didn't exist.
Contrast this to the AirBNB I had in Makati which was an older building but the actual apartment was refurbished and nice. Lots of amenities directly in the area.
Surprisingly the price was about the same.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2776181]Thanks all for your info and advice. I will plan on using Grab or local Taxi's (White in Manila? And Blue in AC?) as my go-to. But I'll try a trike early just to confirm it's a poor choice for me. LOL.
As to your location suggestions, I'm all over that: In Manila I'm staying one block from LA Cafe in Ermita, and when I return after a week in AC I'll be across the street from Filling Station (you guessed it-Makati Palace). In AC I'll be at ABC for 7 nights. It should be easy to get Grab's or Taxi's there and back.
Thanks![/QUOTE]FYI. ABC has a car service available on call. A little more expensive but they do use a small SUV which is easlier to get in and out of than a compact car.
[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2776075]A quick help from the experts here. Is Visa on arrival still applicable for Indians who have a valid US travel Visa? I see some discussions around this 6-7 months back and I am fairly confident. However, I still want to make sure I do my due diligence.
Thanks in advance for all the help.[/QUOTE]US travel visa means nothing for PH entry. What matters is the issuing Country of your passport. Due deligence would require you to search the proper sites with the proper information to obtain the necessary requirements.
You are welcome.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2776137]I like the feature. How many times have you slid into a pinoy taxi and had to listen to the driver's music -- at his volume?[/QUOTE]WestCoast1 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2776241]WestCoast1 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.[/QUOTE]Damn that guy! I have to routinely talk to him about this.
[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2776075]A quick help from the experts here. Is Visa on arrival still applicable for Indians who have a valid US travel Visa? I see some discussions around this 6-7 months back and I am fairly confident. However, I still want to make sure I do my due diligence.
Thanks in advance for all the help.[/QUOTE]Hi brother,
Yes we do have Visa free access to the Philippines if we have US visa. Just landed here this week, I travelled with US visa as well, absolutely no issues.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2776181]Thanks all for your info and advice. I will plan on using Grab or local Taxi's (White in Manila? And Blue in AC?) as my go-to. But I'll try a trike early just to confirm it's a poor choice for me. LOL.
As to your location suggestions, I'm all over that: In Manila I'm staying one block from LA Cafe in Ermita, and when I return after a week in AC I'll be across the street from Filling Station (you guessed it-Makati Palace). In AC I'll be at ABC for 7 nights. It should be easy to get Grab's or Taxi's there and back.
Thanks![/QUOTE]I just found out if you email ABC Hotel for reservations they will give you a better rate than online booking sites including their own. [EMAIL]info@abchotelgroup.com
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2776239]US travel visa means nothing for PH entry. What matters is the issuing Country of your passport. Due deligence would require you to search the proper sites with the proper information to obtain the necessary requirements.
You are welcome.[/QUOTE]Did you just get owned by RampageMan or what. How 'about givin' him a big and 'diligence' due. Thank You.
[QUOTE=CoolDumble;2776075]A quick help from the experts here. Is Visa on arrival still applicable for Indians who have a valid US travel Visa? I see some discussions around this 6-7 months back and I am fairly confident. However, I still want to make sure I do my due diligence.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RampageMan;2776471]Hi brother, Yes we do have Visa free access to the Philippines if we have US visa. Just landed here this week, I travelled with US visa as well, absolutely no issues.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2776239]US travel visa means nothing for PH entry. What matters is the issuing Country of your passport. Due deligence would require you to search the proper sites with the proper information to obtain the necessary requirements.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2777035]Did you just get owned by RampageMan or what. How 'about givin' him a big and 'diligence' due. Thank You.[/QUOTE]I am with DG on this. Is CD talking about getting into Phils VOA because he is an Indian passport holder who happens to have a valid US Travel visa? If so, RPM's response does not necessarily answer the OP's question. Its possible that RPM was allowed into Phils simply because he has a valid Indian passport; or alternately he was allowed in because he had a US travel visa. Its just not clear yet.
CD, do report back later your inbound entry status.
[QUOTE=RampageMan;2776471]Hi brother,
Yes we do have Visa free access to the Philippines if we have US visa. Just landed here this week, I travelled with US visa as well, absolutely no issues.[/QUOTE]A good source of guidance is the Philippine Embassy.
FAQ 7: I am an Indian national, but I have a valid American, Japanese, Australian, Canadian, Schengen, Singapore or UK (AJACSSUK) visa / residency. Can I enter the Philippines visa-free for tourism?
Indian nationals with valid AJACSSUK visas travelling for tourism or leisure may enter the Philippines visa-free for a maximum period of stay of fourteen (14) days. This is NOT applicable for business travellers. Business travelers are required to secure appropriate visas.
[URL]https://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/consular/visa/faqs-travel-to-the-philippines-of-foreign-nationals/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2777035]Did you just get owned by RampageMan or what. How 'about givin' him a big and 'diligence' due. Thank You.[/QUOTE]No I did not. Why don't you give him the answer? Because you don't have the pertinent information to give some valid advice. A simple search shows an Indian passport holder is not entitled to VOA in PH. He does not state the country of his passport.
The worst thing is to provide bad information on bad information. Which could have him land in PH and being turned back.
ISG is riddled with bad advice based on limited or nonexistent input. Example. One poster said from all his experiences all PH girls have big pussies! That is meaningless unless he states his penis size! I have small penis but from my experiences I have found some pretty tight PH pussies.
My apologies if I can't provide any due diligence based on inadequate input. Then again that wouldn't be any proper due diligence.
NAIA taxi scam gone seriously outrageous.
Here is my last two experiences. I landed Manila on 18 January, 11.30 pm, from bkk at NAIA 2. My dating site girl was waiting for me. I found a guy roaming around her and trying to lead us to a taxi. I was already experienced about the taxi scam, I ignored him and try to fetch a running taxi other side of the road. I asked him if he can go by meter he nodded yes. We jump in but he parked the taxi in front of a counter and the same guy talked with my girl in Tagalog informing we have to pay 1200 peso for taft ave MRT station. OMG I Just jumped out from the taxi and rejected furiously. In the end we found a Meter Taxi and we paid 150 Peso for Kabayan Hotel.
The next one is I arrived at NAIA 3 from Cebu at 1. 15 am. Same as before my another girl was waiting for me. We went to regular taxi stand in a long que. Once we ride I asked the driver is it running on meter or not. He says yes and shown digital board and definitely it was not running meter. In the digital board it was displaying number of 500.01 and he mentioned it is the charge. Oh my my, I asked him to stop the car and we are not going with him. Finally after long bargain I paid 300 peso for same place where as I paid half of that before for the same place.
[QUOTE=MuaTur;2777581]NAIA taxi scam gone seriously outrageous.
Here is my last two experiences. I landed Manila on 18 January, 11.30 pm, from bkk at NAIA 2. My dating site girl was waiting for me. I found a guy roaming around her and trying to lead us to a taxi. [/QUOTE]MT: Timeframe might be useful here. January 18 of what year?
If pre-covid, this is a not-unusual scam at NAIA. Sad, but true.
January of 2022 was part of the gasoline price run-up, and taxi scams (overcharges, failure to run the meter on purpose, charging in advance) were quite prevalent as there was a shortage of drivers and taxis (many drivers stopped working, as the increased fuel prices in conjunction with the failure of the LTFRB to increase rates made the trade not profitable). There were lots of angry and scamming taxi drivers in the NCR thru about August of 2022.
Thanks for reporting. Was your Cebu incident recent?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2777885]MT: Timeframe might be useful here. January 18 of what year?
If pre-covid, this is a not-unusual scam at NAIA. Sad, but true.
January of 2022 was part of the gasoline price run-up, and taxi scams (overcharges, failure to run the meter on purpose, charging in advance) were quite prevalent as there was a shortage of drivers and taxis (many drivers stopped working, as the increased fuel prices in conjunction with the failure of the LTFRB to increase rates made the trade not profitable). There were lots of angry and scamming taxi drivers in the NCR thru about August of 2022.
Thanks for reporting. Was your Cebu incident recent?[/QUOTE]There are taxi scams all the time. Irrespective of whether meter taxi or otherwise. Mostly depends on what kind of driver you get. My experience in October is 50-50. Almost all do not turn the meter on immediately. Need to be reminded. I generally pay little more than the meter. Lots of sob stories I hear from drivers hoping for extra money. Couple even offered girls.
Domestic airport I believe No. 4. Has two lines. One says meter taxi. Other one no sign. Waited in the meter taxi line to see lots of taxis did not stop at the meter line but went to the other side. Caught on and moved to the other side which moved fast. Driver said that was flat rate line. Who knows? When gave him 1000 note he did not want to give me the change. Usually to new coast hotel it is less than 400. Ultimately he agreed for 500.
So we foreigners will be duped one way or another.
Cebu on the other hand if you get in line at the correct meter taxi line they were honest.
Tips- although you are tired after a long flight and need to get to the hotel quickly search for correct meter taxi line. Just like us locals who are from other provinces get duped as well. Many asked me which one is the real meter taxi line.
I do not know why airport authority do not make better transportation service. That is an argument for another day.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959]There are taxi scams all the time. Irrespective of whether meter taxi or otherwise. Mostly depends on what kind of driver you get. My experience in October is 50-50. Almost all do not turn the meter on immediately. Need to be reminded. I generally pay little more than the meter. Lots of sob stories I hear from drivers hoping for extra money. Couple even offered girls.
Domestic airport I believe No. 4. Has two lines. One says meter taxi. Other one no sign. Waited in the meter taxi line to see lots of taxis did not stop at the meter line but went to the other side. Caught on and moved to the other side which moved fast. Driver said that was flat rate line. Who knows? When gave him 1000 note he did not want to give me the change. Usually to new coast hotel it is less than 400. Ultimately he agreed for 500.
So we foreigners will be duped one way or another.
Cebu on the other hand if you get in line at the correct meter taxi line they were honest.
Tips- although you are tired after a long flight and need to get to the hotel quickly search for correct meter taxi line. Just like us locals who are from other provinces get duped as well. Many asked me which one is the real meter taxi line.
I do not know why airport authority do not make better transportation service. That is an argument for another day.[/QUOTE]The way I see it, my time is valuable. If push comes to shove, I'll pay a premium to get fast service rather than wasting my time to save a couple of bucks on a meter taxi or Grab, within reason. After all, here in the US, I pay a taxi almost 50 dollars each way for a ride to the airport.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2777885]MT: Timeframe might be useful here. January 18 of what year?
If pre-covid, this is a not-unusual scam at NAIA. Sad, but true.
January of 2022 was part of the gasoline price run-up, and taxi scams (overcharges, failure to run the meter on purpose, charging in advance) were quite prevalent as there was a shortage of drivers and taxis (many drivers stopped working, as the increased fuel prices in conjunction with the failure of the LTFRB to increase rates made the trade not profitable). There were lots of angry and scamming taxi drivers in the NCR thru about August of 2022.[/QUOTE]Apology for late reply because I back to BKK again on 7th January.
Apology again to make mistake it is not January 18. IT IS December 18,2022. So It is after COVID. FUEL price inflammation may not apply these days. The bitter fact is, I always faced taxi scam at NAIA. I wish the authority will make sense on this issue to make PHILIPINE tourist friendly.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2777885]Thanks for reporting. Was your Cebu incident recent?[/QUOTE]Yes it is recent. I spent 31st Dec'22 Night at Bacolod City. I back to Manila via Cebu on 4th January.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959]There are taxi scams all the time. Irrespective of whether meter taxi or otherwise.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959]Domestic airport I believe No. 4. Has two lines. One says meter taxi. Other one no sign. Waited in the meter taxi line to see lots of taxis did not stop at the meter line but went to the other side. [/QUOTE]There are always some Taxi meter available, just need patience and a little effort. But in greater interest of Phil economy the Airport should be cleaned from all kind of scams. Neighbor countries of Phil we will not find that. Even BKK is full furnished with all kind of options. Very laid back for tourist.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959]So we foreigners will be duped one way or another.[/QUOTE]It's always accepted if we pay a little more than usual. But we should know what's we paying and what for, not to be lied or scammed.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959] Cebu on the other hand if you get in line at the correct meter taxi line they were honest.[/QUOTE]Cebu is much much better than NAIA. Here have two Taxi line like regular Taxi meter and another is PREMIER. It's on us what we choose.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2777959]Tips- although you are tired after a long flight and need to get to the hotel quickly search for correct meter taxi line. Just like us locals who are from other provinces get duped as well. Many asked me which one is the real meter taxi line.
I do not know why airport authority do not make better transportation service. That is an argument for another day.[/QUOTE]God bless Philippine.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2777976]The way I see it, my time is valuable. If push comes to shove, I'll pay a premium to get fast service rather than wasting my time to save a couple of bucks on a meter taxi or Grab, within reason.[/QUOTE]I use Cebu airport as a good airport for comparison. Coming out of Arrivals towards Taxi you are met int ihs order:
A) Fixed price city hotel transfers. These guys have clipboards naming each major hotel and a fixed price. Usually operate nicer vans.
B) Freelancer fixed price touts.
C) Yellow cab rank. More expensive rates and new cars.
D) Premium cabs, still expensive but larger vehicles.
E) White cabs. Cheap and cheerful. Aircon may or may not be working.
I remember one day seeing a young tourist couple getting into a Yellow cab while I was getting into a white one. They arrived to the same hotel 15 minutes after I checked in. Premium I snot always faster in Ph.
I always use white cabs from the rank in Cebu. They are told to use the meter by the airport dispatcher. I always tip them generously ie P100 on top of meter.
Gents, a great morning in Phils! Last night's honey did me proud in the rack this morning. She's in the kitchen in her panties. The rice is made, the coffee is flowing. She's got a couple of eggs cracked in the frying pan and she's whipping some pancake batter. All while my swimmers are zigging and zagging to and fro inside her. Few things beat the view of a nearly naked booby pina standing at arm's length from the hot frying pan with a spatula in her hand, trying to avoid the hot oil splatter from frying SSU eggs. We'll hit the grocery store after breakfast before the mall gets busy, then have round 2.
Please, please. Just because Covid appears to be past us, don't inject that into the local psyche here. The vaxxing continues.
Pic from the archives.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778549]Gents, a great morning in Phils! Last night's honey did me proud in the rack this morning. She's in the kitchen in her panties. The rice is made, the coffee is flowing. She's got a couple of eggs cracked in the frying pan and she's whipping some pancake batter..[/QUOTE]That's the part you don't see people working into their 'cost justification' for travelling to Ph. The right girls are welcome to stay. Can I also assume that all your clothes have been folded? And if they were already folded before maybe she has refolded them just to be sure.
Enjoy the Mall.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2778556]The right girls are welcome to stay. Can I also assume that all your clothes have been folded? And if they were already folded before maybe she has refolded them just to be sure.[/QUOTE]I have several regulars here who usually rotate. They all know each other. Gemma departs on a Monday morning after the joy, making breakfast, and straightening up the place. Lyn arrives in the early afternoon. "Gemma was here today?" Yes, why do you say that? "Because the silverware its now in the drawer near the sink. Its how they do it to her house". I see. Sometime after the round, Lyn puts the silverware back in the original drawer where Alma put it when I first moved in. Then Lynn goes home. I have a rest night and also the following day Tuesday, no girls. Wednesday afternoon Alma shows up. "Lyn was here". How do you know? "Your shirts are on the hangar. Not buttoned. They should be buttoned. She never button the clothes. I will button for you". Thanks sweetie, you're the best. Its good that Lyn f*cks like a horse. "Westy you are not a funny guy".
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778601]...Thanks sweetie, you're the best. Its good that Lyn f*cks like a horse. "Westy you are not a funny guy".[/QUOTE]Brought back many fond memories. Years and years ago the town bike was nicknamed Horse. Newcomers unkindly said it was because she had a head like one. Old timers would smile and politely nod, knowing that it really came from her stamina over the last furlong.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778601]I have several regulars here who usually rotate. They all know each other. Gemma departs on a Monday morning after the joy, making breakfast, and straightening up the place. Lyn arrives in the early afternoon. "Gemma was here today?" Yes, why do you say that? "Because the silverware its now in the drawer near the sink. Its how they do it to her house". I see. Sometime after the round, Lyn puts the silverware back in the original drawer where Alma put it when I first moved in. Then Lynn goes home. I have a rest night and also the following day Tuesday, no girls. Wednesday afternoon Alma shows up. "Lyn was here". How do you know? "Your shirts are on the hangar. Not buttoned. They should be buttoned. She never button the clothes. I will button for you". Thanks sweetie, you're the best. Its good that Lyn f*cks like a horse. "Westy you are not a funny guy".[/QUOTE]Westy,
You are living in your own heaven in Philippines. Keep it always UP!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778601]I have several regulars here who usually rotate. They all know each other. Gemma departs on a Monday morning after the joy, making breakfast, and straightening up the place. Lyn arrives in the early afternoon. "Gemma was here today?" Yes, why do you say that? "Because the silverware its now in the drawer near the sink. It’s how they do it to her house". I see. Sometime after the round, Lyn puts the silverware back in the original drawer where Alma put it when I first moved in. Then Lynn goes home. I have a rest night and also the following day Tuesday, no girls. Wednesday afternoon Alma shows up. "Lyn was here". How do you know? "Your shirts are on the hangar. Not buttoned. They should be buttoned. She never button the clothes. I will button for you". Thanks sweetie, you're the best. It’s good that Lyn f*cks like a horse. "Westy you are not a funny guy".[/QUOTE]That's quite surprising. In my experience, most Filipinas are ferociously jealous and possessive. They at least want some plausible deniability to maintain the illusion that they're the "only one. ".
[QUOTE=Sammon;2778655]Westy,
You are living in your own heaven in Philippines. Keep it always UP![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2778664]That's quite surprising. In my experience, most Filipinas are ferociously jealous and possessive. They at least want some plausible deniability to maintain the illusion that they're the "only one. ".[/QUOTE]Generally you are both correct. But my girls are mini-mamasans and business minded. There is no romance going on. They have lives far outside their time with me. They all get on quite well. Shame that I must put up with it.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778669]Generally you are both correct. But my girls are mini-mamasans and business minded. There is no romance going on. They have lives far outside their time with me. They all get on quite well. Shame that I must put up with it.[/QUOTE]Admittedly, I'm a bit of a heal. I have one gorgeous girlfriend who I visit and spend time with about every two months, for about 2. 5 weeks on each trip. I take her to Bohol, Cebu, or wherever, then send her back to her province near Surigao City. Next month, I'm taking her to Boracay. She's totally devoted to me, only 20 years old. But then I like a little time on my own for a bit of mongering before returning to the US. As tempted as I am to marry my girl and bring her to the US, I know from experience that she would become Americanized and ruined by US culture, another self-centered rotten skank like the rest of them. So, I'll just maintain the status quo until, one day, I'm able to retire in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778669]Generally you are both correct. But my girls are mini-mamasans and business minded. There is no romance going on. They have lives far outside their time with me. They all get on quite well. Shame that I must put up with it.[/QUOTE]Another argument for being honest with the girls.
If the guy says he isn't in another relationship, loves only her, never sees other girls etc etc then she has grounds to make a scene. Real or pretend doesn't matter, it's just a way of gaining the upper hand over the guy.
If the guy is straight with everyone and makes it known that he's only there for a good time and that the girl (s) are facilitating that, then she knows that causing trouble will see her out the door rather than moved up the rankings, paid more etc.
I'd agree that there is no need to insult girls or rub their noses in it but lying is normally counter productive. This is where plausible denial comes in: don't ask, don't tell. 😊.
I've never understood paying girls to then put up with tanpo, tantrums and other Jedi mind games.
Just my 2 see.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2778787]Another argument for being honest with the girls.
If the guy says he isn't in another relationship, loves only her, never sees other girls etc etc then she has grounds to make a scene. Real or pretend doesn't matter, it's just a way of gaining the upper hand over the guy.
If the guy is straight with everyone and makes it known that he's only there for a good time and that the girl (s) are facilitating that, then she knows that causing trouble will see her out the door rather than moved up the rankings, paid more etc.
I'd agree that there is no need to insult girls or rub their noses in it but lying is normally counter productive. This is where plausible denial comes in: don't ask, don't tell. 😊.
I've never understood paying girls to then put up with tanpo, tantrums and other Jedi mind games.
Just my 2 see.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]In my experience, complete disclosure and honesty with these girls limits the quality of girls available. The really low mileage, inexperienced ones will avoid guys that they see as a player. I don't lie to girls or make promises like marriage, etc. I simply tell them that I'm open to anything, and that I've been burned in the past, so I want to be careful before making any commitments. Then, they are motivated to do everything possible to win my heart. I don't consider this dishonest because, truth be told, I suppose that is a possibility, but they don't need to know everything.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778549]Please, please. Just because Covid appears to be past us, don't inject that into the local psyche here. The vaxxing continues.[/QUOTE]You are a selfless soldier in the fight against covid, Westy. When honors are awarded for Asian storm troopers against this scourge, you will be brought to your knees by the weight of your medals.
Reinforcements on the way: I will return to support you in your quest in a few months.
[QUOTE=PolyOrchid;2779660]You are a selfless soldier in the fight against covid, Westy. When honors are awarded for Asian storm troopers against this scourge, you will be brought to your knees by the weight of your medals.
Reinforcements on the way: I will return to support you in your quest in a few months.[/QUOTE]Excellent good sir. I would like to be able to take a break from my vaxxing duties. It often keeps me up thru the nights. Short, 15-minute bursts of excited vaccinations, around 2 am. It is EXHAUSTING! Finally some reinforcement is on its way from the mainland (s). Its possible that I might be able to get some rest at that time. Until then, I am on full 'vax-forward' and remain here in the salt mines.
On another note, from a domestic CP flight recently, the pic. The breakdown of the fare, including the p200 Domestic Passenger charge built into the final price of the ticket.
One taken for the team. Drunken, indiscriminate porkin' and vaxxin'.
Stay away from Empirador. "Empirador: The devil's brew, turning 8's into 2's, nights and mornings". And "Empirador: The darkest shade of rose-colored glasses".
Less than 2 months before I saddle up my business class seat at LAX and I think I have my ducks in a row. If you've read my past posts, where I ask a shit-ton of questions and gratefully receive your well-informed answers, you probably noticed that I am a serious planner. Like way too serious a planner. Like OCD-level planning. So, as I said, I think I'm ready to go and start blowing off my plans about 1 hour after I land. LOL.
Now I'm just spending my time reading posts, watching YouTube vlogs (Oh my! These vloggers are all over the place about the PI! Most are more amusing than informative.), and I find myself wondering about things I certainly cannot control, and so I certainly need to just deal with and have a good time as I plough into all the fun. Here's my current bit of wonderment:
What is the typical status of the downstairs landscape for the women I'm looking to meet?
Should I expect to see dense forests, well-trimmed landing strips, or bare fields of tasty brown and pink?
Does the style-de-jour vary between bar girls, freelancers, and massage girls?
So that's where I am. Is it too soon to start packing? LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2784133]What is the typical status of the downstairs landscape for the women I'm looking to meet?
Should I expect to see dense forests, well-trimmed landing strips, or bare fields of tasty brown and pink?
Does the style-de-jour vary between bar girls, freelancers, and massage girls?[/QUOTE]Where are you meeting these girls? Any working girl banging 10+ foreigners a week will be smoother than a cue ball. The retail assistant helping you buy some socks will be au natural.
Pinas are naturally less hairy so you are never going to find an Amazonian jungle on any girl. Requests to arrive freshly shaven are typically accepted.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2784151]Where are you meeting these girls? Any working girl banging 10+ foreigners a week will be smoother than a cue ball. The retail assistant helping you buy some socks will be au natural.
Pinas are naturally less hairy so you are never going to find an Amazonian jungle on any girl. Requests to arrive freshly shaven are typically accepted.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons I prefer to put in the effort with low mileage province girls is that they are more likely to be unshaven. I personally find a shaved twat to be somewhat of a turnoff. I'm old school. I like au naturale.
I just got back this past Sunday. I originally was going to Manila and Angeles city but after reading Beavis excellent recap on bars in Subics, I changed my plan. I had nine nights and this is how I used them. 1st night in Manila to get acclimated so didn't go out. Next three nights in Subic. Then three nights in Angeles and the final two nights in Manila. The last two nights I spent just relaxing, eating like a pig and gambling a lot. No playing around but still had a lot of fun.
Here's an example of the rising cost from pre-pandemic. I used a voucher from a cancel flight which amounted to $3,500.00 usd. That ticket was for lax-bkk-stopover in mnl, then back to lax. Business class. Then the pandemic hit. For this past flight just going from lax to mnl and back was around $4,500.00 business class. The voucher was only good until the end of January so barely made it.
This portion will be for newbies. If you are a USA Passport holder, all you need to enter the P. I. Is your passport, e-travel document which is very easy to fill out and your vaccination card or electronic proof. No need to fill out any paperwork on the plane. They scan your e-travel (green) then to immigration which took about a minute. They take a picture of you and they asked only one question. When do you depart. My suitcase came out fast and immigration was a breeze.
Hotels. I'll put in the proper section.
Transportation. Thanks to DG8787 for information about private transportation but because I changed my original plan, I took mostly public transportation. Here are some prices for Beeway Travel that I didn't use but might help someone who wants private transportation. Mnl to Angeles is P $3500. From Mnl to Subic is p $6500. These are door to door service. I took the victory liner from pasay to Olongapo whick took about 3 hours and 45 minutes. I used grab taxi when available but in Subic, there is no grab taxi. From the Olongapo terminal to my hotel in Barrio Barreto was P $300 in a suv taxi which was way better than using a trike. From Subic to Angeles I used the van service from the Thumbstar hotel. I believe they started this route not to long ago. The cost for the van was p $995 and took about an hour. You do need to make a reservation for this service. Almost forgot, this is not door to door but one of the stops is in front of Phillys restaurant. My hotel was the Central Park so got off there and basically a block and a half walk. Finally from Angeles to mnl I took the Genesis bus from sm clark to terminal 2. My hotel in mnl was the Okada so terminal 2 seem to be the closest terminal. The cost was p $410.
My plan was to have fun with the girls in Subic and Angeles so I'll put those reports in the proper section. In mnl I didn't want to mess with the traffic so decided to just relax, eat like a king and gamble like there's no tomorrow.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2787168]I just got back this past Sunday. I originally was going to Manila and Angeles city but after reading Beavis excellent recap on bars in Subics, I changed my plan. I had nine nights and this is how I used them. 1st night in Manila to get acclimated so didn't go out. Next three nights in Subic. Then three nights in Angeles and the final two nights in Manila. The last two nights I spent just relaxing, eating like a pig and gambling a lot. No playing around but still had a lot of fun.
Here's an example of the rising cost from pre-pandemic. I used a voucher from a cancel flight which amounted to $3,500.00 usd. That ticket was for lax-bkk-stopover in mnl, then back to lax. Business class. Then the pandemic hit. For this past flight just going from lax to mnl and back was around $4,500.00 business class. The voucher was only good until the end of January so barely made it.
This portion will be for newbies. If you are a USA Passport holder, all you need to enter the P. I. Is your passport, e-travel document which is very easy to fill out and your vaccination card or electronic proof. No need to fill out any paperwork on the plane. They scan your e-travel (green) then to immigration which took about a minute. They take a picture of you and they asked only one question. When do you depart. My suitcase came out fast and immigration was a breeze.
Hotels. I'll put in the proper section.
Transportation. Thanks to DG8787 for information about private transportation but because I changed my original plan, I took mostly public transportation. Here are some prices for Beeway Travel that I didn't use but might help someone who wants private transportation. Mnl to Angeles is P $3500. From Mnl to Subic is p $6500. These are door to door service. I took the victory liner from pasay to Olongapo whick took about 3 hours and 45 minutes. I used grab taxi when available but in Subic, there is no grab taxi. From the Olongapo terminal to my hotel in Barrio Barreto was P $300 in a suv taxi which was way better than using a trike. From Subic to Angeles I used the van service from the Thumbstar hotel. I believe they started this route not to long ago. The cost for the van was p $995 and took about an hour. You do need to make a reservation for this service. Almost forgot, this is not door to door but one of the stops is in front of Phillys restaurant. My hotel was the Central Park so got off there and basically a block and a half walk. Finally from Angeles to mnl I took the Genesis bus from sm clark to terminal 2. My hotel in mnl was the Okada so terminal 2 seem to be the closest terminal. The cost was p $410.
My plan was to have fun with the girls in Subic and Angeles so I'll put those reports in the proper section. In mnl I didn't want to mess with the traffic so decided to just relax, eat like a king and gamble like there's no tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Good recap, yes the Thumbstar Van is a great new addition. There is also the Angels Bakery van still but it leaves AC at 0700. It returns from Subic at 1400 though so in a pinch you could come down on the Thumbstar and go back on the Angels van.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2787168]
Here's an example of the rising cost from pre-pandemic. I used a voucher from a cancel flight which amounted to $3,500.00 usd. That ticket was for lax-bkk-stopover in mnl, then back to lax. Business class. Then the pandemic hit. For this past flight just going from lax to mnl and back was around $4,500.00 business class. The voucher was only good until the end of January so barely made it.
Hotels. I'll put in the proper section.
Transportation. Thanks to DG8787 for information about private transportation but because I changed my original plan, I took mostly public transportation. Here are some prices for Beeway Travel that I didn't use but might help someone who wants private transportation. Mnl to Angeles is P $3500. From Mnl to Subic is p $6500. These are door to door service. I took the victory liner from pasay to Olongapo whick took about 3 hours and 45 minutes. I used grab taxi when available but in Subic, there is no grab taxi. From the Olongapo terminal to my hotel in Barrio Barreto was P $300 in a suv taxi which was way better than using a trike. From Subic to Angeles I used the van service from the Thumbstar hotel. I believe they started this route not to long ago. The cost for the van was p $995 and took about an hour. You do need to make a reservation for this service. Almost forgot, this is not door to door but one of the stops is in front of Phillys restaurant. My hotel was the Central Park so got off there and basically a block and a half walk. Finally from Angeles to mnl I took the Genesis bus from sm clark to terminal 2. My hotel in mnl was the Okada so terminal 2 seem to be the closest terminal. The cost was p $410.
.[/QUOTE]So you were happy to fork over $4 k for a biz class ticket but the $150 for a comfortable ride from point to point was too much?
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2784133]What is the typical status of the downstairs landscape for the women I'm looking to meet? Should I expect to see dense forests, well-trimmed landing strips, or bare fields of tasty brown and pink? Does the style-de-jour vary between bar girls, freelancers, and massage girls?[/QUOTE]Not sure there is a good answer to this. City or province, bar girls or SW, there is always a mix. Sex workers are more likely to shave. Non-working gals tend to mix it up.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2784208]One of the reasons I prefer to put in the effort with low mileage province girls is that they are more likely to be unshaven. I personally find a shaved twat to be somewhat of a turnoff. I'm old school. I like au naturale.[/QUOTE]Au natural = free brown dental floss. A perk.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2787243]Not sure there is a good answer to this. City or province, bar girls or SW, there is always a mix. Sex workers are more likely to shave. Non-working gals tend to mix it up.
Au natural = free brown dental floss. A perk.[/QUOTE]I like the way a girl's unshaven Bush tickles my nose as I'm DATY 😜.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2787248]I like the way a girl's unshaven Bush tickles my nose as I'm DATY 😜.[/QUOTE]I agree, the Bush is the way to go. For one it makes them look like women and is sexy as hell, but that's just me. Why some guys liked shaved is a mystery. I just find it odd that you want a woman's pussy to look like a 9 year old girl. Really pissed me off on my last visit a regular who had a beautiful muff had shaved. WTF! What did you do? Oh yeah sorry about that, mamasun said I needed to shave and some customers complained. The plucked chicken look takes you about 30 seconds to achieve but I got to wait months to get my muffin back. Not shaving seems more rare in bar girls vs years ago. I agree more common in the province, to each his own I suppose.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2787225]So you were happy to fork over $4 k for a biz class ticket but the $150 for a comfortable ride from point to point was too much?[/QUOTE]There are benefits to using local-yokal transport. I've met many 19 yo goddesses in bemos, jeepneys etc on their way to buy a pound of carrots at the market. Even had a couple of bargirls say thanks for offering a free ride back to Manila after the public banca from Sabang.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2787225]So you were happy to fork over $4 k for a biz class ticket but the $150 for a comfortable ride from point to point was too much?[/QUOTE]Not sure what your point is. When I travel the adventure is part of the fun. Going on a bus with locals is part of the experience. Not sure but by your logic, I originally paid about $40.00 usd for my hotel in Subic but I paid more than $200.00 a night in mnl. Should I have paid more for the hotel in Subic to justify my hotel in mnl?
[QUOTE=QuackUp;2787437]Not sure what your point is. When I travel the adventure is part of the fun. Going on a bus with locals is part of the experience. Not sure but by your logic, I originally paid about $40.00 usd for my hotel in Subic but I paid more than $200.00 a night in mnl. Should I have paid more for the hotel in Subic to justify my hotel in mnl?[/QUOTE]Well by your own account your $40 subic hotel screwed you on the room, wouldn't allow you to even bring your own food in and didn't have housekeeping or an elevator. So you tell me. Maybe you should have paid a bit more.
Does anybody know the covid requirements for Filipinos traveling within country? Cebu Pacific website is not very clear. Is a 72 hour test required, or just show a vaccine record and wear a mask? Thanks all.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2790319]Does anybody know the covid requirements for Filipinos traveling within country? Cebu Pacific website is not very clear. Is a 72 hour test required, or just show a vaccine record and wear a mask? Thanks all.[/QUOTE]Within Philippines no restrictions. Very few wear masks. When you enter Philippines have to fill out new app application to get the barcode within 72 hours of arrival.
Go to the etravel website. Need to add the gov dot ph to the end. Just have the approval code ready when you land. They usually check / scan prior to reaching immigration.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2790319]Does anybody know the covid requirements for Filipinos traveling within country? Cebu Pacific website is not very clear. Is a 72 hour test required, or just show a vaccine record and wear a mask? Thanks all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JusRide;2790622]Go to the etravel website. Need to add the gov dot ph to the end. Just have the approval code ready when you land. They usually check / scan prior to reaching immigration.[/QUOTE]If you are fully vaxed it's real simple. Just go to the eTravel website and fill out the info. QR code comes back instantly. Just take a screenshot of it and present it at eTravel desk before you go to immigration booth at whichever PH international airport you land at.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2790319]Does anybody know the covid requirements for Filipinos traveling within country? Cebu Pacific website is not very clear. Is a 72 hour test required, or just show a vaccine record and wear a mask? Thanks all.[/QUOTE]Last 18th Dec'22 to 7th Jan'23, I was in Philippines. I got my boarding from Subarnabhum airport, bkk and the girl asked me if I have vaccination card or not. I answered yes even the booster dose too. I showed her and she said not for her I would be in need in immigration time at NAIA. But my surprise was NAIA immigration didn't asked a single word about COVID restrictions or even vaccine card. They just sealed and let me enter. These days most airport making finger scan and filling the immigration form is waved. The surprise was, NAIA still dose.
Happy Hunting.
Hey, I did something some of you have done and some of you have thought about doing, so thought I'the write a couple words about it: I took my Filipina GF to Thailand.
Why? Because I'm a chronic beach bum. And I love girls with brown skin. And my GF knows I love girls with brown skin so she'll do anything to please me, including baking her in ass the hot tropical sun. Why don't I just get a Filipina that's already black? I tried for 8 years, including traveling all over the Philippines. Filipinas aren't that dark in general; brown, not really dark brown. You see all these barangay kids that are almost black. But where are all the hot black girls by the time they hit the age of 18? They're there I suppose, just not in numbers. I rode my fuckin motorbike all the way to Laoag lookin for that stuff. That was a major pain in the ass. I guess there's some there but the city isn't livable for me. Why don't I find a country to live where the chicks are already black? Been to 19 countries searching a spot that checks off all the boxes. I dig Brazil but I'm too old and lazy and stupid to learn Portuguese.
More African countries are still on the to-do list. Was debating back-and-forth between The Gambia and Trinidad / Tobago for my next trip, but I lollygaged around so long that the Philippines finally lifted the last cOVID-1984 restrictions.
So there I was, sitting in Davao wondering how I managed to live there for almost 8 years. Bon Apptit is gone. Mia Figlia is gone. Claude's is gone. The gaggles of hot teenagers in Gmall are still there (18+ you freak). But the ones I'm looking at, I can't really get. The thing that isn't gone is all the diesel smoke. And the traffic is probably worse. So it's no easier getting to Samal, which was never a fun task anyway.
Anyhow, I thought getting her out of the country would be a breeze since our story is legit, and my friend did it without a problem. But I didn't have enough old pictures of us because I left my hard drive at home and the trip was an afterthought. Was insane, they split us off in two separate directions. I was able to go around and meet her in the Filipino interview area in NAIA. Our flight was Davao-Bkk, connecting in terminal 2 on PAL. I chose a flight with a 3 1/2 hour connecting time to be safe. There were no lines; our bags were checked all the way through; connection was easy and hassle free. But we barely made it to the gate as the flight was boarding because we got grilled so hard during the interview. I had to sign my life away promising to bring her back. And on return they asked me who I was traveling with, like they already knew.
Anyhow, Koh Samui was Heaven on Earth when I discovered it first in 1999. Now it's Koh Farang. Island Guava (White skin). They accomplish their goal. They turned the place from a backpacker haven, and Horny monger Paradise into a world class tourist destination. I hate when they clean up a good town. We checked all the bars repeatedly for a month, and I wouldn't go there for the pussy. But I already decided that 15 years ago anyway. To be honest, we walked Soi Cowboy every night we were in Bkk, and strolled through every gogo club in Nana Plaza, even had drinks and hung out in some of them. Maybe my taste has changed. But what I saw was a bunch of tall white chicks with colored hair, and mostly covered in tattoos. Im not saying I didnt see any crackin butts. But to each his own I guess, Id have a hard time finding someone to barfine, especially at the price they were fetching.
Beaches on Samui are still good, just crowded at the main spots. Beautiful island, great for exploring. Came up on three fresh motorcycle crashes with pools of blood and motionless victims. Drive slowly if you rent a murderbike.
Was it worth it? Probably considering the money of all the flights, much higher rent, the weather wasn't that great, and all the hassle of everything, probably not.
I'd take my trim to Bantayan or Comotes or somewhere else in the Philippines if I had it to do again. But glad we went, no regrets. And she loved being in a real country; Bangkok, and the sand beaches blew her mind.
I'm almost ready to fly. But now seeing reports of increased phone snatching and I want to get a burner phone I won't mind losing.
I'll keep my US-based iPhone 13 Pro on Verizon hidden with a 10 GB eSim activated for the Philippines and use it for any family / work needs only while I'm in a safe place like my hotel room.
But when I'm out and meeting girls & perhaps fellow hobbyists I want to use a cheap phone for:
1. WhatsApp, text, and other message and dating apps like DIA, PL, smooci, etc.
2. Some selfie pics while out and about, and while indoors with a girl (with her permission of course).
3. Google maps, grab, translator, GCash, etc.
If I need to make a call using cellular, I'll use my regular phone.
So looking at Amazon, it's hard to find a specific model that I know will work. I think I need the following features:
1. Unlocked, global smartphone.
2. Dual or single sim. I plan on buying a Globe SIM at the MNL airport.
3. Decent camera.
4. Decent amount of memory. Say at least 4 GB built-in for apps, and a MicroSD slot for a memory card.
5. Decent size screen.
I'm looking at a refurb. Samsung Galaxy A12 from Amazon for $109.
([URL]https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-A12-Unlocked-T-Mobile/dp/B0991J62ZY/ref=sr_1_18?crid=3DBDJYZIL7TKR&keywords=unlocked%2Bphone%2Bphilippines%2B%2B%2Bverizon&qid=1677284088&rnid=17881854011&s=wireless&sprefix=unlocked%2Bphone%2Bphilippines%2B%2B%2Bverizon%2Caps%2C165&sr=1-18&th=1[/URL]).
Anyone know this phone model? Will it do what I need? Or can you tell me what you use, approximate cost and, if you are happy with it?
Thanks for all your help and feedback.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2792763]I'm almost ready to fly. But now seeing reports of increased phone snatching and I want to get a burner phone I won't mind losing.
Thanks for all your help and feedback.[/QUOTE]Would you consider just using your iphone with a local globe SIM? Is it unlocked?
Use Whatsapp Business which you can have installed along side your 'real" whatsapp.
Just install you other apps.
Back in my iPhone 4's days I had a complete backup which I made when I departed Ph and reinstalled that when I arrived next time. Then when I departed Ph, restored my home country backup. Not so easy now as our installs are so bloated.
The refurb Samsung Galaxy A12 from Amazon for $109 sounds good. Just make absolutely sure it is unlocked. Try it with a cheap SIM in the USA before you depart.
Also, no need to rush to get the SIM at arrival. They have a queue, are slow to serve, they charge extra and usually sell a minimum P500 load. A globe SIM can be picked up outside the airport for P50 then a P90 promo for a week is all you need. But small beer when you have travelled all this way. Also, remember initially you can be tethering your burner phone to your iPhone which will get you in contact for Grab, girls etc.
In 12 years of regular ravel to Ph I have not had my iPhone stolen. I just keep it in my front pants pocket. I'm also prepared to hand it over to anyone that wants to rob me.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2792763]I'm almost ready to fly. But now seeing reports of increased phone snatching and I want to get a burner phone I won't mind losing.
I'll keep my US-based iPhone 13 Pro on Verizon hidden with a 10 GB eSim activated for the Philippines and use it for any family / work needs only while I'm in a safe place like my hotel room.
But when I'm out and meeting girls & perhaps fellow hobbyists I want to use a cheap phone for:
1. WhatsApp, text, and other message and dating apps like DIA, PL, smooci, etc.
2. Some selfie pics while out and about, and while indoors with a girl (with her permission of course).
3. Google maps, grab, translator, GCash, etc.
If I need to make a call using cellular, I'll use my regular phone.
So looking at Amazon, it's hard to find a specific model that I know will work. I think I need the following features:
1. Unlocked, global smartphone.
2. Dual or single sim. I plan on buying a Globe SIM at the MNL airport.
3. Decent camera.
4. Decent amount of memory. Say at least 4 GB built-in for apps, and a MicroSD slot for a memory card.
5. Decent size screen.
I'm looking at a refurb. Samsung Galaxy A12 from Amazon for $109.
([URL]https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-A12-Unlocked-T-Mobile/dp/B0991J62ZY/ref=sr_1_18?crid=3DBDJYZIL7TKR&keywords=unlocked%2Bphone%2Bphilippines%2B%2B%2Bverizon&qid=1677284088&rnid=17881854011&s=wireless&sprefix=unlocked%2Bphone%2Bphilippines%2B%2B%2Bverizon%2Caps%2C165&sr=1-18&th=1[/URL]).
Anyone know this phone model? Will it do what I need? Or can you tell me what you use, approximate cost and, if you are happy with it?
Thanks for all your help and feedback.[/QUOTE]IMO, you are better off with Moto unlocked cell phone. Make sure CP is on the GSM network. Amazon has a Moto e40 dual SIM for $139. I recommend that one.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2792790]IMO, you are better off with Moto unlocked cell phone. Make sure CP is on the GSM network. Amazon has a Moto e40 dual SIM for $139. I recommend that one.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Just ordered the e40 from Amazon.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2792790]IMO, you are better off with Moto unlocked cell phone. Make sure CP is on the GSM network. Amazon has a Moto e40 dual SIM for $139. I recommend that one.[/QUOTE]I simply purchased a used, unlocked iPhone 6 on eBay for $40 before traveling. It worked like a charm.
RG.
Some good news. It would appear that Musk's satellite Internet service is available anywhere in Phils. The article says $500 USD (p25000) to purchase the equipment, and $50 / month (p2500) thereafter, gets you 50-200 mbps service.
[URL]https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/philippines/starlink-goes-live-in-the-philippines-space-x-1.1677051442157[/URL]
Tried searching this but no luck. Where do I rent a cheap airfare ticket to be used to show athorities I am leaving the country that I don't intend to use? Website or?
Thanks,
FT.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2793882]Tried searching this but no luck. Where do I rent a cheap airfare ticket to be used to show athorities I am leaving the country that I don't intend to use? Website or? [/QUOTE]On the Cebu Pacific website, make an account. Before you go to Phils, purchase any 1-way CP refundable ticket out of Phils (say, to Bangkok), for 29 days after your arrival date, and show that to the NAIA inbound Immigration. Upon arrival at your hotel, go to your account on the CP website (or app) and cancel the ticket. They money will be placed into your online account for use at a later time (up to 6 months I think). That doesn't get your money back, but you can use that money in the CP account to fly domestically about the country for 6 months.
Last year I posted a link to an organization that charges a small fee ($15-$20 USD) for reserving a flight for you. You have a few hours to print out your itinerary. Then the organization cancels the reservation for you. You show the printed itinerary upon Phils entry. Phils BI rarely check to see if your reservation is still valid.
There might be other airlines that allow cancel-able and fully-refundable tickets. Other gents?
You can use onwardticket. They charge $14 and it's a real reservation. Just go to their website. They cancel it I believe after 24-48 hours. I've used it before, but usually I've never been asked to show it but maybe once. They ask if I have a return date / ticket and I just give them the date booked. Granted my passport shows I've been to phils and many SE asia countries many times so they never really ask a lot of questions. I'm generally at the immigration window for less than 3 minutes. Hand them your passsport, airline ticket and prepare for pic and finger prints. Done.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2793887]On the Cebu Pacific website, make an account. Before you go to Phils, purchase any 1-way CP refundable ticket out of Phils (say, to Bangkok), for 29 days after your arrival date, and show that to the NAIA inbound Immigration. Upon arrival at your hotel, go to your account on the CP website (or app) and cancel the ticket. They money will be placed into your online account for use at a later time (up to 6 months I think). That doesn't get your money back, but you can use that money in the CP account to fly domestically about the country for 6 months.
Last year I posted a link to an organization that charges a small fee ($15-$20 USD) for reserving a flight for you. You have a few hours to print out your itinerary. Then the organization cancels the reservation for you. You show the printed itinerary upon Phils entry. Phils BI rarely check to see if your reservation is still valid.
There might be other airlines that allow cancel-able and fully-refundable tickets. Other gents?[/QUOTE]
This is pretty cool. Although which is it, 50 or 200? Kind of a big diff. : the I feel like I would need 200+ to work remotely in PH. Anyone know what the absolute fastest speed you could get in PH and by which provider?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2793264]Some good news. It would appear that Musk's satellite Internet service is available anywhere in Phils. The article says $500 USD (p25000) to purchase the equipment, and $50 / month (p2500) thereafter, gets you 50-200 mbps service.
[URL]https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/philippines/starlink-goes-live-in-the-philippines-space-x-1.1677051442157[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2793894]This is pretty cool. Although which is it, 50 or 200? Kind of a big diff. : the I feel like I would need 200+ to work remotely in PH. Anyone know what the absolute fastest speed you could get in PH and by which provider?[/QUOTE]Not sure of the absolute fastest, but I got 500 mbps down (and up!) in 2 separate Knightsbridge condo units that used Globe fiber in Makati last year. Caveat: The wifi router in both units were running 60-80 mbps, depending time of day. It was only when I ran an ethernet wire from the router to my laptop's ethernet port that I got the big bump to 490-520 mbps.
Also I got 150 down on a PLDT router sytem at a rented home in the province. I txt the owner to ask if he could get more speed but he was out of town, and he asked me to go to the PLDT store and inquire. Once there they informed me that they had a max 300 mbps down (early 2022). These speeds are vast improvements in Phils from pre-covid times, possibly due to new providers (Convergence is one; I saw their trucks in both the province and Makati; Musk's Starlink starts another).
The 50/200 is never really specified on satellite systems. Due to weather and any objects that might obstruct the signal, speed varies.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2793907]Not sure of the absolute fastest, but I got 500 mbps down (and up!) in 2 separate Knightsbridge condo units that used Globe fiber in Makati last year. Caveat: The wifi router in both units were running 60-80 mbps, depending time of day. It was only when I ran an ethernet wire from the router to my laptop's ethernet port that I got the big bump to 490-520 mbps. [/QUOTE]Forgot to mention. I got 100 down using Convergance at Bel-Air Soho last year, and this year in Manila am currently getting 80.
My worst-case scenario was last year when an airbnb owner got confused about his router speed. He purchased 100 mbps, but when he checked me into his unit, I could only get 6-9 mbps. He was standing right there. I asked him to visit any speed test site on his phone and run a test. He got the same speed that I did. I asked him to show me the router, thinking that I could power-cycle it. "Its not here. Its down the hall in my other unit, 1707". Dude this is 1705, there is a unit between there and here. "Yes. I have an extender there on the wall". Great! He had another renter in 1707, so we walked down to 1707 and knocked and asked the renter his speed. "Lucky if I get 10. Its crap. OK for browsing, crap for streaming. Stuff buffers. Fix it". Owner: 'But, but, but I am paying for 100!' We power-cycled the modem and it didn't help. I was there for a month and complained again later about the speed. The owner didn't even call his provider to ask why they were delivering the slow speed. I complained to airbnb (property not as described, a blatant airbnb policy violation) and they suggested that I contact the owner first and ask for some money back. The owner agreed to a 10% refund, to change the txt in the description to say 10 mbs and that the unit's Internet was split with another unit.
The saving grace was that I'd just purchased a new 5 G phone and SIM card, and got a post-paid Phils phone plan. Unlimited calling and txting, and lots of GB of data. I was getting 110 mbps inside the unit (and 200 mbps outside the building) and hotspotting that to my laptop or the unit's Internet TV.
Haven't seen any info on this lately but I know many have entered. Philippine Immigration say no PCR test to enter if vaccinated shots? What's that mean, boosters? I got one shot J&J over a year ago but no boosters. After all the controversy with these things I said no way. I may schedule a PCR Covid test just in case as after 27 HR flight I want no issues. I guess OneHealth Pass is still required. Any info from those who recently entered appreciated.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2794084]Haven't seen any info on this lately but I know many have entered. Philippine Immigration say no PCR test to enter if vaccinated shots? What's that mean, boosters? I got one shot J&J over a year ago but no boosters. After all the controversy with these things I said no way. I may schedule a PCR Covid test just in case as after 27 HR flight I want no issues. I guess OneHealth Pass is still required. Any info from those who recently entered appreciated.[/QUOTE]From the Quantas website. Single shot of J&J seems fine.
[URL]https://www.qantas.com/travelready/destinations/philippines.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2794120]From the Quantas website. Single shot of J&J seems fine.
[URL]https://www.qantas.com/travelready/destinations/philippines.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks Westy but I saw this on the Philippine Embassy website earlier today. Maybe traveling from down under different. My PCR came back today so I'm all good for tomorrow as I did not get booster. Three years now, this crap needs to end. !!
Travellers with NO BOOSTER shot must secure and present a negative pre-departure RT-PCR test taken within 48 h OR negative laboratory-administered antigen / ART test within 24 h from their travel from an MOH-approved provider.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2794216]Thanks Westy but I saw this on the Philippine Embassy website earlier today. Maybe traveling from down under different. My PCR came back today so I'm all good for tomorrow as I did not get booster. Three years now, this crap needs to end. !!
Travellers with NO BOOSTER shot must secure and present a negative pre-departure RT-PCR test taken within 48 h OR negative laboratory-administered antigen / ART test within 24 h from their travel from an MOH-approved provider.[/QUOTE]Other gents, who have entered Phils in the past month and were not boostered: Did you have to take covid test?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2794477]Other gents, who have entered Phils in the past month and were not boostered: Did you have to take covid test?[/QUOTE]A friend flew into NAIA mid-Jan with just two shots of Pfizer or Moderna, I. E. No booster. No test necessary.
edit: to provide some more details. My friend has an EU passport. Think he showed the vaccine certificate once somewhere, and that was it.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2794477]Other gents, who have entered Phils in the past month and were not boostered: Did you have to take covid test?[/QUOTE]Flew HNL-MNL in December on PAL. Downloaded the required software program onto my phone at the HNL airport, and answered the questions online. Good to go. Am going again next week and will follow same routine. If you have had 2 vaccine shots, further testing not needed.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2794216]Travellers with NO BOOSTER shot must secure and present a negative pre-departure RT-PCR test taken within 48 h OR negative laboratory-administered antigen / ART test within 24 h from their travel from an MOH-approved provider.[/QUOTE]Hope this helps. From the [URL]ph.usembassy.gov[/URL] website, dated January 28,2023. Fully vaccinated = 2 shots of Moderna, Pfizer, Sinovac, etc, and does not include a booster. Alternately 1 shot of J&J = fully vaccinated.
[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/covid-19-and-travel-information/[/URL]
[I]January 28, 2023.
ENTRY AND EXIT REQUIREMENTS.
Are USA Citizens permitted to enter? Yes.
Entry to the Philippines: Although travel to the Philippines is now permitted, USA Citizens should know and comply with IATF Resolution No. 2 , which generally include the following as a minimum:
[b]Fully Vaccinated Travelers: Pre-departure COVID testing is no longer required for fully vaccinated travelers, whether Filipinos or foreign nationals.[/b]
Unvaccinated / Partially Vaccinated Travelers: A laboratory-based rapid antigen negative test result within twenty-four (24) hours prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin is required for entry to the Philippines.[/I]
From the Phils IATF (October 4, 2022; see pic):
[URL]https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2022/10oct/20221004-IATF-RESO-2-FRM.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2794786]Hope this helps. From the [URL]ph.usembassy.gov[/URL] website, dated January 28,2023. Fully vaccinated = 2 shots of Moderna, Pfizer, Sinovac, etc, and does not include a booster. Alternately 1 shot of J&J = fully vaccinated.
[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/covid-19-and-travel-information/[/URL]
[I]January 28, 2023.
ENTRY AND EXIT REQUIREMENTS.
Are USA Citizens permitted to enter? Yes.
Entry to the Philippines: Although travel to the Philippines is now permitted, USA Citizens should know and comply with IATF Resolution No. 2 , which generally include the following as a minimum:
[b]Fully Vaccinated Travelers: Pre-departure COVID testing is no longer required for fully vaccinated travelers, whether Filipinos or foreign nationals.[/b]
Unvaccinated / Partially Vaccinated Travelers: A laboratory-based rapid antigen negative test result within twenty-four (24) hours prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin is required for entry to the Philippines.[/I]
From the Phils IATF (October 4, 2022; see pic):
[URL]https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2022/10oct/20221004-IATF-RESO-2-FRM.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]FYI, they wanted to see my copy of PCR test on my phone before I left US on Friday along with vax card.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2795848]FYI, they wanted to see my copy of PCR test on my phone before I left US on Friday along with vax card.[/QUOTE]Odd. From the Phils government etravel website:
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/entry-guidelines[/URL]
[I]Entry Guidelines.
As per IATF Resolution No. 2 (s. 2022) on the ENTRY, QUARANTINE and TESTING Requirements of inbound travelers to the Philippines.
A. FULLY VACCINATED (Filipino and Foreign Travelers).
- No pre-departure COVID-19 Test requirement.
- Must have received the 2nd dose in a 2-dose series or a single dose COVID-19 vaccine more than fourteen (14) days prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin / port of embarkation.[/I]
I've seen various answers to this. Hope someone here with recent experience can clarify.
Do I need a PCR test in the PH (presumably, Manila) to check-in and board my return flight? I'm flying PAL non-stop from NAIA to LAX.
Thanks.
If you are a US passport holder / citizen, no tests are required. I've returned to the US several times in 2022 and no tests are required. I think the only exception is if you are c19 positive or recently (xx amount of days).
If you are not a US citizen, you should check any requirements for your country / nationality.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2796149]I've seen various answers to this. Hope someone here with recent experience can clarify.
Do I need a PCR test in the PH (presumably, Manila) to check-in and board my return flight? I'm flying PAL non-stop from NAIA to LAX.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Often times you need to educate the airline counter / check-in staff as they do not know the updated requirements. I've been asked before and you just need to be confident and advise them that it's no longer required. They may double check with their supervisor or just take your work for it.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2795848]FYI, they wanted to see my copy of PCR test on my phone before I left US on Friday along with vax card.[/QUOTE]
I arrived in MNL this morning on a direct flight on Philippine Airlines from LAX. 1) to be considered fully vaccinated by the PI you need to have two Moderna or Pfizer shots or one J&J (maybe others). They don't care about boosters. 2) the most important thing seems to be that you fill out the eTravel document online. You are supposed to do this three days before arriving, but you can do it upon arrival. The airline has people available to help you when you get off the flight, but not doing it in advance will slow you down slightly as it's the first thing the government wants to see when you de-plane. You need the QR code either printed or on a phone. If their scanner can read the code you are good to go. Filling the form out is quick and easy. You just need the dates of your shots. 3) The airline asked to see the code when I was checking in, they also asked to see my Vaccination record. I gave them a print out of the CA.gov digital record with QR code, but they didn't run the code, he just looked at the printed dates for my shots below it. No government official ever asked to see my vaccination record, in fact there was no discussion of Covid other than my presenting the eTravel QR Code and their system recognizing it (took three seconds) or less.
Hope this helps. Was accurate as of 5 am this morning.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2796138]Odd. From the Phils government etravel website:
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/entry-guidelines[/URL]
[I]Entry Guidelines.
As per IATF Resolution No. 2 (s. 2022) on the ENTRY, QUARANTINE and TESTING Requirements of inbound travelers to the Philippines.
A. FULLY VACCINATED (Filipino and Foreign Travelers).
- No pre-departure COVID-19 Test requirement.
- Must have received the 2nd dose in a 2-dose series or a single dose COVID-19 vaccine more than fourteen (14) days prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin / port of
embarkation.[/I][/QUOTE]Yes. This was New York at check in and lady seemed very serious about these items. I said something like all this still required. Yes sir. The test was 120 bucks not the end of the world but it would have sucked had I not had it. You may get different check in people and slide, but hey for $120 I'm not ruining my trip. Better safe than sorry. Again I had no booster on my vax card, if you are you may have different results.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2796620]Yes. This was New York at check in and lady seemed very serious about these items. I said something like all this still required. Yes sir. The test was 120 bucks not the end of the world but it would have sucked had I not had it. You may get different check in people and slide, but hey for $120 I'm not ruining my trip. Better safe than sorry. Again I had no booster on my vax card, if you are you may have different results.[/QUOTE]Yes. Sometimes the airline personnel are just wrong. They must deal with the Immigration rules of multiple countries (which change over time). Philippines has been exceptionally harsh in its rules, both Immigration and on its own people, during pandemic. Just look one year ago, with the re-opening, when the inbound rules changed regularly and sometimes within just days after the previous change.
Did they ask for it (without your prompting) at NAIA Immigration when you landed?
Recently I was contemplating how a China / US war over Taiwan would effect mongering in South East Asia, specifically the Philippines.
During the initial kinetic war most mongers would flee as the country became at the very least conflict adjacent. Hardcore expats that remained would have an asymmetrical advantage similar to COVID- but with the unfortunate hazard of being susceptible to actual missile strikes and attacks especially if the US began to use Luzon and other islands as a base of operations.
Once the situation stabilizes it's likely that Western mongers would retain an edge as the K-monger contingent would be greatly diminished due to mandatory military service and likely economic issues on the peninsula. I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea collapsed in the ensuing chaos. Travel to and from the Philippines would be much more expensive and harder to arrange. Mindanao would become more attractive as an option as Western Expats in Luzon fled to safer locations. An Angeles to Davao trail of tears for Western Mongers is easy to imagine.
The final phase would be a shift away from older / retired Western Expats to a new preference for young and virile US service men now stationed all over the islands.
Something similar would happen in Thailand, but it's more likely that Thailand manages to remain neutral and so avoids many of the extreme dislocations. I do not see kinetic war coming to Thailand during this conflict. Cambodia will be aligned with China and so Westerners will not be welcome there.
More generally, the world would initially be plunged into a major economic depression as trade relationships are catastrophically disrupted and re-worked with China and Russia on the losing end. India would finally come to side with the US. The resulting peace would not necessarily be a re-establishment of the Pax-Americana but a return to a pre-Unipolar environment in which sex tourism is more costly and difficult for the average Westerners, but for those that have the means it would skew asymmetrically in their favor. Also previously mentioned service men would have a great time of it. Perhaps a return to some of the conditions in the 80's and 90's as far as what I've heard.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2797314]Recently I was contemplating how a China / US war over Taiwan would effect mongering in South East Asia, specifically the Philippines.
During the initial kinetic war most mongers would flee as the country became at the very least conflict adjacent. Hardcore expats that remained would have an asymmetrical advantage similar to COVID- but with the unfortunate hazard of being susceptible to actual missile strikes and attacks especially if the US began to use Luzon and other islands as a base of operations.
Once the situation stabilizes it's likely that Western mongers would retain an edge as the K-monger contingent would be greatly diminished due to mandatory military service and likely economic issues on the peninsula. I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea collapsed in the ensuing chaos. Travel to and from the Philippines would be much more expensive and harder to arrange. Mindanao would become more attractive as an option as Western Expats in Luzon fled to safer locations. An Angeles to Davao trail of tears for Western Mongers is easy to imagine.
The final phase would be a shift away from older / retired Western Expats to a new preference for young and virile US service men now stationed all over the islands.
Something similar would happen in Thailand, but it's more likely that Thailand manages to remain neutral and so avoids many of the extreme dislocations. I do not see kinetic war coming to Thailand during this conflict. Cambodia will be aligned with China and so Westerners will not be welcome there.
More generally, the world would initially be plunged into a major economic depression as trade relationships are catastrophically disrupted and re-worked with China and Russia on the losing end. India would finally come to side with the US. The resulting peace would not necessarily be a re-establishment of the Pax-Americana but a return to a pre-Unipolar environment in which sex tourism is more costly and difficult for the average Westerners, but for those that have the means it would skew asymmetrically in their favor. Also previously mentioned service men would have a great time of it. Perhaps a return to some of the conditions in the 80's and 90's as far as what I've heard.[/QUOTE]And here I was just thinking about the next young brown hole I'm going to insert my dick into.
A thesis on the impact of WWIII on the availability of LBFM's for retired western expats on a pension.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2797314]
The final phase would be a shift away from older / retired Western Expats to a new preference for young and virile US service men now stationed all over the islands.[/QUOTE]You can add here:
With the young men of western nations being sent overseas the older men were left to fuck all the young talent in their home towns.
For the most part your thesis is crap. Belongs somewhere else.
[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2797717]For the most part your thesis is crap. Belongs somewhere else.[/QUOTE]It's a great thesis that belongs exactly where it is. I forgot to add that the sex industries in Brazil and Colombia will also be beneficiaries of global conflict. Let us here remember the words of Zeno- "Steel your sensibilities, so that life shall hurt you as little as possible. ".
Probably a well-trodden topic, but I would appreciate you guys' input. Putting it in general info since it's not really just a Manila neighborhoods question.
Going back to Manila in June for a pure two-week fuck trip. Went for the first time this January and stayed in both Malate and Makati but was traveling with a non-mongering friend so I could not focus fully on the hobby. Both Malate and Makati had pros and cons: I liked the more rough-and-tumble vibe of Malate as well as the fact that it feels like it's more spread out; however, PL girls were less willing to book a moto / taxi to Malate (perceived danger / more distance). Makati: easier to get PL girls to come; more expensive and feels limited to basically just P Burgos St. And a few side streets.
My general modus operandi so far has been PL, with what I consider good success. Plenty of cute 18 and 19-year olds. For the upcoming trip, I will however make sure to screen for whether they have had babies. Sure it's going to limit the pickings, but it's worth it, I think.
I am open to the concept of picking up girls in malls or on the street (whether civilians or freelancers), but honestly the bar scene does not appeal that much to me: too loud, too crowded etc. Big Apple in Puerto Galera was kind of bearable, being more spread out and semi-open air.
One thing I hunted a bit for in both Malate and Makati in January was "anything goes" massage parlors, but I did not really find anything worthwhile. Went to one place on Pedro Gil St directly opposite Robinsons Mall, but there were no extras on offer at all. Found a few places off the side streets of P Burgos but the girls were too old and offered services only with a condom at outrageous prices.
My concrete questions are:
1) How would I go about finding more exciting massage places? Taxi drivers?
2) Am I right in thinking I should just stay in Malate and be better at convincing the girls to come there?
3) Are there any good hunting grounds that are not in the traditional monger areas, I. E. Malate and Makati?
4) Is Cebu viable for a two-week PL-based sex trip?
As always, many thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800217]...stayed in both Malate and Makati but was traveling with a non-mongering friend so I could not focus fully on the hobby....[/QUOTE]Get rid of them. No one needs negativity in their lives. 😜.
G.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800217]
My concrete questions are:
1) How would I go about finding more exciting massage places? Taxi drivers?
2) Am I right in thinking I should just stay in Malate and be better at convincing the girls to come there?
3) Are there any good hunting grounds that are not in the traditional monger areas, I. E. Malate and Makati?
4) Is Cebu viable for a two-week PL-based sex trip?
As always, many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]1/. It really is trial and error. I'd agree that there are many places that will not offer extras to a stranger who they haven't met before. Taxi drivers know everywhere but they will ask the shops for a spotters fee which will be passed onto you. There are lots of outcall massage services online.
2/. YMMV but I prefer Makati. Lots to see and do during the day; easy for girls to get to; lots of shop assistants if you have some game; generally safe (r) night and day. Downsides are: many malls are higher end so don't just walk up to any customer and ask for a BJ; more expensive; a high percentage of the club's are noisy, smoky etc.
3/. Have you considered Bonificio Global City: nice area and the restau-bars are much more relaxed.
4/. Cebu: online capital of PI; many girl come for legitimate and illegitimate work from all over; lots of see and do day and night; all levels of entertainment widely available; many places nearby for a day trip / weekend; sun, beaches, diving; like for like cheaper than MNL. The negatives: the gogo bars truely suck; traffic and therefore girl travel times can be outrageous.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800217]Probably a well-trodden topic, but I would appreciate you guys' input. Putting it in general info since it's not really just a Manila neighborhoods question.
1) How would I go about finding more exciting massage places? Taxi drivers?
2) Am I right in thinking I should just stay in Malate and be better at convincing the girls to come there?
3) Are there any good hunting grounds that are not in the traditional monger areas, I. E. Malate and Makati?
4) Is Cebu viable for a two-week PL-based sex trip?
As always, many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]-Taxi drivers will want to take you to casa's or gentlemen clubs (their cut is bigger there). If you got the cash to spend, then it is sometimes worth it for the experience. Actually just search for massage online and you will find many. Or walk around and wait for the first tout that dose not totally offend you and use him. Or turn on any app with location.
-Getting girls to commute to malate is not the easiest. Most think it is a not safe place to go, plus it is not really close to any rail. Most girls will get off at Pedro and will have to walk down quite a bit, and they generally don't like to do that especially when they think the area is not that safe. If you want the girls to commute, then I would suggest somewhere along the rail between cubao to trinoma.
-I am not exactly sure I understand this? Specifically, but if you are talking about freelancers and the like, then Makati is way better finding things on the street and in around the area. All the local bars and casa's are gone or moved from malate, there is only LA Cafe. Harrisons is gone, and Robinsons selection (unless things have changed) is horrendous.
-Yes. But like always you need a 2 week headstart, and backup on top of backup on top of backup and then a few more.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800235]1/. It really is trial and error. I'd agree that there are many places that will not offer extras to a stranger who they haven't met before. Taxi drivers know everywhere but they will ask the shops for a spotters fee which will be passed onto you. There are lots of outcall massage services online.
2/. YMMV but I prefer Makati. Lots to see and do during the day; easy for girls to get to; lots of shop assistants if you have some game; generally safe (r) night and day. Downsides are: many malls are higher end so don't just walk up to any customer and ask for a BJ; more expensive; a high percentage of the club's are noisy, smoky etc.
3/. Have you considered Bonificio Global City: nice area and the restau-bars are much more relaxed.
4/. Cebu: online capital of PI; many girl come for legitimate and illegitimate work from all over; lots of see and do day and night; all levels of entertainment widely available; many places nearby for a day trip / weekend; sun, beaches, diving; like for like cheaper than MNL. The negatives: the gogo bars truely suck; traffic and therefore girl travel times can be outrageous.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]1: I was actually thinking of befriending a taxi driver or two to see where that leads, if that is advisable. Not really into outcall massages.
2: I never made it to Ayala / Greenbelt on my last trip, only Robinsons and Century City on Kalayaan Ave. I did however go to some of the Chinese low-end malls in Chinatown. I wonder if these could provide anything.
3: Not really. I spent a few hours there but it seems rather corporate and devoid of people. To be honest I think I prefer being right in the middle of the action despite not really participating in the bar experience.
4: "online capital of PI" - saw that exact phrase used when I was browsing the forums. What makes me hesistant is that it is a considerably smaller place than Manila, so statistically, the odds of finding a willing 18-year-old on PL are less good. I think this perception comes from my experience in Phuket and BKK in Dec 2021: in Phuket, I found one (18-year-old girl. She was amazing. Easily the best fuck of the trip. But BKK offered nearly limitless quantities of these girls.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2800254]-Taxi drivers will want to take you to casa's or gentlemen clubs (their cut is bigger there). If you got the cash to spend, then it is sometimes worth it for the experience. Actually just search for massage online and you will find many. Or walk around and wait for the first tout that dose not totally offend you and use him. Or turn on any app with location.
-Getting girls to commute to malate is not the easiest. Most think it is a not safe place to go, plus it is not really close to any rail. Most girls will get off at Pedro and will have to walk down quite a bit, and they generally don't like to do that especially when they think the area is not that safe. If you want the girls to commute, then I would suggest somewhere along the rail between cubao to trinoma.
-I am not exactly sure I understand this? Specifically, but if you are talking about freelancers and the like, then Makati is way better finding things on the street and in around the area. All the local bars and casa's are gone or moved from malate, there is only LA Cafe. Harrisons is gone, and Robinsons selection (unless things have changed) is horrendous.
-Yes. But like always you need a 2 week headstart, and backup on top of backup on top of backup and then a few more.[/QUOTE]1: Have I understood correctly that a casa is basically just a brothel. Do they cater to locals? I can imagine gentlemen's clubs could be expensive if they cater to the PH elite, but how about casas? Are we still talking reasonable (P1500-5000) prices? I will try talking to some touts to see if I can locate some massage places. Apps with location: I know the WeChat nearby feature but didn't try it in PH. Do WhatsApp and Telegram have similar features?
2: Basically all of my girls came by moto / taxi. A few claimed it was too far or wanted upfront cash (these were thrown into the discard pile). Regarding a place between Cubao and Trinoma: would it really make sense to find a place all the way up near Quezon City? I know girls are everywhere, but it seems like it would be a bit out of the way. In either case, I will try to offer girls to come pick them up if they seem serious enough.
3: Yeah, I was not impressed with the freelancers I saw in Robinsons either. There were a shit ton of touts on Mabini St at night though. I guess I will have to explore Makati some more to see if I can find some gems.
4: Two week headstart meaning going on PL two weeks before, building connections and setting appointments? I thought about it and did it to a minor extent on the previous trip (activated PL during my layover in Turkey and started sorting through the girls), which worked out to the extent that I did get laid the same night I landed in Manila. Basically what I'm worried about is chatting too much with girls and leaving the impression that I'm there for love. I normally follow the advice given here that freelancer girls are fickle creatures that mostly plan a few hours ahead. This quality also lead me to set up multiple appointments with girls for the same time slot, so to speak, as a few were bound to fall through anyway.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800364]1: I was actually thinking of befriending a taxi driver or two to see where that leads, if that is advisable. Not really into outcall massages.
1: Have I understood correctly that a casa is basically just a brothel. Do they cater to locals? I can imagine gentlemen's clubs could be expensive if they cater to the PH elite, but how about casas? Are we still talking reasonable (P1500-5000) prices? I will try talking to some touts to see if I can locate some massage places. Apps with location: I know the WeChat nearby feature but didn't try it in PH. Do WhatsApp and Telegram have similar features?
2: Basically all of my girls came by moto / taxi. A few claimed it was too far or wanted upfront cash (these were thrown into the discard pile). Regarding a place between Cubao and Trinoma: would it really make sense to find a place all the way up near Quezon City? I know girls are everywhere, but it seems like it would be a bit out of the way. In either case, I will try to offer girls to come pick them up if they seem serious enough.
3: Yeah, I was not impressed with the freelancers I saw in Robinsons either. There were a shit ton of touts on Mabini St at night though. I guess I will have to explore Makati some more to see if I can find some gems.
4: Two week headstart meaning going on PL two weeks before, building connections and setting appointments? I thought about it and did it to a minor extent on the previous trip (activated PL during my layover in Turkey and started sorting through the girls), which worked out to the extent that I did get laid the same night I landed in Manila. Basically what I'm worried about is chatting too much with girls and leaving the impression that I'm there for love. I normally follow the advice given here that freelancer girls are fickle creatures that mostly plan a few hours ahead. This quality also lead me to set up multiple appointments with girls for the same time slot, so to speak, as a few were bound to fall through anyway.[/QUOTE]-Befriending a driver is always a good strat, it is one I still use when exploring a new town. Casas' will serve anyone with pesos and I have seen them as low as 1. 5 and as high as 5 (but I have not been to one in since covid, so I would expect it to be much higher now) G clubs start at about 7. 5. Both will require a good amount of tipping (at least the first time you go) until you get everyones business cards, and make a few friends, after that you can just phone your order in.
-Their last leg may have been moto / taxi. If they are close, just send them a grab. If you get your 2 week head start, you will figure out where most of the girls are coming from. If they are mostly in the south, then you want to stay near Buendia / PITX as they will be coming by bus. If they are coming from the north, then something central on the rail line would be best. QC is awesome (if you can stand the damn traffic). There is a lot of action in QC but it is not all that convenient because of the traffic.
--You could just go the easy route, and jet up to AC.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800364]Apps with location: I know the WeChat nearby feature but didn't try it in PH. Do WhatsApp and Telegram have similar features?.[/QUOTE]Wechat is largely pointless in PI. Of the apps that are widely used, Tinder has the best 'near me' feature.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2800412]-Befriending a driver is always a good strat, it is one I still use when exploring a new town. Casas' will serve anyone with pesos and I have seen them as low as 1. 5 and as high as 5 (but I have not been to one in since covid, so I would expect it to be much higher now) G clubs start at about 7. 5. Both will require a good amount of tipping (at least the first time you go) until you get everyones business cards, and make a few friends, after that you can just phone your order in.
-Their last leg may have been moto / taxi. If they are close, just send them a grab. If you get your 2 week head start, you will figure out where most of the girls are coming from. If they are mostly in the south, then you want to stay near Buendia / PITX as they will be coming by bus. If they are coming from the north, then something central on the rail line would be best. QC is awesome (if you can stand the damn traffic). There is a lot of action in QC but it is not all that convenient because of the traffic.
--You could just go the easy route, and jet up to AC.[/QUOTE]I guess I will try befriending taxi drivers. I guess I have just always been too much of a chicken to really pursue street contacts. By the time I started mongering, the game had already moved online in my home country.
I don't recall asking all the girls where they were from, but they seemed to be able to get to me in around 30-40 minutes. I may have sorted out the ones +20 km away, since I figured the odds of them coming would be low anyway.
Regarding AC: Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I have this perception that AC and Pattaya are full of hardened hookers, even compared to the the big cities. Most young PL / TF freelancers in Manila / BKK just seem be poor girls who need money, not professionals as such (though obviously some are).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800490]Wechat is largely pointless in PI. Of the apps that are widely used, Tinder has the best 'near me' feature.[/QUOTE]I had a weird experience with Tinder last time I went. I try to separate off my mongering adventures from my main gmail as much as possible, so I have a dedicated email for these activities. I also used the same email for TF for my 2021 Thailand trip. This time though, when I set up the account again for my PH trip, it was deleted within a few hours after I had just swiped a bit, with no explanation from Tinder. I had not even started chatting with anyone.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800518]Regarding AC: Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I have this perception that AC and Pattaya are full of hardened hookers, [/QUOTE]They are, if you only use Walking Street gogos for pickups. Like Pattaya, AC also has streetwalkers, shop assistants, online, girls you meet through the day. Pick your poison.
Note that AC is much smaller than Pattaya, with far less legitimate activities to pass the day though.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800518]I had a weird experience with Tinder last time I went. I try to separate off my mongering adventures from my main gmail as much as possible, so I have a dedicated email for these activities. I also used the same email for TF for my 2021 Thailand trip. This time though, when I set up the account again for my PH trip, it was deleted within a few hours after I had just swiped a bit, with no explanation from Tinder. I had not even started chatting with anyone.[/QUOTE]Were you using a VPN & foreign server? Not Tinder, but I was once banned from another app shortly after returning home. My home IP didn't match my profile setting saying I was still in PI.
It was cleared up with a call to customer service but it's proof that they do monitor and act on scammers and profile errors.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800540]They are, if you only use Walking Street gogos for pickups. Like Pattaya, AC also has streetwalkers, shop assistants, online, girls you meet through the day. Pick your poison.
Note that AC is much smaller than Pattaya, with far less legitimate activities to pass the day though.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Well, online / PL being my primary game, it could be somewhat different. Still, Manila girls have been sweet enough so far even though I am of course tempted by the promise of true provincial innocence.
I could honestly just read books while waiting for the refractory period to be over.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800544]Were you using a VPN & foreign server? Not Tinder, but I was once banned from another app shortly after returning home. My home IP didn't match my profile setting saying I was still in PI.
It was cleared up with a call to customer service but it's proof that they do monitor and act on scammers and profile errors.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I cannot remember, and I would like to have Tinder available for the next trip. Don't know exactly what I'll do. Maybe contest the ban / account deletion.
I have another question for you experienced PH-hands: what counts as "the provinces" and how do I access this grotto of untouched beauties? Seriously considering purchasing ISG premium in the upcoming months if this is a topic best discussed on the ground.
Again, cheers and thanks to all who have trodden these paths before me.
[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2800802]Well, online / PL being my primary game, it could be somewhat different. Still, Manila girls have been sweet enough so far even though I am of course tempted by the promise of true provincial innocence.
I could honestly just read books while waiting for the refractory period to be over.
I cannot remember, and I would like to have Tinder available for the next trip. Don't know exactly what I'll do. Maybe contest the ban / account deletion.
I have another question for you experienced PH-hands: what counts as "the provinces" and how do I access this grotto of untouched beauties? Seriously considering purchasing ISG premium in the upcoming months if this is a topic best discussed on the ground.
Again, cheers and thanks to all who have trodden these paths before me.[/QUOTE]You can call or email customer service. Mine was a five minute fix.
I regard anything outside Manila (with it's 97 different districts) and Cebu as "the province's". I know Davao has more people than Cebu. However, the city generally, and the girls specifically, have a much more provincial feel.
Access is simply fly there and allow time to meet new girls that may require more work than point and shoot.
What's ISG Premium?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800861]Access is simply fly there and allow time to meet new girls that may require more work than point and shoot[/QUOTE]Plan on spending a month or more. They take time to woo. However, the woo can be worth the prize.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2800861]What's ISG Premium?[/QUOTE]He is not yet a paid member. Dok it might be the best $20 you spend, as you get access to the Private Message system of contacting gents individually and privately. You could contact Goferring and privately ask: "WTF is wrong with that WestCoast guy"?
Hello,
I need help, I mean a hint to stay more than 2 months in the philippines and to deal with the the plane return ticket. I can get a visa for 59 days for manila and extend it for 29 days at the airport on the arrival or after during my stay.
My problem is the plane ticket as we must have a return ticket at the airport on departure. It means that I must buy a ticket for 59 days but if I extend my stay for 29 days more the date of my return ticket is no more valid so I have to change the date of my return ticket which is often not possible or buy a new one!
Perhaps I can buy a ticket of 59 days + 29 days and another one to Hong Kong for few days for example at the end of my 59 days and coming back to manila for 1 month (no visa needed) so I even don t need to extend my stay of 29 days at the arrival?
In fact I would like to know how to stay in the philippines without having to exit.
Thanks for your tips and sorry for my poor english.
Hello,
I need help, I mean a hint to stay more than 2 months in the philippines and to deal with the the plane return ticket. I can get a visa for 59 days for manila and extend it for 29 days at the airport on the arrival or after during my stay.
My problem is the plane ticket as we must have a return ticket at the airport on departure. It means that I must buy a ticket for 59 days but if I extend my stay for 29 days more the date of my return ticket is no more valid so I have to change the date of my return ticket which is often not possible or buy a new one!
Perhaps I can buy a ticket of 59 days + 29 days and another one to Hong Kong for few days for example at the end of my 59 days and coming back to manila for 1 month (no visa needed) so I even don t need to extend my stay of 29 days at the arrival?
In fact I would like to know how to stay in the philippines without having to exit.
Thanks for your tips and sorry for my poor english.
Search Jennifer Terri on youtube. She explains how to do this. Basically you can either buy an onward ticket to somewhere cheap like Thailand, then either refund it or eat the cost, or, there is also a service that will sell you a refundable ticket and they take care of it. Then you just keep extending your visa through one of the agencies there that do this specifically for foreigners.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2800929]Hello,
I need help, I mean a hint to stay more than 2 months in the philippines and to deal with the the plane return ticket. I can get a visa for 59 days for manila and extend it for 29 days at the airport on the arrival or after during my stay.
My problem is the plane ticket as we must have a return ticket at the airport on departure. It means that I must buy a ticket for 59 days but if I extend my stay for 29 days more the date of my return ticket is no more valid so I have to change the date of my return ticket which is often not possible or buy a new one!
Perhaps I can buy a ticket of 59 days + 29 days and another one to Hong Kong for few days for example at the end of my 59 days and coming back to manila for 1 month (no visa needed) so I even don t need to extend my stay of 29 days at the arrival?
In fact I would like to know how to stay in the philippines without having to exit.
Thanks for your tips and sorry for my poor english.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2800929]In fact I would like to know how to stay in the philippines without having to exit.
Thanks for your tips and sorry for my poor english.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is extremely easy to stay longer than your first visa. Depending on where you are from, you can stay 2 or 3 years without having to leave the country. It's as easy as repeatedly extending your visa a week before it expires at any Immigration office.
Remember, to receive any of the extensions your passport still needs to be valid for another 6 months. This means that if you want to stay 12, then your passport needs to be valid for 18 months when you leave home.
Cheers. G.
Having some issues with the website, 24 hours now.
1) Slow responsiveness of the site while browsing (getting timeouts) or clicking into different forums.
2) Trying to put someone in my ignore list. Found the 'Ignore' link under 'My Settings', where it says to enter the offending party's username in the box and then click OKAY. I click OK (or alternately, SAVE CHANGES), and nothing happens; there is no attempt for the browser to contact the website or do anything, as if the buttons simply don't do anything. Tried multiple browsers.
Anyone else?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2801068]Having some issues with the website, 24 hours now.
1) Slow responsiveness of the site while browsing (getting timeouts) or clicking into different forums.
2) Trying to put someone in my ignore list. Found the 'Ignore' link under 'My Settings', where it says to enter the offending party's username in the box and then click OKAY. I click OK (or alternately, SAVE CHANGES), and nothing happens; there is no attempt for the browser to contact the website or do anything, as if the buttons simply don't do anything. Tried multiple browsers.
Anyone else?[/QUOTE]I haven't had any problems.
Maybe at your end. Try rebooting your computer / device and your modem / router. Sometimes ISP problems at the local transmitter if you're using wireless broadband.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2801093]I haven't had any problems.
Maybe at your end. Try rebooting your computer / device and your modem / router. Sometimes ISP problems at the local transmitter if you're using wireless broadband.[/QUOTE]I had tried all of those things. And two different browsers. Then yesterday later in the day, I had success with one browser, while the other continues to have the same issues.
On both browsers I continue to have the issue of the SAVE and OK buttons. Moving the mouse over either button changes the mouse from a pointer to a hand (as it should), but clicking on either button did nothing. Then later when I went back to try it again, before I bothered to mouse-over either button, I noticed that the person was now in my Ignore List. Bully for me, but there should be a confirmation at the time: "FATHER McCOBB is now in your Ignore List", or such.
For those who don't remember Matthew McCobb (MathewCob on this site), the anti-AC do-gooder who was banned by Admin on this Board:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3525-Anti-Sex-Pervert-MathewCob-s-Disinformation-Campaign[/url]
Go have some fun, and look how the past comes back around to the present.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2801068]Having some issues with the website, 24 hours now.
1) Slow responsiveness of the site while browsing (getting timeouts) or clicking into different forums.
.........
Anyone else?[/QUOTE]This happened 3 days before, assumed the site was down for long 6 hours. It happened not for the problem in our end.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2800929] Perhaps I can buy a ticket of 59 days + 29 days and another one to Hong Kong [/QUOTE]You'll be asked for an onward ticket when you check in for your departure flight in your home country, and immigration will probably ask also. It must be within 30 days (maybe 28?) of your arrival in the Philippines. Extensions are easy as others mentioned. If you're one day late getting your extension it'll cost 1000 pesos, if you're 29 days late it will cost you 1000 pesos.
For an onward ticket you could poke around Expedia and find 24 hour free cancellation. It's harder than it used to be but it's still possible. Buy a one-way flight MNL to Singapore in 28 days. After you figure out how to do it you can wait until the day of your departure to purchase the ticket, screenshot or print out the receipt and itinerary. . Then after you check in, when you're waiting to board the flight, you can cancel the ticket. Usually the card is never charged. You could also do that days or weeks in advance but you run the risk of the check in counter actually confirming it. But that’s highly unlikely
The easiest thing is to just rent a ticket for like $10. Or you can buy a fully refundable ticket and then cancel it once you are through immigration.
Can anyone give me some advice on how to use grab?
I can't add my US credit cards. I tried searching for a solution and best thing I found was advice to use cash to pay.
But what about scenarios like if you're paying for a girls grab?
[QUOTE=Pickley;2801694]Can anyone give me some advice on how to use grab?
I can't add my US credit cards. I tried searching for a solution and best thing I found was advice to use cash to pay.
But what about scenarios like if you're paying for a girls grab?[/QUOTE]If you cannot use your credit card (not sure why) then yes you can pay cash upon arrival. I have also used Gcash and it is my top choice.
[QUOTE=Pickley;2801694]Can anyone give me some advice on how to use grab?
I can't add my US credit cards. I tried searching for a solution and best thing I found was advice to use cash to pay.
But what about scenarios like if you're paying for a girls grab?[/QUOTE]Correct. Grab does not accept foreign Credit or Debit cards for direct payment.
Correct. Cash is king and always works. Can you open GrabPay on the app? If so, do so and add stored value* using your US Credit card. Yes, the one that Grab won't accept for direct payment. Go figure. Welcome to the Philippines.
Grab were rejecting passengers who are not with the original person making the booking ie Monger A couldn't send a Grab to collect Girl Z without being in the car. Welcome to Covid. I don't know if this has changed.
* This worked with me in another country. If you can activate GrabPay, then it should work for you.
WestCoast1 had mobilising girls down pat. Maybe PM him.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2801697]If you cannot use your credit card (not sure why) then yes you can pay cash upon arrival. I have also used Gcash and it is my top choice.[/QUOTE]I never knew Grab accepted Gcash. This is much easier. 👍.
[URL]https://help.gcash.com/hc/en-us/articles/15263703770137-How-to-pay-using-GCash-in-the-Grab-App[/URL]#text=Note%3 A%20 You%20 must%20 link%20 your, GCash%20 to%20 the%20 Grab%20 App. &text=Note%3 A%20 Your%20 GCash%20 funds%20 will, your%20 trip / delivery%20 is%20 ongoing.
https://www.grab.com/ph/press/others/gcash-on-grab-by-february/
[QUOTE=Goferring;2801698]Correct. Grab does not accept foreign Credit or Debit cards for direct payment.
Correct. Cash is king and always works. Can you open GrabPay on the app? If so, do so and add stored value* using your US Credit card. Yes, the one that Grab won't accept for direct payment. Go figure. Welcome to the Philippines.
Grab were rejecting passengers who are not with the original person making the booking ie Monger A couldn't send a Grab to collect Girl Z without being in the car. Welcome to Covid. I don't know if this has changed.
* This worked with me in another country. If you can activate GrabPay, then it should work for you.
WestCoast1 had mobilising girls down pat. Maybe PM him.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Not true, I was in the Philippines last month and I successfully added my US credit card to my Grab app while I was still in the US. I used it frequently while in Manila.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2801724]Not true, I was in the Philippines last month and I successfully added my US credit card to my Grab app while I was still in the US. I used it frequently while in Manila.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I stand corrected. Sort of. Looks like it depends on the monger's bank and how they handle verifications. Previously Grab accepted no foreign banks (including mine). Now they seem to accept some / most.
Cheers. G.
"Register online payment for international credit and debit card.
Currently most issuing banks enable online payment as a default feature on their international credit / debit cards. However, a few banks will only enable it on customer's request upon opening the card or a later request.
If your international debit / credit card issued by one of the below banks and does not have the online payment feature enabled, you can follow the respective instruction to enable it:
[URL]https://help.grab.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2801724]Not true, I was in the Philippines last month and I successfully added my US credit card to my Grab app while I was still in the US. I used it frequently while in Manila.[/QUOTE]Were you able to send a car to collect someone too?
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2801739]Were you able to send a car to collect someone too?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]No, I never tried that. But I can't imagine that would make a difference. Once they accepted my card as a payment method, it was available for whatever.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2801743]No, I never tried that. But I can't imagine that would make a difference. Once they accepted my card as a payment method, it was available for whatever.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Grab Help is saying it's now possible (it wasn't previously).
"Can I still book a ride for my family and friends?
Yes, you can still book a ride for someone you know and trust at your own risk. Your Grab account should be for your personal use only, but we understand that sometimes you may need to book a ride for your family or friends. Be careful and help us keep our Grab community safe. ".
I have sent many a grab to go fetch.
But there is one thing to consider. Whatever they are fetching, kind of needs to be on time so you must constantly update the fetchie with screen shots (and pray) because they are not that patient, and will get very upset and just cancel sometimes.
With this holiday coming up, was wondering if anyone knew to what extent it will affect everything. Both P4 P girls / places and reg girls. Looking at the usual Manila, Makati, Angeles and Subic. I'm guessing it will pickup a bit before the girls travel to get some extra pesos before they leave, then it'll be somewhat dead everywhere during, and the girls will return with a ravenous appetite afterwards so they can refill their coffers. Gentlemen who have lived here or been here during this time, please advise on if my guess seems plausible or won't change enough to be seen / felt. Last time I was there, I got with the 1 out of every 5 reg girls that didn't flake LOL then filled the dead space with P4 P girls. But this was during a month where there were no holidays for people to travel home to their respective provinces. Figured I'd try here first for some info before I post it on the thread for each of the big cities / areas for maximum exposure to get some answers. Many thanks!
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2801819]With this holiday coming up, was wondering if anyone knew to what extent it will affect everything. Both P4 P girls / places and reg girls. Looking at the usual Manila, Makati, Angeles and Subic. I'm guessing it will pickup a bit before the girls travel to get some extra pesos before they leave, then it'll be somewhat dead everywhere during, and the girls will return with a ravenous appetite afterwards so they can refill their coffers. Gentlemen who have lived here or been here during this time, please advise on if my guess seems plausible or won't change enough to be seen / felt. Last time I was there, I got with the 1 out of every 5 reg girls that didn't flake LOL then filled the dead space with P4 P girls. But this was during a month where there were no holidays for people to travel home to their respective provinces. Figured I'd try here first for some info before I post it on the thread for each of the big cities / areas for maximum exposure to get some answers. Many thanks![/QUOTE]Been in Manila, AC, and Olongopo during Holy Week, and I didn't notice any change in my catch and release lifestyle. Traffic was a bit unpredictable, but its not like I was going to baguio or something. I have others say that the lineup thins out during the holy period, but I have not experienced it myself.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2801868]Been in Manila, AC, and Olongopo during Holy Week, and I didn't notice any change in my catch and release lifestyle. Traffic was a bit unpredictable, but its not like I was going to baguio or something. I have others say that the lineup thins out during the holy period, but I have not experienced it myself.[/QUOTE]Good to know, thanks! Sorry for the additional question, but was going to try calling some massage places or going to some Spas / Parlors. Is there a site where the reviews of these places are listed along with the costs? Tried looking at manilatonight but don't see any reviews or costs for services. Don't want to be taken advantage of or hyper-inflate the market.
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2801893]Good to know, thanks! Sorry for the additional question, but was going to try calling some massage places or going to some Spas / Parlors. Is there a site where the reviews of these places are listed along with the costs? Tried looking at manilatonight but don't see any reviews or costs for services. Don't want to be taken advantage of or hyper-inflate the market.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure if you do a simple google search for massage and or escorts, you will have all the info laid out for you. My guess is it will be way more info than you needed.
Good morning.
First of all thank you to Sam14,furiousgeorge and goferring for the reply and informations but it is still indecisive for me.
So if I sum up, I'm from Paris so I'm entitled to 30 days. When I arrive in Manila at the airport I extend for 29 days (3030 php 52 euros). Afterwards I can extend for 1, 2 or 6 months and then another 1,2,6 months up to a total of 36 months.
Isn't it less expensive to take a visa for 59 days in advance (27 euros) ? Something that I don't understand!
A return ticket Paris Manila is cheaper (765 euros 31/07 24/10) than a one-way Paris Manila 940 euros 31/07) so it is better to take a return ticket even if you are not sure of the return date.
If I rent a return ticket, won't they find it weird that I have 2 return tickets!
For the acr card it is 59 days of continuous presence on Philippine ground or can it be in several time? For example if I do 20 days in manila then I go out and come back 10 days later then another 40 days in manila.? . I would like to get it as soon as possible to open an account and buy a car.
THANKS.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]For the acr card it is 59 days of continuous presence on Philippine ground or can it be in several time? For example if I do 20 days in manila then I go out and come back 10 days later then another 40 days in manila.? . I would like to get it as soon as possible to open an account and buy a car.THANKS.[/QUOTE]FYIW, Here is my ACR card experience: I was required to pay for an ACR card when I applied for a tourist visa extension at the mall immigration office. It just seems to be another way to get some money from a tourist. No one ever asked to see it coming or going at the airport or anywhere else for that matter but maybe it was in the computer. It eventually expired (One year I think). This was a couple of years ago so it may be different now. Don't over think it. Just go with the flow.
FT.
Good questions. It can be confusing.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]So if I sum up, I'm from Paris so I'm entitled to 30 days. When I arrive in Manila at the airport I extend for 29 days (3030 php 52 euros). [/QUOTE]I am not sure of this. Was not aware that you could apply for an extension as you entered the country. Extensions must be applied for in the 7-day window prior to expiration. You should apply for your extension on or after day 23. Other gents weigh in.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]Afterwards I can extend for 1, 2 or 6 months and then another 1,2,6 months up to a total of 36 months.[/QUOTE]That depends on the location of your nearest Bureau of Immigration office. Some offices only allow 1 or 2 month extensions. Some offices process longer extensions (4 or 6 months) if you are a senior citizen (age 60+). You must depart prior to 36 months unless your visa status (tourist) changes while in-country (ie, to Permanent Status or SRRV or such).
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]Isn't it less expensive to take a visa for 59 days in advance (27 euros) ? Something that I don't understand![/QUOTE]You can do that, by applying for it thru a Phils Embassy in your home country in advance of your trip. Once in Phils, your first extension after 59 days can only be for 30 days. After that, they can be multiple months.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]A return ticket Paris Manila is cheaper (765 euros 31/07 24/10) than a one-way Paris Manila 940 euros 31/07) so it is better to take a return ticket even if you are not sure of the return date.[/QUOTE]Your return ticket that you show the Phils Immigration agent must have a specific return date.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]If I rent a return ticket, won't they find it weird that I have 2 return tickets![/QUOTE]Yes. When they swipe your passport at Phils Immigration, it will show a definite return date on their computer if you purchased a round-trip ticket in advance. It would not necessarily show any other 1-way outbound ticket unless you showed it to them.
You appear to be making this difficult. Consider purchasing a 1-way ticket to Phils. For example, arriving June 1. Then purchase a separate outbound ticket for June 29, that can be cancelled for a full refund. There are other similar alternatives that have been discussed here. At the inbound Immigration, show the outbound ticket, and get your passport stamped and enter the country. Then cancel the outbound ticket and get your money back. Then you can extend your visa up to 36 months.
[QUOTE=LoveEastAsia;2802136]For the acr card it is 59 days of continuous presence on Philippine ground or can it be in several time? For example if I do 20 days in manila then I go out and come back 10 days later then another 40 days in manila.? . I would like to get it as soon as possible to open an account and buy a car.[/QUOTE]Must be 59 continuous days. If you depart before 59 days and return, then your days start over again. If you stay 59 days and attempt to extend, they will automatically charge you for and provide you with an ACR card (you might have to return at a later date to pick up the ACR card at the BI office).
I am unsure about the account and buying a car. I have multiple friends in Phils that have Phils bank accounts and credit cards. However they have had them for a long time. I was rejected last year by BDO, Bank of Commerce, and Metrobank because my ACR at the time was stamped TOURIST. Every bank: "Sorry po, tourists not allowed to have a bank account in Philippines". Covid possibly seems to have slapped the banks into line with the law.
So I have both sim cards for differnet phones while I am staying here. Both required me to upload my documents to register the sim cards. Globe wanted the outbound flight (to any country), Smart asked for the outbound flight back to my home country (I uploaded a flight to Thailand and they accepted it. Now what's interesting is I got a text on my Smart sim card from Smart telling me that I had to upload a valid visa past X date which was when my visa is going to expire. I got no such text from Globe asking for more information. Interesting that they are linking smart sim cards to your visa expiration date which pretty much tells you that the gov't is pretty much working with Smart. Do wonder if Globe might try shutting off sim cards without bothering to ask for visa information then.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2802458]Interesting that they are linking smart sim cards to your visa expiration date which pretty much tells you that the gov't is pretty much working with Smart. Do wonder if Globe might try shutting off sim cards without bothering to ask for visa information then.[/QUOTE]Smart is working with the government. A new law passed for the SIM card makers to force you to register your past or future SIM cards with the government. The information is passed to the government. Globe also should have asked your upcoming visa ext date unless you are in the country permanently (13 a, SRRV). Probably few people think as conspiratorially as myself, but what better way for the government to keep a location-tracker on tourists (and anyone) than by knowing your name, your visa status (have you overstayed), and your approximate location (every time you turn your data on).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2802536]..Probably few people think as conspiratorially as myself, but what better way for the government to keep a location-tracker on tourists (and anyone) than by knowing your name, your visa status (have you overstayed), and your approximate location (every time you turn your data on).[/QUOTE]Haha. You're not a conspiracy theorist man, you're a reality theorist. And so they can store every word you ever typed, use algorithms, and pull your records to use against you in the event you're ever stupid enough or unlucky enough to get yourself in trouble.
Grab your tinfoil hat amigo, and wait for the next pandemic they've promised will be worse, central bank digital currencies, and for the gates of the digital concentration camp to slam shut. More incentive to get as much of that sweet brown puddie-pie as possible now!
[QUOTE=Sam14;2802653]Grab your tinfoil hat amigo, and wait for the next pandemic they've promised will be worse, central bank digital currencies, and for the gates of the digital concentration camp to slam shut. More incentive to get as much of that sweet brown puddie-pie as possible now![/QUOTE]Yes, a suggestion: Next time you find yourself in sweet-brown-puddie-pie-land and an epidemic / pandemic is inbound, maybe you stay for a while. They only last for a few years.
And dammit who TF is taking that pic? The memory taint what it used to be.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2802656]Yes, a suggestion: Next time you find yourself in sweet-brown-puddie-pie-land and an epidemic / pandemic is inbound, maybe you stay for a while. They only last for a few years.
And dammit who TF is taking that pic? The memory taint what it used to be.[/QUOTE]Your right arm is in a strange position. So maybe your holding a selfie stick? Not sure I would have the presence of mind to be doing photography while that little cutie had my cock in her mouth. But you are a level above me. LOL.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2802662]Your right arm is in a strange position. So maybe your holding a selfie stick? Not sure I would have the presence of mind to be doing photography while that little cutie had my cock in her mouth. But you are a level above me. LOL.[/QUOTE]It's probably one of those new 360 cams that record everything, then you just crop to the view that you want to see. 😉.
The ultimate perverts stealth recorder. ☺65039;.
[URL]https://www.insta360.com/mobile/product/insta360-x3[/URL]
I was told by a girl in Makati that their are Western style strip clubs in Makati / Manila but they are hard to find like an underground club.
Have any of y'll found a Western style strip club in Makati / NCR area?
I would love to visit a club like that here.
Thanks.
Kitty Doctor.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2802662]Your right arm is in a strange position. So maybe your holding a selfie stick? Not sure I would have the presence of mind to be doing photography while that little cutie had my cock in her mouth. But you are a level above me. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2802665]It's probably one of those new 360 cams that record everything, then you just crop to the view that you want to see. 😉.
The ultimate perverts stealth recorder. ☺65039;.
[URL]https://www.insta360.com/mobile/product/insta360-x3[/URL][/QUOTE]You fellas are way ahead of me there. That camera effects look way cool. That gal in the pic was one of two from the ST bars. I can not recall the name of the other girl (taking the pic) and its bugging me. Neither my arm, nor my Johnson, are long enough to hold a selfie stick that far away. I wish. . .
[QUOTE=KittyDoctor;2802695]I was told by a girl in Makati that their are Western style strip clubs in Makati / Manila but they are hard to find like an underground club.
Have any of y'll found a Western style strip club in Makati / NCR area?
I would love to visit a club like that here.[/QUOTE]KD, you would fly thousands of miles to the far east, to find a Western style strip club? You mean like with a pole to dance on? Or other thing?
Alibi bar on Burgos (next to the old Ringside) used to have 3 poles and a nightly show of about 8 ladies doing 1 dance each on the main pole, about 11 pm. However they remodeled back around December and took the poles out. Lips had a pole upstairs but never saw a girl on it. Thats it.
[QUOTE=KittyDoctor;2802695]I was told by a girl in Makati that their are Western style strip clubs in Makati / Manila but they are hard to find like an underground club.
Have any of y'll found a Western style strip club in Makati / NCR area?
I would love to visit a club like that here.
Thanks.
Kitty Doctor.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are referring to by "Western style". A quality dance show where pretty girls put effort and skill into the routine? Partial or full nudity? Both are pretty rare now. Quite often now it's an unplanned, spur of the moment thing. Alcohol and $$$ help.
Your friend was probably refering to some of the clubs that cater more to locals. They are more in your face than the foreigner places but 1/ you need to find them and 2/ probably wise to go with a friendly pinoy. It's often not a wise move to walk in as a lone white newbie.
Good luck. G.
PS of course you could just ask your girl where or even to take you.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2802723]I'm not sure what you are referring to by "Western style". A quality dance show where pretty girls put effort and skill into the routine? Partial or full nudity? Both are pretty rare now. Quite often now it's an unplanned, spur of the moment thing. Alcohol and $$$ help.
Your friend was probably refering to some of the clubs that cater more to locals. They are more in your face than the foreigner places but 1/ you need to find them and 2/ probably wise to go with a friendly pinoy. It's often not a wise move to walk in as a lone white newbie.
Good luck. G.
PS of course you could just ask your girl where or even to take you.[/QUOTE]Ditto. I do venture into these places every once in a while because I like it. As far as in makati, I have never been or heard of any. I have been to a few (many years ago) near the airport in the baclaran area not sure with all the new construction and with resorts world how or if they weathered the changes. When I meet friends in AC they go to fields (not my thing) and I roll in to mabalacat to hit the local bars. Same with olongopo, I like to roll into town to go to the local bars or calapandayan. The local bars all have strip shows and such, some may not have a pole, but it is still the same routine. Now these are not vegas strip girls, so you need to be prepared. Also you will need to be hyper aware of your surroundings (locals) if you go yourself, highly recommend you go with a bunch of locals just to be safe. LMK if you want me to try and dig up some pics.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2802745]As far as in makati, I have never been or heard of any.[/QUOTE]It would be easier and safer just to walk into his favourite Burgos bar, tell a couple of girls what he wants and that there will be a tray of drinks involved and get them to organise it. Most bars have separate rooms and / or quiet corners and the girls can be very resourceful with the right incentive.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. Of course he could go full baller mode and shut the bar. For the uninitiated, that's barfining every girl, they shut the door and the place is his, no rules now apply. Obviously, very expensive, a wild night to remember and best done with a few rich buddies. 😉 😱.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2444106]Who is starving? My advice would be to stop listening to prostitutes hard luck stories that they give to multiple donors.
Most prostitutes have left for their families villages where they can quite happily live off the land, plenty of rice, chickens, vegetables right there in their back gardens / land, plenty of overseas working family members to rely on for extra cash if need be.
As far as no work no pay country then think again, my staff of 120+ have been paid in full till the end of April and then 50% of their salary should the lockdown last longer, even at 50% salary most will be getting 10,000 pesos a month for sitting at home, if you want to help out prostitutes with their claims of I not got food to eat then up to you but Please do educate yourself before making sweeping claims about the phills.[/QUOTE]No starvation in PH.
They line up for the bus to AC to fuck fat foreigners for fun. FFFFF program. Sure NS.
Planning a trip in August. How many days / weeks is good to travel and get a sense of the action and girls?
Max is 2 weeks. I primarily am going for the girls don't care too much about sight seeing. But if there is a beach town like pattaya, it would be fund to spend a few days there enjoying the water and mongering as well.
Any tips for a first timer and planning number of days.
Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better. There are tons of girls that look like that in Thailand and especially in Cambodia. I've read there are alot of thicker girls with tummies there, but are there plenty of skinny looking girls? I like them as well <25 yo.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience. I am primarily there to find spinners, but it would be fun to relax on a beach somehere similar to pattaya where I can do the beach and still bang girls. Any tips or itinerary ideas?
By good fortune (and Google), its International Beaver Day. Get some.
[QUOTE=TitanJones;2804941]Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better. There are tons of girls that look like that in Thailand and especially in Cambodia. I've read there are alot of thicker girls with tummies there, but are there plenty of skinny looking girls? I like them as well <25 yo.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience. I am primarily there to find spinners, but it would be fun to relax on a beach somehere similar to pattaya where I can do the beach and still bang girls. Any tips or itinerary ideas?[/QUOTE]Why not just rock up in the country and find out? Alternatively you could look at the PG for advice. Or another idea is to PM me as too much info for one post.
Look forward to the PM.
[QUOTE=TitanJones;2804941]Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is an archipelago of thousands of islands rather than one contiguous land mass. Consequently girls from various areas have very different physical features and attitudes. There are many areas with slim, spinner type girls. Sub-40 kgs are not a rarity. One slight difference to Thailand is that they will all be short and flat chested. Tall and slim is very hard to find. Tall, slim and big boobs is a unicorn.
Luzon, Lyete and Samar girls feature highly. You can go there or go to the areas that they migrate to in search or work (legitimate or non). Manila, Angeles, Cebu are good starting points. Regional centres can be fun but difficult for newbies to find their bearings immediately upon arrival.
If staying for only 2 weeks, I would pick two or three areas of interest and stay there. Moving between multiple centres can burn up time and money in relocation and finding new opportunities every time.
Water with girls is Subic, Cebu, Sabang and maybe Bohol.
Enjoy. G.
I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:
1. Everyone in the Philippines speaks English. Except Grab drivers. LOL.
2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.
3. Grab vs GCash: I was able to attach my US credit card to my Grab wallet. A big convenience. I was not able to do so with a GCash account, and only realized why when I found out that according to GCash's TOS, the service is only available to Philippine citizens.
4. Its hot. Not warm, not temperate, not balmy. HOT. Ave mid-day temps during my 16 days was mid-90 degrees.
5. Lady boys are present, essentially as described in various discussions and reports. I had no problem spotting them, but then I was never drunk during my visit. Those that I did talk to were freindly and quick to self-identify. Never got the sense that a LB was trying to dupe me.
6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.
7. Hotels:
-Price is not always indicative of quality. Read reviews, send emails with specific questions about specific needs in advance.
-Bring a travel size bar of soap and shampoo. The 1st hotel I stayed at had a shower gel dispenser in the shower that was empty. And it stayed empty while I was there.
-You are almost always within 1-2 blocks of a 7-11 which will have needed items like soap, shampoo, power adapters, and bottled water.
8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.
9. Do the online eTravel forms a day before you fly. Immigrations and customs at NAIA were fast and easy (for a US citizen).
10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.
There probably other observations I could make. But these are most significant I can think of.
Will I return? Most definitely. But it may be 6-12-18+ months before I can actually schedule it.
All in all, I allocated a generous budget of $10,000 USD for my 16-day trip, including Business Class air fare, and I came in within budget. But to be sure, I could have made less expensive decisions if needed.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:
4. Its hot. Not warm, not temperate, not balmy. HOT. Ave mid-day temps during my 16 days was mid-90 degrees.
[/QUOTE]March, April, & May for some reasons seem to be the hottest. This is precisely why if I can only find time to go once a year I choose these months. If you think about it, my condo is extremely comfortable with AC in all rooms. Plus it tends to congregate all the able bodies to places that have AC, the concentration makes my valuable time more focused.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]
2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.
6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.
7. Hotels:
-Price is not always indicative of quality. Read reviews, send emails with specific questions about specific needs in advance.
-Bring a travel size bar of soap and shampoo. The 1st hotel I stayed at had a shower gel dispenser in the shower that was empty. And it stayed empty while I was there.
-You are almost always within 1-2 blocks of a 7-11 which will have needed items like soap, shampoo, power adapters, and bottled water.
8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.
10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.
All in all, I allocated a generous budget of $10,000 USD for my 16-day trip, including Business Class air fare, and I came in within budget. But to be sure, I could have made less expensive decisions if needed.[/QUOTE]Firstly, thanks for your great reports and up-to-date information. Some general responses:
2/. In PI, Google Maps will get you within 100 m of your intended target, then you're on your own. I have no idea why, but it's programmers take great delight to guiding me to the rear of buildings.
6/. There is always going to be guys with their glass half empty and those having fun at a funeral.
7 a /. The same can be said about girls: price and appearance is no guarantee of quality or performance.
7 b&c /. Toiletries are available everywhere. Remember small, <100 ML bottles for any carryon luggage.
8/. Wise is very useful for cash via ATMs and great FX rates.
10 a /. It's very common for girls to insist on covered when within earshot of friends, mamas etc and mysteriously forget behind closed doors. If that's changed, then a major selling point for the PI has disappeared.
10 b /. I'm $10 k per month. That's flying cattle but with an expensive cover story to maintain while travelling.
Thanks again. G.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:[/QUOTE]Great reports.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.[/QUOTE]This has been covered in the past, but not really since Covid. Physical addresses are few / far between. Locations are found more often by landmarks. You are looking for THIS BAR. Google maps might not have it. A given stretch of street in Makati, between two cross-streets, might be 200 meters. There might be 15-20 businesses or homes there. However only 2 of them might be addressed (ie, 2820 Guatemala St). You can send something to anyone there by sending it with their name of it, Care / Of that street address. It will eventually make its way to the recipient. "Robert Dela Vega, 2820 Guatemala St, Brgy Bel-Air, Makati City". Robert does not live at the door marked 2820, but his neighbors do. Hence, few places might have an address.
OTOH, you must know the landmarks to find it yourself. "Sir its near in Robinson's one block over by the 669 Brgy Hall". That's as good as it gets for the taxi driver (and maybe better for the taxi driver than giving him a guess at an address).
Its even difficult for the locals. Few years ago I went to see Robert about a 'thang'. A neighbor said to check at the Brgy hall as they thought Robert was in some kind of Brgy trouble. I walked a few blocks to the Brgy hall and inquired. "No sir he is not in any trouble. Wait sir. We will go to his home and bring him here to chat you". Great: he lives between Hunduras and Yanez streets, on the south side of del Pilar St. Off they went. 20 minutes later they returned without him, unable to find his place, just a few blocks away. I offered to go back over with them. They declined, it was after 5 pm, they told me to come back the next day. How on earth could they NOT find his place? I narrowed it down to one side of Del Pilar, between two cross streets. I walked back over there myself, thinking I'd lost my own mind. There was the house, as described. A local said to me: "They were looking for him. But one block over there. Tell them that Robert lives at the #7 water station. Then they will know it". And yes, right there, was a large water tower marked "Station #7".
Its hit / miss.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.[/QUOTE]Spot on!
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.[/QUOTE]Ya. They charge an up-front fee ($10 USD) and give a crappy exchange rate. Just wait and buy it from any of the several money exchangers just after luggage pick-up at NAIA.
[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2805302]10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.[/QUOTE]Condoms rarely used to be asked for. But bargirls can use it as a weapon (and they are aware of it). Once you've paid the barfine, if she insists on a condom, she knows a percentage of gents won't pull the trigger. You get mad and send her home (or she goes back to the bar) and gets her share of the barfine for doing: Nothing. Effing covid.
Any item that is a deal-breaker for a gent should be discussed up-front before pulling the barfine trigger. So says Westy (resident Board vibe-killer).
1 of the top 3 most scary moments.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2805460]1 of the top 3 most scary moments.[/QUOTE]And what happened after?
[QUOTE=Transporter;2805460]1 of the top 3 most scary moments.[/QUOTE]Is it yours?
Probably, but it was taken care of.
Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw[/URL]
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2806879]Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw[/URL]
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL][/QUOTE]Both in bound and outbound I believe.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2806879]Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw[/URL]
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL][/QUOTE]I thought you had to fill out a departure one too but when I showed them they said they only care about arrival and didn't even look at my departure.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2806879]Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw[/URL]
[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL][/QUOTE]No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2806938]No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.[/QUOTE]Need to do it for departures. Valid from April 15.
[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/images/News/2023_Yr/03_Mar/2023Mar31_Press.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pickley;2806929]I thought you had to fill out a departure one too but when I showed them they said they only care about arrival and didn't even look at my departure.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2806938]No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.[/QUOTE]For those who watched the vids, it starts April 15.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2806953]For those who watched the vids, it starts April 15.[/QUOTE]Thanks Muttley. See pic, from BI website.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2806966]Thanks Muttley. See pic, from BI website.[/QUOTE]I'm going on holiday in a couple of weeks. Received an SMS from PAL this afternoon confirming requirements.
"Cebu Pacific is proud to resume flights to and from Clark International Airport. Starting this April, fly easy directly from Clark to 15 destinations including Philippine destinations Boracay, Davao, Bacolod, Iloilo and Cebu. Every Juan can also fly to from Clark to Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, Bangkok and more! Additional flights to even more destinations are opening in May and beyond, so stay tuned and get ready to book! To really let every Juan fly, CEB is getting three (3) additional aircraft to be based in Clark, on top of the previously announced ten (10) Airbus NEO aircraft to be delivered this year! This furthers the airline's goal to truly fly every Juan to their destination of choice. With CEB's low fares and wide connectivity from Manila, Cebu, Davao, and now Clark, every Juan can fly and fulfill their travel bucket list with ease. Don't wait".
Looks like more flights are going to start out of Clarke in Angeles city come the end of May. See direct a direct flight to Bangkok, Singapore and several other cities.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2809727]"Cebu Pacific is proud to resume flights to and from Clark International Airport. Starting this April, fly easy directly from Clark to 15 destinations including Philippine destinations Boracay, Davao, Bacolod, Iloilo and Cebu. Every Juan can also fly to from Clark to Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, Bangkok and more! Additional flights to even more destinations are opening in May and beyond, so stay tuned and get ready to book! To really let every Juan fly, CEB is getting three (3) additional aircraft to be based in Clark, on top of the previously announced ten (10) Airbus NEO aircraft to be delivered this year! This furthers the airline's goal to truly fly every Juan to their destination of choice. With CEB's low fares and wide connectivity from Manila, Cebu, Davao, and now Clark, every Juan can fly and fulfill their travel bucket list with ease. Don't wait".
Looks like more flights are going to start out of Clarke in Angeles city come the end of May. See direct a direct flight to Bangkok, Singapore and several other cities.[/QUOTE]BM great catch. Just found one direct from my province to CRK. So, backpack in hand, I could be nuts deep in AC gogo poon 2 hours after wheels up for $30. Yes!
I'm at airport, in typical fashion I completed eTravel requirements and at no point have I been asked to show a QR code.
I'the still do it if I were you, maybe immigration was having a bad day.
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2812688]I'm at airport, in typical fashion I completed eTravel requirements and at no point have I been asked to show a QR code.
Id still do it if I were you, maybe immigration was having a bad day.[/QUOTE]Just an FYI. I arrived Manila three days ago on PAL. I was asked for my E Travel QR code in LAX before getting my boarding pass and again after arriving going through Manila airport Immigration.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2812767]Just an FYI. I arrived Manila three days ago on PAL. I was asked for my E Travel QR code in LAX before getting my boarding pass and again after arriving going through Manila airport Immigration.[/QUOTE]Coming into Manila it's completely standard. Please see posts below, you also now need to register when leaving Philippines. As I said in post however, I did not need to show QR code to exit.
As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2816295]As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.[/QUOTE]It is like this everywhere. The activity on the threads in all the Asian countries is a fraction of what it was in 2019.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2816295]As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2816375]It is like this everywhere. The activity on the threads in all the Asian countries is a fraction of what it was in 2019.[/QUOTE]Well then, more trim available for you and me. Bring your vitamins, start your engines.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2816295]As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.[/QUOTE]Flight costs maybe?
Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2816586]Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.[/QUOTE]Yes, the airfares are sky high. NY JFK to MNL on Philippine Airlines is routinely $2500-3000 if booked less than 3 months in advance. Gone are the days of just deciding to go on a trip just a few weeks in advance.
I've booked two trips with Phil air both more than 4 months in advance and the price was $1200 approx which I consider reasonable.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2816557]Flight costs maybe?[/QUOTE]Regardless the reason, it seems to be happening elsewhere. These were posts from a few days ago in the BKK Reports / Thailand section:
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2816240]The report I have seen, and attached link below, says that visitor numbers were down 20% week on week from one year ago for first week of May.
[URL]https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/economy/40027431[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2816224]You could be right.
Still let's use 1,000,000 in April. Still a Huge drop from Pre Coronavirus. Pre was approching 4,000,000 a month.
Thailand has lost its Mojo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Betong;2816175]You were misinformed. International arrivals in April 2022 were just short of 300,000. In April 2023,2. 1 million. For a better indicator of tourism to Thailand I'd suggest places like Terminal 21 or Platinum Mall. They're jammed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2816586]Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.[/QUOTE]Yes they are, very high especially from East Coast of US. Prior to the COVID lockdown tickets were 1000 or $1200 then ID add a better legroom seat and bump it to 14 to $1500,Not cheap but not too bad. Couple months ago it went to $1800 in the back crap seat but I needed to go. Now I thought I might go back next month $2000 and above! This is ridiculous. This is not inflation not in 2 years this is the airlines trying to rape people to make up for lost revenue. Not that I blame them as my flights were packed, all of them. What happened to the population is hurting after COVID as allot did not work and times are going to be tight. Looking at airports you would never know this. Then you add 50 bucks a night in a decent condo or hotel 14 days (my minimum) 700 to $800 plus taxes and your looking at 3 grand just to get there and have a bed. This is insane. The reason we go is lots of choices and cost of the ladies. This is not cost effective, I imagine but never tried you can get US hookers for 500 bucks maybe not Filipina quality, but still easier and allot less trouble. Bar girls are texting me that customer traffic is down, wonder why??Cost girls as its insane now, at least from US 100000 p just to get there. WTF! Really, jesus no wonder we don't have customers. You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2817044]WTF! Really, jesus no wonder we don't have customers. You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.[/QUOTE]You've made the Pattaya case.
I hear you on the US domestic airfare issue. A few months ago while looking at prices, I found MNL / SFO for just under $800 OW (12 hours flying and 7,000 miles straight line, 11.4 cents per mile). A cheap flight from SFO to Chicago OW was $490 all in (4 hours flying and 1846 miles, 26.5 cents per mile). Domestic travel in the US is pricey. And in my opinion, on all such domestic aircraft, some of the crappiest and uncomfortable seats ever. OITNB, and these non-adjustable hard plastic seats are solidly in place on all airlines (you can pay to upgrade to seats with a better pitch -- more legroom -- but not to a seat that lays back or has more cushion).
[URL]https://www.airmilescalculator.com/[/URL] (Caution slow website).
I've been considering a trip (from Sydney) to Japan later this year, and looking at prices I see PAL is offering fares as low as US $600 return with stop overs in MNL.
I'd consider spending a couple of days in Manilla to sample some of the delights I read about here.
What is the general consensus about the service on PAL?
Live in Philippines, just returned from two week break to Thailand where I spent one week in Bangkok and one week in Pattaya. From a gogo bar and massage shop perspective what is available in both Bangkok and Pattaya far exceeds number and quality of girls available in Burgos and Angeles. Majority of bars in both Bangkok and Pattaya offered some level of nudity in bars, with some providing fully naked girls on stage and walking around. Powers of negotiation in such bars was reduced. There are some great girls in Philippines bars, but you have to look a lot harder for them.
For dating regular girls Philippines wins out for me due to frequent availability of girls that speak English to higher degree. Would imagine conversations with majority of Thai women are a bit similar if you don't know language.
I love living in Philippines, but if money were no option, I think I'the probably choose Thailand for a holiday, or to live full time if retiring and watching world go by.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2817044]You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.[/QUOTE]I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2817382]I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.[/QUOTE]Haha we should start our own "Pattaya" thread here. It is what you make of it.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2817225]I've been considering a trip (from Sydney) to Japan later this year, and looking at prices I see PAL is offering fares as low as US $600 return with stop overs in MNL.
I'd consider spending a couple of days in Manilla to sample some of the delights I read about here.
What is the general consensus about the service on PAL?[/QUOTE]I travelled economy on Pal and its ok. Not much different to Qantas.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2817382]I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If I was located anywhere in S. E. A. I would just stay put as many options are available. Out of boredom or maybe variety I may move around a bit occasionally but for the most part no. I do prefer Philippines for their English but other than that Asian girls are Asian girls. Anything beats the pussy hell hole of US, so any SEA destination would be great. Year or two I can retire and buy a one way ticket to a Asia location, after that it can go to $50000 a ticket and I won't give a shit.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2817773]Agreed. If I was located anywhere in S. E. A. I would just stay put as many options are available. Out of boredom or maybe variety I may move around a bit occasionally but for the most part no. I do prefer Philippines for their English but other than that Asian girls are Asian girls. Anything beats the pussy hell hole of US, so any SEA destination would be great. Year or two I can retire and buy a one way ticket to a Asia location, after that it can go to $50000 a ticket and I won't give a shit.[/QUOTE]Not sure if your job or skillset allows but securing an overseas posting resembles a major lotto win. Hard to beat being paid to be in paradise.
Don't forget the most important part of an expat posting: negotiating allowances due to the tremendous strain you will be put under 🤔.
HA is a Hardship Allowance due to the incredible difficulty of being locked in paradise.
CoLA is a Cost of Living Allowance to assist with $5 beers and $20 pussy.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2817251]
I love living in Philippines, but if money were no option, I think I'the probably choose Thailand for a holiday, or to live full time if retiring and watching world go by.[/QUOTE]I was thinking maybe take a Filipina to Thailand, just have to find an "adult" orphan from an orphanage with not many orphans. Don't want to support an entire orphanage. LOL Need a Filipina Orphan dating app.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2817894]Not sure if your job or skillset allows but securing an overseas posting resembles a major lotto win. Hard to beat being paid to be in paradise.
[/QUOTE]My first posting to Manila was in 1997 for 3 months and, 27 years later, I am still here AND still working too.
However, my number 1 rule is to stay way below the radar and to carefully think through any activities that might be border-line questionable. In today's litigious environment, one false step or error of judgement can destroy a career.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2817957]My first posting to Manila was in 1997 for 3 months and, 27 years later, I am still here AND still working too.
However, my number 1 rule is to stay way below the radar and to carefully think through any activities that might be border-line questionable. In today's litigious environment, one false step or error of judgement can destroy a career.[/QUOTE]There are exceptions but most expat contracts are now 2 or 3 years. The start up costs, especially relocating and schooling a whole family, mean that it's hard to justify shorter terms.
Yes, it's very common for those contracts to be rolled over several times. From the employers side a known performer is much less of a risk than a newbie. Surprisingly, many arrive and for what ever reason aren't suited and are back home at the first opportunity. Keeping your nose clean is definitely a required skill. Again, many arrive and go completely overboard and wonder why their contracts are not renewed.
Cheers. G.
Some general info. Tourist numbers in Phils and comparisons. From [URL]Statistica.com[/URL].
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/789709/mexico-number-of-tourist-arrivals/[/URL]
And such.
From the Wise remit website, a list of online remittance services and their exchange rates compared to Wise, for a sample $1000 USD send to Phils pesos. WorldRemit had the best, Wise had one of the worst. Exchange rates are constantly in flux.
[URL]wise.com/us/compare/[/URL]
United Airlines will begin nonstop service from San Francisco to Manila, daily, from October 29.
Let's see how the collision between cutthroat American business competitiveness and the PAL monopoly plays out.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2837818]United Airlines will begin nonstop service from San Francisco to Manila, daily, from October 29.
Let's see how the collision between cutthroat American business competitiveness and the PAL monopoly plays out.[/QUOTE]That's awesome news. Hopefully, the competition will result in lower airfares.
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2838194]That's awesome news. Hopefully, the competition will result in lower airfares.
RG.[/QUOTE]Can't wait to book it. Decent departure and arrivals times.
What's the escort scene in Boracay like?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2839108]What's the escort scene in Boracay like?[/QUOTE]Not really good. In my experience, the best option is to find someone you gel with elsewhere in the Philippines, and bring her with you to Boracay.
RG.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2839108]What's the escort scene in Boracay like?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2818878&highlight=Boracay[/URL]#post2818878.
Check out this recent post above. I'm going in late October and don't want to drag a girl along as it will be several days. Hopefully will find short time GF! Or three. Or four.
Hey guys!
Making very early plans for the Philippines this winter. Last time I visited Makati for mongering and Palawan for tourism. Looking for another spot with worthwhile tourism that would also offer access to some nightly young natural GFE. This would supplement my time in Manila, which will be primarily focused on mongering. Don't like scuba or surfing, but snorkeling, sailing, hiking, etc. Would be great. After scouring ISG, I am thinking of mixing time at Makati with Panglao / Bohol. Should I try to include Cebu or Angeles or Subic or Boracay instead? Or is Panglao a decent choice?
Here's what I've read on the forum: Makati has the best looking girls, the only advantage of Angeles is price, Cebu is not easy like Makati, Cebu is a fairly ugly city, Subic has a poop river dumping into the ocean, Alona Beach on Panglao had some decent bars with bar girls and lots of tourism options, but most of the ISG recommended places for girls (Spiked coconut, Animes bar, and Pinerella bar) have closed since COVID, so you may be stuck looking online for that part of the trip.
I like variety, so I don't plan to bring Makati sand to Alona beach.
Suggestions for a 2 week trip? I just need a ballpark sense of whether Panglao is the right choice to supplement Makati or if I should look elsewhere. Before you tell me to RTFF, read some of my extensive and detailed reports from around the world.
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2839376]Hey guys!
Making very early plans for the Philippines this winter. Last time I visited Makati for mongering and Palawan for tourism. Looking for another spot with worthwhile tourism that would also offer access to some nightly young natural GFE. This would supplement my time in Manila, which will be primarily focused on mongering. Don't like scuba or surfing, but snorkeling, sailing, hiking, etc. Would be great. After scouring ISG, I am thinking of mixing time at Makati with Panglao / Bohol. Should I try to include Cebu or Angeles or Subic or Boracay instead? Or is Panglao a decent choice?[/QUOTE]Stay in Davao with day / overnight trips to Samal (beaches, relax, snorkel), water falls, national parks?
Same for Coron. It's more diver focussed but some sites can be snorkeled and there are many land based day tours. Not as many girls on tap though.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2839737]Stay in Davao with day / overnight trips to Samal (beaches, relax, snorkel), water falls, national parks?
Same for Coron. It's more diver focussed but some sites can be snorkeled and there are many land based day tours. Not as many girls on tap though.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the ideas! Call me a pussy, but given the history of Islamic extremism and unrest in Mindanao, I have always kept that off of my list. Coron is a live possibility. I loved Palawan, but mongering was pretty limited. I'll do some more reading!
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2839753]Thanks for the ideas! Call me a pussy, but given the history of Islamic extremism and unrest in Mindanao, I have always kept that off of my list. Coron is a live possibility. I loved Palawan, but mongering was pretty limited. I'll do some more reading![/QUOTE]Ok, you're a pussy. 😜.
All jokes a side, Davao is perfectly safe. Not sure if you know but, before shooting drug dealers as President, Duerte was mayor of Davao City and he had the same attitude then. Upsetting regular citizens in Davao is a sure way for your relatives to receive a message that you committed suicide while in police lockup.
I felt perfectly safe walking home through the back streets at 3 am. Never had any issues at all.
Enjoy. G.
So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?
Which province other than Manila has the best mongering in the Philippines?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2839893]Which province other than Manila has the best mongering in the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Depends on what you prefer. Bar girls then Angeles. Dating site girls Cebu.
[QUOTE=ZenForth;2839874]So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2840036]Yes, exactly.[/QUOTE]Well I bareback everywhere in the world. I just come back from Colombia, and I didn't use any condoms. Girls told me in Colombia most of the men don't use condoms. And girls say yes all the time if you pay more.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2840130]Well I bareback everywhere in the world. I just come back from Colombia, and I didn't use any condoms. Girls told me in Colombia most of the men don't use condoms. And girls say yes all the time if you pay more.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2840036]Yes, exactly.[/QUOTE]I was being a bit snarky. I meant that its mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. Its best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2840183]I was being a bit snarky. I meant that it’s mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. It’s best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.[/QUOTE]That's my strategy. I let them know that I'm allergic to latex, and have sometimes paid for my GF to get a depo shot ahead of time to prevent pregnancy.
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
RG.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2840183]I was being a bit snarky. I meant that its mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. Its best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2840199]That's my strategy. I let them know that I'm allergic to latex, and have sometimes paid for my GF to get a depo shot ahead of time to prevent pregnancy.
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
RG.[/QUOTE]Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2840205]Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? [/QUOTE]A decade. A girl from Brown Sugar, whom I had taken at 2:30 am (they closed at 3 am). In the bar she'd agreed to no condom, then as the deed was about to begin in the room she insisted on a condom. "Mama says we must protect ourselves". When I said no thanks, she hopped off the bed, dressed quietly, and left. It was too late to go back to the bar and complain.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2840205]I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.[/QUOTE]Same. A year prior to covid, a provincial girl that I'd been with for 5-ish years, who bussed into town, was with me in a convenience store. In line to pay, she pointed to a box of Durex and whispered: "We should?" I nodded NO, and that was the end of that. She was in town with me for 4 nights. She was so upset about not using a condom that the little hornier-than-me devil-ette blistered and drained my schwanztooga down to a whimper with her need for sex every 2-3-4 hours. She's pictured in the PG several times.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2840205]Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I was negotiating with a couple of bar girls for an off the books threesome. After we agreed on the price, they said condom needed. So the deal fell through. Sometimes in a threesome deal each girl has to show the other that she uses condoms. Having said that, I have had numerous threesomes where I pull out of one pussy into another pussy or mouth with no restrictions also.
Yeah, this is true. When there's more than one girl they often feel shamed by the other girl if they don't use a condom. I detailed this experience in a long ago report. As for solo girls. One from Atlantis demanded, and I acquiesced. Second time it happened it was from Atlantis also, and this happened back at my room. So I sent her on her way I and went to HiSo and got what I wanted. 3rd time. Was about to take a girl from Atlantis and she set the condom ground rules before the barfine and I said peace out. That being said, my favorite girl ever (non civilian) was from Atlantis, and bare, so, moral of the story. Life is complicated. I don't negotiate beforehand because when you are in PI your chances are like 98%.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2840359]I was negotiating with a couple of bar girls for an off the books threesome. After we agreed on the price, they said condom needed. So the deal fell through. Sometimes in a threesome deal each girl has to show the other that she uses condoms. Having said that, I have had numerous threesomes where I pull out of one pussy into another pussy or mouth with no restrictions also.[/QUOTE]
Do those of you that usually bareback, take any meds or do anything else as a precaution to reduce the chance of catching something?
Or do you take your chances and deal with anything that arises afterwards?
[QUOTE=Gonz0;2840438]Do those of you that usually bareback, take any meds or do anything else as a precaution to reduce the chance of catching something?
Or do you take your chances and deal with anything that arises afterwards?[/QUOTE]I never go to bargirls or any clearly P4 P service providers. I like to select my babe a few weeks ahead of time, first on Tinder then followed by chat and video cam sessions, during which I broach the whole condom issue. On several occasions, once I got to know a lady, I arranged for her to get a depo shot a couple of weeks before my arrival.
I know, all of this sounds like a lot of trouble, but for me it's paid off in spades. I've never had any problems, and haven't used a damn condom in over 20 years.
RG.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2840205]Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I haven't used a condom in over 20 years. I invest the time and effort usually a month or several weeks ahead of time before my trip to settle one a non-pro I want to have a GFE with. None have ever demanded a condom. And frequently, if they say online that they shave, they agree to stop shaving so that they have a decent Bush by the time I arrive.
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2840199]
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
[/QUOTE]A recent shave is ok but I hate a spiky pussy. But full on au naturale Bush can be a ***** much some trimming is welcome. Girl with hair from the booty hole to the hips can be an acquired taste. Doesn't sound as crazy as it is until you go down there for a close up. I usually run into this the deeper I make it into the province, they hide a full on a clown wig in their panty's. "I'm shy I didn't shave" I say "OK" and POOOF! One reason I do this is because if you eat them out after they wash you get a giant mouth full of soap, they very rarely get all the soap out of the jungle.
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840478]A recent shave is ok but I hate a spiky pussy. But full on au naturale Bush can be a ***** much some trimming is welcome. Girl with hair from the booty hole to the hips can be an acquired taste. Doesn't sound as crazy as it is until you go down there for a close up. I usually run into this the deeper I make it into the province, they hide a full on a clown wig in their panty's. "I'm shy I didn't shave" I say "OK" and POOOF! One reason I do this is because if you eat them out after they wash you get a giant mouth full of soap, they very rarely get all the soap out of the jungle.[/QUOTE]Well, I came of age in the 1970's, back when pussy shaving was completely unheard of. I loved the thick bushes on the hippie chicks I grew up with, so I acquired that particular taste decades ago. LOL.
I have to say Air Asia female flight attendants are mighty fine looking especially in the red uniforms and heels. Most have beautifully long wavy hair, right amount of make up, posture and the walk. Proportionate weight to height.
I am wondering what is their pay scale?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2840897]I have to say Air Asia female flight attendants are mighty fine looking especially in the red uniforms and heels. Most have beautifully long wavy hair, right amount of make up, posture and the walk. Proportionate weight to height.
I am wondering what is their pay scale?[/QUOTE]+p2000 every time she departs my place, freshly vaccinated with a smile on her face, on her way back to the airport for this afternoon's flight.
BTW, do we have a new domestic airline?
[URL]https://sunlightair.ph/[/URL]
I was looking for some telegram groups to scout for an upcoming trip to AC. I saw a post that said it is better to go to IG and search for the best hash tags. But I have no idea what hashtag to look for. #Angelescity and #balibago don't get me anything good and I'm not finding anything under #angelescity combined with #walker. What should I be searching for?
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2843927]I was looking for some telegram groups to scout for an upcoming trip to AC. I saw a post that said it is better to go to IG and search for the best hash tags. But I have no idea what hashtag to look for. #Angelescity and #balibago don't get me anything good and I'm not finding anything under #angelescity combined with #walker. What should I be searching for?[/QUOTE]No good looking girl wants to openly advertise that she's a hooker on #walkingstreet. Better to search the highend clubs and hotels to check who has pics and / or followed. Then it's the friends of friends worm hole.
It takes time, is definitely not point and shoot and expect the usual IG princess dramas.
Enjoy. G.
For the dude looking for a code word, #walkers is often used. I have looked it up myself but as the Philippines is awash with walkers, no need to sweat it. Here is an academic paper of sorts on it [URL]https://serialsjournals.com/abstract/49658_1385-1404.pdf[/URL].
I see the Philippines and China have both removed the need for non vaxxed to get tested. This is interesting as the doom and gloom lot say Covid is back big time.
I am planning an early 2024 trip (I have other more upmarket trips planned for 2023) but I would prefer no surprises with this Covid crap, stuck in the Philippines with walkers impaling themselves on me for months on end until I am allowed flee.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2847729]SNIP but I would prefer no surprises with this Covid crap, [b]stuck in the Philippines with walkers impaling themselves on me for months on end[/b] until I am allowed flee.[/QUOTE]If its a man's time to shuffle off this mortal coil, that ain't a bad way to go.
I posted this in the Indonesia forum. Millions of dollars to get a 10-year visa in Indo. Compare to $10,000 USD (+ $360 yearly) to get a lifetime retirement visa in Phils. I understand there is similar to Phils for Thailand. And Cambodia possibly has a better one, that can simply be purchased at inbound Immigration when landing ($300 USD good for one year, extendable indefinitely)? Anyway:
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2849239]From today's news:
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/indonesia-offers-golden-visa-entice-foreign-investors-2023-09-03/[/URL]
[B]Jakarta (Reuters) - Indonesia is introducing a golden visa scheme to attract foreign individual and corporate investors in an attempt to boost its national economy, a statement from the ministry of law and human rights distributed on Sunday said.
"The golden visa is granting a residence permit for an extended period of five to 10 years," director general of immigration, Silmy Karim said in the statement.
The five-year visa requires individual investors to set up a company worth $2. 5 million, while for the 10 years visa, a $5 million investment is required.
[/B][I]SNIP.[/I].
[B]Meanwhile, corporate investors are required to invest $25 million to get five-year visas for directors and commissioners. They need to invest double, or $50 million, to gain a 10 year visa.
Different provisions apply to individual foreign investors who do not want to establish a company in the Southeast Asian country. The requirements range from $350,000 to $700,000 in funds that can be used to purchase the Indonesian government bonds.[/B]
Pocket change.[/QUOTE]
I googled the above and clicked through on a few links, most of which were Manila clinics using the same info (plagiarism). Though I know the women in clubs get tested (let's leave quality control issues aside), the STI rats should be off the charts, given condom use etc is minimal. I was also amazed the Phils was not hit harder by HIV / Aids. I have watched documentaries on Angeles women who contracted it.
The Koreans have a low level of STI disease, unlike Westerners. However, the Phils is an enigma, banging away like bunny rabbits and few give a flying FK about diseases.
[QUOTE=ZenForth;2839874]So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?[/QUOTE]What is multi barebacking?? What advanced form of mongering is this.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2849259]However, the Phils is an enigma, banging away like bunny rabbits and few give a flying FK about diseases.[/QUOTE]That's the rumor. Them pina been a-doin' thangs they hadn't orta been a-doin'.
[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2849925]What is multi barebacking?? What advanced form of mongering is this.[/QUOTE]A three-some maybe?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2849979]A three-some maybe?[/QUOTE]I was thinking of girls lined up side by side, on all fours, and having to make your way down the line, before the fun starts again at the beginning of the line. .
Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.
[QUOTE=SteveW;2850908]Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen your previous post but why would you buy "her" a laptop? If she is into making money online (how? She would know where and how to buy crap like that and at the appropriate price. If she is a hooker type, she would most likely sell the laptop There were previous discussions about lazada etc with people professsing scepticism.
She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2850930]I haven't seen your previous post but why would you buy "her" a laptop? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SteveW;2850908]Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.[/QUOTE]You can use Amazon with free shipping. Funny is if you choose the quicker delivery which will cost you but the import deposit fee drops quite a bit. It works out cheaper and quicker delivery for you. Just an FYI to you.
I won't ask you why would you do this as it is none of my business nor any of my concern what anyone does here.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=SteveW;2850998]She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.[/QUOTE]I really like Lazada, but I wouldn't use it for a laptop purchase. Scams run there, like anywhere else, and that is a significant purchase. If you do choose it, narrow your search to LazMall. It is usually a bit more expensive, but also more reputable retailers.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2851118]I won't ask you why would you do this as it is none of my business nor any of my concern what anyone does here.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SteveW;2850998]She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.[/QUOTE]DG is far more polite than me so I'll point out the pitfalls of a "my girl is different" mentality. Many, many guys have thought the same over the years. Odds are very high that said laptop will be used for other income streams far more lucrative than a Virtual Assistant. If she's smart enough to find you, then she's smart enough to have other benefactors at the same time.
However, if you think you are being fairly compensated, then more power to you.
Have you considered going direct to the laptop manufacturers? Many have good online stores and shipping options. Dell jumps to mind.
Good luck. G.
Dell is a great shout!
The way I see it is that sending cash is definitely a lost cause. As the old proverb says, if you give a (wo) man a fish you feed her for one day. Teach her to fish. You get the picture.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2851280]DG is far more polite than me so I'll point out the pitfalls of a "my girl is different" mentality. Many, many guys have thought the same over the years. Odds are very high that said laptop will be used for other income streams far more lucrative than a Virtual Assistant. If she's smart enough to find you, then she's smart enough to have other benefactors at the same time.
However, if you think you are being fairly compensated, then more power to you.
Have you considered going direct to the laptop manufacturers? Many have good online stores and shipping options. Dell jumps to mind.
Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]
A week into my two week trip to the phils I had to go back early to the USA so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati.
They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
Expedia bailed me out with a last minute one way ticket for $814.
As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2851548]so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati. They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?[/QUOTE]Yes, Phils. That is standard practice at all airlines, and has been for a decade: You pay the fee to make any change ($100 for some airlines and domestic flights, several hundred $ for other airlines and Int'l flights). You also pay the difference in the new flight cost. As you need to fly NOW, you will probably pay Biz class prices ($1500-ish) for an economy seat ($800-ish). CP and PAL went to that when the US airlines did way back when. Its a sure-fire way to deter you from making any changes (other than a Bereavement flight). I changed my KAL flight just before Covid, $600 in damage. See pics of PAL's website with prices of an economy ticket MNL-LAX for tomorrow (Sept 14), one way. And corresponding costs (read: penalties) for making changes. Want to change your flight, you pay. Cancel your flight, you pay. Don't show for your flight, you pay. Do check that 1-way Economy Flex price for the 10 pm flight ($2156; at these prices, bring the whole family).
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2851548]As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.[/QUOTE]Very valid point. The fast-fooding effect continues. I could be wrong, but the following appears to have occurred. The economy continues to rise, while the food desires of the people remain the same: They still think a trip to Jollibee for ChickenJoy is THE BOMB. More people crowd into fast food joints. You must push further into the province to find a slate of thin ladies. Go west (well, south) young man.
Thailand. Go to Thailand.
[QUOTE=DashingDon;2851548]A week into my two week trip to the phils I had to go back early to the USA so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati.
They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
Expedia bailed me out with a last minute one way ticket for $814.
As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?[/QUOTE]There are all kinds of different charges now. If I want to fly to Phils with a ME airline, there are all kinds of options, some of which but not all, add on, at a cost, the option of changing return flight. All airlines now have more aggressive, "competitive pricing structures. Not nice but it is not a nice industry. The Makati office would also need their cut.
Expedia were nice to you and / or you were lucky. I tend to book only with airlines as I find the scraper sites very iffy. Good value but iffy. [URL]Lastminute.com[/URL], . For example, often offer cheap as chips prices the actual airline cannot meet and their trustpilot etc reviews are in the toilet.
Girls are much heavier everywhere, bar those into doing tiktok fitness videos. It is not just jolibee but an entire culture that is whale friendly. Sometimes we get funny videos of fat South Sea type girls beating up whippets but it is not funny being with a bucket of lard, anywhere.
I changed a ticket at CdeG Paris years ago in what was really a life defining change for me. It was not THAT expensive at the time but it was not a total bargain but Air France needed their $$ and, as already said, the game has changed.
"As a long term visitor", it would be nice for you to expound further on the value of flying to the Phils in these changing times. There are many minuses for kids flying half way round the world to a candy store but, larded up and all as it is, there ain't nothing better or nearer around.
As regards the old times,. I am now reading a charming book about travelling through SE Asia in 1950. A lost paradise that was vanishing even then.
Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.
I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say £650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like [URL]lastminute.com[/URL] I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?
[QUOTE=Jarango;2853566]I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say 650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like [URL]lastminute.com[/URL] I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?[/QUOTE]I don know what to tell you to do not anyone else can. I can tell you that I have used skyscannner and got tickets have price for domestic Philippine flights to my astonishment.
[QUOTE=TitanJones;2853508]Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]I have experienced this. Just ignored it. Then again I have limited social circle to risk. Nothing happened. I'm sure if you pay you will pay forever.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2853566]I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say 650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like [URL]lastminute.com[/URL] I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?[/QUOTE]I use Kayak quite often to save a few bucks. The only issue I run into is that some of the deals are not available when I try to buy them. Kayak is mostly "normal" flights. You can find some really cheap flights using cheapo air and similar sites, but they may be really long, multiple legs with overnight layovers, etc. It really depends what your tolerance is. Just stay away from one's that look too cheap or try to connect you with travel agents.
[QUOTE=TitanJones;2853508]Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, this is common. Best thing you can do is to block and do damage control. She may share it or she may not. Maybe put out that you have been hacked. Take this as a lesson. Never do this on live video call. Better to send video that isn't identifiable. No face, nothing identifiable about where you are, especially if you're living with a partner. I hope it all works out for you.
[QUOTE=TitanJones;2853508]Next I get a message on IG which shows that she [/QUOTE]I do not know how common this is but I do know a. A Pinay lady invented this scam which is real. 2. People have suicided after they were exposed so they do follow through. 3. Romanians were arrested for bribing a young guy into suicide, 4. NEVER show your dick. Anyone asking for that is either a gay (not a ladyboy) or a scammer. Women are not into looking at dicks. Just join pinalove and see them all saying no dick pics. 5. You may or may not get bribed, depending on whether your face pic is there or not. Say you were drunk / stoned / hypnotised / on medication but be prepared. 6. And never ever repeat.
I checked the travel up company again. Guy got a great write up in the Sunday Times but it gets horrid reviews on trust pilot etc, as companies often do. There are a few others offering roughly similar prices but I have my doubts. I think I may be better paying £100 or so extra and avoiding this shit. I have flown Australia-Europe back in the day when you could get drunk on board and prices varied greatly from one passenger to another but I think there is no way they or those like them could so hammer other outlets. There was a London based crew offering similarly priced gigs but I cannot find them now. Cebu Air is offering 1 PHP flights. I wish they would offer 1 PHP hookers.
[URL]https://www.bluelotusvacations.uk/[/URL]
These are the guys I was looking for. They are all over social media. Always £100 or more cheaper than the cheapest (like travel up). Check them on trust pilot and they have5* but read deeper they write the reviews themselves. I guess the scrapers are 98% ok but if you are one of the 2% or if you hit a dodgy company, not good.
[QUOTE=Aml3740;2853782]Unfortunately, this is common. Best thing you can do is to block and do damage control. She may share it or she may not. Maybe put out that you have been hacked. Take this as a lesson. Never do this on live video call. Better to send video that isn't identifiable. No face, nothing identifiable about where you are, especially if you're living with a partner. I hope it all works out for you.[/QUOTE]I'd agree. Also, Facebook and similar are notorious for friends of friends recommendations. Does anyone want a 19 yo hooker recommended to their workmates, friends or family? The best scenario is to run a parallel account with limited contacts. Even then I would be extremely cautious. Certainly no dick pics or conversations with potentially young girls.
This is another argument for not even making contact until the guy is boots in the ground, in country. Asking to meet face to face and in person is a good way to weed out online scammers.
Good luck to the OP.
G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2853913]I'd agree. Also, Facebook and similar are notorious for friends of friends recommendations. G.[/QUOTE]There is a "new" one there where a Chinese chick (yeah right) befriends you as you are interesting (if she wants to know what it is like to talk to a guy who had his dick in 10000+ hookers). "She" plays the long game and get you into crypto and then hits you hard. I spoke to a digital nomad who said those scams are only the shallow end of the pool and there are some real experts floating about. The 101 is if a chick wants to see dick, run.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2853860]I checked the travel up company again. Guy got a great write up in the Sunday Times but it gets horrid reviews on trust pilot etc, as companies often do. There are a few others offering roughly similar prices but I have my doubts. I think I may be better paying 100 or so extra and avoiding this shit. I have flown Australia-Europe back in the day when you could get drunk on board and prices varied greatly from one passenger to another but I think there is no way they or those like them could so hammer other outlets. There was a London based crew offering similarly priced gigs but I cannot find them now. Cebu Air is offering 1 PHP flights. I wish they would offer 1 PHP hookers.[/QUOTE]I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.
Prices of flights booked direct with the airlines also vary wildly with dirt cheap flights occasionally available. Google Flights is a good option here. Punch in the intended departure and arrival airport and I can search flight and prices several months ahead. It's not unusual to see prices vary by 300% at different times of the year. Obviously, stay away from major holidays and school breaks.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2853917]I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.....Google Flights is a good option here....Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Air China are offering good prices form London and Rome. Turkish Airways good too. I have used both before. Air China cabin crew look like they don't take any crap.
I guess the aggregators bump people a lot, sell a few seats at the advertised price and mess others about. Too messy for me too.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2853916]There is a "new" one there where a Chinese chick (yeah right) befriends you as you are interesting (if she wants to know what it is like to talk to a guy who had his dick in 10000+ hookers). "She" plays the long game and get you into crypto and then hits you hard. I spoke to a digital nomad who said those scams are only the shallow end of the pool and there are some real experts floating about. The 101 is if a chick wants to see dick, run.[/QUOTE]This is called the "pig slaughter" scam in China. It has been around for awhile in China and is now going world wide. These are very sophisticated operations. As you said, they play the long game. A lot is known about you before first contact is even made. These people are well trained and very good at what they do. I have been contacted through Wechat, but sinse Chinese friends warned me first I just ignore any contacts from people I don't know. Not surprising that they would be branching out to other platforms.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2853917]I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.
Prices of flights booked direct with the airlines also vary wildly with dirt cheap flights occasionally available. Google Flights is a good option here. Punch in the intended departure and arrival airport and I can search flight and prices several months ahead. It's not unusual to see prices vary by 300% at different times of the year. Obviously, stay away from major holidays and school breaks.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I've used aggregators regularly without a drama. The problems arrive if there is a missed connection or cancellation. The airlines treat it as booked by and agent and many won't deal with you directly. Buy insurance with the money saved.
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2855697]Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?[/QUOTE]All red flags here, looks like a LD, yes.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2855697]Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove [/QUOTE]Most ladyboys will say right up what they are. They have plenty of customers and don't need your drama. The third photo is a pose which ladyboys have to do to look feminine. Many ladyboys look more feminine than ladies as they spend a LOT of money to get the look.
That and their medication makes them prone to scamming and violent crime. Sites like livejasmin allow them make serious bucks without that recourse.
It matters not whether it is a lady or a ladyboy. Offering you nudes is a red flag. Unless you want to marry her and have babies, yours or adopted, with her, move on.
There are all kinds of "spot the ladyboy" sites. They are as stupid as those kiddy ones of spotting the hidden tiger in the grass. If you really must know, ask a female hooker. They can spot them a miles off and many of them have admired ladyboys to me and told me how well they look and how hard it can be to spot them. But most on pinalove do not need your drama,.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2855697]Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing LB based on the tits are too perfect but I hope I'm wrong!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNfEhP-EGk[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZuvC3tYnI[/URL]
This 80 year old Brit is not in good nick. Lots of lessons here. 80 years old, arrivng in London with nothing. There was a film maybe 40 years ago, about taffy women keeping the fare home. The Pinays were good to him but waht a mess.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2855697]Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
What do you think?[/QUOTE]I didn't even look at the pictures, and I say yes. It's a dude just based on the hints you gave. If you want to be sure, just ask if he'll suck you. 😂.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2855697]Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?[/QUOTE]Your gut feeling is telling you something and you are not listening. This is very simple. If you ever have to question what it is then run away.
The test I like is for the person to not yell but to say something in a loud voice as if they are talking to you and you are across the room or across the street. At that decibel level they can not suppress their man voice from coming out. Most guys can sound like a little kid or girl at a low decibel level.
I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
International: For my first trip to the PI last spring I chose Philippine Airlines (PAL), mostly because they have a direct flight from LAX, it was $100-$200 more than other options but I thought it worth it.
My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. You really needed to be there three hours in advance and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.
On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Those are both highly rated Taiwan based airlines. But meant a signoficant layover in Taiwan on both trips. Not sure it was the right choice, but I decided to roll the dice with PAL again. FWIW the LAX-MNL PAL flight arrives at 5:40 am (actually 6:30 last time) so there is an early check in issue. Central Park AC has some secret provisions for that I may try to share later.
Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?
Domestic:
So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). On the first Cancellation they canned my GF's flight to Butuan and moved it to the next day. Okay if that's rare. But then it happened to me! I had booked a flight for both of us to fly to Boracay on November 17th at 12:55 pm (a gentlemanly hour). They automatically switched me to 8 am on November 19th. But I prepaid for a Boracay hotel starting the 17th! That ain't going to fly. So I looked at their website and they have seats available on a 2:10 Nov 17 flight nonstop to Boracay (MPH). It's just that they're priced higher than what I paid a month ago. On their website they didn't even give me an option of switching to that flight for a fee! They just offered for me to confirm the new flight they had chosen or "request a refund". Obviously they want me to rebook at the new fare, but that's not why I booked early. There is an early morning flight on the 17th from Clark on Air Asia at a good price, or I can travel to MNL and ly on PAL mid afternoon at a fair price. I have written to Cebu asking them to move me to the 2:10 pm flight and will update this if I here back.
Air Asia: I have never booked on this airline, but the internet says it's a Malaysia based low budget airline with some Filipino investors and it soun DS like it's better than Cebu Pacific or Cebu Go. Any information appreciated.
PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.
I live in Honolulu. The flights direct on PAL to Manila are 1800-2000 round trip. I have been flying JAL, ANA, or Korean Air instead. All have a layover, but it is usually no more than two hours and then on to Manila. And the service on them is far and above any US airline.
I have only flown on Cebu Pacific domestically in Philippines. I haven't had any trouble with them personally. CebGo flights tend to be cheaper turboprop planes. I've booked on them a few times but had them combined with a Cebu Pacific jet instead. No issue. I had a flight delayed due to weather a couple of months ago due to weather in Manila and they gave me two domestic flight vouchers, including my baggage. I have nothing bad to say about them personally. And their flight attendants are definitely on the upper end of lookers, IMO.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.[/QUOTE]Rather a spot-on description. Fly KAL, Asiana, or ANA if you want solid service. PAL's checkin is much faster than a deccade a year ago, but is till one of the slowest in the biz.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]You really needed to be there three hours in advance [/QUOTE]Same for all airlines at the Bradley terminal. Flights going across the Pacific pond are usually 14+ hours, 300+ passengers, with 45 minute boarding times. Given the 20-60 minutes it might take you to get from the checkin counter thru the security checkpoints at LAX, and the 1-hour it takes to check in 300+ passengers, you'd be in the gutsy category to show up 2 hours before flight (given you must be at the gate 45 minutes before the flight).
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?[/QUOTE]You have hit the issues. Flying west across the Pacific is more expensive and less time-consuming. In general, plan about $800 USD each way. Only PAL offers a direct (nonstop) flight. Others offer layovers of 2+ hours in Taiwan, HK, Japan, Seoul. Plan on about $1400-$1500 USD Round-Trip for those 1-stops, and about $1700 for PAL's direct flights.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). [/QUOTE]See below. Its bait / switch.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?[/QUOTE]I find PAL cancels (and offers) fewer flights. CP seems to float more flights daily in / out of this or that province than PAL, but CP then cancels some of them after you book. They don't contact you with the cancel and ask that you contact them to rebook the flight of your choice*; the CP computer just re-books you on a similar flight a day or so later (rather rude). Also PAL flights are typically p1-2 k more per leg.
* If you want to buy a ticket directly from CP, you must choose: #1) Go to a CP ticketing office. If you press the CP ticketing agent (dressed in a yellow CP shirt), he will confess that its not really a CP ticketing office. Its an intermediate travel agency, dealing only with CP flights. The agent works for the travel agent, not CP. If something goes wrong, or you want to change your flight, you must go back to the same ticketing office to make any changes (you might not be able to go to a different CP ticketing office). There is no longer a phone number to call. Or #2) You can book on the CP website directly. However if something changes or goes wrong, you can't go to said ticketing office (#1) for help. Said agent will tell you to make any changes online. You must go back the CP website and 'Manage' your booking. Re-booking might cost you a fee (depending on how you originally purchased) and they will hit you with an increase for the price difference of the new flight (you must agree to that and pay up front before they allow you to proceed). If you want to speak to a real CP agent: GOOD LUCK. On occasion I have reached one on the website (there is a virtual chat-bot, and if you persist for 30+ minutes, they might transfer you to a live chat agent; or maybe not). CP and PAL have nearly completely eliminated live phone (and email) support. If you ask the agent at a CP ticketing office how you can get live help for a problem you are having from a CP website purchase, he will tell you to fly to NAIA and speak to someone at CP there. No kidding. CP ticketing agents (the yellow shirts who don't really work for CP) have also shared that the CP website is run by a third-party company, and that CP really has little to do with that also. Its amazing how consumer-unfriendly and sneaky they are.
Another CP and PAL possible scam, coming to the Gen Info thread, soon. Smile!
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.[/QUOTE]I've only ever had one CP Domestic flight cancelled and they couldn't have been better about it. It was going to be the last flight of the day so they rebooked to the first flight the next morning, gave girlie and I a half decent hotel near the airport for the night, a couple of meal vouchers and redeemable flight vouchers. I think it was $100 each (remember we still kept a flight). Yes, they are a budget airline but they will give you what ever you are prepared to pay for. Lots of baggage allowance if you need it. They also go to many smaller airports. Tickets are cheap if booked normally and can be ridiculously cheap if booked well ahead. On a bad day they can be strict on carry on weights and contents. Lots of domestic flights out of Terminal 3 in NAIA which is the best terminal by far. Occasionally out of Terminal 4 which is probably the worst.
PAL should be the premier airline but you wouldn't know it. Yes, prices are all over the place. Multiples of other carriers or occasionally very cheap. Surprisingly, the worst connections to smaller tourist airports. The best if you insist on Business Class.
Yes, Air Asia is Malaysian and super budget. No frills but like CP, if you pay they will provide. Greatest baggage allowance if you use regular + sporting goods. I've found them good for on time performance but be prepared to walk repeated laps of the airport as gate changes are frequent.
I can't comment on West Coast flight options but would recommend just plugging your city into Google Travel / Flights and it will bring up a heap of options and indicative pricing. Don't rule out international arrival into Clark as an option.
If island hopping, remember that PI routes operate on a hub and spoke model so try to avoid doing repeated legs in and out of MNL or CEB. I always look up my intended airports on Wikipedia and it will give direct flights to and from. You can then try to order the stops in a circuit. I often use this as an excuse to pass through Davao, AC and Cebu too.
When you have an idea of preferred flights, I'd recommend booking direct with the airlines online. Using travel agents or aggregators adds another later of complexity and he said / she said if there are any problems.
Enjoy your trip. G.
P.S. Watch out for smaller airports, serviced by turbo props, having paltry baggage limits. 10 or 15 kgs isn't unusual.
Flight switching / CP-PAL / bait-switch.
Few months ago, flew from the province to Manila on CP. Took one of my regulars as a gift (to her, and to me). Purchased myself a 4-week round-trip ticket (staying the middle two weeks in AC), and the girl a 6-day (5 nights) round-trip ticket, from a CP ticketing office. Paid an extra p350 for each ticket to get what the ticketing agent said were exit-row seats (27 Bravo and 27 Charlie). I was later emailed a change of flight, for later in the day, with a new record-locator (MP5 ZDW, or such). I checked in online and got our boarding passes before going to the airport. I noticed that the seats changed to 28 Bravo and 28 Charlie. Well, there went my exit row (additional legroom) seats. When I got to the airport and checked in, I was assured by the checkin agent that row 28 on this aircraft were exit row seats. All good.
When we got on the aircraft and reached row 27, I noticed that was the exit row (literally, there is a door in the wall, and seat A is missing) with lots of legroom. Row 28 was a standard seat, no extra legroom. I questioned that with the flight attendant. A whopping admission of a scam: "Yes sir. This row 28 is standard seats". But I purchased exit row seats for extra money. "Yes sir. But if you check your emailed receipt, you will see you now have a standard seat". Miss, you are making my case. I purchased an exit row seat. "But sir if you check your receipt you will see we changed it to standard later". I see. When do I get my p350 +350 back? "What?" I want my money back. CP charged my credit card immediately when I purchased, for the full amount of +p700. I want back the 700. "Oh. Really?" She said it like a refund was a novel idea. "Sir I don't know about that. Can you show me the receipt in email? It will have an item by item purchase price".
I logged into my email on the phone, went back a week or two, found the emailed receipt. She was right, it showed the seats charged at p260 for Standard Seats. But that couldn't be correct. The amount on my CC hadn't changed. I also noticed that while I was emailed a confirmation from CP at the time of purchase, the actual receipt was sent to my email 5 days after I made the original purchase. Here is the FA's confession of a crime: "Sir you see there is some delay in when we send you a receipt". Yes, 5 days from the date of purchase. "Yes sir. That's why". Ma'am the delay doesn't explain the change of seat, nor the price discrepancy. "Sir it does explain. They send the receipt days later. Because some flights will cancel from not enough seats sold. They will move you to another flight. If your 27 Bravo and 27 Charlie is already taken on that new flight, you will get different seats sir". I see, miss. Then where is my refund? Its small, but its p90 per seat. "Yes sir". Why didn't they credit that back to my CC? "You will have to complain in Manila sir but I think it won't work as we emailed you about this". Grrrr. Also miss, you saying that they wait until they have time to switch aircraft, knowing in advance that they will do that, is indicative of fraud if they know they are keeping money from more expensive seat sales. "Not me sir". No, the company. "Yes. Sorry po". Miss, if I hadn't brought this to your attention, would they return the money to me? "No sir I think not".
She said all of this with a well-trained look: a coat-hangar stuffed inside of her mouth to force a smile. In addition, how could the check-in agent at the airport be wrong about row 28 being an exit row? Its either a big misunderstanding on my behalf, or its all a scam. Decide for yourself.
But, the party is not over. The hits keep on coming. I decided to stay a few extra days, so I cancelled my CP flight and kept the money in my account. Looking for a later flight, I found a better / cheaper one on PAL. On PAL, I'd purchased exit row seat mid-aircraft. But when I checked in online the day prior, the boarding pass said I was seated one row back (ye old Standard seat). I went online to the chatbot, and after about 20 minutes, DING! I'd reached a live chat operator. I explained the switch. "Yes sir that is Standard seats. Sir I have one exit row seat in the front of the aircraft open, 21 Bravo. Will you like that? Extra legroom". Yes! Problem solved, right? "Sir its p76 more. I will send you a link. Click it and pay with your credit card". But I already paid p320 for the previous exit row seat. "Sorry po its required". So I paid the p76 and got switched to 21 Bravo. All good, right? In this instance, PAL personnel were able to fix the bad situation, but keep in mind that PAL also caused the problem. Also keep in mind that the boarding pass on the phone is small, it would have been easy to not see the incorrect similar seat and row, and not caught the problem until boarding (too late to fix).
These are bait / switch. Also, on CP when purchasing, you can choose a seat by viewing an aircraft seat map (see pic). On their equipment, the seatmap shows yellow seats for exit row. If you mouse-over any of the yellow seats, it says: "Exit Row. You must be at least 15, and be able to help in an emergency, extra legroom, blah blah". At row 27, you will see the exit rows in yellow. Also in yellow are rows 28 and 29. You get the same mouse-over message. You also pay extra for these, thinking they are extra legroom and actual exit rows. However when you board, 28 and 29 are just standard seats. You will need to fly to Manila to complain.
OTOH, I have since flown on PAL, purchased an exit row seat (no longer called exit row, now called COMFORT) and got it when I boarded.
My experience with PAL ticket office at NAIA. Pal operates a ticketing office on the 2nd or 3rd floor (can't remember which) of the airport. I went there to inquire about a later date ticket issue. The office area is large with seating for 100+ customers. A security guard gives you a number when you enter and the agents call you to their window in order. There are about 12 windows although only 3 agents on duty. Very, Very slow, I gave up after waiting 45 minutes and left along with many others. Tried again another day and I was determined to make it and had a book to read. It Took 90 minutes to reach a window. Take Away is PAL has no interest in customer service at NAIA, In Cebu City there are a couple of off aiport PAL ticket offices I've used and always good fast service. YMMV. I was burnt once by PAL changing an International reservation moving departure out 10 days, Cost me as much as a new ticket and original cost was gone, "Sorry Sir that's' our policy" It's a scam. Learned not to make a reservation until very sure I want that date, their statement about change fees being X are false. To use PAL Air Miles; Reservations within 5 days of departure cost money plus miles. The money is virtually the cost of the flight without using the miles but of course they take the miles. Another PAL scam. I'll get off my soap box now!
I'm still waiting for a response from Cebu Pacific on changing my flight. Their Charlie Chatbot responded that they got my message, but that's all so far.
Meanwhile, for those who may arrive in AC before check in time I want to share CPT's official policy (from an email they sent me). I am guessing other similar caliber hotels may have similar policies. Certainly worth asking.
Our official check-in time is 2 PM.
· For check-ins from 11 AM to 2 PM, approval is subject to availability but there is no added charge.
· For check-ins from 6 AM – 11 AM, guaranteed when booked in advance but ½ day charge will apply.
· For check-ins before 6 AM, guaranteed when booked in advance but full day charge will apply.
If we cannot give you early access to the room, we will gladly store your belongings / luggage until the room can be made ready and available.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2863612]My experience with PAL ticket office at NAIA. SNIP Tried again another day and I was determined to make it and had a book to read. It Took 90 minutes to reach a window. Take Away is PAL has no interest in customer service at NAIA, In Cebu City there are a couple of off aiport PAL ticket offices I've used and always good fast service. YMMV. I was burnt once by PAL changing an International reservation moving departure out 10 days, Cost me as much as a new ticket and original cost was gone, "Sorry Sir that's' our policy" It's a scam. [/QUOTE]Besides my previous rant about CP and PAL, I should say that my multiple visits to PAL ticketing offices is similar to your description: Large aircon office, several agents working, 1-2 dozen customers usually (but also once there was only a handful of customers waiting). Pro tip: Tell the guard upon entering that you are a SENIOR, he will give you a priority number (however, don't be surprised to see that almost all the other customers before you are also seniors or PWD / buntis, they will also have priority numbers). Its best to hit any ticketing agent when they open in the morning (CP, PAL, or other). It can easily take 30-60 minutes to reach a window (bring your Kindle).
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2863612]Another PAL scam. I'll get off my soap box now![/QUOTE]Looks like I got him: STARTED!
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2863404]I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
International: For my first trip to the PI last spring I chose Philippine Airlines (PAL), mostly because they have a direct flight from LAX, it was $100-$200 more than other options but I thought it worth it.
My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. You really needed to be there three hours in advance and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.
On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Those are both highly rated Taiwan based airlines. But meant a signoficant layover in Taiwan on both trips. Not sure it was the right choice, but I decided to roll the dice with PAL again. FWIW the LAX-MNL PAL flight arrives at 5:40 am (actually 6:30 last time) so there is an early check in issue. Central Park AC has some secret provisions for that I may try to share later.
Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?
Domestic:
So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). On the first Cancellation they canned my GF's flight to Butuan and moved it to the next day. Okay if that's rare. But then it happened to me! I had booked a flight for both of us to fly to Boracay on November 17th at 12:55 pm (a gentlemanly hour). They automatically switched me to 8 am on November 19th. But I prepaid for a Boracay hotel starting the 17th! That ain't going to fly. So I looked at their website and they have seats available on a 2:10 Nov 17 flight nonstop to Boracay (MPH). It's just that they're priced higher than what I paid a month ago. On their website they didn't even give me an option of switching to that flight for a fee! They just offered for me to confirm the new flight they had chosen or "request a refund". Obviously they want me to rebook at the new fare, but that's not why I booked early. There is an early morning flight on the 17th from Clark on Air Asia at a good price, or I can travel to MNL and ly on PAL mid afternoon at a fair price. I have written to Cebu asking them to move me to the 2:10 pm flight and will update this if I here back.
Air Asia: I have never booked on this airline, but the internet says it's a Malaysia based low budget airline with some Filipino investors and it soun DS like it's better than Cebu Pacific or Cebu Go. Any information appreciated.
PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.[/QUOTE]There is no customer service in the Philippines when it comes to airlines. If you travel domestic just let it pick a seat and sit down shut up and buckle up. Flights are usually short so whatever. If flying international God forbid you try and change a ticket date. Tried this couple times Korean once and JAL. Its basically just buy another ticket. The change fees are a joke as I just wanted to stay two extra days and fly out same trip two days later. Sir, that's 1500 dollars. WTF! The enitre ticket was only 1800 you are crazy. Sorry darling I'd like to stay but not for $1500. Now I just book for as long as I can stay with no wiggle room so I can't change my mind as no airline there will work with you.
Erroll Flynn looks like he does marathons. USA to Manila via Istanbul. And the prices.
My situation is nearly as bad. I spotted a cheap as chips flight with British Airways + Cathay. Checking Travelup, who run it, lots of negative reviews and bait and switches. I don't need that. I now have my eyes ion a reasanable Peoples Republic of China flight.
I don't know why the Yanks don't just follow the swallows and fly south for the winter. Anyway, not my problem.
I have used a variety of cheap Asian airlines with no problem, bar many years ago with PAL where they were charging everyone excess baggage (I got charged for an extra kilo). Luckily, PAL is no longer an option from Europe.
Speaking of Europe, I bought a special Ryanair bag that fits under the seat, so for most of their flights, I now only pay bare minimum. I am not sure how relevant such bags are to Asian flights.
Given the negative reviews Angeles is getting, I think the best move might be to hit on some rural place and bonk away but it is a long way to go for limited returns. There is a definite opening in the market here but, as I reported from Napoli, other options have their own considerable risks.
Most airlines allow back packs which will fit under the seats (many prefer you to do this so there is room in the lockers for suitcases), subject to carry on weight limits.
CP has announced a round of promo fares, both domestic (as low as p199 before taxes / fees) and international. See pic for a domestic teaser, and link for all such fares.
[URL]https://www.cebupacificair.com/en-PH/seat-sale[/URL]
Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? Wrapped meals ready to be microwaved?
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2865954]Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? It is an international franchise so it should be near enough
Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? I never saw one in Thai jungles or paddy fields but there are plenty where lazy mongers go
and the motorbikes are ubiquitous
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?[/QUOTE]The unit of currency in the Philippines is the peso, not the American (56), Australian (36) or Canadian (41). I previously gave the rates blind folk charge in various malls. Do you think you could rtff or would you like me to do that and convert into the currency of your choice?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2865685]CP has announced a round of promo fares, both domestic (as low as p199 before taxes / fees) and international. See pic for a domestic teaser, and link for all such fares.
[URL]https://www.cebupacificair.com/en-PH/seat-sale[/URL][/QUOTE]I've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?
[QUOTE=Aml3740;2866066]I've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?[/QUOTE]Usually only a limited number of these cheap seats on each flight. You really have to be quick, they often go within minutes of being announced.
[QUOTE=Aml3740;2866066]I've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?[/QUOTE]Yes. You must wait to make the reservation during the stated sale period (in this case, you must make the reservation between Nov 1 and Nov 15), and only for flights within the travel period (in this case, flights between those particular cities between Nov 1 and March 31 2024). They run this type of special 2-3 times per year. I have noted that during the sale period, starting Nov 1 thru Nov 15, the website often slows to a crawl as everyone is attempting to get the discount.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2865954]Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? Wrapped meals ready to be microwaved?
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?[/QUOTE]Massage is about 350 to 400 P per hour but the quality is much lower than Thailand. Why 7-11 should be a consideration for any travel planning is beyond me but yes, there are 7-11 in the Philippines and probably carry the same food, but again, why that would matter is really strange.
You monger in the Phils to have BBFS with mostly average looking English speaking girls. Thats about it. You don't go there for food or massage or 7-11.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2865954]Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2866151]You monger in the Phils to have BBFS with mostly average looking English speaking girls. Thats about it. [/QUOTE]Usually I agree. But:
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2866151]You don't go there for food or massage or 7-11.[/QUOTE]I have discovered that there is a percentage of fellas that are primarily rub-and-tug fellas. They can go to an asian sexpat destination and spend all of their nawty dollars in massage places. Or alternately they are just massage afficianados who have 1-2-3 massages daily (a full-body each morning, a foot massage every afternoon, a nawty massage caps off the evening). They barfine or find FL girls as a second option only. I find it odd that anyone of such persuasion would go to AC, but I have found them having lunch at Kokomo's.
TD I am not sure of that $6 (p300) price, as Manila prices are often a few bucks higher ($10 maybe) than elsewhere. To twist it a bit more, my province city's prices (which should be lower than Manila) were pre-covid p300, then jumped to p600 for standard 1-hour massage after the post-covid re-opening and remained that way for 2 years, before settling back down to p400. In AC last month p400 was standard, and the place across the street from Scorebirds was p300.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2866146]Yes. You must wait to make the reservation during the stated sale period (in this case, you must make the reservation between Nov 1 and Nov 15), and only for flights within the travel period (in this case, flights between those particular cities between Nov 1 and March 31 2024). They run this type of special 2-3 times per year. I have noted that during the sale period, starting Nov 1 thru Nov 15, the website often slows to a crawl as everyone is attempting to get the discount.[/QUOTE]Even if you have jumped through all the hoops mentioned, often there is only a certain number of discounted seats available on each flight. Sometimes it's a crazy low number like 5 or so. If you are number 6, then it's bad luck.
G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2866172]
TD I am not sure of that $6 (p300) price, as Manila prices are often a few bucks higher ($10 maybe) than elsewhere. To twist it a bit more, my province city's prices (which should be lower than Manila) were pre-covid p300, then jumped to p600 for standard 1-hour massage after the post-covid re-opening and remained that way for 2 years, before settling back down to p400. In AC last month p400 was standard, and the place across the street from Scorebirds was p300.[/QUOTE]I usually go to a massage shop opposite Robinsons in Malate. I was shocked in July that the price had risen to 350 p which is $A10. I did get a haircut for 100 p and the girl sorry LB was so excited with my 100 p tip. The cut was pretty good BTW.
Thanks for the feedback.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67305693[/URL]
This is a report on how Thailand is getting a different sort of Chinese tourist: top tier and rich LGBT only. I guess the Philippines is still, ahem, virgin territory, helped by itb only catring to Koreans, Western losers and grand papas like us.
Tourism. Last full pre-Covid year was 2019, with 8. 2 million foreign visitors (see graph, first pic). Extrapolating from the bar graph, that would add about a half million to a million per year, if not for the pandemic. Website: [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053908/philippines-number-of-foreign-visitor-tourist-arrivals/[/URL].
For the first 10 months of 2023 (see second pic), 4 million foreign visitors. Extrapolating to include the last 2 months, it should be close to 5 million. Not yet back up to the pre-pandemic extrapolation (about half as much this year), and a given is that Phils has been re-opened for 18 months. Website: [URL]http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2023/11/11-06/2023-October.pdf[/URL].
And for fun, you can see the list (third pic) of countries with foreign visitors to Phils, ranked in order from most to least. N Korea is #1 so far this year (1.1 million tourists), then the US (740K), Japan, China, Australia (207K), Canada (180K), Taiwan, and UK (125K). No wonder we're getting waxed in AC. Website: [URL]http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2023/11/11-06/2023-October.pdf[/URL].
From an aviation related site I frequent, it seems United are now operating non-stop flights to Manila. Daily ex-LOS Angeles, already started. I think this is the only non-PAL non-stop flight from North America.
[QUOTE=Locamotive;2864127]There is no customer service in the Philippines when it comes to airlines.[/QUOTE]Many days after I wrote to CebuPacific Customer Service I received an email back that said if I didn't like the flight they had chosen for me I could go online and change it. EOM. The problem is I can't. Through the very link they resent I could either accept the totally unacceptable date they proposed or request a refund. I wrote them back explaining that I had tried to change my flight online but couldn't. All I heard since was an email saying my issue was resolved. To which I responded that it wasn't. But I have heard nothing further.
PAL has a flight from Manila (instead of AC) that would work for me (and, hey, I'd get Mabuhay Miles!) but it doesn't seem like BMs thin much higher of PAL than Cebu P.
I know this is a first world problem, but as a PI newbie I'm open to input.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2866646]Many days after I wrote to CebuPacific Customer Service I received an email back that said if I didn't like the flight they had chosen for me I could go online and change it. EOM. The problem is I can't. Through the very link they resent I could either accept the totally unacceptable date they proposed or request a refund. I wrote them back explaining that I had tried to change my flight online but couldn't. All I heard since was an email saying my issue was resolved. To which I responded that it wasn't. But I have heard nothing further.[/QUOTE]I am sorry for your loss. Your loss of any semblance of trust in CP, or your trust in 'the system'. Don't you find it interesting that you must email CP Cust Service. You can't call them, as calling them would require employees to answer phones, and employees to help fix your issue RIGHT NOW. Employees cost money, and they are not interested in your issue. Instead, they reply to your email inquiry / complaint about a week after you send it. Or alternately, they just don't reply. And each time the do reply, a different CSR handles your issue.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2866646]PAL has a flight from Manila (instead of AC) that would work for me (and, hey, I'd get Mabuhay Miles!) but it doesn't seem like BMs thin much higher of PAL than Cebu P.[/QUOTE]CP is typically the crappier of the two organizations. Regarding cancellations. As an example. PAL offers 3 flights on any give day from your departure city to your arrival city. Most flights are full each day. OTOH, CP offers 6 flights from the departure city to the destination, daily. Each flight is usually half-full. Three of the flights are then cancelled, pushing the passengers on cancelled flights over to the remaining CP flights, mostly filling them (or alternately pushing some CP passengers to flights a different day). CP flights are a bit cheaper.
Six of one (CP), half a dozen of the other (PAL).
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2866646]I know this is a first world problem, but as a PI newbie I'm open to input.[/QUOTE]Recently someone on the board said that its just easier to take your lumps, show up, sit in whatever seat they assigned you at the check-in counter, and shut up. Flights are at most 90 minutes and you can live thru anything for such a short period of time. At issue: Why should you have to live thru your issue without being able to talk to someone about it TODAY?
Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.
[QUOTE=JWill2578;2867133]Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.[/QUOTE]From where to where? Dumaguete to Cebu City?
"Cebu" can mean the city, the island or the province. Trips can be from one to twelve hours and not all drivers go everywhere.
Of course, the easiest solution is to have your destination hotel come collect you. It's reliable but comes at a cost.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=JWill2578;2867133]Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.[/QUOTE]Try posting in the Cebu forum.
If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.
I used to spend a few days in Makati before spending the bulk of my time in AC. The last time I did it, believe it or not, there was way less to do in Makati during the day than AC, especially if you want things within walking distance. I couldn't even find a bar open during the day to hang out at. Makati has a great nightlife scene if you're good looking and have game. And insane amount of non pro hotties that party every night. The girlie bars do, on average, have a better looking girls. But as has been noted, you'll pay at least twice as much. I don't really go with money as an object either, but I kept thinking that this cash would go a lot further in AC. Last visit I got off the plane and got in a private car and went straight to AC. That's what I plan to do in a few weeks. If you've never done it though, Manila is definitely worth a visit.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2869995]If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2869995]If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.[/QUOTE]AC and Manila (and the girls who live there) are totally different markets. Search my posts as I've listed the comparisons a few times.
There are plenty of transport and accommodation options at both so no need to commit to how many days at each before arrival. Just go have a look for yourself and decide which best suits you.
For a picky weekend millionaire, I'd point out that Manila has a lot more options in clubs, girlie bars and online.
I'd recommend Greenbelt rather than Makati proper. Greenbelt malls and the nearby area have lots to do during the day and evening (eat, drink, movies etc) and is only a very short taxi to Burgos and the Poblacion clubs. Online girls also won't get lost if you say "meet at Greenbelt 5". BGC is another option. Makati around Burgos is just a big city wasteland during the day. A pro top is that an AirBnB condo can have more features and be less intimidating for a good girl than being asked to meet in a hotel room.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2870007]I used to spend a few days in Makati before spending the bulk of my time in AC. The last time I did it, believe it or not, there was way less to do in Makati during the day than AC, especially if you want things within walking distance. I couldn't even find a bar open during the day to hang out at. Makati has a great nightlife scene if you're good looking and have game. And insane amount of non pro hotties that party every night. The girlie bars do, on average, have a better looking girls. But as has been noted, you'll pay at least twice as much. I don't really go with money as an object either, but I kept thinking that this cash would go a lot further in AC. Last visit I got off the plane and got in a private car and went straight to AC. That's what I plan to do in a few weeks. If you've never done it though, Manila is definitely worth a visit.[/QUOTE]AC is also better for a guy on his own. Its normal there. The Makati clubs are full of groups of buddies and packs of girls. Definitely not insurmountable but a single guy will stick out anywhere outside Burgos.
G.
[QUOTE=Jarango;2873137]You forgot Dubai where the top of the class lot go. Hooking runs in some families and they pass tips to each other, money to carry, line to tell at immigration etc. Like any other trade, you have fast learners and, as you say, country bumkins.
This feeds backwards. Why do short time in Manila when you can make 100 times the amount for less work in the ME.[/QUOTE]Is Dubai really that attractive for Asian girls?
I've only ever met one Pina who was returning from a hooking session there. Smoking hot but she wanted 15,000 peso over night in Manila which isn't that far off some of the prices being quoted on the Dubai forum: 500 AED /7500 PHP ST; 1500 AED /21000 PHP LT. Some simp was probably paying her asking price locally and her outgoings would have been much less.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2873365]I've only ever met one Pina who was returning from a hooking session there. Smoking hot but she wanted 15,000 peso over night in Manila which isn't that far off some of the prices being quoted on the Dubai forum: 500 AED /7500 PHP ST; 1500 AED /21000 PHP LT. Some simp was probably paying her asking price locally and her outgoings would have been much less.[/QUOTE]So its possible that a Filipina will go for P21000 (400 USD) for LT? I say that sarcastically, because of course some girls will go for that much. High-end girls are not always even available to the public, they are by private appt only. All countries have such girls. Yet some guys were writing here previously that it was just too much to give Burgos gogo girls half that amount. The idea that girls from this country or that country are only worth X pesos / dollars because girls in another country are better-looking for less pesos / dollars, is a misnomer. If they are getting a higher amount, there is a market for them in that niche. The better comparison is how much the ladies are going for in this local venue vs a different venue within a country (ie, Burgos vs AC, gogo girls vs SW / FL, Jakarta vs Surabaya, BKK vs Patts, etc).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2873408]The better comparison is how much the ladies are going for in this local venue vs a different venue within a country (ie, Burgos vs AC, gogo girls vs SW / FL, Jakarta vs Surabaya, BKK vs Patts, etc).[/QUOTE]At this point I think this is becoming counter productive let this section be about the "philippines" solid info that people are looking for.
Having an opinion like some have stated here that these women are ugly is what it is, I don't agree with that but, insisting on everyone else also having the point of view that these women are ugly is just a waste of time and muddies the forum imo.
If they are interested in Brazil they will go to that section if they have an interest in Jakarta they will find it.
IMO posting about Jakarta or Thailand or Brazil ect. Is SPAM where the philippines is concerned. Making the comparison Is ok as well and I think is relevant but going into any detail should be in the relevant section.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2870027]AC and Manila (and the girls who live there) are totally different markets. Search my posts as I've listed the comparisons a few times.
There are plenty of transport and accommodation options at both so no need to commit to how many days at each before arrival. Just go have a look for yourself and decide which best suits you.
For a picky weekend millionaire, I'd point out that Manila has a lot more options in clubs, girlie bars and online.
I'd recommend Greenbelt rather than Makati proper. Greenbelt malls and the nearby area have lots to do during the day and evening (eat, drink, movies etc) and is only a very short taxi to Burgos and the Poblacion clubs. Online girls also won't get lost if you say "meet at Greenbelt 5". BGC is another option. Makati around Burgos is just a big city wasteland during the day. A pro top is that an AirBnB condo can have more features and be less intimidating for a good girl than being asked to meet in a hotel room.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Greenbelt was nice but all the hookers hitting on me there were old or just not attractive. Complete bummer for such a nice area. If I was a hottie I would work greenbelt every night. Forget the bars.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2869995]If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.[/QUOTE]I detest Makati. Never been to a girlie bar. The malls are large and unappealing and the business area is sterile. I prefer Malate and Robinsons. Its near LA Cafe if that's your thing but I get all my girls online. Pina, Tantan are main ones. Pasay is an alternative as well with Mall of Asia though it is also overly large. Never been to AC.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2869995]Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
[/QUOTE]Just my 2 cents, but I found the girl quality MUCH higher in AC than Makati. Sure, there are a lot of fuglies in AC but there are a LOT of girls, so if 5% are hot to you, you'll find a lot more hotties in AC. Makati was very disappointing (this was last spring, YMMV). Makati felt like the Times Square clip joints of the 1990's.
There are stunners in AC. They don't go for 2500 php, but you're a one week millionaire.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2873460]Just my 2 cents, but I found the girl quality MUCH higher in AC than Makati. Sure, there are a lot of fuglies in AC but there are a LOT of girls, so if 5% are hot to you, you'll find a lot more hotties in AC. Makati was very disappointing (this was last spring, YMMV). Makati felt like the Times Square clip joints of the 1990's.
There are stunners in AC. They don't go for 2500 php, but you're a one week millionaire.[/QUOTE]AC definitely has a ton of girls. It was mind boggling how many hookers were in one small place. I never saw anything like it in 20 years of mongering. Before AC Help was the most hookers I ever saw in one place, AC made that place look like a massage parlor. The amazing part is how there are enough men to go around for all those girls. You would think the herd would thin out more since there wouldn't be enough business for everyone.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2873583]AC definitely has a ton of girls. It was mind boggling how many hookers were in one small place. I never saw anything like it in 20 years of mongering. Before AC Help was the most hookers I ever saw in one place, AC made that place look like a massage parlor. The amazing part is how there are enough men to go around for all those girls. You would think the herd would thin out more since there wouldn't be enough business for everyone.[/QUOTE]In addition, from pre-covid to post-covid, there has been a fairly large change in the AC customer landscape. Prior to AC, Koreans (and Japanese) were an increasing number of visitors, and gringos were still the majority of visitors (but dwindling). The place closes completely for 2 years, and upon re-opening the Koreans are 60%+ of the people on the WS, and in the non-K bars most of the customers are no longer week-long visiting warriors, but expats who live in the area. The white visitor seems to have stayed home in mom's basement.
Other gents correct me if I am wrong about this next part. But should Teej decide to come back to asia, BKK / Patts have a phenomenally larger number of girls (with a flatter tummy) available between the larger number of gogos, Thermae, and beer gardens (beer gardens are similar to LA Cafe, with somewhat better looking girls, and there are dozens of them in both cities).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2873705]In addition, from pre-covid to post-covid, there has been a fairly large change in the AC customer landscape. Prior to AC, Koreans (and Japanese) were an increasing number of visitors, and gringos were still the majority of visitors (but dwindling). The place closes completely for 2 years, and upon re-opening the Koreans are 60%+ of the people on the WS, and in the non-K bars most of the customers are no longer week-long visiting warriors, but expats who live in the area. The white visitor seems to have stayed home in mom's basement.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but it is also worth noting that the number of expats dropped significantly during the pandemic, so there is even less demand to be factored in along with depleted tourist numbers. As soon as lockdowns were beginning to be announced majority of people I knew fled back to home countries, particularly those with young families.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2873705]Other gents correct me if I am wrong about this next part. But should Teej decide to come back to asia, BKK / Patts have a phenomenally larger number of girls (with a flatter tummy) available between the larger number of gogos, Thermae, and beer gardens (beer gardens are similar to LA Cafe, with somewhat better looking girls, and there are dozens of them in both cities).[/QUOTE]Agreed on the whole, but not necessarily at Thermae or beer gardens, girls at those were not hotter than the ones available in bars in Burgos or AC. I've said thoughts on this before, I enjoy living in the Philippines immensely, but if I was a tourist traveling thousands of miles, it'd be Thailand I go to. More to do in the day, better places to get traditional (and naughty) massages, and larger selection of venues at night (Gogos, normal bars and nightclubs). A larger number of bars = more girls, however, if you don't like Asian girls it is pointless going to either, it was lack of ass that bothered Tijuana if I remember correctly. If he couldn't find anyone in Burgos, a larger percentage of girls probably would not help so better sticking with Brazil or Colombia?
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2873730]Agreed on the whole, but not necessarily at Thermae or beer gardens, girls at those were not hotter than the ones available in bars in Burgos or AC. [/QUOTE]Wildly agree. I was comparing beer garden gals only to LA Cafe.
[QUOTE=Muttley81;2873730]A larger number of bars = more girls, however, if you don't like Asian girls it is pointless going to either, it was lack of ass that bothered Tijuana if I remember correctly. If he couldn't find anyone in Burgos, a larger percentage of girls probably would not help so better sticking with Brazil or Colombia?[/QUOTE]I was trying to get him to stay out of Phils. More ass for you and me. Kidding TeeJay, you come back anytime.
Originally posted in Cebu 2022- but nobody much goes there.
Fatties & Trannies.
Just back in Cebu after 3 years absent. Still a 3rd world shithole. Only had 2 regulars to call. One is pregnant. The other one is gone fat.
Would have been rude to tell her to get lost, so I took one for the team. Last time I did a fat chick was my one & only ex-wife.
Looked online- Fatties & Trannies!
Not many bikini bars left, & my car sat for 3 years & not so reliable.
So, I can't get out to reconnoiter. I've been coming to the philippines 24 +/- years now.
I'm stuck way out in Mactan, Maribago, nso it's hard to get girls to come out here.
Any tips appreciated!
I forgot to send $ to ISG before I left so no messaging.
I'm going to post a list of bars etc I got off the internet- can't vouch for if it's accurate:
CLUB TIPSY.
MANDAUE.
2nd floor Hi-way central bldg M. See Briones St, Mandaue City, Philippines, 6014.
Opens every Thursday- Saturday 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM.
He And She (Bikini Bar).
227 Osmeña Blvd, Cebu City, 6000 Cebu, Philippines.
CLUB HAVANA.
LL2 X.
And. SIDE RD TO AIRPORT etc.
THE PHILLY.
MACTAN.
CLUB GIRLFRIENDS.
Address: M. V Patalinghug Pajo, Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, Philippines.
HONEYPOT SPORTS BAR MACTAN.
Players club opposite grandmall.
MACTAN.
Kangaroo bar MACTAN same place is good live music karaoke.
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Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.
[QUOTE=Gratass65;2875034]Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.[/QUOTE]I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.
[QUOTE=Gratass65;2875034]Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.[/QUOTE]With all due respect at your age have you heard of GIGO?
Garbage In Garbage Out.
Details about yourself would be most helpful. Weight, mobility, hobbies, likes, dislikes and on and on. Most important is your budget. Hotel budget. Travel budget. Budget for girls.
What does organize and accompany you mean? A travel guide? Make a daily routine schedule for you?
With better input you will get a better results.
I flicked through your posts. Going on them, you should go to either manila or Angeles ad pace out your fucking. Tour guides seem to be not for you and using a hooker as a tour guide is not for anyone.
[QUOTE=Gratass65;2875034]Hi.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful ne.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2875037]I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.[/QUOTE]Also, how long are you, Gratass, staying for??
If days, then hit the bars. If weeks, hit online. If months then you will meet civilians.
It's very easy to find a travel companion. Just remember to leave your self a way out should thing turn bad. Many girls are great for a few days but can become tiring after that.
Be careful delegating too much too the girl otherwise you will end up seeing what she wants to and possibly being led to her cousin, the tour car driver extraordinaire.
Age really is up to you. Anywhere along the spectrum won't be a problem.
Enjoy. G.
Just one other piece of advice. If you're around a non-hardened pro for more than a few days, she will probably tell you that she loves you. And she will mean it, at least in some form. Be prepared for that. Be prepared for clinginess after she says that. Be prepared for jealousy if you continue much longer than that. All things to consider when taking a girl along with you.
Be prepared for bullshit in its many forms. If a girl is a pro in any sense of the word, her job is to get your money. Don't be easily separated from it.
But, there are good things, too. Like my 21 year old from Mindanao. I can call and talk to her at any time because she has nothing to hide. She has told me the good and the unflattering things about her. She actually is honest and does what she says she will and doesn't ask for money. She actually waited to say love, is not clingy, and is not jealous. I say this just to show that there are many sides to the girls here.
[QUOTE=Gratass65;2875034]Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.[/QUOTE]My recommendation, just go there with your mind and eyes open. If in Manila, start off in LA Cafe. You'll meet a regular lady just looking for money. If you want to make more of that, then just pay more and if things hit off, then take them on travel as a companion. It's really easy there in the PI overall. Just don't go there with an attitude and wearing a cape believing you are "Superman" there to save some lady and her family. Take your time and what you are looking for will come to you!
Anyone been to Siquijor? What's the availability of talent like?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2875059]With all due respect at your age have you heard of GIGO?
Garbage In Garbage Out.
Details about yourself would be most helpful. Weight, mobility, hobbies, likes, dislikes and on and on. Most important is your budget. Hotel budget. Travel budget. Budget for girls.
What does organize and accompany you mean? A travel guide? Make a daily routine schedule for you?
With better input you will get a better results.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a lot of good advice and tips. And especially this eye opener.
I'm in good shape, and is usualy out for 2-3 hours walking every day.
Budget aprox Euro 200 pr day?? Or should this be increast.
I have some experience with German FKK clubs. But that is FFFG (find, fuck and forget).
Now I'm actually looking for a lady who can also be nice to have breakfast with. And it will be a slightly different starting point.
I don't want to ruin my vacation by making a deal with a jealous, controlling lady. At the same time, I want to avoid dramatic scenes when I leave the Philippines.
I have to think a little more carefully about what might be the best. But it's nice planning. If there are more tips, they are welcome. If you have contacts I can use, please send a PM.
I will keep you updated along the way.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2875037]I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this post. I would make my home base in Cebu and search girls on as many dating sites and pay for the full member option. Palawan and then Boracay.
Moved to Gen Info from AC thread.
[QUOTE=Medellin65;2877163]I don't understand why regular visitors to Angeles City still insist on getting around the city on trikes, when renting a motorbike or scooter is far more practical and economical than using a trike 4 or 5 times a day. I always rent 2 wheels and I am free to move how and where I want, even up to Subic or San Fernando with a cost of 400/500 php per day and in complete freedom. Why make your life difficult by dealing with trike drivers or looking for a free one where we are?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2877264]Will never drive anything in the philippines. For ALL of the reasons you listed. Worst idea ever LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sharka;2877366]This is a good list of reasons NOT to motobike in AC.
This also applies to many 3rd world countries and not just the Philippines. I had a friend that was involved in an accident in Thailand. Not his fault as the local on bike was going the wrong way on one way street. Both parties got serious injuries along with their passengers. All ending up in hospital. Conclusion was obvious. The one with money (always the foreigner and never the local) had to pay for ALL damages and ALL medical bills. Also, don't forget to get proper license. I've been stopped several times before in both Thailand and Indonesia. Police will often stop foreigners to check and it's easy money for them knowing most don't hold a valid motorcycle license.[/QUOTE]I drive here. There is very little that is new to learn, except for the customs of the drivers. I am not sure of any booklet that exists for Driver's Training (you can purchase lessons here if you want). If you have a valid foreign driver's license from your country you can apply for and quickly get a Phils driver's license without taking any written or driving test (only requirement: An eye exam). Some general rules of the road here:
1) Everyone moves his vehicle where he wants to, with little heed to other drivers or turn signals (motorcycles are much more likely to signal than sedans or trucks). Anyone can / will cut off anyone else, and nobody gets too upset about it. Turn signals are not used to change lanes, they are used at intersections to turn a corner.
2) Nose-in-front wins. The vehicle whose nose (front) is in the intersection first has the right of way, regardless of traffic signals (most intersections have no lights, yield or stop signs; I call them 4-way no-stops).
3) Nose in front wins again. You are driving along at a set speed in the left lane. The driver in the right lane is driving the same speed as you, but the nose of his vehicle is 12" further forward than yours. He will feel quite comfortable to change into the left lane, without signalling, by simply sliding left. Your choices are slim and dire: L) accelerate hard and get in front of him before he gets into your lane; M) move to your left, possibly into oncoming traffic or onto a sidewalk; or N) Slam on your brakes, decelerate hard, and let him slide into the left lane (this is your only realistic hope). Honking your horn will not stop his leftward movement (he fully expects you to MOVE out of his way). Yelling at him will not help in the moment, nor will he heed your ire.
4) You are in a circle or round-about, like the Fuente Circle in Cebu. There are, say, 2 lanes (left-inner lane and right-outer lane), and 4 entry / exits for the circle. Driving counter-clockwise, drivers entering the circle (from the right) will try hard to move quickly to the inside (left) lane. Then when they want to exit the circle, they will wildly careen across the right lane to exit to the right. Had the driver entering the circle stayed in the right lane, he would have avoided 2 lane crossings (the second one wildly dangerous). Even drivers proceeding thru just a quarter of the circle (90 degrees), entering (from the right to left) and exiting (left to right) quickly will attempt to get to the inside lane, then immediately to the outside right lane. Regardless of this being extremely common, its wildly irrational and dangerous. Speaking to pinoy drivers about this concept gets this kind of response: "Ya I don't know why we do that".
5) At least half, or more, of drivers don't look left (or right) when turning at an intersection. You can stand near any street corner and watch drivers making right-hand turns. They approach the corner and slow down, then turn right, without ever looking left. They rarely come to a complete stop when turning right on a red stop light (they almost treat it like its a green light).
6) Pinoy drivers pass on the left (and slowly) in, and just prior to, a curve in the road, where oncoming traffic is difficult to see. When oncoming traffic shows up suddenly in such a passing situation, the passing driver will not only swerve back into the right lane, he will cut off anyone he was passing, forcing them off the road or to decelerate hard. He might even take his foot off the gas and hit the brake in a panic, thus forcing the guy getting passed to react even faster.
7) Pinoy drivers are often very kind. Several times as I was learning the layout of the various streets, I made an incorrect left turn (a tiny sign, hidden by trees, shows the no-left-turn) or went the wrong way on a 1-way street. Other drivers (and pedestrians) will yell something like: "Sir don't do that. You don't go that way. Go straight". Very sweet.
8) Motorcycles rule the road. They are everywhere and outnumber other vehicles. Their small size means the drivers will drive maze-like thru a traffic jam anytime. I have learned to follow that lead.
9) I have learned to drive willy-nilly like the locals, cutting anyone off the same way they do. Its difficult to drive here and not be cut off several times when going somewhere, and cutting off several other people. I fear that I will return to the home country and drive the same way.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2875245]Anyone been to Siquijor? What's the availability of talent like?[/QUOTE]Nonexistent. BYO.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2877385]Moved to Gen Info from AC thread..[/QUOTE]I had motorcycles drive up on the sidewalk I was on to pass. They drove right past me, thinking I was safe on the sidewalk. Most dangerous place I have ever walked in my life. No stop signs and lights that don't work. The place is a real life Frogger game.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2878727]I had motorcycles drive up on the sidewalk I was on to pass. They drove right past me, thinking I was safe on the sidewalk. Most dangerous place I have ever walked in my life. No stop signs and lights that don't work. The place is a real life Frogger game.[/QUOTE]Frogger. Excellent description of Phils transportation, from the city to the provinces. Here, pedestrians don't need to go to an intersection to cross the street. "No stop signs and lights that don't work". They just cross anywhere. If traffic is stopped, its easy to cross the street, you just weave your way between car bumpers until you are on the other side. If traffic is moving, pinoy pedestrians will wait patiently by the side of the road, waiting for a clearance between vehicles. But they only wait about 30 seconds. Then they hold out their hand to stop the next oncoming vehicle, and make their way across the street by holding up their hand at each lane, to stop traffic*. Quaint system. In my country, that would be a recipe for getting an extended hospital stay.
Recently I hailed a taxi that was going northbound in the morning. Northbound traffic was in its usual daytime traffic jam, with zero traffic in the two southbound lanes. As we were sitting idly, I was about to suggest the driver turn around (a 180 degree turn), head south to a nearby east / west street that has little traffic. He beat me to the punch, turned the wheel hard left and stepped on the gas. The car whipped across both empty southbound lanes and up onto the sidewalk, leaving both tires on the passenger side on the sidewalk. "I will take the river drive sir". Great minds think alike. He had both southbound lanes to himself. Did he pull the car off the sidewalk and take the empty right southbound lane? No, he drove about 50-60 meters with the right half of the taxi up on the sidewalk before pulling the taxi off the sidewalk and into the right lane (we were coming up on a street light pole on the sidewalk).
* As if holding up your hand will stop a 1500 kg vehicle whose driver is not paying attention. It'll all be over soon.
Moved to the Gen Info thread.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2879054]Would you pay 35 k dollars for this ho ho ho. Some guys must be in pussy hell for a long time to bang this ugly chick. They could have flown to ac and stayed for a year and banged just as ugly for 50 dollars.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/business/stripper-and-escort-rakes-in-34k-per-week-catering-to-wall-street/[/URL][/QUOTE]Another article about the same woman:
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/escort-used-miradry-eliminate-armpit-sweating-hyperhydrosis-2023-12[/URL]
It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:
[B]For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.[/B]
I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's.
That miss Lee commands large immediate cash is proof that high-end ladies exist almost everywhere (notice I did not say extremely pretty ladies). Hi-end gals command the attention of rich folk for whatever reason, and they are not always the most attractive. We are accustomed to getting Manila FL for $60-ish USD LT, or AC gogo gals for $80-ish USD, province girls for $20-ish USD for LT, or Burgos (and BKK) gogo girls for $200-ish USD for LT. That's quite a range. Is it possible that there are Phils escorts (or girls working privately by word of mouth) commanding $1000 USD (or more) per hour? Of course there are. There will be similar in every country. Can you find younger and prettier than Miss Lee in other countries, for much less? Yes of course, that's why we are here. But the market is the market, and Miss Lee will continue to command her rate until she can't. These fellas aren't in pussy (or coffee) hell. They just have more money than they know what to do with, and 'speaks-4-languages' Miss Lee is gobbling it up.
Fellas, Noche Buena is almost upon us. Santa is firing up his ride. Hoping you can find a goodie, a bit like this one who, at 4' 10" and 75 lbs, has a nice touchy and some fossales lombalez thingys. Open your goodies in private, as this one and I have done multiple times.
[QUOTE=Gratass65;2876140]Thanks for a lot of good advice and tips. And especially this eye opener.
I'm in good shape, and is usualy out for 2-3 hours walking every day.
Budget aprox Euro 200 pr day?? Or should this be increast.
I have some experience with German FKK clubs. But that is FFFG (find, fuck and forget).
Now I'm actually looking for a lady who can also be nice to have breakfast with. And it will be a slightly different starting point.
I don't want to ruin my vacation by making a deal with a jealous, controlling lady. At the same time, I want to avoid dramatic scenes when I leave the Philippines.
I have to think a little more carefully about what might be the best. But it's nice planning. If there are more tips, they are welcome. If you have contacts I can use, please send a PM.
I will keep you updated along the way.[/QUOTE]How is the planning coming along?
What are your timing in January and where?
Regarding prices, service, looks, and the good old days in Europe as discussed in the Manila thread previously. A browse thru the first ISG London page (first 4 posts below), and the first 2 pages of Paris, shows a hodge-podge of mongers having to find a good massage parlour, or use escorts (little else) with strict time limits. Very difficult for outsiders to navigate as there is little point-and-shoot. And prices higher that the good-old-daze (pre-covid). Germany comes out the big winner with FKK clubs. Give me SE Asia.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2883704]Although 80 quid /1/2 hour is not bad I'm a little disappointed one has to pay first.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hfsmrz;2883656]Finished the deed about 5 minutes left and I promised to return sometime soon. She said, she is there twice a week. Damage: 80 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2880137]Seems to have upped her price as I'm sure I paid 150 ish for the hour and she's now quoting 200.
[b]Her stated age of 40 is probably accurate.[/b] You can tell that from her face but she has a very fit and well maintained body, definitely hits the gym regularly. Pics of her body are accurate but pics of face have light filters applied, still pretty though. Wir; not at her new prices, not worth that kind of money IMHO.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dwaits;2879550][b]60 pounds for DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. This was for 10 minutes of sex time.[/b] On a Sunday I saw Claudia (Brazilian) at 28 Peter st (upper floor). [b]60 pounds for LFK, DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. Finished with CBJ[/b] . Olive skin, scar across her stomach probably from a tummy tuck. Also big naturals but probably the. Also very friendly but I think she was happy that we spoke in a language other than English. [b]This was 10 min but might have run a little longer[/b] .[/QUOTE]France:
[QUOTE=Smatte;2849513]Loads of fakes and poor providers in France.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Siggleii;2848640]Nah. I love Paris, personally. [b]But you need to be quite experienced to find what you're looking for[/b] . Sirioja is experienced, no doubt, but maybe he is a bit jaded with the selection here. Not me, though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KcDark;2845648]I make no promises since I have already put Paris hobbying behind me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2845221][b]I gave up and prefer to drive every week end except for holidays to Germany.[/b] There, I can really see and decide. [b]I may be too picky now for level in Paris which is my town since birth[/b] .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2879609]Moved to the Gen Info thread.[/QUOTE]I threw up a little in my mouth.
What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.
A seasoned mongers view on Bangkok / thailand VS manila / AC / philippines.
I have to lead with I am biased towards the philippines.
Everything in Bangkok was more costly than what I pay in the philippines regarding sex and I am counting time and effort. The women in thailand were generally more wrinkled up and if not they were generally more expensive. The language barrier was just like it was the last time I was in Bangkok horrible. I can speak thai but needing to speak thai to get along with these girls feels synthetic and kind of ruins my time. My thai is not the best and this is all I have to rely on it to try to relate feelings with only a limited vocabulary. Sure you will see some attractive thai women but chances they will be attractive speak english AND not be a veteran of 5+ years is slim to none.
I like that in the philippines I can pick up a girl who is new to the game and get to know her on some level. I enjoy being able to relate to her and understand at least a modicum of how she ticks and her life. I find it a much more fulfilling "relationship". So in this sense Bangkok and thailand for the most part falls short for me. I was there for some time but I brought along some pussy with me and had the opportunity to partake as well but I decided not to. It just felt like I was going to a fast food joint and ordering some overpriced pussy.
I usually monger close to the lao border where the girls feel more genuine and sweet over all which I can't get enough off but the big city BKK liberal girls are not for me anymore I have grown out of it.
Bangkok does have better food BKK wins here by a land slide the food in the philippines is all trash in comparison. Tourist attractions in thailand wins hands down and accommodations are nicer and generally more affordable.
But I think the philippines beats thailand in a few key areas that mean much more to me. Such as access to creampies, deeper relationships, and due to people generally speaking english it is easier to be accepted into the Philippine community as a whole. I don't think a foreigner ever really get accepted into thai culture unless you do all of the buddhist crap like become a monk and I am just not interested in that.
While I think Thailand beats the philippines in every external way. I think the philippines beats places like thailand where you have a language barrier to contend with in an intangible internal way. Pinay Catholic girls really have spoiled me I think for right now I just prefer my catholic pinay pussy. You may disagree but this is just my opinion.
[QUOTE=RollAides;2892895]I threw up a little in my mouth.
What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.[/QUOTE]Sorry RA, just saw this. My post before was not a description of what is / was happening in America, it was a description of what one woman has been doing. There is nothing unique about high-end hookers in any country. There are enough rich wall-street type guys in NYC who think as little of paying $10,000 USD / hour as you or I do for paying for a cup of coffee at 7-11, to keep high-end girls in business.
What I will say here might bother some: The more expensive a girl is, does not necessarily mean she is more hot. Some high-end girls who are less hot often stay in the game by plying GFE / pampering experience (or alternately, she becomes a dominatrix). Many of us might say: "Why would you pay so much for that average woman when you can go to Thailand / Columbia / Moscow for a killer bod?" It is a logical question; but I think it doesn't matter why, as many wealthy fellas are just fine staying at home, taking the girls that please them (not us).
For the rest of America, there are attractive incall / outcall girls at $300-$500/ HR (strict time limit, covered, the opposite of GFE), and AMP massage parlors for happy ending. There are also strip clubs, with varying results.
I have seen a similar thing in Phils. There are fellas who travel to Phils and take an average-looking (6 or 7) FL gal for a week or two, including island-hopping (Boracay, Palawan), never sex her, and give her good coin for her time. We have tried on this board to quantify our game, but there are elements of the game that can't be quantified.
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897350]Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?[/QUOTE]Hi Travis. Whilst my personal preference is a nice little Filipino pussy, a few girls have mentioned to me from the outset, "Not in the Butt" or similar. I don't think it's a country specific thing. I think it would be a negotiation and the more money you have in your wallet, the better chance you have. Having said that, I wouldn't advise 'surprising' a girl by 'throwing it up the back door' without her prior knowledge.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897350]Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?[/QUOTE]Just personal experience here. Every Filipina I've met says they don't want anal. I married a pinay two years ago, and she was curious about it, so we tried it and she liked it. A pinay GF before said she wanted to try it with me, but I broke things off before we did.
I may be wrong here, but I think most Filipino men are just as adventurous sexually as anyone else. From the girls who told me they had attempted or experienced anal from a Filipino BF, the experience really borders on rape. They were consenting to vaginal sex, and he suddenly tried to cram it up her ass without lube or anything else to help it not be painful. No wonder it isn't well-received.
The. There is the perception that it is dirty. Which it is if you don't prepare properly.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897350]Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?[/QUOTE]I have had a pretty good experience with anal with filiipinas. First one begged me to "fuck my ass honey" so I did. Next one I talked to online about it for some time then when we met, first round deep in her pussy, second deep in her ass unloading my bals. We did a bunch of anal after that. 3rd one wanted anal but never got around to it, such a tight little pussy. I guess YMMV on this but whatever you do, lube up stick fingers in (and have her squeeze to release the sphiincter muscles) and work your way in.
GG.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897350]Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?[/QUOTE]In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.
Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2879609]Moved to the Gen Info thread.
Another article about the same woman:
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/escort-used-miradry-eliminate-armpit-sweating-hyperhydrosis-2023-12[/URL]
It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:
[B]For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.[/B]
I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's..[/QUOTE]Agree this lady is not attractive. I've said this before, I travel allot around US and women here are sad. They are either fat, ugly or too old. If you do spot a attractive one she has a ring on her finger that would choke a horse. Paying prices listed I guess is not surprising in this pussy hell hole but that type of money you could travel. Why they don't I do not know. Like once with me two cute Asian girls in Vegas wanted $2500 each, of course I laughed. Ladies that's 5 grand which would pay my trip to Asia for a month and I would have many who look like you and better plus GFE which I'm sure you are not. With a scorn on their face they said well then you should go, this is the US not Asia. Granted the travel is a pain but in the end the benefits outweigh the travel. This place sucks for women and anyone paying those prices here I think should have their head examined.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2897446]In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.
Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.[/QUOTE]I read in a medical journal several years ago that only 20% of people have the nerves in the rectum that allows for anal sex to be enjoyable. In my exploits over the years I have only ran into two women who actually enjoyed it. For me one time in Thailand a lady offered to do "rimming" on me. I guess I am in the 80% because it did nothing for me.
I appreciate all the responses to my query about Pinay anal. Thank you all. I look forward to hearing from more guys who have had experience with asking for or being offered the backdoor experience in The Philippines. In the meantime, here are my comments on the responses I've received so far.
PhilJoy, in my experience it is indeed a matter of negotiation. I am upfront about my desires. To be sure, some women say "no way, no how," which saves us both time. Those who say "yes" or "maybe" do charge more for anal, which is fine with me. I would NEVER attempt anal by way of surprise.
Aml3740, I can certainly see how bad experiences with guys who attempted anal without cooperation and consent would turn women off to the whole project. But that's not my modus operandi. As for it being "dirty," I've had backdoor sex hundreds of times with at least 20 women. Only once or twice have gotten a little mud on my shaft, but that comes with the territory.
Geneva Guy, your response gives me hope because it's written from your firsthand perspective. I hope I meet some Filipinas who are as open-minded as the women you describe.
Sammon, I'm not convinced that refusing anal sex is a religious or specifically Catholic or Christian thing. Certainly the women in South and Central America whose backdoors I have entered had no hang-ups about it, despite being Catholic. Nor have the Dutch, German, and Greek women I've been with.
AggieDad1, I'the like to see that journal article. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I have had long-term relationships with two women both of whom were anal enthusiasts and have had casual sex with many more who enjoy it, especially when it's combined with clitoral stimulation. Perhaps it has a lot to do with how they were introduced to backdoor sex. Maybe only 20% of the women in the survey had first experiences with men who take it slow, use lots of lube, and begin with fingering or a small toy.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897467]I appreciate all the responses to my query about Pinay anal. Thank you all. I look forward to hearing from more guys who have had experience with asking for or being offered the backdoor experience in The Philippines.[/QUOTE]The fellas are crazy for thinking it. Little 5' pinays?
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2897467]women in the survey had first experiences with men who take it slow, use lots of lube, and begin with fingering or a small toy.[/QUOTE]I heard that's best.
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2897416]I have had a pretty good experience with anal with filiipinas. First one begged me to "fuck my ass honey" so I did. Next one I talked to online about it for some time then when we met, first round deep in her pussy, second deep in her ass unloading my bals. We did a bunch of anal after that. 3rd one wanted anal but never got around to it, such a tight little pussy. I guess YMMV on this but whatever you do, lube up stick fingers in (and have her squeeze to release the sphiincter muscles) and work your way in.
GG.[/QUOTE]That's my experience too: the occasional 'I'm broke, you can fuck my ass for a tip' and that girls are a lot more comfortable on subsequent dates if they know the guy won't tear into her.
I've also written a few times here of the threesome dyke whose pussy was off limits, even for girl on girl, when she was too drunk. Then it was backdoor action only. Go figure!!
IMFITP. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2897668]I've also written a few times here of the threesome dyke whose pussy was off limits, even for girl on girl, when she was too drunk. Then it was backdoor action only. Go figure!![/QUOTE]Hahaha. Recognize by chance?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2898646]Hahaha. Recognize by chance?[/QUOTE]Def not us: my dick is much bigger and she is a much darker Morena. 😜.
All jokes aside, I don't even know if she is still working in Sabang: It's been years since I've been back; she'd have a few years on her now and; she was well and truely on the hunt for a boyfie when I last saw her. She lived in Batangas and was only coming across to work whenever boyfie wouldn't find out.
I think it was another of those good times that's now good memories rather than something I would try to repeat.
Cheers. G.
Hello Fellas, I've been to MNL multiple times but never toured the Islands mainly because short-time chica's were enough for me. Now I'm a bit older and looking to hook up with mainly non-pro's or kindly stated "internet. Semi"s". My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.
The Dumegete threads are dead. From many months ago the reports were it's not easy to get laid there. It's mainly a girlfriend spot. Bit disappointed to hear that because the internet dates can be very flakey but I am cool with checking out a new place I have heard was nice for years. Only problem is I don't know the terrain and don't know anyone who has been there. Google maps shows a spread out coast line from the airport to the south edge with the universities being closer to the airport. If any one has been and can point me to a nice central / walking area to book hotel I would greatly appreciate. Walking to the beach would be nice, hopefully a normal internet chica will enjoy a meal / drink with me. Maybe I get lucky. But if my booked hotel is across the street form the local LA CAFE that could screw up the romance LOL. Obviously nobody wants to post their favorite Hotel - (you can PM me:) if you're that kind. Perhaps I can grab some intel on the ground for you) - But seriously just a general area like. Nearby this intersection, or this university etc, Book 1/2 -1 mile from this bar. I'll be glad to share how this trip turns out. And I don't mind sharing phone #'s I collect either as long as I don't plan on importing her back to the states;).
I'll be in the same "unknown" spot for General Santos as well. If that is your area. A neighborhood I should be pointed to would be appreciated. Looks like there is lots if information / active threads for Cebu city.
[QUOTE=SportMongr;2900552]My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.
The Dumegete threads are dead. From many months ago the reports were it's not easy to get laid there....If any one has been and can point me to a nice central / walking area to book hotel I would greatly appreciate. Walking to the beach would be nice, hopefully a normal internet chica will enjoy a meal / drink with me. Maybe I get lucky. But if my booked hotel is across the street form the local LA CAFE that could screw up the romance LOL....[/QUOTE]Do whatever you enjoy. However, only two or three days in each location may be counter productive. Especially in the provinces. It can take a day or two to find your feet and time also needs to be allowed for no show girls or those that may take a date or two before doing the deed.
You can get laid in Duma. The downside is that so many foreigners live there now that we are nothing new to the girls and don't automatically attract any attention. It has two main areas. If you want hotels, eateries and nightlife stay in the city centre, near the Boulevard If you want beaches and swimming then Dauin is only 20 minutes away. Tha LA Cafe equivalent is Why Not, the local night club with freelancers inside. There are also freelancers strolling the Boulevard at night but you will have to search for a diamond in the rough.
Sorry, I can't help with Gensan.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=SportMongr;2900552]Hello Fellas, I've been to MNL multiple times but never toured the Islands mainly because short-time chica's were enough for me. Now I'm a bit older and looking to hook up with mainly non-pro's or kindly stated "internet. Semi"s". My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2900559]Do whatever you enjoy. However, only two or three days in each location may be counter productive. Especially in the provinces. It can take a day or two to find your feet and time also needs to be allowed for no show girls or those that may take a date or two before doing the deed.[/QUOTE]Agree with G. A few days in each province can be fun travel, but finding poon in provinces is not easy on short notice. Girls will expect to be courted on a few dates before tossing off her kit.
A better idea might be to find a girl you knew from Manila before who wants to travel with you to those places.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2900630]Agree with G. A few days in each province can be fun travel, but finding poon in provinces is not easy on short notice. Girls will expect to be courted on a few dates before tossing off her kit.
A better idea might be to find a girl you knew from Manila before who wants to travel with you to those places.[/QUOTE]Ouch, I should have known better. Looks like I have to rethink this travel idea. I agree with everything you guys said. It would be a nice trip, a lot of new areas and city stops. Just wouldn't be a lot of non working lady romance. I didn't fly across the world to watch local dudes curled up on the beach with hotties while I have my hand in my pants;).
Especially since most of the profiles I want to chat with are flakey even just responding on what's app. I like the idea to internet hunt in Manila see if there is anything worthy of flying out with. I'll keep you all posted if I learn something new or this turns out well.
Much appreciated.
Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do.
I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week.
In your opinion is Subic good for it?
I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience.
I need to ask 2 questions:
1) What better area for me to rent an apartment close to the action in Subic?
2) If a girl stays with me for one whole week, when do I have to pay her around?
But above all, is Subic good for me? I don't like to spend a fortune.
Thank you very much!!
I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.
[QUOTE=JonesLover;2902111]Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do. I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week. In your opinion is Subic good for it? I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience. I need to ask 2 questions: 1) What better area for me to rent an apartment close to the action in Subic? 2) If a girl stays with me for one whole week, when do I have to pay her around? But above all, is Subic good for me? I don't like to spend a fortune. Thank you very much!![/QUOTE]Is it subic or olongapo (barrio baretto) that you are contemplating?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2902151]I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure exactly what you're asking but she should use her Philippines passport to leave and reenter the Philippines, and use her USA passport to enter the USA and leave the USA.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2902151]I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2902319]I'm not sure exactly what you're asking but she should use her Philippines passport to leave and reenter the Philippines, and use her USA passport to enter the USA and leave the USA.[/QUOTE]Also not sure. Did she try walking into a local BI office to ask? Alternately email:
[EMAIL]xinfo@immigration.gov.ph[/EMAIL]
[EMAIL]immigPH@immigration.gov.ph[/EMAIL]
And website contact:
[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/contacts/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Transporter;2902312]Is it subic or olongapo (barrio baretto) that you are contemplating?[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about Subic or Olongapo.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2902151]I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents DG.
She can't use the USA passport and departure as she has never entered the country on it, so use the Philippine one.
But show the USA one at the same time as proof she a USA citizen and is going there.
I know a pinay with 2 passports and she uses the Philippine one to enter while showing her international passport (western country) at the same time. No issues ever.
On departure does same thing and then uses the international passport on her arrival in the country where she now lives.
Westie has a good idea also and this pinay did that as well just to double check as some immigration officers can be 'difficult'.
PM if you want to chat more DG.
[QUOTE=JonesLover;2902111]Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do.
I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week.
In your opinion is Subic good for it?
I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience.
I need to ask 2 questions:[/QUOTE]Hi JL,
On my very first trip to the Philippines about 20 years ago I stayed in the Subic Freeport Zone and although I was disappointed by the beach scene (I naively expected back then that anything by the water to be paradise in the Philippines) it was easy to score without visiting the bars. All you had to do was ask a random target on the street or the hotel guard if they knew where I could meet a pretty girl and offer them a tip.
Keep in mind this was way before there was so much info out there on the internet, and I had no idea there was action a few miles along the road. Specifically on the Subic region, maybe some of the other guys can offer you some better advice as I now normally travel to Sabang where I know some locals and am always sorted without having to pay bar fines. I then try and find a nice island somewhere to get over it and find a really decent beach location on Bantayan or similar.
It doesn't matter where I've travelled, you can avoid the bars just by befriending the hotel guard or a local and asking the question. I even took a 200 peso taxi ride one day just for the purpose of asking the driver if he knew a pretty girl that would like to stay with me for a few days. (Almost every taxi I've got into, the driver has always asked if I was married or had a Filipina wife or girlfriend) . Within two hours I was set. Obviously she was related and the family benefitted financially from my time spent with her. I think I fed her and got everything else in addition for about 2000 pesos per day.
Personally, I don't have time to do the dating sites to line something up in advance with the chance nothing will eventuate. For me it's a huge waste of time I don't have to spare.
I also make a habit now of getting the girls to pop their WhatsApp details in my phone (I don't use this app for anything else, but all the Filipina's use it) and that way I've got girls lined up for my next visit.
Hope some of this helps.
Phil.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2902339]Also not sure. Did she try walking into a local BI office to ask? Alternately email:
[EMAIL]xinfo@immigration.gov.ph[/EMAIL]
[EMAIL]immigPH@immigration.gov.ph[/EMAIL]
And website contact:
[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/contacts/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for the information.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2902395]My 2 cents DG.
She can't use the USA passport and departure as she has never entered the country on it, so use the Philippine one.
But show the USA one at the same time as proof she a USA citizen and is going there.
I know a pinay with 2 passports and she uses the Philippine one to enter while showing her international passport (western country) at the same time. No issues ever.
On departure does same thing and then uses the international passport on her arrival in the country where she now lives.
Westie has a good idea also and this pinay did that as well just to double check as some immigration officers can be 'difficult'.
PM if you want to chat more DG.[/QUOTE]WR your 2 cents is quite valuable. Thanks for the input.
I will advise her to be prepared and give herself plenty of time for BI interrogation. And to also check out the websites Westies provided.
Been silent for a while.
Anchored in Northern Ph, and lots in Facebook though prices swing from 2 K for 2 to 5 K for 1. Depends on their desperation level I guess.
No pics this time.
PSA: CP announces their annual summer holiday fest. Cheap seats when purchased before March 31, for travel between April 1 and Sept. 30 (6 travel period).
Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.
[QUOTE=Amnesia;2903765]Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.[/QUOTE]Research Alona / Bohol, White Beach / Sabang and Subic to find which suits you best.
All take a while to get to so I wouldn't be cramming all three into 7 days if you want a relaxing time.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. If you have game and / or want to try your luck with regular tourists, lots of white and brown girls in El Nido / Puerto Princesa.
Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.
Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.
KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.
Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.
Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.
Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.
Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.
Enough rambling for now.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2904229]Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.
Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.
KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.
Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.
Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.
Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.
Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.
Enough rambling for now.[/QUOTE]Do you if any of those massage shops there do BJ? I lived in Cambodia for 6 months and thinking about moving back and I will hit up Ho Chi Minh.
Social media keeps giving me there great deals from travel agents to fly to Manila eg £399 ex London with Malaysia Airlines. These ads get hundreds of replies: how much ex Frankfurt, Paris etc and the answer is always to call the travel agent. Doing skyscanner or google searches, Malaysia Airways, to take this example, offer prices nowhere near that level but the agents get lots of enquiries. Due in part to thee being a large Pinay ex pat community, many of whom would like to holiday at home at a reasonable price.
I knew a Viet guy who had cheap prices to Hanoi and HCM the Viets would avail of but these agents seem a right scam. Air China seems to be the cheapest (Saudi is problematic because of connections). Are these ads the old case of if it is too good to be true it is a scam or am I too cynical? Anyone got any tips on cheap prices?
[QUOTE=Amnesia;2903765]Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.[/QUOTE]Hi Amnesia,
From my experience Bantayan in Cebu has been the most relaxed beach destination but you may have to line up a girl in Cebu City first.
It also takes some effort to get there but it's well worth it.
Boracay is very touristy and although being quite nice, I think it doesn't live up to the hype. Having said that, I managed to find some really nice freelancers there for the GFE.
Sabang has a good little scene happening but you have to walk around to the quieter Laguna Beach to actually see a beach.
It's more geared to the bar scene as opposed to the GFE for a week, but once you have some contact with the locals it works out well.
The good thing is it's relatively easy to get to from Manila with a two. Three hour bus / road trip and then a fastcraft trip from the port at Batangas.
Never had problems with safety in any of these places.
Phil.
Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.
Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.
First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.
S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).
Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.
[URL]http://www.tourism.gov.ph/files/2024/tourism_demand/03/03-08/Arrivals/2023%20-%20Visitor%20Arrivals%20by%20Country%20of%20Residence%20and%20Monthly%20Ranking%20(revised)%20 (2%20 files%20 merged)[/URL] Pdf.
[URL]www.tourism.gov.ph[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2908405]Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.
Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.
First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.
S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).
Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.
[/QUOTE]The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2908410]The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.[/QUOTE]I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).
This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.
An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?
[URL]https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40034268[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2908414]I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).
This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.
An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?
[URL]https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40034268[/URL][/QUOTE]One thing is Thailand has eased some visa requirements to get tourists back and have been promoting tourism from surrounding countries. Also Thailand was quicker to drop covid rules than the Phills. I may have missed it but have not seen much effort from the Phills into promotion.
Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2908421]Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.[/QUOTE]FB Protip #1: Don't ask me how I know but never every lok at anything related to Taylor Swift. You will never escape the recommendations etc again. 😃.
Its been said many times that any logical assessment has LOS beating PI on looks, numbers, accommodation, food etc. The list goes on. Really the only compensation is English, BBFS and GFE. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that most PI visitors come here due to nostalgia or familiarity rather than a logical assessment of alternatives. Many new guys are now choosing LOS, PHN or even the new options, VND, Jakarta etc.
Of course many old hands are sticking with PH but moving away from the traditional MNL, AC, CEB and finding the joys of the provinces or areas less travelled.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2908410]The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.[/QUOTE]Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2908512]Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.[/QUOTE]I used to be pay and fuck guy. Its probably because of my age that I have started liking company if I find a girl whom I click (and if I know I may try her a few times). Walking around, having coffee or lunch helps me relax since I know I can start my show whenever I want as opposed to being time bounded. Sometimes I get high in mornings like 6 or 8 AM or at times around 2 PM. At 1 AM, my junior would be sleepy and may need more time.
Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.
Sugar babby confessions:
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/21-sugar-baby-confessions-thatll-091602556.html[/URL]
My fav:
"I've been a sugar baby for close to five years. I met my first sugar daddy on Tinder, and we've been happily together ever since. We've gone on trips to South America and Europe, eaten at luxury / Michelin-starred restaurants, and stayed at luxury hotels / spa resorts. I've received designer bags (mostly Gucci and Chanel), had my rent paid, received a monthly allowance, and been given many tech gifts (gaming desktop, gaming monitor, printer for university, iPad Pro (and) pen, Apple watch, iPhones for my sister and I, Nintendo Switch, laptops for my sister and I, etc.). [B]For one of my birthday presents, I received liposuction surgery, and he paid the full $8,000 amount![/B] I actually got the iPad Pro and pen from another sugar daddy on our second date, which blew my mind quite honestly. ".
Second caveat: You might have to Lipo your SB.
Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2908789]Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.
Sugar babby confessions:
Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.[/QUOTE]Some guys want company, plenty of reports here about guts taking girls on trips which I understand is slightly different. But SDs by definition are older guys.
But there's a new phenomenon with the digital nomads, earning western money living in Phils. Let's call them sugar mads for now. These young guys walk around the malls with pyt's buying things for them. These guys possibly have more disposable income than retirees. So maybe this type of relationship will eventually replace the SDs.
You've heard all of the horror stories of Filipinas (or any Asian nationality) getting one over on the old foreigner in love. Well here's another. I chatted this girl a few years ago, never went anywhere but I'd still see her profile on facebook and tiktok so we'd chat every so often. After a lengthy absense on my part I chat her and find out she's got engaged online. Hasn't met him in many many months but will 'stay loyal to him'. Is that a new house in your tiktok I wonder?. Years go by and finally this Filipina has this old guy in her tiktoks and on facebook. Well good for them I'm thinking, she's got a great looking body and he's getting on in his years so maybe they are happy.
Then I see this on my facebook "can we talk? I thought it was a salesman, been getting spammed with friend requests. Until I realized it was the face of the girl with the guy. So I replied sure we can chat. And then the horror stories comes out. He built her a house, ran out of money while here and she got upset and broke things off. Family dumped him at the airport without a word being said, luggage kicked to the pavement. But he's still using those awful words you hate to hear like "she's a good girl", " we are getting married in 3 months", "I really love her". But the reality hasn't set in yet for him. She's gone "until he comes back with more money". How much money has he spent so far you ask? He even said 'she'd give me back the house if I asked'. Still in denial. Anyone want to take a guess? I'll make it mulitple choice.
A. 600 k pesos.
Be. 2 million pesos.
See. 6 million pesos.
The. 12 million pesos.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2908895]You've heard all of the horror stories of Filipinas (or any Asian nationality) getting one over on the old foreigner in love. [/QUOTE]Years ago before I first travelled to The Philippines my mother's boss owned a big company and had a lot of business deals going on in Cebu. When he heard I was going to Subic and Manila for the first time, he called me and said, "Don't fall in love with them, definitely don't marry them, but have a great time pretending you are." He had married a Filipina and had a few kids with her, but she drained his bank account.
I'm now in my fifties and enjoying life. A lovely 'innocent' Filipina works with me and she's had no exposure to the typical bar scene and is the best worker I've ever had, so I'm not generalizing all the girls as 'Filipina brides', just like there were Russian brides in the 80's and 90's.
By no means do I classify myself as a SD. Sure, I'll pay for a meal, a hotel or a trip to an island for a week. But I know once I go back home for work, some poor guy will fall in love with them and they'll empty their wallets and bank accounts (I see the guys gushing over them on their Facebook accounts).
And I'd never blame an older guy 'falling for a hot little chick.' But the reality check doesn't come into it for a lot of older guys when they're exposed to a fresh little vagina that they haven't been near for years. Or those that have been to the Philippines later in life without doing a bit of research first.
As for the girls, it's basic economics. There's a family to feed, and an extended one at that.
Nothing wrong with being a real SD if you can afford it.
Just my thoughts and observations. Phil.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2908895] <snip> Still in denial. Anyone want to take a guess? I'll make it mulitple choice.
A. 600 k pesos.
Be. 2 million pesos.
See. 6 million pesos.
The. 12 million pesos.[/QUOTE](C) 6 Million Pesos.
~BKK
There are two sides to a story and there is the truth comes to mind with this one. Since you seem to blindly believe what she told you?
[QUOTE=Breadman;2908895]You've heard all of the horror stories of Filipinas (or any Asian nationality) getting one over on the old foreigner in love. Well here's another. I chatted this girl a few years ago, never went anywhere but I'd still see her profile on facebook and tiktok so we'd chat every so often. After a lengthy absense on my part I chat her and find out she's got engaged online. Hasn't met him in many many months but will 'stay loyal to him'. Is that a new house in your tiktok I wonder?. Years go by and finally this Filipina has this old guy in her tiktoks and on facebook. Well good for them I'm thinking, she's got a great looking body and he's getting on in his years so maybe they are happy.
Then I see this on my facebook "can we talk? I thought it was a salesman, been getting spammed with friend requests. Until I realized it was the face of the girl with the guy. So I replied sure we can chat. And then the horror stories comes out. He built her a house, ran out of money while here and she got upset and broke things off. Family dumped him at the airport without a word being said, luggage kicked to the pavement. But he's still using those awful words you hate to hear like "she's a good girl", " we are getting married in 3 months", "I really love her". But the reality hasn't set in yet for him. She's gone "until he comes back with more money". How much money has he spent so far you ask? He even said 'she'd give me back the house if I asked'. Still in denial. Anyone want to take a guess? I'll make it mulitple choice.
A. 600 k pesos.
Be. 2 million pesos.
See. 6 million pesos.
The. 12 million pesos.[/QUOTE]
Hello brothers and friends.
I'm visiting phillipines this month end for 9 days as my first trip.
Can you suggest me what is the best way to split the trip between places?
I was thinking 2 days Manila 3 days Cebu and 4 days Angeles city. Is it good enough? Need guidance.
I ahve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Dubai, Europe and many other mongering destinations. Reading the forum makes me look, kL is not so convenient and easy with many options like Bangkok and Pattaya.
Please help me with leads!
Where to stay in all these three place. I will do some touristy stuff and mongering also.
Which clubs to visit for freelancers!?
Is there any places or clubs where I can find girls who like to hook up for free or gifts?
Which are the best places for massage with FS?
Which are the best KTVs with girls for FS?
Which strip clubs are good?
Also please tell me which places to avoid?
Thanks in advance.
Can help in India and Dubai.
Surya.
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2914431]Hello brothers and friends.
I'm visiting phillipines this month end for 9 days as my first trip. Can you suggest me what is the best way to split the trip between places? I was thinking 2 days Manila 3 days Cebu and 4 days Angeles city. Is it good enough? Need guidance.
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Please help me with leads! Where to stay in all these three place. I will do some touristy stuff and mongering also. Which clubs to visit for freelancers!? Is there any places or clubs where I can find girls who like to hook up for free or gifts? Which are the best places for massage with FS? Which are the best KTVs with girls for FS? Which strip clubs are good? Also please tell me which places to avoid?
Thanks in advance. Can help in India and Dubai. Surya.[/QUOTE]Yikes. This gives the appearance of having not RTTF. Will suggest 5 nights Makati, 4 nights AC. Save Cebu for a later trip maybe. Alternately, 5 nights Makati, 4 nights Cebu city (as post-covid prices have doubled for barfines in AC, and girlie quality and service is reported as having dropped).
Really, learn to RTTF the threads for each city you want to visit before posting questions. The majority of your posts are simply oodles of questions about your upcoming first-visit trips. This is just a sample from the first page of your posting history:
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2913471]Hello brothers and friends. [b]Can you suggest me what are the best options available?
Please help me with leads! Where to stay? I will do some touristy stuff and mongering also. Which clubs to visit for freelancers!? Is there any places or clubs where I can find girls who like to hook up for free or gifts? Which are the best places for massage with FS? Which are the best KTVs with girls for FS? Which strip clubs are good? Also please tell me which places to avoid?[/b] Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2028679]Hello friends and seniors,
I'm coming to Delhi for 3 day trip from Monday. It's been long and no contacts as of now. [b]It will be great if someone helps me out with few indie options and MP's With FS (I need suggestion for a good therapist). I know I have not posted for long. But been in Delhi turf long ago and had some good time. Looking forward for this trip.
Expecting help from old friends and kind hearted members.[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2112703]Hello friends,
My Pattaya trip is scheduled from 30th December to 2nd January. [b]Need suggestion for a hotel as my favourite LK Metropole and LK Renaissance looks fully booked. My requirements are.
4) of course girl friendly with Max 2 girls allowed.
Preferably located at second road or near LK metro. Rates would be 2-3 k baht per night. Kindly suggest me good options friends.[/b] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2811089]Hello brothers, I'm coming this weekend to Bangalore. Never mongered here. [b]Need help with contacts of indes and FS based spas. Kindly help if possible and DM me[/b].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;1795555]Hello friends,
I'm back to chennai after spending sometime in Delhi and Hyderabad for few months. As it had been sometime [b]I don't have any good contacts in Chennai. I know Chennai in this season is dry. But if any seniors or friends can help me with some good contacts it would be good for me. I can spare some help in Delhi, Hyderabad, and Kolkata too.
My preference would be indies and MPS with FS or B2B. I know both are difficult to get in Chennai. But I think experienced mongers can surely get it through and give some help.[/b] Thanking you all. Expecting some.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2118099][b]Can anyone quickly help by saying whether LK president and LK celestite are GF hotel or not?[/b] Thank you.[/QUOTE]A concern is that you will not write descriptive field reports after your Phils trip (taking, without giving).
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2914431]Hello brothers and friends.
I'm visiting phillipines this month end for 9 days as my first trip.....
I ahve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Dubai, Europe and many other mongering destinations. Reading the forum makes me look, kL is not so convenient and easy with many options like Bangkok and Pattaya.
Please help me with leads!
Can help in India and Dubai.
Surya.[/QUOTE]Wow, 13 questions in one post must be some sort of record especially from someone who has been to so many mongering destinations without providing information or reports to help others in the past.
Its hard to imagine how you will return the favour with "help in India and Dubai" when you still only ask others to answer basic questions for these places too. Do you actually have any info that will help others?
I'm normally helpful, even to newbies who don't know what they are doing, but there is usually some effort put in first or reciprocation of information.
Its surprising that some members get moderated for life for the slightest infraction but posts like this pass though without issue.
G.
Your timeline is really whatever you want. But, if it is your first time, I would pick one place and stay, or maybe two at max, so you can get used to the area first. 9 days really isn't a very long time, especially if you factor in travel time to the Philippines (if you're from a western country) and you get jet lagged. I would suggest to stay Manila if you want to have other activities to do other than mongering. I've never been to Cebu, but it's supposed to be nice. Just realize that you will be wasting maybe half a day in just travel to the airport, in the airport, flying, and going to your hotel. 110 million people in a country this small = major gridlock. Just my advice. . .
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2914431]Hello brothers and friends.
I'm visiting phillipines this month end for 9 days as my first trip.
Can you suggest me what is the best way to split the trip between places?
I was thinking 2 days Manila 3 days Cebu and 4 days Angeles city. Is it good enough? Need guidance.
I ahve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Dubai, Europe and many other mongering destinations. Reading the forum makes me look, kL is not so convenient and easy with many options like Bangkok and Pattaya.
Please help me with leads!
Where to stay in all these three place. I will do some touristy stuff and mongering also.
Which clubs to visit for freelancers!?
Is there any places or clubs where I can find girls who like to hook up for free or gifts?
Which are the best places for massage with FS?
Which are the best KTVs with girls for FS?
Which strip clubs are good?
Also please tell me which places to avoid?
Thanks in advance.
Can help in India and Dubai.
Surya.[/QUOTE]
Many thanks WestCoast for your advice to the Gentleman. I too was mighty perplexed as to how to break my Philippines trip. Your advice came in the nick of time and it will help me in better planning. I am though breaking my trip in Singapore first only for a day as we do not have a direct flight from Delhi to Manila and getting a Philippine visa is another pain in the ass by going to the embassy after an appointment. I too can only spare maximum of 12 days out of my schedule. The Singapore is necessary for me as once my passport is stamped with Singapore entry; I get visa on arrival. Plus, it is a very long flight from New Delhi to Manila with a stop over in between any part of SEA. Many thanks again. Allow me to bother you, just in case. Although, I have read the forum and updated myself.
Regards.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2914548]Yikes. This gives the appearance of having not RTTF. Will suggest 5 nights Makati, 4 nights AC. Save Cebu for a later trip maybe. Alternately, 5 nights Makati, 4 nights Cebu city (as post-covid prices have doubled for barfines in AC, and girlie quality and service is reported as having dropped).
Really, learn to RTTF the threads for each city you want to visit before posting questions. The majority of your posts are simply oodles of questions about your upcoming first-visit trips. This is just a sample from the first page of your posting history:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndStallion31;2914431]Hello brothers and friends.
I'm visiting phillipines this month end for 9 days as my first trip.
Can you suggest me what is the best way to split the trip between places?
I was thinking 2 days Manila 3 days Cebu and 4 days Angeles city. Is it good enough? Need guidance.
I ahve been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Dubai, Europe and many other mongering destinations. Reading the forum makes me look, kL is not so convenient and easy with many options like Bangkok and Pattaya.
Please help me with leads!
........
Surya.[/QUOTE]Mate,
I would have to agree with the sentiments of the fellow forum members. I did respond to your PM on Kuala Lumpur scene and answered almost all your questions. But, I do see a pattern where you are only taking and not giving back to the forum. Couldn't find any field report to contribute to the forum. Anyway, the answers to most of your questions are available in the forum posts if you care to spend sometime to RTFF. Good luck with your upcoming trip.
Does anyone still have a use for their old 3 G phones? My home country is joining the 19th century and cutting off 3 G service. I'm pretty sure the same has already happened in the Phills and everywhere else I go. Hence my faithful play phone will soon be no more. No idea why but I also have a drawer full of similar old technology.
Are they all paperweights, destined for the bin, or can they be useful for something?? I don't want to be 100% reliant on wifi or hotspotting other modern phones.
I guess I could stop being a tight wad and shell out $100 for a replacement. 🤑.
As an aside, I'm absolutely shitting myself that I'll loose all my WhatsApp contacts, photos and messages during a transfer to a new device. Access to the original phone number, for third part authentication, SMS messages etc is loooong gone.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2915015] As an aside, I'm absolutely shitting myself that I'll loose all my WhatsApp contacts, photos and messages during a transfer to a new device. Access to the original phone number, for third part authentication, SMS messages etc is loooong gone.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Hi G, I don't think you'll have issues with the WhatsApp contacts and transferring photos etc. Basically because you'll still be logging into your same account on a different device. I've also made a point of jotting down the names and numbers of my WhatsApp girls in my 'little black book' (with all my passwords) just in case things do turn to shit one day. I can't afford to lose that info!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2915015]Does anyone still have a use for their old 3 G phones? My home country is joining the 19th century and cutting off 3 G service. I'm pretty sure the same has already happened in the Phills and everywhere else I go. Hence my faithful play phone will soon be no more. No idea why but I also have a drawer full of similar old technology.
Are they all paperweights, destined for the bin, or can they be useful for something?? I don't want to be 100% reliant on wifi or hotspotting other modern phones.
I guess I could stop being a tight wad and shell out $100 for a replacement.
As an aside, I'm absolutely shitting myself that I'll loose all my WhatsApp contacts, photos and messages during a transfer to a new device. Access to the original phone number, for third part authentication, SMS messages etc is loooong gone.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Them getting rid of 3 g is to repurpose the 3 g frequencies, out of the countries that have made this move, they all still have and EDGE network up which is 2 G so your phone should still function in that capacity however 3 g would be gone. Of course the phone will still continue to work in the philippines without issue, might just have to use a new phone for the home country and old faithful for philippines.