Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Sum12;2005461]On my 3rd day went to Nyan Nyan at Soi 33 as I had a good experience there in my previous visit. The bad thing about this place is you are given a book to choose a girl. There were only 4-5 girls so I choose Anne. She was a 7-7. 5 so I was not disappointed. Once in the room she showered me then gave an amazing massage. She was a bit shy but gave a good BBBJ and the session was very good in multiple positions with DFK. Will I repeat, yes I think I will before my vacation is over.[/QUOTE]Hi Sum12,

Is she the same girl as the girl named Ann on their website?

[URL]http://nyan2massage.net[/URL]

Side she give a nuru massage or oil massage? How long was your session and how much did you pay? Did she gave some service that you've not talked about (CIM, rimming, DATY)? Did she speak English well?

I've read your report about Nun in the Bangkok escort's Thread, would you say she is better looking than Nun?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DanKey;2005728]Went twice to Huai Kwang and did the circuit of cheaper soapies: Merci, Hi Class, Long Beach, Alaina. Some had only 4 girls. All the girls seemed 30 plus. Settled for one at Hi Class out of desperation and instantly had buyer's remorse.

That soapie thing with sweet 18 to 25 year olds seems a thing of the past. (Where are they? Hopefully at uni making something of their lives) LOS is definitely declining as a destination. Too many punters willing to pay too much for substandard service.

Time to punt elsewhere![/QUOTE]Went to emanuelle yesterday around 5 pm and banged one 20 something hottie. Maybe wrong time, wrong place for you.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2005949]Went to emanuelle yesterday around 5 pm and banged one 20 something hottie. Maybe wrong time, wrong place for you.[/QUOTE]Emanuelle is the only place doing well in that area right now. A year ago they were doing so-so.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2005845]Hi Sum12,

Is she the same girl as the girl named Ann on their website?

[URL]http://nyan2massage.net[/URL]

Side she give a nuru massage or oil massage? How long was your session and how much did you pay? Did she gave some service that you've not talked about (CIM, rimming, DATY)? Did she speak English well?

I've read your report about Nun in the Bangkok escort's Thread, would you say she is better looking than Nun?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is the same girl but of course the pics are airbrushed but she is still gorgeous. She asked which massage I wanted and I opted for the nuru which she did extremely well. But though the services you mentioned was quoted in the book they place gives you to choose the girls from I did not ask her for them. Let's just say I was happy just getting the DFK (boring me). I'm thinking of going back to her again today. Went there yesterday but she was busy and I took Bee. I might go there today again for Ann.

I booked Bee as Ann was busy. Bee is a 7.5 and I was kind of pleased I selected her but my happiness was short. She gave a so so nuru massage, a CBJ and no DFK. Disappointed with her service.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2005845]Hi Sum12,

Is she the same girl as the girl named Ann on their website?

[URL]http://nyan2massage.net[/URL]

Side she give a nuru massage or oil massage? How long was your session and how much did you pay? Did she gave some service that you've not talked about (CIM, rimming, DATY)? Did she speak English well?

I've read your report about Nun in the Bangkok escort's Thread, would you say she is better looking than Nun?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry I forgot to mention that Ann's English was not so good. I would say they both (Ann & Nun) would be similar in terms of looks.

Thanks to Dwayne and Ralph. Went straight to Emmanuelle at 4. 30 Sat. About 12 in fishbowl, about 3-4 appealing. Waited around as there was so much action: lots of punters and so many girls going in and out. Saw a thin young beauty walk in and tagged her. SM 18.5,300 b! Oh WTF, you only live once. Going into the room, she was as smiley and cute as she seemed: a first year uni student, sweet and seemingly unspoiled by the grind of the industry. Claimed I was her first farang- in retrospect I think that was probably correct. When we shed our stuff things got even better: she was sleek, young and a gorgeous even coffee tone all over. Tiny pert breasts, neat little triangle. First warning signs were when the tummy banana responded in the bath. 'Yai mark!' 'Oi, glua' (very big, I'm scared) Uh oh. I said'Yaa glua. Bao bao- chaa chaa' (don't be frightened- we'll go gentle and slow).

Cuddling and little kisses. She wouldn't allow kisses on face. She didn't know how to put on a condom. (This is not going well, part of me said to self. Shut up and just get it in, I replied) So I slipped it on, and tried to mount, despite her grimaces and 'Jeb jeb' (it hurts! We had heaps of lube. At this point I sneaked in a finger and she was tiny. I could barely get my little pinky in. She suggested wanking me off, but after her ineffectual flailing on the rod earlier, I thought this would be a waste of time. I thought of wanking myself to COT, but then I didn't think I could stand the look of horror on her sweet little face.

So I thought, that's enough humiliation. I got dressed. Waited for her and went downstairs. It reminded me of the worst sessions in Nataree, but jeeez- I've never thrown 5,300 away for blue balls and a quick bath. My bad, I guess, being so attracted to the young and cute.

WIR? Emmanuelle does have the best girls in the area, so yes, but next time I'll let logic assist me to select someone a little older and less expensive!

[QUOTE=DanKey;2006197] First warning signs were when the tummy banana responded in the bath. 'Yai mark!' 'Oi, glua' (very big, I'm scared) Uh oh. [/QUOTE]They say that to everyone, it's all part of the act. You should have nailed that tight little pussy. If it's big enough for a baby's head, it's big enough for your knob. And I'm sure she's had guys come on her tits before. What is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=DanKey;2006197]Thanks to Dwayne and Ralph. Went straight to Emmanuelle at 4. 30 Sat. About 12 in fishbowl, about 3-4 appealing. Waited around as there was so much action: lots of punters and so many girls going in and out. Saw a thin young beauty walk in and tagged her. SM 18.5,300 b! Oh WTF, you only live once. Going into the room, she was as smiley and cute as she seemed: a first year uni student, sweet and seemingly unspoiled by the grind of the industry. Claimed I was her first farang- in retrospect I think that was probably correct. When we shed our stuff things got even better: she was sleek, young and a gorgeous even coffee tone all over. Tiny pert breasts, neat little triangle. First warning signs were when the tummy banana responded in the bath. 'Yai mark!' 'Oi, glua' (very big, I'm scared) Uh oh. I said'Yaa glua. Bao bao- chaa chaa' (don't be frightened- we'll go gentle and slow).

Cuddling and little kisses. She wouldn't allow kisses on face. She didn't know how to put on a condom. (This is not going well, part of me said to self. Shut up and just get it in, I replied) So I slipped it on, and tried to mount, despite her grimaces and 'Jeb jeb' (it hurts! We had heaps of lube. At this point I sneaked in a finger and she was tiny. I could barely get my little pinky in. She suggested wanking me off, but after her ineffectual flailing on the rod earlier, I thought this would be a waste of time. I thought of wanking myself to COT, but then I didn't think I could stand the look of horror on her sweet little face.

So I thought, that's enough humiliation. I got dressed. Waited for her and went downstairs. It reminded me of the worst sessions in Nataree, but jeeez- I've never thrown 5,300 away for blue balls and a quick bath. My bad, I guess, being so attracted to the young and cute.

WIR? Emmanuelle does have the best girls in the area, so yes, but next time I'll let logic assist me to select someone a little older and less expensive![/QUOTE]Once a girl becomes dick scared, she can change easily from being a good fuck to being a very bad one. Seen it too many times.

These types of problems are very common in the modern day, Dan. I find a high percentage of girls in Soapies, used to doing East Asians are dick scared, and true that some are quite tight and small in length. It is possible for the vagina to expand a lot if taken very gently and slowly. Bruised uterus from big dick pounders is a realistic problem though.

I have had a lot of shitty girls from well reputed Soapies. Yes I have had plenty of crap sessions at Nataree as well. Met very few good ones.

I have even had girls that seemed to be fine when I first went with them, and then after several sessions, they got more and more dick scared than what they used to be. Can be that uterus position is not suited to certain fucking positions, and they only want to fuck very briefly. A lot of girls are wary of doggy position. Had to give up some of my Soapy favorite girls, including Jip at La Belle.

It is a bit down to luck to try to find some girls that really like dick. Some girls there will be okay, but which ones? Might be better to use establishments where a high percentage of customers are Farangs and seek out girls that prefer Farangs. Bars are easier for me to help find the girls that really like Farangs, but have a good body and sufficiently pretty.

Just find some girls that really love big dick, and stick to them. I do know girls that say they can't get the feeling from small dick, rather than being so scared. You just have to accept that not every girl will be sexually compatible with you and that Asian customer dominated Soapies are not the best hunting ground.

I hate to say this, but while many guys want girls with no baby, statistically, the mothers are far less dick scared on average, so if you can get mothers with very little baby damage, that can be a good bet. Most of my favourite non dick scared girls are mothers. I have not had a GF that was not a mother for many years. Sometimes the non mothers really like big dick, but relatively few. My current long term GF is a mother but has almost nothing in the way of baby stretch marks and pussy still feels great for nice grip along the entire length, so mothers are not necessarily damaged. I could not even notice tit sag when I met her.

[QUOTE=DanKey;2006197]Snip. Cuddling and little kisses. She wouldn't allow kisses on face. She didn't know how to put on a condom. (This is not going well, part of me said to self. Shut up and just get it in, I replied) So I slipped it on, and tried to mount, despite her grimaces and 'Jeb jeb' (it hurts! We had heaps of lube. At this point I sneaked in a finger and she was tiny. I could barely get my little pinky in. She suggested wanking me off, but after her ineffectual flailing on the rod earlier, I thought this would be a waste of time. I thought of wanking myself to COT, but then I didn't think I could stand the look of horror on her sweet little face.[/QUOTE]She is obviously able to be fucked by customers (even if only by supposedly small-dick Asians) so if you could barely stick a pinky in there, she wasn't ready for sex. It seems you didn't even try to warm her up so that her pussy would open up as you did not mention massaging her (tits, ass, pussy, etc.) and DATY. Also, why no BJ? Did she not want to do it? Did you talk to her about your expectations prior to agreeing to go with her? It's always a mistake to choose some one just on looks without having a chat first.

[QUOTE=*****man;2006207]They say that to everyone, it's all part of the act. You should have nailed that tight little pussy. If it's big enough for a baby's head, it's big enough for your knob. And I'm sure she's had guys come on her tits before. What is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]While I agree with you, I had a kind of same experience a year ago in an oily that catters mostly to Japanese. At that time I 'd been lucky by choosing some young girls that was in the business for a few weeks only and once I saw pictures of that one I booked her for the next day. In fact it was her first day and she had just one customer before me (booked at 10.30 AM). Do you believe me if I tell you that she was eighteen and never had a BF before coming to work in an oily. She had only one fuck once when she was in school and the fuck just before my session with her. So basically she was a virgin when she started to work. Fortunately for her, the guy before was a very quick finisher and she thought that every guys were like that. I could not even put my dick in her, she was so scared and contracted that I could only enter her a little bit (and I have an average size). She kept asking me if I cum, but I could not even thrust to cum. I think I had just a little bit of my dick in her for about 2 minutes and she was so annoying that I stopped. Did not complain downstairs as was just her first day so I blamed it on myself and tried to chose them more carefully later. It was just to say that some of these girls don't know where they put their feet and are just attracted by the easy money without thinking of what they have to do for it. After a few weeks she was not there anymore, I guess to many complaints by customers.

[QUOTE=Sum12;2006114]I would say they both (Ann & Nun) would be similar in terms of looks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, I like the pictures of Nun, and after reading your two posts I might give Ann a try next time I'll be in BKK if she's good looking. Please share your other experiences with her to know if she is a consistent provider.

And thanks for reporting about oilies and girls that are not much talked about here.

[QUOTE=DanKey;2006197]Thanks to Dwayne and Ralph. Went straight to Emmanuelle at 4. 30 Sat. About 12 in fishbowl, about 3-4 appealing. Waited around as there was so much action: lots of punters and so many girls going in and out. Saw a thin young beauty walk in and tagged her. SM 18.5,300 b! Oh WTF, you only live once. Going into the room, she was as smiley and cute as she seemed: a first year uni student, sweet and seemingly unspoiled by the grind of the industry. Claimed I was her first farang- in retrospect I think that was probably correct. When we shed our stuff things got even better: she was sleek, young and a gorgeous even coffee tone all over. Tiny pert breasts, neat little triangle. First warning signs were when the tummy banana responded in the bath. 'Yai mark!' 'Oi, glua' (very big, I'm scared) Uh oh. I said'Yaa glua. Bao bao- chaa chaa' (don't be frightened- we'll go gentle and slow).

Cuddling and little kisses. She wouldn't allow kisses on face. She didn't know how to put on a condom. (This is not going well, part of me said to self. Shut up and just get it in, I replied) So I slipped it on, and tried to mount, despite her grimaces and 'Jeb jeb' (it hurts! We had heaps of lube. At this point I sneaked in a finger and she was tiny. I could barely get my little pinky in. She suggested wanking me off, but after her ineffectual flailing on the rod earlier, I thought this would be a waste of time. I thought of wanking myself to COT, but then I didn't think I could stand the look of horror on her sweet little face.

So I thought, that's enough humiliation. I got dressed. Waited for her and went downstairs. It reminded me of the worst sessions in Nataree, but jeeez- I've never thrown 5,300 away for blue balls and a quick bath. My bad, I guess, being so attracted to the young and cute.

WIR? Emmanuelle does have the best girls in the area, so yes, but next time I'll let logic assist me to select someone a little older and less expensive![/QUOTE]Sorry you didn't had good experience. Some girls (SM and above) are spoiled a bit. However, it takes good amount of foreplay, little bit of buttering and they are game for everything.

P.S. : SM54 ex-rainbow gogo girl ain't really dick scared but she might pretend to be one due to peer pressure LOL.

Just wrapped up a quick tour of Hong Kong (plus day in Macau) and BKK at Patts. Figured to start with a quick review of Addict, which was near my hotel. I had not exactly planned to expend what limited time I had in Bangkok there, but after making a couple of passes decided one of the several massages shops on that soi might fit the bill. (And BTW, the Japanese restaurant on the corner leading in is cheap, and tasty; spent about $7 US on a bowl of ramen, gyoza and a bottled water, besides being able to check out the girls in an adjacent shop through the slats in the blind. A can't-lose proposition.) Addict is near the end of the L, and while I had figured to home in on the girl sitting outside on the shop just next to Addict, the silhoutte of a dozen and a half hoo-ahs in the window of Addict beckoned, about 7 pm On a Wednesday night. Upon entering, I discovered that a lineup was in progress. A toothsome, overeager lass, who would later make my acquaintance as Lala, 32 years old, was my choice. A small, but solid girl, who fulfilled her duties with aplomb and enthusiasm. All the proper positions, with completion to CIM. Nice. With a few minutes to spare in the 90-minute schedule, Lala whipped out her phone and told of her entrepreneurial dreams of a coffee shop in Isaan, wherein she would be beating Starbucks on price point. Her sing-songy third person "Lala want x" "Lala do y" cracked me up. On the way out I donated a tip, in advance, for a cup or two of coffee. Considering the business skills of these girls, they will no doubt exhaust their massage parlor fortunes in no time and be back on the job on their backs in little time. God bless the little angels.

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2006520] Her sing-songy third person "Lala want x" "Lala do y" cracked me up. [/QUOTE]Its is not that uncommon and even considered quite friendly or endearing for some Thai people to use their own name instead of a pronoun, but of course in the Thai language. They might also use you nickname in place of the pronoun "you". I sometimes do similar in Thai language. Yes it sounds real funny when used in English, but at least it is not confusing.

My GF uses strange pronouns to refer to herself that initially confused me a lot. After a long time I started to get used it. If she used her own name, it would be much easier.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2006255]She is obviously able to be fucked by customers (even if only by supposedly small-dick Asians) so if you could barely stick a pinky in there, she wasn't ready for sex. It seems you didn't even try to warm her up so that her pussy would open up as you did not mention massaging her (tits, ass, pussy, etc.) and DATY. Also, why no BJ? Did she not want to do it? Did you talk to her about your expectations prior to agreeing to go with her? It's always a mistake to choose some one just on looks without having a chat first.[/QUOTE]Once a girl is truly dick scared, she will tense up rather than relax, and trying to get her aroused will have minimal usefulness. So getting the girl to relax is paramount, arousal can come after that. Even if the girl had an orgasm from DATY already, she may still tense up from being dick scared. Had that happen plenty of times.

I find it is necessary with some girls, to firstly use plenty of lube for ease of entry, and also to insert dick very slowly and only a short way. Start the movement very softly without full penetration for a time, and check that she is feeling okay With it. The vagina will gradually stretch in length during the sex if all is going well. So gradually insert a bit more, as long as she is still into it, and not tensing up badly. A vagina may start at only 4+ inches in length (girl dependent) but can stretch to much longer.

As the uterus is typically located only 3 to 4 inches in (easily reachable by a finger), care is needed not to crash the head of the dick into the uterus mound with any force, as this can hurt and cause bruising. Some girls can be bruised already before we even start and so very tender and sensitive.

Once girls have tensed up the legs and vagina badly, I am generally not able to fuck them. I call this the "seized up legs" syndrome, or perhaps "starfish" is also apt due to the stiffness of the girls legs. Can be due to the girl already having some pussy problems prior to the session.

Some girls claim I have done damage to them even though I am a relatively gentle fucker. So avoiding it seems to not be easy. It always means a bruised or inflamed uterus. Others have been sore already from other customers.

I recall one MP girl riding me very forcefully in cowgirl position, and then blood streaming out, bright red, and she indicated was not her period. So she did the damage to herself by going too hard and crashing her uterus too much. I had just lain there, doing nothing much except getting laid.

Working girls are often very wary about getting pussy damage putting them out of work for significant days. I found one girl quite scared after weeks off recovering from pussy damage. So the session was weak, where normally she had been good (relaxed).

Girls suffering pussy damage is all too common. Useless for some guys to pretend it is a myth.

If you have read my post before with Ann then just to let you know I visited her again. Having went there earlier when she was busy I had booked Bee (see my post) and I desperately needed another session with Ann.

Booked her, paid 2200 and waited for her. When she come down I was happy to see her and she alike. Greeting me with a smile she lead me to the room. She looked gorgeous and even better than before so I give her a 9 now.

The session was similar to my previous post but the service and intimacy was even better. Best session in a massage parlour I have every had. For those of you into PSE sorry may not be your thing but for those into GFE this was IT. Lots of DFK, great and long massage, good but short sweet conversation and great session with BBBJ and lots of DFK. I would definitely return for another session with her before leaving Thailand in a few more days.

[QUOTE=*****man;2006207]They say that to everyone, it's all part of the act. You should have nailed that tight little pussy. If it's big enough for a baby's head, it's big enough for your knob. And I'm sure she's had guys come on her tits before. What is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]What is wrong with me? I don't only find [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] morally repugnant, I don't enjoy it.

As l said, this petal couldn't even put on a condom. I tried DATY, she said "oi, mai dai". L concur with Syz, sometimes one is unlucky enough to find an attractive girl so inexperienced and dick scared that it's a waste of time to continue.

Hello lovely people,

I stayed in Bangkok for 5 days and now is my last day here on Bangkok, I tried oily massage yesterday at tulip and it was an outstanding experience. Now, I'm curious to try Emanuelle since it's a good place according this forum, but after googling for a while I didn't find an exact price in emanuelle because I have a budget limit for soapy (for about 3-4 k). So, anyone can give information about current emanuele prices? Or maybe different place that have B2B massage and a pretty white skinned thai girl or like Chinese.

Thank you lovely people.

Regards.

[QUOTE=DanKey;2006826]What is wrong with me? I don't only find ... morally repugnant, I don't enjoy it.

[/QUOTE]You seem to be extremely confused. The fact that she chooses to work in a brothel, accepts you as a customer, spreads her legs and allows you try and penetrate her shows that she was consenting, unless you're not telling us something.

If the girl's attitude was a boner-killer then say so, but don't throw the word that rhymes with grape around.

Went to Ez2 massage in soi 24/1. The lady handed me a book and pointed only 4 of them available. I choose one and she asked me to wait while she got on the phone to call her. Inside I could hear what clearly sounded like transversites and I was horrified thinking this was a ts massage place. Luckily she said the lady would take 5 min so I politely declined and went out. I then was in two minds: Addict or Snow White. Having been to addict before I knew they had some beauties there but the service I received a year ago was horrible and they certainly prefer Japanese. So off I went to Snow White.

There were around 7 ladies and all 5 and below. But I still chose the best among them Candy and paid the 1900 at the counter. As we got inside the room she started to take my clothes off and said baby I take care of it and started to suck me off. That was one good BBBJ. She then went out to get her stuffs, returned and took me to the shower where she sucked me off again. To cut it short good BBBJ, DFK and for once the looks did not matter. The session was a great PSE experience. Will I return: no. Looks are important to me.

Finally I would appreciate if anyone tells me of at least two massage places which I should visit and where the ladies are lookers.

[QUOTE=Sum12;2006966]Finally I would appreciate if anyone tells me of at least two massage places which I should visit and where the ladies are lookers.[/QUOTE]I know Fongbeer at Bangkok Pretty Massage right down bts Thonglor that is good looking. I don't know if she is good looking enough for you but you should definitely get what you like with her (DFK, BBBJ and even 2 shots if you take 90 min or 2 hours). I think she's got another hair style nowadays so her looks might be a little bit different but the pictures are quite accurate. She is very nice, I don't remember about the size of her tits but she had a good ass and is pretty tall for a Thai girl. No baby damage and a honey toned skin. One or two small tattoos also. The only annoying thing that I remember about her (or funny thing maybe) is that her moaning are very particular: this is a typical Japanese style moaning (look at a Japanese porn if you don't know what I mean). One day I was in a room with another girl and I could hear her being banged hard by her customer, I knew it was her because she is the only one to moan like this in that place.

If you chose to meet her, book her by phone because she is busy and you will never find her available just by checking the place. And as always the report is welcomed also.

[URL]http://bangkokprettymassage.com/gals/fongbeer/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sum12;2006966]Went to Ez2 massage in soi 24/1. The lady handed me a book and pointed only 4 of them available. I choose one and she asked me to wait while she got on the phone to call her. Inside I could hear what clearly sounded like transversites and I was horrified thinking this was a ts massage place. Luckily she said the lady would take 5 min so I politely declined and went out. I then was in two minds: Addict or Snow White. Having been to addict before I knew they had some beauties there but the service I received a year ago was horrible and they certainly prefer Japanese. So off I went to Snow White.

There were around 7 ladies and all 5 and below. But I still chose the best among them Candy and paid the 1900 at the counter. As we got inside the room she started to take my clothes off and said baby I take care of it and started to suck me off. That was one good BBBJ. She then went out to get her stuffs, returned and took me to the shower where she sucked me off again. To cut it short good BBBJ, DFK and for once the looks did not matter. The session was a great PSE experience. Will I return: no. Looks are important to me.

Finally I would appreciate if anyone tells me of at least two massage places which I should visit and where the ladies are lookers.[/QUOTE]If look is important to you, then go to the lord, there definitely has more beautis than the SM and addict, but you need to spend 2 to 3 times the amount you have spend.

Jb.

[QUOTE=Sum12;2006662]If you have read my post before with Ann then just to let you know I visited her again. Having went there earlier when she was busy I had booked Bee (see my post) and I desperately needed another session with Ann.

Booked her, paid 2200 and waited for her. When she come down I was happy to see her and she alike. Greeting me with a smile she lead me to the room. She looked gorgeous and even better than before so I give her a 9 now.

The session was similar to my previous post but the service and intimacy was even better. Best session in a massage parlour I have every had. For those of you into PSE sorry may not be your thing but for those into GFE this was IT. Lots of DFK, great and long massage, good but short sweet conversation and great session with BBBJ and lots of DFK. I would definitely return for another session with her before leaving Thailand in a few more days.[/QUOTE]My thanks for the heads up on Ann. I found her to be an ultra-friendly sweet laid back accommodating companion for the hour I spend with her. I feel her stints in Korea have honed her routine to being submissively responsive to customer's wishes in the manner enjoyed by Koreans and Japanese. Apart from A+ which I didn't ask for and rarely bother with whatever else I wanted was willingly provided. She has a sweet smile, cute looks, great boobs and while her body is beginning to put a little weight all in all she is as good as you find on a visit to an oilie.

Thanks again.

I've been to Club 102 quite a bit lately, so I told myself I would go to Addict instead this time for a change. My feet decided otherwise. It may be the part of my brain that associates Club 102 with a delightful experience that took over.

Walked in, 15+ girls, many of them bangable, some of them really good looking. There was a punter hesitating, but quite frankly I didn't care, because even if he picked the most beautiful girl in the line-up before me, there were plenty of replacements on hand. Louis did his usual party trick of introducing each girl by name. I have no idea how he does it, because after a while they all look the same. But 2 girls stood out. One who was smiling at me submissively and repeatedly Japanese-style. And a tall, gorgeous Chinese-looking girl who was staring at me fixedly with ice-queen eyes, name Gina I think. I picked the first one, named Coco. She looked like she was pretty eager to take my shlong between her legs, and I'll go with that any time.

Inside, it was pretty much as planned. Lots of intimacy and excitement from the get-go. After the shower, I laid on my stomach, and she asked what kind of massage I want while caressing my balls. I'm pretty thick, but I took the hint and flipped over. She seemed taken aback, as she started with a leg massage, but then after looking at my erect manhood for 5 minutes she just went for it and gave me the full works.

One thing weird, she put lube on my cock before the BBBJ. Why anybody would want to ingest lube is beyond me.

Anyway, we fucked in 5 positions. Her best position is missionary with her legs closed between mine. Friction is awesome. So I finished like that. She got a good orgasm out of me by faking hers convincingly. All in all, a very intimate and satisfying fuck.

Afterwards she gave me a "regular" massage. She is surprisingly good at it, unlike 90% of oily MP girls.

Would I recommend? Yes. Would I repeat? No, the line-up at Club 102 is just too attractive. As I walked out, I bumped into a real hottie called A. J. Who was on her way to get banged by some old fat guy carrying his belongings in a supermarket plastic bag (I kid you not)! A few more girls caught my eye in the lounge as I walked out. "Pretty-girl massage" indeed.

[QUOTE=Sum12;2006966]Finally I would appreciate if anyone tells me of at least two massage places which I should visit and where the ladies are lookers.[/QUOTE]That's an easy one: Club 102 and Addict, in that order. And they're even side-by-side for your convenience!

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2007264]That's an easy one: Club 102 and Addict, in that order. And they're even side-by-side for your convenience![/QUOTE]Must add B&B Entertainment Massage, nearby on Soi 24/1, to that short list. Had the highest percentage of hot slender babes that I saw. Ducked into Addict twice recently to view the merchandise, once each at 1 pm and 6 pm. Too much make-up and the flight attendant uniforms hide the true nature of their bodies, IMO. The ladies at B&B were wearing high heals, skimpy hot pants and matching tops, looked like go go girls, had the Addict women beat.

P.S. Dolly, the gal with the amazing breasts that I reviewed recently, notified me she now works at Paradise Massage, both her and roommate Candy made the switch from Kiss / Passion. They like to do 4 hands as a team.

I just saw the website for 101 Premier Massage at Sukhumvit Soi 26, Bangkok.

So many girls pictured on the site along with a lot more who cannot show their picture.

I was intrigued that the older women were all labelled as aged 27; not one was 28 or older.

I will betcha that the age labels are rough guides only. Quite a line-up.

Was getting close to midnight, some well know MPs like Cherrie closed already so decided to do it on site. Allstars usually has one or two good looking girls. Yuki was sitting outside so decided to try her out for a quick 45 min session for 1800 be. She is quite pretty, tall and has nice skin with small boobs close to B cup. Was very lively during session, lots of DFK, mutual shower and pleasure. Played quite a bit with her, session was very smooth. She was able to take a brief pounding w / o any problems and is still quite tight. Overall I will certainly recommend her but most won't repeat because there are too many others left to try!

[QUOTE=AquaDreams;2007339]Must add B&B Entertainment Massage, nearby on Soi 24/1, to that short list. Had the highest percentage of hot slender babes that I saw. Ducked into Addict twice recently to view the merchandise, once each at 1 pm and 6 pm. Too much make-up and the flight attendant uniforms hide the true nature of their bodies, IMO. The ladies at B&B were wearing high heals, skimpy hot pants and matching tops, looked like go go girls, had the Addict women beat.[/QUOTE]I decided to make my own opinion. The line-up at be&be Entertainment was pretty substantial, say 12 to 15 girls. Some of them were hot. But they were wearing t-shirts, so there was no way to tell anything about their bodies. Let's say, on that basis, it's roughly in the same zone as Addict.

I picked Pim, number B29, from Udon Thani. She looks pretty much like her picture on the website, except her skin is darker in reality. It was 2300 Baht for 1 hour in bathtub room, exactly the same price as Addict. This is where the similarities end.

The quality of the room was vastly inferior to an Addict bathtub room. The towels were musty, meaning that they had not been air-dried properly, which is never the case at Addict. Worst thing was the girl's performance.

It started when she sneezed three times and said "maybe I am sick". Just about the least sexy words that can be pronounced. The BBBJ was actually good. She got me rock-hard. But then she fumbled forever to find a condom, while chattering away about nonsense, and I lost my concentration. I mean, these girls are supposed to be professionals. Putting a condom on the guy is not a sexy phase, so haven't they figured out a way to do it without killing the groove?

Or at least re-ignite the proceedings after the condom is on? If she can get me super hard once, maybe you'd think she could do it again? Well no. Certainly saying "he sleep" 10 times does not help. In the end she took off the condom, gave me a good HJ, and made me cum hard with her hand. I've yet to understand why a girl who's so good at BBBJ and HJ can't get me hard enough to fuck her.

Anyway, service quality was so subpar that this ranks in the bottom 10% of all my fucks ever, and I'm even including those where I did not pay. Certainly in all my times at Addict it's never been so bad. 2300 Baht for a good BBBJ and a good HJ is woefully expensive. At the end she felt so shitty that she even said "I'.

M sorry". Not a well-managed place: must avoid.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2007603]
Anyway, service quality was so subpar that this ranks in the bottom 10% of all my fucks ever, and I'm even including those where I did not pay. Certainly in all my times at Addict it's never been so bad. 2300 Baht for a good BBBJ and a good HJ is woefully expensive. At the end she felt so shitty that she even said "I'm sorry". Not a well-managed place: must avoid.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your bad experience. This is why I'm really reluctant to give new oilies a go unless there's a girl there who has received good reviews. My first experience was at Angel Massage and it was so poor I didn't go to an oily again for years. My experience at Addict was the same, a girl who clearly couldn't care less about providing good service. Maybe AquaDreams's newbie goggles are giving him an unrealistic perspective. From the website the girls look a fairly average bunch.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2007603] Not a well-managed place: must avoid.[/QUOTE]I've been there twice in 2 different trips. The first girl was small, cute face and a nice and big ass and was supposedly a university student that comes there on week ends. Service was as one would receive from a part time worker.

The second time was last October around 7 pm and the girl was tall and not bad looking. Supposedly an office worker in Silom in the day and would come there after her day shift. Service was same as the first one. Nothing special, BBBJ, DFK with fuck service.

At least I could get two shots out of both in a 90 minutes session and they were nice girls. The line up was big on both occasions, but girls were pretty average and it's not very easy to spot quickly the best looking ones. I agree that the rooms are not in good condition, but at least the ones I used were not very small as the one I used in Cherry or some other places.

I would not say it's a place to avoid, it all depends on the girl you meet. Girls change shops often, I once saw a former Addict girl in their line-up, some girls from Boss massage went to work in Otemachi shop some from Yoremichi went in Bamboo.

I would rather say that it's a hit and miss place (like almost every places with a big line up) with a lot of turn-over in the staff. In my opinion, apart from the condition of the rooms, I don't think that Addict is better but be&be is more pricey. I like to take the 2 hours option when I get a massage but here I did not take it (I think it was around 2900 or may be they don't even offer 2 hours session).

Mitu.

I was in Bangkok on 1st March and decided to try Mitu for Wet Massage. I made the booking for about an hour ahead, paid the deposit, and paid the balance of the 3700 bht total later, for 75 minutes. The shop appears to have moved the alley across the road, as shown on the Mitu web site.

I was shown pictures on a tablet of what to expect, and Hana was recommended. The premises appeared to be new and fresh. We climbed the stairs to the top level. Nice room with a separate section where the wet action took place both in the shower and on the mattress. A lot of close personal care and attention was given. A lot of hand work was involved. At one point I thought the hand work was getting to much and I thought it was time for the main action, so I asked for a condom. This was promptly fetched and it was said that there was only one. It looks as if you have to use this one to best effect, and I did. The girl was good looking, but not stunning, slim and well proportioned.

Despite thinking that I could get a massage for less, I enjoyed this experience and would repeat.

Club102.

I was in Bangkok on 4th March and decided to try a massage place around Sukhumvit 24 Alley or Soi 26. As I scouted around two places stood out for the outward welcome wailing. They were Club102 and Addict, which were adjacent to each other in the alley off Sukhumvit 24 Alley, and both of which appeared to offer an attractive choice. I chose Club102. I liked the premises which appeared as shown on the web site. I e-mailed the Club to get the prices. A good line up was shown to me, from which I could have chosen several good looking girls. The shower room cost 2790 for the 90 minutes. I made my choice and I asked the girls name but I could not understand the reply, and she could not spell it for me. She gave me an attentive service in the room, in the shower and on the bed. After the deed she finished with a nice back massage. All in all a good session, much enjoyed. I would repeat here, but would book for 60 minutes, this would be enough.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2007551]Was getting close to midnight, some well know MPs like Cherrie closed already so decided to do it on site. Allstars usually has one or two good looking girls. Yuki was sitting outside so decided to try her out for a quick 45 min session for 1800 be. She is quite pretty, tall and has nice skin with small boobs close to B cup. Was very lively during session, lots of DFK, mutual shower and pleasure. Played quite a bit with her, session was very smooth. She was able to take a brief pounding w / o any problems and is still quite tight. Overall I will certainly recommend her but most won't repeat because there are too many others left to try![/QUOTE]Been there once around 5 pm a Saturday. Seen Anna (N°38 on there site) sitting outside, and she had an inviting smile when I past in front of the shop. I decided to have a look inside, out of only four girls I hesitated between Anna and Baby (and°8), and finally was very attracted by the roundish ass of Anna so I took her for 1 hour. She is small and cute and her body looked good with a very good firm and round ass. She also was supposedly a student that comes there only on week ends (but I don't think it's true afterwards) and the service was pretty standard for that kind of place (BBBJ and FS, no DFK but I did not try to get it).

What is annoying in this place is the extra charge for what they call an extra service (1 K for CIM or COB or A+), I think they are even going to try to charge us when we will ask for a BBBJ in some times. The room was not in very good condition but they had some nice music, never seen this anywhere else in Thailand. I was told that and°8 was very rarely chosen by westerners, I don't see why as she was looking good in the line up. It's true that I've seen many cuties sitting in front of this shop on many occasions, but after I knew it was only a one shot place, I did not try my luck with them.

The girl that you've chosen look not bad also according to her pictures.

I see that they offered a 45 min session for 1800 b, that might be the good choice for a quick fuck in that place as I doubt many girls there would offer two shots anyway.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2007551]Yuki was sitting outside so decided to try her out for a quick 45 min session for 1800 be. She is quite pretty, tall and has nice skin with small boobs close to B cup. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2007709]Seen Anna (N38 on there site) sitting outside, and she had an inviting smile when I past in front of the shop. I decided to have a look inside, out of only four girls I hesitated between Anna and Baby (and8), and finally was very attracted by the roundish ass of Anna so I took her for 1 hour. She is small and cute and her body looked good with a very good firm and round ass.[/QUOTE]Any baby damage on these girls? I like Jin because she's baby-free with a nice tight body but most of the other girls who work there have babies.

I prefer incalls so invited New from Bangkok. She is sure a little fire cracker full of zest, humor and a dedire to excel. Was at ease from right from start and provided very convincing GFE session. Lot of kissing, cuddling, playing, mutual shower, massage, hardcore pounding. Incredibly solid menu. She is new to the game but is already on her way to become of the best Isaan lass one can lay his paws on. Speaks decent conversational English, is more attractive than her pics on web, has decent suckable natural tetas. Her bubbly personality is a pretty good ROI in my opinion.

[QUOTE=*****man;2007823]Any baby damage on these girls?[/QUOTE]No baby damage for Anna, but there was a little bit fat on the stomach though.

[QUOTE=*****man;2007823]Any baby damage on these girls? I like Jin because she's baby-free with a nice tight body but most of the other girls who work there have babies.[/QUOTE]Yuki told me she does have baby (ies) buy no damage or looseness. Still good ROI.

I apologies guys again posting about Nyan Nyan but before that the day earlier I went to Addict.

Around 5 pm there were only around 12 girls and I guess the rest was busy. The line up wasn't that great but I chose one petite lady. Can't remember the name. But the service was so so. CBJ, no DFK just pecks in the neck. But the lady was trying her best to have a decent conversation. At first I thought good sign but by the end it was unfortunately. No tip for her. But when I headed out there were a few customers and this time (around 6) the entire room was packed with gorgeous beauties. So I guess go past 5 pm. I reckon around 5:30-6 pm.

The next day tried booking Meena (rated 5) via smooci from met Bangkok escorts who seemed lovely. Got the usual call from the agency booking confirmed but I got a call 10 minutes later saying she was on her periods so had to cancel. Disappointed I headed to Nyan Nyan hoping for a 2 hour session with Ann.

She was on a day off. My luck was down the drain. I should I figured it out and not booked anyone else there as my experience there with another lady Bee (see my previous post) was bad. But the little brother would not shut up so booked an hour with Fon.

When she arrived downstairs to take me to the room I was even more disappointed. She was a 3 at best but having already paid (that's the system there) I went ahead. She had lovely tits though. Quick shower followed by Niti massage, like and quick BBBJ followed. Luckily the light was very dim and quickly capped, some DFK (the only luck was the lights were dim so I could not see so clearly) and I quickly exploded and left.

My suggestion is if you go to Nyan Nyan go there only for Ann. So not being fully satisfied I decided I needed to go to a go go the same night. I will post about it in the Bangkok section.

[QUOTE=Sum12;2008048]I apologies guys again posting about Nyan Nyan but before that the day earlier I went to Addict.

When she arrived downstairs to take me to the room I was even more disappointed. She was a 3 at best but having already paid (that's the system there) I went ahead.[/QUOTE]You can ask to see the girl for real before choosing, and if she's not to your liking you can ask to see another or tell them that you're not interested and go. The next day you can still come back in the same shop, they will not be angry at you.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2007824]I prefer incalls so invited New from Bangkok. She is sure a little fire cracker full of zest, humor and a dedire to excel. Was at ease from right from start and provided very convincing GFE session. Lot of kissing, cuddling, playing, mutual shower, massage, hardcore pounding. Incredibly solid menu. She is new to the game but is already on her way to become of the best Isaan lass one can lay his paws on. Speaks decent conversational English, is more attractive than her pics on web, has decent suckable natural tetas. Her bubbly personality is a pretty good ROI in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Any baby damage on the body?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2008148]Any baby damage on the body?[/QUOTE]No, not at all as far as I remember. It was one of the great sessions I have had this time.

Hi guys,

Landing at BKK shortly and would like to get the best massage and fuck possible. Only there for a night. Would like to go for CIM, a+, and multiple. Shots along with massage. Something around 120 minutes session. Please. Suggest place along with rates.

Only know of Mitu. That it provides good service. But no anal.

Looking forward for your help guys.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2007627]I would not say it's a place to avoid, it all depends on the girl you meet. Girls change shops often, I once saw a former Addict girl in their line-up, some girls from Boss massage went to work in Otemachi shop some from Yoremichi went in Bamboo.

I would rather say that it's a hit and miss place (like almost every places with a big line up) with a lot of turn-over in the staff. In my opinion, apart from the condition of the rooms, I don't think that Addict is better but be&be is more pricey. I like to take the 2 hours option when I get a massage but here I did not take it (I think it was around 2900 or may be they don't even offer 2 hours session).[/QUOTE]I'm willing to go with your reclassification of be&be Entertainment Massage from "a place to avoid" to "a hit and miss place". I just don't think the mamasan is as hands-on, persuasive or motivated as some of the other places with big line-ups, so the girls take advantage when they feel like it. There's a lot of initial training and performance monitoring that goes on behind the scene at the better-run places.

[QUOTE=RRoy28;2008230]Hi guys,

Landing at BKK shortly and would like to get the best massage and fuck possible. Only there for a night. Would like to go for CIM, a+, and multiple. Shots along with massage. Something around 120 minutes session. Please. Suggest place along with rates.

Only know of Mitu. That it provides good service. But no anal.

Looking forward for your help guys.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Snow White [URL]http://snowwhitesoi26.com/rates.html[/URL] Add 1500 Bhat for the girl to the rates.

Also Tulip, Mango, Annies? Bongkot? But have not been to them. Perhaps other members can opine and add info.

[QUOTE=RRoy28;2008230]Hi guys,

Landing at BKK shortly and would like to get the best massage and fuck possible. Only there for a night. Would like to go for CIM, a+, and multiple. Shots along with massage. Something around 120 minutes session. Please. Suggest place along with rates.

Only know of Mitu. That it provides good service. But no anal.

Looking forward for your help guys.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Book a 2 or 3 hour session through [URL]Smooci.com[/URL] then if you still have energy hit Crazy House or Mixx. For crying out loud only 1 night I'd skip sleeping.

I sampled various massage places. Audi from Snow white was the best. Full menu, very keen on providing memorable session.

Also had Candy from SW- poor girl a bottom of the barrel body but otherwise did a fantastic job right from first moment. Full menu, keen to please and excel. One of the best BBBJ skills.

Had a takeout of an Isaan fatty from Sagitha massage. Tried her. Her body is way too chubby. Had trouble finishing. She was very GFE, very sweet. A bit in experienced.

Had several freelancers. Only one was superb. Others I either regretted choosing when they became naked or some were just mediocre. 700-1000st.

The most expensive let down was at club 102. Chose a pretty girl with nice rack for a Thai lady. The rooms and facilities are v nice but 2700 bhats for an hour Come on, I don't need to other end of would for a body that is barely 6.5 in my eyes. Started off very badly when I gently tugged at nipple in shower. She pretty much snapped which was a total mood killer for me. I told her I better save my hour and go elsewhere and font give too hoots go money which has to be paid in advance. Later on she apologized and we certainly had a good give but I will visit this place again. It is miles from service levels of Tulim SW etc.

Mango had just 6/7 girls, none pretty. Had one but the service of good old days is history now. Tulip does not have anyone even easy on the eyes.

Overall in future I will I will order incalls around from well know MPs. Amateur scene is pathetic now. Better to enjoy the city scene rather than waste money forcing yourself to bang a girl whose body is less than 5/10.

Today I've had a very enjoyable session with Cathy at Cherry Massage.

She is very quite and not talkative at all, but she has a very very nice body with no baby damage at all and nice proportions. Her BBBJ was very good and the sex was good too! She is definitely less of PSE but more of a GFE type. Massage was very relaxing and long, also she does a proper body2 body oil.

Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2008445]Snow White [URL]http://snowwhitesoi26.com/rates.html[/URL] Add 1500 Bhat for the girl to the rates.

Also Tulip, Mango, Annies? Bongkot? But have not been to them. Perhaps other members can opine and add info.[/QUOTE]Snow white and Tulip are the best option for CIM, A+ and multishots, IMHO. Bongkot It should be closed, Mango have now 500 baht A+ fee, I don't know if the line up is worth it or not. Long time that I do not go to Annies but I think isn't the best place for A+.

Not sure what fellow mongerer's experience has been but I have noticed a recent hike in the expected tip at the massage places in the alley between soi 11 and 13 Sukhumvit. Not so long ago I would get massage fee plus 1,000 baht for FS = 1,300-1,400. Once or twice I even got the whole thing for 1,000. But now they are asking for 2,000 tip.

When I was asked for 2,000 on the way into one of these joints, I just left and they did not try to call me back even though I walked out slowly. They mentioned that they have to pay for the place. But for me, I can get an hour at Bamboo on just the other side of Sukhumvit on soi 8 for 1,900 all in where the facilities are much better. Proper bed, good quality shower and better privacy.

In the couple of other places I tried, I also experienced the ask starting at 2,000 when I was already into the massage. I eventually coughed 1,500 including massage cost each time.

I got the impression that the word is out that all punters in all these massage places should pay 2,000 and it seems to be coming from the owners (or maybe there is just one owner of all the places who charges rent or one ahem officer who has to be paid). But however it is, the price is a bit steep for what you get.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2008567]I sampled various massage places. Audi from Snow white was the best. Full menu, very keen on providing memorable session.

Also had Candy from SW- poor girl a bottom of the barrel body but otherwise did a fantastic job right from first moment. Full menu, keen to please and excel. One of the best BBBJ skills.

Had a takeout of an Isaan fatty from Sagitha massage. Tried her. Her body is way too chubby. Had trouble finishing. She was very GFE, very sweet. A bit in experienced.

Had several freelancers. Only one was superb. Others I either regretted choosing when they became naked or some were just mediocre. 700-1000st.

The most expensive let down was at club 102. Chose a pretty girl with nice rack for a Thai lady. The rooms and facilities are v nice but 2700 bhats for an hour Come on, I don't need to other end of would for a body that is barely 6.5 in my eyes. Started off very badly when I gently tugged at nipple in shower. She pretty much snapped which was a total mood killer for me. I told her I better save my hour and go elsewhere and font give too hoots go money which has to be paid in advance. Later on she apologized and we certainly had a good give but I will visit this place again. It is miles from service levels of Tulim SW etc.

Mango had just 6/7 girls, none pretty. Had one but the service of good old days is history now. Tulip does not have anyone even easy on the eyes.

Overall in future I will I will order incalls around from well know MPs. Amateur scene is pathetic now. Better to enjoy the city scene rather than waste money forcing yourself to bang a girl whose body is less than 5/10.[/QUOTE]My impression of your post and experiences is you are looking for a bargain in the freelance scene by paying 1000. I would suggest paying more if you want a good freelancer. As for Mango, in my opinion, it has been on the decline for a while. The last good session I had there was well over a year ago. Stopped in many times but nothing caught my eye. Bangkok is changing so branch out and increase your budget if possible. There are some excellent freelancer out there for 2,000 and up.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2008759]My impression of your post and experiences is you are looking for a bargain in the freelance scene by paying 1000. I would suggest paying more if you want a good freelancer. Bangkok is changing so branch out and increase your budget if possible. There are some excellent freelancer out there for 2,000 and up.[/QUOTE]Yes your post nails it very well. I prefer freelancer scene because they were cheap, not hardcore mercenaries and aplenty. But I had tonnes of frustrating problems this time with this strategy. The freelancers appear to be from bottom of barrel when it comes to looks and bodies. During this trip I found that numbers of freelancers in Pattaya and Bangkok were up considerably as compared to last years but quality has hit rock bottom. It is practically impossible for me to sleep with 95% of ladies. Some of the ones that managed to latch on to me one way of the other or some of the ones I picked up turned out to be not my cuppa tea when naked. Plus the terrible amount and energy wasted in scouring beach and Sukhumvit road looking a nice one in 3/4 kms area killed the mood badly many times. Many times I was just walking and walking for hours.

I have promised to myself to change the strategy for next time. For Pattaya I will begin hitting Soi 6, beer bars on BR, massage shops more often and be prepared to pay more. In Bangkok I will focus on MP websites and reviews to short list talent. Instead of $30 cheapies I have told myself to arrive prepared to spend $50 for on premises sex and close to $75 in hotel room. I will really appreciate if you or anyone else can list some places for higher end freelancers as well as any other suggestions to spot better looking girls more quickly.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

CIS ladies were very few, number of Uzbek in front of grace hotel was down as well. Black girls were available aplenty on Sukhumvit road. Most freelancers agreed to 700 plus tip in Bangkok and Pattaya. Few insisted on 1000.

[QUOTE=Dart13;2008610]Today I've had a very enjoyable session with Cathy at Cherry Massage.

She is very quite and not talkative at all, but she has a very very nice body with no baby damage at all and nice proportions. Her BBBJ was very good and the sex was good too! She is definitely less of PSE but more of a GFE type. Massage was very relaxing and long, also she does a proper body2 body oil.

Highly recommended![/QUOTE]Thanks for that. On my list to try, since her pics appeal O.K.

[QUOTE=AquaDreams;2008462]Book a 2 or 3 hour session through [URL]Smooci.com[/URL] then if you still have energy hit Crazy House or Mixx. For crying out loud only 1 night I'd skip sleeping.[/QUOTE]Is Smooci legit? Seems too good to be true! I'm headed to BKK next month and need to line something up.

Thanks.

Went early afternoon. Smaller line-up, maybe only 10-12 girls. But quite a few of them bangable. I picked Gina solely because, last time, on my way out after the deed was done (with some other girl) some Japanese guy had picked her up and I wanted to sample the goods. She looked cute. She is cute.

Her main characteristic is that she's got a bouncy personality. Her second specialty is she gives actually a good legit massage. If you're not into that, when she asks: "you like massage? Answer "yes but not too long". I got a CBJ, but the vibe was good and I wanted to reserve my brownie points for the real fucking, when I knew they would be needed, due to my taking much longer to come than the average Japanese client, so I let her. Odds are good that if you tell her you want BBBJ she will oblige.

So I banged her for all she was worth in 6 positions. She was enthusiastic and compliant. I liked her little body. She gave me a good orgasm in the missionary, which I had reserved for the end. All in all, money well spent and tip well earnt.

Would I recommend? Yes. Would I repeat? Well, I repeated Yeem from Club 102 a little while ago, so Gina would fall into this category. But in a line-up with the same competition, I would always pick the girl I've never tried before.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2009767]Went early afternoon. Smaller line-up, maybe only 10-12 girls. But quite a few of them bangable. I picked Gina solely because, last time, on my way out after the deed was done (with some other girl) some Japanese guy had picked her up and I wanted to sample the goods. She looked cute. She is cute.

Her main characteristic is that she's got a bouncy personality. Her second specialty is she gives actually a good legit massage. If you're not into that, when she asks: "you like massage? Answer "yes but not too long". I got a CBJ, but the vibe was good and I wanted to reserve my brownie points for the real fucking, when I knew they would be needed, due to my taking much longer to come than the average Japanese client, so I let her. Odds are good that if you tell her you want BBBJ she will oblige.
[/QUOTE]I am puzzled since I am still yet to take a covered BJ in rather a long time so that I can't remember the last one. Is this the same with all 102 girls?

QQ: Which soapie / nuru place would you guys recommend for a guy spending one day in BKK? What I'm looking for is the typical good old massage, some lathering oil and a girl doing her deeds well enough to deserve a good tip.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2010236]I am puzzled since I am still yet to take a covered BJ in rather a long time so that I can't remember the last one. Is this the same with all 102 girls?[/QUOTE]No, she's the only one.

For those who like natural, sensual, unjaded girls who provide a GFE, I must recommend Diana at Club 102. She's been working there 3 days. Doesn't look like she's seen miles of cock. She's giving more the vibe that her long-time sponsor is not paying enough and she needs a new iPhone. So she's giving you the experience she's given him. Nice!

Physically, she's about 1 m62, I would guess 48 kilos. If you want the petite Isaan spinner type, look elsewhere. Nice curves where it matters. Natural tits that fill up your mouth and even your hand. From Bangkok, with good English, and the sweetest little-girl voice, but on her it sounds completely unaffected. Very pretty face and smile with almost-Chinese features.

She put on an erotically charged and intimate performance in the shower, and immediately afterwards basically lay there begging to be fucked, so I skipped the perfunctory massage. I didn't DATY, but it looks like she would have enjoyed it, I'm saying for amateurs of this position.

I banged her in 6 positions, then finished in the missionary. That's probably her strongest suit. No hurry from her, and convincing display on enthusiasm all along the way. She doesn't mind the occasional butt-slapping or hair-pulling, but I kept it very short and symbolic, and I recommend you keep it that way too.

The massage afterwards was pretty decent, apparently she's taken some classes.

All in all, another winner for Club 102. Note that she was eyeing me in the line-up like a cat looking at a mouse, so she had preselected me, which is why I went with her, so girls like that, if they don't give you a "green light" vibe, might do better to avoid and fall back on a more experienced and steady provider. Would I repeat? Probably not, the line-up is solid, I'm more likely to sample away. But I do recommend, provided she ticks your boxes.

I see Cherry massage has some new girls on their site now.

Anyone try the newbies?

Ice.

Gina.

Anney.

Candy.

New.

Glad to see BB, Yok, Oil and Cathy still there.

Can wait to get back to BKK and get stuck into Oil and Cathy again.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2010753]I see Cherry massage has some new girls on their site now.

Anyone try the newbies?

Ice.

Gina.

Anney.

Candy.

New.

Glad to see BB, Yok, Oil and Cathy still there.

Can wait to get back to BKK and get stuck into Oil and Cathy again.[/QUOTE]I'd give Miki the A+ treatment if she was baby-free. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=*****man;2010901]I'd give Miki the A+ treatment if she was baby-free. Anyone know?[/QUOTE]She looks suspiciously similar to EQ from Snow White.

[QUOTE=*****man;2010936]She looks suspiciously similar to EQ from Snow White.[/QUOTE]Looks like they add two more girls, Miki and Emmy.

Yeah, mmiki looks like she is worth a spin. Too bad I won't be there till May.

Cherry along with 101 are my two favorite massage places.

In fact has anyone done Yok or Oil recently, are they still good to do it all as of late? Haven't done A+ with oil (did just about everything else) but Yok always willing.

[QUOTE=*****man;2010936]She looks suspiciously similar to EQ from Snow White.[/QUOTE]No, not at all. It's different girl.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2011058]No, not at all. It's different girl.[/QUOTE]I didn't say it was the same girl. Miki is clearly younger and more petite. They could be related but as they're working in a different place it's probably just a coincidence that they have similar faces.

Anyway, are you offering your expertise based on the photos or have you seen them both in real life? I've tried EQ and her body has bad baby damage so definitely won't repeat. If Miki is baby-free though I'll definitely give her a go. Maybe as she's new nobody has tried her yet.

[QUOTE=*****man;2011126]I didn't say it was the same girl. Miki is clearly younger and more petite. They could be related but as they're working in a different place it's probably just a coincidence that they have similar faces.

Anyway, are you offering your expertise based on the photos or have you seen them both in real life? I've tried EQ and her body has bad baby damage so definitely won't repeat. If Miki is baby-free though I'll definitely give her a go. Maybe as she's new nobody has tried her yet.[/QUOTE]Miki looks like a gal that used to work at Snow White, forget the name, but not EQ for sure. If it is the same gal I had to call off the session after she disrobed because the baby damage was so bad. Might not be the same gal, but sure looks like her. I would definitely ask before partaking.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2011153]Miki looks like a gal that used to work at Snow White, forget the name, but not EQ for sure. If it is the same gal I had to call off the session after she disrobed because the baby damage was so bad. Might not be the same gal, but sure looks like her. I would definitely ask before partaking.[/QUOTE]This girl for sure used to work at Snow White. She has just let her natural hair color come back and cut her hair short. Baby damage was severe everywhere but I chose her multiple times because of her killer rear end. I can't comment if her name is EQ or not. The best way to find out would be for someone to call SW and ask if EQ is still there. I will do it later if I have the time.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2011237]This girl for sure used to work at Snow White. She has just let her natural hair color come back and cut her hair short. Baby damage was severe everywhere but I chose her multiple times because of her killer rear end. I can't comment if her name is EQ or not. The best way to find out would be for someone to call SW and ask if EQ is still there. I will do it later if I have the time.[/QUOTE]Miki and EQ look extremely similar on the Cherry and Snow White websites and they appear to be wearing the same watch so it seems they probably are one and the same after all. Looking at her face closely on the Cherry website I'm fairly sure I have had my dick in it. I wouldn't say she has a killer rear end though. Her arsehole is large and wrinkly, completely the opposite of Ninja's tight little pink one, and her buttocks and thighs have stretch marks.

[QUOTE=*****man;2011315]Miki and EQ look extremely similar on the Cherry and Snow White websites and they appear to be wearing the same watch so it seems they probably are one and the same after all. Looking at her face closely on the Cherry website I'm fairly sure I have had my dick in it. I wouldn't say she has a killer rear end though. Her arsehole is large and wrinkly, completely the opposite of Ninja's tight little pink one, and her buttocks and thighs have stretch marks.[/QUOTE]So glad I did not get a look at her keister then. All about the integrity of the chocolate starfish. Honestly, I was so shocked by the baby damage that when they asked me if I wanted to change ladies, I said no and left (note-I always pay after so it only cost me the 100 Baht tip I gave the gal). Put me off my game for a couple of days. Really felt bad for her. But hey, I'm not going to pay good money for that. Just not into bad mommy body no matter how great a performer she is.

Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?[/QUOTE]Prae and Ae are not pictured. Ae is tall. I posted past reports on both of them. From left appears to be: Jane?, Fern, Anna, Ning. Middle girl I would have to guess, so better not.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?[/QUOTE]Looks like the girl behind May might be Get, there are some pictures of her if you scroll down on their website.

You will also see pictures of Ae. By the way I would not recommend her unless you're looking for a good BJ provider. She's got baby damage and a lot of miles, and is way past her 30's.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]The first one on the left on that picture looks not bad, I don't know who it is. Anyone knows her?

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2012012]The first one on the left on that picture looks not bad, I don't know who it is. Anyone knows her?[/QUOTE]I am not in BBK till April but def will try first from left as well as May and Fern.

Thanks for the Ae update, might just go in for the BJ only.

What about Prae, recommend or no?

I think Prae and Ae are the only one that does long time outcall over night, the rest only do 2 hours outcall. Although there rooms not bad at mango so will incall where I can.

Will post report of first from left, unless someone beats me to it before April.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2012217]I am not in BBK till April but def will try first from left as well as May and Fern.

Thanks for the Ae update, might just go in for the BJ only.

What about Prae, recommend or no?

I think Prae and Ae are the only one that does long time outcall over night, the rest only do 2 hours outcall. Although there rooms not bad at mango so will incall where I can.

Will post report of first from left, unless someone beats me to it before April.[/QUOTE]I posted before that Prae gave me a very good session. First up her body is really great shape with no problems. No baby. Nice firm real tits. Slim but curvy.

For session with me she was very enthusiastic and seemed really horny (just back from a long break). We got on well and had fun. Probably does not do anal at a guess.

I can recommend for GFE (if chemistry is good). For PSE I don't know.

I also tried Ae who dids do anal. Very tight fit. I preferred Prae, as Ae was a little bit too "wildcat" for me. I was scared to get scratches or "hickey" love bites. Ae maybe a bit more refined with other customers, I don't know. Certainly no timid thing on the bed. LOL.

I also like pretty Fern for looks and performance. Good GFE. Anal? Probably not. Body not quite as good as Prae, but fine for me.

None of these girls had breast implants and no nose jobs from memory.

May looks good. I could try. Ning also looks okay For me in the photos. Could be the overall standard of looks is on the rise. I like the slim ones.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?[/QUOTE]I would imagine they are still charging the 500 Baht "butt-penalty" for A + service. If the gals were better looking that the other shops, no baby, etc; I could see it. But with this lot, nope.

I go to thailand in April and want to try soapy massage.

What is a good place in Bangkok?

Looking for skinny ladies.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bsben;2012627]I go to thailand in April and want to try soapy massage.

What is a good place in Bangkok?

Looking for skinny ladies.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Stick to gogos as soapy girls tend to have bit of flesh as most soapies cater to Asian taste. Don't know about Annies and Tulip so better check in that thread.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2012451]May looks good. I could try. Ning also looks okay For me in the photos. Could be the overall standard of looks is on the rise. I like the slim ones.[/QUOTE]Having seen the new pic with girls in uniform, I now worry that previous pics of May maybe too long ago. Figure does not look so slim in latest pic now. Ning probably is not my spec after all. New girl Tar maybe. I suspect Tar is a strange spelling but her pic looks okay For me.

Website pics of Ae with blue background are reasonably realistic, maybe photoshop smoothed a bit. The first Ae pic does not look like her at all though.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2012889]Having seen the new pic with girls in uniform, I now worry that previous pics of May maybe too long ago. Figure does not look so slim in latest pic now. Ning probably is not my spec after all. New girl Tar maybe. I suspect Tar is a strange spelling but her pic looks okay For me.

Website pics of Ae with blue background are reasonably realistic, maybe photoshop smoothed a bit. The first Ae pic does not look like her at all though.[/QUOTE]Just seen that there is a new girl Bee in Mango. Looks slim. Could be something for you. Let us know how she was in case you give her a try.

[QUOTE=Guh;2013002]Just seen that there is a new girl Bee in Mango. Looks slim. Could be something for you. Let us know how she was in case you give her a try.[/QUOTE]I think you should be more concerned about which girls you will try yourself. Then you can recommend. I make my own choices. Bee does not look like my type which is why I never mentioned her.

Face comes first for me. Skinny is not enough.

Tar and Jane could be maybe tries for me. I need to see the real girls first.

[QUOTE=Guh;2013002]Just seen that there is a new girl Bee in Mango. Looks slim. Could be something for you. Let us know how she was in case you give her a try.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013218]I think you should be more concerned about which girls you will try yourself. Then you can recommend. I make my own choices. Bee does not look like my type which is why I never mentioned her.

Face comes first for me. Skinny is not enough.

Tar and Jane could be maybe tries for me. I need to see the real girls first.[/QUOTE]I second that. The way to garner respect on this forum is to report on your experiences not just taking the information and using it only. The only way a forum like this can be successful is by mutual sharing of information and experiences. It should be a two way street. So please go yourself and giver her a try, then report back.

I have not been to an Annie's or Dr. BJ establishement in a while but recently I had 2 sessions with Wei from Chrome bar. She has tanned skin with a really nice bottom, firm stomach despite being 35 years old with a kid, and nice natural looking man mades. She is not a member of the regular staff but works about 4 days per week. No photos on their website. Her face looks like she is about 28-30 years old.

The first session with her was the 1 hour option in the short time shower room. It comes with a massage table and there is a mat on the floor. The room itself looks like a rectangular bathroom with a massage table. Her BBBJ skills were just to my taste, slow and gentle. Multiple positions were available. One hour for 2,000 Baht.

After that, I was eager to try her again, I booked her for a 2 hour session in one of their VIP rooms. 3,000 Baht. I wanted another chance to sample the goods. The session started off with a great body slide and BBBJ and 69 in the shower area. Moving to the bed, I wanted to sample that beautiful love nest so we continued with a wonderful tasting DATY session which ended in her 100% satisfied. Her climax was very slow to build up but when it happened, it was like an explosion. Wei is not a clock watcher and we played in multiple positions with me finishing in doggy. She is a great conversationalist and is nothing like the over 30 and over 40 ladies at Tulip. She looks under 30, can carry an good conversation as well as good satisfaction in the session.

Too many girls in Bangkok for me to repeat a third time but she deserves a good review and she is a definite sweet heart. I normally don't go for this age range so when I picked her, I was surprised when she told me she was 35. She hides it well.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013290]Too many girls in Bangkok for me to repeat a third time but she deserves a good review and she is a definite sweet heart. I normally don't go for this age range so when I picked her, I was surprised when she told me she was 35. She hides it well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for detailed report. Temps me to go take a peak some time. I used to use this shop due to being keen on body slide, and the rooms are much better than Annies for body slide (I am allergic to very cold aircon). One detail you may have forgotten was, could she be described as slim, or voluptuous? Something about overall shape.

My current fav girl, I fucked many times before she retired, and recently again often (aged well over 30), despite the number of girls in Bangkok. It is good to collect some very reliable fun girls. I am currently operating in frugal mode, hardly visited a bar this year. Maybe only 3 or 4 times. LOL.

Just arrived in Bangkok last night. Read lots of stuff in the forum and eagerly looking forward to explore.

Planning to try Addict and Club 102 as recommended here. A friend has also recommended Mitu on Soi 33/4 in Sukhumvit. Couldn't read much about it on the forum. Grateful if I can get any pointers.

Looking forward to living it up in BKK!

A.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013329]Thanks for detailed report. One detail you may have forgotten was, could she be described as slim, or voluptuous?[/QUOTE]I would say inbetween slim and voluptuous. She's not fat but not extremely skinny. Well proportioned would be my take on her. Similar build to Ninja at Snow White before she gained a little weight.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2013419]Just arrived in Bangkok last night. Read lots of stuff in the forum and eagerly looking forward to explore.

Planning to try Addict and Club 102 as recommended here. A friend has also recommended Mitu on Soi 33/4 in Sukhumvit. Couldn't read much about it on the forum. Grateful if I can get any pointers.

Looking forward to living it up in BKK!

A.[/QUOTE]Mitu is near to Sukhumvit Soi 33/4 Alley but not actually in it. Locate in Google Maps, the S33 Compact Sukhumvit Hotel in Soi 33, left side. Mitu is on the right side of the forecourt in front of S33 next to car parking area and also on upstairs level (2 sections to it. Red sign and blue sign). Just after Mitu in Soi 33 have New Massage, and also Dream Heaven Massage.

Mitu has the "no Hands" massage. This is supposed to mean the customer does not need to do anything. Just sit back and be worked on by the girl or girls. I did not partake since firstly I am a more active type, and secondly most of the girl pics were not my type. The one girl I liked was not working. They like you to choose from shopped pics, which is not my style. I need to see the real girls. Mitu may be great for some, but may not suit everyone.

Around 2:30 pm, great line-up, maybe 25 girls. Even I didn't know who to pick. There were at least 3 very attractive ones. I picked a really pretty one named Green because she looked like Eva Green, the French actress who played Vesper Lynd in the James Bond movie Casino Royale. Long dark brown hair, pretty tall (approximately 1 m64), fair skin, from Bangkok, rather slim but not skinny (maybe 49 kilos), fake tits that look nice and not too big. Her English is fine. She's been working at Club 102 for one year.

Her performance was technically competent but not very spirited. She doesn't make you feel like she's in love with you, like some other girls can. But she gives a great massage, HJ and BJ, and she lets you ride her for all she's worth once the session moves to Full Service. Her moaning style is pretty convincing and definitely exciting. She does not hurry you.

I would say overall her strongest point is when I lay on my stomach, and she starts with a regular massage, but then it quickly generates into a massage of my inner thighs, my scrotum, my balls, my perineum, and the base of my cock. That's extremely exciting. I knew right there I was in for a strong session.

I guess I'm picky, but if you want a bit more personality before and after the sex itself, she's not for you. If you just want to bang a beautiful chick who knows what she's doing in the sack, how to make you hard and make you come, then I would definitely recommend. I probably won't repeat due to the fact that the line-up as Club 102 is so strong these days.

Today I visited Merci formally the Madame after a long absence. Maybe the name has changed but it's the place on the left hand side of the old Nataree complex on Ratchada. It was around 1 PM and the line up was very small, about 10 ladies. I'm told that place is at its busiest from 5 PM -7 PM. I was in the mood to choose one of those white skin snooty Thai girls who plays with her phone and fiddles with her hair without any other care in the world. I was not expecting such a good session but was expecting to bang the Krap out of a beautiful star fish. However, I was pleasantly surprised after choosing her. She was a very playful girl and fun to be with. Nice petite 20 year old body with no evidence of a baby. Small breasts but such a killer bottom. After some playful touching and joking around before the shower, and the usual washing and mouthwash routine, we had a great session.

It started with an enthusiastic BBBJ? After that I turned her over and moved her into the DATY position. She quickly said no!. Well that didn't stop the dog from sinking his teeth into this juicy snatch. I looked up from between her white silky skinned thighs with a sad puppy dog look and said please. She said ok, just a little bit. Well a little bit turned into her convulsing in pleasure from the prolonged DATY I was giving her. Next was me on top for a short time, was she ever tight, and then the real fun started. She got on top and I almost lost it at that point. I just love the site of a nice proportioned body rotating on me and moaning. Well as much as I was loving it, I couldn't forget that killer rear end, so we moved to doggy. After that it was only a matter of time before I exploded. What a great and unexpected good session. Damage was 2,200 for a V girl. I can't remember the other letters but the next level up is 2,800 and I did not notice the first tier. We exchanged lime IDs and I tipped her 700 Baht, well deserved. I gave into her downstairs and all the other ladies let out a whooo when they saw. No evidence of a farang surcharge here by the way. Enjoy guys, she is only 3 months into the business and attending Ramkamhang university.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013714]Today I visited the Madame after a long absence. Maybe the name has changed but it's the place on the left hand side of the old Nataree complex on Ratchada. [/QUOTE]Should be Merci. I thought Subway massage was located there previously.

From Emerald Hotel heading north, we cross a small Soi then Merci, followed by the old Nataree complex 2 doors, and then Emannuelle, etc.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/6J8qvaDC35A2[/URL]

Interestingly the Merci sign has underneath Thai script which reads Maeksii (thai version of Maxi). So seems the place is called both Merci and Maxi. Maybe not the first time western name and Thai were different. A place called Tharn Thong (in Thai) & Selene in Soapy section became Taragon somehow.

On "LE Madame" found this indicating closed but no other info:

[URL]https://bangkokgates.com/blog/2017/02/16/the-madame-massage-parlor-closed/[/URL]

Also a map:

[URL]http://bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-soapy-massage.html[/URL]

I notice that Colonze 2 is now Ocean Massage. May go for another look, as haven't been there for years.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013727]Should be Merci. I thought Subway massage was located there previously.

From Emerald Hotel heading north, we cross a small Soi then Merci, followed by the old Nataree complex 2 doors, and then Emannuelle, etc.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/6J8qvaDC35A2[/URL]

Interestingly the Merci sign has underneath Thai script which reads Maeksii (thai version of Maxi). So seems the place is called both Merci and Maxi. Maybe not the first time western name and Thai were different. A place called Tharn Thong (in Thai) & Selene in Soapy section became Taragon somehow.

On "LE Madame" found this indicating closed but no other info:

[URL]https://bangkokgates.com/blog/2017/02/16/the-madame-massage-parlor-closed/[/URL]

Also a map:

[URL]http://bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-soapy-massage.html[/URL]

I notice that Colonze 2 is now Ocean Massage. May go for another look, as haven't been there for years.[/QUOTE]The last time I was there, it was called LE Madame. Maybe it has underwent 2 name changes since then. Honestly, I did not even look at the sign because I had other things on my mind LOL. Anyways it's the place that didn't get closed down in the nataree complex on the left LOL.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013714]Today I visited Merci formally the Madame after a long absence. Maybe the name has changed but it's the place on the left hand side of the old Nataree complex on Ratchada. It was around 1 PM and the line up was very small, about 10 ladies. I'm told that place is at its busiest from 5 PM -7 PM.
[/QUOTE]As the veteran reporter you are, you have the knowledge and good sense to show up early and not necessarily get the best selection that particular day but get a fresh body that might look forward to being banged. Merci is a rather untapped gem IMHO.

Had a long day and got off only at 8. Didn't anticipate the crazy traffic and reached Cherry at around 10 after grabbing a quick bite on the way.

Should have called to check who was available but like a fool I wanted to make the most of my first night on this trip. Miki was the only one available and the Mamasan told me she gives great service.

The place is a little run down and the room was tiny and cramped. Miki had a decent face but really tiny and sagging tits which was a big turn off for me.

Service was decent and she tried her best. I took a long time to cum as I wasn't really turned on by her. Tried 4-5 different positions and finally came in mish.

The website says he gives A level but I wasn't really interested after looking at her tits. They were literally like small cherries (maybe even tinier!

Lesson learnt. Either call and book a girl beforehand or go early to have more choice in the line up.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2013827]Had a long day and got off only at 8. Didn't anticipate the crazy traffic and reached Cherry at around 10 after grabbing a quick bite on the way.

Should have called to check who was available but like a fool I wanted to make the most of my first night on this trip. Miki was the only one available and the Mamasan told me she gives great service.

The place is a little run down and the room was tiny and cramped. Miki had a decent face but really tiny and sagging tits which was a big turn off for me.

Service was decent and she tried her best. I took a long time to cum as I wasn't really turned on by her. Tried 4-5 different positions and finally came in mish.

The website says he gives A level but I wasn't really interested after looking at her tits. They were literally like small cherries (maybe even tinier!

Lesson learnt. Either call and book a girl beforehand or go early to have more choice in the line up.[/QUOTE]Taking 2 hours to get there is too long. Definitely 10 Pm is not a good time for MPs. Given you did not want a bar girl or freelancer at that time, you should have been prepared to look in multiple venues, not just Cherry.

Not sure where you were coming from, but use BTS or similar to get there faster. Friday night traffic is bad.

I never arrive at Oilies that late.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013965]Taking 2 hours to get there is too long. Definitely 10 Pm is not a good time for MPs. Given you did not want a bar girl or freelancer at that time, you should have been prepared to look in multiple venues, not just Cherry.

Not sure where you were coming from, but use BTS or similar to get there faster. Friday night traffic is bad.

I never arrive at Oilies that late.[/QUOTE]Used a taxi like an idiot! Using BTS now.

Can't go for bar girls or freelancers, too many colleagues staying at my hotel, don't want to be caught with a girl in my arm!

Had a much better experience the next day. Report coming up.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2013980]
Can't go for bar girls or freelancers, too many colleagues staying at my hotel, don't want to be caught with a girl in my arm!
[/QUOTE]That's what ST hotels are for!

Hi,

When ever I am in transit in KUL and Jakarta its usually past midnight but can still hit a SPA / Hotel brothel that open all night.

But in BKK there isn't such a service past midnight or 1 am, you are limited to only [URL]smooci.com[/URL]?

I always go Bkk oily massage places but they all close midnight.

Never been to the soapy places (Poseidon, Amsterdam), are they at least open all night?

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2013990]That's what ST hotels are for![/QUOTE]Anil M,

I hope you understand F1 Fan's comment. If you pick up a freelance girl on the street in Soi 4 or in the Thermae Coffee shop, they will know where to take you to a Short Time hotel where there is a special room price for 1 hour (or sometimes a bit longer in my case). That way don't have to take girls back to your business Hotel which is hopefully not so close.

It is probably okay To catch taxis back once the BTS shuts down some time after midnight since traffic jams should have dropped off.

Bargirls generally know ST Hotels as well. I also posted a report listing a few ST Hotels in the Bangkok Hotels thread a few weeks back.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1976213#post1976213[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2014113]But in BKK there isn't such a service past midnight or 1 am, you are limited to only [URL]smooci.com[/URL]?

I always go Bkk oily massage places but they all close midnight.[/QUOTE]You might try the Dream Heaven shop in soi 26. A girl that was working there told me some girls are still available until 3 o'clock morning. Choice of girls will probably be limited. That information is from 6 months ago, not sure if the shop still stays open that late.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2014113]Hi,

When ever I am in transit in KUL and Jakarta its usually past midnight but can still hit a SPA / Hotel brothel that open all night.

But in BKK there isn't such a service past midnight or 1 am, you are limited to only [URL]smooci.com[/URL]?

I always go Bkk oily massage places but they all close midnight.

Never been to the soapy places (Poseidon, Amsterdam), are they at least open all night?[/QUOTE]Your best bet for a late night naughty massage is on Soi 11 Sukhumvit or visit a bar and take a freelancer or a go go girl to a short time hotel. Also there is plenty of late night action massages places that you can find with the help of what we call a tute. That's a local Thai man on the street handing out massage brochures. The fee will be higher because of his 500-1000 Baht commission. I did this a few times with a 50-50 % success rate. Sometimes the girls were not appropriate so I left. Lower Suk also has some places open. You could also prebook a massage lady for a late night session if you ask the shop to arrange a short time hotel and you could meet the lady there. I'm sure for the right price SW, Tulip, Mangos or any of the others could find you a willing lady. Think outside the box a little. There is also the We Chat People Nearby feature. So many options man.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014204]Anil M,

I hope you understand F1 Fan's comment. If you pick up a freelance girl on the street in Soi 4 or in the Thermae Coffee shop, they will know where to take you to a Short Time hotel where there is a special room price for 1 hour (or sometimes a bit longer in my case). That way don't have to take girls back to your business Hotel which is hopefully not so close.

It is probably okay To catch taxis back once the BTS shuts down some time after midnight since traffic jams should have dropped off.

Bargirls generally know ST Hotels as well. I also posted a report listing a few ST Hotels in the Bangkok Hotels thread a few weeks back.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1976213#post1976213[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry. My comment was meant to be 'enthusiastic', not meaning to come across as exclamatory or derogatory. Yep. Syz is absolutely correct; if you want to avoid colleagues (as I had to my trip in September), the girl will undoubtedly have a favorite / nearby ST hotel. I'm pretty sure the hotel above Thermae rents ST rooms even, and there is one right at the entrance to Soi Cowboy on Asoke that I've been to a few times. I'm sure there's some near Nana as well, but I've spent more time down by Soi Cowboy than Nana.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2014379]Sorry. My comment was meant to be 'enthusiastic', not meaning to come across as exclamatory or derogatory. [/QUOTE]I read it as enthusiastic. I just expanded a bit, in case the newbie doesn't understand ST Hotels. I had an ex wife who always tried to find something negative in everything said. It is so tiresome, when people love to have emotional bad reactions.

I really liked Nataree a lot and was fully disappointed when I stood in front of closed doors some months ago and realised it was permanently closed. IMHO, they had the best Girls in Bangkok and a wide choice. It will never come back, that is clear. Which place you would rate as somehow being similar?. Nataree being closed, I currently head for all kind of different Massage places in the Emporium area. Nice, but far away from what I experienced when I took the the Metro to Huai Kwang. Please, anyone can help?

[QUOTE=Leon69;2014662]I really liked Nataree a lot and was fully disappointed when I stood in front of closed doors some months ago and realised it was permanently closed. IMHO, they had the best Girls in Bangkok and a wide choice. It will never come back, that is clear. Which place you would rate as somehow being similar?. Nataree being closed, I currently head for all kind of different Massage places in the Emporium area. Nice, but far away from what I experienced when I took the the Metro to Huai Kwang. Please, anyone can help?[/QUOTE]Why not take Ralph Kramden's advice and try Merci next door to Nataree (on left side at the corner)? BKK Dog visited there recently as well. Clearly you are not reading the forum properly. If you did, you would know what to do already.

[QUOTE=Leon69;2014662]I really liked Nataree a lot and was fully disappointed when I stood in front of closed doors some months ago and realised it was permanently closed. IMHO, they had the best Girls in Bangkok and a wide choice. It will never come back, that is clear. Which place you would rate as somehow being similar?. Nataree being closed, I currently head for all kind of different Massage places in the Emporium area. Nice, but far away from what I experienced when I took the the Metro to Huai Kwang. Please, anyone can help?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014711]Why not take Ralph Kramden's advice and try Merci next door to Nataree (on left side at the corner)? BKK Dog visited there recently as well. Clearly you are not reading the forum properly. If you did, you would know what to do already.[/QUOTE]Today I did a repeat with V17 at Merci and on the way out at 3 PM the line up was looking real solid. I would recommend you to check it out. I can't guarantee it will be the same everyday at 3 PM but today it was solid. Good opportunity to be the first client of a beautiful lady.

I checked this place out the other day before my first session at Merci. It was 12:45 and the fish bowl was full of ladies, at least 30 but they were all just under or over 40 years of age. The worst thing about it was the pricing, it was 1,800-2,200. For those looking for an option near Siam Paragon where you can sneak away from the family for an hour, this would be a choice. However, you'd be better off going to Akain near Central Chitlom with no FS but at least the girl would be young and attractive.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013714]... I was in the mood to choose one of those white skin snooty Thai girls who plays with her phone and fiddles with her hair without any other care in the world. I was not expecting such a good session but was expecting to bang the Krap out of a beautiful star fish. However, I was pleasantly surprised after choosing her. She was a very playful girl and fun to be with. Nice petite 20 year old body with no evidence of a baby. Small breasts but such a killer bottom. After some playful touching and joking around before the shower, and the usual washing and mouthwash routine, we had a great session....[/QUOTE]Yes, banging the 'Krap' out of a beautiful 'starfish' is a pleasure in itself for a guy. You just need to be active with the lady and take the initiative with her, rather than wait for her to service you.

A nipple pinch here, a pussy grab there gets her in the mood. Then you get the lady really ready with your mouth or your hand on her pussy and clit. Banking the 'Krap' out of her comes next.

I've never yet met a lady who continued to play with her phone and fiddle with her hair, while I was banging the 'Krap' our of her. The only way you can miss with a lady like this is if you stay passive with her and expect her to take the initiative.

You give this lady a lot of credit for being good with you. But I'd say that you went after her in a good way. And this had a lot to do with your good experience too.

For those familiar with Bamboo, which of the following are worth a 5k overnight experience?

These are the only ladies that offer it:

Ranya, DaDa, New, Yok.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ranya/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/dada/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/new/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/yok/[/URL]

However, I asked and they all have babies.

Reason I am asking for overnight 5 k, is because I arrive midnight in BKK and don't have time to go hunting for an overnight girl. Bamboo will provide one of the above for 5 k midnight to 10 am.

Or would it be better to book a smooci lady?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2014995]For those familiar with Bamboo, which of the following are worth a 5k overnight experience?

These are the only ladies that offer it:

Ranya, DaDa, New, Yok.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ranya/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/dada/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/new/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/yok/[/URL]

However, I asked and they all have babies.

Reason I am asking for overnight 5 k, is because I arrive midnight in BKK and don't have time to go hunting for an overnight girl. Bamboo will provide one of the above for 5 k midnight to 10 am.

Or would it be better to book a smooci lady?[/QUOTE]I would be careful about Bamboo. It is being run into the ground now by the owner. For example, Wan. I asked about her a few months ago and was told she no longer works there. I just checked their website now and her profile and photos are still there. They have added new ladies but have not deleted her profile and photos. She looks extremely hot in my opinion so it is a bait and switch. For this, I would stay away. They also don't mention the fact that only these few ladies are available for overnight. It would be more helpful if they listed which ladies are and aren't available for overnight in their profiles. Instead they leave it open for interpretation that all are available by putting it in the price and rates list. Another bait and switch. When your chosen lady won't book an overnight, they will switch you to another lady.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2014988]I checked this place out the other day before my first session at Merci. It was 12:45 and the fish bowl was full of ladies, at least 30 but they were all just under or over 40 years of age. The worst thing about it was the pricing, it was 1,800-2,200. For those looking for an option near Siam Paragon where you can sneak away from the family for an hour, this would be a choice. However, you'd be better off going to Akain near Central Chitlom with no FS but at least the girl would be young and attractive.[/QUOTE]Chao Praya 2. This was my favorite Soapy between 20 and 15 years ago, still in it's hey day at that time, I still used it up to about 12 years ago, but that was about the end. A few years later a visit proved it was in serious decline, with far less girls, especially far less young pretty ones. 15 years ago I even lived very close to that Soapy.

The young girls very rarely showed up early, so 12:45 was the time for the mostly old ducks in the Booran Thai Massage section. I have not been there recently. Would be more to check it out at 5 PM but I still would not expect much.

I am still in contact with a couple of girls that worked CP2, many years ago. One is a non Thai national from Myanmar now living in Chiang Mai.

After reading several reports about Club 102, I decided to finally have a look.

Plush fancy lounge, with red velvet does not really impress me. Its only about the girls for me. I arrived early evening. Surveyed the line up. No really stunning girls (naturally). Sometimes you get a mismatch, e. G. Really nice face with fat ass (or visa versa). Sadly I must report that the girls are no where near as pretty as what the website depicts, from what I could see. Apparently they now have a lot of girls up to 50 but I saw about 15.

WaWaa (weird name - she says it's a Chinese name) was there and looks were well short of shopped website pics at the top of the Masseuses webpage. Her looks still seemed passable, being an optimist for once, so I decided to try her.

Taking clothes off revealed she was not as skinny as I prefer, A+ cups, and slightly unusual shape at the hips (top of pelvis). At least tits were natural, nose I am not so sure. Looked slightly unusual. I prefer an even slope from waist to thigh making ass look like an upside down heart, but she had a bulge at the hips. Hair darker than website, and ends looked a bit ragged. I would give the girl a 9 if she looked like the web site pics. Reality was more like a 6. Pass but only just for my fussy standard.

She complained about being tired and having a hangover. Did not know for sure it was Monday, due to partying too many nights.

In Jacuzzi she had to keep one arm out of the water, as newly tattooed. On bed she said no kissing and seemed scared that I would try to force one. She also said no DATY, but soon decided she liked it, probably stopping short of an orgasm though. BBBJ was okay Score it a 7. She was relaxed during the fuck, pussy not very tight so easy to fuck in a way. Some colour on condom so it seemed her period had started.

Overall the whole thing wasn't working for me that well. She said she liked doggy, but the doggy was not as good as I normally get. I think she had altered the aircon setting to a bit too hot for me. Definitely no repeat. On the way out I checked the other girls briefly and no one specially appealed. I also walked past Addict with about 15 girls outside. Again none of them appealed. I am not sure I feel that Club 102 is any better than Addict, for now. Of course it would just take one really great girl to change my mind, but that might not happen. If Club 102 had stunners or even very good lookers, I could try again.

To be fair, I am sure the girl would rate me as poor as well, but that is hardly the point. We weren't gelling that perfectly, for a variety of reasons (already spelled out).

I thought, session wasted. Maybe this is called taking one for the forum. I would have been far happier with Fern or Prae at Mango, for both looks and enthusiastic performance, with lots of DFK GFE (but probably not pornstars).

Later in the day visited Crazy House and took Jane, one of my few remaining regulars, and she gave me everything I expect, to finish the day on a good note. She also beats the Club 120 girl for looks and performance, even though very small A Cups. She even does ass rimming without even ever being asked. Jane was a lovely GFE and that made me perform heaps better as well. Strangely Monday 11 PM CH line up significantly better than Friday 9 PM line up. A few reasonably pretty skinny girls.

I will try not to take any more MP girls unless the looks are at least a 7 for me. Club 102 had a shortage of 7s at the time I looked.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2014995]For those familiar with Bamboo, which of the following are worth a 5k overnight experience?

These are the only ladies that offer it:

Ranya, DaDa, New, Yok.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ranya/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/dada/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/new/[/URL]

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/yok/[/URL]

However, I asked and they all have babies.

Reason I am asking for overnight 5 k, is because I arrive midnight in BKK and don't have time to go hunting for an overnight girl. Bamboo will provide one of the above for 5 k midnight to 10 am.

Or would it be better to book a smooci lady?[/QUOTE]You need to understand how much the shop takes and how much the lady gets and whether an extra tip is needed to make her happy or agreeable. I haven't tried it. I have done outcall from Tulip, Mango, and EZ, but all too many years ago. How many MP ladies want to go fuck all night when they need a sleep badly in some cases.

If I took an outcall from an MP I would do it well before midnight, since at midnight the lady could be totally fucked out already. I have read reports by guys taking MP girls late and then complaining how sleepy and lacklustre the girl was. If you do take an MP girl, make allowances for her needing sleep.

I would indeed consider other options, even street freelancers.

It's a really shitty time to arrive midnight. However there are all night massage places. There are discos to consider. You could get a fuck, sleep alone and go get another girl from daytime bars like Morning Night or Stumble Inn.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015159]You need to understand how much the shop takes and how much the lady gets and whether an extra tip is needed to make her happy or agreeable. I haven't tried it. I have done outcall from Tulip, Mango, and EZ, but all too many years ago. How many MP ladies want to go fuck all night when they need a sleep badly in some cases.

If I took annn.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for that, maybe a Bamboo all night not good option then. Was just good for the certainty of getting a girl. Even a quick fuck be good on arrival, don't really need an all nighter on my first night in. I guess smooci might be the answer.

Is there any smooci girl highly recommended?

I went to a random massage parlor for the so call "Thai massage". In the end was offered HJ, for 1000. I took it. After joining this forum I realise I paid too much.

Could anyone guide me on how much to pay for what.

I'm interested in BJ and FS. I'm going to come to Bangkok in August.

Also is it safe for ordering home delivery.

[QUOTE=RahulHorny;2015504]I went to a random massage parlor for the so call "Thai massage". In the end was offered HJ, for 1000. I took it. After joining this forum I realise I paid too much.

Also is it safe for ordering home delivery.[/QUOTE]Prices is not my favorite topic.

Why would you order home delivery and risk getting a non desirable looking girl? It's much better to go the shop and choose which girl appeals to you. Once you already are sure you like the girl, then can do take out subsequently, but I don't see the point, if you just want a massage and a fuck, unless you are very claustrophobic. If you want a girl for all night, that is different.

[QUOTE=RahulHorny;2015504]I went to a random massage parlor for the so call "Thai massage". In the end was offered HJ, for 1000. I took it. After joining this forum I realise I paid too much.

Could anyone guide me on how much to pay for what.

I'm interested in BJ and FS. I'm going to come to Bangkok in August.

Also is it safe for ordering home delivery.[/QUOTE]YMMV but in a semi-legit massage shop it should be in the 500 HJ 1000 BJ 1500 FS range. Note that when it gets to that point you are at a significant negotiating disadvantage. If your interest is FS just start off at one of the PSE shops discussed.

Ordering home delivery is safe in Bangkok if you take basic precautions and have some situational awareness.

SL.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2015448]OK, thanks for that, maybe a Bamboo all night not good option then. Was just good for the certainty of getting a girl. Even a quick fuck be good on arrival, don't really need an all nighter on my first night in. I guess smooci might be the answer.

Is there any smooci girl highly recommended?[/QUOTE]You are coming to Bangkok man. There are plenty of options available. Outcall massage is just one small one. For example from 1 AM to 2 AM you can find a willing participant at any go go bar in Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong. You could be in and out of the bar with your lady in 20-30 minutes. Secondly there is Thermae where you can find plenty of choices. The Soi 4 Hillary bars or Climax on Soi 11 or We chat people nearby. You should not be worried about not finding a lady. Your only worry will be which option or lady to choose because there are too many to choose from. The 5,000 plus tip you were ready to fork over to Bamboo will be more like 2,500 -3,000 for ST and about 3,500-4,000 for LT. Freelancers from Thermae and Climax come with no bar fine and you can meet them before deciding.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2015643]You are coming to Bangkok man. There are plenty of options available. Outcall massage is just one small one. For example from 1 AM to 2 AM you can find a willing participant at any go go bar in Nana, Soi Cowboy or Patpong. You could be in and out of the bar with your lady in 20-30 minutes. Secondly there is Thermae where you can find plenty of choices. The Soi 4 Hillary bars or Climax on Soi 11 or We chat people nearby. You should not be worried about not finding a lady. Your only worry will be which option or lady to choose because there are too many to choose from. The 5,000 plus tip you were ready to fork over to Bamboo will be more like 2,500 -3,000 for ST and about 3,500-4,000 for LT. Freelancers from Thermae and Climax come with no bar fine and you can meet them before deciding.[/QUOTE]Yes plenty of options apart from the MPs that close at midnight.

Last night peeked in Thermae at 12.30 am. Fancied about 2 or 3 girls. A lot more girls of some other guy's taste. At that time, even two or three moderately pretty girls on the street in Sukhumvit Soi 4 awaiting guys coming out of Nana Plaza with no girl. These street girls will go for 1000 to 1500 baht most likely. Need care to not pick a ladyboy with a dick of course. Perhaps need to pay more if want girl for more than an hour and a better service. Taking time to build chemistry always seems critical to me. I find difficult to get a really great service from street girls or Thermae girls on a first time booking, in recent times. Bar girls cost more but more likely to perform for me first time, perhaps because I have built the chemistry first. Oily MP girls a better bet for performance, if in the best MP shops, but the time is a bit late for them unless take special all night MPs. Soapy girls do not seem to be a good bet for me in the modern day, where they were reliable 15 to 20 years ago. Have to find the girls that really like dick.

It's my last day in BKK tomorrow and I have to try a good soapy or bury.

I'd prefer something like a pse. Recommendations?

I visited this place last weekend. About 30 ladys in the fishbowl, but all of them MILF, no girl younger than 35. So I selected one of the "superstars" who perform the soapy show on a mattress for 2000 for 2 hours. Papasan explained in good english that the others wouldn't do soapy. 2 hours give you plenty of time to enjoy in a relaxed way. My girl had big natural boobs which she used a lot together with a blowjob on my dick on the mattress and in the bathtub. On the bed we did several positions and she was always willing to please. All in all no bad experience, but I would not repeat; there are much more beautiful young girls out there.

[QUOTE=Traveller747;2015949]I visited this place last weekend. About 30 ladys in the fishbowl, but all of them MILF, no girl younger than 35. So I selected one of the "superstars" who perform the soapy show on a mattress for 2000 for 2 hours. Papasan explained in good english that the others wouldn't do soapy. 2 hours give you plenty of time to enjoy in a relaxed way. My girl had big natural boobs which she used a lot together with a blowjob on my dick on the mattress and in the bathtub. On the bed we did several positions and she was always willing to please. All in all no bad experience, but I would not repeat; there are much more beautiful young girls out there.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that there were a lot of ladies available but all except 1 or 2 were over 40 and a few around 35. For 200 baht more I was with a 20 year old spinner at Merci the other day. If it were 1,200-1,500, I would have chosen a girl here.

After my experience at Chao Phraya 2 I was curious whether the high class options are really worth the money they claim. Both houses are next to each other, so checking out the options in both is easy. I started at Copacabana; 5 ladys in the fishbowl on grouind floor, all MILF at the lowest pricelevel. Upstairs are the models, maybe 15 of them. Papasan explained the different, much higher, price options. And yes, the girls were more beautiful here, but in my opinion not one of them justified 5000 or more. So Poseidon was next. You take a lift to the third floor, no fishbowl here, the girls sit on one side of the room, the customers on the other side. I saw about 20 girls and some were quite nice; but same same in my opinion. The price is not justified.

At Addict ore club 102 you can find young beauties at a much better cost-ratio.

[QUOTE=Traveller747;2015954]After my experience at Chao Phraya 2 I was curious whether the high class options are really worth the money they claim. Both houses are next to each other, so checking out the options in both is easy. I started at Copacabana; 5 ladys in the fishbowl on grouind floor, all MILF at the lowest pricelevel. Upstairs are the models, maybe 15 of them. Papasan explained the different, much higher, price options. And yes, the girls were more beautiful here, but in my opinion not one of them justified 5000 or more. So Poseidon was next. You take a lift to the third floor, no fishbowl here, the girls sit on one side of the room, the customers on the other side. I saw about 20 girls and some were quite nice; but same same in my opinion. The price is not justified.

At Addict ore club 102 you can find young beauties at a much better cost-ratio.[/QUOTE]The two Soapies you mention are not considered top any more. Copa Cabana was good many years ago. Poseidon always tended to lack really pretty faces, IMHO. Try Merci next to where Nataree used to be, or maybe Emannuelle which has been taken over by the Amsterdam club.

Who are the beauties at Addict and Club 102? I have struggled to find them. Maybe just my taste.

Chao Praya 2 was a great Soapy 15 to 20 years ago. Declined badly at least 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2015971]The two Soapies you mention are not considered top any more. Copa Cabana was good many years ago. Poseidon always tended to lack really pretty faces, IMHO. Try Merci next to where Nataree used to be, or maybe Emannuelle which has been taken over by the Amsterdam club.

Who are the beauties at Addict and Club 102? I have struggled to find them. Maybe just my taste.

Chao Praya 2 was a great Soapy 15 to 20 years ago. Declined badly at least 12 years ago[/QUOTE]Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. At least you can find some who are as attractive as the beforementioned "models".

[QUOTE=Traveller747;2016085]Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. At least you can find some who are as attractive as the beforementioned "models".[/QUOTE]Yes good point. All equally mediocre line ups. So yes you don't want to pay extra money for no improvement.

[QUOTE=Traveller747;2016085]Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. At least you can find some who are as attractive as the beforementioned "models".[/QUOTE]Indeed you must have a peculiar taste because I think Club102 has really very attractive girls and, moreover, with partly excellent service. They are carefulyl selected and I envy the boss who tests them!

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2016184]Indeed you must have a peculiar taste because I think Club102 has really very attractive girls and, moreover, with partly excellent service. They are carefulyl selected and I envy the boss who tests them![/QUOTE]Who are the best lookers at Club 102? And for service? Anyone highly recommended? I tried Wa Waa but rather so so for me.

I will RTFF in case you have already answered previously. I looked at your past posts and not much detail except for Ying (37 YO).

If I had previously seen your post about CIM in Thai language I would have answered better than others. Don't know if you still need it.
"Om (blowjob) set nai bark dai mai?" is a good approximation, of course you will stuff up the tones. I can provide in Thai script if you still need it. Word "blowjob" can be omitted, however I guess that most working girls might know this English word.

"harm set nai bark" is one possible answer meaning CIM is forbidden. "dai" simply means "allowed". "mai dai" means not allowed.

Oh so busy last night around 9. One particular place looked more fun, with the billboard showing stocking-clad "harassment agents" (I think it said). Any experience?

Will do another trawl today and report back.

Hi,

anyone try Pinky at Cherry massage?

[URL]http://cherrymassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Pinky-Cherry-Massage-Bangkok-3.jpg[/URL]

Wanted to book Yok but not there until April, offered Pinky. Is she any good?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?[/QUOTE]Mango shop got back to me and confirmed name of the girl on the left, even though people saying Ae not in group pic, turns out that is Ae.

Mixed reviews here but she does look hot there, apparently she has baby so then maybe her MILF looks are starting to kick in.

I'm in the awkward setting of having just a few hours of waiting time in transit. I know my downtown spots quite well, but can any of my fellow punters give me a pointer to a MP close to the airport? I want to show one of my friends the BKK goodies, but we do not have the luxury of all nighter between the flights this time around. I did RTFF, but could not find any sharp pointers.

Cheers, Peff.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016317]Who are the best lookers at Club 102? And for service? Anyone highly recommended? I tried Wa Waa but rather so so for me.

ed.[/QUOTE]There is a recent report that Green is good service at 102 but got fake tits.

I should be going to 102 for first time in late April, so yeah any suggestions on girls there be welcomed.

This is report from just a little while back, forget I didn't put this up.

Went to Kiss and tried Cake incall and then later as an outcall.

This her photos but they are pics of her in her early 20's, she prob late 20's coming up to 30 now so older.

[URL]http://kissbangkokmassage.com/images/masseuses/cake/index.html[/URL]

First of she speaks excellent English so real easy to talk to and so I really liked that.

She has massive real tits and curvy ass, but yeah all of her is pretty curvy. Wouldn't call her fat but she is "full body" girl hence the large tits. In fact she might be the largest real tits I have fck in Bangkok.

She does it all and good massage, even does anal, in fact she demands A+! I was happy fcking her missionary but she flipped over whilst getting super wet and said she wanted anal. Was my first time massage girl asked for anal and I obliged straight a way! It normally takes me long to pop but fcking here curvy ass was sooo good and I popped in like 5 minutes!

After brief massage she rod me again and wanted more anal! But I was just not hard for it. She gave a great BBBJ instead.

Yeah so good girl I would recommend, not sure she does anal with all her customers but for me on the day (I took her incall in morning and outcall at night) she craved it.

Negatives some might find: besides not being skinny girl she also has a kid but you couldn't really tell from her body.

So yeah I recommend cause her ass is piece of Cake to fck!

[QUOTE=Peff13;2016855]I'm in the awkward setting of having just a few hours of waiting time in transit. I know my downtown spots quite well, but can any of my fellow punters give me a pointer to a MP close to the airport? [/QUOTE]The closest MP near Suvarnabhumi airport should be Tarawadee [URL]http://www.soapy-massage.com/tarawadee-osaka-massage-parlor-new-petchaburi--road-bangkok.html[/URL]#Tarawadee_Resort_Spa_Pattanakarn_Road_[/URL] at Patthanakarn Road [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/dir//13.735826,100.631005/@13.734319,100.6291385,17z[/URL]

But those venues near tollway at Rama IX like Catherine or The office should be easy to get to too.

[QUOTE=Peff13;2016855]I'm in the awkward setting of having just a few hours of waiting time in transit. I know my downtown spots quite well, but can any of my fellow punters give me a pointer to a MP close to the airport? I want to show one of my friends the BKK goodies, but we do not have the luxury of all nighter between the flights this time around. I did RTFF, but could not find any sharp pointers.

Cheers, Peff.[/QUOTE]I think you need to realise that most ISG writers are not into several hour turnarounds. We get questions like this often, but I think very few come back and post their experiences. There possibly are some if you search. Near airport is not normal mongering area. You don't even say how much time you actually have from leaving airport to return. I guess you don't know.

There is a special Thread for this topic you could try:
"Service Options and Hotels for a Short Bangkok Layover"

Tarawadee mentioned by Zauberfee maybe a good option if your time starts between 5PM and 9PM, you did not say what time you wanted to play. It is probably not the closest to the airport, but is well known and recommended. I have been there more than once.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016317].[/QUOTE]OK, big boss Syz, . What is the phrase for. "oops. Premature mess.

Sorry about that stuff in your mouth?

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2016974]OK, big boss Syz, . What is the phrase for. "oops. Premature mess.

Sorry about that stuff in your mouth?[/QUOTE]Ha ha. You crack me up. I will have a go for you.

"Ooee dtaay" - 'die' exclamation of surprise.
"naam dtaek laew" - the 'water' just burst out.
"Khaw thort maak na khrap" - I am so sorry.
"bpaak khun le laew" - your mouth is slushy now.

I don't show the correct tones.

Is this a test to see if I really speak Thai beyond elementary level? LOL Still learning, but I have probably 4000 words of vocab. I should keep studying to try to get to 8000. Thai kids aged 10 are still way better than me. Farangs speaking Thai generally sound a bit funny, especially Thai with an American accent. LOL

The critical point with any language comes when you realise you are thinking in that language, and don't have to translate from English to Thai. I started learning Thai 25 years ago but have to keep picking up new things. Learning Thai was actually fun for me. Much more fun than a highly grammatical language like German. However I recommend guys to start young, before brain starts to seize up and be willing to persist regularly. Takes huge effort and time. I don't believe in the AUA Immersion method. Just takes to long to get anywhere. I use Flashcards App to learn vocab with Thai on one side and English on the other of each flashcard. It provides spaced repetition based on how well you know a word or not. Can be loaded from a spreadsheet word list. Currently working on a big spreadsheet of word lists merged from various sources. Learning tones and pronunciation requires a good teacher in early stages.

Still I met a pretty newbie massage girl recently with almost zero English, so comes in handy that she could discuss many things with me, where for most customers, she cannot. Also my GF does not choose to speak English.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2016874]
So yeah I recommend cause her ass is piece of Cake to fck![/QUOTE]Obviously her pics are too good (not recent), still I am tempted to at least take a look and see if I could branch out from my skinny girls. I don't mind soft voluptuous girls in not fat. A big test for me, is does the girl still have some gap between the upper thighs. Gap seems to make the ass much more sexy for me. Big thick thighs is not quite my thing. I like big natural tits if the girl can still have somewhat skinny legs. LOL Cake's legs look fine in the pics. ha ha.

Had to look up where it was. Second small soi on left in Soi 22 after Marriott Marquis Hotel. I have hardly ever used MPs in Soi 22 apart from Bongkot (for June) previously. I did visit some MPs in Soi 22 vicinity in the past but mostly line ups that made me shudder. Are there any other Soi 22 MPs, considered very worthwhile? My problem is preferring all natural spinners (of course).

It is very rare I get the benefit of others recommendations, because guys tastes vary so much. Still I would never have gone to shops like Tulip and SW, and Mango, if they had not been recommended on the forum. I will try Merci Soapy soon too.

These days I specially look to Natty Bumpo's recommendations since we seem to have very close to identical taste in girls. He picks slim girls with lovely cute moutsh and noses mostly. LOL However I am always willing to try some other venues, just to see.

I think it is worthwhile for other readers to try to discover which posters have very similar tastes.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016990]Obviously her pics are too good (not recent), still I am tempted to at least take a look and see if I could branch out from my skinny girls. I don't mind soft voluptuous girls in not fat. A big test for me, is does the girl still have some gap between the upper thighs. Gap seems to make the ass much more sexy for me. Big thick thighs is not quite my thing. I like big natural tits if the girl can still have somewhat skinny legs. LOL Cake's legs look fine in the pics. ha ha.

Had to look up where it was. Second small soi on left in Soi 22 after Marriott Marquis Hotel. I have hardly ever used MPs in Soi 22 apart from Bongkot (for June) previously. I did visit some MPs in Soi 22 vicinity in the past but mostly line ups that made me shudder. Are there any other Soi 22 MPs, considered very worthwhile? My problem is preferring all natural spinners (of course).

It is very rare I get the benefit of others recommendations, because guys tastes vary so much. Still I would never have gone to shops like Tulip and SW, and Mango, if they had not been recommended on the forum. I will try Merci Soapy soon too..[/QUOTE]I saw Cake about 5 months ago so she might be bigger win maybe?

Even thought "fat" she not to me I can see how others would think so, yeah I don't think you going to find a huge gap but I do think there was some what of a gap there.

When I saw her as well she was eager to please.

As for other girls there, if you don't like her from first site they git heaps more as its 3 shops in the same alley way (Honey bee and Passion). Only other girl I tried was Sarah and she okay.

Next time I go there I want to try Gift.

Thanks to Syzgies for pointing me to the exact location of this place. Heard mixed reviews about this but decided to go for it because I hadn't had any mat play for quite some time.

Reached around 7.30 pm and was shown 4 options on the ipad. Selected Aya, paid up and was escorted into a plush looking room. This place is a little high end so be prepared to pay 3000 be+.

The service was quite good, everything on the menu except DFK. She did a good job with BBBJ and rimming. Tried doing it on the mat but it was tricky, very very slippery but was fun! She was smiling throughout the session, played good music on her phone and was enthusiastic to please.

Took a 90 min session, had enough time for 2 shots. There were no complaints or efforts to hurry me up.

The mamasan gave me some vitamin the syrup bottle for sexual strength when I came in and while leaving the man at the counter gave me an ice cream!

So all in all it was a very good experience albeit a bit expensive. Please try this place out if you want some nuru experience on an inflatable mat.

Understood. Thanks for the info. Will try this in my next trip in a couple of months.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014204]Anil M,

I hope you understand F1 Fan's comment. If you pick up a freelance girl on the street in Soi 4 or in the Thermae Coffee shop, they will know where to take you to a Short Time hotel where there is a special room price for 1 hour (or sometimes a bit longer in my case). That way don't have to take girls back to your business Hotel which is hopefully not so close.

It is probably okay To catch taxis back once the BTS shuts down some time after midnight since traffic jams should have dropped off.

Bargirls generally know ST Hotels as well. I also posted a report listing a few ST Hotels in the Bangkok Hotels thread a few weeks back.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=1976213#post1976213[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2016874]This is report from just a little while back, forget I didn't put this up.

Went to Kiss and tried Cake incall and then later as an outcall.

This her photos but they are pics of her in her early 20's, she prob late 20's coming up to 30 now so older.

[URL]http://kissbangkokmassage.com/images/masseuses/cake/index.html[/URL]

First of she speaks excellent English so real easy to talk to and so I really liked that.

She has massive real tits and curvy ass, but yeah all of her is pretty curvy. Wouldn't call her fat but she is "full body" girl hence the large tits. In fact she might be the largest real tits I have fck in Bangkok.

She does it all and good massage, even does anal, in fact she demands A+! I was happy fcking her missionary but she flipped over whilst getting super wet and said she wanted anal. Was my first time massage girl asked for anal and I obliged straight a way! It normally takes me long to pop but fcking here curvy ass was sooo good and I popped in like 5 minutes!

After brief massage she rod me again and wanted more anal! But I was just not hard for it. She gave a great BBBJ instead.

Yeah so good girl I would recommend, not sure she does anal with all her customers but for me on the day (I took her incall in morning and outcall at night) she craved it.

Negatives some might find: besides not being skinny girl she also has a kid but you couldn't really tell from her body.

So yeah I recommend cause her ass is piece of Cake to fck![/QUOTE]Checked Cake's pics and seems like she is my type of girl.

I have never tried Kiss Massage.

I saw the prices and it does not state clearly.

Please help me to know the prices.

How many shots allowed? 2? 3?

Just remember her photo is from younger days, add 10 years on for look now.

As for price, all three shops have same pricing (Honey Bee, Kiss, Passion).

If you want just massge they do all sorts but sex is called the full service and its 2600. Or at least under 3 k. They compete with Analisa which is next door.

They don't advertise the anal, it's just what she was into and hey maybe it was a thing she wanted then but it looked like she was a fan.

Just go there and give it ago.

But I repeat, she looks older now, has had a kid sine photos, and a bit more meat on her compared to those photos but more meat makes for a great ass to pound!

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2017587]Checked Cake's pics and seems like she is my type of girl.

I have never tried Kiss Massage.

I saw the prices and it does not state clearly.

Please help me to know the prices.

How many shots allowed? 2? 3?[/QUOTE]

Forewarning: cake has massive amount of stretch marks everywhere (especially on her tits, very elderly looking) because she gained weight fast. And yes, she's fat not curvy. Saw her once and she looks nothing like her pictures in the body dept. Kiss / honeybee heavily photoshop their images. Have been there a ton of times myself, it's not a bad place or anything. It's just that you need to know the intel on them. They used to have a really pretty girl there called rung. Since she left it seems like the girls are getting less pretty. I would only do Pink myself as I've seen their lineup brought out (from all 3 nearby shops) and most all the girls are overweight and average looking, other than Pink who looks decent.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2017587]Checked Cake's pics and seems like she is my type of girl.

I have never tried Kiss Massage.

I saw the prices and it does not state clearly.

Please help me to know the prices.

How many shots allowed? 2? 3?[/QUOTE]

I went to Addict mid-afternoon and the line-up was decent but not mind-blowing. I picked a tall girl with dye-blonde hair named Music. She likes to sing to herself while taking care of you. She has a good voice too: she is probably the loudest moaner at Addict.

She made a comment about one hour being too rushy for a bathtub room, and in the end it was indeed a bit rushed. Just to be clear: she didn't rush me to come during sex, but she rushed me to shower after sex. Funny, with the other girls it's not really a problem. Don't know where the time went?

She's very slim, no baby damage, small tits but natural and pretty. Overall quite a looker. Pretty close to her website pictures.

After the flip she went straight to BJ with no HJ, which was weird but not unpleasant. I fucked her in quite a few positions and saved the missionary for last and a good finish. All in all quite enjoyable.

Would I repeat? I didn't like to be rushed at the end, so probably not. Would I recommend? Yes, she is pretty enough and quite professional. Just take the shower option or the 90-minute option.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2017827]Forewarning: cake has massive amount of stretch marks everywhere (especially on her tits, very elderly looking) because she gained weight fast. And yes, she's fat not curvy. Saw her once and she looks nothing like her pictures in the body dept. Kiss / honeybee heavily photoshop their images. Have been there a ton of times myself, it's not a bad place or anything. It's just that you need to know the intel on them. They used to have a really pretty girl there called rung. Since she left it seems like the girls are getting less pretty. I would only do Pink myself as I've seen their lineup brought out (from all 3 nearby shops) and most all the girls are overweight and average looking, other than Pink who looks decent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing us back to earth reality for guys basically into spinners, or maybe tall and slim. I can always take a peek in there but won't set my expectations too high. Pink Pics look fine for me.
[url]http://honeybeemassagebangkok.com/masseuses/pink/[/url]

No shop has lots of pretty girls, as far as I can see. However can be just about finding just one or two girls that look special.

Have you ever seen Fha? Her pics look okay To me, but maybe grossly shopped.

[url]http://kissbangkokmassage.com/images/masseuses/fha/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2017835]
After the flip she went straight to BJ with no HJ, which was weird but not unpleasant. I fucked her in quite a few positions and saved the missionary for last and a good finish. All in all quite enjoyable.

Would I repeat? I didn't like to be rushed at the end, so probably not. Would I recommend? Yes, she is pretty enough and quite professional. Just take the shower option or the 90-minute option.[/QUOTE]One wonders if she rushed you to the shower simply due to running out of time, and wishing to avoid late fines.

I would never consider using a Jacuzzi or bath in a 1 hour timeslot. That just seems ridiculous to me, unless you start the fucking while bath fills and just take a bath instead of shower at the end.

Skipping a HJ and going straight to BJ does not seem strange to me. I definitely prefer it. In a one hour booking there is no time for mucking around, wasting time on massages etc. , for me.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2017827]Forewarning: cake has massive amount of stretch marks everywhere (especially on her tits, very elderly looking) because she gained weight fast. And yes, she's fat not curvy. Saw her once and she looks nothing like her pictures in the body dept. Kiss / honeybee heavily photoshop their images. Have been there a ton of times myself, it's not a bad place or anything. It's just that you need to know the intel on them. They used to have a really pretty girl there called rung. Since she left it seems like the girls are getting less pretty. I would only do Pink myself as I've seen their lineup brought out (from all 3 nearby shops) and most all the girls are overweight and average looking, other than Pink who looks decent.[/QUOTE]Parkville, have you tried Gift at Honey bee?

[URL]http://honeybeemassagebangkok.com/masseuses/gift/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017850]Thanks for bringing us back to earth reality for guys basically into spinners, or maybe tall and slim. I can always take a peek in there but won't set my expectations too high. Pink Pics look fine for me.
[url]http://honeybeemassagebangkok.com/masseuses/pink/[/url]

No shop has lots of pretty girls, as far as I can see. However can be just about finding just one or two girls that look special.

Have you ever seen Fha? Her pics look okay To me, but maybe grossly shopped.

[url]http://kissbangkokmassage.com/images/masseuses/fha/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Fa is okay, not too photoshopped (most of the other girls are way more fat, such as Amy for example and also Sara). I only saw Fa once last year in the summer and rarely / never see her in the shop. Need to call ahead for her and she might be hard to get ahold of even if you call in as sometimes the girls just kind of dissappear or only work outcall and then just fall off the grid. Fa provided me very GFE service but I don't go to honeybee for GFE though, I got for the tantric-like massage, which she didn't really do or know how to do. I think Fa has some mild baby damage, I can't remember as I only saw her once and vaguely remember details about her body.

Pink was okay but she is gaining weight but last time I saw her it works well with her (real bubble butt so she looks like she is from Myanmar and not Thai). Pink provides very good services though in the blowjob and body slide department. So I do recommend her and I think honeybee is more about service than looks. But I also am not a tulip kind of guy so when I say service I'm talking about tantric not A+ and I also prefer women under 33 not over which honeybee certainly has younger girls than other places. Some guys don't care about looks if they are just getting a BJ but for me I still prefer the girl look to be quite do-able for an sexual services rendered.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2017880]Fa is okay, not too photoshopped (most of the other girls are way more fat, such as Amy for example and also Sara). I only saw Fa once last year in the summer and rarely / never see her in the shop. Need to call ahead for her and she might be hard to get ahold of even if you call in as sometimes the girls just kind of dissappear or only work outcall and then just fall off the grid. Fa provided me very GFE service but I don't go to honeybee for GFE though, I got for the tantric-like massage, which she didn't really do or know how to do. I think Fa has some mild baby damage, I can't remember as I only saw her once and vaguely remember details about her body.

Pink was okay but she is gaining weight but last time I saw her it works well with her (real bubble butt so she looks like she is from Myanmar and not Thai). Pink provides very good services though in the blowjob and body slide department. So I do recommend her and I think honeybee is more about service than looks. But I also am not a tulip kind of guy so when I say service I'm talking about tantric not A+ and I also prefer women under 33 not over which honeybee certainly has younger girls than other places. Some guys don't care about looks if they are just getting a BJ but for me I still prefer the girl look to be quite do-able for an sexual services rendered.[/QUOTE]Thanks for detailed info. Really good stuff. Sounds like Fha could be worth trying for me. Can't say I know anything about Tantric massage (without researching), since I thought Tantric was about extended sex avoiding cum so can go on and on. As I have difficulty to cum, after long sex, that sort of seems normal to me. I could imagine plenty of guys using Vitamin V to make sure they fuck for very long time. LOL I am not really into any real types of massage, but like more erotic stuff like body slide, and sexy tickling. I like "no hands no feet massage" (use it is, bottom, mouth, and pussy to do the massaging LOL) I will have to look up Tantric massage to see what it's about. I recall I previously looked it up, but the exact meaning did not exactly sink in, or perhaps I felt the exact meaning was a bit vague.

Girls can be over 33 okay for me, if face and body did not deteriorate too much. My favorite fuck is 34, and just suits me perfectly for her experience, style, and looks. Maybe our sex is somewhat tantric style? I will have to research to find out if our style qualifies. LOL. It's certainly slow paced but definitely not at all religious.

My GF is 38 with still great body. No girl's face is quite as good at 38 as was at 20 of course.

I used to enjoy certain athletic type girls at Tulip but was long ago, and I am due for a retry.

Out of curiosity, it sounds like you are getting around a lot. How many new massage girls are you trying per week? I start to suspect a heavy research workload. LOL Or is it just a lot of different shops tried? In my case, massage attendance in general dropped off a lot, as I simply struggle to find the new girls to excite me.

Last really pretty face MP girl turned out to be only moderately compatible with me for the sex, even though sweet and compliant. It has been hard to find girls to really drag me away from a very small number of regular girls.

I have known and fucked some Thayai girls from mountains of Myanmar, but I never noticed anything strange about their butts. They do tend to have eyes a bit more slanty than Thais, coming from regions close to China and Tibet.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017891]Out of curiosity, it sounds like you are getting around a lot. How many new massage girls are you trying per week? I start to suspect a heavy research workload. LOL Or is it just a lot of different shops tried? In my case, massage attendance in general dropped off a lot, as I simply struggle to find the new girls to excite me.

Last really pretty face MP girl turned out to be only moderately compatible with me for the sex, even though sweet and compliant. It has been hard to find girls to really drag me away from a very small number of regular girls.

I have known and fucked some Thayai girls from mountains of Myanmar, but I never noticed anything strange about their butts. They do tend to have eyes a bit more slanty than Thais, coming from regions close to China and Tibet.[/QUOTE]I just went to Honeybee a lot actually because there was a very hot and skilled girl there called rung. After she left I would scout the talent there and still go and found Pink to be pretty good. Tried some of the others but not repeat material or were just so far from their photoshoped pictures. Before that, I spent a year of going to soapies in Ratchada as I lived there in 2015. So lot's of visits to Nataree and soapies nearby. I sometimes go to oillies on 24/1 but usually am not impressed with the quality (looks), ever. Very Japanese tourist focused I think, I prefer the Thai local focused places like soapies for quality. Other than that not much going out when I lived in Bangkok, just a few places but I try to share and find intell as it's not easy to find good looks during the daytime (the only time I monger really). Anyway I moved to Pattaya now so I'm exploring that scene. Paradise massage on Soi Honey is pretty good, very attractive women during the daytime but the facilities are pretty low quality.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2017827]Forewarning: cake has massive amount of stretch marks everywhere (especially on her tits, very elderly looking) because she gained weight fast. And yes, she's fat not curvy. Saw her once and she looks nothing like her pictures in the body dept. Kiss / honeybee heavily photoshop their images. Have been there a ton of times myself, it's not a bad place or anything. It's just that you need to know the intel on them. They used to have a really pretty girl there called rung. Since she left it seems like the girls are getting less pretty. I would only do Pink myself as I've seen their lineup brought out (from all 3 nearby shops) and most all the girls are overweight and average looking, other than Pink who looks decent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. That strikes her for me. Just can't stomach baby damage. Two bad things can come from sex, pregnancy and disease, and for the most part both are preventable.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017891]I like "no hands no feet massage" (use it is, bottom, mouth, and pussy to do the massaging LOL)[/QUOTE]That was supposed to read "use tits, bottom, etc. " Shows what a great job the automated spelling masher does, to change what was typed to some totally unintended nonsense.

Tarawadee at Patthanakarn Road and venues near tollway at Rama IX like Catherine or The office.

Thanks, Zauberfee and Syzygies, for these pointers. Tarawadee seems within reach by combining the airport train and some form of wheels. It's happening from around noon time with the next flight around 5 pm, ready with boarding cards and no luggage, so we won't need much time back at the airport.

Will let you know how it went, if at all!

Cheers, & monger on!

Peff.

[QUOTE=Peff13;2018249]Tarawadee at Patthanakarn Road and venues near tollway at Rama IX like Catherine or The office.

Thanks, Zauberfee and Syzygies, for these pointers. Tarawadee seems within reach by combining the airport train and some form of wheels. It's happening from around noon time with the next flight around 5 pm, ready with boarding cards and no luggage, so we won't need much time back at the airport.

Will let you know how it went, if at all!

Cheers, & monger on!

Peff.[/QUOTE]Why waste time with airport train? Just get a taxi direct, no mucking around. 20 mins to Tarawadee by taxi, most likely, and a bit more to some other venues. The return from Tarawadee to airport could take a lot longer, if heavy traffic. Important tip. Do not catch a taxi right at Tarawadee to go to the airport. It would have to head off in the wrong direction, I believe. Crossover Pattanakharn road using footbridge overpass, and catch a taxi on the other side, to save a lot of time. If use Google Map satellite view of Tarawadee you can see the problem of multi lane divided carriage way and Thailand cars driving on left side. Right turn out of Tarawadee is not possible. Google Maps allows you to select the right day and time of travel and it will estimate the taxi route and travel time.

Having visited all 3 venues, Tarawadee, The Office, and Catherine, and others nearby like Nancy, Colonze, and La Defense, if was me, I would go with Tarawadee as the most classy.

Catherine girl looks underwhelmed me and similar for Nancy. La Defense a lot better in the higher price section. Tarawadee should be better overall line up, although a lot of girls with nose operations (which usually don't quite do it for me personally).

Catherine and Nancy probably win out, if you look for cheapest prices, ordinary looks.

What time of day do you intend to arrive there? I hope it is late afternoon through to mid evening.

[QUOTE=Peff13;2018249]Tarawadee at Patthanakarn Road and venues near tollway at Rama IX like Catherine or The office.

Thanks, Zauberfee and Syzygies, for these pointers. Tarawadee seems within reach by combining the airport train and some form of wheels. It's happening from around noon time with the next flight around 5 pm, ready with boarding cards and no luggage, so we won't need much time back at the airport.

Will let you know how it went, if at all!

Cheers, & monger on!

Peff.[/QUOTE]Two things you need to consider. The first is that Tarawadee has a reputation for not being very farang-friendly and the second is that the selection is likely to be very limited in the early afternoon. Bkkdog recently reported a good selection of girls at Merci at that time of day so if I were you I'd take the airport train to Makkasan and then the MRT to Huay Kwang, which is a short walk to Merci.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2017757]Just remember her photo is from younger days, add 10 years on for look now.

As for price, all three shops have same pricing (Honey Bee, Kiss, Passion).

If you want just massge they do all sorts but sex is called the full service and its 2600. Or at least under 3 k. They compete with Analisa which is next door.

They don't advertise the anal, it's just what she was into and hey maybe it was a thing she wanted then but it looked like she was a fan.

Just go there and give it ago.

But I repeat, she looks older now, has had a kid sine photos, and a bit more meat on her compared to those photos but more meat makes for a great ass to pound![/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up dude. Info on pricing was what I wanted, beyond that I would have checked out the lady first before paying a dime. Looking at the 10 years + old pic, I won't go for her probably, but will drop by and checkout the other talent. Many Thanks again Dude.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2017827]Forewarning: cake has massive amount of stretch marks everywhere (especially on her tits, very elderly looking) because she gained weight fast. And yes, she's fat not curvy. Saw her once and she looks nothing like her pictures in the body dept. Kiss / honeybee heavily photoshop their images. Have been there a ton of times myself, it's not a bad place or anything. It's just that you need to know the intel on them. They used to have a really pretty girl there called rung. Since she left it seems like the girls are getting less pretty. I would only do Pink myself as I've seen their lineup brought out (from all 3 nearby shops) and most all the girls are overweight and average looking, other than Pink who looks decent.[/QUOTE]That is very good intel bro. Thanks for the same.

I wish more power to you in your mongering.

After changing hands from owner Beer, I had never stepped into Candy. But about 2 weeks back (when I was heading to Cherry massage to have my session with NEW), I spotted some lookers sitting outside Candy.

A few days later, I decided to step in and found the system was more or less the same. 2400 for 90 minutes and 2 shots was assured. Nan was a good find, though initially she was reluctant to do BBBJ. We did a couple of different postures, DATY, 69, Doggie etc etc and she was in good mood to give all.

About 5 days back I went back and chose a big girl named EYE, All was good, but she refused to do BBBJ again. This time, I was miffed and went down to the manager a Japanese guy, Then a lady pacified me and brought in 3 more girls to chose from who would do BBBJ and with 2 shots.

So the key to getting a pleasant session is to be upfront about your requirements (Be shy at your own expense).

[QUOTE=Peff13;2018249]Tarawadee at Patthanakarn Road and venues near tollway at Rama IX like Catherine or The office.

Thanks, Zauberfee and Syzygies, for these pointers. Tarawadee seems within reach by combining the airport train and some form of wheels. It's happening from around noon time with the next flight around 5 pm, ready with boarding cards and no luggage, so we won't need much time back at the airport.

Will let you know how it went, if at all!

Cheers, & monger on!

Peff.[/QUOTE]There is a hotel in the basement BOXTEL. Call your girl from any of the oilies and pay for their Fees + taxis. I guess that should be 3-4000 bahts for the girl Plus 1000 Bahts for the taxis to and fro. The girl can receive you at the airport and go down to basement. If you want I can talk to one of the mamasan owner for you.

Tonight I went to Merci again. My 2 time repeat V17 for 2,200 Baht was either busy or off for the night. I suspect something has occurred since she has been silent on Line. I can still see her timeline photos so I know I wasn't blocked. Anyhow, it was about 9:00 PM and there was a decent line up of about 15 ladies. A few seemed busy so if I had to guess, about 25 were working in total. I suspect many have headed home a little early to avoid the bad traffic and crowded airports.

This time I chose an S category lady for 2,800 Baht. Nice white skin and spinner type body. She says she is 100% Thai but I suspect Laos. Session started off with a good soapy style bath with lots of body rubbing. A little longer than I would have liked but I still enjoyed it. Unlike my little v17, this girl proceeded with a covered BJ after some foreplay on the bed. I haven't experienced that in a long time but did not feel like pressing the issue. She had an amazing body with nice breasts. In the bath we joked about Tom boys and she said she did not like them. I made the hand signal for DATY and she said she didn't like that either. Back to the story, I did not let that stop me and as she tried to mount me in cowgirl, I flipped her over and dove right in for some beautiful sweet tasting DATY. Despite her earlier story, she did not resist and I suspect her orgasm was real but not as explosive as V17's. After my fill, I mounted her and her pussy was also tight but just not the same as the last lady. After testing out how she would react to FS, I flipped her over for some cowgirl. The site was incredible. I loved seeing her little spinner body grinding away on top and feeling her pirky nippples. Then I flipped her over again into doggy and proceeded to pound home to finish. Great rear end and convincing noises.

Overall I would giver her a 7-8/10 in looks. I will probably repeat one more time to see how much more millege I can get with the good rapport I built. I'm liking the Thai MP scene more and more than the farang scene these days. I suggest you guys to try it out as well.

On a side note. As I was leaving a group of three Thai guys were heading into the big Jacuzzi room with three ladies. I suspect maybe some group action is available and would love to give it a try one of these days with a couple of senior members from the board.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2018395]Tonight I went to Merci again. My 2 time repeat V17 for 2,200 Baht was either busy or off for the night. I suspect something has occurred since she has been silent on Line. I can still see her timeline photos so I know I wasn't blocked. Anyhow, it was about 9:00 PM and there was a decent line up of about 15 ladies. A few seemed busy so if I had to guess, about 25 were working in total. I suspect many have headed home a little early to avoid the bad traffic and crowded airports.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the proper report, Mate! We need more of these in here.

9 pm isn't really my favorite time, does Merci also work well mid-afternoon or very late at night?

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2018685]Thanks for the proper report, Mate! We need more of these in here.

9 pm isn't really my favorite time, does Merci also work well mid-afternoon or very late at night?[/QUOTE]Lady V17 that I reported about last week and I have seen twice, was at about 2 PM each time. Please read a little further back and you read about my thoughts on the lineup. Mid afternoon you will see about 12 ladies on staff.

Got a very satisfactory session with a girl named Poppy at one of my two favorite places, Club 102.

Early afternoon there was a very strong line-up, 16+ girls, with at least 5 that caught my eye. Fortunately there was an Asian guy ahead of me who took his time, so I had a chance to chill and collect visual cues.

The boss Louis introduced Poppy as being "new", which is sort of true, but she sure ain't new to the business. She is the consummate professional. I mean that in a good way.

She looks very pretty, with a sort of triangular face, a dazzling smile (no braces) and long hair. About 1 m59 and 43 kilos. Maybe 26 years old. Fake tits but really nice to look at. No tattoo / piercing. Cheery attitude, but she clearly knows her way around a cock and she makes sure all your needs are attended to.

One thing that stood out was the shower: as she was cleaning my cock, she kept rubbing my balls with soap lather and I just couldn't control my urge to have an erection.

In the sack she was good too. I think her strong suit is doggy style, but she can do a mean Asian cowgirl too. I felt like finishing in missionary so I just did. Gave her 200 Baht tip for her overall performance.

It's nice every once in a while to be with a girl who doesn't make silly mistakes that spoil the mood and the experience, who doesn't neglect her man, and who knows exactly what buttons to push, and when, and how softly or strongly. I would definitely recommend, and I might even repeat, as this places her within my top 3 girls in my Club 102 rotation at the moment. I like sure-fire deals.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2018686]Lady V17 that I reported about last week and I have seen twice, was at about 2 PM each time. Please read a little further back and you read about my thoughts on the lineup. Mid afternoon you will see about 12 ladies on staff.[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry my bad, I read your previous Merci reports when they came out but did not memorize. There's hope that it will be the next Nataree!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2018686]Lady V17 that I reported about last week and I have seen twice, was at about 2 PM each time. Please read a little further back and you read about my thoughts on the lineup. Mid afternoon you will see about 12 ladies on staff.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion, but for Soapies in general, arriving any later than 9 PM is starting to get into non-optimal time, and certainly don't arrive after 11 PM. For most soapies, late afternoon to early evening is the best for a reasonable line up. Merci maybe an exception, based on what BKKDog has written, but a lot of Soapies I went to in the past had rather sparse line ups at 2 PM. 6 PM was way better at most shops.

Still, for me, a line up of 12 girls is a bit too few. I am used to going to places in the old days with at least 20 girls and sometimes 30 to 40 girls. I disliked Nancy, Catherine, Colonze, Colonze 2, La Belle, and Victoria Secret due to the very tiny number of girls in a line up. The rest already booked! La Defense and Amsterdam had bigger line ups. I had got used to larger line ups 20 years ago.

Once it gets to 11PM, in my view you are better off looking in gogo bars or looking for freelancers. I would only try a Soapy at 10PM, if I was already very near, in case of disappointment.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2018685]Thanks for the proper report, Mate! We need more of these in here.

9 pm isn't really my favorite time, does Merci also work well mid-afternoon or very late at night?[/QUOTE]Just my opinion, but for Soapies in general, arriving any later than 9 PM is starting to get into non-optimal time, and certainly don't arrive after 11 PM. For most soapies, late afternoon to early evening is the best for a reasonable line up. Merci maybe an exception, based on what BKKDog has written, but a lot of Soapies I went to in the past had rather sparse line ups at 2 PM. 6 PM was way better at most shops.

Still, for me, a line up of 12 girls is a bit too few. I am used to going to places in the old days with at least 20 girls and sometimes 30 to 40 girls. I disliked Nancy, Catherine, Colonze, Colonze 2, La Belle, and Victoria Secret due to the very tiny number of girls in a line up. The rest already booked! La Defense and Amsterdam had bigger line ups. I had got used to larger line ups 20 years ago.

Once it gets to 11 PM, in my view you are better off looking in gogo bars or looking for freelancers. I would only try a Soapy at 10 PM, if I was already very near, in case of disappointment.

So yesterday I went to visit Tan from Orient massage. I just walked by at about 6 pm And was lucky as she was sitting in front of the shop with some other girls. I had two nice sessions with her on my last trip 6 months ago.

She is around 30 years, although it is very difficult to estimate because she is so petite. I don't believe she has even the 40 kg mentioned on the website. A little bit of Baby damage because she has one kid (8). Her tits were also a little bit saggy, although not much because they are pretty small, except for the nipples which are huge.

I had an agreement with her last time, 500 THB surcharge for A-level. Well inflation has struck, so this time she wanted 700 extra. She is probably the tinyest girl I ever did A-level with, and wow, she took it like a champ. After showering she started right away with BBBJ, then a few minutes of fucking before we changed to A-Level. Went through the usual positions, cowgirl, doggie etc. After the first shot she gave me a nice massage, and then we started the second round, with a lot of A-level again. No complaints about size, although she mentioned it ("small girl big guy" she said laughing). All in all a fun session with a fun and constantly smiling girl, not very much english but non-verbal communication was enough.

Damage was 3 K all in, 2.3 K for the shop and 700 for her. Needless to say that I will see her again, as this was already my 3rd visit. You just don't find that many girls which are so petite and at the same time good at A-level.

Does anyone know where to go for a guaranteed PSE session in Bangkok?

I never tried the Escort scene (smooci) would I more than likely be able to get PSE from a smooci lady?

FYI: Snow White will be closed from 10th to 14th April.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2019400]FYI: Snow White will be closed from 10th to 14th April.[/QUOTE]Thanks much for the head's up. Wonder if any of the PSE shops will be open?

Prompted by the recent reports from Merci, I decided to give the soapy a try. Strangely, as I walked past Nataree, there were two papasans in front. I thought Nataree was closed?

I went into Merci, and the papasan told me and girls 2200, V 2700, S 3300 and and M 4300. I think he screwed me, as I sort of remember reading lower prices in this forum. Oh well, I'll do more research next time.

Anyway, there were at least two S girls who were super sexy: S9 and S22. Papasan recommended S22, so I picked her. Her name is Fa. She is 19 years old and smoking hot. Tattoo on her shoulders, but not bad. Apart from that the perfection you can expect from a nubile 19 years old. Tits smaller than her dress makes them out to be, though.

Weird stuff, in the elevator some cleaning lady pressured me to buy a drink for my lady. I blew her off saying it was already very expensive. But maybe it would have loosened up Fa, what do you guys think?

Fa acted cutely in the room. She used her phone translator to communicate the basics. I asked her the fateful question of whether she was OK to have sex with a Farang, and she said yes. She even had a Farang-size condom at the ready. Later developments confirmed her initial statements.

I let her smoke a cigarette in the room, because I don't care.

Good BBBJ then she got on top of me cowgirl style. She was tight, but it went straight in. Perfect fit. At some point she told me to finish with her. I replied I take my time. No further grief from that end. If she thought I was going to finish quickly, she had no idea what she was getting herself into.

Still, I think she came, because at some point I was in the missionary and she was unhappy that I was flipping her to doggy, because she was really getting herself in the groove, but she managed a convincing orgasm in the doggy position shortly thereafter. These young girls are just so sentimental!

The music from her smart phone was good but after a while it got on my nerves, so I told her to shut it down. I got down to business in earnest, and achieved a strong ejaculation in the doggy. When I opened my eyes, I just looked at her beautiful, slim, flawless hourglass shape, and I said to myself: "this is how the other half live".

On my way back in the MRT, I could not wipe a smile off my face. I even gave my seat to an old lady, if you can imagine that! When I came home Fa had made me so horny that I had to masturbate straight away to Asian porn in her honor. Then I felt ravenous hunger. In the middle of the day.

Now I'm starting to see the point of banging 20-25 year olds who are not starfish. This is better than my favorite oilies Addict and Club 102. Would I recommend? Absolutely! Would I repeat? No, I want to try S9 first.

I need to get up to speed on the pricing, though. I could tell the papasan had many cards with different prices on them depending on the punter. He was completely winging it. I'll have to make sure he does not take me for the same ride again next time. I wonder, when the papasan rips off the customer like he did me, does the girl get a cut, or is the differential all for the papasan?

FYI: Bamboo will be closed from 12th to 15th April.

In the old days, a soapy fishbowl looked like this. Could be even bigger. In modern day, smaller line ups.

2nd pic shows pretty girls. Hard to find a line up that good.

My biggest problem with girls in a seated line up was being able to see how big their thighs and ass were. If too big, I would them out, liking relatively skinny legs girls, even for body slide. Girls in a back row, could easily have thighs totally hidden behind another girl. Annies is the only place I have seen asking girls to stand up, as normal procedure. Sometimes would sit for long time in a Soapy waiting for girls to stand up to go talk on the phone or go to toilet etc. LOL

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2019499]Prompted by the recent reports from Merci, I decided to give the soapy a try. Strangely, as I walked past Nataree, there were two papasans in front. I thought Nataree was closed?

I went into Merci, and the papasan told me and girls 2200, V 2700, S 3300 and and M 4300. I think he screwed me, as I sort of remember reading lower prices in this forum. Oh well, I'll do more research next time.

[/QUOTE]Should be 2800 for an S girl:

[URL]http://www.ilikemassage.com/client/merci/index.php[/URL]

Maybe if you don't speak Thai they charge those prices.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2019499]Prompted by the recent reports from Merci, I decided to give the soapy a try. Strangely, as I walked past Nataree, there were two papasans in front. I thought Nataree was closed?

I went into Merci, and the papasan told me and girls 2200, V 2700, S 3300 and and M 4300. I think he screwed me, as I sort of remember reading lower prices in this forum. Oh well, I'll do more research next time.

Anyway, there were at least two S girls who were super sexy: S9 and S22. Papasan recommended S22, so I picked her. Her name is Fa. She is 19 years old and smoking hot. Tattoo on her shoulders, but not bad. Apart from that the perfection you can expect from a nubile 19 years old. Tits smaller than her dress makes them out to be, though.

Weird stuff, in the elevator some cleaning lady pressured me to buy a drink for my lady. I blew her off saying it was already very expensive. But maybe it would have loosened up Fa, what do you guys think?

Fa acted cutely in the room. She used her phone translator to communicate the basics. I asked her the fateful question of whether she was OK to have sex with a Farang, and she said yes. She even had a Farang-size condom at the ready. Later developments confirmed her initial statements.

I let her smoke a cigarette in the room, because I don't care.

Good BBBJ then she got on top of me cowgirl style. She was tight, but it went straight in. Perfect fit. At some point she told me to finish with her. I replied I take my time. No further grief from that end. If she thought I was going to finish quickly, she had no idea what she was getting herself into.

Still, I think she came, because at some point I was in the missionary and she was unhappy that I was flipping her to doggy, because she was really getting herself in the groove, but she managed a convincing orgasm in the doggy position shortly thereafter. These young girls are just so sentimental!

The music from her smart phone was good but after a while it got on my nerves, so I told her to shut it down. I got down to business in earnest, and achieved a strong ejaculation in the doggy. When I opened my eyes, I just looked at her beautiful, slim, flawless hourglass shape, and I said to myself: "this is how the other half live".

On my way back in the MRT, I could not wipe a smile off my face. I even gave my seat to an old lady, if you can imagine that! When I came home Fa had made me so horny that I had to masturbate straight away to Asian porn in her honor. Then I felt ravenous hunger. In the middle of the day.

Now I'm starting to see the point of banging 20-25 year olds who are not starfish. This is better than my favorite oilies Addict and Club 102. Would I recommend? Absolutely! Would I repeat? No, I want to try S9 first.

I need to get up to speed on the pricing, though. I could tell the papasan had many cards with different prices on them depending on the punter. He was completely winging it. I'll have to make sure he does not take me for the same ride again next time. I wonder, when the papasan rips off the customer like he did me, does the girl get a cut, or is the differential all for the papasan?[/QUOTE]He added 500 on to the real prices unfortunatly. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I tipped my V lady 500 2 times and I tipped 1000 to my S lady. .

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019541]He added 500 on to the real prices unfortunatly. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I tipped my V lady 500 2 times and I tipped 1000 to my S lady. .[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's what I thought. Will try to work this out better next time. But I'll still come back to Merci.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019541]He added 500 on to the real prices unfortunatly. I wouldn't worry too much about it. I tipped my V lady 500 2 times and I tipped 1000 to my S lady. .[/QUOTE]I went to Merci a couple of times last year and never tipped but the girls were perfectly happy. Tipping is a personal choice and is completely different to farang surcharges and papasans ripping you off. That reflects very badly on the establishment and encourages poor attitudes from the girls. The smart-arse English-speaking papasan in Alaine quoted me prices with a 500 baht surcharge. I just left and never went back. Maybe I should've just refused to speak in English and said last time I paid 500 baht less.

[QUOTE=*****man;2019564]I went to Merci a couple of times last year and never tipped but the girls were perfectly happy. Tipping is a personal choice and is completely different to farang surcharges and papasans ripping you off. That reflects very badly on the establishment and encourages poor attitudes from the girls. The smart-arse English-speaking papasan in Alaine quoted me prices with a 500 baht surcharge. I just left and never went back. Maybe I should've just refused to speak in English and said last time I paid 500 baht less.[/QUOTE]I had some of my best experiences at the old Amsterdam and they charge every farang an extra 500 Baht. They have no problem telling you right to your face. It's a personal preference if you are willing to pay it or not. For me, if there's a girl I want and they are asking a certain price, I'll probably pull the trigger. If you get hung up over 500 Baht you can ruin a possible good experience. That's just my opinion.

First visit to Maeksii sounds like (Mack-see or Maxi) special English name Merci.

7 PM Line up a bit thin. 2 girls looked sort of okay Chose V27. Papasan assured me she likes Farangs. A couple of girls cracked some sort of joke, not sure exactly what. Maybe that it is Farangs that typically choose this girl. Forget the name right now. Came from Kanchanaburi. 6 months at this place.

I suppose I sensed something strange, perhaps shyness when went to pay the money. She did not seem to really look at me. In the room slightly disappointed she had sillies. Also nose slightly broader than I first thought. Not really as good looking as bar girls I normally choose. Had no English. No matter. I speak Thai.

Bath went okay Although nothing particularly sexy at all happened. On the bed, things went south very quickly. She probably wanted to give me a massage. No mouth kissing. She was mighty scared for me even to kiss her cheek. Attempted to move south to DATY. She was wriggling around like a monkey, or squirming like a fish out of water, and stiff legs, complaining that absolutely everything was ticklish. Telling her to relax her body and legs was useless.

Never even got to put on a condom or attempt sex. I certainly did not have a hard on. Decided to cancel and not waste any more time as well as wasting the money. Fucking hopeless this girl. Advise to avoid. On way out spotted S22 and N02 who both were slightly prettier, but not close enough to stunning to make me book a 2nd girl. Shit happens, especially often with Soapy girls. No idea why.

I also looked in Emmanuelle, which has been merged with Amsterdam personnel. The line up was bigger, and the girls overall prettier. Way better than my previous visit to Emmanuelle. Prices were more expensive than Merci. Probably two or three quite doable and including Yok (B02) who I have done years ago who had big natural tits. She is probably 30 or close to it now, and has a lopsided smile but still I could do her easily. Liked her quirky character years ago. Very much a fun girl.

I also went to have a look in the Lord and was 8. 30 PM by this time. Line up larger again. Quite a lot of girls, and some very pretty girls. Several would definitely do. Prices higher again. Even the lowest price girl here was 4 K I think. K35 looked naturally stunning and priced about 4800 Baht. Not the only one. Resisted for today, having already blown money. I had previously been to the Lord more than once but never saw a line up good like this before. Have to assume previous visits late afternoon were just too early. This place seems to get going later than most other Soapies.

Doubt I will return to Merci in a hurry. Line up quality just not quite good enough, compared to the nearby competition. I previously liked Amsterdam, so no surprise I like combined Emmanuelle / Amsterdam line up, at least a little bit. I will probably return to The Lord, first preference and try to get lucky with a stunner.

I have never seen a Soapy line up quite as good as The Lord today, not meaning every girl was my taste but definitely a few were. Some girls had a 10K price tag. I would not go that high. Some lower price bracket girls quite pretty enough, to my taste.

Today I could have been at Crazy House and know several girls prettier than at Merci and excellent on the bed. In fact I did call into CH later.

Girl: Cheer.

Age: 37.

Home: Kalasin.

Place: Bamboo.

Price: 2. 000 THB for 1 HR + 500 THB surcharge for anal.

Shots: 1, but more if you can manage.

Body: average face IMHO, 155 cm tall, brown hair, A cup, firm body, nice ass, no notable baby damage.

Room: standard room. Small, a bed, a table, a shower cabin.

Sex: PSE.

Massage: slight B2 B as introduction.

Other: great BBBJ, not much of a kisser, DT, fucked her pussy and her ass in many positions, CIM.

Cheer is a leftover from Mango Massage heydays from 6 to 7 years ago. She was never a great looker, but provided PSE at a high level. That's what Cheer is still doing, although father time took his toll on her. I really like her very good attitude and her bubbly style, but those punters who prefer stunners might shy away.

Girl: Sunny.

Age: late 20's, early 30's.

Home: didn't ask and couldn't remember, maybe Nakhon Phanom.

Place: Snow White.

Price: 1. 900 THB for 1 HR.

Shots: 1, but more if you can manage.

Body: average face IMHO, but always smiling, 155 cm tall, shoulderlong brown hair, A cup, little sagging tits, nice ass, no notable baby damage.

Room: standard room. Small, a bed, a table, a shower cabin.

Sex: full PSE.

Massage: no massage.

Other: DFK, DT, fucked her ass in many positions, barely fucked her pussy, CIM.

Sunny is an average looking girl at best, but she is an awesome fuck, all in on everything. Go for her if you look for REAL PSE, but better skip her if you like a more conventional sexual experience.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2019686]Cheer is a leftover from Mango Massage heydays from 6 to 7 years ago. She was never a great looker, but provided PSE at a high level. That's what Cheer is still doing, although father time took his toll on her. I really like her very good attitude and her bubbly style, but those punters who prefer stunners might shy away.[/QUOTE]Yes I have to agree with this. I could not fault her performance back at Mango, but was just not good looking enough for me, to excite me, for either face or body. However nice girl and could suit those not so looks oriented. I can't even do the famous Dao at Tulip anymore, as was quite underwhelmed at the last session. Others can.

I really am having a lot of difficulty to find many MP girls good enough to keep me repeating these days. Out of last 4 new MP girls tried, only one good enough to repeat really. Probably at the wrong places, although I don't have a PSE requirement. So we all have very different selection criteria.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019574]I had some of my best experiences at the old Amsterdam and they charge every farang an extra 500 Baht. They have no problem telling you right to your face. It's a personal preference if you are willing to pay it or not. For me, if there's a girl I want and they are asking a certain price, I'll probably pull the trigger. If you get hung up over 500 Baht you can ruin a possible good experience. That's just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Wise words! Absolutely agree and I have done the same for years at many MPs.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2019680]First visit to Maeksii sounds like (Mack-see or Maxi) special English name Merci.

7 PM Line up a bit thin. 2 girls looked sort of okay Chose V27. Papasan assured me she likes Farangs. A couple of girls cracked some sort of joke, not sure exactly what. Maybe that it is Farangs that typically choose this girl. Forget the name right now. Came from Kanchanaburi. 6 months at this place.

I suppose I sensed something strange, perhaps shyness when went to pay the money. She did not seem to really look at me. In the room slightly disappointed she had sillies. Also nose slightly broader than I first thought. Not really as good looking as bar girls I normally choose. Had no English. No matter. I speak Thai.

Bath went okay Although nothing particularly sexy at all happened. On the bed, things went south very quickly. She probably wanted to give me a massage. No mouth kissing. She was mighty scared for me even to kiss her cheek. Attempted to move south to DATY. She was wriggling around like a monkey, or squirming like a fish out of water, and stiff legs, complaining that absolutely everything was ticklish. Telling her to relax her body and legs was useless.

Never even got to put on a condom or attempt sex. I certainly did not have a hard on. Decided to cancel and not waste any more time as well as wasting the money. Fucking hopeless this girl. Advise to avoid. On way out spotted S22 and N02 who both were slightly prettier, but not close enough to stunning to make me book a 2nd girl. Shit happens, especially often with Soapy girls. No idea why.[/QUOTE]Sorry you had that shitty experience with the Merci girl. As you have often pointed out, it happens sometimes. Unfortunately, what you described is all too close to the kind of time, money and emotion wasting experience I have had in virtually every one of the nearly two dozen MPs I have tried over the past few years. Maybe I shouldn't even be posting anything at all in an MP thread like this one since that scene is apparently so far away from my style. LOL.

But now that I have, what is your suggestion for what a customer should do having experienced what you did with that ridiculously inappropriately "ticklish" girl who doesn't sound like she ought to even be working in the P4 P industry much less be recommended or assured for her service in any way by a papasan. What did you do in this case? Did you say anything to the papasan about the bad service? Did the girl or the management even bother to ask you why you were aborting the mission so quickly after going behind closed doors with the girl? I don't know if Merci is one of those Pay Upfront MPs, but assume it is, so did that have any bearing on what transpired, if anything, as you made your early exit from the place?

I have had so many disappointing experiences in MPs so far, I really don't know what the best way is to deal with it on the way out. Or whether to bother dealing with it at all. So I am interested in your input here.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2019680]First visit to Maeksii sounds like (Mack-see or Maxi) special English name Merci.

7 PM Line up a bit thin. 2 girls looked sort of okay Chose V27. Papasan assured me she likes Farangs. A couple of girls cracked some sort of joke, not sure exactly what. Maybe that it is Farangs that typically choose this girl. Forget the name right now. Came from Kanchanaburi. 6 months at this place.

I suppose I sensed something strange, perhaps shyness when went to pay the money. She did not seem to really look at me. In the room slightly disappointed she had sillies. Also nose slightly broader than I first thought. Not really as good looking as bar girls I normally choose. Had no English. No matter. I speak Thai.

Bath went okay Although nothing particularly sexy at all happened. On the bed, things went south very quickly. She probably wanted to give me a massage. No mouth kissing. She was mighty scared for me even to kiss her cheek. Attempted to move south to DATY. She was wriggling around like a monkey, or squirming like a fish out of water, and stiff legs, complaining that absolutely everything was ticklish. Telling her to relax her body and legs was useless.

Never even got to put on a condom or attempt sex. I certainly did not have a hard on. Decided to cancel and not waste any more time as well as wasting the money. Fucking hopeless this girl. Advise to avoid. On way out spotted S22 and N02 who both were slightly prettier, but not close enough to stunning to make me book a 2nd girl. Shit happens, especially often with Soapy girls. No idea why.

I also looked in Emmanuelle, which has been merged with Amsterdam personnel. The line up was bigger, and the girls overall prettier. Way better than my previous visit to Emmanuelle. Prices were more expensive than Merci. Probably two or three quite doable and including Yok (B02) who I have done years ago who had big natural tits. She is probably 30 or close to it now, and has a lopsided smile but still I could do her easily. Liked her quirky character years ago. Very much a fun girl.

I also went to have a look in the Lord and was 8. 30 PM by this time. Line up larger again. Quite a lot of girls, and some very pretty girls. Several would definitely do. Prices higher again. Even the lowest price girl here was 4 K I think. K35 looked naturally stunning and priced about 4800 Baht. Not the only one. Resisted for today, having already blown money. I had previously been to the Lord more than once but never saw a line up good like this before. Have to assume previous visits late afternoon were just too early. This place seems to get going later than most other Soapies.

Doubt I will return to Merci in a hurry. Line up quality just not quite good enough, compared to the nearby competition. I previously liked Amsterdam, so no surprise I like combined Emmanuelle / Amsterdam line up, at least a little bit. I will probably return to The Lord, first preference and try to get lucky with a stunner.

I have never seen a Soapy line up quite as good as The Lord today, not meaning every girl was my taste but definitely a few were. Some girls had a 10K price tag. I would not go that high. Some lower price bracket girls quite pretty enough, to my taste.

Today I could have been at Crazy House and know several girls prettier than at Merci and excellent on the bed. In fact I did call into CH later.[/QUOTE]Sorry about your bad luck. You remember I sent you photos of two girls and you commented they were nice. As far as I know, ounwent at their peak time so many ladies were already busy. As I said before, they have those jaquuzi rooms for groups and they are always busy. Next time if you try again, go around 3 PM. Or maybe you could have asked for the number of one of the girls who received good reviews from me and another poster. Anyways, sorry dude. I posted the ladie's numbers for a reason.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019733]Sorry about your bad luck. You remember I sent you photos of two girls and you commented they were nice. As far as I know, ounwent at their peak time so many ladies were already busy. As I said before, they have those jaquuzi rooms for groups and they are always busy. Next time if you try again, go around 3 PM. Or maybe you could have asked for the number of one of the girls who received good reviews from me and another poster. Anyways, sorry dude. I posted the ladie's numbers for a reason.[/QUOTE]I liked one of the girl pics you sent me (VIP), but did not see that girl in Line Up. The other one not quite my spec. I can't guarantee to like same girls. There is the risk. Soapies are always a crap shoot these days. Even got a really bad girl once at Annies, which was a shock. Most Annies girls I ever tried were at least moderately good. I had very few good girls at Nataree. Better luck at Amsterdam which is now at Emmanuelle. The advantage of Merci, is purely cheaper prices, if select the right girl.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2019718]Sorry you had that shitty experience with the Merci girl. As you have often pointed out, it happens sometimes. Unfortunately, what you described is all too close to the kind of time, money and emotion wasting experience I have had in virtually every one of the nearly two dozen MPs I have tried over the past few years. Maybe I shouldn't even be posting anything at all in an MP thread like this one since that scene is apparently so far away from my style. LOL.

But now that I have, what is your suggestion for what a customer should do having experienced what you did with that ridiculously inappropriately "ticklish" girl who doesn't sound like she ought to even be working in the P4 P industry much less be recommended or assured for her service in any way by a papasan. What did you do in this case? Did you say anything to the papasan about the bad service? Did the girl or the management even bother to ask you why you were aborting the mission so quickly after going behind closed doors with the girl? I don't know if Merci is one of those Pay Upfront MPs, but assume it is, so did that have any bearing on what transpired, if anything, as you made your early exit from the place?

I have had so many disappointing experiences in MPs so far, I really don't know what the best way is to deal with it on the way out. Or whether to bother dealing with it at all. So I am interested in your input here.[/QUOTE]I have had so many disappointing MP experiences as well. When I find a good girl that really appeals, I tend to stick to her. I know girls at Mango, Snow White, Tulip, etc. Should be generally good, but very hard to find a looker there. So as I commented before, tried a girl like Cheer, and service was good, but looks just not doing it for me.

My last regular Soapy girl at Amsterdam disappeared about 2 years ago. Never found a replacement.

At least 2 of my good Soapy girls that I repeated many times, in the past, eventually dropped off being really good. They became more dick scared over time. Just wanted a quick easy fuck. Did not want to get their rocks off any more. Hard to understand the attitude changes. To me, the whole Soapy industry declined much more than bar girls declined, due to excessive surgeries, and preferring Asian customers perhaps. The Lord has some stunning girls but if costs 6400 for a K level stunner, I am baulking at that. I think The Lord prices started at 4200 (which may include farang surcharge).

I had found a good girl at New Massage with great tits, but last visit she had just returned from an absence due to pussy problem, and even she had suddenly become dick scared after previously being good for me. I did not even cause her pussy damage, so seemed unfair.

I do believe not every guy is going to like the same thing. Some guys loved Nataree. I did not. Finding great enthusiastic service in MPs is not completely easy if you also want great looks. Found a very pretty faced girl in an Oily the other day, but on the bed we were not as totally compatible as I would like. Maybe her pussy was just a bit too tight or wrong shape.

For combination of looks and a good fun time, I still find bar girls the easier way to go. My success rate in choosing bar girls has improved, where my success rate choosing Soapy girls declined over the years. Also found the free lancer selection to be very hit and miss. My last few girls from Twisters, Billboard, Mercury, Candyland, Crazy House, Suzie Wong have all been good. No complete duds. Last starfish type from a bar would have been DollHouse and that was well over a year ago, maybe two years ago, unless my memory has wiped out some girl.

I still dislike having to select girls without being able to see their bodies properly. A nudie bar is a big plus for me, or at least having some topless girls.

Its all a bit depressing. My mongering levels have dropped off in general. It's easier just to contact my list of regular girls on LINE App, regardless of where they came from.

My ideal is a stunner that is very keen and passionate, and loves cock, not necessarily immensely skilled. LOL Not easy to find that, in MPs and still at a good price.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2019686]Girl: Cheer.

Age: 37.

Home: Kalasin.

Place: Bamboo.

Price: 2. 000 THB for 1 HR + 500 THB surcharge for anal.

Shots: 1, but more if you can manage.

Body: average face IMHO, 155 cm tall, brown hair, A cup, firm body, nice ass, no notable baby damage.

Room: standard room. Small, a bed, a table, a shower cabin.

Sex: PSE.

Massage: slight B2 B as introduction.

Other: great BBBJ, not much of a kisser, DT, fucked her pussy and her ass in many positions, CIM.

Cheer is a leftover from Mango Massage heydays from 6 to 7 years ago. She was never a great looker, but provided PSE at a high level. That's what Cheer is still doing, although father time took his toll on her. I really like her very good attitude and her bubbly style, but those punters who prefer stunners might shy away.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this is when I realize the MP scene might not be for me, although I wish it were. The idea of it sounds great; you walk in, choose a girl, she does all these great sexy things for you. But it just never turns out that way for me. LOL.

I tried Cheer at Bamboo Massage about 2 years ago based on all the "sure thing!", "great PSE" buzz about her from several guys in the know on these kinds of websites. Unfortunately, it was one of my MP experiences among several where I had to Abort the Mission within about 20 minutes and just leave. So mechanical, so by-the-numbers, utterly lacking in eroticism, apparently incapable of altering her auto-pilot pace no matter how often I gently asked her to, for the love of god, please do so. I was willing to accept her looks not being anywhere near her website pics. Reluctantly. But assumed her skills would be of such a high quality for this kind of venue it would be worth it. Maybe they were of high quality for this type of venue. But it wasn't worth me having to endure it as long as 30 of the 90 minutes I paid for. So, I'm still looking and hoping to discover what in the world is the attraction for the girls and the set-up in these venues.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2020348]
I tried Cheer at Bamboo Massage about 2 years ago based on all the "sure thing!", "great PSE" buzz about her from several guys in the know on these kinds of websites. Unfortunately, it was one of my MP experiences among several where I had to Abort the Mission within about 20 minutes and just leave. So mechanical, so by-the-numbers, utterly lacking in eroticism, apparently incapable of altering her auto-pilot pace no matter how often I gently asked her to, for the love of god, please do so.[/QUOTE]I was wasn't one of the reviewers cheering her. I reported no repeat for me, when she was at Mango. I guess it wasn't ordinary looks alone. I was underwhelmed one way or another. I didn't cancel. I just wasn't very enthused by it all. Hard to remember my feelings precisely so long later.

What PSE guys recommend is not necessarily for you or me, and also visa versa. I like most of Natty Bumpo's girls reasonably well although I feel his taste is a little broader than mine. He is also not selecting for PSE.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2020348]I tried Cheer at Bamboo Massage about 2 years ago based on all the "sure thing!", "great PSE" buzz about her from several guys in the know on these kinds of websites. Unfortunately, it was one of my MP experiences among several where I had to Abort the Mission within about 20 minutes and just leave. So mechanical, so by-the-numbers, utterly lacking in eroticism, apparently incapable of altering her auto-pilot pace no matter how often I gently asked her to, for the love of god, please do so. I was willing to accept her looks not being anywhere near her website pics. Reluctantly. But assumed her skills would be of such a high quality for this kind of venue it would be worth it. Maybe they were of high quality for this type of venue. But it wasn't worth me having to endure it as long as 30 of the 90 minutes I paid for. [/QUOTE]I took Cheers for a session back in September and I had a really good time with her! Nowhere anywhere was it a by-the-numbers script because it went all over the place and felt spontaneous.

Gents, I've been RTFF on Emmanuelle after my previous experience at Merci in order to get some pricing info so as not to suffer the same 500 Baht Papasan scam surcharge.

I found a legit-looking website for Emmanuelle:

[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Emmanuelle/modelplace.php?id=002[/URL]

The URL seems a bit off, but the content appears convincing. Do you guys think this is the official website for Emmanuelle, especially in terms of rates and ladies? They acknowledge the 500 Baht Farang surcharge upfront, so at least they're honest.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2020529]Gents, I've been RTFF on Emmanuelle after my previous experience at Merci in order to get some pricing info so as not to suffer the same 500 Baht Papasan scam surcharge.

I found a legit-looking website for Emmanuelle:

[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Emmanuelle/modelplace.php?id=002[/URL]

The URL seems a bit off, but the content appears convincing. Do you guys think this is the official website for Emmanuelle, especially in terms of rates and ladies? They acknowledge the 500 Baht Farang surcharge upfront, so at least they're honest.[/QUOTE]Yes that is the correct pricing. Notice the Farang Surcharge actually varies between 400 for B course, and 600 for most others.

When I went there, there was only one B course girl B02 Yok, who I have done several times years ago. Obviously a slightly older girl (maybe 30 or so), but had very curvy figure with big tits. I believe I posted a pic of her showing the tits many years back. Not at all fat though. I recommend her if you don't mind a quirky lop sided smile, and don't need extra young girls. I don't believe there were any and girls, was mostly, S level, M level, and higher. So at my recent visit I simply should have taken Yok at 2600 Baht as the cheapest option available, instead of move on to get a hopeless girl at Merci.

Hardly believe it but I found the old post showing Yok's figure nearly 10 years ago (she has changed number from B19 to B02) very good curves and tits at that time (but still looks good last week):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2883-2007-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors&p=687095&viewfull=1#post687095[/url]
That was pretty much the perfect body for me, although I have seen slightly superior tits on very young girls.

I thought at least 3 or 4 girls were prettier than the Merci line up girls, but more expensive. Have to remember Emmanuelle is now the Soapy merged with Amsterdam staff. This has caused the line up to go up a step or two in quality. The mamasan that spoke to me was very nice, and she had previously been at Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020540]
When I went there, there was only one B course girl B02 Yok, who I have done several times years ago. Obviously a slightly older girl (maybe 30 or so), but had very curvy figure with big tits. I believe I posted a pic of her showing the tits many years back. Not at all fat though. I recommend her if you don't mind a quirky lop sided smile, and don't need extra young girls. I don't believe there were any and girls, was mostly, S level, M level, and higher. So at my recent visit I simply should have taken Yok at 2600 Baht as the cheapest option available, instead of move on to get a hopeless girl at Merci.
[/QUOTE]Found another old post that shows that while the prices have risen for some girl categories, B level girls were same price 2600 baht 9+ years ago (with Farang surcharge included). The girls got older, and body did not improve so I suppose that is a countermeasure against inflation.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2883-2007-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors&p=661968&viewfull=1[/URL]#post661968.

Well, as you can imagine, I had to check Emmanuelle for myself. Mid-afternoon, strong line-up 15+, at least 3 bangable. Mamasan shows me price card no relation with any of my research on this August forum. I pick S69, natural tits, 20-25 years old, from Isaan, not short. Not slim but not fat, I would say pretty normal. Fairly white skin. I would say not an expert on Farangs, but willing and able to acquire more first-hand knowledge. Damage 3700 for 1 h30 which turned into 1 h10. Room had a leaky roof that rained all over me when I showered by myself at the end after the deed.

Anyway, the girl was fine. It was just the usual, but she was sexy. Normally I take 5+ positions to generate a satisfactory ejaculation, but she completely got me on a simple missionary / doggy / cowgirl routine. So she's not exactly lacking talent. One thing I didn't like is that she likes DATY and I don't like that. I did it anyway just out of a twist from the usual routine, and to see if I'd kept up my tongue skills. Turns out I hadn't, because I didn't feel her come. Maybe it's because she forbade me from inserting a finger inside her pussy at the same time, which is an essential part of my technique.

But anyway. I liked the 1 h30 time frame, which made things much less hurried. I didn't like the dilapidated facilities. I liked the girl. I don't think the price-to-quality ratio works for me. I can't see how they can compete with a 1 h30 Jacuzzi with Nuru at an upper scale oily like Addict or Club 102, which is basically 1000 Baht cheaper with similar line-up mid-afternoon.

Also the mamasan angling for a tip, and the cleaning lady angling for me buying a drink, I just find a bit useless. Plus the whole uncertainty over whether I'me being scammed for S girls or whatever letter really annoys me. Do I regret S69? No. Would I repeat Emmanuelle? Only if I get to bored with the rest.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2020615]Well, as you can imagine, I had to check Emmanuelle for myself. Mid-afternoon, strong line-up 15+, at least 3 bangable. Mamasan shows me price card no relation with any of my research on this August forum. I pick S69, natural tits, 20-25 years old, from Isaan, not short. Not slim but not fat, I would say pretty normal. Fairly white skin. I would say not an expert on Farangs, but willing and able to acquire more first-hand knowledge. Damage 3700 for 1 h30 which turned into 1 h10. Room had a leaky roof that rained all over me when I showered by myself at the end after the deed.

Anyway, the girl was fine. It was just the usual, but she was sexy. Normally I take 5+ positions to generate a satisfactory ejaculation, but she completely got me on a simple missionary / doggy / cowgirl routine. So she's not exactly lacking talent. One thing I didn't like is that she likes DATY and I don't like that. I did it anyway just out of a twist from the usual routine, and to see if I'd kept up my tongue skills. Turns out I hadn't, because I didn't feel her come. Maybe it's because she forbade me from inserting a finger inside her pussy at the same time, which is an essential part of my technique.

But anyway. I liked the 1 h30 time frame, which made things much less hurried. I didn't like the dilapidated facilities. I liked the girl. I don't think the price-to-quality ratio works for me. I can't see how they can compete with a 1 h30 Jacuzzi with Nuru at an upper scale oily like Addict or Club 102, which is basically 1000 Baht cheaper with similar line-up mid-afternoon.

Also the mamasan angling for a tip, and the cleaning lady angling for me buying a drink, I just find a bit useless. Plus the whole uncertainty over whether I'me being scammed for S girls or whatever letter really annoys me. Do I regret S69? No. Would I repeat Emmanuelle? Only if I get to bored with the rest.[/QUOTE]3700 does seem pricey for an S level girl. Maybe that web site prices are not correct any more, due to amalgamation with Amsterdam, or something else is going on. You did not take Nuru right?

I now see the website is well out of date:

[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php[/URL]

Since Bangkok Cozy closed long ago and Amsterdam recently closed, and Colonze 2 and 4 got renamed to Ocean and The Office.

I have not experienced scams at Amsterdam or Emmanuelle before but certainly the Farang surcharge has always been there. Caesar across the road though was attempting to charge up to double the normal price for Farangs, 10 years ago, which I assumed was a scam. Utopia (sister club to La Belle) used to have a 1500 baht Farang surcharge.

Very well known scamming places of the past were: Cupidy, J One, and Mona Lisa, although I managed to get fair prices at J One and Mona Lisa most of the time. Occassionally if a papasan attempted the scam when my normal papasan was not there, I was forced to leave. When I told them what I normally paid at same MP, sometimes they would say that was impossible. LOL.

In Soapies, you have to pay a high premium for getting the stunning girls, which can make it close to Escort prices. At least you sort of see what you are getting. Whether it is worth it depends on the guy and the girl.

Right now one of my bargirls is preferring to me privately, as she only works the bar part time. So this can be good for me saving BF and drinks at a bar. I may use the Soapy girls though when I am feeling rich. Special occasion.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020625]3700 does seem pricey for an S level girl. Maybe that web site prices are not correct any more, due to amalgamation with Amsterdam, or something else is going on. You did not take Nuru right?[/QUOTE]Good question, and the answer is: no, I did not take Nuru. Glad you confirmed 3700 for S seems pricey.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020625]I now see the website is well out of date:
[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, OK, then we can just all scrap the website. Valuable to know it's crap and uninformative, though.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2020625]Right now one of my bargirls is preferring to me privately, as she only works the bar part time. So this can be good for me saving BF and drinks at a bar. I may use the Soapy girls though when I am feeling rich. Special occasion.[/QUOTE]I don't like to have a good regular girl, I like to have a regular provider of good girls. So you and I are slightly in a different line of business. Nonetheless, I don' t like to get screwed either. To be more precise: I like to screw, but I don't like my wallet to get screwed unnecessarily! So from my narrow-minded point of view, at the present time I think the best oilies strictly dominate the best soapies. There used to be a time where you could get at Nataree a high quality of tail, she may do the starfish on you but take your chance. That quality of young tail you could not get anywhere else; but that time is gone, and the market forces have equalized.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2020615]I pick S69, natural tits, 20-25 years old, from Isaan, not short. Not slim but not fat, I would say pretty normal. Fairly white skin.[/QUOTE]I think I've seen her before, sounds familiar based on the description but I think multiple girls that work there look like that. Hard to tell. Was she kind of tall (certainly tall for a Thai girl) and thick, sort of muscular, in particular very thick legs / thighs? Oh and did she wear one of those gold-metal casio watches?

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2020659]I think I've seen her before, sounds familiar based on the description but I think multiple girls that work there look like that. Hard to tell. Was she kind of tall (certainly tall for a Thai girl) and thick, sort of muscular, in particular very thick legs / thighs? Oh and did she wear one of those gold-metal casio watches?[/QUOTE]Yes to everything except the watch. I have no memory for Thai girls' watches, so I'm literally the worst person to ask, could have gone either way, or she may even have changed watch. But the body description was spot on.

I just thought she chose the number (S) 69 because she liked a good DATY to get her into the mood.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2020652]
I don't like to have a good regular girl, I like to have a regular provider of good girls. So you and I are slightly in a different line of business. Nonetheless, I don' t like to get screwed either. To be more precise: I like to screw, but I don't like my wallet to get screwed unnecessarily! So from my narrow-minded point of view, at the present time I think the best oilies strictly dominate the best soapies. There used to be a time where you could get at Nataree a high quality of tail, she may do the starfish on you but take your chance. That quality of young tail you could not get anywhere else; but that time is gone, and the market forces have equalized.[/QUOTE]I am very risk averse. So I like to fuck girls I have done before, with significantly lower risk of disappointment. You can collect sufficient repeat girls to be not so boring. Like I am intending to repeat some girls I have only done once before. Important to start keeping notes on every girl since my memory of all the details is not as good as once was.

Like Eih T, I find new MP girls are risky. They might not want to kiss, might not want DATY, wriggle around too much, stiff legs, dick scared, etc. Or in many Oily the risk of not finding satisfactory looks. The body underneath the clothes can be unexpected too. Same risk for freelancers. Maybe many are not desperate to get repeat business. I concede certain shops like Tulip, you hardly ever get a weak service, although did happen once, years ago. Can't recall the girl name now.

Other guys may have a very high success rate with MP girls. Either they are far more charming than me, or don't have same requirements. Bargirls seem hornier after a few drinks. I have better success rate with bar girls, maybe because of significant time spent chatting and drinking with them first. If they become frisky enough to tell me how much they like cock, it's a good sign. However Oily MP girls and freelancers tend to be cheaper. Hot girls for both looks and service can be found in MPs, but much harder for me.

[QUOTE=Danibbler;2020446]I took Cheers for a session back in September and I had a really good time with her! Nowhere anywhere was it a by-the-numbers script because it went all over the place and felt spontaneous.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have no doubt she behaved that way with you. I rarely doubt any reviewer's description on this or similar sites of how a girl behaved with them. I just don't think that aspect of a review ever relates to the way a girl will behave with me or the next guy. And that goes both ways, good and bad descriptions. I tend to believe certain technical elements like whether or not a girl allowed DFK, CIM and things like that will carry over to me or the next customer. But as far as her attitude, pace, demeanor, chemistry with the reviewer and things like that? Not so much.

In the case of Cheer, I probably would have chosen her from the sit-down line-up I got at Bamboo even if I hadn't read any of the generally very positive reviews I'd read about her on these sites. She was clearly the most smiley, perky and interested one in the group, really seemed to want me to choose her vs the rather dull demeanor of the other girls at the time. At that point I was only vaguely sure that was the Cheer I'd seen pics of on their website because she looked so different, but kind of similar in the face. But chatting and exchanging names on the way to the room clinched it. I felt I had tried to be as positive and fun as we got to the room as she was in the line-up. However, the moment she came back to our room with her little kit it was all by rote, all business, even down to a rather strained smile because she knew she was supposed to do that and making sure she placed this hand and that one here and there after having done so a million times before. I might as well have been passing through the TSA security gate at DM Airport.

But I don't blame Cheer for that. I put it down more to what happens in an MP vs what happens in a go-go bar, where I seem to have much greater success in getting what I really want in a ST / LT session than many of the reviewers I read on these kinds of sites. Kind of the exact opposite of what happens for me in an MP. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2020348]Yeah, this is when I realize the MP scene might not be for me, although I wish it were. The idea of it sounds great; you walk in, choose a girl, she does all these great sexy things for you. But it just never turns out that way for me. LOL.[/QUOTE]YMMV applies everywhere and at any time. Not only for you but for any of us.

I had the same experience a couple of years ago, with Apple, a highly praised girl from Cherry Massage at that time. She got tons of great reviews but somehow I didn't get along with her. It happens, just get over it and fuck the next girl.

As for my meeting with Cheer, I knew her since she worked at Mango and booked her 2 or 3 times already and we had a good time together back then. So she maybe might have remembered me.

Does anyone know which venues are open for Songkran, and on what days?

I'm particularly interested in PSE spots (Tulip, Snow White, Cherry) and BJ bars (Star of Light, Som's Haven).

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2020914]Does anyone know which venues are open for Songkran, and on what days?

I'm particularly interested in PSE spots (Tulip, Snow White, Cherry) and BJ bars (Star of Light, Som's Haven).[/QUOTE]Zauberfee already announced some closures. RTFF. Click on Zauberfee, then click on view his posts. He is doing a good job providing info on girls and MPs.

Always collect a few girls contacts just in case everything is closed. Not everyone goes away for Songkran. May not appeal to you, but remember the slogan "Annies almost never closes". Something will be open.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2020914]Does anyone know which venues are open for Songkran, and on what days?

I'm particularly interested in PSE spots (Tulip, Snow White, Cherry) and BJ bars (Star of Light, Som's Haven).[/QUOTE]They are closed and the dates have been posted in all the massage forums recently. Please read. Your best bet is bars, Soi Cowboy, and Nana Plaza. Merci will be open on Ratchada and I suspect other venues on Ratchada will also be open but I can't confirm without calling.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2020914] and BJ bars (Star of Light, Som's Haven).[/QUOTE]Kasalong will be open. Perhaps that is an indicator for the others too.

Went mid-afternoon, strong line-up maybe 15+ girls with a sufficient number to my taste. I picked Yuri, a tiny little thing from Bangkok with white skin, natural tits, max 40 kilos, young and not very experienced. I asked her if she was OK to go with Farang because I feared the worst, but she was OK. Overall not super pro-active, so you pretty much have to take charge and tell her what to do and when. But she's very compliant. And enthusiastic. I fingered her as she was blowing me and she was very wet. She can't even put a goddam condom on properly, but once the dick is in she's a roller. Her body was flawless, unless you like big natural tits and tall muscular girls. Face equally as pretty. Her English was crap, but at this point who cares.

I took the Jacuzzi 1 h30 option, and after 1 h20 she pretty much threw me out the door. Maybe she budgeted 10 minutes for me to walk down 2 flights of stairs? Still better than Emmanuelle, where the 1 h30 session lasted 1 h10. Also the facilities are much nicer. And I would say the line-up is pretty much indistinguishable.

I don't think Yuri is going to last, some Japanese guy is going to pick her up and put her in an apartment where she has nothing to do all day except open her legs to him every once in a while, and she earns the same as she's earning now. But I hope she lasts at Club 102 as long as possible, and in the meantime I highly recommend her if you're into spinners. I may repeat depending on who else is in the line-up. It seems to change all the time!

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2021026] Her body was flawless, unless you like big natural tits and tall muscular girls. Face equally as pretty. Her English was crap, but at this point who cares.

I took the Jacuzzi 1 h30 option, and after 1 h20 she pretty much threw me out the door. Maybe she budgeted 10 minutes for me to walk down 2 flights of stairs? Still better than Emmanuelle, where the 1 h30 session lasted 1 h10. Also the facilities are much nicer. And I would say the line-up is pretty much indistinguishable.
[/QUOTE]That is a puzzling approach, saying what the girl is not. Then face equally pretty as? We have to deduce the opposite? Obviously not since earlier you said natural tits. O.K. I am guessing you mean the tits are damn pretty but not very big?

I do like tall girls with big naturals. However I also take short girls with small tits. As long as they aren't fat, and also not on steroids to build ridiculous muscles.

I guess I had better have another look there as line up wasn't very impressive the time I attended. I did not see any pretty girls with good bodies. My one visit was disappointing.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2021066]That is a puzzling approach, saying what the girl is not. Then face equally pretty as? We have to deduce the opposite? Obviously not since earlier you said natural tits. O.K. I am guessing you mean the tits are damn pretty but not very big?

I do like tall girls with big naturals. However I also take short girls with small tits. As long as they aren't fat, and also not on steroids to build ridiculous muscles.

I guess I had better have another look there as line up wasn't very impressive the time I attended. I did not see any pretty girls with good bodies. My one visit was disappointing.[/QUOTE]Yeah sorry, I didn't mean to puzzle. If you like short girls with small, pretty tits then she's very cute. Not fat and not on steroids. Face is pretty too.

To be more descriptive, I was just trying to say that she's pretty much the opposite of the archetype of the tall girl with big naturals.

I found the line-up to be strong early to mid afternoon. After that there are so many punters in the rooms upstairs with their favorite girls that there may be more variance as to availability. One more observation is from one day to another day the line-up changes almost 80%, so it's worth sampling at regular intervals. These people are pretty professional, so if you don't fancy anyone you are always free to walk out without opening your wallet.

After a couple of years I found my way back again to Mango Massage. Arrived there at about noon time and could choose among 8 to 10 girls. None stunning, none gruesome, a decent lineup.

Girl: Bee.

Age: 39 (her own words again, in daylight without make up she might even look older than that).

Home: Loei.

Place: Mango Massage.

Price: 1. 900 THB for 1 HR.

Shots: 1.

Body: 155 cm tall, shoulderlong brown hair, silicone enhanced be+ cup, tiny and firm body (especially if you consider her age), wears braces, no notable baby damage.

Room: standard room. Small, a bed, a table, a shower cabin.

Sex: PSE.

Massage: very nice B2 B massage with a lot of oil, Bee definitely knows how to use her body to stimulate you.

Other: great BBBJ, decent kisser, fucked her pussy in many positions, CIM.

Once again a mature girl provides very good service at a PSE massage shop. I really liked the combination of B2 B oil massage and high quality sex, I wish this concept would be offered more often. Not much too add beyond that.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2021083]
To be more descriptive, I was just trying to say that she's pretty much the opposite of the archetype of the tall girl with big naturals.
[/QUOTE]I met a skinny tall girl with big naturals in Twisters. Unfortunately she did not want to fuck me, scared of Farang dick. I could have been saved from very saggy tits, I don't know, as were held up by a push up bra, looking a bit on the non firm side. Anyway tall girls with big naturals are hard to come by. I would like to meet a few if they can be pretty as well. My only girl with big naturals lately (Ccup) was quite short.

Addict had a decent line-up, although much more impressive when I left after the deed was done (isn't that always the case?

I picked a girl named Fanta who is pretty much like her picture on the Addict website. Spinner type, great body, only a cute piercing in her navel. Face OK, I think she could get advice on her haircut. I booked Jacuzzi 1 h30.

Inside the jacuzzi was good. She touched me under the water covered with foam, so I could not see but I could feel. Very sexy. Unlike the last-reviewed girl at Club 102, Fanta is well trained and you don't need to tell her how to do her job. She's also been in the business longer.

Afterwards I learnt my lesson about time constraint so I just skipped the massage. She was a bit shocked but she was game, so she oiled up her tits and starting giving a no-hand massage on the exposed part of my anatomy. She had a great butt, and the way it was arching up got me very interested, so I started fingering her. I'd done a bit of that in the jacuzzi too, but at that point I went in earnest. I must have done it quite well, because she started looking all hot and bothered. The ultimate test is that she let me in deep and fast.

I decided to capitalize and told her to put on the condom. First time I skip a BJ. Then she just flipped and motioned for me to bang her missionary, which I usually take as a good sign. I banged her relentlessy in that position, and she seemed to enjoy herself.

I tried to shift to the spoon, but that wasn't what she wanted, so I reverted back to missionary, and got so excited by her (convincing) passion that I shot my load. Afterwards she just lay next to me, pretty much sleeping.

All in all, this felt like real sex. I gave her a tip for giving so much of herself. If she does it for everyone she won't last in this business emotionally. We had a good connection, but the key was the fingering. It took the interaction completely outside the normal script.

Would I repeat? Maybe. There would be even more comfort next time. Would I recommend? This was a YMMV experience, so not sure, but she has a great petite body and she knows her way around a jacuzzi and a bed, so she's a solid prospect.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2021424]Would I repeat? Maybe. There would be even more comfort next time. Would I recommend? This was a YMMV experience, so not sure, but she has a great petite body and she knows her way around a jacuzzi and a bed, so she's a solid prospect.[/QUOTE]Why only maybe, is that just because you normally don't repeat girls? Or because you criticised her haircut and she did not like spoon position? Her look is not my type, but you must have liked her look.

Normally if I say a girl is maybe repeat, that means she is pretty ordinary and only if I am desperate and cannot find anything better would I repeat. Don't understand the "comfort" comment. YMMV is something that always applies, I think. We can never predict if girl will have good chemistry with another customer from just one guy's sample. You don't really seem to make it very clear what weaknesses she had if any. Maybe I don't have the intuition to guess some hidden meanings?

Girls on the Addict website, I potentially might go for would be Frame, New, Mena, assuming girl looks at all like the pic. Pics of JJ look faintly like the old JJ may have come back again. Not certain though. She wasn't stunning but gave a really excellent 69 and was quite enthusiastic fuck, body was a 7. 5 and face a 6. The two pics of JJ don't even look like they are of the same girl. LOL One reminds of the JJ I met. The other doesn't. That is confusing. I will have to go look see I guess. Last time I visited they had a different JJ that did not look like either of the 2 pics. Even more confusing.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2021026]Went mid-afternoon, strong line-up maybe 15+ girls with a sufficient number to my taste. I picked Yuri, a tiny little thing from Bangkok with white skin, natural tits, max 40 kilos, young and not very experienced. I asked her if she was OK to go with Farang because I feared the worst, but she was OK. Overall not super pro-active, so you pretty much have to take charge and tell her what to do and when. But she's very compliant. And enthusiastic. I fingered her as she was blowing me and she was very wet. She can't even put a goddam condom on properly, but once the dick is in she's a roller. Her body was flawless, unless you like big natural tits and tall muscular girls. Face equally as pretty. Her English was crap, but at this point who cares.

I took the Jacuzzi 1 h30 option, and after 1 h20 she pretty much threw me out the door. Maybe she budgeted 10 minutes for me to walk down 2 flights of stairs? Still better than Emmanuelle, where the 1 h30 session lasted 1 h10. Also the facilities are much nicer. And I would say the line-up is pretty much indistinguishable.[/QUOTE]The reason why she rushed you at the end is because the 3 Foreign owners really come down hard on the girls if they finish their sessions late or too close to the ending time, so finishing a little early assures there's no trouble. My lady was really scared when talking about it. I was also refused a two hour booking and was not told why. It's advertised on the website and in the shop on the price list. I was forced into the 90 minute option and Jaquzzi room for 2,900. There were about 30 ladies inside the lobby with all three foreign managers there. They were all talking and talking up a storm. If I had to guess, all three are Russian. This kind of put me off because the lobby was like Grand Central Station during rush hour but I was the only customer. Too much going on for me and not very professional behavior by the management. As for my session, I will agree with Eric so no reason to write a similar report. I would maybe repeat if it were in a different shop. I really don't like the foreign managers and the way they talk to customers and treat their staff. I really don't feel comfortable walking into such a chaotic lobby and environment when visiting an MP. 1 or 2 punters and a line up is fine, but when you have the foreign owners running around the lobby, barking orders rudely and talking loudly, it's not a good sign. These guys are too rude, obnoxious and arrogant so I'm sure they won't last. They will get themselves into trouble real quick with the Thai authorities. Punters like myself like a little bit of discreetness and somehow that was lacking with all the commotion. I also did not get a good look at the quality of the line up because I wanted to get out of that lobby and up to the room as fast as possible so I can only comment on the numbers. Thank god I had an advanced booking.

In the end, I tipped my lady 1,000 Baht. Not necessarily for good service but more because I felt sorry for this young sweet girl for having to work in a place like that with owners like that.

Service: 7/10.

Looks: 8/10.

Rooms: 9/10.

Line up: unknown.

Management / Customer Service: 2/10.

Repeat at Club 102: not on your life!
Repeat with the girl: 100% in a different shop.

Reminds me of Nataree in some ways. I always got the impression that they were hard-core mafia, I would see muscle clearly standing at the door just looking ready to beat someone up, not sure who though. And the papasan would ring the girls by the neck, grope their tits very aggressively and some of the girls sitting nearby would be shock / terror when witnessing this.

One thing I dislike is when the owners are dating the girls who work at a shop. It makes the p4 p arrangement slightly awkward for the girl and uncomfortable. Much better when the place is professionally ran and you don't have the owners fraternizing with the goods. I rather not walk in on something personal, especially when it's my money. But if they are training the girls (most Thai girls needs help in giving a good BJ) that's okay. If they are hanging out in their shop all day like a customer, no thanks.

Need help guys! I'll have a 7 hrs transit in Suvarnabhumi from 11 am - 6 pm and I want to have a 90' soapie in Huai Khwang before I leave so should I take the cab or train? How do I get there, I mean the parlors on Ratchadapidesek Road? Someone please give me direction so I can go there have some fun and make it back to the airport in time.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2021843]Reminds me of Nataree in some ways. I always got the impression that they were hard-core mafia, I would see muscle clearly standing at the door just looking ready to beat someone up, not sure who though. And the papasan would ring the girls by the neck, grope their tits very aggressively and some of the girls sitting nearby would be shock / terror when witnessing this.

One thing I dislike is when the owners are dating the girls who work at a shop. It makes the p4 p arrangement slightly awkward for the girl and uncomfortable. Much better when the place is professionally ran and you don't have the owners fraternizing with the goods. I rather not walk in on something personal, especially when it's my money. But if they are training the girls (most Thai girls needs help in giving a good BJ) that's okay. If they are hanging out in their shop all day like a customer, no thanks.[/QUOTE]I never got the same vibe at Nataree like I got at Club 102. There was no feeling of a Mafia presence, just stupidity at its best.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2021836] I was also refused a two hour booking and was not told why. It's advertised on the website and in the shop on the price list. I was forced into the 90 minute option and Jaquzzi room for 2,900. [/QUOTE]Not sure why you would be forced to take a Jacuzzi room. In all likelihood, you were not permitted a 2 hour booking as the girl may have had a subsequent booking in 2 hours, and meeting that booking time would be too difficult.

In MPs I often find that when a girl is already busy, they don't want me to book the next session, within 30 minutes of the previous session finishing. However I find I can show up early and take the girl earlier than my booking time. She may well have come out of previous booking 40 minutes before my booking.

I only met the one Farang staff member when I was there, and he seemed to have a French accent, however most of the prettier faced girls were too thick for me. I say most, because obviously the best girls can be busy and not in the line up at that time. I possibly arrived just a bit later than optimal.

It does not really appeal to me, when manager is a Farang or Japanese. I just assume they will be incompetent. However in Soapies some Thai papasans can be excessively annoying, when trying to rush customers to make a choice.

Actually I never got a great vibe from most Nataree girls in the past too. Many were highly controlled and money for the session not going to them, instead going to the manager. The manager would provide the girl accommodation, transport, food, etc. But not much freedom. Maybe very small pocket money, until the high debt was paid off. Not all girls perhaps, but a good portion of them. Then there were other problems, such as not Thai citizens, and the unmentionable ones, etc. I found that the older girls in the fishtank had a more relaxed attitude and were better in the room. It's conceivable I just had a lot of bad luck at Nataree. The percentage of girls I ever repeated from there would be less than 20%. Most of them were timid, inexperienced to hopeless, and some scared of Farangs. I prefer places where girls are very used to Farangs. Speaking Thai is not enough.

[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2021908]Need help guys! I'll have a 7 hrs transit in Suvarnabhumi from 11 am - 6 pm and I want to have a 90' soapie in Huai Khwang before I leave so should I take the cab or train? How do I get there, I mean the parlors on Ratchadapidesek Road? Someone please give me direction so I can go there have some fun and make it back to the airport in time.[/QUOTE]You get there by taxi. If you know exactly what you want to do, you don't need help really. The time slot seems a bit early to me. I can't say which club will be okay When you get there early afternoon.

If was me I would probably do something different, like go to Sukhumvit instead. Maybe your plan is fine. I simply don't know.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2021976]Not sure why you would be forced to take a Jacuzzi room. In all likelihood, you were not permitted a 2 hour booking as the girl may have had a subsequent booking in 2 hours, and meeting that booking time would be too difficult.

In MPs I often find that when a girl is already busy, they don't want me to book the next session, within 30 minutes of the previous session finishing. However I find I can show up early and take the girl earlier than my booking time. She may well have come out of previous booking 40 minutes before my booking.

I only met the one Farang staff member when I was there, and he seemed to have a French accent, however most of the prettier faced girls were too thick for me. I say most, because obviously the best girls can be busy and not in the line up at that time. I possibly arrived just a bit later than optimal.[/QUOTE]I know for a fact that after I left, the girl went home with no plans. We actually chatted on line for a bit that evening and there was no booking right before mine or after mine to justify refusing the 2 hour booking. In my opinion, the refusal is to try and capitalize on shorter bookings more frequently. The same reasons why many bar girls refuse LT. They should take those options off the website and price lists if no available. Anyways they won't last long with their abnoxiius and arrogant behavior. They kinda remind me of Dr. BJ before he was forced to close down and change all the names of his establishments. Now he has learnt his lesson and much less arrogant and obnoxious. I don't think these 3 will be so smart whether they are Russians or French. The jacuzzi room was my choice and the 90 minute booking was what I was forced to take. Actually after paying extra for the jaquzzi room, they gave the wrong key to the lady, at first they put me in a normal room and then had to switch after I complained.

[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2021908]Need help guys! I'll have a 7 hrs transit in Suvarnabhumi from 11 am - 6 pm and I want to have a 90' soapie in Huai Khwang before I leave so should I take the cab or train? How do I get there, I mean the parlors on Ratchadapidesek Road? Someone please give me direction so I can go there have some fun and make it back to the airport in time.[/QUOTE]Most of the big name shops will be closed for Songkran around Sukhumvit so you are corrrect in choosing Ratchada. Assuming you can make it through immigration by noon, a taxi to Ratchada will be your best bet. Your challenge however comes after. The shops will have limited staff due to Songkran and your early arrival. Might I suggest you check into a hotel near the airport and book a smooci lady? You can probably get a room for 1,500-2,000 Baht. Book your lady for 2,000-3,000 Baht. That way you can at least be assured of who is available. All for under 5,000 Baht. And a comfortable room to relax before your flight. And no chance of being late to catch your flight as well.

A quick check of the smooci website shows 20 girls available which is a far better lineup than you will find at any massage shop during Songkran and at noon-13:00.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2022001]Most of the big name shops will be closed for Songkran around Sukhumvit so you are corrrect in choosing Ratchada. Assuming you can make it through immigration by noon, a taxi to Ratchada will be your best bet. Your challenge however comes after. The shops will have limited staff due to Songkran and your early arrival. Might I suggest you check into a hotel near the airport and book a smooci lady? You can probably get a room for 1,500-2,000 Baht. Book your lady for 2,000-3,000 Baht. That way you can at least be assured of who is available. All for under 5,000 Baht. And a comfortable room to relax before your flight. And no chance of being late to catch your flight as well.

A quick check of the smooci website shows 20 girls available which is a far better lineup than you will find at any massage shop during Songkran and at noon-13:00.[/QUOTE]Well that sounds convenient. Not a bad option at all but I only miss soapie because my last trip to Thailand was more than 11 yrs ago. And before my transit flight, I'm going to make "a few appointments" in Hong Kong and Beijing so I doubt I'll have much energy left for some serious action. But yeah you're right, I think with time too short, it's better get a room to rest, maybe eat some food and relax until departing. They have hotels by the hour near airport? Okay thanks man, this smooci thing seems cool, I'll try "order some lady" with this.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2021993] They kinda remind me of Dr. BJ before he was forced to close down and change all the names of his establishments. Now he has learnt his lesson and much less arrogant and obnoxious. I don't think these 3 will be so smart whether they are Russians or French. The jacuzzi room was my choice and the 90 minute booking was what I was forced to take. Actually after paying extra for the jaquzzi room, they gave the wrong key to the lady, at first they put me in a normal room and then had to switch after I complained.[/QUOTE]Obviously for a Jacuzzi room, you need more time like 2 hours, so seems stupid to me. At New Massage I always took Jacuzzi for 2 hours or normal room for 90 minutes.

Your comments about Dr. BJ seem a bit strange to me. My assumptions are quite different. I have not met the Scott that many times, but always seemed good humoured to me, not that I would ever need to have a lot of dealings. He was only far too much of an optimist in terms of ISG reports. His 10 point girl would be a 6 for me. Strange to suggest he would have changed a lot. I did also meet some other farang guy at Dr. BJ, forget his name, but he appealed to me less. Apparently "Dr. BJ" has also been seem working at Annies. I did not see that myself. Normally at Annies and Dr. BJ Nuru, there is the Thai mamasan Gop and forget the name of the Nuru mamasan. Dealing with Thai mamasans is preferred for me.

The Dr. BJ shops would have been owned by a company and the company would probably have several share holders. That would make sense to me. Guess who the big shareholders might be? Probably the same as the shareholders for Annies. The ownership was supposedly restructured in terms of which companies own these shops. So what? Smoke and mirrors. Was always clear to me who the big boss of the Annies, Dr. BJ chain was, and how closely they were associated.

I have not seen Aey herself for several years, but have heard she visits all the shops regularly. I haven't actually been inside any of these shops for several months. Must have lost interest or lost the girls. Last girl I tried at Dr. BJ was a non repeat. She had just had a tit job and they were still bandaged up. I actually lost my favorite girls at quite a few MPs and bars, for a variety of reasons. Some just disappeared off LINE accounts. Have a very small number of regular girls left. Would like to get some others back again.

Heard disturbing rumours about weight loss techniques for some girls, not that that is anything new. Many years ago Tulip girls used to take Fitne tea every day to give them the runs so they could flush everything out, and not take on all the calories they ate.

The really ugly thing for me at the Dr. BJ shops was all the Thai boys hanging around there, serving drinks, or sleeping upstairs. Presumably they were the BFs of the girls working there. I don't know the facts but it did not look good. They did not seem to have very useful functions. Feels strange if you are about to fuck some girl, and her BF brings the drinks up. Perhaps that does not happen, but I am not too sure. Plenty of Thai boys are comfortable living off hooker girlfriends. I see so many Thai boys hanging around Soi 23 waiting for cowboy girls to finish work. Again looks ugly.

I could try my very old regular girl at Emmnuelle again, 9 years later. LOL She had a great body back then. Right now, I suppose the waist will be expanded a bit and tits gone a bit saggy maybe. Hopefully still no baby.

I would be happy if all the MPS had no Farang staff, no Japanese staff, and preferably no male staff as well. However when have non Thai managers, I just largely ignore them, and deal with mamasan or Thai booking staff.

In Soapies I have always preferred mamasans over papasans. The mamasans are generally far nicer, less pushy, and more trustworthy.

[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2022057]Well that sounds convenient. Not a bad option at all but I only miss soapie because my last trip to Thailand was more than 11 yrs ago. And before my transit flight, I'm going to make "a few appointments" in Hong Kong and Beijing so I doubt I'll have much energy left for some serious action. But yeah you're right, I think with time too short, it's better get a room to rest, maybe eat some food and relax until departing. They have hotels by the hour near airport? Okay thanks man, this smooci thing seems cool, I'll try "order some lady" with this.[/QUOTE]I'm sure they have hotels by the hour but you don't want that kind of hotel. Rent a normal hotel. It will be about 1,500-3,000 Baht compared with 350 per hour x 6 hours 2,100ST hotel, you will come in a little cheaper or a little more expensive depending on how nice your hotel is. Good luck.

Though my regular shops were closed for Songkran I went to the shops at Sukhumvit 22. In a small subsoi right behind the new Marriott hotel there are 6 or 7 massage shops located. Most girls already went up country so the lineups were depleted in any shop. Still at Honey Bee there was enough talent left for me.

Girl: Pai.

Age: 30 (her own words).

Home: Chiang Mai.

Place: Honey Bee, (but was brought over from Passion Massage).

Price: 2. 200 THB for 1 HR.

Shots: 1.

Body: 150+ cm tall, shoulderlong, straight brown hair, A cup, slightly hanging tits, very small and tiny body, very tight, no notable baby damage although she has a daughter, tattoos on her breast and belly as well as a big Sak Yaant on her back.

Room: nice room with a big bed.

Sex: standard full sex.

Massage: B2 B massage with some oil, Pai told me that it was the first time she did B2 B, not bad, but you could that she was new to that kind of massage.

Other: good BBBJ, decent kisser, cowgirl, doggie, missionary.

Pai is a nice girl who fits perfectly my definition of "petite". Sex was OK. Pai was quite talkative and her English was far more than just average.

She will go back to Chiang Mai next week.

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[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2022197]
Massage: B2 B massage with some oil, Pai told me that it was the first time she did B2 B, not bad, but you could that she was new to that kind of massage.

Other: good BBBJ, decent kisser, cowgirl, doggie, missionary.

Pai is a nice girl who fits perfectly my definition of "petite". Sex was OK. Pai was quite talkative and her English was far more than just average.
[/QUOTE]I like B2 B a lot, and usually choose a Nuru gel Massage in one of the shops that specialise in it. I really think the gel is better than Oil for B2 B. Just my opinion. I try to choose a girl with reasonable size naturals for B2 B. Some shops even have an airbed for the bodyslide, especially the more Japanese oriented shops like Can Cam.

Gamyui was very pretty at Can Cam, enhanced but a good job, gave me a fabulous session, unfortunately she is not there any more. I think she may have run away with a Japanese BF, as doesn't read my LINE messages, yet I can see her profile updates. Girls sometimes "Hide" messages from guys from their shady past, so BF doesn't see anything (and girl doesn't see the messages either).

I find important to get a girl with experience for bodyslide who knows how to slide slowly and more sexy. This was only reason I ever went to the Dr. BJ shops in the past, not just for a boring BJ.

In recent times, have used a somewhat inexperienced girl in New Massage (not cheapest shop) with good sized naturals for a gel B2 B. I can teach girls how to best use their tits if necessary.

So my recommendation is look around the various shops proving Nuru Gel massage, sometimes have bath as well, and trying to attract Japanese customers. In the end, some of these "Oily" shops, become very like a Soapy MP, except on a small scale and having no fish bowl.

[url]http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109[/url] Unfortunately Can Cam suggest this girl only does CBJ. Strangely I hardly had a CBJ for years. Perhaps was club102 where girl wanted to CBJ. Forget now. I remember there was just one time recently. Can Cam's schedule for girls working is far too limited right now for Songkran.

Many girls profiles suggest they do 69 but not BBBJ (raw BJ). I find that a bit funny. I never ever had a 69 with a condom on my dick, that I can recall.

May I know which massage parlor with sex in Sukhumvit area provide credit card service.

[QUOTE=ThugDada;2022622]May I know which massage parlor with sex in Sukhumvit area provide credit card service.[/QUOTE]I don't actually use Credit Cards for sex, so my knowledge is limited. Use of Credit card runs the risk that someone will take a copy of your card and scam you for similar services that did not happen. I have had unexpected charges arrive, even from using Card only in Hotels.

However most upscale Soapies and Clubs can take credit card (most are not in Sukhumvit), and may well show establishment as a restaurant or similar for seeming like a business expense. For small MPs and bars, probably cooking the books greatly for taxation purposes, they may not be into credit cards. If they are, it may not be safe to use it. Most people pay cash. You can extract cash from your Credit Card. I don't see a lot of Oily MPs advertising that they will take a credit card.

Those that want sex to be taxpayer funded, necessarily have run some significant risks. I don't have any business in Thailand at all, so cannot cheat on anything.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2022710]I don't actually use Credit Cards for sex, so my knowledge is limited. Use of Credit card runs the risk that someone will take a copy of your card and scam you for similar services that did not happen. I have had unexpected charges arrive, even from using Card only in Hotels.

However most upscale Soapies and Clubs can take credit card (most are not in Sukhumvit), and may well show establishment as a restaurant or similar for seeming like a business expense. For small MPs and bars, probably cooking the books greatly for taxation purposes, they may not be into credit cards. If they are, it may not be safe to use it. Most people pay cash. You can extract cash from your Credit Card. I don't see a lot of Oily MPs advertising that they will take a credit card.

Those that want sex to be taxpayer funded, necessarily have run some significant risks. I don't have any business in Thailand at all, so cannot cheat on anything.[/QUOTE]Noted. Thanks for the suggestions.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2021843]Reminds me of Nataree in some ways. I always got the impression that they were hard-core mafia, I would see muscle clearly standing at the door just looking ready to beat someone up, not sure who though. And the papasan would ring the girls by the neck, grope their tits very aggressively and some of the girls sitting nearby would be shock / terror when witnessing this.
[/QUOTE]I never felt unsafe at Nataree, but felt that many girls there were not free to enjoy life and do as they pleased. Controlled by the manager or pimp. Some of them spoke Thai to only a mediocre level, not always knowing certain Thai words and mispronouncing others. News reports indicated that a lot of girls came from Myanmar, supposedly were northern Thai girls from Chiang Rai. LOL 15 girls from the 120 arrested were not of the right age. Whole place was shut down for trafficking. They lasted that long due to paying bribes to officials at many levels. Not sure what percentage of girls in Nataree were bona fide real Thai girls working whenever they pleased and on no contract. Possibly relatively few.

I recall reporting my feelings about the level girls were controlled long before Nataree was shut down, and was rubbished by on of the senior ISG writers that I was very out of date and behind the times. However seems he was an optimist and believing only what he wanted to believe. It is very preferable to ignore how the girls come to work in the establishment and just be blissfully unaware.

Before the Thaksin era, Soapies was my favourite thing, especially Chao Praya 2 and Mona Lisa, with many repeat girls. Even after Thaksin I branched out to a lot more Soapies and developed favourite girls at several venues. In the modern day I have no favourite Soapy girls any more. Don't even really have any MP girls in a big hurry to repeat. At Nataree never had a big favourite, and possibly only ever repeated one girl from there. So I must have been quite unlucky there.

If I was more lucky with girl selections, I am sure Nataree could have been a regular place for me too. I did not find the girls to be quite so pretty as what other guys suggested. Sometimes faced with close to 100 girls, I would fail to select one. Hard to understand why that would be. Perhaps confused by size of the line up and indecisive. I probably needed to sit there for an hour to watch prospect girls, until one would start to really appeal. That is how I feel comfortable in a bar or soapies in former times. Take a long time to decide unless confronted by the obvious stand out choice. Girls with extreme charm can hook me within seconds but doesn't happen that often.

I have nothing against girls coming from Myanmar and trying to make a living in a Soapy. There were a lot of Tai-yai mountain girls in Chao Praya 2 Soapy before the clean out shortly after Thaksin came to power. Mostly Chinese-Tibetan type of looks, not exactly Thai looking and not southern Burmese looking. I liked one of those girls, not an intelligent girl at all, but nice character having a tough life, and am still in contact with her. She clearly had no agent pimp since I stayed with her in her apartment at times so could see the evidence she was free to do as she pleased, before the clean out came. More recently encouraged her to go study Thai reading and writing, so now she can message me in Thai script, spelling as bad as mine. LOL Can't speak English. She lives in Chiang Mai in the modern day and works for very low money in a food cafe. She has to pay fees and bribes each year to be allowed to stay and work in that province. At one time she went to Japan, but having a Japanese BF (and his family) proved to be a very bad experience for her and she eventually fled Yokohama Japan.

I often use a hairdresser with mostly Myanmar staff. They also speak Thai. However I hear them speaking together in their own dialect which I cannot follow. Some hotels sponser Myanmar staff to work there too like Silq for example. I was surprised the staff there could not understand Thai. LOL At least Myanmar Soapy girls usually understand Thai reasonably well. The Tai-yai language possibly has some similarities to Northern and Isaan dialects of Thai, or they just pick up northern Thai quickly after crossing the border. Other Hotels have Philippine staff, perhaps due to them speaking better English although I can't always understand every word of their English since they use unaspirated letter T and P which sounds funny (close to a be or the instead).

The cart bars on Soi 21 got raided and one of my favorite girls with fabulous tits got cleaned out. She was maybe in a suspect category. Can't contact her any more. So don't know what happened to her, after those bars were shut down. I see a ladyboy that worked there is now on Absolute Angels escorts. I had better not say which name, since LBs cannot be promoted. I don't fuck ladyboys but some can be entertaining to talk to.

Some Suthisan bars got closed down, so I am guessing they must have had girls in certain suspect categories. I did not have the experience there to know what the main problems were, but one assumes the normal problem reasons, perhaps not controlled by managers/pimps, I don't know about that.

Foreign girls also got cleaned out of Cowboy bars not that long ago. One of my favorite Cambodian girls could not work there any more. I am aware of some establishments having the odd foreign girl, one from Laos. She speaks some Thai words with Isaan / Laos pronunciation. Like Ch sound replaced by S sound as example, or R replaced by H. Obviously I won't name her or the MP establishment, since could be a risk of informers or people reading this forum. She went home to Laos for Songkran.

I don't have a problem with girls in any of the problem categories trying to make a living, from sex industry, provided it is of their own free will and they are not controlled by pimp/managers. If they are able to have fun, joke around, not be too serious, and even get their rocks off in a session with me, then I am happy about it. I suppose slightly inebriated bargirls are the most fun for me. Inhibitions loosened. PSE shop girls can be too overworked to get into it to quite the same degree, with some girls. They can seem slightly more mechanical. I have had some really great GFEs with PSE shop girls too.

I think habitual drug use by young girls is much worse than fucking for money. Everyone has to make money. I don't think sex is a bad thing at all. I do hate to see young girls getting pregnant so frequently. They should be aware of morning after pill if not taking birth control or condom accidents.

They should be brainwashed into understanding that the Thai boy will dump them as soon as they have a baby. The boy will move on to a more sexy girl. I bet the managers of girls at Nataree were making sure the girls took birth control, or perhaps had the 3 monthly injections, to be absolutely sure of no "accidents".

This place is just before the MRT on Ratchada, on the same side as Emmanuel. Just turn left in between two plazas. You can also access it if you enter Emmanuel and turn right and walk behind all the buildings, you'll see it on your left hand side. Very small lineup today of only 6 ladies at 2 PM. I had been here once before at about 3: AM on a Friday night. At that time is was 3,000 Baht for 2 hours. At that time I got the feeling the ladies were different than the ones during the day and before midnight. They seemed to be all from Laos and Myanmar.

This time, I chose Ice, 23 years old from Khon Khean. Killer spinner body with natural tits and a bob cut with a nice trimmed Bush. I was offered two price points. 2,500 and 3,000. Up 500 from before. New farang surcharge was confirmed by my lady. I did not have the energy to fight it so paid and went in. Room was really nice. Modern looking and all redone it seemed. To make a long story short. I was Ice's first Farang customer in her life. 1 month in the business. Great massage and tub soak. CBJ didn't bother me because of her killer body. Sex was good in multiple positions but she does not like DATY. She was a very energetic performer but complained after 20 minutes of boom boom. She told me normally her customers finish after about 15 minutes. I finished after about 45 minutes. She deserved the padded 500 Baht for being a good trooper.

Looks: 8/10.

Body: 9/10.

Service: 6/10.

Rooms: 8/10.

Repeat: no.

High class was a nice change but I won't be back. Next on my list will be some places on Rama 9. Reports coming soon.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2023698]This place is just before the MRT on Ratchada, on the same side as Emmanuel. Just turn left in between two plazas. You can also access it if you enter Emmanuel and turn right and walk behind all the buildings, you'll see it on your left hand side. Very small lineup today of only 6 ladies at 2 PM. I had been here once before at about 3: AM on a Friday night. At that time is was 3,000 Baht for 2 hours. At that time I got the feeling the ladies were different than the ones during the day and before midnight. They seemed to be all from Laos and Myanmar.

This time, I chose Ice, 23 years old from Khon Khean. Killer spinner body with natural tits and a bob cut with a nice trimmed Bush. I was offered two price points. 2,500 and 3,000. Up 500 from before. New farang surcharge was confirmed by my lady. I did not have the energy to fight it so paid and went in. Room was really nice. Modern looking and all redone it seemed. To make a long story short. I was Ice's first Farang customer in her life. 1 month in the business. Great massage and tub soak. CBJ didn't bother me because of her killer body. Sex was good in multiple positions but she does not like DATY. She was a very energetic performer but complained after 20 minutes of boom boom. She told me normally her customers finish after about 15 minutes. I finished after about 45 minutes. She deserved the padded 500 Baht for being a good trooper.

Looks: 8/10.

Body: 9/10.

Service: 6/10.

Rooms: 8/10.

Repeat: no.

High class was a nice change but I won't be back. Next on my list will be some places on Rama 9. Reports coming soon.[/QUOTE]Keep up the good reports from your tour BKKDG. It seems Hi Class is trying to raise its image these days. I liked it better when it was lower class and had a lot lower prices. This was of course before they got busted a few years ago for much the same reasons as Nataree. I take a peek inside when I am in town but have not been tempted as of yet.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2023698]

High class was a nice change but I won't be back. Next on my list will be some places on Rama 9. Reports coming soon.[/QUOTE]Nice report again. I hear that if you ask to see the model girls at Catherine Massage you should find something you like at a reasonable price. I'm just passing on second hand information though as soapies are not doing much for me these days.

[QUOTE=RalphKramden;2023700]Keep up the good reports from your tour BKKDG. It seems Hi Class is trying to raise its image these days. I liked it better when it was lower class and had a lot lower prices. This was of course before they got busted a few years ago for much the same reasons as Nataree. I take a peek inside when I am in town but have not been tempted as of yet.[/QUOTE]I had one really great girl at Hi Class a few years ago. I intended to repeat her plenty of times, but she quickly disappeared after just the one session. I guess it was a bit low class then but I think the room was okay. Several subsequent visits came to nothing, then I gave it away.

As for Catherine, the prices were low but I never found a girl there good enough looking. They seemed to be all pretty ordinary, or the better ones were pre booked. La Defense had girls in several sections and some good looking, but generally they were scared of Farangs. Most customers were Asian. Had better luck at Long Beech again many years ago. The Office (at one time Chai Lai and then became Colonze 3 or 4) had a lot of surgeries girls. Visited Colonze 1 only once. It was the furthest out on Rama 9 that I visited I think. Tarawadee is much further out but on Pattanakarn (not Rama 9).

Victoria Secret is very close to Catherine as the crow flies (about 200metres north) but not very close by road. Its in a back alley off Rama 9 Soi 13. Went there a couple of times never took a girl. Too early. Noar Caf Massage is not far from Rama 9 and Ekkamai intersection. I would go back there for another look. Older girls but still good looking at last visit.

In many cases I visited Soapies before it was dark, so that could have led to more disappointing line ups.

I will probably use Emannuelle or The Lord for now (on Ratchada), as I believe good looking girls easier to find there, and better line up than previous visits to La Belle. I haven't been in Poseidon again for years, so no clue if might have improved or declined.

A point to consider. You have to get to Rama 9 soapies by car or motorcycle, since MRT does not go there. The traffic on Rama 9 road can be quite bad, so be careful what time of day. I found it is easier to take the MRT to Rama 9 Station and then motorcycle to the nearer Rama 9 Soapies. Colonze 1 and Noar seem too far out in case line up does not appeal. I really dislike Rama 9 since it has so many lanes and confusion of ramps up and down to the motorway. Amsterdam, Long Beech and Utopia were the nearer Soapies I used to use. Most of the others seemed to be a waste of time, excepting maybe Noar, which might be easier to access by travelling up Ekkamai road.

Here is a website for Noar Cafe not too old:
http://www.massageprices.com/listing/bangkok/noar-cafe/

I seem to recall some new place opened on Rama 9 a couple of years back, somewhere near the Office, that I never went to and forget the name.

For soapies, there are so many places it is baffling. It is not really necessary to try girls in everyone of them. Just check out the prices and if line up makes it seem good value for money. Many of the Soapies are just not worth the effort to get there. Years ago I used to use Bangkok Cosy sometimes, purely because the girls were so cheap, but it closed. Utopia girls were expensive but I had a regular there.

I would be interested to hear if Ocean not far from The Lord is any good these days. I guess it was Colonze 2 previously, unless it is just nearby.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2023878]
As for Catherine, the prices were low but I never found a girl there good enough looking. They seemed to be all pretty ordinary, or the better ones were pre booked. [/QUOTE]Did you ask to see the 'supermodels'? I hear they have a small number there and the earlier you go the better.

It was similar with Colonze 2. The models were in a different room upstairs. I don't know if it's the same with Ocean.

[QUOTE=*****man;2023980]Did you ask to see the 'supermodels'? I hear they have a small number there and the earlier you go the better.

It was similar with Colonze 2. The models were in a different room upstairs. I don't know if it's the same with Ocean.[/QUOTE]You are right the ordinary set of girls were not up to scratch. I did not go upstairs at Colonze 2 as was not aware of that option. Both were visited many years ago (possibly 10 years back).

Catherine had more girls to choose from but whole line up was young and ugly. I did ask about a few girls that did not seem to be entering the line up and better looking. They were described as already booked girls. I don't believe a super models section was offered. I would have looked if they offered something better. Most customers were Thai and they had few issues with choosing the ugly girls. To them, young=pretty.

I have been upstairs to see the super models at Poseidon which were a disappointing lot. Probably good bodies and no baby but ordinary faces.

Live report for Sukhumvut 24/1. Anyone want me to try a particular shop or lady? Reply to this post within the next 20 minutes. No PMs.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/1hCcUtXzmc62[/URL]

This is the newest Aap Op Nuat (Soapy) I am aware of on Rama 9 very close to The Office (100 m). I have not visited this place.

When traffic is bad, I really hate Rama 9 as it has so many lanes and freeway ramps. Even access by motorcycle can be difficult. Supposedly I can get to Noar Café by freeways in just 12 mins from my place when traffic is good, and to Tarawadee by back Sois through Suan Luang on a motorcycle in about 18 mins, because I live in On Nut district.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2024039]Live report for Sukhumvut 24/1. Anyone want me to try a particular shop or lady? Reply to this post within the next 20 minutes. No PMs.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Let me try to think of some real Dog for you to try. LOL Just kidding. More seriously would like to know if Can Cam has any pretty girls these days. They "May" be still away for Songkran holidays. I did not make the 20 minutes cut off. However please let us know how line ups look in the Soi after your session.

[url]http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109[/url]

Damn may is stunning.

I am guessing by the Japanese script they arent pse? But are they any good?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024063]Ha ha. Let me try to think of some real 🐶 for you to try. LOL Just kidding. More seriously would like to know if Can Cam has any pretty girls these days. They "May" be still away for Songkran holidays. I did not make the 20 minutes cut off. However please let us know how line ups look in the Soi after your session.

[url]http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supmam;2024068]Damn may is stunning.

I am guessing by the Japanese script they arent pse? But are they any good?[/QUOTE]May is definitely my taste based on the pics, but I suspect implants.

Translate page gives:
Deep kiss: Y
Raw blowjob: N.
Full body lip: Y.
Ball Licking: N
Rim Rim: N.
Fingering: Y.
Fucking: Y
69: Y
Barefoot N
Launch in mouth: N
Knobs pilling earpick: N

So clearly not a PSE girl as would be expected in these shops. No BBBJ is a concern. I am not used to CBJs. If anyone wants to try May before I get to her, go ahead, provided we get a report. I suppose she won't be quite as good as the pics.

Candy and Soda look O.K. as well, although not shown as currently working.

I have a lot of things on my mongering to do list, so I suppose better get started soon. My regular girls interfering with the try outs. LOL

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011842]Looks like Mango just put up a new team staff photo.

[URL]http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T5.jpg[/URL]

Does anyone know which one is Prae and Ae? I have heard they good.

I know May is the 4th from right but who the girl behind her in the middle?[/QUOTE]Behind May is Get.

AE is the 1st from the left.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2024039]Live report for Sukhumvut 24/1. Anyone want me to try a particular shop or lady? Reply to this post within the next 20 minutes. No PMs.[/QUOTE]Report in the Annie's thread.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2024214]Report in the Annie's thread.[/QUOTE]I am planning for a short trip to BKK on May. I am a frequent traveler. I had good experience starting from Darling massage, Freelancer at Ambassador hotel.

I need to know, how's the situation now. And what are the good Spa s with cute girls at reasonable rate?

Thanks in advanced.

[QUOTE=LustyMan69;2024095]Behind May is Get.

AE is the 1st from the left.[/QUOTE]A strange first up post and I and going to argue, especially as I already posted originally that Ae is not in the pic.

I have sessioned with Ae, who had just shoulder length hair at the time and in her photo, note the lighter brown hair, and was probably skinnier than her shopped pics suggest.

Does the one on the left match these pics of Ae? I can't quite see it. Maybe it's possible, however I do not recognise her.

I do recognise Fern as the 2nd girl and note that Prae is absent, and some other girls clearly match their individual pics, such as Anna and May.

If compare the girl on the left with other Mango web site pics, dare I suggest she looks much more like Jane, even though I don't personally know Jane? However it's a match as far as I am concerned. Ae seemed very tall with heels so I believe she would be probably taller than Jane most likely. I suppose the perspective of the group photo makes it hard to see the comparative heights.

[QUOTE=Tokjhal;2024246]I am planning for a short trip to BKK on May. I am a frequent traveler. I had good experience starting from Darling massage, Freelancer at Ambassador hotel.

I need to know, how's the situation now. And what are the good Spa s with cute girls at reasonable rate?

Thanks in advanced.[/QUOTE]You have only posted 4 times and each post is asking for information that you could have read on the forum if you would have searched. You state you have had good experiences in Bangkok already which leads me to believe you know the drill. RTFF!

Oh by the way! If you would be so kind as to contribute some content to the forum, maybe I would answer your question. I'm eagerly waiting for your report on Darling massage from before Mr. Frequent traveller.

What was the point of quoting my post by the way?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024273]
If compare the girl on the left with other Mango web site pics, dare I suggest she looks much more like Jane, even though I don't personally know Jane? However it's a match as far as I am concerned. [/QUOTE]My best guess at the girls shown in the mango group pic, with no guarantee of 100% correctness, done mostly by matching individual pics:

Jane, Fern, Anna, Ning, Gate (Get), May, Kim, Bee?, Momo. I am fairly sure that Ae and Prae are not pictured. Looks like Amm, Tar, Vicky, Da, Linley? are also missing. My most doubtful pick is Bee.

I asked who that is and it is in fact Ae.

I never tried her but will be doing a Mango girl in 3 days. Can't decide between Ae, Bee or Get?

Mixed reviews for Ae, positive review for Bee (only one review), no reviews for Get.

I might take Get just to review her.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024273]A strange first up post and I and going to argue, especially as I already posted originally that Ae is not in the pic.

I have sessioned with Ae, who had just shoulder length hair at the time and in her photo, note the lighter brown hair, and was probably skinnier than her shopped pics suggest.

Does the one on the left match these pics of Ae? I can't quite see it. Maybe it's possible, however I do not recognise her.

I do recognise Fern as the 2nd girl and note that Prae is absent, and some other girls clearly match their individual pics, such as Anna and May.

If compare the girl on the left with other Mango web site pics, dare I suggest she looks much more like Jane, even though I don't personally know Jane? However it's a match as far as I am concerned. Ae seemed very tall with heels so I believe she would be probably taller than Jane most likely. I suppose the perspective of the group photo makes it hard to see the comparative heights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024316]My best guess at the girls shown in the mango group pic, with no guarantee of 100% correctness, done mostly by matching individual pics:

Jane, Fern, Anna, Ning, Gate (Get), May, Kim, Bee?, Momo. I am fairly sure that Ae and Prae are not pictured. Looks like Amm, Tar, Vicky, Da, Linley? are also missing. My most doubtful pick is Bee.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's Jane. I actually agree with the previous poster in that the first lady looks the most like Ae. I see no resemblance to Jane at all and I would assume that the lady on the far left in your photo would have updated shots given that she is one of the better looking ladies in that pic.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2013642]Around 2:30 pm, great line-up, maybe 25 girls. Even I didn't know who to pick. There were at least 3 very attractive ones. I picked a really pretty one named Green because she looked like Eva Green, the French actress who played Vesper Lynd in the James Bond movie Casino Royale. Long dark brown hair, pretty tall (approximately 1 m64), fair skin, from Bangkok, rather slim but not skinny (maybe 49 kilos), fake tits that look nice and not too big. Her English is fine. She's been working at Club 102 for one year.

Her performance was technically competent but not very spirited. She doesn't make you feel like she's in love with you, like some other girls can. But she gives a great massage, HJ and BJ, and she lets you ride her for all she's worth once the session moves to Full Service. Her moaning style is pretty convincing and definitely exciting. She does not hurry you.

I would say overall her strongest point is when I lay on my stomach, and she starts with a regular massage, but then it quickly generates into a massage of my inner thighs, my scrotum, my balls, my perineum, and the base of my cock. That's extremely exciting. I knew right there I was in for a strong session.

I guess I'm picky, but if you want a bit more personality before and after the sex itself, she's not for you. If you just want to bang a beautiful chick who knows what she's doing in the sack, how to make you hard and make you come, then I would definitely recommend. I probably won't repeat due to the fact that the line-up as Club 102 is so strong these days.[/QUOTE]I've also had a session with Green and while I disagree with Eva Green comparison, everything else you mentioned was spot on with my experience.

She is pretty with a great body and provides a professional massage and FS experience. No GFE or PSE but won't really disappoint if you're looking for a pleasurable no-frills session.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2024454]I asked who that is and it is in fact Ae.
[/QUOTE]Okay I guess her look has changed significantly then, because I don't recognise her. I have not seen her for a few months I guess. She looked much slimmer than that to my eye. Perhaps the photo has some horizontal stretch distortion.

Can anyone recommend a MP that gives a consistently good erotic massage that builds you and then finish you off with a HJ or BJ? Something more on tantric side of things.

I've tried the Soi 22 joints like Honey Bee, Kiss, Paradise, and Analisa on Soi 6 and I've found them to be basically no better in the massage department than your average rub and tug joint, on a couple of occasions they were actually worse because the ladies seem to want to get you to commit to FS so they can get a big tip. I've sampled 5 ladies from these places and only one actually provided a massage outside of the standard even though I chose specific massages each time. I've also tried Club 102, Addict, Mango, Cherry, and other PSE places but they are more geared toward FS.

MITU seems to be good but I don; t think one should have to drop 3000 + for this sort of thing.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2024552]Can anyone recommend a MP that gives a consistently good erotic massage that builds you and then finish you off with a HJ or BJ? Something more on tantric side of things.

I've tried the Soi 22 joints like Honey Bee, Kiss, Paradise, and Analisa on Soi 6 and I've found them to be basically no better in the massage department than your average rub and tug joint, on a couple of occasions they were actually worse because the ladies seem to want to get you to commit to FS so they can get a big tip. I've sampled 5 ladies from these places and only one actually provided a massage outside of the standard even though I chose specific massages each time. I've also tried Club 102, Addict, Mango, Cherry, and other PSE places but they are more geared toward FS.

MITU seems to be good but I don; t think one should have to drop 3000 + for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]Definitely don't go to PSE shops, I think.

The main purpose of all the shops you mention should be for sex. For non sexual best not to go there, however if any shops have an all inclusive price, then they should not care if you don't want to fuck. Those shops where lady is paid separately will be pissed off. Rub and tug is not my thing, however maybe some of the places providing Nuru gel massage maybe could excite you, maybe not. They certainly get me going with body slide, leading to full sex.

Others should be able to list true rub and tug type shops with real emphasis on the massage. Sex MPs generally have very limited true massage skills, however I have met girls there previously working in Spas, on odd occasion.

I am guessing you should be going to a massage Spa, officially non-sexual, but perhaps just a little doubtful, then find a hot young masseuse, willing to surreptitiously provide beyond the normal service for a good tip. Maybe someone has experience about which Spas can be a bit naughty.

We have had guys posting about Tantric Massage here before. So do a search for that word.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2024552]Can anyone recommend a MP that gives a consistently good erotic massage that builds you and then finish you off with a HJ or BJ? Something more on tantric side of things.
[/QUOTE]I can recommend Savanna Massage ([URL]http://savannamassagebangkok.com/[/URL]) at Udom Suk 7. A little bit pricier and a rather small lineup but I enjoyed my trips there.

Another good venue for your preferences is Arin Spa at Suphaphong 3 Alley, Lane 8 in Bangna near Seacon Square

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2024552]Can anyone recommend a MP that gives a consistently good erotic massage that builds you and then finish you off with a HJ or BJ? Something more on tantric side of things.

I've tried the Soi 22 joints like Honey Bee, Kiss, Paradise, and Analisa on Soi 6 and I've found them to be basically no better in the massage department than your average rub and tug joint, on a couple of occasions they were actually worse because the ladies seem to want to get you to commit to FS so they can get a big tip. I've sampled 5 ladies from these places and only one actually provided a massage outside of the standard even though I chose specific massages each time. I've also tried Club 102, Addict, Mango, Cherry, and other PSE places but they are more geared toward FS.

MITU seems to be good but I don; t think one should have to drop 3000 + for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]Mid-last year I was in Asok and took Lisa for a 2 hour spin.

[URL]http://asok-massage.com/lisa/[/URL]

Problem was I popped in first hour but she provided a pretty good oil massage and then really incredible hand job for a second pop for the 2nd hour. However, not gone back to her cause she was super pushy for tip wanting over 500 baht.

Not sure she got skills you looking for but if you give her a go let us know if she still pushy for tips.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2024693]Mid-last year I was in Asok and took Lisa for a 2 hour spin.

[URL]http://asok-massage.com/lisa/[/URL]

Problem was I popped in first hour but she provided a pretty good oil massage and then really incredible hand job for a second pop for the 2nd hour. However, not gone back to her cause she was super pushy for tip wanting over 500 baht.

Not sure she got skills you looking for but if you give her a go let us know if she still pushy for tips.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of this massage parlor and I usually stay at one of the hotels on Soi 19. Judging by the prices, isn't full service included in that price? I would tip if it was two pops. Saves me the BTS ride up to Tulips or Snow White.

[QUOTE=Horntoad;2024826]I've never heard of this massage parlor and I usually stay at one of the hotels on Soi 19. Judging by the prices, isn't full service included in that price? I would tip if it was two pops. Saves me the BTS ride up to Tulips or Snow White.[/QUOTE]Of course full service is in the price but please read my report before going to that place:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1975886&viewfull=1#post1975886[/URL]

[QUOTE=*****man;2024860]Of course full service is in the price but please read my report before going to that place:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1975886&viewfull=1#post1975886[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, fair enough to read all the reviews.

One bad experience from one girl, who thought she knows you when she said "roojak" (she may have been mistaken), and yet other guys gave the same girl a good review. That is not really a reason to avoid a shop completely. Over reaction.

I even had a really poor clueless girl at Tulip once. Can't recall the name now. The one with numerous vaginal warts.

I agree we have to take all the reviews related to a place into consideration, since others may have had a good time. Chemistry sometimes matters a lot.

I once had a great time with a girl called Guitar at one of the Japanese shops off Soi 19, including fucking her of the airbed used for body slide. Unfortunately she did not last, as was always late to work, travelling from far. The other girls were not interesting (not pretty enough). It's more about particular individual girls than about the shop, in my view. I hardly ever say to avoid a particular shop, unless the management really make it unbearable.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024935]Yes, fair enough to read all the reviews.

One bad experience from one girl, who thought she knows you when she said "roojak" (she may have been mistaken), and yet other guys gave the same girl a good review. That is not really a reason to avoid a shop completely. Over reaction.

I even had a really poor clueless girl at Tulip once. Can't recall the name now. The one with numerous vaginal warts.

I agree we have to take all the reviews related to a place into consideration, since others may have had a good time. Chemistry sometimes matters a lot.

I once had a great time with a girl called Guitar at one of the Japanese shops off Soi 19, including fucking her of the airbed used for body slide. Unfortunately she did not last, as was always late to work, travelling from far. The other girls were not interesting (not pretty enough). It's more about particular individual girls than about the shop, in my view. I hardly ever say to avoid a particular shop, unless the management really make it unbearable.[/QUOTE]Based on my experience, and I've been making the MP rounds on and off for close to two decades now, I have found that the services offered in these places does in fact come down to YMMV but there is definitely some DUI level perceptions for those who consistently come out of a session saying it was amazing. I personally can probably count on two hands the amount of times that I actually left a session impressed with the service, especially in the farang-oriented establishments.

The reality is, one has to actually modify their perceptions the majority of the time in order to truly feel satisfied. Luckily our 2nd brains often times automatically do that for us so even if the lady looks nothing like her photos or the service is only 1/2 of what we fantasized it would be we just deal with it and then our conscious keeps us from complaining. Once the deed is done our 2nd brain falls asleep for a moment giving our main thinker time to ponder the situation and generally the firs thing that pops into my head is ' I am never doing this again!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2024935]Yes, fair enough to read all the reviews.

One bad experience from one girl, who thought she knows you when she said "roojak" (she may have been mistaken), and yet other guys gave the same girl a good review. That is not really a reason to avoid a shop completely. Over reaction.

I even had a really poor clueless girl at Tulip once. Can't recall the name now. The one with numerous vaginal warts.

I agree we have to take all the reviews related to a place into consideration, since others may have had a good time. Chemistry sometimes matters a lot.

I once had a great time with a girl called Guitar at one of the Japanese shops off Soi 19, including fucking her of the airbed used for body slide. Unfortunately she did not last, as was always late to work, travelling from far. The other girls were not interesting (not pretty enough). It's more about particular individual girls than about the shop, in my view. I hardly ever say to avoid a particular shop, unless the management really make it unbearable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1975937]I was QUITE CLEAR that I was UNHAPPY about her service (the demand for CBJ after I gave her DATY where she orgasmed was one of the most off-putting experiences I have had at an oily) and not impressed with the facilities.[/QUOTE]Hardly a good report is it? The fact that they even employ a girl like that is reason enough to avoid the shop if you're specifically looking for good service. And the fact that there's a report of a 'girl' (looks old by MP standards) begging for a tip adds to that. Why run the risk of mediocre to awful service or old ladies begging for a tip when there are so many places around where you're almost guaranteed good service?

Feel free to go there yourself and let us know how it went though.

[QUOTE=*****man;2024978]Hardly a good report is it? The fact that they even employ a girl like that is reason enough to avoid the shop if you're specifically looking for good service. And the fact that there's a report of a 'girl' (looks old by MP standards) begging for a tip adds to that. Why run the risk of mediocre to awful service or old ladies begging for a tip when there are so many places around where you're almost guaranteed good service?

Feel free to go there yourself and let us know how it went though.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Shame we in BKK are not having experiences like this for prices like this. Buddy just came back from Jakarta. He rarely partakes in BKK anymore despite living here. Same sort of reviews from him as seen in the report below.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2024835&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2024835.

My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.

Soapies is a big risk for me for two main reasons. Higher Class have nose jobs 90%. Also many girls are used to Asian customers not so much Farang. This means they have low stamina for a decent duration fuck and often dick scared as well. This means a low percentage of girls are worth repeating.

Get off MRT at Cultural Centre. 20 Baht motorcycle to The Lord. Its 4. 30 pm. The line up is a bit small. 15 girls tops. Too early or too close to Songkran? Several beautiful girls but spoiled by nose opps. No wrar near the large line up I saw at 7. 30 pm on a previous occasion. One or two girls borderline nearly a pick but for that high money 4800 and up there is fear of missing a stunner that has not yet come out to the line up.

Decided to come back later and look in some other places.

Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.

At 1700 this is as cheap as Nana parking lot if you have to pay for a ST hotel. No 302 was cutish so I decided to risk it. Name is escaping me right now. All natural aged 21 no baby. Good tight ass, conical tits maybe almost a Bcup.

Mucked around did not do much in the bath. Only 2 weeks experience. Has a Singapore BF.

No real kissing but she enjoyed DATY okay BBBJ quite reasonable. Moderately tight pussy felt superb for sex. Even though going very soft and slow she was complaining about the size from time to time. Changed to other positions including doggy. All great. Eventually her stamina gave out and switched to BBBJ again which was pretty good once she undertstood how I liked it.

Was satisfied but would not repeat due to lack of kissing and lack of stamina. On way out the line up had become at least 25 and there were others I could do. Not so many nose jobs. I will definitely return. At 1700 the risk is not so high.

Looked in The Lord again at 6. 30 pm. Had not improved. Could do number O2 at 2nd lowest price.

Peeked in Merci (also called Maeksee in Thai). Line up was smaller than Ocean. Perhaps 2 girls doable for me.

Looked in Hi Class. Large line up of 25+ girls. All ugly. Definitely lower standard than all other shops looked in.

Probably no need to return there. Call it Low Class or Sub Class.

Emmanuelle. Maybe 25 girls. No one really stunning. One would interest me. Almost every girl with nose job except a couple of ugly ones. Like the Lord, line up was way better a couple of weeks ago.

Next visit I may leave it till 7 PM. However line ups depleted due to girls away in other provinces.

Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025072]

Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.
[/QUOTE]It sounds like apart from the name not much has changed. Is it still the cheaper girls on the left and the more expensive ones on the right? I never chose a 1700 baht girl as I'd always assumed for such a low price they must have babies. Now you say otherwise I'll definitely go back there and choose one. The only bad thing about the place and the reason I haven't been there in the past year or so is that the papasans were really grumpy. One a ladyboy and the other a grumpy oldish man. Are they still there?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025072]My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.


Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.[/QUOTE]Greetings,

Thanks for your excellent input. I really value your contributions to this thread, I have been following a lot of posts you made and I appreciate how much time you take to update which is saving us so much time and money. I am kinda new to this. I am still young, I can get girls but my lust has grown to a level normal girls can't provide. I love erotic massages but the looks of the girls are very important for me. I don't mind paying more.

I will repay everyone here once I arrive in Thailand and I will post my reviews.

Could you please confirm Lord's website is this [URL]http://www.thelord2009.com[/URL] ?

I am not able to see the pictures of the girls. Do you mean the girls in 'The Lord' are the best looking ones?

Could you tell how much can I spend on them?

Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=*****man;2025079]It sounds like apart from the name not much has changed. Is it still the cheaper girls on the left and the more expensive ones on the right? I never chose a 1700 baht girl as I'd always assumed for such a low price they must have babies. Now you say otherwise I'll definitely go back there and choose one. The only bad thing about the place and the reason I haven't been there in the past year or so is that the papasans were really grumpy. One a ladyboy and the other a grumpy oldish man. Are they still there?[/QUOTE]I met the ladyboy mamasan named Aem. She was very friendly and nice with me. I probably joked a little with her. I don't recall asing any questions except the prices and were there special girls upstairs. I guess I got lucky the girl had no baby but she was young probably 21.

The place is bothing like the old Colonze 2 (from 10 years back) in terms of where meet the girls. At that time body slide and cheap girls were on a raised area and side line girls to the left and fewer girls.

Yes the 1700 girls were in the left today. My girl had a fairly good body. Skin a bit darker than me and I am white but not that white. So that make her too dark for Thai men. Indicated most customers are not Farang though. I did not ask for or get any anal or CIM however at least was good BBBJ for my style which is soft and slow.

The girl suggested that she only gets 800 out of the 1700 which I have no verification but I felt pity and tipped her a bit since she made a good effort at times and finished with a pretty good BBBJ, where she seemed to have some special tongue skill making action just below the knob, toward the end, or maybe I just didn't have a girl too long. LOL Anyway made me cum easier than usual.

The girl had actually misunderstood my question, when she answered 800, so I asked again. I was actually asking how long I get for the 1700 which was 90 minutes. She must have OK English I guess to talk to her Singapore BF, but I did not test it.

I thought Ocean seemed a bit better than Merci for size of line up and the price, and should be a larger place, however will always depend on if there are particular girls that look cute to me.

I used to like Bangkok Cosy because they had exceptionally cheap girls like 1200 or 1400 forget now. However Ocean comes close to that. Definitely an option for those that are sick on Annies and Darling down on Sukhumvit, but don't expect PSE girls of course.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025168]I met the ladyboy mamasan named Aem. She was very friendly and nice with me. I probably joked a little with her. I don't recall asing any questions except the prices and were there special girls upstairs. I guess I got lucky the girl had no baby but she was young probably 21.

The place is bothing like the old Colonze 2 (from 10 years back) in terms of where meet the girls. At that time body slide and cheap girls were on a raised area and side line girls to the left and fewer girls.

[/QUOTE]S / he only becomes unfriendly when you leave without choosing a girl. You've just got to ignore these things I suppose. The place was definitely refurbished before changing its name. I read reports of rooms being in poor condition but when I first went there in 2013 they were good.

BTW if you pronounce merci with a French accent it sounds something like the way it's been transliterated in Thai, so no real mystery there.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2025087]Greetings,

Thanks for your excellent input. I really value your contributions to this thread, I have been following a lot of posts you made and I appreciate how much time you take to update which is saving us so much time and money. I am kinda new to this. I am still young, I can get girls but my lust has grown to a level normal girls can't provide. I love erotic massages but the looks of the girls are very important for me. I don't mind paying more.

I will repay everyone here once I arrive in Thailand and I will post my reviews.

Could you please confirm Lord's website is this [URL]http://www.thelord2009.com[/URL] ?

I am not able to see the pictures of the girls. Do you mean the girls in 'The Lord' are the best looking ones?

Could you tell how much can I spend on them?

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]There is no really good web site for The Lord.

Make do with that one or this one:

[URL]http://bangkokmassageparlors.com/the-lord-bangkok-massage/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.massageprices.com/listing/bangkok/the-lord-palace-hotel-spa-massage-ratchada/[/URL]

Prices quoted "4,300-7,800฿ for 90 minutes" but could be out of date. I believe that is without the Farang surcharge of 500 Baht.

So for Farang the lowest price level girls level are maybe 4800, I can't be sure now, as did not memorise all prices.

I don't know Zam007 if you are Farang or East Asian or what.

So be aware that for the price you drop for a "The Lord" girl for 90 minutes, you could get a girl from elsewhere for the entire night. You could also get an Escort girl on Smooci cheaper that is will to do porn star things for extra money. You could also go to nearby Ocean and spend 1700 Baht for 90 minutes with a girl plus drinks and tips. It's your money.

2 weeks ago at 7. 30 PM, I did see some absolute stunning girls, at The Lord. The best thing for you to do, is visit there and see if you think any girls are worth the money. There may be other places with very stunning girls also, at high prices, but the The Lord is generally considered to be the absolute Top place, and probably the top prices.

Here is an out of date Price List to make you aware of lots of other Soapies:

[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=*****man;2025358]
BTW if you pronounce merci with a French accent it sounds something like the way it's been transliterated in Thai, so no real mystery there.[/QUOTE]I can see that French pronounce the Mer differently to English speakers. So Mae-see could be somewhat close in Thai. However adding the letter K sound in Thai is a mystery to me. So nearest English work to Thai Maeksee should be Maxi.

I will just remember to call it Maxi when speaking to Thais in line with what I heard one or two of them them call it, if I go there. Have not yet developed a special liking for it, but will still check the girls in there if in the vicinity I guess.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025370]I can see that French pronounce the Mer differently to English speakers. So Mae-see could be somewhat close in Thai. However adding the letter K sound in Thai is a mystery to me. So nearest English work to Thai Maeksee should be Maxi.

I will just remember to call it Maxi when speaking to Thais in line with what I heard one or two of them them call it, if I go there. Have not yet developed a special liking for it, but will still check the girls in there if in the vicinity I guess.[/QUOTE]Let's not make a big thing about small details but the French letter-r is a guttural sound different from the English letter-r. And what's transliterated with a 'k' in Thai is different from the English 'k'. So what's written in Thai is just the best available transliteration of the French word.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025072]My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.

Soapies is a big risk for me for two main reasons. Higher Class have nose jobs 90%. Also many girls are used to Asian customers not so much Farang. This means they have low stamina for a decent duration fuck and often dick scared as well. This means a low percentage of girls are worth repeating.

Get off MRT at Cultural Centre. 20 Baht motorcycle to The Lord. Its 4. 30 pm. The line up is a bit small. 15 girls tops. Too early or too close to Songkran? Several beautiful girls but spoiled by nose opps. No wrar near the large line up I saw at 7. 30 pm on a previous occasion. One or two girls borderline nearly a pick but for that high money 4800 and up there is fear of missing a stunner that has not yet come out to the line up.

Decided to come back later and look in some other places.

Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.

At 1700 this is as cheap as Nana parking lot if you have to pay for a ST hotel. No 302 was cutish so I decided to risk it. Name is escaping me right now. All natural aged 21 no baby. Good tight ass, conical tits maybe almost a Bcup.

Mucked around did not do much in the bath. Only 2 weeks experience. Has a Singapore BF.

No real kissing but she enjoyed DATY okay BBBJ quite reasonable. Moderately tight pussy felt superb for sex. Even though going very soft and slow she was complaining about the size from time to time. Changed to other positions including doggy. All great. Eventually her stamina gave out and switched to BBBJ again which was pretty good once she undertstood how I liked it.

Was satisfied but would not repeat due to lack of kissing and lack of stamina. On way out the line up had become at least 25 and there were others I could do. Not so many nose jobs. I will definitely return. At 1700 the risk is not so high.

Looked in The Lord again at 6. 30 pm. Had not improved. Could do number O2 at 2nd lowest price.

Peeked in Merci (also called Maeksee in Thai). Line up was smaller than Ocean. Perhaps 2 girls doable for me.

Looked in Hi Class. Large line up of 25+ girls. All ugly. Definitely lower standard than all other shops looked in.

Probably no need to return there. Call it Low Class or Sub Class.

Emmanuelle. Maybe 25 girls. No one really stunning. One would interest me. Almost every girl with nose job except a couple of ugly ones. Like the Lord, line up was way better a couple of weeks ago.

Next visit I may leave it till 7 PM. However line ups depleted due to girls away in other provinces.

Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.[/QUOTE]Great report. Ocean and The Lord are next on my to do list. Glad to see you reporting on more of your sessions!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025366]There is no really good web site for The Lord.

Make do with that one or this one:

[URL]http://bangkokmassageparlors.com/the-lord-bangkok-massage/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.massageprices.com/listing/bangkok/the-lord-palace-hotel-spa-massage-ratchada/[/URL]

Prices quoted "4,300-7,800฿ for 90 minutes" but could be out of date. I believe that is without the Farang surcharge of 500 Baht.

So for Farang the lowest price level girls level are maybe 4800, I can't be sure now, as did not memorise all prices.

I don't know Zam007 if you are Farang or East Asian or what..[/QUOTE]I am mix, my grand parents met in London, grandmother is an Indian, and grandpa is an Italian.

Indians think I am an Italian, and Italians think I am an Indian.

Who know what the Thais think! Lets find out!

Thanks a lot for the advice.

You have a good point about Escorts.

I will be there for few days so I will try the escorts through smooci. And then decide if that has satisfied my lust! At least for now.

I will check out Lord and Ocean.

Thanks once again.

Can't wait to land there!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025366]You could also go to nearby Ocean and spend 1700 Baht for 90 minutes with a girl plus drinks and tips. It's your money.

2 weeks ago at 7. 30 PM, I did see some absolute stunning girls, at The Lord. The best thing for you to do, is visit there and see if you think any girls are worth the money. There may be other places with very stunning girls also, at high prices, but the The Lord is generally considered to be the absolute Top place, and probably the top prices.

Here is an out of date Price List to make you aware of lots of other Soapies:

[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php[/URL][/QUOTE]BTW, is Ocean and Colonze 2 the same?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1757868]
Ended up having a look at other shops. Can Cam in Soi24/1 had a very cute girl outside. I would not have gone inside looking since I never heard of this shop.

Male recptionist was Japanese, but he had some English. Ha Ha. I asked the girl if was scared of Farangs. She have a big grin and said no. Turns out her skin shade is slightly too dark to be Spec for asian guys, however her face was light maybe good makeup, and extremely cute. I could see she had sillies, but body was generally good, so decided to put up with sillies. Name was May. No numbers for girls. Upturned nose, narrow face, big black eyebrows. Small waist, no sag anywhere or mybe slight ass sag but not noticable.

Room was very nice standard. Would shit on SW rooms for elegance and size. They even had a big blowup mattress for the massage but no Nuru. Oil or Gel. May got undressed. Had a bit or Bush for those who don't like shaved, but trimmed short. No special action in the bath. She said she liked big dick. I hardly ever hear that so was encouraged.

On mattress she gave a very nice massage lightly. I asked her to swith to body to body with lots of gel and use her big tits enhanced and cute ass. She did well sliding on me. Her pussy felt very soft sliding on me too. At one point my dick accidently slid straight into her pussy maybe 2 inches. We both pretended nothing happened. She had kissed reluctantly at first but was now starting to open mouth a little and give a little tongue.

In the bed she was not scared. Into it big time. Selected position ith my legs on the outside to get maximum action on her pussy. She was looking for an orgasm and did indeed get there. She then suggested we could cum together when I am ready if possible. Her kissing had improved by now. Licking her tongue was allowed.

I just remebered that we had so much fun in the sliding part with her tits on my balls, that I forgot to ask for a BBBJ. Only did a short DATY.

Her pussy was perfection for me. Could take it all. Maybe not the tighest girl around.
.[/QUOTE]The above post was August 2015. May returned to Can Cam Massage two months ago after a two year absence. She does not really look like her web pic. Her mother won't recognise her maybe. So at first did not know I was booking a girl I did nearly two years ago. Always intended to repeat but she had disappeared.

Web pic is horizontally stretched. Real girl is slimmer in face and body, darker skin, implants and also a nose job but a fairly good one, probably won't bother most. Good fun girl for a Nuru massage. Not scared of cock. Only LFK. Good sexy Nuru slide. Has significant pubic hair but not long.

I noticed Can Cam has several pretty girls. Worth a look. I also like the look of Yaem and a darker skinned girl. In contrast girls sitting outside at Candy nearby were so ugly.

Web site pics are not always realistic as we know so well.

[QUOTE=*****man;2025400]Let's not make a big thing about small details but the French letter-r is a guttural sound different from the English letter-r. And what's transliterated with a 'k' in Thai is different from the English 'k'. So what's written in Thai is just the best available transliteration of the French word.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the "best available" for French words is a little weird, I grant you. Here is the Thai name for Merci

[url]https://goo.gl/maps/8MCMK66K5jF2[/url]

[size=+1] แมคฃี
[/size] M-ae-k-s-ee. The 3rd letter is called Khor Khwai. It is exactly like an English K. On the start of a syllable Khor Khwai is usually shown as "Kh" meaning it is an Aspirated "K" (normal for English). At end of a syllable, the aspiration is dropped in Thai, and English does the same, especially when followed by an "s" sound.

Only the vowel sound "ae" is different to English. This Thai word sounds very close to how we would pronounce Maxi, however the Thais pronounce the "a" sound a bit longer than some English speakers, perhaps Americans stretch it enough. Thais tend to emphasize the last syllable.

It is clear to me that the Thai's are calling this Place "Maxi" or "Mack-see". That is what the Thai script is showing. Maybe that is the closest to French Merci, some Thai person could envisage. They could have made it same as in English word Mercy if they wanted to. I imagine that if I ask a Taxi driver to go to Merci, he won't understand, if I ask to go to Mack-see (Maxi) he might know it.

It is true that French words transliterated into Thai, tend to come out completely different.
As example there is a Bangkok road called Henri Dunant next to Lumphini park.
So what do the Thais call it? Ang-ree-Doo-nang (with a silent 't" added to the end). I probably cannot pronounce it the French way, so I use the Thai way.

If I ask a taxi driver to go to the Indra-Regent Hotel he won't understand. I have to use the Thai way, and say the Intrar Hotel.

I have not yet worked out what Thais call Ocean massage, possibly Oh-sian (close to English word). Easier than Colonze 2 (khoh-lawn-SAY in Thai) still appearing on Google Maps as well as Ocean marker (slightly off position). It also seems to be known as Crystal Resort in Thai (sounds like Kris-tan) and the building was once called the Crystal Hotel.

Right now if I want a cheap fuck, I am probably going to do an Ocean girl for 1700 or try a Street walker outside Nana Hotel. I am (like you) worried about meeting severe baby damage. I can handle a few stretch marks, or a minor scar, but severely warped saggy shrivelled surfaces with railway tracks is not going to work for me. Very saggy or mis-shaped tits is not really my favourite thing either (occasionally able to ignore if I really like the girl).

The perfect Soapy club for me, would have a lounge for mingling and drinking with nude girls (to assess chemistry and figure), or perhaps wearing G-string only (tits exposure a must) since Thai authorities do not accept full nudity, possibly a small dance floor, and then take the girls away to a soapy room. A Cross between Crazy House and The Lord. LOL A Crazy thought perhaps, but why not? It would be the Thai version of a German FKK club. I am not keen on Soapies having girls sitting down in the line up. Hard to see the shape of their asses. Over the years accidentally chose some ugly assed girls.

One of the very few good things at Annies, was they asked the girls in the line up to stand. Then they sat down far to quickly before I had a chance to survey the figures probably. Blink and I could have missed it altogether. So Annies is not a true Soapy for me, in the traditional style. Not enough time to choose a girl at your leisure. Annies, to me, is like a glorified Oily MP, having a crappy body slide mat in a space too small for tall guys, and a silly unnecessary fishbowl. Plenty of Japanese Oilies have a bath tub. Girls are standing in Oily MP line ups. This is a good thing.

Got a message from the mamasan, that there was a new girl in shop, If I was interested.

Indeed my Junior said YES (no Surprise there).

After seeing her in Person, I went for 2 Hours, so that I can have a no rush session with 2 shots and some nice BBBJ.

And I was so happy, I chose 2 Hours. After going through the customary shower and light massage. I licked and played the perky little firm tits till the nipples were aroused pointy and her face seemed flustered, after which I pointed her to give a BJ expecting the worst as she was a total newbie to this business. BUT It seems the cherry girls had trained her well. Grace was decent at BBBJ which continued for sometime, till I touched her pussy, which was soaking wet. I asked for a DATY, which she agreed to a bit hesitantly. When I parted the lips, It was nice pink and clean and brimming with love juices without my having rubbed it at all. And Boy oh boy, It was so intense that I was thoroughly enjoying the sight, smell and sounds that I could sense then, Which of course made me hard like a rock. I did DATY for full 15 minutes, which brought her to the brink and she was ready for her 1st fuck as a pro. I did oblige her for full 10 minutes in Doggy position after which I could not go any further and orgasm-ed.

After about 40 minutes of lying down and rest the whole thing was repeated to yet another session with the same intensity.

Today is her 3rd day of working, so if you guys want her love, time to get it ASAP, before she gets hardened as it generally happens in this line of business.

Age: 25.

Baby Damage: Almost none visible.

Tits. Firm and perky (chest not huge in that department).

Ass. Sizeable and I was happy to hold.

Pussy: Beautiful Pink and non smelly Excellent for DATY.

WIR: YES.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2026201]Got a message from the mamasan, that there was a new girl in shop, If I was interested.
[/QUOTE]Your mission, should you choose to accept Mr. Phelps, is to put the new girl through her paces, and send a secret review to the manager (and to the ISG). Even if this is not the case, the girls must suspect it, so should be on their absolutely best behavior. LOL. This message will probably not self destruct in 30 seconds.

I once got requested to try a girl at a brothel for free, by the manager (no extras paid for though), who knew me well as a regular customer. Fortunately the girl was good looking and performed great for me. She got a good secret report. Pity was a one off. They had some complaints about the girl, but she was exemplary for me, which was a bit unusual for western girls in my country. Not many were that good.

Does Cathy look as good as her web site pics, or exaggerated? Is Yok still there? I have hardly been in since the amazing stunning 10 point body Angie left so long ago. Probably most ladies are a bit thick for my taste:
[url]http://cherrymassagebkk.com/massage-ladies/[/url]

Switching topic from Cherry to Candy for a second:
Does Candy massage have any good looking girls? I was surprised how plain they looked (the ones sighted) at Candy next door, when I was visiting Can Cam the other day. The Candy massage web site does not seem to working too well for me at the moment.
[url]http://candy-massage.com/index.html.feb[/url]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2025475]The above post was August 2015. May returned to Can Cam Massage two months ago after a two year absence. She does not really look like her web pic. Her mother won't recognise her maybe. So at first did not know I was booking a girl I did nearly two years ago. Always intended to repeat but she had disappeared.

Web pic is horizontally stretched. Real girl is slimmer in face and body, darker skin, implants and also a nose job but a fairly good one, probably won't bother most. Good fun girl for a Nuru massage. Not scared of cock. Only LFK. Good sexy Nuru slide. Has significant pubic hair but not long.

I noticed Can Cam has several pretty girls. Worth a look. I also like the look of Yaem and a darker skinned girl. In contrast girls sitting outside at Candy nearby were so ugly.

Web site pics are not always realistic as we know so well.[/QUOTE]Here is a pic of May from website. She looks only a little like this. Her skin is a bit darker and cheeks a bit smaller. Has a nose job (fairly good one). I wonder if the pic was taken 5 or more years ago, and she has changed a little. The other web pic of her is even less reminding me of the real girl, so I don't include it.

May is still pretty to my eye but not quite as good as the picture. I would say skinnier in the face. So for being realistic, I would rate the pic 6 out of 10. Don't misunderstand, for looks, the girl and pic both rate higher than 6. Not to worry. Can Cam seems to have several good looking girls, even to my difficult taste. So I will repeat May or try any other pretty girl there. They clearly have girls there that are not listed on the web site too, with Yaem being just one example. If passing though, worth taking a look perhaps?

Japanese papasan but has a Thai assistant I think.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026358] Can Cam seems to have several good looking girls, even to my difficult taste.[/QUOTE]Nice lineup but the owner is too much of a jerk for me to give him any business.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2026361]Nice lineup but the owner is too much of a jerk for me to give him any business.[/QUOTE]I managed to tolerate the Japanese guy if that is who you mean. His English is low, so I don't ask him any questions if I can help it, and if need to know something important I ask at least two times or until I get an intelligible answer (on the phone).

I thought he was more of a dill than a jerk, but I keep the interaction as low as possible, and talk to other staff there. Anything complex is beyond his comprehension. "Is May working today?" was the most difficult question I tried, and certainly struggled to understand his answers. He was able to say "holiday" and "3 O'clock" some simple things.

Any shop could be owned by jerks, so I don't let that deter me too much. I don't make a habit of trying to know owners or managers too well at all. I just put up with them to minimum level possible.

Billboard has a very bad untrustworthy cheating fat mamasan that used to work in Crazy House. Do I avoid the place? No. However I do tell the girl that I want to BF, to use a different mamasan. I make sure I avoid any contact with the bad mamasan as far as possible. So yes I understand the "avoid" concept if the person is bad enough.

So what happened? Did he try to make you pay without seeing the line up? I always insist to see the girls and select first before paying any money.

If you wanted to know information about the girls, like the services, or do they have silicones, or babies, etc. then ha ha, forget that! Unlikely to get anything so I did not try. He would what we call a WOFTAM I guess. There was a Thai woman there at last visit. If I had any questions I could try her in Thai language so that he would not be a party to what I was asking. LOL He is just mystified completely when I speak to anyone else in Thai of course. I like to joke around with the girls a bit to show I am good natured for purpose of future visits, especially to indicate I likes the looks of several girls and choosing is difficult.

In general principal for all massage shops, or places where there is a line up to choose from, I much prefer to deal with a Thai mamasan (over a papasan). Papasans seem to be less trustworthy overall. They also like to recommend girls that are nothing like my taste and even bullshit girls sometimes. A good proportion of Thai mamasans are fairly straight forward types, especially in Soapies. In bars it is different. I prefer to avoid mamasans at all costs. A large percentage of them are annoying and I certainly don't want them butting in to any conversation I am having with a girl. Even if I am ready to BF a girl, I pretend I am not and wait for mamasan to go away is typical. Hand the BF to the girl and let her go away with it. I don't need mamasan's help at all.

In a bar, I reckon a mamasan should be there to assist translate, when the customer and girl cannot communicate properly, which should be not so often. You don't need several persons ganging up to make any negotiation tougher. Half my new girls never specified an amount. Don't need a mamasan to interfere with that. You hear stories of a mamsans telling customer an all inclusive price BF, girl's fee and an large tip for the mamasan. Rip off deals.

After checking out the website it is obvious this place is only inviting Japanese customers. No need to me or any of you to waste your time there I think.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026369]So what happened? Did he try to make you pay without seeing the line up? I always insist to see the girls and select first before paying any money.[/QUOTE]Even on greeting the guy was rude. He brought out the lineup for my friend and I. We both each liked a girl or two in the lineup. Problem was it was the very first massage we walked in to so we wanted to at least check out a few more. The guy then gave us very dirty looks and rudely mumbled something in a foreign language. My friend eventually went back to Can Cam. I went to Club 102 even though the Can Cam girl was prettier.

Bkkdog, we aren't Japanese and full line up was shown to us.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2026408]Even on greeting the guy was rude. He brought out the lineup for my friend and I. We both each liked a girl or two in the lineup. Problem was it was the very first massage we walked in to so we wanted to at least check out a few more. The guy then gave us very dirty looks and rudely mumbled something in a foreign language. My friend eventually went back to Can Cam. I went to Club 102 even though the Can Cam girl was prettier.

Bkkdog, we aren't Japanese and full line up was shown to us.[/QUOTE]But my point was just proven. The guy clearly does not want Farang customers, hence why he was rude and his website is completely in Japanese.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2026413]But my point was just proven. The guy clearly does not want Farang customers, hence why he was rude and his website is completely in Japanese.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why guys worry about minor things. There are no shops around that are perfect in every sense. The biggest problem for me at most shops is unappealing girls. I probably annoy a few shops on my shop surveys when failing to pick a girl.

Several of times I departed Can Cam without choosing a girl, especially when my desired girl was absent, no big deal, and sure website is in Japanese, also no big deal. You have Google Translate. LOL. Does not discourage me in the slightest. If the guy ever made any comments in Japanese it's water off a duck's back to me. I would not understand. I can make comments in Thai that he doesn't understand either.

I don't find things irritating quite so easily. He has some nice looking girls. That is all I give a shit about. Non Japanese customers are not rejected like at a shop on the other side of the Soi. All up, over extended time, I have done 3 or 4 girls at Can Cam. There may have been one poor session last year. I struggle to remember now if the poor girl was this shop or at Boss massage, or one at each. I can consult my old reports. In general I was happy with most girls at Can Cam and at Boss, Addict was hit and miss like only 1 girl worth repeating, and the one girl at Club102 was underwhelmingly ordinary. Never had a bad girl at Mango however, over the years.

I had a very pretty girl at Orient recently. Probably had zero English.

I like a Nuru body slide on a blow up mattress. That is possible at this Can Cam shop in Jacuzzi room which is a very nice room. That makes it an alternative to Chrome bar (Dr. BJ Nuru) and an alternative to Soapies with bodyslide. I will choose the place with the best girls to do it or best value for money if I like girls at more than one place. There was Nuru massage at New Massage Soi 33, but did not have a very good mat for it, even if the girl had very good tits for it.

I will probably take a body slide at Emannuelle with B02 Yok, in memory of old times with her 9 years ago, when her tits were quite magnificent wide slung C+cups. Will be interesting to see how good her body is now. Amazing she is still there. Could be 30 YO now.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026541]

I had a very pretty girl at Orient recently. Probably had zero English.

[/QUOTE]Care to share the details? How recent is recently? I haven't been there for a few months because they're not honest about which girls have babies so I wouldn't take a risk on a new girl unless I'd seen a review of her.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026541]Non Japanese customers are not rejected like at a shop on the other side of the Soi. [/QUOTE]What shop on soi 24/1 rejects non-Japanese customers?

[QUOTE=*****man;2026674]Care to share the details? How recent is recently? I haven't been there for a few months because they're not honest about which girls have babies so I wouldn't take a risk on a new girl unless I'd seen a review of her.[/QUOTE]She had a horizontal scar above pussy. C-section maybe? Maybe not. Could be uterus or ovary surgery. Not much stretch marks if any. Did not look like mummy tits. Struggling to remember exact tit size. Struggling to remember the name for the moment. Did not really look like a mother except for the operation scar. Was this year.

As for the Japanese shop. I don't recall the name and have not checked it is still there. I was located from Soi 24/1 to Soi 26, probably close to Cherry Hair Salon. Google Maps Street view does not function in Soi 24/1. I did post a review a while back, 1 to two years ago at a guess, saying how we were not accepted at the exclusive Japan shop, even though I had already rung the shop to book a very pretty girl successfully, speaking to booking person in Thai. So obviously different staff had a different opinion. Someone will know what it was called.

BKK Dog,

The following website advertises a GDiary book 2 (2016), and shows very detailed Maps for the Japanese guys. We may be able to utilise some of this. Some labels are in English. I will ignore the Map for Thaniya Plaza of course.

It's a pity there are no English Maps with this much detail of possibly nearly every massage shop, and other entertainment venue.:

[URL]https://books.google.com.au/books?id=d45gCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=Gdiary+Massage+Bangkok+Sukhumvit&source=bl&ots=N1pgmmQtn7&sig=r_mmpm2FPgi0KALQzrrDZIcris0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD0Y3p47zTAhVHvo8KHQFvAhwQ6AEIQjAF#v=onepage&q=Gdiary%20Massage%20Bangkok%20Sukhumvit&f=false[/URL]

Shows a Japanese MP on East side of Soi 24/1. Unfortunately I can't read what it is called due to Japanese script. Looks like that brown-orange colour is used for massage shops, but not for Soapies.

I am not quite allergic to Japanese things (love sashimi) and Gdiary site http://www.gdiary.com/shop/ is useful to divulge on shop on east side of Soi 24/1 (for hoe-man):
タイ大手町商事 Premium / Thai Ohtemachi Shoji Premium
description
電話番号：02-661-3710
営業時間：10:00～23:00
[url]http://www.gdiary.com/store/massage/ohtemachi-shoji/[/url]

That must be the Japanese shop I got refused at despite having made a booking. I could always try again. Might meet some other member of staff that allows me in. Some of their web pic girls look very pretty (some ugly).

Premium girl Yo looks nice, or Noriko perhaps a bit more busty.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026770]BKK Dog,

The following website advertises a GDiary book 2 (2016), and shows very detailed Maps for the Japanese guys. We may be able to utilise some of this. Some labels are in English. I will ignore the Map for Thaniya Plaza of course.

It's a pity there are no English Maps with this much detail of possibly nearly every massage shop, and other entertainment venue.:

[URL]https://books.google.com.au/books?id=d45gCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=Gdiary+Massage+Bangkok+Sukhumvit&source=bl&ots=N1pgmmQtn7&sig=r_mmpm2FPgi0KALQzrrDZIcris0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD0Y3p47zTAhVHvo8KHQFvAhwQ6AEIQjAF#v=onepage&q=Gdiary%20Massage%20Bangkok%20Sukhumvit&f=false[/URL]

Shows a Japanese MP on East side of Soi 24/1. Unfortunately I can't read what it is called due to Japanese script. Looks like that brown-orange colour is used for massage shops, but not for Soapies.

I am not quite allergic to Japanese things (love sashimi) and Gdiary site http://www.gdiary.com/shop/ is useful to divulge on shop on east side of Soi 24/1 (for hoe-man):
タイ大手町商事 Premium / Thai Ohtemachi Shoji Premium
description
電話番号：02-661-3710
営業時間：10:00～23:00
[url]http://www.gdiary.com/store/massage/ohtemachi-shoji/[/url]

That must be the Japanese shop I got refused at despite having made a booking. I could always try again. Might meet some other member of staff that allows me in. Some of their web pic girls look very pretty (some ugly).

Premium girl Yo looks nice, or Noriko perhaps a bit more busty.[/QUOTE]Wow great intel. I will use this for sure. Cheers brother.

Mini survey.

Wanted B02 at Emannuelle. 2500 baht. She was absent. Collected phone number to be able to check another days. Most web sites list wrong phone numbers for Emannuelle.

I could have picked another nice looking B number girl but stupidly decided to look elsewhere.

Next Stop The Lord. Level R girls are 4800 Baht. Sorry they are not good looking enough. Level O 5400. Still not pretty enough. Level M. Level K. Now two girls are quite pretty but not as good as K35 who is missing. The price is ridiculous now around 7 K forget. Please be aware, that the stunners never sit for long and could easily have been taken just 10 minutes earlier. It is 8 pm but I have seen larger line ups.

Next Ocean where price starts at 1700. What a contrast. Today there were just no girls looking good enough to interest me.

Alaina. A small line up. Too many with nose jobs.

Merci. Known by Thais as Maxi. S22 was the standout girl at 2800 baht. I would have taken her but she was pre booked and trying to hide so I would not select her.

Walked to Poseidon. Quite a good sized line up on ground floor. Different to years earlier where had to go upstairs.

Only 3 girls had acceptable noses for me but a large line up for guys not concerned about noses. The 3 with good nirmal nises were either too fat or too ordinary.

Models upstairs started at 4200 but did not see any pretty enough to warrant the prices.

Copa Cabana has changed a lot. Line up too small and starts too pricey. Malibu has gone.

Finally looked in La Belle at 9 pm. Girls with letter P were well over 4 k proce but not good enough and very few left. It was too late.

Next time to look for a good value girl might go to Meree or Nancy where prices start much lower.

For higher priced girls, I keep thinking I could get a better price on Smooci and get a full two hours booking.

Clearly the Soapy world was for me 20 years ago but not anymore due to my hate of the weird nose jobs. Makes it so tough when a such a small percentage of the lookers have a natural nose. Strangely shaped tits don't excite me as well.

Where to find the natural beauties? Very hard these days. My solution is to collect regular girls that I like. However I have no regular Soapy girl right now.

Those prices are ridiculous. Are these girls 2 or 3 times better looking than the best Thermae girls? If so, which would be the best place for my tastes (ie. Korean and Japanese pop star look)?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2020866]In the case of Cheer, I probably would have chosen her from the sit-down line-up I got at Bamboo even if I hadn't read any of the generally very positive reviews I'd read about her on these sites. She was clearly the most smiley, perky and interested one in the group, really seemed to want me to choose her vs the rather dull demeanor of the other girls at the time. [/QUOTE]Actually, she wasn't even in the lineup when I arrived. I think that "New" was the one that the mamasan wanted me to take and I had to look around the room before I found Cheer and she was sort of moving around in the back. If I didn't know any better I would have said she didn't want to be chosen!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2027038]Those prices are ridiculous. Are these girls 2 or 3 times better looking than the best Thermae girls? If so, which would be the best place for my tastes (ie. Korean and Japanese pop star look)?[/QUOTE]As you know, it is hard for me to find a stunner at Thermae that is available to me, and sometimes my intended girl is already being chatted up by a Japanese. Then I choose a girl and turns out her sillies aren't that good or she doesn't kiss, etc. I am preferring Soi 4 street girls over Thermae girls due to a better price and therefore blow less money if she is a bit ordinary. The street girls don't have nose jobs of course. LOL Getting GFE still not so easy. So we are in different worlds. LOL

Since you like nose jobs, you should be liking the Soapy line ups much more than me. I would suggest you try looking in Merci and Emannuelle. The prices in The Lord may be lower for you (no Farang surcharge for you). So I recommend you have a look, just to know how beautiful they can be and how high the prices can be. Poseidon ground floor had a good sized line up so try that too. In fact all these places may offer you a lower price. Emannuelle should have Farang surcharge too.

I am guessing an Emannuelle body slide girl could be priced at about 1900 for you (2500 for me). There are other higher price levels there too.

I believe the best time is about 7 PM. Be prepared to sit for a while if possible since a stunner may come out. The stunners may not last long in the line up, certainly were getting snapped up quickly at The Lord.

If you want really cheap girls, look in Ocean (near the Lord) or Meree or Nancy in a totally different location. They will cost you less than a Thermae girl.

So in the Soapies you have double benefits over me, open to enhancements, and no Farang Surcharge. Should be nice for you.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2020907]YMMV applies everywhere and at any time. Not only for you but for any of us.

I had the same experience a couple of years ago, with Apple, a highly praised girl from Cherry Massage at that time. She got tons of great reviews but somehow I didn't get along with her. It happens, just get over it and fuck the next girl.

As for my meeting with Cheer, I knew her since she worked at Mango and booked her 2 or 3 times already and we had a good time together back then. So she maybe might have remembered me.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree, absolutely.

I once took Vodka at Cherry I think it was, and despite good reviews from others, she was an absolute disaster with me, and could not even ascertain what was wrong with her. Could have been just too tired and needed a sleep, or in pain after too many customers, but she acted clueless in the session, mucking around and wasting time, and not doing anything at all useful. I am a nice joking around type guy, so should have been no reason to take a dislike to me. She did not give any explanation for her absolutely pathetic performance. She would have known how bad she was. Did not actually fuck her. Maybe got a horrible BJ, can't remember. Cancelled after about 20 to 30 minutes of rubbish. Sometimes there is no apparent explanation.

With Cheer, I could not fault her attitude at all. I didn't repeat simply because she was not pretty enough or hot enough for the figure, to really excite me much. I am too looks oriented. There was no spark. Would have been my least exciting Mango experience quite possibly. However the blame lies with me, I feel. So I can easily see Cheer can be good for others. In contrast, Prae has a great tight body, and there was a spark. She was very enthusiastic also. Really liked her. Yet others find Prae to be quite ordinary.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2026903]Where to find the natural beauties? Very hard these days. My solution is to collect regular girls that I like. However I have no regular Soapy girl right now.[/QUOTE]I don't know what your specific preferences are or your profile but if you're looking for the natural, and more traditional Thai exotic beauties you have to go the FL route at the 'upscale' lounges like Ce La Vi, Maggie Choos, Oskars, and dare I say Levels or go the social media route with Tinder and the like. You generally have to mix in bit of socializing, sometimes endure really loud club music, and compete with some bro types but there are some truly stunning ladies at these venues that purposely maintain their natural beauty (facially at least) because they know farangs prefer this.

Just done a brief Easter break visit to BKK. Stayed at the Park Plaza again, and did the usual variety of massage place takeouts and other soapies.

I usually make a visit to Mitu in s33. I like the Japanese touch. However, this time things had changed. Mitu is now in the alley opposite the "old" place. Very discrete. Chatted with the Japanese (I think) guy who seems to run the place. This is not a late evening place anymore, and not so walk-in anymore. Busy time are afternoons, with a phone appointment preferred. I guess they are now targeting a certain kind of customer.

However, at the old premises, now run by [URL]www.dozomassage.com[/URL]. Clearly, by the name targeting the Japanese customer. Prices are high-ish 2500 HR / one shot, 3900 / HR 2 shots with water Matt / nuru. The are a few specialized options. I took the water mat, with May. Overall, a good soapy / Nuru session. And it was 2 shots. However, without the previous ownership " finesse".

A day later, whilst wondering through Sukhumvit 24/1. The ally with candy and angel massage, I noticed a place with the same design signage as dozomassage. So someone is branching out.

One evening, decided to stay in after a good early evening meal, but got the urge late evening and too lazy to go out. Decided to try [URL]smooci.com[/URL]. Booked one of the older gals for a two hour session (the older ladies are often much better on longer sessions. They have something to say.). The site does what it says on the tin; a very efficient process. Had to confirm my mobile number via SMS and a OTP, then got a brief call via the hotel switch board to confirm. Kya arrived on time. I had a good time with a very pleasant lady. She did tell me some scare stories of what can happen on some callouts. It is not an easy job.

When back in BKK will definitely use the service again.

First of all a big thanks to all the members who have been kind enough to keep the forum updated constantly. I have been not updating off late but as a member I feel obligated to add my bit after having experienced BKK last week. So here goes.

Saturday afternoon was walking towards snow white (my favorite BTW) however thought of checking the lovely ladies sitting outside on Soi 24/1,I must say a lot of the places on that Soi are not talked about but seemed to have a good talent sitting outside. One of the places that seemed to have a good collection was can cam, also another joint which seemed new had its name written in Chinese / Japanese and had a few words written there apparently - 'sexual harassment massage'did not how to digest this name as a pump or a simple lack of English on behalf of the Thai's, anyway headed further on found this plumpish cutie called candy sitting outside at cherry Massage Had seen her before on their website and was really interested in having a session with her, to my luck she was right in front of me smiling. To be sure I asked for her name and voila. It is candy, so went inside spoke to the mamasan who congratulated me for my excellent choice.

Anyway up we go to the room. Which was not a great one at first sight, however I told candy I had been eyeing her from a couple of days on the website. We instantly struck a bond. The next two hours were absolute bliss. I had a hard time believing why she has not been talked about on this forum at all. OK I agree she may not be everyone eye candy. She is a bit heavy in places but I would not mind that at all. Great BBBJ, anal and DATY. Tipped her an additional 500 for the fine ob done and another 100 to the mamasan. She left me without any energy for another session at snow white which I thought I would try the next day. More in next.

Sunday afternoon about 2.30 pm. Decided it was the time to pay my favorite place a visit. So again went strolling from Soi 24/1, again found some great talent outside can cam, was tempted to try however was again not stopping from going to snow white this time around. A few seconds later my eye caught another beauty sitting on the left hand this time. Still I felt snow white calling for me. Reached there, about six girls sitting. Asked for ninja. Someone whom I have heard of greatly on this forum however never had the chance of being graced upon. She was booked already. Asked for Emmy. Whom I had a great session with last time. Apparently she has had an accident and has been out of the scene since the last one month and when she will return is not Known. Wishing her a speedy recovery as she has an absolute gem. So finally my eye caught someone who Seemed new. Goes by the name of cash. Later found out she is not really that new apparently she does not want her pics on the website. She was fair skinned. 24. About 5 ft 2. ,asked her if she would enjoy the Company of one of her friends, to which she responded positively. Chose candy (yes I know what you guys must be thinking. But I did not know her name to be candy before we reached the room). Anyway the next two hours were great with both the cuties, they had decent chemistry together. Apparently according to candy a threesome is very easy to go by as all SW girls rally get along. Two shots with a good massage in between. Showed the girls their website and asked for who else had been sitting downstairs. Apparently there was Nana who looks very different than her pics, and a few more whose names I don't remember now. Anyway when later I walked down with both of them. I peeked again into the sitting area, the time now was about 5 and there were few more girls sitting in comparison to 3 pm when I entered. Cash was with me and told me the one sitting in yellow was ninja. On being called her name she instantly stood up with a big smile on her face, and now having looked at this petite darling I knew exactly why this sweet little thing was the most talked about in this thread. I exchanged my hellos and told her that I had heard great things about her from a few friends of mine, and promised here I will book her next time. Which I definitely will. I now plan to fly to Cambodia & Vietnam and will be back again later this week and will make assure I book ninja for a tete A tete. Also will give cam can a try and will keep all you folks posted. Till then adios amigos.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2027251]I don't know what your specific preferences are or your profile but if you're looking for the natural, and more traditional Thai exotic beauties you have to go the FL route at the 'upscale' lounges like Ce La Vi, Maggie Choos, Oskars, and dare I say Levels or go the social media route with Tinder and the like. You generally have to mix in bit of socializing, sometimes endure really loud club music, and compete with some bro types but there are some truly stunning ladies at these venues that purposely maintain their natural beauty (facially at least) because they know farangs prefer this.[/QUOTE]What are 'bro types'?

Are you talking about 'ladies' that are hookers or ladies out to meet Farangs for fun?

As I have a GF and some regular Giks already, I am looking to find hookers without going through a social process. I do STs and my lead up time is not too much. I don't party all night.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2027206]As you know, it is hard for me to find a stunner at Thermae that is available to me, and sometimes my intended girl is already being chatted up by a Japanese. Then I choose a girl and turns out her sillies aren't that good or she doesn't kiss, etc. I am preferring Soi 4 street girls over Thermae girls due to a better price and therefore blow less money if she is a bit ordinary. The street girls don't have nose jobs of course. LOL Getting GFE still not so easy. So we are in different worlds. LOL[/QUOTE]I'm not sure this is the right criteria when judging a lineup for the place. Lineup imo should be judged on how pretty the girls are solely on their looks and not based on whether or not a girl in interested or smiles at me or is available when I am there. Imo money should not be a factor when judging a girl's lineup as well. I wouldn't say that some beer bar has a better lineup than a top gogo bar because the beer bar girl costs 1000 and the gogo girl costs 3000. Just a difference on how we base what a good lineup means. I judge a good lineup based on looks regardless of any other factor.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2027414]What are 'bro types'?

Are you talking about 'ladies' that are hookers or ladies out to meet Farangs for fun?

As I have a GF and some regular Giks already, I am looking to find hookers without going through a social process. I do STs and my lead up time is not too much. I don't party all night.[/QUOTE]Stereotypical bros = Stereotypical young Russians but with American and British accents.

Yeah, these places tend to require a bit of partying and game-playing in order to attract a lady and are not jealous GF or wife friendly because they like to take promo photos of guests and post them on their fb page. They can also be confusing because you will have a mix of FLers and easy-going ladies that will go home with you if they are into you and you show them a good time. To make it more confusing the FL often times will act like the non-P4P ladies and go along with you and only ask for money when they are ready to leave your room in the morning. Some will negotiate in the bar but the majority of these ladies seem to be the type that want to avoid being viewed as FLers so they will often times just take what you give them when they leave as long as its a fair amount (I've given them anywhere from 1000-3000). I have heard of some guys having to pay prices as high as 10,000 though but my guess is they just threw that number out there for a lady playing hard to get.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2027526]I'm not sure this is the right criteria when judging a lineup for the place. Lineup imo should be judged on how pretty the girls are solely on their looks and not based on whether or not a girl in interested or smiles at me or is available when I am there. Imo money should not be a factor when judging a girl's lineup as well. I wouldn't say that some beer bar has a better lineup than a top gogo bar because the beer bar girl costs 1000 and the gogo girl costs 3000. Just a difference on how we base what a good lineup means. I judge a good lineup based on looks regardless of any other factor.[/QUOTE]Sure I agree. Performance is irrelevant to line up comments. Sillies is relevant. Unavailability of a girl is relevant. No use looking at a girl that cannot be selected.

Price is partly relevant. I thought the Lord girls at 4800 were above average but not sufficiently good looking to pick them even if were only 3K. If the girl I liked most was only 3K I would have been happy to take her. At at least double that price, she was still not stunning enough.

If I had unlimited budget then price would cease to matter.

There was still little doubt that The Lord had the best line up.

However your point originally was are you going to get better than at Thermae. Until I find out how great the service is at the Lord, I don't know.

I thought standard of Emannuelle girls was not too far behind but the prices start lower. So worth a look. I could pick a girl there without feeling so much guilt.

I should have asked at all the places how much of the price was Farang surcharge. I think Emmanuelle has a varying surcharge depending on girl level. Perhaps less for body slide category.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2027555]Stereotypical bros = Stereotypical young Russians but with American and British accents.

Yeah, these places tend to require a bit of partying and game-playing in order to attract a lady and are not jealous GF or wife friendly because they like to take promo photos of guests and post them on their fb page. They can also be confusing because you will have a mix of FLers and easy-going ladies that will go home with you if they are into you and you show them a good time. To make it more confusing the FL often times will act like the non-P4P ladies and go along with you and only ask for money when they are ready to leave your room in the morning. Some will negotiate in the bar but the majority of these ladies seem to be the type that want to avoid being viewed as FLers so they will often times just take what you give them when they leave as long as its a fair amount (I've given them anywhere from 1000-3000). I have heard of some guys having to pay prices as high as 10,000 though but my guess is they just threw that number out there for a lady playing hard to get.[/QUOTE]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?

[QUOTE=Citizen;2027307]Sunday afternoon about 2.30 pm. Decided it was the time to pay my favorite place a visit. So again went strolling from Soi 24/1, again found some great talent outside can cam, was tempted to try however was again not stopping from going to snow white this time around. A few seconds later my eye caught another beauty sitting on the left hand this time. Still I felt snow white calling for me.

Reached there, about six girls sitting. Asked for ninja. Someone whom I have heard of greatly on this forum however never had the chance of being graced upon. She was booked already. Asked for Emmy. Whom I had a great session with last time. Apparently she has had an accident and has been out of the scene since the last one month and when she will return is not Known. Wishing her a speedy recovery as she has an absolute gem. So finally my eye caught someone who Seemed new. Goes by the name of cash. Later found out she is not really that new apparently she does not want her pics on the website. She was fair skinned. 24. About 5 ft 2. ,asked her if she would enjoy the Company of one of her friends, to which she responded positively. Chose candy (yes I know what you guys must be thinking. But I did not know her name to be candy before we reached the room). Anyway the next two hours were great with both the cuties, they had decent chemistry together. Apparently according to candy a threesome is very easy to go by as all SW girls rally get along. Two shots with a good massage in between. Showed the girls their website and asked for who else had been sitting downstairs. Apparently there was Nana who looks very different than her pics, and a few more whose names I don't remember now.

Anyway when later I walked down with both of them. I peeked again into the sitting area, the time now was about 5 and there were few more girls sitting in comparison to 3 pm when I entered. Cash was with me and told me the one sitting in yellow was ninja. On being called her name she instantly stood up with a big smile on her face, and now having looked at this petite darling I knew exactly why this sweet little thing was the most talked about in this thread. I exchanged my hellos and told her that I had heard great things about her from a few friends of mine, and promised here I will book her next time. Which I definitely will. I now plan to fly to Cambodia & Vietnam and will be back again later this week and will make assure I book ninja for a tete A tete. Also will give cam can a try and will keep all you folks posted. Till then adios amigos.[/QUOTE]Cash is a lot older than 24 and used to work at Bongkot. She's been around for years.

[QUOTE=*****man;2027602]Cash is a lot older than 24 and used to work at Bongkot. She's been around for years.[/QUOTE]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2027593]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?[/QUOTE]My regular girl now, retired P4 P, certainly mentioned going to Ku Deh Tah (I believe previous name for Cest La Vie could be wrong) to party semi Hi So. She knows how to dress up stylish but very sexy. Probably would have taken guys that appealed to her, or may have just had fun and gone home alone sometimes, I haven't interviewed her about her exact attitude, however she is not or was a not a hooker that disliked sex. She believes in getting a good regular fuck. Certainly able to orgasm with customers or pickups if they perform right. Used to have a lot of BFs. Some would have been acquired in these clubs, no doubt. Some did not know she was also a hooker. That was secret.

Always makes me laugh when some guys believe hookers never enjoy it. She only became a hooker when she realised quite young that not only could she pick up guys for hot sex fun, but could make high money from it as well. There is no job spec that says, a girl must always dislike the work.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2027593]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?[/QUOTE]Ce La Vie is a step above Levels and Oskars. It also has a consistent amount of ladies especially on the weekends. Maggie Choos is sort of a pre-game to Ce La Vi as some of the ladies will go there first and if they can't find a guy they usually head over to Ce La Vi.

I typically approach a lady or ladies that I find attractive. Normally the FLers will stand or sit near the bars. I will start out with a little bit of light chit chat and if they respond with any sort of enthusiasm then I will buy them a drink. If they aren't interested they will usually smile and give this stop hand gesture.

Most speak pretty good English in these places so banter is fairly easy. If you're not much for small talk or a bit on the serious side you may strike out as these girls are looking for fun first. If things go well enough to order up another round you're practically assured that she will go home with you. The straight up FLers will usually ask if you want sex when you order them another drink and at that point pricing can be negotiated but I've been playing this game for a couple of years now and this upfront business talk has only happened a couple of times. Note: Some of the ladies actually get offended if you ask them how much.

For the gentlemen that are 50+, you can have success in picking up ladies from these places but you have to present yourself accordingly and look like a person of means. Some of the most sophisticated looking FLers actually prefer more experienced men but you stand a better chance if you look put together and in decent shape. For example, I was at Ce La Vi and saw this stunning women, model-esque, with that old school Thai look, with flawless slim body, mocca skin, long silky black hair, etc. She was probably early 30's but put every other women to shame in the place that night. The kind of woman that screams 'really expensive but fuck it you only live once kind of hotness'. I knew right away that she was FLing but the crowd of young guys were seemingly way to intimidated to approach her. As I was about to ask her if she wanted a drink, a distinguished gentleman swooped rolls up with a bottle of champagne and prompts the lady to come to his VIP booth and just like that she was gone. Not saying that you have to have a VIP booth and bottles but at least look like you do.

The great thing about this scene is that it's quite small and if you frequent these places you will see the same people, especially the ladies so when I saw her again a couple of weeks later I didn't hesitate. She was actually less than I expected, expensive, but she was worth every baht.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2027635]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.[/QUOTE]Hmm thanks for the info goatscroat and *****man. It's amazing she really doesn't look that old. So if she started off in 08-09 which is almost 9 years and probably she was 18 at least at that time considering she was not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] when she joined the trade. She is at least 27, doesn't look that old. I guess most Thai girls don't then what about someone say Nana who looks at least 35-38, what is her real age at least 40+. I am guessing.

[QUOTE=TravelLucid;2027268]...A day later, whilst wondering through Sukhumvit 24/1. The ally with candy and angel massage, I noticed a place with the same design signage as dozomassage. So someone is branching out...
[/QUOTE]A few years ago, there used to be a massage shop called Dozo on Soi 24/1. If I remember correctly this location is now occupied by Dream Heaven. I have no idea about the management or connections of these places.

Is Venus (new girl at Cherry) the Wawa that used to work at Mango? Never met her but I think to remember her picture.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2027660]
The great thing about this scene is that it's quite small and if you frequent these places you will see the same people, especially the ladies so when I saw her again a couple of weeks later I didn't hesitate. She was actually less than I expected, expensive, but she was worth every baht.[/QUOTE]I quite like this new intel on this board that rarely sees anything new. Would you mind saying how much "expensive" is?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2027635]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.[/QUOTE]I think she is awesome and have submitted some reviews about her.

[QUOTE=Mjen1970;2027963]I think she is awesome and have submitted some reviews about her.[/QUOTE]Looking for some new talent on Saturday so might pop into snow white and try her out.

[QUOTE=Citizen;2027710]Hmm thanks for the info goatscroat and *****man. It's amazing she really doesn't look that old. So if she started off in 08-09 which is almost 9 years and probably she was 18 at least at that time considering she was not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] when she joined the trade. She is at least 27, doesn't look that old. I guess most Thai girls don't then what about someone say Nana who looks at least 35-38, what is her real age at least 40+. I am guessing.[/QUOTE]Cash is 31 and looks every bit of it to me. Nana is 40 plus and looks it as well. Maybe they hide it well with their makeup?

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2027956]I quite like this new intel on this board that rarely sees anything new. Would you mind saying how much "expensive" is?[/QUOTE]I gave her 5,000 in the morning for her time and she was happy with that. There was another 5,000 for drinks spent throughout the night but the experience seems more natural than say buying LDs at a bar in Nana or Soi Cowboy. We danced a bit, chatted a lot. Even though we knew how the night would end, she and others in these venues still do this thing where they slowly and methodically become more physical as the night progresses. First it starts with playful eye contact, then the seemingly unintentional touching of your knees and hands, subtle biting and licking of the lips, and twisting of the ends of their hair as they converse and laugh. By the time we hit the elevator on the way out we were DFKing on the lift down.

I rushed her to my place which isn't far and we got in our first session. She was tipsy but provided a very nice GFE with no real hang ups. A lady like this won't be as skilled as some of the more turnstyle pros but the combination of physical beauty and more seemingly genuine approach makes it well worth it to me.

We chilled for a few minutes afterwards and could have just fallen asleep but we both were still not done having fun so we headed out to Sing Sing Theater, another upscale lounge along the lines of Maggie Choos. If you're a gamer and wanting to push your luck with trying to hookup using just your skills then give this place a go. A lot of editorial models both Thai and international hang out there on various nights.

One of her friends was there, another 30-something beauty but with a bit more plastic. I bought her a couple of drinks as well (part of the costs above) in the hopes that a threesome might be achievable but the friend was actually waiting for her date who ended up joining us. It was all good fun and we closed out the partying at around 3 am. Once we got back at my place, we showed together and she gave me a nice BBBJ nightcap and we passed out.

One thing I will leave you with is that I am a fairly well-mannered and a very respectful guy when meeting women in general. From time to time I do like to get a bit dirty so I'll visit the MPs but when I am meeting women at places as described above and below I keep it classy, don't make an issue about the money, and put a bit of focus on them. I think that goes a long way in getting the most out of these types of experiences.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2024686]I can recommend Savanna Massage ([URL]http://savannamassagebangkok.com/[/URL]) at Udom Suk 7. A little bit pricier and a rather small lineup but I enjoyed my trips there.

Another good venue for your preferences is Arin Spa at Suphaphong 3 Alley, Lane 8 in Bangna near Seacon Square[/QUOTE]Udom Suk through to Bearing BTS is the Bang Na region (after that Samut Prakan), so Seacon is a bit out (2 km out) of Bang Na. So Arin Spa would be in the Khet (sounds like Kate) (Bangkok District) of Prawet (not exactly well known LOL). Just outside of Phra Khanong district which I am in. Traffic is bad so I usually take motorcycle through back Sois (Sukhumvit Soi 101/1) to get to Seacon shopping centre, starting from near BTS line. Taxi can be bad news at certain times of day (most of the time). There are very limited bridges crossing the canal between Phra Khanong and Prawet districts.

On a tangent:

I hate it when change BTS lines at Siam BTS station and the different BTS lines have all been extended and lines have changed names. Which F'ing line do I need to take? LOL I used to need the Bearing line but its now called the Samrong line. Soon the Line will change name again and will be again confused. Would have been nice to call it the Sukhumvit Line or Sukhumvit-Samrong line would be okay.

So it seems all these places discussed are straight up fuck places as confirmed by your replies to my last question a few days ago.

Where would I go about finding out about places that give good massages with some extra's like HJ or BJ. Emphasis is on the massage not necessarily the extras. Would I be able to find this type thing easily at some random massage place around town or are there specific places as well?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028104]...On a tangent:

I hate it when change BTS lines at Siam BTS station and the different BTS lines have all been extended and lines have changed names. Which F'ing line do I need to take? LOL I used to need the Bearing line but its now called the Samrong line. Soon the Line will change name again and will be again confused. Would have been nice to call it the Sukhumvit Line or Sukhumvit-Samrong line would be okay.[/QUOTE]Thank you Syzygies, for your aside about Samrong BTS station. I didn't realise that the Sukhumvit Line had been extended from Bearing. Your tip will come in useful for my next trip to Bangkok in June.

Some years ago, I was travelling on the BTS from Silom to Sukhumvit, so needed to change trains at Siam. On arrival at Siam Station, there was already a train standing at the opposite platform. Getting a little bit caught up in the rush, I ran across and jumped on the other train. Instead of pulling away from the platform towards Sukhumvit, it headed westwards and then north towards Victory Monument. Somewhat embarrassed, I got out at the next station and crossed over the lines to resume my journey in the correct direction.

Annoyed at my mistake, I worked out that trains leaving from the same level, travel in the same direction. So trains going to National Stadium and Mo Chit are going west so they leave Siam from the same level (top). Conversely trains going to Sukhumvit and Silom leave the station in an easterly direction from the bottom level. Trains on the Sukhumvit Line leave from the north side of the station, whilst Silom Line trains leave from the south side platforms.

So now, just before I arrive at Siam Station I just need to think about which direction I am approaching from and which way I want to go. So if arriving from Sukhumvit, if I want to go to National Stadium I need to stay on the same level, if I want to go to Silom I need to go down to the lower level platform.

I am sure there are other ways of doing this, but this way works for me at least for now.

Apologies for the diversion away from Massage Shops.

How is the scene in massage places such as addict and club 102 after 9 pm? I have only been there early evenings but due to late working hours I can only be there after 9 pm?

[QUOTE=Sum12;2028804]How is the scene in massage places such as addict and club 102 after 9 pm? I have only been there early evenings but due to late working hours I can only be there after 9 pm?[/QUOTE]I think 9PM should be just O.K. I have not visited those two quite so late. I don't have a preference for either of those. Only the girls matter to me. However, generally a line up can be weakened with best girls taken already, if getting there too late. Be prepared to look in quite a few different MPs in the vicinity if no girl takes your fancy.

Near to Those two clubs have: Mango, Orient, EZ, Pink, and it's not far to go to get to Snow White on Soi 26, and numerous other MPs in Soi 26 or Soi 24/1.

You could also get unlucky and choose a girl that had too many sessions already. Try not to make it too much later than 9 PM. The one time I chose a really bad girl from certain places like Boss, or Cherry, or Annies, it tended to be when I arrived too late and line ups were depleted, or crap girls remained. Maybe Vodka at Cherry had fucked too many times and was too tired. Just a theory.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028895]I think 9PM should be just O.K. I have not visited those two quite so late. I don't have a preference for either of those. Only the girls matter to me. However, generally a line up can be weakened with best girls taken already, if getting there too late. Be prepared to look in quite a few different MPs in the vicinity if no girl takes your fancy.

Near to Those two clubs have: Mango, Orient, EZ, Pink, and it's not far to go to get to Snow White on Soi 26, and numerous other MPs in Soi 26 or Soi 24/1.

You could also get unlucky and choose a girl that had too many sessions already. Try not to make it too much later than 9 PM. The one time I chose a really bad girl from certain places like Boss, or Cherry, or Annies, it tended to be when I arrived too late and line ups were depleted, or crap girls remained. Maybe Vodka at Cherry had fucked too many times and was too tired. Just a theory.[/QUOTE]I agree with going to a place late and picking a girl who has been popular, say she started at midday and was busy all the way up to 9 pm when you arrive she could of had 4 or 5 guys already.

Just a quick review since Syggs has posted already about it. I really like this place. The M girls are the best choice in my opinion. Darker skinned ladies are in the 1,700 category. Not to my taste but others will love them. Great value at 1,700. I chose an M lady at 2,600 Baht. Some were 2,800. Anyways some real model types under 3,000 Baht. Will repeat for sure.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2029242]Just a quick review since Syggs has posted already about it. I really like this place. The M girls are the best choice in my opinion. Darker skinned ladies are in the 1,700 category. Not to my taste but others will love them. Great value at 1,700. I chose an M lady at 2,600 Baht. Some were 2,800. Anyways some real model types under 3,000 Baht. Will repeat for sure.[/QUOTE]I don't mind girls having darker skin at all. Good looks is not about that for me.

Do you think any looked as good as your S22 at Merci? I thought Ocean line up was quite variable form one day to another. Perhaps same for all these places. Even The Lord line up varied a lot especially in the stunners category. I am still wanting to see K35 again. Was exceptional looking. Makes me think attendance on optimal day and time can be important, and willingness to sit for a bit till the right girl appears. Maybe that is just me and normal people will always find something in a good sized line up.

A lot of us suffer from mongers' syndrome, the "fear of missing out" on a super special girl, that others got to fuck. Sometimes only the best will do. In the modern day I find myself leaving venues unfucked many times, and even going home unfucked, simply because the perfect girl is not there at the right time.

The other common probably is seeing a prettier girl on the way out of a Soapy but have already sessioned. Happened far too often. I then have to note down the girl number for next time. At Tarawadee that super girl with big naturals and stunning face, never became available to me, despite numerous attempts to book her, after sighting her just once. Maybe she doesn't do Farangs and they just didn't want to tell me that.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2029242]Just a quick review since Syggs has posted already about it. I really like this place. The M girls are the best choice in my opinion. Darker skinned ladies are in the 1,700 category. Not to my taste but others will love them. Great value at 1,700. I chose an M lady at 2,600 Baht. Some were 2,800. Anyways some real model types under 3,000 Baht. Will repeat for sure.[/QUOTE]Some day soon I will check out Meree and Nancy, since I know the prices there start equally low like Ocean. Perhaps Catherine, Colonze as well. Low prices itself is not enough. Some of the places may not have enough girls concurrently in the line up, or just uglies. Places like Biwa, Hawaii, Riviera, Sai Fon, etc. Tended to be in this category, of very low prices but few girls, and girls just too old and ugly to be worth going there. Noar was one with a reasonable line up years ago. I would look there again. Close to junction of Ekkamai and Rama 9. Not exactly convenient to all.

La Defense was slightly more up market then the others mentioned with girls unfortunately used to mostly East Asian customers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029247]
I thought Ocean line up was quite variable form one day to another. Perhaps same for all these places. Even The Lord line up varied a lot especially in the stunners category. I am still wanting to see K35 again. Was exceptional looking. Makes me think attendance on optimal day and time can be important, and willingness to sit for a bit till the right girl appears. Maybe that is just me and normal people will always find something in a good sized line up.[/QUOTE]This is quite true. BTW, do you go upstairs where the models are? That too is quite variable as well, in terms of what talent is there or not. Wit ratchada soapies, I have always had great results when I walk into probably most all of them. So often that nothing is available. I think this may have to do more with customers than with the girls. A group of 3-5 thai men could buy the girls up for 2-4 hours in the penthouse rooms maybe? Also, I found that guys would often show up to meet their pre-booked girl. So there is a hidden layer of talent with girls who don't even sit outside. I saw you also posted about melee so I'll segue into that in the next paragraph.

Meree (or melee) is probably crap now. I used to really like the place, a lot, back in 2013 and also wasn't too bad in early 2015. But I think it has declined a lot. Nearby there is a place called avita and it is mostly dead in there. It's guys who mostly all pre-book, but there is talent in there, at least in 2013. I was once there and for some reason waited like 30 minutes (noting to do) and papasan brought out this really gorgeous petite girl (the kind that would get sponsored so fast if she worked in a gogo). She gave BBBJ in the hottob and was super flirty and GFE the entire session, not the standard script. And it only cost like 1900 baht! Anyway, that was AVITA, not melee. Melee is about 200-500 baht more expensive, but has many more girls working if you just walk right in. However, I have been to Melee 3 times in the past year, all bad selection. Just such ugly girls, not even average looking. They used to have really gorgeous and doable women. Well they still do have some models, just not as many actually. I think you could give it a try, just keep in mind that the better talent is kind of kept out of the viewing area and it helps to get the papasan's LINE and he'll shoot you over photos of the real talent.

I was at the lord yesterday since Nataree is now closed they have some nice tall model there price is 4500 same as Poseidon 3 floor but girl don't do BBBJ j,also check out Hi class low end place didn't see anyone doable same girl don't offer BBBJ price start at 1700 bht same as the Ocean.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2029437]This is quite true. BTW, do you go upstairs where the models are? That too is quite variable as well, in terms of what talent is there or not. Wit ratchada soapies, I have always had great results when I walk into probably most all of them. So often that nothing is available. I think this may have to do more with customers than with the girls. A group of 3-5 thai men could buy the girls up for 2-4 hours in the penthouse rooms maybe? Also, I found that guys would often show up to meet their pre-booked girl. So there is a hidden layer of talent with girls who don't even sit outside. I saw you also posted about melee so I'll segue into that in the next paragraph.

Meree (or melee) is probably crap now. I used to really like the place, a lot, back in 2013 and also wasn't too bad in early 2015. But I think it has declined a lot. Nearby there is a place called avita and it is mostly dead in there. It's guys who mostly all pre-book, but there is talent in there, at least in 2013. I was once there and for some reason waited like 30 minutes (noting to do) and papasan brought out this really gorgeous petite girl (the kind that would get sponsored so fast if she worked in a gogo). She gave BBBJ in the hottob and was super flirty and GFE the entire session, not the standard script. And it only cost like 1900 baht! Anyway, that was AVITA, not melee. Melee is about 200-500 baht more expensive, but has many more girls working if you just walk right in. However, I have been to Melee 3 times in the past year, all bad selection. Just such ugly girls, not even average looking. They used to have really gorgeous and doable women. Well they still do have some models, just not as many actually. I think you could give it a try, just keep in mind that the better talent is kind of kept out of the viewing area and it helps to get the papasan's LINE and he'll shoot you over photos of the real talent.[/QUOTE]When you say models upstairs, you need to be specific which place you are talking about. Poseidon has "models" upstairs, but they were not special enough to interest me. I was not introduced to The Lord girls upstairs, not sure if they had that, unless it was the very top categories XL and XX. I don't recall seeing any of those, but their prices were really high. Ocean had upstairs area but there were no girls there.

My visits to Meree (sounds like May-ree) and Evita (sounds like Ay-wee-taa) were more like 2008 or 2009, so I have no clue what they are like now. It's good that these two are right opposite each other. 80% of Soapies have declined over the years. The poor state of the economy means Thais with money to spend on girls has declined a lot. Meree and Evita would cater to mainly Thais, I suspect. Thanks for tips about the hidden talent. Unfortunately Papasan Spec is rarely similar to mine. I never even managed to find a girl good enough looking at Nancy (Colonze 4 or is it 3?) so I would start pessimistic about Meree too. I think it is critical to show up at an optimal time. e.g. I previously went to Victoria Secret in daytime, to ensure I could find it, and line up was just to tiny daytime.

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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029644]Ocean had upstairs area but there were no girls there.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/vHPABFyoWLQ2[/URL][/QUOTE]About a year ago there were models upstairs at Ocean. Sometimes good choices, othertimes all bad. Often times the papa / mama sans were reluctant to let me go up but of course, if they suspect that's all I'm interested in then I may go up.

So it's the Thai economy that is causing the soapies to be so bad? It had the slowest recent growth in 2014 (. 8% GDP growth), and this was when things were doing alright. It seems right around mid-2015 is when things got bad in soapies / elsewhere. And the GDP growth has been: 2015 (2.8%) 2016 (3. 1%) and 2017 (3. 2%).

I just came back from club 102 first time there is a nice place own by a french guy with french design even smell like a french working girl house about 15 girl available half is very good looking but they are busy no room available for 40 min so I left and go to addict next door only 4 girl none that I like, I will go back to the hotel take get some sleep and go back to club 102 tonight.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2029708]About a year ago there were models upstairs at Ocean. Sometimes good choices, othertimes all bad. Often times the papa / mama sans were reluctant to let me go up but of course, if they suspect that's all I'm interested in then I may go up.

So it's the Thai economy that is causing the soapies to be so bad? It had the slowest recent growth in 2014 (. 8% GDP growth), and this was when things were doing alright. It seems right around mid-2015 is when things got bad in soapies / elsewhere. And the GDP growth has been: 2015 (2.8%) 2016 (3. 1%) and 2017 (3. 2%).[/QUOTE]The upstairs at Ocean was just one floor up? If so I saw that area on the way out, but there were not any girls there. It was empty.

Yes the total numbers of customers at many Soapies declined badly since quite a number of years. The numbers of girls has dropped accordingly. Soapies in pre crash 2007 were going much better than now. Some closed completely, others were vastly reduced. The exact reasons, are probably many.

Thaksin came to power around 2001 and this marked the start of a decline shortly afterwards, due to clean out by some extra religious guy in the parliament of young girls and girls from Myanmar (Tai-yai). All working girls had to have registration papers etc.

Little doubt the financial troubles of 2007-2008 caused an acceleration of decline. Guys just did not have money for FKK. The economy never fully recovered. The Baht to the Dollar stayed high compared to former times. Thais in general believe the economy is quite poor right now, under the military government. Getting money is considered more difficult than in the Thaksin spurge years. Also the new government started a new cleanout of supposedly "Trafficked" girls. In old times, the non Thai girls and young girls were very popular.

Emannuelle declined very badly I thought until it got it's boost by merging with Amsterdam. I was previously an Amsterdam customer.

So the big decline in Soapies is not just about the most recent years, it has been happening for a long while. I was a big fan of Chao Praya 2 with a large girl line up, up until about 2005 or 2006, when the decline was already happening despite not having reached the stock market crash. Returning after the crash, the line up was decimated. No comparison to its former glory years. So back in those times, I started surveying lots of other Soapies. I had been using also J One, Mona Lisa, Cleopatra, Bangkok Cozy, Nataree and Poseidon sometimes. Several of these closed. Utopia was going strong before the crash but was also decimated. It was a high class place not so cheap. The Plan to build La Belle in place of Mona Lisa came at exactly the wrong time. I assume investors lost on that one big time.

Yet amazingly new Soapies do pop up, e.g. Soulmate on Rama 9 close to The Office (formerly ChaiLai and then called Colonze 4).

All dear fellow mongers and friends,

Would like to share with you a place which strictly should be avoided at all costs, I had the worst experience ever at a massage parlor today, namely B&B massage in sukhumvit soi 24/1.

I wanted to be a bit selective as it is my last day here, and wanted to leave on a memorable note, started off by visiting Mango, small selection only 4 ladies, no lookers, went on to 102 massage next door, 4 girls again and 2 Japanese customers already. Had seen a trio of young Korean boys on the hunt coming out already disappointed. Said thank you and left from there as well, next door into addict massage which was already displaying their collection to 2 Japanese and one Indian customer, fancied one Dame but she immediately got chosen by the Indian customer, so off I went to try my luck at 24/1 in the next lane, Lane seemed empty as not many girls were sitting outside, probably it was very hot to sit outside this time of the day anyway now comes my big mistake, saw few ladies lined inside B&B massage for a Japanese client who was about to get up without choosing anyone. I walk I and he says his thank you to all the ladies and leaves (wise man now I think), I sat in his place and was gazing at a collection of 8 slim girls. With 4 of them especially smiling at me. This place was more expensive than the others I generally go in for 2 hours however their 1.5 hrs options was for 2500, Snow white or Mango charge about 2300 for 2 hrs. Anyway thought it's my last day, let me try 2 today (big mistake), so I chose these 2 called gao and Sam, both held me from the sides and started to take me up to a room with a tub, one excused herself and went to fetch the bathing gear, the other asked me to strip, I asked her won't you take off my clothes. She was like no, I stripped. She said massage first lie down on your back, she then came upon me and started pressing my back, with her clothes on, I asked her to strip, to which she replied, she would take them off in the shower, pressed a few places. Things started going downhill from there only, A very bad massage I would say, the other girl then walked in, and invited me to the tub, at least her clothes were off, just washed me I a few places. No fondling, no foreplay, no kissing, just washed me, till them the first one took off her clothes finally and joined us. Let me touch her in a few places but with a lot of reluctance. I had started to feel off mood already. Anyway we proceed to the bed, again they ask me to lie down on by back and start putting some kind of weird gel on my back. Which hardly lubricates, I tried touching them but they kept backing off, neither of them allowed me to kiss her, I tried to do those several things that a man would do during the massage but no response. Anyway one of them slides down towards my little man, plays a bit with him and puts on some lubricant and slides on a condom, I was like what about the smoke (BBBJ) and both of them started talking to each other, in the middle one of the phone beeped and she picked it up to reply to a line message. That blew my lid off. I was like fuck the 5000 baht it is my last day I don't want to ruin it, there are limited times I can cum in a day, I will not waste them on this trash, I asked both of them to back off, to which the first one understood that I am unhappy, she started to kiss me and saying sorry, I told her to let me go, I was not interested any more. She said shower. I said no, took my clothes and started to walk away, both of them pleaded me to stay, nothing was going to stop me, both of them hurried up and dressed, seemed they were afraid that they would get into trouble if the management saw me walking down alone, anyway so I did. Both of them came running behind me, the mamasan and the manager asked me how it was. I simply replied it was very bad I did not enjoy myself see I am leaving in 40 min, I have paid for 90, she didn't seem very happy to know it, I walked out fast, still had some juice left in me, went over to cherry massage, I had to pacify myself, did not want to go back sad, spoke to the nice Mam San over there, told her what I wanted she showed me 5 ladies. Though there were more Inside. Chose emmy and had an amazing 120 minutes with her.

During my session with Emmy I kept introspection and thinking what was wrong and where and now I know the answer. Only go by what the forum says, don't try any of these weird places, maybe it's what the Japanese want, but even that is weird. I will also add photos of this place later so that all of you know exactly what I am talking about. Adios.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029725]The upstairs at Ocean was just one floor up? If so I saw that area on the way out, but there were not any girls there. It was empty.

Yes the total numbers of customers at many Soapies declined badly since quite a number of years. The numbers of girls has dropped accordingly. Soapies in pre crash 2007 were going much better than now. Some closed completely, others were vastly reduced. The exact reasons, are probably many.

Thaksin came to power around 2001 and this marked the start of a decline shortly afterwards, due to clean out by some extra religious guy in the parliament of young girls and girls from Myanmar (Tai-yai). All working girls had to have registration papers etc.

Little doubt the financial troubles of 2007-2008 caused an acceleration of decline. Guys just did not have money for FKK. The economy never fully recovered. The Baht to the Dollar stayed high compared to former times. Thais in general believe the economy is quite poor right now, under the military government. Getting money is considered more difficult than in the Thaksin spurge years. Also the new government started a new cleanout of supposedly "Trafficked" girls. In old times, the non Thai girls and young girls were very popular.

Emannuelle declined very badly I thought until it got it's boost by merging with Amsterdam. I was previously an Amsterdam customer..[/QUOTE]I think the internet and proliferation of online social media are actually more to blame. The economy actually rebounded from 2010-2014 due to Bangkok being seen as a potential business / lifestyle center in addition to the massive influx of tourists. Thailand was the place to travel to for a good 3-4 year stretch. During this time, a lot of the hotter ladies skipped entering the sex scene and instead partied for 4 years with all of the young men who flocked here to party full-moon style.

I would also estimate that the vast majority the women who are choosing to enter the trade are being their own mamasans and meeting customers online.

It's crazy how many of these new condos are being used as short time rooms.

[QUOTE=Citizen;2029738]
During my session with Emmy I kept introspection and thinking what was wrong and where and now I know the answer. Only go by what the forum says, don't try any of these weird places, maybe it's what the Japanese want, but even that is weird. I will also add photos of this place later so that all of you know exactly what I am talking about. Adios.[/QUOTE]I'm reluctant to try out unknown places for the same reason. B&B got some bad reviews on this forum, apart from some weird newbie who brought his own music player and then started weeping with emotion.

How did your session with Ninja go by the way? I haven't booked her for a few weeks as her service standards were disappointing last time, but maybe that's just me.

[QUOTE=*****man;2029935]I'm reluctant to try out unknown places for the same reason. B&B got some bad reviews on this forum, apart from some weird newbie who brought his own music player and then started weeping with emotion.

How did your session with Ninja go by the way? I haven't booked her for a few weeks as her service standards were disappointing last time, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]Ninja was nice not exceptional, I am not an anal guy, and maybe she specialises in it, she is nice and bubbly, and having heard so much about her in the forum I had to try her. Snow white however never disappoints on the whole, my favorite in snow white would be Emmy with whom I had a nice session last time, she was missing in action this time due to an accident, some other time perhaps. Wish I had done more through Rttf and not wasted my time & money on B&B massage. For me more than anything it is the wasted opportunity that will haunt me later back home.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2029844]I think the internet and proliferation of online social media are actually more to blame. The economy actually rebounded from 2010-2014 due to Bangkok being seen as a potential business / lifestyle center in addition to the massive influx of tourists. Thailand was the place to travel to for a good 3-4 year stretch. During this time, a lot of the hotter ladies skipped entering the sex scene and instead partied for 4 years with all of the young men who flocked here to party full-moon style.
[/QUOTE]The economy was never that good under Yingluck. Sure some improvement from the financial crises had to occur, but never a full recovery, and economy has never been actually good since then. Southern Thais were hurting when the rubber industry bottomed out. Common people were hurting as prices for cooking gas went up a lot while price of fuel dropped encouraging higher use of cars, when traffic jams already bad. Stupid policies of Yingluck caused most of economy to go bad again.

For the Soapy Industry in Bangkok, what the tourists are doing is mostly irrelevant. Tourists would make up a very small portion of the business that Soapies used to do in the good years. The major customers are Thais, plus foreigners (a lot Asian) that have lived and worked here for a significant time.

Tourists would be much more relevant to Soapies in Pattaya and Patong Beach, not so much in Chiang Mai.

A bit fanciful, the bit about partying for 4 years.

Obviously online sex hookup has an effect on all mongering. Does this make many Thais change from a Soapy visit? Who knows? I suspect not, because online hook-ups take a lot of time and research. Thai men that visit Soapies are known to be normally changing girls very frequently, as they like variety, and wish to avoid getting hooked on particular girls. Thais with wives have not got the time to do this research online to get a continuous stream of new girls, I am guessing, and would get caught. Maybe they want girls dressed as school girls at Kapoo club "spas".

The discussion about Thailand's economy belongs in the general thread, doesn't it? Or the Lounge and Chat thread.

[QUOTE=*****man;2030236]The discussion about Thailand's economy belongs in the general thread, doesn't it? Or the Lounge and Chat thread.[/QUOTE]555 The discussion started off being about the general decline of the Soapy Massage industry in Bangkok and the reasons, so not entirely out of context. Only a few comments were about the economy (the first paragraph of my last post), and it having affect on declining customers. Maybe you missed the rest of the post, due to being bored so quickly.

It would indeed be nice if we had separate threads for Soapies and for Oilies in Bangkok so you would not have to bother with the Soapies thread. Annies would keep it's own thread because to me it's somewhat of an Oily like shop masquerading as a Soapy by having a bath and fishtank, but nothing like all the other Soapies in style.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2030247]555 The discussion started off being about the general decline of the Soapy Massage industry in Bangkok and the reasons, so not entirely out of context. Only a few comments were about the economy (the first paragraph of my last post), and it having affect on declining customers. Maybe you missed the rest of the post, due to being bored so quickly.

It would indeed be nice if we had separate threads for Soapies and for Oilies in Bangkok so you would not have to bother with the Soapies thread. Annies would keep it's own thread because to me it's somewhat of an Oily like shop masquerading as a Soapy by having a bath and fishtank, but nothing like all the other Soapies in style.[/QUOTE]I go to soapies every now and again but have no interest in your theories on the link between their quality and the economy. It's not at all relevant.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2030207]The economy was never that good under Yingluck. Sure some improvement from the financial crises had to occur, but never a full recovery, and economy has never been actually good since then. Southern Thais were hurting when the rubber industry bottomed out. Common people were hurting as prices for cooking gas went up a lot while price of fuel dropped encouraging higher use of cars, when traffic jams already bad. Stupid policies of Yingluck caused most of economy to go bad again.

For the Soapy Industry in Bangkok, what the tourists are doing is mostly irrelevant. Tourists would make up a very small portion of the business that Soapies used to do in the good years. The major customers are Thais, plus foreigners (a lot Asian) that have lived and worked here for a significant time.

Tourists would be much more relevant to Soapies in Pattaya and Patong Beach, not so much in Chiang Mai.

A bit fanciful, the bit about partying for 4 years.

Obviously online sex hookup has an effect on all mongering. Does this make many Thais change from a Soapy visit? Who knows? I suspect not, because online hook-ups take a lot of time and research. Thai men that visit Soapies are known to be normally changing girls very frequently, as they like variety, and wish to avoid getting hooked on particular girls. Thais with wives have not got the time to do this research online to get a continuous stream of new girls, I am guessing, and would get caught. Maybe they want girls dressed as school girls at Kapoo club "spas".[/QUOTE]I wasn't directly relating the boom in tourism to foot traffic in the soapies but anyone who has lived here on and off for the last 15 odd years could easily see a massive amount of development that started around 2010. Bangkok isn't the same city that it was 10 years ago with most of the changes happening in the last 5 years. You also underestimate the tourism boom that took place that starting around 2010 and peaked in 2014. It created a much larger middle class than has ever existed in Thailand.

A lot of the more beautiful women who would have entered the farang oriented sex scene traveled south to the islands or flooded Khao San Road and did in fact become party hostesses to a lot of young traveling foreigners. The online scene is also the dominant portal for accessing P4P ladies these days. The convenience, freedom, and profitability is just too hard to resist and it's not as difficult to arrange a date as you make it out to be, in fact it's actually quite easy in addition to being much cheaper than the MPs. Many of these ladies that are online either have their own condo for meetings or work out of brothel style houses located in residential neighborhoods.

Yes, rubber tree farmers have been hurting but that's because too many people invested in rubber tree farms but people who invested in tourism, manuf, food processing, the financial sector, and farmers who have diversified their crops did and continue to do extremely well. There is plenty of money in circulation at the moment and enough of it is in the hands of the general public to be able to visit a MP and to avoid having to work in them.

Had to try this place out today to see if it is as bad as you all say. All the ladies were dressed in these sexy daisy duke shorts that I really love. I chose number 20 who is 20 years old. She was inexperienced but I actually enjoyed taking charge in the session which is normally not the case with me at an oily. I normally let the massage girls take the lead unlike freelancers and go go girls. I chose the 2 hour jacuzzi option for 3,400. The session in itself was good and I was able to get good millege from this 3 week in the business lady if the members can read between the lines.

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

Body: 6/10.

Repeat: no because many other options for the same or lower price with better looking ladies.

Be & B massage seems to have gotten a bad rep. Believe me that they know this. My girl insisted I comment on her service to the manager on my way out. The manager asked me before I could even enter the lobby from the back stairs. Maybe this is a welcome change, The lineup was small with about 8 ladies at 1:30 PM today.

Wanted to look in some more soapies.

Firstly taxi on expressway to Noar Cafe, now seems to be called the Bank. Girl rings her husband and asks him where he is. He says I am at The Bank. LOL She is puzzled since wonders if the bank should be still. Open at 6. 30 PM.

Noar had a lot more girls 10 years ago and had a fishbowl.

Now the line up has about 10 girls at 7 pm and prices started at 2700 or was it 2900. Almost all girls had nose jobs so which ones were acceptable? Was looking at just two girls. One seemed a bit flabby. The other slim but marks on legs and nose a bit too prominent. Was not convinced. Took a motorcycle to Junction of Petchburi and Ekkamai.

Evita (Ay-wee-tah). On the north side of Petchburi road just east of Ekkamai road. Meree (May-ree) is right opposite but I did not go in there as things turned out.

Prices started at 1700 for fishbowl girls. Maybe 8 girls in there. One had my attention. Good figure but big nose. Looked at the M level sideline girls. About 7 girls in the M section. Just one I really liked. She hardly looked up. Busy with phone? Anyway slim and petite with cute little nose. Decided to take her. Price 2000.

Her name was Oan (sounds like On I guess) (don't know how she spells it perhaps Aon). Said she was not scared of big Farangs.

Turns out I got lucky in several ways. Age 25 no babies. Does not smoke. No tats. No Piercings. Just ACups but nice shape. Nice nipples. Plenty of soft tit to grab so not tiny tits. Very curvy small waist to broader thigh but slim legs.

Seemed quite shy in the bath.

On the bed was shy too. Using legs to hide her pussy. Her pussy was very beautiful. LFK to start. Shy at start of trying to DATY her. Soon she got into it big time. Probably gave her DATY for 29 minutes. Her hips undulated and squirmed but used her hand to hold my head to the spot. She definitely liked it. No signs of wanting to quit it till right at end may jave been too sensitive.

Gave a little BBBJ while I fingered her. Fucking lasted a long time in a few positions. DFK was good. Tongue play. She had forgotten the shyness. Her ass was real nice looking in doggy fucking.

Finally she finished me off with a BBBJ while I still had digits in her very smooth wet pussy. We went to clean up. The phone rang to indicate our 2 hours was up. I was very greatful that the session was not just 90 minutes.

Hard to fault her other than starting off shy and having teeth braces which did nit interfere with DFK. Or with nice soft smooth BBBJ. She learned what I liked quickly able to slow down her pace to suit me.

I hate taking newbie girls. Girls with some experience who know what they are doing is better. First really good fun GFE, new to me, soapy girl I had for many months. Definite repeat. Today got lucky. Do need luck to find the right soapy girl that really likes cock and has stamina to go extended fuck and is good looking, face, body, and pussy.

Cost 2000 plus transport to get there plus 40 Baht drinks plus tips. Came back to Sukumvit by Motorcycle.

She had a nose job but most guys could not tell. Was very subtle increase in nose bridge. Very straight. No exposed nostrils or sharp section. I am OK with such an expert job.

So my recent experience with trying soapy girls first time. One average girl at Darling last year before it closed, one disaster girl, one ok but average girl and finally a really good girl I would do again. Its always a roll of the dice.

I can probably do her 3 times for the price of a top girl from The Lord. It's good to collect some moderate price repeat girls cheaper than my bar girls favourites.

Face 7 tits 7 rest of body 8 pussy 9, gfe/dfk 8. Good standard across all aspects. Great VFM for my specs. Not quite the prettiest face I fucked this year but still very nice.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2029247]I don't mind girls having darker skin at all. Good looks is not about that for me.

Do you think any looked as good as your S22 at Merci? [/QUOTE]I would say about 5 or 6 were just as good if not better.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2030830]Probably gave her DATY for 29 minutes. [/QUOTE]That was a typo as you could probably guess. Should have been 20 minutes. A very long DATY anyway. Was fortunate I had 2 hours in total.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2030779]Had to try this place out today to see if it is as bad as you all say. All the ladies were dressed in these sexy daisy duke shorts that I really love. I chose number 20 who is 20 years old. She was inexperienced but I actually enjoyed taking charge in the session which is normally not the case with me at an oily. I normally let the massage girls take the lead unlike freelancers and go go girls. I chose the 2 hour jacuzzi option for 3,400. The session in itself was good and I was able to get good millege from this 3 week in the business lady if the members can read between the lines.

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

Body: 6/10.

Repeat: no because many other options for the same or lower price with better looking ladies.

Be & B massage seems to have gotten a bad rep. Believe me that they know this. My girl insisted I comment on her service to the manager on my way out. The manager asked me before I could even enter the lobby from the back stairs. Maybe this is a welcome change, The lineup was small with about 8 ladies at 1:30 PM today.[/QUOTE]That is pretty bold move, I thought mostly people will avoid the place after my report, anyway you are right the girls are mostly in experienced, I tried to take charge as well, however the girls would not let me do anything at all, and obviously one cannot force their way, but I am glad you got your money's worth and did enjoy yourself.

And yes I do agree with you that the management is aware of the fact that they have a bad reputation, being in an alley which is full of massage places, with options like snow white and cherry in the same lane, they need to do something better, probably their strategy is to have younger girls, but in my opinion their inexperience seems to getting the worse of it. In the time of such stiff competition having higher prices than your competitors with inexperienced and unwilling staff seems to be a bad business formula to me.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2030830]
Evita (Ay-wee-tah). On the north side of Petchburi road just east of Ekkamai road. Meree (May-ree) is right opposite but I did not go in there as things turned out.

Prices started at 1700 for fishbowl girls. Maybe 8 girls in there. One had my attention. Good figure but big nose. Looked at the M level sideline girls. About 7 girls in the M section. Just one I really liked. She hardly looked up. Busy with phone? Anyway slim and petite with cute little nose. Decided to take her. Price 2000.

Her name was Oan (sounds like On I guess) (don't know how she spells it perhaps Aon). Said she was not scared of big Farangs.

Turns out I got lucky in several ways. Age 25 no babies. Does not smoke. No tats. No Piercings. Just ACups but nice shape. Nice nipples. Plenty of soft tit to grab so not tiny tits. Very curvy small waist to broader thigh but slim legs.
[/QUOTE]Good report! I visited Evita in the past but the girls were a bit mature for my tastes so never partook. Did you see any girls a bit younger, like early 20's?

[QUOTE=*****man;2031132]Good report! I visited Evita in the past but the girls were a bit mature for my tastes so never partook. Did you see any girls a bit younger, like early 20's?[/QUOTE]Sorry 25 YO was just perfect for me. She did not show signs of deterioration in face or body. I did not pay particular attention to exact age they looked. Some could have been younger. If pretty and in good shape I care little about actual age. If not pretty, I am not interested to pay attention to age. It did not give the same impression of being like Nataree with below age girls.

I know many guys see that good-body + Young-age = beauty, but that is completely wrong for me. I need beautiful face, or at least well above average. If a girl has real beauty it will not have faded before 30 Years. Body can be less perfect for me.

Evita girls did not strike me as being too old, like I experienced previously at some other places like Biwa, Sai Fon, Christina, Annies, Darling, etc.

However only two girls out of the bunch really interested me for further attention. Rest not sufficiently my spec. I don't think you can expect to get PSE at these places.

I am still awaiting a call to go do Yok at Emannuelle who I fucked 9 years ago, more than once, and had a great body at the time. I don't know her age, and don't care. Face is still okay For me. Hope the tits did not shrink too much.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2030584]The online scene is also the dominant portal for accessing P4P ladies these days. The convenience, freedom, and profitability is just too hard to resist and it's not as difficult to arrange a date as you make it out to be, in fact it's actually quite easy in addition to being much cheaper than the MPs. Many of these ladies that are online either have their own condo for meetings or work out of brothel style houses located in residential neighborhoods.[/QUOTE]Please, tell us the secret, where is that fabulous online P4 P scene which is now the dominant way of mongering?

The obvious one is [URL]smooci.com[/URL], an agglomeration of escort agencies (no independents), with perhaps 100 girls total, about 2 good agogo bars' worth from the good old days. Nice, yes, but not a "dominant portal" for sure. There are Craigslist / Backpage, but those show a very small number of girls (20-30), and on Backpage most seem to be from one or two agencies, not independent. There is a smattering of Thai-language forums, but no major portal. We shouldn't even count the general dating sites / apps (like ThaiFriendly or Tinder), which are 95% normal girls, don't even specifically label working girls and even delete profiles which are too obviously P4 P.

So, what am I missing here? Is there anything like the 141 sites for Hong Kong, sufficiently large and clearly geared at P4 P?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2031137]Please, tell us the secret, where is that fabulous online P4 P scene which is now the dominant way of mongering?

The obvious one is [URL]smooci.com[/URL], an agglomeration of escort agencies (no independents), with perhaps 100 girls total, about 2 good agogo bars' worth from the good old days. Nice, yes, but not a "dominant portal" for sure. There are Craigslist / Backpage, but those show a very small number of girls (20-30), and on Backpage most seem to be from one or two agencies, not independent. There is a smattering of Thai-language forums, but no major portal. We shouldn't even count the general dating sites / apps (like ThaiFriendly or Tinder), which are 95% normal girls, don't even specifically label working girls and even delete profiles which are too obviously P4 P.

So, what am I missing here? Is there anything like the 141 sites for Hong Kong, sufficiently large and clearly geared at P4 P?[/QUOTE]You can't compare HK to TH when it comes to this sort of thing. Regardless of openness of places like Nana and Soi Cowboy, prostitution is still illegal and the general consensus is sex is still best kept behind closed doors. And unlike in the past where crackdowns were more of a show of well a show, we are seeing a more systematic approach these days with the end goal being a re-branding of Thailand. This has pushed the majority of the scene below ground.

Sites as obvious as CL are not the norm but its mostly trolls and ladyboys so there isn't much attention paid to it. So, while Tinder, TF, and WeChat may seeem like they are predominantly 'regular' ladies there are way more than 5% on these sites offering services, they just can't do it blatantly but if you hit up the clubs and lounges you'll see the ladies that are FLing and then see them on Tinder or you will be propositioned after starting up a regular chat with a lady the strikes your fancy.

So, in order to really maximize your options, you have to read between the lines and explore a bit. Most of my P4P online social network started with a Tinder or TF contact or word of mouth from Thai friends and colleagues. It's not uncommon to get linked into a group of FLers just from a single Tinder meetup or from browsing a past hookup's fb friend list. This may sound like a lot of work but its really not if you've become accustomed to making social connections online.

When you add up Tinder, TF, WeChat, FB, Line, the Thai sites, Japanese and Korean sites, smooci, etc. You will see that there are still a lot of ladies out there to choose from they have just become more specialized in who they want to cater to.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2031137]Please, tell us the secret, where is that fabulous online P4 P scene which is now the dominant way of mongering?

The obvious one is [URL]smooci.com[/URL], an agglomeration of escort agencies (no independents), with perhaps 100 girls total, about 2 good agogo bars' worth from the good old days. Nice, yes, but not a "dominant portal" for sure. There are Craigslist / Backpage, but those show a very small number of girls (20-30), and on Backpage most seem to be from one or two agencies, not independent. There is a smattering of Thai-language forums, but no major portal. We shouldn't even count the general dating sites / apps (like ThaiFriendly or Tinder), which are 95% normal girls, don't even specifically label working girls and even delete profiles which are too obviously P4 P.

So, what am I missing here? Is there anything like the 141 sites for Hong Kong, sufficiently large and clearly geared at P4 P?[/QUOTE]You are not getting the point. If you read the user blogs you would see. Let's start with the obvious. We Chat is the major player in this. If you play the people nearby option, 80% of the ladies and 99% of the Ladyboys are looking for P4 P. The we chat girls will often put the words call girl right in their profile for you to see in the list of females near you.

Next is Badoo, where about 60-70% are looking for P4 P. It has a location based search option with the app or a web based option as well.

After that would be Thai Friendly where about 30% are looking for P4 P and another 20% will consider it for the right offer and punter. Has an app and a web based option.

You've already mentioned Craig's list so no need to quote stats.

Finally, there are the more Thai oriented Sideline sites and BeeTalk application. I've actually had the est results from Bee Talk where about 40% are looking for P4P but you need some smooth skills.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2031174]So, in order to really maximize your options, you have to read between the lines and explore a bit. Most of my P4P online social network started with a Tinder or TF contact or word of mouth from Thai friends and colleagues. It's not uncommon to get linked into a group of FLers just from a single Tinder meetup or from browsing a past hookup's fb friend list. This may sound like a lot of work but its really not if you've become accustomed to making social connections online.[/QUOTE]Call me old fashioned, but what you described seems to combine all the disadvantages of meeting regular girls (having to trudge through many profiles and have mind-numbing online chats with an unknown outcome, arrange to meet them, suffer through no-shows and different looks in person), with all the disadvantages of hookers (having to pay for it, a girl who had well over 500 dicks and a corresponding level of enthusiasm for the next one).

For me, the main attractions of P4 P are choice and immediacy -- you go to a venue pick a girl among many available choices, and get to have sex in about half an hour. That's worth paying for. Sites like HK 141 come close to that -- browse through photos with price / services listed, make a call, show up, have sex. Not quite as good as browsing freelancers or bargirls in real life, but I can see the attraction.

If I have to work on [I]maybe[/I] meeting someone whose photo I found attractive online [I]some time down the line[/I], and then pay good money for it too, may well just jerk off and congratulate myself on saving 2-3000 baht.

For anyone under 45 or so, if you're going to take the time to sort through all the online muck anyway, it seems to me that it's way better to focus on regular girls. At least they have some repeat potential, and are likely to be genuinely interested. Sure, they might have a lower hit rate than hookers, but you're spending the time anyway, and might actually meet someone nice and genuine, as opposed to just another blind-date hooker.

I can see how it might work for a Granddaddy, or someone who'd have a low hit rate with civilians. Don't take this badly, not putting you down at all, I'll get to that age someday too. At a certain age, you probably get the advantage of 30%-70% of the girls who reply to you online being P4 P, unfortunately for me that ratio is well under 10% on ThaiFriendly.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2031299]Call me old fashioned, but what you described seems to combine all the disadvantages of meeting regular girls (having to trudge through many profiles and have mind-numbing online chats with an unknown outcome, arrange to meet them, suffer through no-shows and different looks in person), with all the disadvantages of hookers (having to pay for it, a girl who had well over 500 dicks and a corresponding level of enthusiasm for the next one).

For me, the main attractions of P4 P are choice and immediacy -- you go to a venue pick a girl among many available choices, and get to have sex in about half an hour. That's worth paying for. Sites like HK 141 come close to that -- browse through photos with price / services listed, make a call, show up, have sex. Not quite as good as browsing freelancers or bargirls in real life, but I can see the attraction.

If I have to work on [I]maybe[/I] meeting someone whose photo I found attractive online [I]some time down the line[/I], and then pay good money for it too, may well just jerk off and congratulate myself on saving 2-3000 baht.

For anyone under 45 or so, if you're going to take the time to sort through all the online muck anyway, it seems to me that it's way better to focus on regular girls. At least they have some repeat potential, and are likely to be genuinely interested. Sure, they might have a lower hit rate than hookers, but you're spending the time anyway, and might actually meet someone nice and genuine, as opposed to just another blind-date hooker.

I can see how it might work for a Granddaddy, or someone who'd have a low hit rate with civilians. Don't take this badly, not putting you down at all, I'll get to that age someday too. At a certain age, you probably get the advantage of 30%-70% of the girls who reply to you online being P4 P, unfortunately for me that ratio is well under 10% on ThaiFriendly.[/QUOTE]Again you are missing the point. Let me explain further. You are on Sukhumvit Soi 11 in the Australian pub for example. You open We Chat and click on the people nearby option. You can then either sit back and wait just a few minutes to receive countless friend requests from the P4 P ladies. Or secondly, you can search profiles and send them friend requests. Once you or them accept, the meet up can happen within a few minutes. Let me give you a personal example. Last year I was in Climax, I was not thrilled with the girls in the club that night. I opened we chat, checked a few profiles, sent a few requests, met the girl at the corner, went back to my hotel, and had a great session. It took me all but 15 minutes to go through that process. Get it? It's all location based and the ladies are right there around you.

Had two sessions at wood today. Good first one in the afternoon with a busty girl w / glasses, good service and attitude. Thought about Eden w one girl since it was nearby and I could not remember other locations since I left my notes back home. Did not have the energy so went back to wood after a meal, tried another girl.

I just want a massage with happy ending tomorrow, any suggestions. Is it safe to assume random massage places in the area offer extras?

On the phone so I don't have much time ti read through threads.

Some people are to set on in their ways and inflexible to pick up on the digital age. The digital age is responsible for the slow decline of the bar industry as it was.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2031308]Again you are missing the point. Let me explain further. You are on Sukhumvit Soi 11 in the Australian pub for example. You open We Chat and click on the people nearby option. You can then either sit back and wait just a few minutes to receive countless friend requests from the P4 P ladies. Or secondly, you can search profiles and send them friend requests. Once you or them accept, the meet up can happen within a few minutes. .[/QUOTE]B Dog is exactly right.

The only slight "complication" in using WeChat is that you need to weed out the ladyboys. Be upfront. Ask immediately are you a 100% woman. Most will admit. Some will get affronted by your impertinence but soon get over it (if they are 100% female). If they are LBs they will usually either tell you or just disappear.

As BDog says, it's really easy and is a great fall back if you are in the midst of a lot of people and cannot see anyone to your immediate taste.

My thanks to Syzygies for his report a few weeks back on Wei at Chrome Bar. Actually Dr. BJ's Nuru Massage on Soi 7/1 but they cannot display that name. It was my first nuru experience and the process itself was not nearly as exciting as my first soapie ever way back when. Through no fault of Wei. She is attractive, easy to talk to likes to keep it fun. She does have silicon but they are not grossly exaggerated. She is pretty, maybe a 7. Her service an 8 and her attitude a 9. I paid 2000 baht for 1 hour and probably should have tipped more than the 200 that I found in my shirt pocket. I would repeat and maybe try to direct the time to be less about the slip and slide.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2031643]My thanks to Syzygies for his report a few weeks back on Wei at Chrome Bar. Actually Dr. BJ's Nuru Massage on Soi 7/1 but they cannot display that name. It was my first nuru experience and the process itself was not nearly as exciting as my first soapie ever way back when. Through no fault of Wei. She is attractive, easy to talk to likes to keep it fun. She does have silicon but they are not grossly exaggerated. She is pretty, maybe a 7. Her service an 8 and her attitude a 9. I paid 2000 baht for 1 hour and probably should have tipped more than the 200 that I found in my shirt pocket. I would repeat and maybe try to direct the time to be less about the slip and slide.[/QUOTE]That was my report I believe.




[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013290]I have not been to an Annie's or Dr. BJ establishement in a while but recently I had 2 sessions with Wei from Chrome bar. She has tanned skin with a really nice bottom, firm stomach despite being 35 years old with a kid, and nice natural looking man mades. She is not a member of the regular staff but works about 4 days per week. No photos on their website. Her face looks like she is about 28-30 years old.

The first session with her was the 1 hour option in the short time shower room. It comes with a massage table and there is a mat on the floor. The room itself looks like a rectangular bathroom with a massage table. Her BBBJ skills were just to my taste, slow and gentle. Multiple positions were available. One hour for 2,000 Baht.

After that, I was eager to try her again, I booked her for a 2 hour session in one of their VIP rooms. 3,000 Baht. I wanted another chance to sample the goods. The session started off with a great body slide and BBBJ and 69 in the shower area. Moving to the bed, I wanted to sample that beautiful love nest so we continued with a wonderful tasting DATY session which ended in her 100% satisfied. Her climax was very slow to build up but when it happened, it was like an explosion. Wei is not a clock watcher and we played in multiple positions with me finishing in doggy. She is a great conversationalist and is nothing like the over 30 and over 40 ladies at Tulip. She looks under 30, can carry an good conversation as well as good satisfaction in the session.

Too many girls in Bangkok for me to repeat a third time but she deserves a good review and she is a definite sweet heart. I normally don't go for this age range so when I picked her, I was surprised when she told me she was 35. She hides it well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2031675]That was my report I believe.[/QUOTE]An excellent report too. I'm left scratching my head a bit on this one because there were 2 things about the post that motivated me. 1) It was an actual field report from Syzygies rather than advice and 2) there was mention of rimming I thought. So at that time I just jotted a note to myself and finally acted on it. I just waded through a bunch of search results both here and on the chance that it was posted to Bangkok. I came up zero. Syz, weigh in here please. Whatever the case Wei is all that you say.

I don't need to 'Wei' in here. BKKDog showed was his report. I have not been to Chrome bar for quite a while and can't remember the name of last girl done there. There was Pheung from Annies, but probably someone else since then. I tend to remember the very best girls better.

I would love to be to make more useful field reports, however my monger frequency has dropped right off.

Last night met my regular freelancer by LINE contact for fabulous session, that other girls don't really match in all aspects. She is very good value especially hitting her really horny after no orgasm for a week, and just before her period. She said I was welcome to just stick the dick in and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her while she was sleeping, she was that horny. Naturally she did wake up and get into it at 5. 30 am. There is no use to make field reports about repeat secret liasons. So that is why my field reports are low. I certainly report on all monger venues and girls tried there. Just a bit infrequent to try something new these days.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2031308]Again you are missing the point. Let me explain further. You are on Sukhumvit Soi 11 in the Australian pub for example. You open We Chat and click on the people nearby option. You can then either sit back and wait just a few minutes to receive countless friend requests from the P4 P ladies. Or secondly, you can search profiles and send them friend requests. Once you or them accept, the meet up can happen within a few minutes. Let me give you a personal example. Last year I was in Climax, I was not thrilled with the girls in the club that night. I opened we chat, checked a few profiles, sent a few requests, met the girl at the corner, went back to my hotel, and had a great session. It took me all but 15 minutes to go through that process. Get it? It's all location based and the ladies are right there around you.[/QUOTE]I have taken the advice and got We Chat on the phone. I will try it.

A couple of dumb questions if I may?

What sort if distance is covered by the location vicinity search? I would like to search for a stunning black girl called Christina and have some clues about what area she be may in sometimes. First met her on Soi 23 (she was close to a 10) but could not go with her at the time. If this fails, there is a guy I can ask for the contact details. However that will be more embarassing. LOL

Is there any way to weed out girls with bad bodies? How to get round this problem when interacting online? I was frequent at Crazy mainly because I could see the entire body clearly. No surprises.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2031985]I have taken the advice and got We Chat on the phone. I will try it.

A couple of dumb questions if I may?

What sort if distance is covered by the location vicinity search? I would like to search for a stunning black girl called Christina and have some clues about what area she be may in sometimes. First met her on Soi 23 (she was close to a 10) but could not go with her at the time. If this fails, there is a guy I can ask for the contact details. However that will be more embarassing. LOL

Is there any way to weed out girls with bad bodies? How to get round this problem when interacting online? I was frequent at Crazy mainly because I could see the entire body clearly. No surprises.[/QUOTE]Christina advertises on CL quite often and seems to have become a fairly well known service provider.

WeChat has a video call option. Its great for getting a physical confirmation.

So no other app for P2P apart from Wechat? It always crashes on my phone.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2031985]I have taken the advice and got We Chat on the phone. I will try it.

A couple of dumb questions if I may?

What sort if distance is covered by the location vicinity search? I would like to search for a stunning black girl called Christina and have some clues about what area she be may in sometimes. First met her on Soi 23 (she was close to a 10) but could not go with her at the time. If this fails, there is a guy I can ask for the contact details. However that will be more embarassing. LOL

Is there any way to weed out girls with bad bodies? How to get round this problem when interacting online? I was frequent at Crazy mainly because I could see the entire body clearly. No surprises.[/QUOTE]I think the distance depends on the number of girls in the area, there were so many around Sukumvit, it was a few kilometers whereas here in the states, it's up to fifteen miles. I was staying at Soi 10 and Soi 19 last time and I got greetings from girls around Soi 4-24. You can meet regular girls but you have to be out of the mongering areas. I was taking the skytrain back from Chatujak and when we were stopped at a station, I found a profile I liked and we struck up a conversation and went out on a couple of dates. Good luck finding your girl!

On my second day before heading to Tulip I decided to check the girls in Snowwhite for booking an outcall session on the next day's afternoon, on my Snowwhite list was EMMY, Cash, Bonus, Sunny, Ninja or Guitar, so I went there, warm welcome from the mamasan and she called the available girls to lineup, my first choice EMMY was on a vacation for some medical problem and the mamasan didn't know when the she will come back, second choice Ninja was busy so I had to chooses between the available girls. I just got confused in choosing which one so I took one lady with a cute face and angelic smile, later on I was told that her names is Will and she doesn't have photos on the website, so I settled the booking and went out, was a little bit hesitated about why did I choose a girl that is not verified with reviews but it was OK, as long as a lady work in Snowwhite she must meet the standards of the place. So next day Will arrived about 5 minutes early to my hotel, warm welcome and invited her for a drink with the initial talks.

Will is really short girl, I guess maximum 150 , white skin, sweet small body, not more than 45 kilos, small natural boobs, very cute face and super silky skin, no tattoos and no baby damage, braces on the teeth, hairy pubes with shaved edges and slightly hairy pussy lips, very good English, at least better than Opor and Coco.

I was shocked when she told me that she is 37 years old, she looks younger and have no babies, her body is well toned for a mature petite lady.

She is only 7 months in Snow White and doesn't like to add her photos online because of family problems.

Will was open to all services, she is doing her best to make her customers happy, had a lot of fun in the shower, body slides was fantastic, she is an excellent DFK with a serpent tongue that plays everywhere.

Back to bed with more DFK and licks everywhere, she enjoys DATY and doesn't fake moans, I have to admit that being with small built girls have some advantages taking control and moving freely, I hold her easily upside down for more DATY while enjoying her Very good BBBJ, was my first time to do this but her light weight helps a lot.

Cowgirl pounding then some missionary, spooning then to anal, she doesn't have a problem in anal, we shifted to anal spooning, for 10 minutes more then shot my load in doggy. I told her that 1 time is enough for me because I was preparing for the night session with Tulip's Leena so the whole session took about 35 minutes and was really fun.

Went to shower again and she asked me am I sure that I don't want a second time, just refused gently and after shower we talked for sometimes before she leave.

My feedback: as I didn't read about Will in this thread before I'm happy to share a new experience here hoping it may help, Will meets all the Snow White standards and many people may fantasize this kind of body, I was very satisfied from the session as she is a good hard worker lady.

Body: 8/10 for her soft skin.

Face: 8/10.

Service:8/10.

Damage: 3000 +500 tip.

Overall experience 7.5 /10 as I didn't go for the second round (not her fault).

WIR: why not, but after trying more of the SW Legends.

[QUOTE=DoomDrum;2032482] I just got confused in choosing which one so I took one lady with a cute face and angelic smile, later on I was told that her names is Will and she doesn't have photos on the website, so I settled the booking and went out.[/QUOTE]Name Will is suspicious.

Did anyone spell the name for you? I suspect you may be guessing based on what it sounds like, but Thais cannot say or pronounce the English word Will. They don't know how to make an L sound at the end of a word. The is a better chance her name her name is "View", for example, since Thais pronounce a V like a W, and would sound like Wiew or Wiw.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2032740]Name Will is suspicious.

Did anyone spell the name for you? I suspect you may be guessing based on what it sounds like, but Thais cannot say or pronounce the English word Will. They don't know how to make an L sound at the end of a word. The is a better chance her name her name is "View", for example, since Thais pronounce a V like a W, and would sound like Wiew or Wiw.[/QUOTE]View matches the description. She's a very popular girl who has been recommended to me but on seeing her in the flesh I've always thought she looks a bit old for my tastes. I think she looks about the same age as girls like Sandy from Addict and Prae from Mango so she could easily pass herself off as being younger like they do but it's good that she's honest about it.

[QUOTE=*****man;2032764]View matches the description. She's a very popular girl who has been recommended to me but on seeing her in the flesh I've always thought she looks a bit old for my tastes. I think she looks about the same age as girls like Sandy from Addict and Prae from Mango so she could easily pass herself off as being younger like they do but it's good that she's honest about it.[/QUOTE]"pass herself off as being younger like they do ". 555

Next time I see Prae, I can ask to see her ID card just to keep you happy, man. I don't have the suspicion she is as old as what you say. Looks early 30's to me. Could deviate either way older or younger. Could be only 30. However opinions matter for nothing. Actually, the exact official age matters nothing to me. However some guys seem to concentrate on it. I would just like to replace the innuendos with a fact, so we don't have to argue such a silly (to me) topic.

The more interesting part, is "was the girl truthful or bullshit artist?" Some of my favourite girls are over 30, so I don't care about the actual age number.

Not being at all concerned about age, has it's drawbacks. I have accidentally taken a girl too young on odd occasion, without knowing. One of them had a baby already and plenty of experience with many Farangs, so I had no clue. Later she was not too young any more, so she became a regular very good GFE. Many years later she has retired from gogo bar and working a regular store job I heard. I would still like to check in case she is interested to do some part time liasons. I feel sorry for single mother girls that officially can't make a good living to support their child. LOL I also once had the problem that the Solo Hotel would not allow a 19 YO visitor, but would allow her to check in to the room. So I did. Other Hotels did not have any problems. Go figure these nonsense rules, and Thai laws.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2032740]Name Will is suspicious.

Did anyone spell the name for you? I suspect you may be guessing based on what it sounds like, but Thais cannot say or pronounce the English word Will. They don't know how to make an L sound at the end of a word. The is a better chance her name her name is "View", for example, since Thais pronounce a V like a W, and would sound like Wiew or Wiw.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that she was not View. Besides she wrote the reservation initials on a paper on the front desk, and she wrote her name like Will, actually from my studies here I cannot recall View's physical shape but it is easy to recognize if she is View or not from my description.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2032773]"pass herself off as being younger like they do ". 555

Next time I see Prae, I can ask to see her ID card just to keep you happy, man. I don't have the suspicion she is as old as what you say. Looks early 30's to me. Could deviate either way older or younger. Could be only 30. However opinions matter for nothing. Actually, the exact official age matters nothing to me. However some guys seem to concentrate on it. I would just like to replace the innuendos with a fact, so we don't have to argue such a silly (to me) topic.

The more interesting part, is "was the girl truthful or bullshit artist?" Some of my favourite girls are over 30, so I don't care about the actual age number.

Not being at all concerned about age, has it's drawbacks. I have accidentally taken a girl too young on odd occasion, without knowing. One of them had a baby already and plenty of experience with many Farangs, so I had no clue. Later she was not too young any more, so she became a regular very good GFE. Many years later she has retired from gogo bar and working a regular store job I heard. I would still like to check in case she is interested to do some part time liasons. I feel sorry for single mother girls that officially can't make a good living to support their child. LOL I also once had the problem that the Solo Hotel would not allow a 19 YO visitor, but would allow her to check in to the room. So I did. Other Hotels did not have any problems. Go figure these nonsense rules, and Thai laws.[/QUOTE]Prae probably is early 30's but I doubt she's 27 like you said in your initial report on her. And guys who think Sandy is mid-20's are also mistaken I think. It's understandable that they would lie because a lot of guys would run a mile if they heard a girl was 30+.

[QUOTE=DoomDrum;2032776]I'm pretty sure that she was not View. Besides she wrote the reservation initials on a paper on the front desk, and she wrote her name like Will, actually from my studies here I cannot recall View's physical shape but it is easy to recognize if she is View or not from my description.[/QUOTE]I think View is her real nickname but she writes it as Will for some reason. I believe many years ago some guy uploaded a bunch of very explicit images of her which explains why she doesn't want to be on the website.

[QUOTE=*****man;2032929]I think View is her real nickname but she writes it as Will for some reason. I believe many years ago some guy uploaded a bunch of very explicit images of her which explains why she doesn't want to be on the website.[/QUOTE]I just saw the name as she wrote it, it is good that she was View, I read positive reviews about her and she was on my list, anyway the session with her was very good.

[QUOTE=*****man;2032929]I think View is her real nickname but she writes it as Will for some reason. I believe many years ago some guy uploaded a bunch of very explicit images of her which explains why she doesn't want to be on the website.[/QUOTE]However she told me that she is only 7 months working in SW.

[QUOTE=DoomDrum;2032482]On my second day before heading to Tulip I decided to check the girls in Snowwhite for booking an outcall session on the next day's afternoon, on my Snowwhite list was EMMY, Cash, Bonus, Sunny, Ninja or Guitar, so I went there, warm welcome from the mamasan and she called the available girls to lineup, my first choice EMMY was on a vacation for some medical problem and the mamasan didn't know when the she will come back, second choice Ninja was busy so I had to chooses between the available girls. I just got confused in choosing which one so I took one lady with a cute face and angelic smile, later on I was told that her names is Will and she doesn't have photos on the website, so I settled the booking and went out, was a little bit hesitated about why did I choose a girl that is not verified with reviews but it was OK, as long as a lady work in Snowwhite she must meet the standards of the place. So next day Will arrived about 5 minutes early to my hotel, warm welcome and invited her for a drink with the initial talks.

Will is really short girl, I guess maximum 150 , white skin, sweet small body, not more than 45 kilos, small natural boobs, very cute face and super silky skin, no tattoos and no baby damage, braces on the teeth, hairy pubes with shaved edges and slightly hairy pussy lips, very good English, at least better than Opor and Coco..[/QUOTE]Emmy has had an accident and has hurt her leg, she is recovering her return date is not known, another beauty called Gung has left SW permanently, their website needs some updating, however Emmy is the best they have in their lineup according to me. Ninja is popular and was nice but not the best in my opinion, Emmy is jovial and has a nice body to go with her chirpy personality.

[QUOTE=*****man;2032929]I think View is her real nickname but she writes it as Will for some reason. I believe many years ago some guy uploaded a bunch of very explicit images of her which explains why she doesn't want to be on the website.[/QUOTE]If she wrote Wiw, that could make sense (being an approximation for View since there is no letter V equivalent in Thai language and W sound is used instead).

Aha. Could be a deliberate misspelling for purpose of misdirection, or avoiding the link being made too easily. Anyway if she writes Will, that seems silly, because it is not going to be a Thai name, and if was borrowing a Farang name, what would it be short for, Wilhelmina? LOL That does not have two letter Ls (not successive). Unless she is a Tomboy and wants a boy's name. All very puzzling. View on the other hand is a pretty commonly used Thai nick name (borrowed from English word) for girls, especially in MPs I think, in same way as Benz is a common Thai nick name.

So I guess we have to call her View / Will from now on. LOL Either way, Thais will say Wiw, most likely.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033015]If she wrote Wiw, that could make sense (being an approximation for View since there is no letter V equivalent in Thai language and W sound is used instead).

Aha. Could be a deliberate misspelling for purpose of misdirection, or avoiding the link being made too easily. Anyway if she writes Will, that seems silly, because it is not going to be a Thai name, and if was borrowing a Farang name, what would it be short for, Wilhelmina? LOL That does not have two letter Ls (not successive). Unless she is a Tomboy and wants a boy's name. All very puzzling. View on the other hand is a pretty commonly used Thai nick name (borrowed from English word) for girls, especially in MPs I think, in same way as Benz is a common Thai nick name.

So I guess we have to call her View / Will from now on. LOL Either way, Thais will say Wiw, most likely.[/QUOTE]These days, Thai nicknames are being influenced by pop culture, media, and consumerism. I've met a French Fries, Beyoncé, several iPhones and iPads, a boy named Sue, a couple of Pills, a girl named Brian, and a Romona. Some were able to pronounce these names perfectly while others made the typical l and are and w and v mix ups that you've mentioned. It's getting to the point that anything is possible when it comes to names so I typically ask them to spell it so I know what they are trying to say.

[QUOTE=CaptJack555;2032058]So no other app for P2P apart from Wechat? It always crashes on my phone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2031244]You are not getting the point. If you read the user blogs you would see. Let's start with the obvious. We Chat is the major player in this. If you play the people nearby option, 80% of the ladies and 99% of the Ladyboys are looking for P4 P. The we chat girls will often put the words call girl right in their profile for you to see in the list of females near you.

Next is Badoo, where about 60-70% are looking for P4 P. It has a location based search option with the app or a web based option as well.

After that would be Thai Friendly where about 30% are looking for P4 P and another 20% will consider it for the right offer and punter. Has an app and a web based option.

You've already mentioned Craig's list so no need to quote stats.

Finally, there are the more Thai oriented Sideline sites and BeeTalk application. I've actually had the best results from Bee Talk where about 40% are looking for P4P but you need some smooth skills.[/QUOTE]Maybe if you read the forum, you would find out. Here is one of many reports on this. Please search the forum and you will find this topic being covered in every thread in the Thailand section, including a deadicated user blog at the bottom for this topic.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2031985]I have taken the advice and got We Chat on the phone. I will try it.

A couple of dumb questions if I may?

What sort if distance is covered by the location vicinity search? I would like to search for a stunning black girl called Christina and have some clues about what area she be may in sometimes. First met her on Soi 23 (she was close to a 10) but could not go with her at the time. If this fails, there is a guy I can ask for the contact details. However that will be more embarassing. LOL

Is there any way to weed out girls with bad bodies? How to get round this problem when interacting online? I was frequent at Crazy mainly because I could see the entire body clearly. No surprises.[/QUOTE]Depending on the number of ladies who are using the people nearby feature at any on e given time, it could be only 2 KM or up to 10 KM. AR peak times in the Suk area, it may only be 2 KM but there will be many ladies. Other times in the early mornings it will be 5 KM or more. Outside Bangkok I have seen up to 20 KM.

There is no real way to judge the bodies of the ladies accept by whatever photos they provide. However, what you could do is ask them to do a video call with you. This may help you to decide. I never bother with this since I can just go and meet them to check them out. I generally choose the ladies within 2 KM of my location so if I go to meet them and I don't like what I see, I can call off the encounter. Being so close to me, it's no big deal.

To keep in the spirit of this thread being for massage, I can relate this post. Most of the shops in Sukhumvit have asked the ladies to play we chat to help find customers. I would say about 50% play at one time or another depending on how busy they are. I've negotiated many services with massage ladies in shops like the old Boss massage. It saved me walking in to do it. If the lady does not agree, I don't need to waste a trip inside. I've also tried this on Ratchada where there are many ladies playing as well. May of the punters on Ratchada are Chinese and they use We Chat exclusively and the ladies know it so they play as well.

[QUOTE=DoomDrum;2032949]However she told me that she is only 7 months working in SW.[/QUOTE]That's normal. Bonus was recently saying she'd only been there for a few weeks when the truth was she'd been there for years. Maybe she's not really 37 but just wanted to see your reaction. You can't really believe anything these girls say.

[QUOTE=Citizen;2032952]Emmy has had an accident and has hurt her leg, she is recovering her return date is not known, another beauty called Gung has left SW permanently, their website needs some updating, however Emmy is the best they have in their lineup according to me. Ninja is popular and was nice but not the best in my opinion, Emmy is jovial and has a nice body to go with her chirpy personality.[/QUOTE]Agree with you on Emmy. Sad she has met with an accident. I had availed her services during my last trip in March. Hope nothing is serious and she recovers fast. Amazing girl. Had a great session with her. I can recommend Candy with whom also I had a nice session. Good body. Great BBBJ with CIM.

[QUOTE=*****man;2033243]That's normal. Bonus was recently saying she'd only been there for a few weeks when the truth was she'd been there for years. Maybe she's not really 37 but just wanted to see your reaction. You can't really believe anything these girls say.[/QUOTE]Good to know this, I just took what she told me for granted.

Thanks buddy.

Doom inspired me to try Tulip again after years away. I had a look in there. Obviously wasn't the right time. The line up had about 6 girls, admittedly vastly better than for my previous visit, however than were all fatties, not for me. They don't have pics of the girls so there is no way to find out which girls might be my targets. I just have to keep trying till get lucky, or maybe someone can list all of the slim girls that could be possibilities. Needless to say that Opor was not there to check out.

Decided it was time to see if Club 102 girls were really pretty or not. I have to say I think guys like Eric must be an optimist. There was an Asian guy looking at the line up of close to 20 girls. He said to me he was confused. Yes he must have been because he picked one of the least interesting for me. She had lightish skin, roundish face, looked a bit ugly Chinese to me, silly brown hair do, big sillies bulging out of the top, and a nose job. The only two girls that looked passable to me were Michelle pictured, and Pat. However neither pretty enough to demand trying, really when I could just fall back to one of my regular girls. No one looked as sweet and cute as my New Massage (Used to be Love Teen in that spot) girl Pink (if she still work there. Haven't checked recently).

I really think the looks standard is behind Can Cam, even if Can Cam has relatively fewer girls, so I would rather try a new girl there. Not even sure if Club 102 line up is as good as Addict line up for looks.

Prae was not at Mango, on holidays, so still yet to repeat her after a long delay.

I haven't been in Snow White for a fair time, and usually pass. Last girl I did there that I can still remember would be enthusiastic Emmy and that was when she was quite new (maybe 2 years ago). She seems to be pretty popular these days. I would actually prefer to take Prae again, based on her great body, and no surgeries. She was pretty enthusiastic for me too.

My Orient girl was not there, who was prettier than any of the Club 102 girls easily for my taste.

[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2033247]Agree with you on Emmy. Sad she has met with an accident. I had availed her services during my last trip in March. Hope nothing is serious and she recovers fast. Amazing girl. Had a great session with her. I can recommend Candy with whom also I had a nice session. Good body. Great BBBJ with CIM.[/QUOTE]Candy is a mum who has been described as having deflated saggy tits and stretch marks. Can you explain what you mean by a 'good body'?

Last week I decided to walk to Club 102 from my hotel since I was a bit disappointed with one of the bookings I made with Smooci. I came to Bangkok hoping to have a Long time fuck fest because I couldn't do it with normal girls. Hence Massage girls were initially out of question. But then My second experience with booking I made was not what I expected, so I needed to finish it off as I was a bit too lazy to pick someone up. I walked around the street near Addict massage, it was my first time there and I found other famous massage centers, On my way to Club 102, one girl caught my eyes, and the girls who were waiting in front of Club 102 were not attractive to me. I turned around And walked in Addict Massage, I was shown more girls and the girls in front were also called in, (Standard Procedure as you all know). Then I selected the girl who first caught my eyes, whose name was Ann. Pretty face, slim body, small tits which I didn't mind. I selected 2 hours I guess. She was really playful. I like it. She was constantly teasing me like she knew me. After the initial cuddles, kisses and foreplay with Gel applied all over the body, some slipping and sliding, I took control of the show and made it like a porn scene. I carried her to the bed and fucked her in missionary position. She really loved it and the best part is she had a decent stamina, I fucked her in missionary position for about 10 minutes, then I fucked her sideways, she took it like a champ. I really wanted her ass, and I knew she doesn't do A-levels, but it was OK, I put her in doggy and kept teasing and her anus while I banged her, I made it lose enough, she enjoyed it, as I pounded, I put 2 fingers in and she didn't say a word initially, but later she said she cannot do anal, I said it was ok and then I just put my thumb in her ass and pounded fast, it took nearly 45 minutes for me to cum. She was that good. She is quite young but she was one good fuck!

Looks 8/10.

Body 9/10.

Attitude 10/10.

Experience 10/10.

When I visit Thailand, I will get her again for sure!

[QUOTE=Zam007;2034601]Then I selected the girl who first caught my eyes, whose name was Ann. Pretty face, slim body, small tits which I didn't mind.

... then I just put my thumb in her ass and pounded fast, it took nearly 45 minutes for me to cum. She was that good. She is quite young but she was one good fuck!

[/QUOTE]Doing a girl doggy style with a thumb in the arse is great. I gave up on Addict after nothing but mediocre or poor experiences but this report makes it very tempting to give this girl a try. Is her body really a 9? No baby damage at all? From experience 90% of Addict girls have babies.

[QUOTE=*****man;2035330]Doing a girl doggy style with a thumb in the arse is great. I gave up on Addict after nothing but mediocre or poor experiences but this report makes it very tempting to give this girl a try. Is her body really a 9? No baby damage at all? From experience 90% of Addict girls have babies.[/QUOTE]My sample of addict girls was 3 all up. 1 out if the 3 had no baby. Suprisingly she performed best too but long gone. One of the 3 the damage was too much and another was minor stretch marks.

I assume you only ever found 1 with no baby as well. If you are going by reports of others then it is difficult because some guys like me get a girl with no baby and make no comment. Did not occur to us. When we see a disaster body, we are more likely to comment. Girl with baby but no apparent damage may also cause no comment. e.g. my GF has a baby but still tight pussy and have to look hard to find the stretch marks under good light. Body still great so probably did very little breast feeding as very little sag. Best tits of all my previous girlfriends for shape. So having a baby is not the same as damaged. Baby does not prove bad figure. I rate her figure highly even at 39. She is lucky to be in great shape, but does not eat much and not much junk.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2035354]
I assume you only ever found 1 with no baby as well. [/QUOTE]I'm going by a time I went in and there was a particularly large line-up that completely filled the room even with them all squeezed together. It seemed like more than 40 girls but when the mamasan told the ones with babies to leave there were only about 5 left. I did choose one of them but service was quite poor.

It's true that some guys are not worried about baby damage which is why I questioned the 9 for the body.

[QUOTE=*****man;2035386]

It's true that some guys are not worried about baby damage which is why I questioned the 9 for the body.[/QUOTE]Lets make a careful distinction here. I don't like to go with girls with significant baby damage, however there are a lot of girls I like, that have had babies, including plenty of my regulars. I probably do not require the tiniest pussy, in fact dick scared girls are a big problem at times, which happens far less with mothers.

So I would take a mother with low to very low damage any time. So happens that only one of my Crazy House girls was a mother, but that is unusual for me. 80% of my Suzie Wong girls were mothers, even a girl once accidentally done when below official minimum age. Every one of my Thai girlfriends was a mother. Not many older Thai girls (over 30) failed to ever have a baby.

So I don't like severe belly scaring, very saggy wrinkled bellies, deflated sag bag tits, saggy ass, etc. Very minor stretch marks I can ignore and slightly saggy tits can be acceptable especially if they are bigger naturals. This is why I preferred naked bars for so long, or bars with girls wearing as little as possible like a G string. I could see exactly what the body was like. I hate the double layer bras hiding tits completely.

Very big risk with free lancers on Soi 4. I would guess a fairly high percentage are damaged, not just having a baby. Did have the odd nasty shock there.

It's true that in Soapies and Oilies, we need to ask mamasan / papasan what the girl's body is like, does she have sillies, bad damage, very saggy, etc. I prefer to be able to ask these things without the girls being able to hear everything though, which tends to be easier in a Soapy. I don't want sessions to start off with girl seeing me as a bad guy.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2036511]I picked this girl from the extensive line-up because she was very good-looking. Only 3 flaws: braces on her teeth, a butterfly tattoo on her thigh, and smallish tits. But apart from that she has an adorable face and super hot body. She looks especially good when her skin is all oiled up, which is how she spent more than half the session.

She is 24 years old. Not overly girlfriend-ish outside of the bed, but she more than made up for it by not pressuring me to come fast once we got going. I sure took my own sweet time. She's good in pretty much every position of the kama-sutra.

I would recommend her, as long as you don't mind braces. Maybe make a bit more effort than I did to warm her up before the actual intercourse. Also be careful she doesn't seem to know how to put a condom on properly. I probably won't repeat voluntarily because there are just so many tempting girls rotating at Club 102, but what's more likely is that I'll forget all about her and pick her again based on looks, and only later realize she was a repeat.[/QUOTE]Does she have white skin, tanned, or dark?

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2036610]Does she have white skin, tanned, or dark?[/QUOTE]I would say lightly tanned. Definitely not Isaan dark, but not exactly European white either.

Hey,

Anyone been to Cherry massage lately as nkt much chatter about it?

Used to be my go to place but last April it let me down, all top girls away, left or on holiday (oil, yok, yaya, Bb).

Then they sent me Pinky who looked absolutely nothing like her photos, lot older and gotten a lot bigger since her 20's photos on website.

Gave her 600 to leave saying I wasn't feeling well and had to cancel.

Usually Cherry awesome, with good real pics and down to earth girls but last month not good time.

I am really hoping its improved on girls. So anyone been lately?

My lis is now down by one for no extra charges for A+ : Tupil, Cherry, SW,Candy and Boss next to Cherry.

Can any one add to that list?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037406]Hey,

Anyone been to Cherry massage lately as nkt much chatter about it?

Used to be my go to place but last April it let me down, all top girls away, left or on holiday (oil, yok, yaya, Bb).

Then they sent me Pinky who looked absolutely nothing like her photos, lot older and gotten a lot bigger since her 20's photos on website.

Gave her 600 to leave saying I wasn't feeling well and had to cancel.

Usually Cherry awesome, with good real pics and down to earth girls but last month not good time.

I am really hoping its improved on girls. So anyone been lately?[/QUOTE]I'm also interested in reports about Cherry Massage. Has anybody been with BB recently? I hade her a couple of times 3 or 4 years ago, but haven't had the oppotunity after that. She still looks good in the pictures and from what I remember she was pretty good in the sack.

[QUOTE=DextroSol;2038223]I'm also interested in reports about Cherry Massage. Has anybody been with BB recently? I hade her a couple of times 3 or 4 years ago, but haven't had the oppotunity after that. She still looks good in the pictures and from what I remember she was pretty good in the sack.[/QUOTE]To Dextro.

I was there 3 week ago the place is going down hill last time I pick girl there is Angie she is the hottest soapie girl I ever meet, all the soapie in that area have poor quality now except for the new club 102 have the best lineup now.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=TConor;2038141]My lis is now down by one for no extra charges for A+ : Tupil, Cherry, SW, Candy and Boss next to Cherry.

Can any one add to that list?[/QUOTE]Candy has slim pickings on A+. Last time I asked, out of 5 girls present, none offered it. I think it might have changed owners.

Is Boss also a multiple-pop, A+ included place? I didn't know that.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2038300]Candy has slim pickings on A+. Last time I asked, out of 5 girls present, none offered it. I think it might have changed owners.

Is Boss also a multiple-pop, A+ included place? I didn't know that.[/QUOTE]I've been there a few times in the last 2 years and had two shots every time. Last October there was only 1 girl offering a+ in that place. She was not the prettiest girl, black long hairs, very big (false) boobs, tanned skin, but she was nice. I would not recommend it for a+ but if you spot a cute girl you can probably get 2 shots and have a good time there. And the prices there are still good for that soi (on the contrary of cancam or otemachi for example).

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2038254]To Dextro.

I was there 3 week ago the place is going down hill last time I pick girl there is Angie she is the hottest soapie girl I ever meet, all the soapie in that area have poor quality now except for the new club 102 have the best lineup now.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Thanks for tips about club 102, I'll try them out next time!! Any other suggestions?

But there are 1 or 2, one is pretty good. And Candy is no longer the owner. Or at least manager.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2038300]Candy has slim pickings on A+. Last time I asked, out of 5 girls present, none offered it. I think it might have changed owners.

Is Boss also a multiple-pop, A+ included place? I didn't know that.[/QUOTE]

Is Club 102 next to Addict?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033424]Doom inspired me to try Tulip again after years away. I had a look in there. Obviously wasn't the right time. The line up had about 6 girls, admittedly vastly better than for my previous visit, however than were all fatties, not for me. They don't have pics of the girls so there is no way to find out which girls might be my targets. I just have to keep trying till get lucky, or maybe someone can list all of the slim girls that could be possibilities. Needless to say that Opor was not there to check out.

Decided it was time to see if Club 102 girls were really pretty or not. I have to say I think guys like Eric must be an optimist. There was an Asian guy looking at the line up of close to 20 girls. He said to me he was confused. Yes he must have been because he picked one of the least interesting for me. She had lightish skin, roundish face, looked a bit ugly Chinese to me, silly brown hair do, big sillies bulging out of the top, and a nose job. The only two girls that looked passable to me were Michelle pictured, and Pat. However neither pretty enough to demand trying, really when I could just fall back to one of my regular girls. No one looked as sweet and cute as my New Massage (Used to be Love Teen in that spot) girl Pink (if she still work there. Haven't checked recently).

I really think the looks standard is behind Can Cam, even if Can Cam has relatively fewer girls, so I would rather try a new girl there. Not even sure if Club 102 line up is as good as Addict line up for looks.

Prae was not at Mango, on holidays, so still yet to repeat her after a long delay.

I haven't been in Snow White for a fair time, and usually pass. Last girl I did there that I can still remember would be enthusiastic Emmy and that was when she was quite new (maybe 2 years ago). She seems to be pretty popular these days. I would actually prefer to take Prae again, based on her great body, and no surgeries. She was pretty enthusiastic for me too.

My Orient girl was not there, who was prettier than any of the Club 102 girls easily for my taste.[/QUOTE]

Add to my list.

[QUOTE=TConor;2038141]My lis is now down by one for no extra charges for A+ : Tupil, Cherry, SW,Candy and Boss next to Cherry.

Can any one add to that list?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2038254]To Dextro.

I was there 3 week ago the place is going down hill last time I pick girl there is Angie she is the hottest soapie girl I ever meet, all the soapie in that area have poor quality now except for the new club 102 have the best lineup now.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Sorry, are you saying Angie is hot girl at Cherry now or you couldn't do her on your last visit 3 weeks ago?

Yok is a real trouper so I hope she still there, she is on their website.

[QUOTE=TConor;2038434]Is Club 102 next to Addict?[/QUOTE]Yes, right next door.

[QUOTE=TConor;2038435]Add to my list.[/QUOTE]There is also Sky massage (Thonglo), and Bongkot (soi 22). I went to Sky 2 times for a specific girl but she was not working there anymore and the line up was not interesting so I've not experienced that place. But I've read on the forum that it's a sister shop of SW so you can probably get the same service for the same price. Never been to Bongkot but I've read that some girls are PSE also there.

I found Bongkot bur not sky.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2038575]There is also Sky massage (Thonglo), and Bongkot (soi 22). I went to Sky 2 times for a specific girl but she was not working there anymore and the line up was not interesting so I've not experienced that place. But I've read on the forum that it's a sister shop of SW so you can probably get the same service for the same price. Never been to Bongkot but I've read that some girls are PSE also there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2038575]There is also Sky massage (Thonglo), and Bongkot (soi 22). I went to Sky 2 times for a specific girl but she was not working there anymore and the line up was not interesting so I've not experienced that place. But I've read on the forum that it's a sister shop of SW so you can probably get the same service for the same price. Never been to Bongkot but I've read that some girls are PSE also there.[/QUOTE]Sky and Bongkot are both closed.

[QUOTE=TConor;2038434]Is Club 102 next to Addict?[/QUOTE]Yes but I find other reports of the "beauties" at Club 102 to be very optimistic indeed. I did not notice the line up being anything super special and no better than Addict. Could be because I am allergic to face surgeries of course. Maybe other can find stunners in there. For me, only one or two out of 20 were even a pass. Nothing in the "really cute" category when I looked. However well worth a look for all to see if you agree with me or agree with Eric Swiss the stunners optimist.

I did post a pic of the best looking girl in that line up for my taste, who may be quite ordinary looking for many (including me).

If Prae is not in Mango, does not mean she will never return. Girls can be away for weeks sometimes. Have to be very patient. LOL I did not get round to trying again since my last report. Wasn't an urgent need.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2038930]Yes but I find other reports of the "beauties" at Club 102 to be very optimistic indeed. I did not notice the line up being anything super special and no better than Addict. Could be because I am allergic to face surgeries of course. Maybe other can find stunners in there. For me, only one or two out of 20 were even a pass. Nothing in the "really cute" category when I looked. However well worth a look for all to see if you agree with me or agree with Eric Swiss the stunners optimist.

I did post a pic of the best looking girl in that line up for my taste, who may be quite ordinary looking for many (including me).

If Prae is not in Mango, does not mean she will never return. Girls can be away for weeks sometimes. Have to be very patient. LOL I did not get round to trying again since my last report. Wasn't an urgent need.[/QUOTE]If slim, fit girl is your thing than Club 102 is much better than Addict IMOP. There are also a few stand-out lookers, relatively speaking, at 102 especially Green and another lady who was taller than the rest, very fit, light skinned, with nice sees.

Service wise, I've found Addict to provide more PSE whereas 102 will provide better massage and GFE service. With that being said, I don't find either place's current lineup to be worth the money you pay. Its unfortunate that Prae (Mango) is not available at the moment because she is the only one that I would go back for.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2038856]Sky and Bongkot are both closed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update, I thought they were just closed for the songkran period.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2038941]If slim, fit girl is your thing than Club 102 is much better than Addict IMOP. There are also a few stand-out lookers, relatively speaking, at 102 especially Green and another lady who was taller than the rest, very fit, light skinned, with nice sees.

Service wise, I've found Addict to provide more PSE whereas 102 will provide better massage and GFE service. With that being said, I don't find either place's current lineup to be worth the money you pay. Its unfortunate that Prae (Mango) is not available at the moment because she is the only one that I would go back for.[/QUOTE]You mean the only one in Mango, worth a repeat, or do you mean in the Soi? Normally it would mean "of the girls you tried recently in the location", which is not very meaningful, without knowing who is not to be repeated, or how many at least are non repeats.

I may well be waiting for Prae in this Soi. LOL At least I know she is very enthusiastic and has good body. No complaints.

Are any of your good girls at Club 102 pictured on the web site?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2039344]You mean the only one in Mango, worth a repeat, or do you mean in the Soi? Normally it would mean "of the girls you tried recently in the location", which is not very meaningful, without knowing who is not to be repeated, or how many at least are non repeats.

I may well be waiting for Prae in this Soi. LOL At least I know she is very enthusiastic and has good body. No complaints.

Are any of your good girls at Club 102 pictured on the web site?[/QUOTE]Of all of the different ladies I have visited in that Soi (around 20) I have found Prae to be the best combination of looks and service.

The two girls that standout to me at Club 102 are not shown on their site unless they are doing the opposite and making them look darker in the photos.

I don't see why people are getting excited about Club 102. I didn't see any who were worth the price. I went to Ocean and there were girls with similar specs (good shape and dark skin) who were cheaper. I chose one of the more expensive girls sitting on the right and 90 minutes with her was cheaper than Club 102 prices with good GFE service. Even the 1700 baht girls are as good or better than the best Club 102 girls. I can only imagine it appeals to guys who are too intimidated to venture out of the farang ghetto areas.

[QUOTE=*****man;2039383]I don't see why people are getting excited about Club 102. I didn't see any who were worth the price. I went to Ocean and there were girls with similar specs (good shape and dark skin) who were cheaper. I chose one of the more expensive girls sitting on the right and 90 minutes with her was cheaper than Club 102 prices with good GFE service. Even the 1700 baht girls are as good or better than the best Club 102 girls. I can only imagine it appeals to guys who are too intimidated to venture out of the farang ghetto areas.[/QUOTE]Two shots possible at Ocean? How about BBBJ?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2039564]Two shots possible at Ocean? How about BBBJ?[/QUOTE]Not sure about either and it's definitely not a PSE place so you'd probably be disappointed. But there's a report of girls pulling disgusted faces when shown a video of a rimjob so Club 102 isn't either.

[QUOTE=*****man;2039383]I don't see why people are getting excited about Club 102. I didn't see any who were worth the price. I went to Ocean and there were girls with similar specs (good shape and dark skin) who were cheaper. I chose one of the more expensive girls sitting on the right and 90 minutes with her was cheaper than Club 102 prices with good GFE service. Even the 1700 baht girls are as good or better than the best Club 102 girls. I can only imagine it appeals to guys who are too intimidated to venture out of the farang ghetto areas.[/QUOTE]I am in agreement. The rest is addressed to the potential Soapy goers in general.

I think Ocean is a very good option because of the low prices and also because the line up is big enough to give a few options. It was called Colonze 2 in former times so I presume still part of the Colonze group. If it fails to impress there are still other places nearby as a backup, Merci-Maxi has smaller lineup, Emannuelle (prices start to get higher). I hesitate to add Hi Class as although they had plenty of girls, I found them fairly ugly.

I assume all the Colonze shops will probably have good prices: Colonze 1, Ocean, The Office, and Nancy.

I think Emannuelle and Poseidon are worth a look for those who tolerate surgeries girls better than me. This could apply to most Soapies really.

Further afield I found a really good GFE girl with good body at Evita (Ay-wee-taa), but again the line up was smaller (similar size to Merci). Meree opposite (I did not look in last visit). These two are near corner of Petchaburi and Ekkamai roads.

Also worth a look in "The Lord" just to see what is the most beautiful girls you can get if wanting to pay at least double the money, but comparible with escorts I guess. This will put the Club 102 "beauties" into context.

La Belle is much closer for most Mongers staying on Sukhumvit, but I really have never been too keen on it. Line up was always too small. Don't like the bath tubs, and don't like most of the girls. Others have had success there though. I would rather go up to Ratchada myself, and have the choice over several shops relatively near each other.

I certainly agree that for guys who want PSE, with rimming etc., they are better off in their normal PSE Oilies. Soapy girls are very unlikely to match that type of service. Some are fresh off the farm, and need a little training up too. Clueless girls are always possible. I had plenty of those many years back at Nataree. There maybe shops that allow two shots, I never asked.

Hi guys!

I Had a good time in Addicts and Club 102 last month. I plan to return early next month but this time I would like to have more A-level action.

Lurking through this thread and another forum, for Massage plus A level, I have narrowed down to Bamboo.

I am still thinking I should select two girls or just one girl. From their website, it seems the lineup is too small. But most of them do A-level.

I have narrowed my choice to two girls. It would be fantastic if someone who have had a chance to be with them write me their review.

The two girls I Have in my mind are Yaya [URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/yaya/[/URL].

Ranya [URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ranya/[/URL].

I also heard that some girls in Addict may offer A-level.

I looked around for other girls who offer A-Level action in other MPs but none of them were up to my liking.

[QUOTE=*****man;2035330]Doing a girl doggy style with a thumb in the arse is great. I gave up on Addict after nothing but mediocre or poor experiences but this report makes it very tempting to give this girl a try. Is her body really a 9? No baby damage at all? From experience 90% of Addict girls have babies.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Sorry for the late reply.

No she did not have any baby damage. This girl for me was a 9! I don't know about your expectations. She had small boobs which I prefer to enlarged. She also had a very good attitude and she was energetic. At the start it was she who was controlling the show, she was literally lifting me up from the water to suck my balls. Also she kept saying that she liked me!

Landed in Don mueng from SG and straight to my routine hotel Amora Neo luxe in Soi31.40 Us $ for decent breakfast, room with bathtub+pool access and close to Asike and Phromphong.

Day 1- Will from Snowwhite.

Thanks to Droom Doom for his report. Will is Thailand's Pipper Perri (petite porn star famous for awkward poisitons). Will is 36, barely 155 cm fair skin and no baby free. Dripped to my hotel on time and such a darling. If you want a+ but also GFE the. She is the one. We were making out in bed before shower for 10 mins, super DFK, undressed and been in 69 in no time before shower. Deep throat, sloppy wet blow job and super rimming while DATY and she cums. She doesn't swuirt but obvious get off as I can see her ahole contracting. Went to bathtub with our wine glasses, slide games, totally open for anal, lot of fun. Back to bed, condom on pounded her ahole rightaway reverse cowgirl, doggy, standing and came in missionalry while she suck my thumb. She didn't wasted a minute to wash up quickly and giving me super bbj for 2nd round. Moved to sofa she is on top and did cowgirl for 10 minutes and came in her pussy. If you're too big it may be tough to be in her ahole. Super tight. We cuddled for 15 minutes with lots of DFK and messy bbj. Showered and she left. Will return! For sure!

Day2: woke up at 9, breakfast, catchup emails, went to MBk to buy some stuff and back to hotel around 3 after lunch.

Leena. Tulip.

North of 30's, 160 cm+, ideal body weight, no baby damage, nice boob job, her face is soo and the nose job is terrible. But. Wait don't flip the page, she is one crazy MILF you shouldn't miss. Everything started before shower, DFK, lots oftongue action, DT blowjob, her squirting just me fingering her clit didn't even out a finger! Witnessed her tagline 'tsunami coming' in shower! Man she trembled and held my shoulder so not to collapse, she spring cleaned my ahole by rimming in the shower, she gave a ice cube blow job back in the bed, consom on pumping her pussy and switched between ass to pussy and pussy to ass, she squirted thrice before I cum and she squirted while I cum when I was rubbing her clit, squirted over the glass near the bed. She wiped them with the tissues. 2nd round more hard pounding in her ass, managed to lift her snd with more penetration she came hard, squeezed my next and wet the floor, my knees and feet. Moved to missionary she out her legs behind her neck for easy access and pumping her ahole and she was squirting nonstop. She said I made her tired already. Pulled the condom and CIM and swalloed it without issues and final shower she did a super fast bbj with fast tongue action and I managedto come thrice! So much fun to be with! Will retun! Hell yeah!

Went for the movie Pirates of the carribeam and Dinner at Jeffers at terminal 21.

Ninja Snowhitw: 9:30 Pm, snow white, big room with sex chair (photo attached). Ninja is more of a filipina look but with a chinese face. Natural boobs but as beatiful as Leena's. Fun to play with. She can kiss with lots of tongue and so playful during DFK and BBBJ. But as others pointed out bit mechNical and time watcher. Hoewver, both pussy and ass is accomadting. If your athletic sex sofa will help to achieve all your sexual positions dreams in sex sofa. Face fucking and face sitting wasso easy, and fucking her ahole when her faceand body down to the floor is so sexy gives the view of ahole gaping when you pull out and shove it in. 2 shots, second shot on her face and she took it with smile.

More to come.

Been reading about tantra style where everything goes except actual penetration.

I have this weird rule (which I get cheesed of myself), where I allow everything for myself but no actual sex never paid for it.

Had to draw the line some place ended up drawing it there.

I went through this forum and some Japanese ones.

Came across a few massage places.

Anyone ever tried any of these, as not much is said about these.

These do only Outcall:

Blissbangkokmassage.

Tantricthaimassages.

Katherine-massage.

Butterflybangkok.

5 starbangkokmassage.

And these are with actual locations:

Honeybeemassagebangkok.

Kissbangkokmassage.

Exoticmassagebangkok.

Bitstylemassage.

Tantorimassage.

I have gone through most of these web sites, but would love a feed back. In bkk for 3 nights.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gullible;2040360]

Anyone ever tried any of these, as not much is said about these.

Honeybeemassagebangkok.

Kissbangkokmassage.

Exoticmassagebangkok.

I have gone through most of these web sites, but would love a feed back. In bkk for 3 nights.
[/QUOTE]Well the point of leaving feedback isn't to repeat it each time someone is going to BKK but for these people going to Bangkok to use the search engine to look for these reports.

The info is there, just look for it. Ie: click search thread and input Honey Bee you will see lots of reports

[QUOTE=Gullible;2040360]Been reading about tantra style where everything goes except actual penetration.

I have this weird rule (which I get cheesed of myself), where I allow everything for myself but no actual sex never paid for it.

Had to draw the line some place ended up drawing it there.

I went through this forum and some Japanese ones.

Came across a few massage places.

Anyone ever tried any of these, as not much is said about these.

These do only Outcall:

Blissbangkokmassage.

Tantricthaimassages.

Katherine-massage..[/QUOTE]I've tried all of them here is my assessment.

Tantori Massage. Place is 3rd world level stuff. Stopped in for a look and ran out in horror. The kind of place that can make you give up P4P out of guilt.

Honey Bee / Kiss / Passion: Its a complex all the same business they just spread out girls among three shops. I've tried 5 ladies and only 1 gave anything close to a tantric massage and that was Cake who is appears to have left. There are a couple of decent looking women there, Ploy being one and Pink being another.

Bitstyle / Exotic: Exotic claims that they are not related to Bitstyle but they have the same setup including website design so either they are operating a similar model as to HB / Kiss / Passion or they are copycats. Bitstyle / Exotic have more modern facilities but everything else is the same as the other Soi 22 places that are using the 'tantric massage' business model. I tried Milk from Bitstyle. She looks like her photos but slightly better in real. Shortish, but nice firm body and phat bum. Did the nuru B2B massage and it was OK, Mitu does a better B2B though. Much like Club 102, you're mostly paying extra for the more cleaner facilities but the service is the same which when compared to the PSE oilies, is actually quite average and often disappointing.

At the moment, the place that consistently gives great Tantric style massages is Mitu Massage. Its pricey, but if the massage aspect of the service is important to you as well as the sex then it may be worth it you.

Woke up around 11, went for few laps in the pool. Got to stop as it started raining. Went for Kunch around 1 street food stall opposite to Snowwhite and took motorbike to Tulip.

Tulip. Leena and Yin.

Tulip was with 8 girls, as I messaged Leena about threesome over Line, she said new girl yin is good with her. So off we go to the room upstairs. Leena went to bring the stuff while I was with Ying, from here it was pure filth. Ying was all over me ripping my dress off, Nude in a jiffy, Leena cane in to the room and gave a teasing look at me saying that I'm naughty to start without her. Me and Ying were in 69, while Leena deep rim my ass, and we switched positions now leena is squirting by me rubbing her whole Ying deep bjing me, I made Leena to be in doggy position and Ying to be blowing me and was finger fucking Leena in both pussy and ass and I was face fucking Ying, I came while Leeena squirted all over my finger and floor. Yong is true champ did swallowed without any issues. Off we go to the shower, Leena slidig me while Ying was blowing me, lots of anal play and I managed not to blew my load. Off to bed with more sloppy BBBJ from Ying while Leena rimming me. Condom on while Leena and Ying in 69 and I was fucking leena in the ass and pussy, she was tight in both. I was about to shoot and I instructed Ying to blow me, she removed the condom quickly and received my load until last drop. Awesome time!

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2040453]... Awesome time![/QUOTE]Obviously a great experience ... I envy you ;)

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2039564]Two shots possible at Ocean? How about BBBJ?[/QUOTE]To Goatscrot.

Not all girl offer BBBJ here 2 shots possible with tip ocean is a hit and miss last month I was there the line up down stair is not good, yes price is right and I try the new club 102 cost more but I got very good service and lineup is better than other soapie in the area that day.

Fast Eddie 48.

Thanks,

I did search for some of the outcall who clearly say no intercourse, any idea about those.

As for mentioning the list I was just trying to get at what I was talking about. Some are mentioned but some aren't.

If anyone knows of a great experience with sensual massage do share.

Yup mitu is on my list.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2040448]I've tried all of them here is my assessment.

Tantori Massage. Place is 3rd world level stuff. Stopped in for a look and ran out in horror. The kind of place that can make you give up P4P out of guilt.

Honey Bee / Kiss / Passion: Its a complex all the same business they just spread out girls among three shops. I've tried 5 ladies and only 1 gave anything close to a tantric massage and that was Cake who is appears to have left. There are a couple of decent looking women there, Ploy being one and Pink being another.

Bitstyle / Exotic: Exotic claims that they are not related to Bitstyle but they have the same setup including website design so either they are operating a similar model as to HB / Kiss / Passion or they are copycats. Bitstyle / Exotic have more modern facilities but everything else is the same as the other Soi 22 places that are using the 'tantric massage' business model. I tried Milk from Bitstyle. She looks like her photos but slightly better in real. Shortish, but nice firm body and phat bum. Did the nuru B2B massage and it was OK, Mitu does a better B2B though. Much like Club 102, you're mostly paying extra for the more cleaner facilities but the service is the same which when compared to the PSE oilies, is actually quite average and often disappointing.

At the moment, the place that consistently gives great Tantric style massages is Mitu Massage. Its pricey, but if the massage aspect of the service is important to you as well as the sex then it may be worth it you.[/QUOTE]

Went to Cherry Massage for the first time today (usually stick to snow white when I am here). Walked in after the flood was cleared and asked to see the girls. The mamasan first brought out one girl only and said she is really good I should go with her. She was not bad looking, but I know this is just a trick to get whomever is next in line a customer, so I insisted to see the rest. After a few minutes some more girls trickled into the lobby, about 8 in total. Half were really fat, like over 200 lbs and there were only 2 others aside from the first girl that looked decent to me. I asked who did A+, and all the big girls disappeared; ended up picking BB from the end of the lineup. She has darker skin than the rest, and is very small with small tits (about half a handful), but was hard to tell they were that small due to her padded bra. BB says she is 24. I took a 2 hour session with her, and we headed up to a room. BB left me in the room for over 10 minutes while she got her bag of stuff and bottles of water. No idea what took her so long, at other places they are only gone for a couple of minutes tops. When BB finally returned, we hopped in the shower and she washed me for a few minutes then sent me out while she cleaned herself. After refusing an actual massage, we got down to business with a condom BJ. This is unusual for me as these places are usually BBBJ; I asked about it and she said that she got a cut in her mouth that morning so is using a condom to be safe. Seemed like a good reason, so I didn't complain although if I had known about this beforehand I would have picked someone else. BJ was pretty good regardless, as BB was able to deepthroat pretty well; although I was unable to cum after about 15 minutes so we moved on to anal. Did a few position and was able to get a shot off after only about 20 minutes (usually I have to take the full 2 hours to get off a single shot). BB then took another shower and left the room for another 5 minutes. When BB returned, she insisted on giving me an oil massage. I was still in recovery mode and a bit curious as despite having visited many massage parlors in the past, I had never actually received a massage in my life, so I accepted. BB actually seems to have some decent massage skills, though it felt like she was just trying to run down the clock so I stopped her after she spent over 15 minutes on my legs and back. With just under an hour left, I wanted to try her pussy. I fucked BB in about half a dozen positions over the next 30 minutes, then she complained of being too tired and moved on to giving me a HJ with some kind of lube. I wasn't going to let her win this with a HJ, so after 15 minutes and trying 3 different kinds of lube with her HJ, she was getting frustrated that I wouldn't shoot. I suggested we try vaginal again and she reluctantly agreed, and I was finally able to shoot for a 2nd time at the end of the session after a few more positions. Afterwards, she said that she likes anal better, but my dick was too big for her pussy. I'm not that big, only a little more than 7"; but BB is a smaller girl. She said she was tired after the session and had to still work for 4 more hours.

Overall, I probably wouldn't go back. I did have 2 very satisfying shots, and BB is a good looking girl with a fit body and was tighter than most others I've been with, but I felt there was just too much BS during the session. I also forgot to mention, about halfway through the session I heard a baby crying in the lobby; really ruined the moment and the crying went on for at least 15 minutes. I think I will stick with Snow White from now on.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2040448]I've tried all of them here is my assessment.

Tantori Massage. Place is 3rd world level stuff. Stopped in for a look and ran out in horror. The kind of place that can make you give up P4P out of guilt.

Honey Bee / Kiss / Passion: Its a complex all the same business they just spread out girls among three shops. I've tried 5 ladies and only 1 gave anything close to a tantric massage and that was Cake who is appears to have left. There are a couple of decent looking women there, Ploy being one and Pink being another.

At the moment, the place that consistently gives great Tantric style massages is Mitu Massage. Its pricey, but if the massage aspect of the service is important to you as well as the sex then it may be worth it you.[/QUOTE]I have had real mind blowing tantric massages in Tokyo and Shanghai. I have tried some of the places mentioned here although not Mitu. I can safely tell you they do not provide anything close to a true sensual tantric experience. I was told by one of the girls when I asked about her training the boss told them to watch some web sites nothing more. LOL.

[QUOTE=Gullible;2040360]Been reading about tantra style where everything goes except actual penetration....
[/QUOTE]My impression about Tantric sex is that penetration can be a part of it. The Cosmopolitan magazine even has an article about Tantric sex positions:
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/tantric-sex-positions/[/URL]

Perhaps some people interpret and practice it in a different way from others. But according to some people who practice it, Tantric sex is all about connecting with one's partner and prolonging their orgasmic experience. You don't necessarily need penetration to achieve orgasm with your partner. But it's not something Tantric practitioners deliberately exclude either. And when they do have penetration, then they make it last for a long time.
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a41919/sex-talk-realness-what-tantric-sex-is-really-like/[/URL]

If the Tantric massage places in Bangkok don't allow penetration, then I'd say that this is an unusual interpretation of what Tantric sex is supposed to be. It's more like they are just using the name 'Tantric' for marketing purposes, rather than practicing it truly and fully.

Leena is an amazing one. Energy fucks like I've never seen.

Racking up the reviews. Must be by far the most popular there at the moment. Told me how much she earn each month. I can totally believe it.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2040453]Woke up around 11, went for few laps in the pool. Got to stop as it started raining. Went for Kunch around 1 street food stall opposite to Snowwhite and took motorbike to Tulip.

Tulip. Leena and Yin.

Tulip was with 8 girls, as I messaged Leena about threesome over Line, she said new girl yin is good with her. So off we go to the room upstairs. Leena went to bring the stuff while I was with Ying, from here it was pure filth. Ying was all over me ripping my dress off, Nude in a jiffy, Leena cane in to the room and gave a teasing look at me saying that I'm naughty to start without her. Me and Ying were in 69, while Leena deep rim my ass, and we switched positions now leena is squirting by me rubbing her whole Ying deep bjing me, I made Leena to be in doggy position and Ying to be blowing me and was finger fucking Leena in both pussy and ass and I was face fucking Ying, I came while Leeena squirted all over my finger and floor. Yong is true champ did swallowed without any issues. Off we go to the shower, Leena slidig me while Ying was blowing me, lots of anal play and I managed not to blew my load. Off to bed with more sloppy BBBJ from Ying while Leena rimming me. Condom on while Leena and Ying in 69 and I was fucking leena in the ass and pussy, she was tight in both. I was about to shoot and I instructed Ying to blow me, she removed the condom quickly and received my load until last drop. Awesome time![/QUOTE]

Strong line-up, maybe 20 girls. Two I would have repeated (Chris and Foto), but chose to go with an untested one, Oil. Her body is great, but once I got close to her I realized her facial skin is not very smooth. I decided to take care of it by dimming the lights in the bedroom and it worked.

She is very skinny, small natural tits but very sensitive, but the best thing about her is that she takes care of her man very well. Undress me, DFK, dress me up afterwards. She let herself be rubbed on the clit in the spoon position and she was getting excited, which got me to shoot my load faster than I normally do. Time breakdown was: 30 minutes with a continuous strong erection in the jacuzzi (she was doing more than washing me up), 15 minutes banging the shit out of her, 30 minutes recuperating / half-dozing while she was massaging me gently. Overall a good 90-minute session that left me regenerated, refreshed and rejuvenated.

Weird thing is that she only undresses and dresses hidden inside a towel. After I'd penetrated her naked body, that shyness is endearing. I tipped her.

Would I recommend? Depends how hung-up you are about smoothness of facial skin. As I said, in bedroom conditions you don't notice. I guess I'd categorize her as a real GFE. Would I repeat? Probably not, I'd repeat Chris or Foto first. Chris was the exact opposite: pretty cold, business-like, indifferent and detached outside of the actual intercourse itself, but this time she gave me a lot of winks and indication-of-interest, and she saw me pick somebody else who was clearly less beautiful but a nicer person, so maybe next time she'll be more comfortable and make more effort to pretend to be friendly. I am curious now.

[QUOTE=Nomad555;2040758]Half were really fat, like over 200 lbs and there were only 2 others aside from the first girl that looked decent to me. [/QUOTE]Ha Ha! That's a little amusing. They would have to be truly enormous to weigh that much. 200 pounds = 90.7 Kilos.

Only the very tall girls are allowed to be over 50 Kilos to suit me. Short girls have to be no more than 45 Kilos. 60 to 70 kilos is fucking fat already. 90 is almost unheard of I would have thought. You would never be able to find the pussy or the ass hole for that matter.

[QUOTE=Supmam;2040950]Leena is an amazing one. Energy fucks like I've never seen.

Racking up the reviews. Must be by far the most popular there at the moment. Told me how much she earn each month. I can totally believe it.[/QUOTE]Leena is a performer. Had a few sessions. But honestly, despite her performance, I just need a better looking gal. It seems the days of gals that perform like Leena but look good are over. I miss so many of the oily gals from days gone by who were performers and also not bad to look at. And yes, I have had Ninja and Emmy at SW and they look fine, do everything, but they are both missing that intensity that one used to get from the oily gals.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2041326]Leena is a performer. Had a few sessions. But honestly, despite her performance, I just need a better looking gal. It seems the days of gals that perform like Leena but look good are over. I miss so many of the oily gals from days gone by who were performers and also not bad to look at. And yes, I have had Ninja and Emmy at SW and they look fine, do everything, but they are both missing that intensity that one used to get from the oily gals.[/QUOTE]I've been going to farang oriented Suhk oilies since Apple, Cherry, and Dao were at their peak and I've never seen a truly stunning girl who also provided a top notch PSE. Some will have hot enough bodies but nothing ever above a 7 overall in the looks department. Anyone above that just don't need to do PSE to make good money.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2040959]Strong line-up, maybe 20 girls. Two I would have repeated (Chris and Foto), but chose to go with an untested one, Oil. Her body is great, but once I got close to her I realized her facial skin is not very smooth. I decided to take care of it by dimming the lights in the bedroom and it worked.

She is very skinny, small natural tits but very sensitive, but the best thing about her is that she takes care of her man very well. Undress me, DFK, dress me up afterwards. She let herself be rubbed on the clit in the spoon position and she was getting excited, which got me to shoot my load faster than I normally do. Time breakdown was: 30 minutes with a continuous strong erection in the jacuzzi (she was doing more than washing me up), 15 minutes banging the shit out of her, 30 minutes recuperating / half-dozing while she was massaging me gently. Overall a good 90-minute session that left me regenerated, refreshed and rejuvenated.

Weird thing is that she only undresses and dresses hidden inside a towel. After I'd penetrated her naked body, that shyness is endearing. I tipped her.

Would I recommend? Depends how hung-up you are about smoothness of facial skin. As I said, in bedroom conditions you don't notice. I guess I'd categorize her as a real GFE. Would I repeat? Probably not, I'd repeat Chris or Foto first. Chris was the exact opposite: pretty cold, business-like, indifferent and detached outside of the actual intercourse itself, but this time she gave me a lot of winks and indication-of-interest, and she saw me pick somebody else who was clearly less beautiful but a nicer person, so maybe next time she'll be more comfortable and make more effort to pretend to be friendly. I am curious now.[/QUOTE]Club 102 has a very interesting line up. I noticed some girls have a good personality. I chose a cute small but slightly think chick. Her name was Nana, big natural tits, energetic and no baby damage. Good GFE. I took her twice. She too sometimes suddenly gets shy and starts covering herself with the towel between the breaks.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2040313]
Ninja Snowhitw: 9:30 Pm, snow white, big room with sex chair (photo attached). Ninja is more of a filipina look but with a chinese face. Natural boobs but as beatiful as Leena's. Fun to play with. She can kiss with lots of tongue and so playful during DFK and BBBJ. But as others pointed out bit mechNical and time watcher. Hoewver, both pussy and ass is accomadting. If your athletic sex sofa will help to achieve all your sexual positions dreams in sex sofa. Face fucking and face sitting wasso easy, and fucking her ahole when her faceand body down to the floor is so sexy gives the view of ahole gaping when you pull out and shove it in. 2 shots, second shot on her face and she took it with smile.
[/QUOTE]Did you just come on her face without asking? I asked her a couple of times and she was insistent that that's not something she does. Seems she doesn't value her regular customers so I've given up on her.

Yes agreed. A little lacking in the looks department.

Be great to find a pornstar who looks like a pornstar, so to speak.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2041326]Leena is a performer. Had a few sessions. But honestly, despite her performance, I just need a better looking gal. It seems the days of gals that perform like Leena but look good are over. I miss so many of the oily gals from days gone by who were performers and also not bad to look at. And yes, I have had Ninja and Emmy at SW and they look fine, do everything, but they are both missing that intensity that one used to get from the oily gals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supmam;2041406]Be great to find a pornstar who looks like a pornstar, so to speak.[/QUOTE]Sadly that is a unicorn these days. The better looking they are, the less they do. And they get away with it.

Hi,

Has anyone had a session with Ranya or Yaya from Bamboo massage?

Both look hot! I am tempted to book both of them for 2 hour session!

[QUOTE=Zam007;2041459]Hi,

Has anyone had a session with Ranya or Yaya from Bamboo massage?

Both look hot! I am tempted to book both of them for 2 hour session![/QUOTE]Don't use the website photos as a guideline for who to choose at Bamboo. I did recently see Yaya and she look nothing like the photos. Heavy photoshopping and taken many years and many kilos ago. Go look for yourself before you make any decision.

Will add that most American Asian pornstar do nothing for me. I used to like the amateur girls on Asian Street meat, but the dude is a complete idiot. Asian candy pop? Has some nice girls.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2041444]Sadly that is a unicorn these days. The better looking they are, the less they do. And they get away with it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2041444]Sadly that is a unicorn these days. The better looking they are, the less they do. And they get away with it.[/QUOTE]The freedom that comes with being in demand. What's interesting is that the person who provides the best service will typically make less per session than the more beautiful SPs even if their service is poor.

I would also assume that the 'unicorns' rarely make it out of the Thai magical forest.

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2041639]I would also assume that the 'unicorns' rarely make it out of the Thai magical forest.[/QUOTE]Thai guys usually pay top money for really beauty (for their eyes), usually they are less interested in top performance especially PSE.

[QUOTE=BangkokBull;2041600]Don't use the website photos as a guideline for who to choose at Bamboo. I did recently see Yaya and she look nothing like the photos. Heavy photoshopping and taken many years and many kilos ago. Go look for yourself before you make any decision.[/QUOTE]Thanks dude!

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2041677]Thai guys usually pay top money for really beauty (for their eyes), usually they are less interested in top performance especially PSE.[/QUOTE]They are interested in both but the true unicorns are the types that end up in some lofty condo all to themselves, a comfortable monthly allowance, and a cute little fluffy dog to keep them company.

[QUOTE=BangkokBull;2041600]Don't use the website photos as a guideline for who to choose at Bamboo. I did recently see Yaya and she look nothing like the photos. Heavy photoshopping and taken many years and many kilos ago. Go look for yourself before you make any decision.[/QUOTE]I was checking out the pics from this thread directly. I was wondering Where does this 'Yaya' work! She seem kinda cute!

[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2041639]The freedom that comes with being in demand. What's interesting is that the person who provides the best service will typically make less per session than the more beautiful SPs even if their service is poor.

I would also assume that the 'unicorns' rarely make it out of the Thai magical forest.[/QUOTE]Actually many gals are heading overseas these days. Korea, UAE, etc. More buck per bang. But yes, I would imagine the best lookers never make it out of the Thai forest and are swallowed up by well-heeled locals. And probably don't have to provide good service there either.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2041709]I was checking out the pics from this thread directly. I was wondering Where does this 'Yaya' work! She seem kinda cute![/QUOTE]Yaya is currently working in Korea. And yes, that is exactly what she looks like. No photoshop in that picture. Also she never worked at Bamboo. She worked for Candy on 24/1. Since she is in Korea she has got blond hair

[QUOTE=BkkMick;2041950]Yaya is currently working in Korea. And yes, that is exactly what she looks like. No photoshop in that picture. Also she never worked at Bamboo. She worked for Candy on 24/1. Since she is in Korea she has got blond hair[/QUOTE]Thais get three months in Korea and then have to leave for a month. They are not supposed to work. Just read an article that the Korean gov is finding lots of Thais are working and have started deporting. Actually deported some legit tourists which was the reason for the article. If there is a change to the amount of time Thais get in Korea we might see some of our gals return to work here as it would not really profit agents to have them over there for just a month. We've lost quite a few gals to the land of metal chopsticks.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2042079]We've lost quite a few gals to the land of metal chopsticks.[/QUOTE]Nonny from Snow White got married to one. I'm glad I fucked her arse before she left.

[QUOTE=BkkMick;2041950]Yaya is currently working in Korea. And yes, that is exactly what she looks like. No photoshop in that picture. Also she never worked at Bamboo. She worked for Candy on 24/1. Since she is in Korea she has got blond hair[/QUOTE]Oh! She looked kinda cute! Anyway, I will be there next week. I will explore for better options.

Thanks for the reply!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2042079]Thais get three months in Korea and then have to leave for a month. They are not supposed to work. Just read an article that the Korean gov is finding lots of Thais are working and have started deporting. Actually deported some legit tourists which was the reason for the article. If there is a change to the amount of time Thais get in Korea we might see some of our gals return to work here as it would not really profit agents to have them over there for just a month. We've lost quite a few gals to the land of metal chopsticks.[/QUOTE]When I was in Seoul, there were all kinds of Thai massage joints. Seems a lot of them are getting work visas and are able to stay whereas I'm guessing that the 3 month rule applies to tourists. Second, sex for sale is everywhere in Seoul. Some places have girls from China and thailand (no koreans, are foreigner friendly) and are really easy to find so if the Police wanted to they could deport them. It's literally in ever single building. Chances are there is a place offering sex for money (not necessarily open to the public via walk-in). I imagine all those Thai massage places have a channel for offering sex, especially if it's outcall (I think I recall hearing reports or something about outcall Thai girls in Seoul). Not sure how all these Thais are getting work visas to work in massage shops but they are, and that's where they are going to if they don't like Thailand (too slow). The better looking ones tend to stick around Thailand since they don't need to leave to make the money. One pattaya soi 6 girl on my Thai P4 p facebook account went to Korea right around the start of low season (start of may). Says she doesn't want to come back to Thailand.

So the only thing to speculate on is if the Korean gov will crack down on this. I imagine the women, both p4 p workers and non p4 p don't want competition. From what I hear, girls have guys by the balls in Korea (hold all the sexual power) and many Korean guys are just lonely. So I could see how they let it stay because Korean guys want it, but I could also see how they crack down on it for 2 reasons: they don't want Korea to have a Bangkok Image, as other foreigners will start showing up to have sex with the Thai girls. They are already demolishing the redlight districts and trying to clean up their Korea-war image of a US servicemen walking around with his pet prositute (they are a very proud people). And also I can see how the p4 p pimps / owners / girls don't want to compete with outsiders (Thais). So I imagine there will be a crackdown, just as there was and is a crackdown on Laotion / Burma girls working in Bangkok brothels (nataree and other shops had to let go of their foreign employees, forcing them to freelance).

For any Prae of Mango fans, she returned last Friday.

However she is not my spec any more, or for now. 4 months of eating sticky rice in the province has taken a toll, a several kilos fatty toll. Now has reddish hair. This makes her look a bit older and is now, hard to recognise and far behind my favourite bar girls for looks, in both body and face. Her face is too round for me. Yes I think someone told me that long ago.

For guys that don't need skinny, she will probably be fine. Pussy will have shrunk from 4 months rest.

The new look very sleek Oom from Crazy House, worked a treat for me last week. I turned the lighting up to get best view of her. She tried to hide behind a pillow. LOL I get too fussy in my old age. I am now feeling weak too. Perhaps the flue is coming on.

I guess all us fat old men are not exactly turning the girls on either.

My regular girls get fewer and fewer. My GF at 39 is still slim and curvy and a big turn on, when I can get her in the mood. Perhaps I will take a big holiday from mongering. Or time to try a gorgeous pornstar escort. LOL

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2042079]Thais get three months in Korea and then have to leave for a month. They are not supposed to work. Just read an article that the Korean gov is finding lots of Thais are working and have started deporting. Actually deported some legit tourists which was the reason for the article. If there is a change to the amount of time Thais get in Korea we might see some of our gals return to work here as it would not really profit agents to have them over there for just a month. We've lost quite a few gals to the land of metal chopsticks.[/QUOTE]Annie who used to work at Cherry has been in Korea for more than 3 years now. Of 4 ladies I know who tried just this month to go through an agent to Korea, 2 were admitted and 2 were sent back. One of my friends who did not make it told me that on her day nearly 50 girls were sent back to Thailand and that Korean immigration is tightening up the controls. But the selection process seems quite erratic.

[QUOTE=BkkMick;2042424]Annie who used to work at Cherry has been in Korea for more than 3 years now. Of 4 ladies I know who tried just this month to go through an agent to Korea, 2 were admitted and 2 were sent back. One of my friends who did not make it told me that on her day nearly 50 girls were sent back to Thailand and that Korean immigration is tightening up the controls. But the selection process seems quite erratic.[/QUOTE]Certainly would like to see Tom / Min back in BKK. She's been on the Korean game for almost 2 years now.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2040313]
Day 1- Will from Snowwhite.

Thanks to Droom Doom for his report. Will is Thailand's Pipper Perri (petite porn star famous for awkward poisitons). Will is 36, barely 155 cm fair skin and no baby free. Dripped to my hotel on time and such a darling. If you want a+ but also GFE the. She is the one. We were making out in bed before shower for 10 mins, super DFK, undressed and been in 69 in no time before shower. Deep throat, sloppy wet blow job and super rimming while DATY and she cums. She doesn't swuirt but obvious get off as I can see her ahole contracting. Went to bathtub with our wine glasses, slide games, totally open for anal, lot of fun. Back to bed, condom on pounded her ahole rightaway reverse cowgirl, doggy, standing and came in missionalry while she suck my thumb. She didn't wasted a minute to wash up quickly and giving me super bbj for 2nd round. Moved to sofa she is on top and did cowgirl for 10 minutes and came in her pussy. If you're too big it may be tough to be in her ahole. Super tight. We cuddled for 15 minutes with lots of DFK and messy bbj. Showered and she left. Will return! For sure![/QUOTE]Had a sesh with her a couple of days ago. Very nice gal. Good attitude, bright sunny personality, and cute. Tries hard to please and has a so-so skill set. But, sorry guys, she has had a kid. Breasts are a giveaway and when she bends over there is some slack in the stomach. But not really bad. WIR. I would not. Just not quite what I am looking for.

I did meet the French guy today, asked him for the rates and how things work. He dint share any information. Took me around 1/2 hour to find the place. It is behind 7/11. Avoid going after 11, it shuts at 12 midnight!

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2029713]I just came back from club 102 first time there is a nice place own by a french guy with french design even smell like a french working girl house about 15 girl available half is very good looking but they are busy no room available for 40 min so I left and go to addict next door only 4 girl none that I like, I will go back to the hotel take get some sleep and go back to club 102 tonight.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]

Do you know what are the rates at 102 going on. What would be the best time to go their!

I have moved to Nana area, seems to have a decent action scene here as well, any recommendations!

[QUOTE=InterTravel224;2043090]I did meet the French guy today, asked him for the rates and how things work. He dint share any information. Took me around 1/2 hour to find the place. It is behind 7/11. Avoid going after 11, it shuts at 12 midnight![/QUOTE]Obviously you are a newbie. The location is shown very clearly on Google Maps. Use it! Not hard to find at all in the modern day. 25 years ago we did not have Google Maps to help find places.

It is also well known that most massage places close at midnight. The web site for the shop will normally show the open hours and prices, unfortunately this may not be true for Club 102. So I rate their website as fancy but poor. The best time to go to Massage joints is 5 PM to 6 PM, perhaps slightly later for top Soapies.

I guess English is not your first language, but try to make your questions clear English. I don't know the prices.

Unlike others, I don't find their line up that exciting.

I did visit club 107 tdy. Found their lineup to be okay. The rats are very expensive. I paid 2400 bath FR 40 minute 1 pop. There were nearly 20+ gals, the owner was kind enough to introduce the lineup to me.

The gal I selected was young, had a good body but poor massage skills. Nearly spent 10 minutes in bathing and after 5 minutes of massage got into action mode. Was not very open to try different positions. Post the pop, returned back 2 massage mode which lasted for 5 minutes. I felt she was very much in hurry, checking her phone nearly 10 times in our entire interaction. This was a big put-up off, however she did try FR some GFE experience, but no kissing as well.

My recommendation to newbies is to try to avoid this place. There are other places as well online options where gal would come to your hotel room FR the same amount. Just be sure to select the rite hotel!

The reason I went to this place was FR the massage, which I was disappointing ib. Probably if I would have selected a longer time would have been better. Needed to find a better soapie!

At Syzygies: I am sharing my reviews through phone, avoid any indentation / grammatical errors.

Overall nice first trip to bkk. Another small tip FR newbies: undertake detailed research and choose your hotels wisely.

A shout to all the senior members FR their valuable inputs and advice.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2043315]Obviously you are a newbie. The location is shown very clearly on Google Maps. Use it! Not hard to find at all in the modern day. 25 years ago we did not have Google Maps to help find places.

It is also well known that most massage places close at midnight. The web site for the shop will normally show the open hours and prices, unfortunately this may not be true for Club 102. So I rate their website as fancy but poor. The best time to go to Massage joints is 5 PM to 6 PM, perhaps slightly later for top Soapies.

I guess English is not your first language, but try to make your questions clear English. I don't know the prices.

Unlike others, I don't find their line up that exciting.[/QUOTE]

Do parlors like Mango, Analisa, Allstar allow only a single pop or more?

Some of the reports say one and some unlimited if you can manage.

Not many have tried it.

Any recommendations for milking table. Is it incall or outcall.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gullible;2043543]Not many have tried it.

Any recommendations for milking table. Is it incall or outcall.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No one here seems to have tried it, Why don't you try and give a report here for everyone's benefit?

[QUOTE=Gullible;2043525]Do parlors like Mango, Analisa, Allstar allow only a single pop or more?

Some of the reports say one and some unlimited if you can manage.[/QUOTE]Mango, Cherry, Snowwhite, Tulip are the current multipop PSE avenues.

Others you got to ask, which ladies allow double, most ladies only do single.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2045163]No one here seems to have tried it, Why don't you try and give a report here for everyone's benefit?[/QUOTE]I think there is a single report on this forum about it. Use the search feature.

From what I have seen, there is a pair that was / is offering this service as outcall. They aren't very attractive but I think the service is what guys are paying for, not the looks.

[QUOTE=InterTravel224;2043378]I did visit club 107 tdy.[/QUOTE]Is Club 107 a different venue than Club 102?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2042667]Had a sesh with her a couple of days ago. Very nice gal. Good attitude, bright sunny personality, and cute. Tries hard to please and has a so-so skill set. But, sorry guys, she has had a kid. Breasts are a giveaway and when she bends over there is some slack in the stomach. But not really bad. WIR. I would not. Just not quite what I am looking for.[/QUOTE]Good to see you like the attitude albeit the skills! But I'm still confused as I couldn't see any baby damage even slightest, may be the petites got me! Loved banging her ass in standing position! Me being skinny prefer petite girls for pounding!

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2045856]Good to see you like the attitude albeit the skills! But I'm still confused as I couldn't see any baby damage even slightest, may be the petites got me! Loved banging her ass in standing position! Me being skinny prefer petite girls for pounding![/QUOTE]One look at the breasts will tell you she has a kid. And when she bends over you can see the wrinkles in her stomach. She also has a hemorrhoid. As I said, skills were ok, but far from gals like Dao, Golf, and Opor. All in all a very nice gal though.

[QUOTE=InterTravel224;2043378]At Syzygies: I am sharing my reviews through phone, avoid any indentation / grammatical errors.
[/QUOTE]My English is also not the best at times. It can be said we type "near English", or sometimes not so near. Using a phone causes me to make many spelling errors or sometimes to delete text unintentionally. We can't expect perfect English all the time naturally.

In your sentence above, it is unclear what is your intended meaning (it's not quite good English), since using a phone does not avoid grammatical errors quite obviously. The rest of the post was fairly clear although FR is not an abbreviation I am used to. French? Normally FR means a Field Report.

I often edit after posting to fix the bad errors as far as possible. Sometimes I try to reread my intended posts before posting, to find any very unclear text or errors, and remove things I should not have said.

[QUOTE=Gullible;2043543]Not many have tried it.

Any recommendations for milking table. Is it incall or outcall.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I seem to recall some mention of it a while back, so I did a google search and [I]surprise surprise[/I] this came up: [URL]https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/[/URL].

SL.

Online review for this site does not look positive.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2046105]I seem to recall some mention of it a while back, so I did a google search and [I]surprise surprise[/I] this came up: [URL]https://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/[/URL].

SL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TempStories;2047099]Online review for this site does not look positive.[/QUOTE]Not shocked: a bunch of red flags to my untrained eye, but too each their own. Was more surprised that the bloke asking could not find it with a simple internet search.

If I wanted to get [I]that[/I] kinky busy (for the same amount of baht) I would rather do a 2 x 90 minutes Eden Club or Devils Den duo, as the milking table concept holds little appeal for me.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2047360]Not shocked: a bunch of red flags to my untrained eye, but too each their own. Was more surprised that the bloke asking could not find it with a simple internet search.

If I wanted to get [I]that[/I] kinky busy (for the same amount of baht) I would rather do a 2 x 90 minutes Eden Club or Devils Den duo, as the milking table concept holds little appeal for me.

SL.[/QUOTE]I tried it a while back and wrote a report. It was different, but I thought expensive for the experience. WIR: No, too many new things to try at a better rate.

My recent MP visits didn't go as well as I expected.

I should have checked out Ocean 2 and other high end places.

Girl Icecream.

Place: Club 102.

I first checked out the girls in Addict Massage and the girls were not that good. Mango at that time had just two girls, and others nearby were not great either.

I remembered club 102 from my previous Bangkok visits that the girls were quite good. I entered and saw some pretty ones, but my favourite girl Nana was not there. My eyes caught with one shy slim cute girl. Later I found that her name was Icecream! What a name.

I selected the jacuzzi for one hour 30 minutes, I forgot how much I paid, but it was around 2. 8 k.

We headed to the room, and then there was the usual ritual of me being made to wait like 10 minutes when she went to get her kit. The girl looked quite cute, she does not look like a super model, but with a bit of work she can kill it.

We hoped into the tub and it started quite well, she rubbed her ass over me and teased me but with a hint of shyness. We both washed each other.

She started a slow massage but then I started getting bored as my dick was quite hard then, I wanted to make use of it. I asked her for BJ which she obliged. She sucked quite well. I remember that girls in Club 102 took a good care of the smell down there, from my previous experiences so I went for a 69, but boy it smelled like there some rotting fish down there, I completely lost the mood. I decided to make use of the time so I decided to fuck straight away, after pounding in missionary position for about 10 minutes, I turned her over to doggy position. But as I banged the smell got worse, and I just pulled my dick out, cleaned it, and walked away despite having over 40 minutes and not yet cum.

I didn't talk much. I just wanted to get out. So I walked to snow white.

Face 8/10.

Body 9/10 slim and no baby damage.

Attitude 7/10.

BJ 8/10.

DFK, none!

Overall experience 4/10.

Snow white:

Girl Emmy.

After I Entered, I was introduced to the girls a guy. My eyes caught the one with the best smile and I paid 2.2 k for full experience including A Level for one hour.

After the typical wait for 10 minutes, the girl entered, grabbed me into the shower and gave me an awesome rubdown, with plenty of ass rubbing. I slid two fingers into her super clean ass and it felt nice and warm and she had no complaints.

After the shower we dried each other and I lay in bed, she gave me and awesome nuru kinda massage you see in porn movies, and plenty of attention to my ass. She rimmed for like 10 minutes and I never knew I would enjoy it that much.

After few minutes I decided to go straight for the ass, I warmed it up with lots of lube and slid my dick in gently. Unlike others she didn't complain about the size, veteran for sure!

I banged her really hard in missionary and doggy while she moaned, but the girl who was being banged next door was screaming like she was in labor!

Changed position multiple times and and finally cummed after like 25 minutes. It was an amazing orgasm after a long time.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 8/10 no baby.

Attitude: 10/10.

Experience: 10/10.

Bonus is back after a three month break in Nakhom Pathom. First session with her in a couple of years. Personally I think she looks better now than she used to. She's 23 with not an ounce of fat on her. An amazing baby free body and a cute face to boot. IMHO she is by far one of the best looking gals in the PSE shops. And a good performer. Not A+ buteverything else is on the menu including rimming. BBBJ is pretty good. She has a few techniques but is not in the same league with some of the BJ superstars like Dao or others from days past. FS is good. She moves well and never runs out of energy and the visuals are fantastic. WIR- At some point yes, as she is one of the few lookers who performs.

I got a shot of vitamin V and started my journey to 102. I chose this MP based on previous mostly positive reports. I got there about 8:30 and was lead to the LU. Upon the recommendation of the mamasan I choice Cip a solid 7. 5. My first impression of the LU was quite positive as usually most of the MPs have at most 4 girls. Pleasantly this time was a full house. Having read the website details I was under the impression I could use my credit card. As I proceeded to pull my card I was told only cash was allowed. But that is not what is says on the website. I did not argue as I was more interested in seeing Ciip without the clothes. So I paid 2600.00 for 1 hour. In the room she did not disappoint after the clothes came off. Now the session had the usual shower and the massage. I would say the program to this point had my little guy paying attention. And then she tells me to lie down on my back and pulls out a condom and chokes the enthusiasm out of the little guy. After this things went down hill. I just have problems with CBJ as they do not do much for me. At the same time I am not sure what to do at this point when the service provider clearly prefers CBJ and is probably uncomfortable with the BBBJ. This BS situation has happened a couple of times over the years and has rarely turned out well. This was the case here as well. I did a missionary and cleaned up and left. I have said this before I think there should be some kind of a rating system that points out girls who will only do CBJ. You have the A+ why not a B+

[QUOTE=Zam007;2048852]

Snow white:

Girl Emmy.

After I Entered, I was introduced to the girls a guy. My eyes caught the one with the best smile and I paid 2.2 k for full experience including A Level for one hour.[/QUOTE]This does not clearly explain the pricing at Snow White. There is no extra charge for A level service. One hour has always been 1,900 for 1 hour, 2,100 for 90 minutes, and 2,400 for 2 hours. If the girl does A level, it's not extra. Either this punter was overscharged, drunk and forgot, or recently SW has had a price increase.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2051217]Either this punter was overscharged, drunk and forgot, or recently SW has had a price increase.[/QUOTE]Or he just gave tip.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2051281]Or he just gave tip.[/QUOTE]I think he went for Nuru option which is 300 more than the oil option.

At Cherry.

Name: New.

Big girl. Very bubbly personality.

For gentlemen who love curvy ladies.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2051217]This does not clearly explain the pricing at Snow White. There is no extra charge for A level service. One hour has always been 1,900 for 1 hour, 2,100 for 90 minutes, and 2,400 for 2 hours. If the girl does A level, it's not extra. Either this punter was overscharged, drunk and forgot, or recently SW has had a price increase.[/QUOTE]I chose the oil massage, hence I paid a bit more. Later she told me not to select that, she advised me to select the normal massage and bargain for oil massage for free. First time In SW.

Came into BKK last night. Was able to take off from family obligations today and took cab to where action was. First I ran by the no sex massage school off Soi 39 to check it out for a later, (I did and it was awesome). I took off from there and had every intent to size up the talent at a bunch of oilies at the nearby Soi 24 and 24/1 pantheon, with Addict and Snow White at the top of my list. So I passed by a bunch, and went down that first little alley-cul de sac and walked by Orient. Damn, that line up outside made my head turn in those slinky black mini-dresses. The first one that approached me with the price menu did it for me. She had a runway model body, but not too skinny. She's a 30 yo stone cold foxy MILF, IMO, by the name of Popae, (Pooh-pie). Tall for a Thai woman. Yeah, so much for shopping around, but it got better.

I took the 2 HR 2,300 option. I didn't want to rush the first sex I've had since my divorce and life as a single dad. Damn she was good: DFK, BBBJ, deep throat with the tongue thing, CFS. When we first made out, I had her in top, I clasped her hands under hers and she instinctively knew that I want her to simulate subduing me, pushing my hands down while she worked her tongue in my mouth and elsewhere. Such a freaking turn on, but my PSE tastes are simple at the moment. Tipped her 3 k, will return. Yeah, who needs gogos with this action?

How as her service? Planing to take her.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2051505]At Cherry.

Name: New.

Big girl. Very bubbly personality.

For gentlemen who love curvy ladies.[/QUOTE]

She is one the best performers I have found in oilies in Singaore. Has perfect body. No tummy / babysign, perfect shaped boobs, smooth and tight asshole. Did her again yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed in all positions. Her positive attitude is amazing. No qualms despite more than 1 hour of anal. WIR for sure.

[QUOTE=SearcherMan;2051608]Came into BKK last night. Was able to take off from family obligations today and took cab to where action was. First I ran by the no sex massage school off Soi 39 to check it out for a later, (I did and it was awesome). I took off from there and had every intent to size up the talent at a bunch of oilies at the nearby Soi 24 and 24/1 pantheon, with Addict and Snow White at the top of my list. So I passed by a bunch, and went down that first little alley-cul de sac and walked by Orient. Damn, that line up outside made my head turn in those slinky black mini-dresses. The first one that approached me with the price menu did it for me. She had a runway model body, but not too skinny. She's a 30 yo stone cold foxy MILF, IMO, by the name of Popae, (Pooh-pie). Tall for a Thai woman. Yeah, so much for shopping around, but it got better.

I took the 2 HR 2,300 option. I didn't want to rush the first sex I've had since my divorce and life as a single dad. Damn she was good: DFK, BBBJ, deep throat with the tongue thing, CFS. When we first made out, I had her in top, I clasped her hands under hers and she instinctively knew that I want her to simulate subduing me, pushing my hands down while she worked her tongue in my mouth and elsewhere. Such a freaking turn on, but my PSE tastes are simple at the moment. Tipped her 3 k, will return. Yeah, who needs gogos with this action?[/QUOTE]For you to tip her 3,000 Baht, she must of really rocked your world. I guess it had something to do with a long period without getting any as well. She won't forget you anyways. My max tip for a massage girl has been 1,000 but you just topped me sir. I am a firm believer in tipping for good service and when a lady goes the extra mile for me, I will reward her.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2051217]This does not clearly explain the pricing at Snow White. There is no extra charge for A level service. One hour has always been 1,900 for 1 hour, 2,100 for 90 minutes, and 2,400 for 2 hours. If the girl does A level, it's not extra. Either this punter was overscharged, drunk and forgot, or recently SW has had a price increase.[/QUOTE]Visited Snow White a few days back for a session with Ninja (I feel and she intimated she's getting really jaded working her ass off) and was surprised to find the menu had only the massage fees listed. The deal with the girl was to be separately negotiated in the room. They know me as somewhat of a regular and that I prefer this option which they accede to but I do remember on previous visits being presented only with the all-inclusive menu. Has there been a change?

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2051716]For you to tip her 3,000 Baht, she must of really rocked your world. I guess it had something to do with a long period without getting any as well. She won't forget you anyways. My max tip for a massage girl has been 1,000 but you just topped me sir. I am a firm believer in tipping for good service and when a lady goes the extra mile for me, I will reward her.[/QUOTE]I think he may have mistakenly typed 3000 instead of 300 bhat. Since she gets 1500 max of the the 2300 he paid for the session, 3000 would mean that he tipped twice what she earned from the session, which is ridiculous. He could have just continued with another session with her and she would have been out of her mind with joy. If he actually did tip her 3000, he'd better never session with her again as she will be expecting the same 3000 bhat tip and unhappy if she doesn't get it.

[QUOTE=SearcherMan;2051608]So I passed by a bunch, and went down that first little alley-cul de sac and walked by Orient.[/QUOTE]Orient is definite a 1 shot place regardless of booked time then?

[QUOTE=TempStories;2051687]How as her service? Planing to take her.[/QUOTE]She is well trained by the owner.

You get all the standard services with a huge smile.

She can be talkative (but I like that and I am talkative too).

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2052086]She is well trained by the owner.

You get all the standard services with a huge smile.

She can be talkative (but I like that and I am talkative too).[/QUOTE]To Asslover945.

So you call this a new service with a smile is this a first time you got service with a huge smile, I don't like girl that talk too damn much I paid her to give me a good BBBJ not to talk.

Fast Eddie 48.

Thanks. Took her yesterday. Overall very satisfied.

Body. Curvy as you said. She has bit of tummy so doggy was best position to see her while fucking.

Ass. Big but tight. No complaint despite long anal.

BBBJ- 8/10.

Boobs- 7/10 (Natural but small).

Attitude- 10/10.

WIR. Not sure, there are enough girls in Bangkok to sample.

VFM- 10/10.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2052086]She is well trained by the owner.

You get all the standard services with a huge smile.

She can be talkative (but I like that and I am talkative too).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2052086]She is well trained by the owner.

You get all the standard services with a huge smile.

She can be talkative (but I like that and I am talkative too).[/QUOTE]How's the body? Any baby damage?

Prices at SW is inclusive of everything. There is no separate amount to be paid inside. I have been their regular customer for last several years and hearing this for the first time.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2051875]Visited Snow White a few days back for a session with Ninja (I feel and she intimated she's getting really jaded working her ass off) and was surprised to find the menu had only the massage fees listed. The deal with the girl was to be separately negotiated in the room. They know me as somewhat of a regular and that I prefer this option which they accede to but I do remember on previous visits being presented only with the all-inclusive menu. Has there been a change?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2051898]I think he may have mistakenly typed 3000 instead of 300 bhat. Since she gets 1500 max of the the 2300 he paid for the session, 3000 would mean that he tipped twice what she earned from the session, which is ridiculous. He could have just continued with another session with her and she would have been out of her mind with joy. If he actually did tip her 3000, he'd better never session with her again as she will be expecting the same 3000 bhat tip and unhappy if she doesn't get it.[/QUOTE]He typed 3 K so there was for sure no typo of 3000 meaning 300. 3K=3000 everywhere not 300.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2051875]Visited Snow White a few days back for a session with Ninja (I feel and she intimated she's getting really jaded working her ass off) and was surprised to find the menu had only the massage fees listed. The deal with the girl was to be separately negotiated in the room. They know me as somewhat of a regular and that I prefer this option which they accede to but I do remember on previous visits being presented only with the all-inclusive menu. Has there been a change?[/QUOTE]If you read the thread, you will see one guy insinuated he paid extra for A level and then changed his story to say he was offered different kind of massages such as oily amd son on. Ever since I have been going there p, it's always been all inclusive 1,900,2. 100,2,400. Strange. Maybe this is there way of getting more money from the cheap Charlie's.

[QUOTE=TempStories;2051689]She is one the best performers I have found in oilies in Singaore.[/QUOTE]You mean Thailand right?

[QUOTE=TempStories;2051689] No qualms despite more than 1 hour of anal. WIR for sure.[/QUOTE]She has probably strengthen her anal skills because half a year back I've met her twice and she started to complain after ten or fifteen minutes on both occasions.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2052376]You mean Thailand right?[/QUOTE]Yes, Thailand.

Just got done with 3 days Bangkok. Summary of my experience.

Day 1- Checked into hotel, visited my love in BKK. Ninja at SW. Fucked her ass for 90 min. FR in separate post. Came back and slept for 5 hrs. Went to Thermae bar in night. Realised that weekends are not good time for Indians. Too many options for girls there. Wanted a nubile but voluptuous looking girl. Finally found someone close to that. Took her to hotel and banged for ST. Paid 3 K bath but no BBBJ.

Day 2- Started with New at Cherry massage, Again fucked her big ass for 90 min. FR in separate post. Came back and watched movie. Went to Kiss Massage for Lingam massage. Got a cutie with full boobs from be&be massage (sister concern on same road). Fucked her 90 min but did not want to come. No A+ here. Went to Addict next and banged a youngish looking girl for 60 min (not A+ again). Finally came and slept peacefully in night.

Day 3- Went for repeat with Ninja. Very patient girl. Sucked me for 30 min, rimmed for 15 min, stayed in her ass for 45 min and finally came in her mouth. Came back to hotel, checked out, had food, good foot massage at Pai Bo. Went to Emmy at SW to end the day. She really tried to get me up. Took 1 HR of BJ and Rimming to get me up. Finally fucked her in her ass and came in her mouth+nose to end the trip. Totally satisfied. Hope that things stay the same at BKK till me next trip.

Went to club 102 yesterday evening.

Man. They have so many girls working. I selected this girl called cocktail. Nice name. She is quite tall. And had a good cleavage.

I chose Jacuzzi massage. The rooms are on the 3 floor. After a few beers it's very hard to climb those stairs. Cocktail doesn't speak much english. She filled up the bath and jumped in. Nice nipples and she washed me well. Gave me a BBBJ in the tub and the action continued in the bed. The aircon is really flacky. It's either too cold or too hot. I was shivering my bits off once I got out of the jacuzzi. She continued a lame massage. But I was not expecting her to remove those knots after a long flight. She continued the BBBJ and slipped on the condom. I asked her if she could deep throat me. She did mention that I was too big for her mouth. I was thinking to me self. Yeah right. She probably tells this to everyone. To massage that male ego. !. She tried. And did a good job. I could feel my member hit the back of her throat. When she took it out. She almost gagged. I thought she will throw up. Thank god. It would have surely ended my massage if she did. !. One she slipped on the rubbed she sat on me and was making those fake moaning it was a bit of a out off. She was reasonably tight and moist. I fucked her in doggy and asked her if I could finish on her belly and breasts. She agreed. And when I was ready to shoot. I whipped out the rubber and sprayer on her breasts. Man I enjoyed it.

More later. Watch this space.

G.

After last night I woke up at 1130. Missed the complimentary hotel breakfast. LOL.

I had Thai green curry and was keen on trying a soap massage. Headed to mitu which is on soi 33. It's near the Radisson Blu in sukhumvit. So I walked it with my Google maps on. The place is not sign posted and is very discrete.

I went in at about 1530 and there were about 6 girls working. I chose hima or something like it. For 3100 thb 75 minutes.

She did a great job. The rooms is much better than club 102. And they give you an energy drink before you start. Very thoughtful.

She first washed me. Focussing on my boner. She has quite small but natural breasts. And then guided me to the air matters. The nuru gel massage was amazing. For a second I thought I might do her bb as she was sliding too close for comfort. I am sure she knows what she was doing. I did her once on the mattress and came inside her. Well I mean in the rubber. We washed off and she showered me again and did a BBBJ and I was hard again. We moved to the bed and I did her in multiple positions. I wanted to finish with doggy and on her bum. I ripped the rubber and jerked myself on her bum. I was exhausted. And she showered me again. I was clean and refreshed. When I walked down to the reception they even gave me an ice cream to take out. Nice service. Ooh. The fare of 3100 includes a beer as well.

I am sure I will want to go back there again. But there are too many similar places that I want to visit.

So long and tc.

G.

[QUOTE=Gunners1;2053131]Went to club 102 yesterday evening.

.[/QUOTE]Sounds nice. What was the damage? I. e. How many baht spent?

I think I paid 2. 5 k plus 250 for room.

G.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2053310]Sounds nice. What was the damage? I. e. How many baht spent?[/QUOTE]

Damn you guys must've worn Ninja out! I tried to book her today, but she's off. I'm leaving BKK tomorrow! T_T.

Today was looking for some quick daytime action and went into Som's heaven. There were about 15 ladies sitting out front with 5 doable in my books. I chose a very petite 25 year old from Loei named La. She's very fresh with only 2 months in the business so go see her while she's not jaded. Cute face and killer spinner body with not an ounce of baby damage. I must tell you that out of all girls there, she is the best. Only about 4'8 inches tall. Wonderful view in cowgirl and a very good GFE. I finished in doggy with a wonderful view of her ass. One of the best I've seen on a BJ bar girl. Damage was 1,700 for 1 hour in the VIP room.

[QUOTE=Voyager1;2051211]I am not sure what to do at this point when the service provider clearly prefers CBJ and is probably uncomfortable with the BBBJ. [/QUOTE]Why not just send her back downstairs to fetch a (new) girl who can do what you like?

I know some people may be worried they'll hurt the girls feelings, but she's not your GF and you're paying for it.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1860057]I was taking a walk around Soi 22 when I stumbled upon this place.

It does have a very Hot Sauna, hot tub, a a cold plunge pool, also a Swimming pool, a small gym.

200 THB is for the use of the facilities above. 300 THB for massage and the use of the room, you pick the girls from the ones sitting around.

1000 THB or BHT is for FS if the girl is to your liking, no need to negotiate.

The whole package including iced teas, big plates of fresh fruit and other Thai drinks comes to 1500. You can also order other Hot Thai food at 60 THB per serving.

No stunner there but good enough and very doable. The Mamasan will show you on her Phone if you ask her, much better looking girls and younger at a higher price..[/QUOTE]Had a short stopover in BKK back in early March and didn't have much time to look around. Headed back there for a cheap and cheerful session and picked one OK curvy 30 something MILF for the massage and Fuck. The session is actually 700 to her and I tipped her an extra 300.

Very good investment it turned out to be as she showed me on her phone, Photos of really young pretty things who will do outcall to my place ST for 2500. Most probably through an agency they would cost a lot more.

Told her straight, if girls turn out to be bait and switch or fake photos, I will send them away with no taxi money. Tried 2 girls from her phone and was very pleasantly surprised. Very good deal.

The cashier, Mamasan will also show you her collection of girls for outtcall once she recognizes your face on a return visit to the sauna.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2052098]To Asslover945.

So you call this a new service with a smile is this a first time you got service with a huge smile, I don't like girl that talk too damn much I paid her to give me a good BBBJ not to talk.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie, Preferences among mongers vary. When I book a lady for 1. 5 or 2 hours, I don't need 2 straight hours of continuous action. I am sure you are young and energetic and can perform like pornstar and get all the BBBJ you may want.

As for me, I prefer to go slow and enjoy the session and talking with a girl helps get a connect and hence better service next time. YMMV.

So just enjoy.

When I said "Service with a smile", I meant her personality is not cold and makes you feel welcome.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2052098]To Asslover945.

So you call this a new service with a smile is this a first time you got service with a huge smile, I don't like girl that talk too damn much I paid her to give me a good BBBJ not to talk.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]The trick is to overcome your mental barriers and limitations in P4P type of situations.

I think it can be hot to grab the lady's tit and find her nipple on it, while she is talking with you about this and that. And reaching for her slit, finding her clit, and fingering it is something you can do too.

You wouldn't do this kind of thing in public or even in private with an iffy kind of girlfriend. But most P4P ladies are pretty good about this kind of thing in the private room, especially when you pay, before you play.

I think it's a lot hotter and better to get the lady in the mood to do you good, rather than just tell her to give you a good BBBJ. Because when the lady isn't yet in the mood for it, then it's just mechanical action for her. You might as well do it with a robotic doll, rather than with a real lady.

The whole point of being with a real lady is that you can get her in the mood and get her to enjoy it with you in a mutual kind of way. This is one thing you can't get with a mindless doll. But everything else you can.

I was once staying with a Thai lady in my hotel room. She was talking with me about this and that. It wasn't sexual kind of talk. But she mentioned something about her sex work and her concern that some guy might put her out of commission by banging her too hard and too long.

I don't think she meant to arouse me. But I got aroused anyway. So, I plunged my hand inside her panties, found her clit, and masturbated it. She immediately got a clitoral erection. I could feel it with my finger.

This lady's clit got big, before she fully realized what was going on. She wasn't expecting this at all. She looked a little strangely at me, while I kept stroking her now erect clit with my finger. Then she got up, took off her panties, got into the doggy position in front of me, and motioned to me to take her like that from behind. Which I gladly did. And by this time, I was so hot for her that I didn't last with her.

We went from talking to me banging her in about 3 minutes. Which shows that there is nothing bad in talking about this and that with a P4P lady in the private room.

[QUOTE=Applesauce;2051988]Orient is definite a 1 shot place regardless of booked time then?[/QUOTE]I got the distinct impression it was multiple shots. I was good for the one, given the long foreplay was dazzlingly exciting. I mean damn, I was starved for this. Years of raising my baby, living like a celibate monk, sublimating all into the joys of child rearing, that made me get jumped into oblivion.

And thanks to you Bkkdog, I will limit my tipping in the future. I will not repeat with the same women at the same place. We're connected on LINE, so maybe an off the books arrangement will be made. My previous MP experiences had always been in the states, and were always ok, or bad, never like at the Orient.

I've been by the Mekong the past week with family, so can't report about anything there. I will return to BKK July 8 for 5 nights and will report back more. In the meantime I'm in Pattaya and will post my first day's experience on that site. Spoiler alert, crackdown, what crackdown?

Did anybody got to try B&B Massage at Soi 25? I went to Snow White for Ninja, but she was off that that;.

Went around the block into 25th and saw be&be massage with really hot girls lined up! But I was determined to do a girl in ass.

Yes I'm still kicking myself.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2054398]The trick is to overcome your mental barriers and limitations in P4P type of situations.

I think it's a lot hotter and better to get the lady in the mood to do you good, rather than just tell her to give you a good BBBJ. Because when the lady isn't yet in the mood for it, then it's just mechanical action for her. You might as well do it with a robotic doll, rather than with a real lady.

The whole point of being with a real lady is that you can get her in the mood and get her to enjoy it with you in a mutual kind of way. This is one thing you can't get with a mindless doll. But everything else you can.[/QUOTE]I understand that some guys feel the need to simulate the real thing, including a boost to the ole ego but at the end of the day, they are professional service providers. Any lady who needs a guy to get them in a believable 'mood' is just not a good provider. This is what you're paying for after all so if you're dropping 3000+ on a ST session (all fees included) and you're getting a robot then you're not getting your money's worth plain and simple. DATY, fingering, DFK, etc. Is generally for your pleasure, many don't get the same feeling from kissing that you think they do because to them it doesn't have any sort of emotional meaning. And unless you're a certified DATY expert, you're probably not doing them too many favors, you're just prolonging an overall experience that many would just prefer to be over and done with as soon as possible.

Of course, this doesn't mean that all of them do not like a bit of foreplay and such but typically I find that the ones that do will let you know, you won't have to go exploring for it.

Heavy rain, the streets are flooded, I try to navigate through the crowds with my unbrella. I have already tried out lots of oily massages and BJ bars in Bangkok over the years, and the gogos I now only go to for drinking and watching. So I want to try something new away from touristy Bangkok, and catch the metro up to Ratcha. First I try Ocean (Colonze2) Very few girls available. (Tuesday at 7 pm.) Then I head to Merci, lots of girls. A very pretty one gets my attention and she smiles too! So I ask for here. The presenter goes to the reception and comes back: she is already booked. Strange, why is she sitting there then? I tell them I will come back later. But probably I should have chosen one of the others, but I couldn't make up my mind to decide as none of the stood out. The prices are tiered, from 2200 to 3500 or something like that, I don't remember exactly.

That's the only two places I have written on my list so now I'm not sure where to go. So I just walk up the street. Emmanuelle is near. I enter and here there are even more girls here. They are prettier and younger compared to the oily massages on Sukhumvit. BUT, that's on average. And the prices are very much tiered, from 2700 to more than 4000. And the pretty ones are all more than 4000. I came to here to find a beatiful girl so I don't want any of the mediocre ones, and 4000 is just to much for st I think.

So I hit the street again and after a short distance I enter Hi Class. Finally I find a somewhat pretty one for 3000 so I decide to go with her. When she rise up I notice that her boobs are enhanced, but I think that's ok. And she looks sexy with a nice curved body in a blue dress. Pinky, 27 from nearby Bangkok, she is friendly. I pay upfront (and 20 in tip to the presenter) and off we go. In the room a female attendent comes in with a soft drink, 40 upfront. She asks for a tip, I give her 10 and her face goes sour. We undress and Pinky gives a mediocre massage. Then it's bathing time, that's better! Now her big boobs comes to use as it's easy to tit-fuck her in the tub. Finally we move to the bed. She don't kiss and wants to put on the rubber at once, I ask her for a BBBJ, but she does that only for a few seconds before putting on the rubber. Quickly we procede to FS, first cowgirl, but then she's already tired and wants me to take the "power". I continue in mish, and in the end I come doing doggystyle. She is a bit tight, but not that much (might as well be good as there's no complaining).

That's all. We head downstairs and I pick up my umbrella and I hit the street. The experience was a bit lousy. And not worth the price, but now I have also tried this kind of place. The idea for some must be the experience of being "bathed" by a pretty women. But if go to a soapy again I must beforehand do some planning. A question to you experience guys, is it possible to find a beautiful girl for less than 3200 ? Where and when?

End of story, I leave Tai-land and catch the metro back to farang-land.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2056068]
That's all. We head downstairs and I pick up my umbrella and I hit the street. The experience was a bit lousy. And not worth the price, but now I have also tried this kind of place. The idea for some must be the experience of being "bathed" by a pretty women. But if go to a soapy again I must beforehand do some planning.

A question to you experience guys, is it possible to find a beautiful girl for less than 3200 ? Where and when?[/QUOTE]John T,

The answer to your last question is Yes, but you will have to spend your time and hard earned money finding one. In other words your desore to have "great time with a hot, sexy soapy girl" success rate might be quite low. Say 5 out 10 times you will be really satisfied, like you shouild be, at this price point as your report at Hi Class seems to indicate.

The only soapy I know where I have had consistently GREAT service no matter who I was with is the Lord. But the Lord price is high. So, I ask you, theoretically speaking, what would you rather do; spend two more nights like the one you reported on in the hope of finding a hot, sexy girl who does you right and spend around 9000 baht total in the search, or spend 5000 bt or 6000 bt for sex crazed girl who is going to make passionate love to your dick with her mouth 3 times during the session, lick your ass, DFK like there is no tomorrow, and end up shagging you like you are, for lack of a better word, a Lord? For me the answer to that question is a given. For example, on my last trip, I averaged a visit to the Lord once every week for the 5 weeks I was in BKK. I would have spent more time at the Lord, but it's kind of like eating at a fine dining Michelin 3 star restaurant. You can't do it every night. It's too much. Yet every Lord girl I was with was a little different, but each one gave me a memorable session. I always left that place feeling good / really good, so it was definitely worth the price as far as I am concerned.

In sharp contrast, I also paid a visit to an old favorite soapy of mine called La Belle. In the past, I have had some truly great sessions in La Belle with some real foxes. This time I took a very attractive girl upstairs for around 3200 bt or 3800 bt, I forget. But the session was barely acceptable and I remembered why La Belle is no longer my favorite place and the Lord is. So, my very attractive La Belle girl possessed a very pretty face and a smokin' hot body. As far as looks are concerned she was as pretty or more so than my Lord girls. The session started out slow as we waited for the tub to fill as contrasted to ALL my Lord sessions where the girl is immediately taking off my pants and blowing me as soon as the door closes while the tub fills. Anyway, the La Belle girl was very good in the tub, but the list of her no's began to mount as the session progressed: first there was no tongue, then no DATY (a real give away because if a soapy girl does not want you to go down on her something is wrong either with her pussy or she does not want to get turned on), then while we were engaged in sexual congress, she kept instituting abrupt changes in positions every 10 minutes of so in a vain effort to make me cum faster. Actually, the juxtapositons had the opposite effect. And then her final no was, no pictures, but by then I had had enough of her and she got a no from me, ha ha; no tip.

So, I just write this post to let you know there is at least one great soapy still in town with great girls. Yes, I have had great times in La Belle and other soapies around town and I am pretty sure that if I went to La Belle a few more times this last trip, I would have eventually hooked up with the right girl and had some more really good times, but I hate those mediocre sessions at any price. I think they are a big waste of my time and money. After a so so session I feel let down, not only by the girl, but also by the parlor for not doing its job which is to not only to have an ample supply of hotties in the fishbowl, but also to maintain a high, consistent standard of service.

Again, the only place in BKK recently where I have experienced great service consistently overtime with every girl I take, is the Lord. The Lord charges 5,6,7 thousand baht depending on the girl's category. I leave it up to you to decide which is the better deal; a 50/50 shot for 3000 bt or a 98% shot for 5000 bt or 6000 bt.

Where exactly is Lord located?

The answer to your last question is Yes, but you will have to spend your time and hard earned money finding one. In other words your desore to have "great time with a hot, sexy soapy girl" success rate might be quite low. Say 5 out 10 times you will be really satisfied, like you shouild be, at this price point as your report at Hi Class seems to indicate.

The only soapy I know where I have had consistently GREAT service no matter who I was with is the Lord. But the Lord price is high. So, I ask you, theoretically speaking, what would you rather do; spend two more nights like the one you reported on in the hope of finding a hot, sexy girl who does you right and spend around 9000 baht total in the search, or spend 5000 bt or 6000 bt for sex crazed girl who is going to make passionate love to your dick with her mouth 3 times during the session, lick your ass, DFK like there is no tomorrow, and end up shagging you like you are, for lack of a better word, a Lord? For me the answer to that question is a given. For example, on my last trip, I averaged a visit.

[QUOTE=Playboy2001;2056215]
The only soapy I know where I have had consistently GREAT service no matter who I was with is the Lord... 5000 bt or 6000 bt for sex crazed girl who is going to make passionate love to your dick with her mouth 3 times during the session, lick your ass, DFK like there is no tomorrow, and end up shagging you like you are, for lack of a better word, a Lord? For me the answer to that question is a given. For example, on my last trip, I averaged a visit.[/QUOTE]

Is the service at The Lord really so great? I haven't heard other reports saying that, most that I hear is service is solid but rather run of the mill. Do they even match Tulip (which is 1/3 of the price), routinely offering anal, deep throat BJs and multiple pops?

Long, long time lurker and first time poster with a question. Yes, I know that is not approved of but please be gentle with me as I am closer to 80 than 70. Visited Bangkok many times and have experienced most options. Now that I am almost past it all I am capable of getting is a HJ. In recent years have been to many oilies and paid Bt 300 - 400 and tipped the girl another Bt 500 - 600. Most seem to be happy with that. In past have been going to Hanna Massage, is it Soi 20? The business model in play there asks for Bt 900 or 1000 all up. What I would like to know is how much of this goes to the girl and am I expected to offer a little more for good service?

Thanks for the input.

Yes I do prefer quantity over quality, so going for high price options like Lord might be a good idea. Better with one good experiences than two mediocre ones. For the price you qoute for Lord, the looks of the girl should also be good (not only the service), but I guess that's the case?

Also it's easier and more relaxing going to a place where good looks and service are more garanteered. Still, sometimes I find it exiting to invesitigate other options as well. Yes it takes more time and work, but depending on my mood I sometimes find that an interesting challenge.

Just want to know my options in Bkk-soapy, I will investigate further using the places suggested in this forum as a guide. I would appreciate some advice about when is the best time to go.

I hit up the 3 massage parlors on Sukhumvit 33 around 3 pm, and they seemed either not to be ready or not full. The choices were not much to look at (5-6). I picked a 7 named DIA from Love Teen with barely a size A cup. AA? Anyway, she was good. Anyway, that's not my point.

3 years ago, in the same place, same time, I found more than 8 girls around there who were really cute (7-9), and I regretted that I only had 2 of them. It seems the quality has gone down since then.

And the traffic has gotten worse.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2056268]Is the service at The Lord really so great? I haven't heard other reports saying that, most that I hear is service is solid but rather run of the mill. Do they even match Tulip (which is 1/3 of the price), routinely offering anal, deep throat BJs and multiple pops?[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I think the service at the Lord is really good, meaning way above average soapy sex, and like I posted; I have come to expect a very consistent, high level of quality service from most of the girls. Comparing the Lord to Tulip is kind of like comparing a Maserati to a Ford Mustang V8 which are both pretty fast cars, so they have that in common. With the Lord, everything is upscale; the rooms, the girls, and the white glove service they perform. Its hard to describe, maybe read one of my trip reports to get a better idea, but I think Lord girl sex is more refined and the girls possess more finesse, if not more sexual expertise than Tulip girls. If I were looking to make a close comparison, it would be comparing the Lord to a couple of high class Macau Saunas like Rio Sauna. The Chinese Rio girls are hotter looking IMHO and they perform a few more things like cat licking one's entire body including the souls of your feet and they perform the famous fire & ice BJ's. Other than that both places provide very similar private sessions.

Tulip is almost the exact opposite of the Lord in most ways like quality of the rooms, the decor, and with the Tulip girls being far less attractive and rawer, let's get it on type porn star girls. There is no doubt that some, I say some of the Tulip girls know what they are doing for sure and like doing it. So, the thing both places have in common is that you can have a pretty wild good time in either one and its a different kind of sex than the basic boy girl love sex usually experienced with Go Go girls and FL's. Don't get me wrong, I like that basic boy girl sex I have with my favorite Go Go girls where enthusiasm and passion make or break the session, but I don't expect too much from my Go Go girls other than good looks, DFK, a fairly decent BBBJ, DATY, a couple of different positions in intercourse, a little GFE and of course that passion thing.

I would say this, if multiple shots anal is what you are after at a very competitive price and you are not too demanding about looks, then Tulip is your kind of place. I prefer vaginal sex with pretty girls who have great technique which enables them to deliver a kind of sexual service above and beyond that which I just described as Go Go girl basic boy girl love sex. Then throw in some passion from the girls as well and I hope you now understand why I like the Lord and why I pay up to go there about once a week when I am in town. In short, I like the place and I like the girls.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2056268]Is the service at The Lord really so great? Do they even match Tulip (which is 1/3 of the price), routinely offering anal, deep throat BJs and multiple pops?[/QUOTE]1. No anal.

2. Deep throat BJ's - Yes and for me, far more important, is they know how to give a BJ, so they can bring you up to the line of orgasm, but not over it, and bring you back to the line again and again. Macau girls know this technique as well. Go Go girls and most other massage girls don't have a clue.

3. Multiple pops - No unless you want to tip extra, extra. But most of my Lord sessions run into overtime with only 1 shot, so I don't feel I am missing anything. A customer can always extend the session, making it a 2 shot double session if he so chooses, but that's going to cost you. Most times I would rather relax for a couple hours, go have dinner, and then find a Go Go girl or FL for my 2nd round. So I have never done a double session at the Lord, but I have at Rio in Macau and Hotel Alexis in Jakarta. All I can say is they were both amazing girls!

Actually I'm in Thailand for a non-mongering trip, but had some time for some relaxing massage on a Saturday night.

Arrived at about 9 pm at Snow White when 6 to 8 girls were available. While there was no obvious choice and no really sexy / stunning girls, I followed my simple rule of taking the girl with the biggest smile.

Girl: Shirley or Cherry (difficult to understand).

Age: late 20's / early 30's.

Home: Surin.

Place: Snow White.

Price: 1. 900 b for 1 HR.

Shots: 1, but probably more if you can manage.

Body: ok face with a nice smile, meaty / big body but not really fat, thick thighs, 160 cm tall, shoulderlong brown hair, hanging be cup, nice round ass, some bigger belly, slightly baby damage.

Room: standard room at Snow White which fitted the purpose.

Sex: Excellent / outstanding.

Massage: no massage, just went straight up for fucking.

Other: DFK, DT, anal.

What Shirley lacks on physical appearances she definately makes it up with her attitude and her performance. Her face rates for me average at best and her body probably is even below average.

But once in the room Shirley swung into high gear and started DT even before entering the shower. Great sucking and good kissing. Once back on the bed Shirley revealed to me that she likes to get fucked in the ass. So who I am not to obey and pounded her ass in many positions. Shirley took everything like a pro, always with a smile on her face. After some great fucking she finally kneeled down in front of me and got a cum shot right on her face.

That's what I call a true porn star experience.

I understand that a lot of guys will stay away from her because of her underwhelming looks. That's ok, so you don't have to complain.

But those guys like me who prefer performance over looks can't go wrong with Shirley.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2056551]
3. Multiple pops - No unless you want to tip extra, extra. But most of my Lord sessions run into overtime with only 1 shot, so I don't feel I am missing anything. A customer can always extend the session, making it a 2 shot double session if he so chooses, but that's going to cost you.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for elaborating on The Lord service. Seems like it might be worthwhile for the small minority of punters who only want one shot and can extend it over a considerable length of time.

For me, having to pay 5 k-10 k baht for one pop, and then have to actually negotiate for the second one is a deal breaker, no matter how good that one pop might be. Given that an average sex act takes 7 min, but 40% of them are completed in 2 min or so, it might not be worthwhile for most people (for the sex, posh surroundings are what some will pay for).

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2056653]Thank you for elaborating on The Lord service. Seems like it might be worthwhile for the small minority of punters who only want one shot and can extend it over a considerable length of time.

For me, having to pay 5 k-10 k baht for one pop, and then have to actually negotiate for the second one is a deal breaker, no matter how good that one pop might be. Given that an average sex act takes 7 min, but 40% of them are completed in 2 min or so, it might not be worthwhile for most people (for the sex, posh surroundings are what some will pay for).[/QUOTE]Agreed. Would not pay that unless she was a superstar in looks and performance. Skill set of the best looking Tulip gal and model quality looks. Multiple shots would have to be on the table as well. I just don't see the value for money in this. For some, I guess there is. For me 200 plus USD buys a lot of other things.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2056530]For what it's worth, I think the service at the Lord is really good, meaning way above average soapy sex, and like I posted; I have come to expect a very consistent, high level of quality service from most of the girls. Comparing the Lord to Tulip is kind of like comparing a Maserati to a Ford Mustang V8 which are both pretty fast cars, so they have that in common. With the Lord, everything is upscale; the rooms, the girls, and the white glove service they perform. Its hard to describe, maybe read one of my trip reports to get a better idea, but I think Lord girl sex is more refined and the girls possess more finesse, if not more sexual expertise than Tulip girls. If I were looking to make a close comparison, it would be comparing the Lord to a couple of high class Macau Saunas like Rio Sauna. The Chinese Rio girls are hotter looking IMHO and they perform a few more things like cat licking one's entire body including the souls of your feet and they perform the famous fire & ice BJ's. Other than that both places provide very similar private sessions.

Tulip is almost the exact opposite of the Lord in most ways like quality of the rooms, the decor, and with the Tulip girls being far less attractive and rawer, let's get it on type porn star girls. There is no doubt that some, I say some of the Tulip girls know what they are doing for sure and like doing it. So, the thing both places have in common is that you can have a pretty wild good time in either one and its a different kind of sex than the basic boy girl love sex usually experienced with Go Go girls and FL's. Don't get me wrong, I like that basic boy girl sex I have with my favorite Go Go girls where enthusiasm and passion make or break the session, but I don't expect too much from my Go Go girls other than good looks, DFK, a fairly decent BBBJ, DATY, a couple of different positions in intercourse, a little GFE and of course that passion thing.

I would say this, if multiple shots anal is what you are after at a very competitive price and you are not too demanding about looks, then Tulip is your kind of place. I prefer vaginal sex with pretty girls who have great technique which enables them to deliver a kind of sexual service above and beyond that which I just described as Go Go girl basic boy girl love sex. Then throw in some passion from the girls as well and I hope you now understand why I like the Lord and why I pay up to go there about once a week when I am in town. In short, I like the place and I like the girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing NB. Quality information posted by a Senior reporter is what I want to read. I have visited Lords a couple of times and passed because of the price, and also simply because I did not know until now the girls really do the deed well. I will give them a try.

[quote]I don't expect too much from my Go Go girls other than good looks, DFK, a fairly decent BBBJ, DATY, a couple of different positions in intercourse, a little GFE and of course that passion thing.[/quote]That's not expecting much, really, Jeez I would settle for any 5 and consider it a good session not great but good.

[QUOTE=RalphKramden;2056897]Thanks for sharing NB. Quality information posted by a Senior reporter is what I want to read. I have visited Lords a couple of times and passed because of the price, and also simply because I did not know until now the girls really do the deed well. I will give them a try.[/QUOTE]I tried it once and the Service level did not satisfy me. Wasted my money. Was pretty hard to find a girl sufficiently stunning to warrant paying 5 or 6 K. Of course my taste is biased by hating tit and nose jobs (I don't pay high money for that). I got all natural white skinned girl (co-incidence) but service was very ordinary and not to GFE level. Mind you I have been dissatisfied by service at most Soapies in recent years, including Nataree. I have got lucky occasionally, like last Evita visit. Girl was pretty, very good GFE, and quite cheap as well.

Roll the Dice! YMMV. Depends on the girl and the customer. The Lord has some super stunners, but still few to my difficult specs. Stunners tend to be busy unless can sit and wait for a long while. I would prefer a girl a lot of fun, and just moderately pretty natural model type. I also prefer environment where can chat to the girl for quite some time before deciding. So bars work better for me. Worth a look in the Lord more than once to see what the standard is to your taste. However you are not going to get a Tulip like service, and even GFE is not guaranteed. I could try The Lord again, but will remain extremely fussy with my choice.

It's very good value, way better value than going to a gogo bar / suhkumvit hooker. Those oilly / gogo on suhkumvit girls are a little too on the low-so side, and always very poorly educated. And their price is just too high in the gogos (tourist traps), and with regards to looks, most of the decent looking ones have left the oilly scene with no attractive replacements (going to Korea, or who knows).

I think soapies are the best value, because the price and quality point. No marked-up tourist prices (minus the falang surcharge, which isn't that much compared to suhkumwit prices). And wayyy better talent than the country / fat girls who work on sukhumvit area.

Went to the Lord 2 weeks ago with a Thai friend. Booked a huge suite room, but moved onto private room after chatting with the girls. They were quite nice, educated. Mine was rather funny actually, and dressed very well, looked like a model of course. It's possible to exchange LINE with them easily and work out a system where you see them at the shop and later outside the shop as well, if they are up for that arrangement (they like you, how long it takes to get to your place, how much you pay, etc). I had a really, really attractive girl from the Lord get my email and asked to hang out with me last year (but I couldn't since I had a GF at the time). I'm currently have a girl 3600 baht S model from a different soapy come over to my place about twice a week. And that obviously is way cheaper than what I pay at the soapy, since they take a fair cut.

So, I cannot find quality at the tourist places anymore, not for awhile. Especially nothing new (exciting). I think going where the locals frequent is always going to get the best service / product-quality, and this isn't just true for sex. Same applies to food, a decent massage, haircut, the list goes on.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2057207]I tried it once and the Service level did not satisfy me. Wasted my money. Was pretty hard to find a girl sufficiently stunning to warrant paying 5 or 6 K. Of course my taste is biased by hating tit and nose jobs (I don't pay high money for that). I got all natural white skinned girl (co-incidence) but service was very ordinary and not to GFE level. Mind you I have been dissatisfied by service at most Soapies in recent years, including Nataree. I have got lucky occasionally, like last Evita visit. Girl was pretty, very good GFE, and quite cheap as well.

Roll the Dice! YMMV. Depends on the girl and the customer. The Lord has some super stunners, but still few to my difficult specs. Stunners tend to be busy unless can sit and wait for a long while. I would prefer a girl a lot of fun, and just moderately pretty natural model type. I also prefer environment where can chat to the girl for quite some time before deciding. So bars work better for me. Worth a look in the Lord more than once to see what the standard is to your taste. However you are not going to get a Tulip like service, and even GFE is not guaranteed. I could try The Lord again, but will remain extremely fussy with my choice.[/QUOTE]The girl I saw at The Lord 2 weeks ago had no plastic surgeries. Just a really round butt and very real see cup tits, quite full titted, especially for a Thai girl. She had a falang BF for 1 year so she could speak perfectly normal English, and didn't conform to the plastic surgery clinic culture that most Thai girls do. I think you have to walk around the model area more, in my experience. I'm kind of shy and sometimes wouldn't really scope out the entire line-up. The better looking girls are behind the couch and also sitting in the chairs (mine was sitting in one of the chairs). I would suggest getting up close, but yes most of the girls there are not good looking because of the plastic surgery. They mostly all look so same-same, conforming to that stupid look. But a few natural girls are present.

In general, all of my best Ratachada soapy trips involve being horny and picky. Horny meaning that I'm eager, but picky in that I have patience. I am walking in and out of 2-3 shops, looking for the perfect choice.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2057627]I think soapies are the best value, because the price and quality point. No marked-up tourist prices (minus the falang surcharge, which isn't that much compared to suhkumwit prices). And wayyy better talent than the country / fat girls who work on sukhumvit area.
[/QUOTE]There is no doubt that free lancers on the street are the best value, if you can find a good one. 2nd best is budget soapies, then oilies, the Thermae, then bargirls, etc. The Lord is way down the list for value, and probably comes even after Smooci escorts. The top girl prices in Lord are really high with farang Surcharge added. You aren't going to get a pornstar. Could possibly get a bargirl for the whole night for same price or less.

What do I need a highly educated Hi-so dick scared potentially surgeries hooker for? Okay I exaggerate. I would take one if she was good enough value for money. Spent a lot of time surveying the entire Lord line up more than once but was hard to find the perfect girl, especially not in the lower price brackets.

Looks like I need to check out Lord if talent beats top thermae girls. What's the best time of day to see the biggest lineup and not so packed with guys.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2058489]Looks like I need to check out Lord. What's the best time of day to see the biggest lineup and not so packed with guys.[/QUOTE]I'm not a huge fan of Lord. I get the appeal. The girls there are all model types (mostly car show models) - tall, busty, light skinned, with tons of makeup. But they all feel too "professional" for me. I guess I prefer the girl-next-door type. The prices are also quite steep. I checked out The Lord over this past weekend around late afternoon, but due to the holiday, the selection was limited, only had about 10 girls total. There will probably be more now that the holiday is over. I think the best time to go to soapies is 4 or 5 pm: that sweet spot when most of the girls have arrived to work, but most of their clients haven't gotten off work yet.

I inadvertently added my MP scouting with FL observations in the BKK general thread. My second scouting of the MP's, since my return to BKK from Pattaya, is the same. Both days were holidays. I scouted mid to late afternoon. I was sated by 6 days of sex every night. I had a GFE who spoiled me. The MP line ups were of heavily made up faces and not all to my beauty standards. The woman I got at the Orient before I went to Pattaya was too busy to respond. She was exceptional, and her being my first BKK MP encounter ever, was lucky.

Given my subsequent lack of finding a suitable woman at an MP of late, I am a converted fan of oilies now. Next trip I'll be solo more with more time to peruse.

Hey guys,

I am traveling to Bangkok tomorrow on a work trip, but have a day or so free in the middle.

I am looking for mongering, but one thing I am desperate for is a kick ass massage. Does anyone know of any place which offers a great massage and then some extras on the side? Or a massage first and then all the way followed by that?

Please help a fellow out and I'll be sure to write a report of other places that I visit during the trip.

Thanks!

I read quite some time ago about some ball massage, so I did some search in the page. I found Hana massage and Rin as the master of place.

So I went to google maps and showed Hana massage in SKV Soi 63. The website of Hana massage was updated in 2006. But it said SKV Soi 22. I sent an email to the e-mail on the website to reserve Rin (If she still was there) but bounced. It was time to make a decision between google or a massage parlour that does not update the info. So I went with option 2.

Following a very old map that refers to a hotel that is closed I passed the Marriott on Soi 22 and then in the 3rd small Soi, I saw the sign I was looking for. Hana massage, still open. And once I went in, Rin was also there. Lucky day, it must be because the alcohol was forbidden.

I went to the room and took a shower. Rin walked in and did not take her clothes off. Started to give a fairly ok massage all over the place, until it got to the balls! It surely was something different that I had experienced so far, in a good way.

Damage was 1,500 RMB for 2 hours (I gave some small tip). WIR: Probably not anytime soon, many things to try. But if you are in a 'lazy day" and you want to try something a bit different and you do not mind the looks and care only about service it could be a choice for you. I would not take the 2 hours session, probably with one you will get all you need to experience (just less normal massage).

[QUOTE=IndoScot;2058602]Hey guys,

I am traveling to Bangkok tomorrow on a work trip, but have a day or so free in the middle.

I am looking for mongering, but one thing I am desperate for is a kick ass massage. Does anyone know of any place which offers a great massage and then some extras on the side? Or a massage first and then all the way followed by that?

Please help a fellow out and I'll be sure to write a report of other places that I visit during the trip.

Thanks![/QUOTE]For a true kick ass massage, go to the no sex what Po school on Soi 39. Ask for #73 and get an mind blowing 2 hour traditional Thai massage. Then walk 2-3 blocks, go over Sukhumvit through the Phrom Phong BTS Station, to Soi 24 and feast on the MP lineups in the alleys there.

Failing to find anything worth the money or time at Thermae and Level, I decided make a dash back to The Lord before last call at midnight. I arrived at 11:40 pm. The prior day I visited at 8:00 pm which seemed to be prime time with about 75 girls. Well, this was the opposite. There were a total of only 4 girls. Fortunately, there was one spinner who looked pretty good and she was smiling at me. Her number was R37.

Walking back to the room I was again amazed at how corny the thecor of the place is. The corridors are lined with huge 20-foot-long Ruben-style painting of half-naked women in bath scenes. It was something you'the expect if / when Trump did a brothel.

Given the very limited choices I'the prepared myself for a less than perfect body, but R37 surprisingly hit all my normal requirements: young (21), no fake tits, and no babies. Actually a very toned and slim body with her small A-Cups being the only space for improvement in appearances.

The normal jacuzzi bath was very pleasant and I just let her do her thing, go through her routine. Her training was good she said she worked there 5 months. Especially enjoyed the part where the girl sits with your legs spread and resting on her thighs as she massages and strokes and teases the cock and balls before beginning a very professional blowjob. Very relaxing.

Showered the soap off and then on to the bed for the cat bath and then another excellent blow job using some KY to enhance the handjob of the shaft and balls while she thrust the rest toward her throat. Eventually put on the raincoat, moved to missionary and fucked. She was very tight almost too tight, which surprised me considering the time of the night and how long she'the worked there. A few of the normal positions and then finished.

Face: 8/10.
Body: 8/10 (if small tits are ok).
Service: 9/10.
Attitude: 8/10.
Damage: 4800 + 500 tip.
WIR: nope

Summary: like a lot of massage places, the totally professional and somewhat mechanical service didn't really inspire me. All I could think was that she does this exact same routine with every guy it's just her job. I much prefer unscripted sessions with girls where I control the pace and the activities and the girl is surprised and therefore more emotionally engaged. As with so many MPs R37 plays out her normal routine and any deviation is discouraged. But, if you like being "serviced" in a well-practiced and proven way, The Lord ladies seem to deliver and in surroundings which are clean and pleasant, albeit all at a fairly steep price by Asian standards.

~ Steel

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2058489]Looks like I need to check out Lord if talent beats top thermae girls. What's the best time of day to see the biggest lineup and not so packed with guys.[/QUOTE]I'd say 7:00 pm is good, maybe 6:00 pm.

So I was in BKK last year and I went to Dream Heaven Massage around September.

There was this adorable young lady named Ammy that was working at Dream Heaven Massage Soi 26. Apparently she's no longer there and I can't find her at all.

I had 2 sessions with her and she was one of the prettiest, down to earth girls I've ever met. The Ammy that's advertised on their site right now is not the same Ammy. The Ammy I know is 20 (21 now), about 5'2 black hair (I know, great description right?

I was just hoping that someone would remember her and know if she's still doing this or left this business. She was the very definition of a spinner and I had her number but no longer. I don't even have her picture on my phone anymore.

[QUOTE=HentaiBaka88;2058681]So I was in BKK last year and I went to Dream Heaven Massage around September.

There was this adorable young lady named Ammy that was working at Dream Heaven Massage Soi 26. Apparently she's no longer there and I can't find her at all.

I had 2 sessions with her and she was one of the prettiest, down to earth girls I've ever met. The Ammy that's advertised on their site right now is not the same Ammy. The Ammy I know is 20 (21 now), about 5'2 black hair (I know, great description right?

I was just hoping that someone would remember her and know if she's still doing this or left this business. She was the very definition of a spinner and I had her number but no longer. I don't even have her picture on my phone anymore.[/QUOTE]You might find it hard to believe, but many Thai ladies get involved in the P4P business partly because they want to find a western guy for a permanent relationship. And if the lady is as good-looking and as good with guys in bed, as this lady was with you, then she won't have any trouble finding a permanent guy for herself.

I know this because I've stayed in a Thai village in Isaan for some time with a Thai lady. She had many female friends there, and through her I knew a young, good-looking lady, who just came of age and went to Pattaya to work at a bar and find a western guy for herself on a more permanent basis. She did find a guy and had a relationship with him. But it didn't last partly because the guy was in his 20's, perhaps too young for long-term commitment. She was inexperienced and chose a wrong guy.

Chances are that your lady found somebody. And that's why she isn't there anymore.

This kind of thing might be unusual in western countries. But there is nothing unusual about this in Thailand. They have a less judgmental view of P4P sex, than western people have.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2058670]....

Showered the soap off and then on to the bed for the cat bath and then another excellent blow job using some KY to enhance the handjob of the shaft and balls while she thrust the rest toward her throat. Eventually put on the raincoat, moved to missionary and fucked. She was very tight almost too tight, which surprised me considering the time of the night and how long she worked there. A few of the normal positions and then finished.

Face: 8/10.
Body: 8/10 (if small tits are ok).
Service: 9/10.
Attitude: 8/10.
Damage: 4800 + 500 tip.
WIR: nope

Summary: like a lot of massage places, the totally professional and somewhat mechanical service didn't really inspire me. All I could think was that she does this exact same routine with every guy it's just her job. I much prefer unscripted sessions with girls where I control the pace and the activities and the girl is surprised and therefore more emotionally engaged. As with so many MPs R37 plays out her normal routine and any deviation is discouraged. But, if you like being "serviced" in a well-practiced and proven way, The Lord ladies seem to deliver and in surroundings which are clean and pleasant, albeit all at a fairly steep price by Asian standards.

~ Steel[/QUOTE]I'd say that this lady's tightness was probably due to lack of foreplay for her. She wasn't quite ready for you.

Because her foreplay was all one-way. She did a lot with your cock. But you didn't do anything with her pussy and clit from what I can gather in your description.

Even a lady, who does it every day, still needs foreplay to get excited and ready. This is no different than this is for guys. If you go to a massage parlour every day, then you still need foreplay, perhaps even more so, because you are doing it so much. Doing it more actually requires more foreplay, rather than less.

I found from my experience that the trick with the hot chick is to adapt yourself to the lady and do her spontaneously in any way you can, while she tries to go through her usual routine with you. Instead of trying to take control, you should please the girl, while she is at it with you. When the lady grabs your cock and plays around with it, then instead of just laying there passively and letting her do it, you can reach for her pussy and clit with some lube on your hand give her some spontaneous pleasure of her own. Here are a couple of examples of what you can do:

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I haven't met any Thai massage lady who could maintain her usual routine with me, when her clit was fully erect and she was panting as a result of my pussy masturbation for her. All you need to do is reach out for her pussy and clit and make it as pleasant for her, as she is making it pleasant for you. The lady can have her routine as much as she wants. You just need to be flexible and adaptable and find her pussy and clit with you masturbating hand, no matter which way she turns.

Being all hands with the hot lady is what I call it. The lady can do whatever she wants. You don't try to take control from her. But your hand always finds her pussy and clit and masturbates it.

This is like a cock and pussy dance, where the lady takes the lead, and you just follow her movements and adapt yourself to her. Even if the lady brings her legs as close together as she can, then you can still slip one finger inside her slit and masturbate it. This much I can say from my own experience.

But this is just foreplay. You can also make it more spontaneous and exciting, when the time comes for the lay. And it's as simple as telling the lady that that you want something different, when she lies on her back and offers you the missionary position with her. You don't take control from her. She is still the one who decides what other position to offer you. And from my own experience I can say that the lady in this situation will probably surprise your cock with her pussy in some unusual position.

I did this with one massage lady, after she offered me the missionary position. And she took my cock in a side-by-side, face-to-face position. She was the one who pushed her pussy on my cock like this. Then I grabbed her ass and nailed her for all I was worth. Here is an example of this type of position:

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You don't need to take control from the lady to make it spontaneous and fun for both of you. You just need to make it mutual, rather than one way. And this mutuality has to come from you, rather than from her. Because she is already doing her part, when she goes through her routine with you. It's up to you to be spontaneous with her and make it fun for both you and her.

Being all hands with the lady doesn't make you a baddie, unless she tells you to stop, but you persist anyway. I found from my experience that Thai P4P ladies usually let you be all hands with them as much as you want. And you can really get the lady panting and orgasming with you, if you do it the right way. The only thing these ladies might not like is if you try to insert your fingers inside their pussy or ass. It has to be topical masturbation and massage, rather than insertions and penetrations. And of course you need to be careful about making it pleasant for the lady, rather than painful and uncomfortable for her. Because painful and uncomfortable will for sure make her say 'No' to you.

As far as I remember, the multi pop oilies are:

Snow White, Tulip, Mango and Cherry. Have I missed any? Thanks.

Damage: 2990 1. 5 hrs Jacuzzi room, gave the girl a 500 baht tip also.

Girls Name: Champagne / Oil (nickname).

Height: 5'1 or so, 43/44 kg based.

Body Shape: Thin / Small bum, enhanced breasts (because I prefer).

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 6. 5 or 7/10.

Age: 23 (Southern girl, been up in Bangkok for a short time, says she has been working at CM for 2 months. Who knows?

Details: Went into Club 102 (as opposed to Addict), Saw in the line up around 25 girls. I would say at 4 pm there might have been 30. Spoke to the owner as only guy there (though some came in 5 minutes after me (Japanese), and told him I preferred a girl that shaved her pussy and had enhanced breasts. Turned out my filter yielded zero! - Enhanced tits took the number from 25 down to 7, and shaved pussy to zero. Well decided I should at least stick to one of the two and thus went for Champagne on account of long hair, small body, thin shape. (probably on another day, by the way I would have chosen bebe (mostly on attitude.).

Anyway, selection made, room paid for, up we go. Jacuzzi was in the corner and Oil turned it on but the water was running slowly. So given we had our clothes off anyway, decided to try out some kissing (not really her thing, no tongue and not super responsive) and then to see what she might like. Breasts are large for her frame but she has nice nipples that are responsive. Flat stomach with piercing (not large). Pussy is not shaven but she is not hairy really, and she is responsive to both touch and tongue, and with the right approach, allows fingering too. Took my time for about 15 minutes of pleasure, and then we went into the jacuzzi.

Got myself a wash front and back and a bit of playing, overall I would say Oil was a bit on the tentative side, although she does speak quite a bit of English. However, I think she isn't used to Farang customers, and not to experienced guys who take their time.

Anyway, wash was fine, nothing special. We then went back to the bed, and had a fairly normal session. Oil has a pretty small pussy so that made sex a bit challenging and limited the positions we could try a bit. However, she did try her best to deal with my thicker shaft, and then when I could tell it wasn't going to lead to an outcome, took it on herself to give me a proper blowjob, first as a direct and then in 69. Her technique didn't involve any deep throating once I was at full size but she gave my head and shaft enough of the right attention to arrive at a happy endiing. Having her pussy in my faces with her juices in my mouth didn't hurt in getting me horny enough.

After that I gave her a massage and she one in turn (which was better than average) and the time was up. (pretty much precisely, just time for a quick shower). In terms of things, as I said no real passion in her performance and I never quite figured out how to really get her to put everything in the room to one side. Thus, it all seemed a bit contrived, which is why my service view isn't better.

As an aside, the quality of the roster looks pretty good (more above average then less) and is the best I have seen (as an overall group) for a while, even though the rates are no different from anywhere else and quite a bit less than the top soapies.

I might go back and try someone else at the place although I remember one girl at Teen Love Massage back in January that I was definitely attracted to, but didn't see because my friend couldn't find anyone he liked. So not sure. Anyway punters enjoy.

I really don't want to sound rude. But why tip her 500 bath for a mediocre / bad service?

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;2060341]Damage: 2990 1. 5 hrs Jacuzzi room, gave the girl a 500 baht tip also.

Girls Name: Champagne / Oil (nickname).

Height: 5'1 or so, 43/44 kg based.

Body Shape: Thin / Small bum, enhanced breasts (because I prefer).

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 6. 5 or 7/10.

Age: 23 (Southern girl, been up in Bangkok for a short time, says she has been working at CM for 2 months. Who knows?

Details: Went into Club 102 (as opposed to Addict), Saw in the line up around 25 girls. I would say at 4 pm there might have been 30. Spoke to the owner as only guy there (though some came in 5 minutes after me (Japanese), and told him I preferred a girl that shaved her pussy and had enhanced breasts. Turned out my filter yielded zero! - Enhanced tits took the number from 25 down to 7, and shaved pussy to zero. Well decided I should at least stick to one of the two and thus went for Champagne on account of long hair, small body, thin shape..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Francesco24;2060838]I really don't want to sound rude. But why tip her 500 bath for a mediocre / bad service?[/QUOTE]I always give evey girl money regardless of service as I always want to know they get something personal / 500 baht is not much in twrms of my personal scale /.

I hadn't been to Snow White in a long time, so none of my old regulars were still working. One cute, young girl kept smiling at me. She was full-bodied (not fat), and I usually like them thin. I really liked her smile and her presence, so I went with her and took her back to my hotel. I really made the right decision. Service was great. BBBJ was wonderful. For someone not too experienced, she was great. Wonderful motion and tongue hit all the right places. She sucked my balls as well, which I loved. Sex was even better. She really got into it and enjoyed every minute. I started laying down on my back with her between my legs. She got me rock-hard with a great blowjob. She put the condom on, then hopped on for a wonderful ride in cowgirl. After a while, I sat up and held her, while she moved in sensuous fashion. Afterwards, I sat on a chair with her sitting astride me. That position made my cock go deep inside her. Very sensuous. I put her back on the bed and got her doggie style, then flat doggie. Finally, I turned her over and with her on the bottom and me on top, I went to town until I came. She's really cute, but not a beauty. Highly recommended.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;2060985]I always give evey girl money regardless of service as I always want to know they get something personal / 500 baht is not much in twrms of my personal scale /.[/QUOTE]Been going to oilies for almost 10 years now. Never tipped a Baht. Always get great service and have had many regulars. Has nothing to do with what it means to my pocket.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2061082]I hadn't been to Snow White in a long time, so none of my old regulars were still working. One cute, young girl kept smiling at me. She was full-bodied (not fat), and I usually like them thin. I really liked her smile and her presence, so I went with her and took her back to my hotel. I really made the right decision. Service was great. BBBJ was wonderful. For someone not too experienced, she was great. Wonderful motion and tongue hit all the right places. She sucked my balls as well, which I loved. Sex was even better. She really got into it and enjoyed every minute. I started laying down on my back with her between my legs. She got me rock-hard with a great blowjob. She put the condom on, then hopped on for a wonderful ride in cowgirl. After a while, I sat up and held her, while she moved in sensuous fashion. Afterwards, I sat on a chair with her sitting astride me. That position made my cock go deep inside her. Very sensuous. I put her back on the bed and got her doggie style, then flat doggie. Finally, I turned her over and with her on the bottom and me on top, I went to town until I came. She's really cute, but not a beauty. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Baby damage or was the body ok?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2061135]Baby damage or was the body ok?[/QUOTE]If she is the same Aom than a few month ago, the one that came at the same time than Ninja, she's got a lot of damage.

Plus she liked to drink beer everyday, but she is a very enthusiastic girl.

[QUOTE=Francesco24;2060838]I really don't want to sound rude. But why tip her 500 bath for a mediocre / bad service?[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Why tip for poor or indifferent service? I normally tip 500 baht for good service and occasionally up to 1500 for some special services. If I think the session is going to be bad instead of wasting a shot I just terminate the session. However, I have known many of the ladies on both a professional and a personal level for years and understand what they have to go through each day so the tips are very important. For example at one shop I frequent, the ladies have to pay 200 baht each day for the facility plus 200 for each customer so they only get 1300 for the session. One customer that day with no tip and you make 1100 baht. No customers, you still pay the shop plus all travel expenses, maybe the BTS to work but a taxi home as BTS closes at midnight. They must pay for all the supplies of soap, condoms, lube etc which adds up but the real costs to them are the "fines" the have to pay for missing time. Late up to 2 hours 1000 baht, over that its 2000 baht. Miss a day during the week its 3000 baht and 5000 each day on the weekend. Go home early after say 9:00 and its 1000 baht. Sick time off is another expensive process and some ladies may have no customers for several days during the slow season and end up paying to sit there for 12 hours a day. A tip, even a small one is important.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;2060985]I always give evey girl money regardless of service as I always want to know they get something personal / 500 baht is not much in twrms of my personal scale /.[/QUOTE]I get the rationale of tipping well, I do and it's more than appreciated by the girls but when the session is way below standard it's not advisable. Like any service the tip should reflect an appreciation for effort and to tip 500 to one and all irrespective of the level of service will do nothing to improve overall standards. It may in fact lower them, why bother if you're going to get tipped anyway.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2061135]Baby damage or was the body ok?[/QUOTE]No baby damage, She's young.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2061569]No baby damage, She's young.[/QUOTE]Thanks much. Must be a new Aom. SW does have some talent now.

So I see LOTS of reports on how much gogo girls make, what the pay / management structure is. And a few on oillies. But, does anyone know how ratachada soapies like Posedien / The Lord work? What percentage does the establishment keep? Do the keep all of the falang surcharge (do the girls make the same regardless, or are they more happy to see falagns since they effectively get paid more) ? Also, this is an interesting question these days, since the soapy business is all being regulated (lots of raids now), are all the books legit? Do the girls get paid over-the-table, and therefore have to pay income tax?

Saturday at around 3 pm I decided to have a look at the oilies. Past through soi 24/1 and saw nothing interesting, went directly to Yorimichi on soi 26 and 2 Koreans were already looking at the lineup. 5 or 6 girls wearing a nice air hostess style uniform but none of them looked good. I left and went straight to Addict to book a girl that has been reviewed here a few weeks back. I entered the soi by the first alley and at around 20 metre from the shop I saw the girls were just going outside with one of them being a tall and very slim girl that looked very much like a LB. I thought WTF is this? Addict have LBs in their line up now? While I entered I had a very brief view of the other girls outside and none was good looking. The manager and girls came in after me and were saying "sit down first" but I directly told her that I want to book a girl, I don't want to see the lineup. She went to ask at the boss (cashier) and told me the girl will be available in 2 hours. At the same time, the girl that I initially thought was a LB came in and I instantly told the manager I take her, 2 hours, oil.

Yeah, she is that beautiful. She made me forget everything just by looking at her one second. I heard one of the girls saying that she just came down and she will go upstairs again. I can easily understand that almost none of their girls can stand a chance against her in the line up. A short stylish hairstyle, a pretty face, tall 1. 7 m, a very slim waist, big false boobs, beautiful slim legs and a very good ass. I let you imagine what she can looks like. She looks very confident and is not shy at all. She was in front of me in the stairs and the view was great, her tight dress going up, revealing her beautifully shaped ass with her white underwear. Once arrived in the room she insisted to undress me before going to take her stuffs. I needed to know her name and she told me "Smile". I thought WTF, I was quite sure to know that girl by looking her old pic on the website a few month ago and now that she is in front of me I did not even recognize her. The only way to be sure was to have a close look at her small tattoos on her neck and indeed it was her, she told me she remembered me also but thought that we met in Addict. So that's what it takes to make a good looking girl looks like a stunner; give her a stylish hair style, a tight uniform and high heels shoes.

I'm not the only one to think so as she had already 2 sessions before me and sometimes get 6 or 7 sessions a day. She puts a strict or serious look on her face but in fact she is one of the sweetest and friendliest girl I've met. Now for the service, don't expect anything more than you would receive from any other Addict girl. A basic fuck service and a HJ or BJ as a 2nd shot if you're lucky. Her pussy suited me perfectly, not too tight, not loose and a perfect width. I did not heard any complain from her during the 2 hours. She can DFK lightly, and her BJ is very soft. She is not the most skilled and might also be tired due to numerous bookings but her looks ans sweet personality makes it really worth a visit.

2300 baht is a real bargain to spend 2 hours and fuck a girl like that.

Look at a pic of Halle Berry when she had short hairs, put a more Thaiish face ans skin color, less athletic also and now you know what Smile looks like. If anyone wants to meet her, book her straight away, you cannot be disappointed by her looks or go their at 10 am to meet her when she is still fresh. She doesn't need you as she already attracts all the customers that enter the shop, but you need her and you will know what it feels to meet a James Bond girl. As always treat her well because she is a gem.

Price 2300 for 2 hours.

Wir? No unless I spot her again in the line up.

Yesterday, after a business conference up near the Thai Cultural Center, I decided to walk up to the Lord, and get a personal introduction to the establishment. As I came upon it, I was impressed by its sheer size. It looked very much like Rio in Macau. On entering, I was greeted by various people and eventually introduced to the Mamasan. The place is vast and while it has a upmarket feel, it isn't quite the luxury that I get in Macau. There when you go in, after gambling, you get pampered before you even lay eyes on a girl, this includes being showered by others, a hot pool to relax in etc (there is an entrance fee to cover this.), In The Lord, you basically come in and face the girls.

The system is fairly straight forward, not ideal in my view. But anyway there are 7 letters available. For westerners (who I hear pay more? Prices start at THB4300 and go up to THB11,300. This is all inclusive for the room and for the girl for 90 minutes. The price depends on the letter. The letter I have been told is assigned by the mamasan to each girl (it can change) and seems to depend not only on looks, but education, poise, height and some other qualities. I decided for my first visit I would stick in the middle of the range, which basically meant M,K, or I think X. (not sure of the last one).

The girls are all in dresses, all wear makeup (that they don't take off, even lipstick.), have heels on and all are pretty nice. I couldn't really say that a girl at the top end is vastly superior (yes, better) than a girl at the bottom, but my intention is to try 3 times the full range and then we will see.

When I arrived at 5:05, I was the only guy there. At my disposal were about 30 girls. (this number rises to 45 at 6:45 which seems to be the peak time). All of the girls either sit in a semi circle next to each other, or stand on the left as you go in (sit to). All are Asian, but I don't think all are thai. In fact I am pretty sure there were some Koreans as well as Japanese in the line up as well. I would say that among them, perhaps 1/7 would prefer not to be selected by a Western guy. I got this from body language, but maybe I was over reading the room.

When I go to high end places elsewhere, one of the major advantages they offer is that you can see every girl because they all get up (at fixed times) and parade. This way you actually can see someone front / back as well as get a much closer look at their face. They don't do this at Lord which is a shame (for one guy at least), so it took me a bit of time to select as I had to look at every girl's badge (to figure out her price) and then compare girls that were all in my price point. Anyway, based on eye contact, smile, and face (probably more than body.) I selected AUM.

Now I am not a giant guy (1. 75), but I realized when she got up that AUM is very small, probably 1. 53/1. 55 at most. I have this habit (not easily explained) of picking small girls. So AUM was pretty much a type that I have a lot of experience with (which isn't always a great thing). In any case, choice made, I went to the cashier, paid the Thb6400, paid the room charge (thb400) and then set off with AUM, holding my hand like a GF.

We entered room 10, which was nicely set up, with a large bath / jacuzzi, a shower area, and a large superking bed. I ordered a beer and AUM got everything started, told me to relax etc. This I did, though punters should keep in mind that these kinds of places are "clock watchers", not the girls, but the management, thus at best if they say 1. 5 hrs, you will get 15 min extra unless you give the ladies at the front a 1,000 baht to relax.

So to the details of the experience.

AUM without her clothes on is small breasted (but firm), with a pretty face, nice hair etc. She isn't in great shape, not fat or anything but she has a small baby belly. Thus on my scale, probably a 7. (yes I would glance at her on the Street but wouldn't follow it up.) She wasn't 100% shaven but had a good grooming. Which was a bit of a surprise to me (as not often the standard in Asia.).

We shared a few kisses (with / without tongue) outside of the bath, and then got in it so AUM could do her thing. This (for about 20 minutes) consists of a full wash. Front and back. A blowjob (skillfully performed with lots of eye contact) and body to body (using her breasts). I lot AUM do her thing without much interruption on my part, except to linger over her various erogenous parts from time to time.

Bath completed, we dried up and started making out (not in the bed). Making out went on to mutual touching. AUM has a very sweet and responsive pussy. Lubricates nicely to the touch, and she has a sensitive clit as well as nipples on her breasts. I was getting horny, and had she been my girlfriend, I probably just would have picked her up and impaled her on my cock, but of course, this is a safe environment. Etc.

Thus I did lift her up but placed her on the bed, and then spent time exploring her body with kisses, tongue and teasing her with my cock as well. That was fun, and AUM enjoyed the build up. She didn't stop me from doing anything until she had an orgasm (from tongue and fingers), and then wanted to return the favor. So we switched positions and she started giving me a proper blowjob. She used quite a bit of saliva and though I don't think she get do a true DT, the girl does have skills which includes sucking your balls, licking the shaft etc.

I was getting closer by this time, so we decided to go to intercourse. This wasn't a straight forward situation because this is a girl with a very small pussy, and I am not a guy, so the girls keep telling me, with a small cock. It has gotten to the point where I bring my own condoms, and spend a good amount of time easing the girls into sex, rather than just going deep straight away. With AUM it took the later approach, which started with very slow doggie on the end of the bed, and then moved to her getting on top, squatting as well as cowgirls, and finally ended with a form of missionary. AUM has got of energy (got thing) and eventually after about 15 minutes of various positions, we found a connection, as she adjusted to my girth (always do) and stopped worrying about whether she was going to be able to do her 3 sessions! As this started to happen, a few things changed. 1) She stopped merely receiving and started responding in rhythm 2) her pussy muscles started to contract a lot harder 3) she started to moan, and thrash about under me. These events turned the experience itself from yet another lukewarm exercise into something much better and eventually after a lot more pounding and a lot more thrashing, moaning, and tightening, we actually nearly came together.

At that point we had 10 minutes on the clock, so I had AUM give me a quick massage, and we then had a clean up, had a quick kiss, and departed the room.

Given that I have now tried 10 massage places of various prices. Locations, types etc, I would not say that it was the best, from a pure service perspective, but it definitely was high end, and the overall calibre of the girl, in terms of engagement, education, attentiveness, and service was very good (on par without the gimmicks to Rio).

As I said I will go back again (unless the community gives me high end alternatives, I have tried Poseidon (upstairs. And some girls of same quality) and report further.

I started my vacation with a trip to Snow White, so I concluded it there last week as well.

Girl: Audi.

Age: 25.

Home: Nakhon Phanom.

Place: Snow White.

Price: 1. 900 THB for 1 HR.

Shots: 1, but probably more if you can manage.

Body: a little more curvy / meaty, but not really big or even fat fat, thick thighs, 155 to 160 cm tall, shoulderlong, very thick brown hair, small be cup, nice round ass, some bigger belly, slightly baby damage, for me she looks older than she really is, the pics at website are quite accurate.

Room: as usual standard room at Snow White.

Sex: good to very good.

Massage: no massage, just went straight up for fucking.

Other: DFK, anal.

Audi is another great performer who might be overlooked due to her average look. She did everything you expect to get at Snow White and she did it with a smile. Audi is quite bubbly, a truly happy girl and eager to please. Started giving BBBJ right in the shower, very good kissing, She took the pounding of her ass like a pro and didn't shy away from taking a cum shot right on her face to finish things.

All in all a very good performance with a nice girl.

This girl at SW has probably been reviewed before, but I have not checked.

I have called into SW several times in the last year but this was first time went upstairs in a year. The reason, is simply at the time of visits, there were no skinny model types that were good enough looking to be a pass.

I believe my last previous girl was probably Emmy who I reviewed maybe 2 years ago or even more.

So I could see that Candy was slim but curvy from waste to thigh, very small in the chest, and brown skinned, probable nose job but acceptable.

Immediate decision she looked okay Enough to go upstairs. Nice shaped ass, not too fat, not too small, not saggy.

The good aspects:

Slim model type; nose job but not obvious (a superior one); no silicones; very enthusiastic at all times trying her best to please. Very good soft slurpy BBBJ DT to about 5 inches (not quite full DT). BJ feeling so good that makes you really want to CIM. Pussy very tight indeed, nearly as tight as an Ahole, but feeling is better as does not grip cock at only the opening. Good tongue kissing. She never made any complaints at all. Very sorry about spilling the Nuru Gel no big deal. Nuru technique good (since knows to slide slowly).

Negatives (for some people):

Brown skin (not a worry), slight damage from C-section causing navel pucker (incision hidden in navel cavity?) Nipples nice but almost zero tits (nothing there to sag).

Anal: Not known, did not request, pussy already very tight (hard to fit two fingers in at first). She wanted to give me prostate massage, but I declined it, so I don't know how good she is at this. Suspect good based on other service.

Best part of all: BBBJ was very superior for me liking soft and slow. Hand did touch base of cock but so softly as to not be a problem. Hand massaged balls with very nice soft tickling touch.

Would I repeat? For technique and fun, yes absolutely. For looks she is well behind my favourite girls, for body and face, but I am very tough in this area so I consider her well above average looks in the Oilies for those who like skinny girls and brown skin is okay.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2062480]This girl at SW has probably been reviewed before, but I have not checked.
.........
So I could see that Candy

Anal: Not known, did not request, [/QUOTE]Friend of mine fucked Candy 5 days ago, he confirm to me that A+ service is available.

I've searched reports from last two years. Lots of reports of these places going downhill but are pretty old reports. A quick look at websites shows many ladies right up my alley. More so Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.

Hello guys,

Thanks all for your knowledgeable inputs my short trip to Bangkok was worth the visit.

Landed at Sofitel sukhumvit great guest friendly hotel at 9 p. M. Immediately checked smoocci and found Priya available booked her.

Expected time of arrival was 10.30 P M. I got my self ready, she was on time.

Priya from smoocci.

Good bubbly energetic girl. After small mocktail, real active girl with great motivational skill with fake moans.

DFK, DATY, BBBJ. Allowed after 1 shot I was exhausted I am 64 years now.

Worth repeating.

Day 2 Mitu massage.

Recuperated till 4 p. M in between enjoyed hospitality of Sofitel voila and club mellisme.

Took a motorbike taxi to Soi 33 Mitu massage.

It is just before s33 hotel cannot miss the Japaneses signage.

They have 3 levels of massage.

I chose premium girl I think it costed me 4000 be.

Sorry I am bad with names.

Age; 35 years.

Shots; 2.

Body; perfect.

Room; OK better than bamboo massage.

Quality os sex; I went there for nuru mssage sex was additional pleasure.

DFK yes.

Attitude; she was drunk with cheap alcohol I had nauseating experience.

Otherwise good massage place.

They give you Japanese energy drink at the time of entry, and ice cream at time of departure.

Back to room by scooter taxi 40 be.

Day 3 Plaza entertainment complex.

Again took scooter taxi to plaza that guy took me to cupidy instead I went to sherbet.

It is situated above cupidy.

Inside girls are sitting in couches few of them in row chairs.

Cost is from 3500 to 5500 be.

20 to 25 girls all great looking.

I selected 5000 b girl university student.

Age 20 years.

Shots 1.

Body great.

Room better than Nataree, bath tub is extra large.

Quality of sex more mechanical no excitement.

DFK no.

Will I repeat I may with different girl just for face and body.

Day 4 African.

Woke up at 6 pm Just went down I met nice, sexy black girl with good attitude, price 3000 bahths, short time hotel near Soi cow boy.

It was high light of of my journey.

Day 5.

I went to health land spa and had great massage rejuvenated.

I really miss Bangkok a lot.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2062480]This girl at SW has probably been reviewed before, but I have not checked.

I have called into SW several times in the last year but this was first time went upstairs in a year. The reason, is simply at the time of visits, there were no skinny model types that were good enough looking to be a pass.

I believe my last previous girl was probably Emmy who I reviewed maybe 2 years ago or even more.

So I could see that Candy was slim but curvy from waste to thigh, very small in the chest, and brown skinned, probable nose job but acceptable.


Would I repeat? For technique and fun, yes absolutely. For looks she is well behind my favourite girls, for body and face, but I am very tough in this area so I consider her well above average looks in the Oilies for those who like skinny girls and brown skin is okay.[/QUOTE]I did take her during my trip in March. Yes she is talented in BBBJ skills and did make me CIM. Didn't swallow though. She does A+ but I didn't go for it.

In my recent visit in July I did Aom. A very cheerful and smiling girl. Not skinny but not fat either. Small boobs but natural. No nose job. Loved DATY and was very vocal in her response. At times I worried about others hearing her loud screams and moaning. Did a fairly good BBBJ, maybe not as good as Candy but acceptable. Took her for 90 minutes and the time was well spent.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2062532]<snip>Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.[/QUOTE]Don't even waste a minute of your time thinking about what the price cops might think. It's your money. You earned it! If you want the best you have to pay for the best. Pimp Club is great or rather the girls there are great. It will an expensive night, especially for one guy, but you will have a great time as long as you don't try to hold back. The Lord is real good too. 1st class all the way and with great girls. Go Go's like CH, Twister, Kings Castle 1 & 2 same same. Mixx disco bar is good too. Read the forum, so you know the general price range and what to expect in each venue before you go. That way you will spend a large, yes, but never overpay. There is a huge difference.

A BM in the Macau forum recently posted a response to the inflation and really high prices reported accurately about the Macau Saunas these days.

[QUOTE=Spider916;2062585]I remember the time when a Porsche 911 cost 50.000 DM, now it costs 100.000 Euros. Totally insane. I will boycott Porsche until they lower their prices![/QUOTE] Me too. I plan to drive my 2005 Honda Pilot for another 10 years, but pussy is different. I can live without a Porsche 911. I can't live without my young, sexy, little, Asian bunnies.

"I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. " -W.C. Fields.

"I would rather have two girls at 21 each than one girl at 42. " -W.C. Fields.

Great report, Rye!!

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;2062386]Yesterday, after a business conference up near the Thai Cultural Center, I decided to walk up to the Lord, and get a personal introduction to the establishment. As I came upon it, I was impressed by its sheer size. It looked very much like Rio in Macau. On entering, I was greeted by various people and eventually introduced to the Mamasan. The place is vast and while it has a upmarket feel, it isn't quite the luxury that I get in Macau. There when you go in, after gambling, you get pampered before you even lay eyes on a girl, this includes being showered by others, a hot pool to relax in etc (there is an entrance fee to cover this.), In The Lord, you basically come in and face the girls.

The system is fairly straight forward, not ideal in my view. But anyway there are 7 letters available. For westerners (who I hear pay more? Prices start at THB4300 and go up to THB11,300. This is all inclusive for the room and for the girl for 90 minutes. The price depends on the letter. The letter I have been told is assigned by the mamasan to each girl (it can change) and seems to depend not only on looks, but education, poise, height and some other qualities. I decided for my first visit I would stick in the middle of the range, which basically meant M,K, or I think X. (not sure of the last one).

The girls are all in dresses, all wear makeup (that they don't take off, even lipstick.), have heels on and all are pretty nice. I couldn't really say that a girl at the top end is vastly superior (yes, better) than a girl at the bottom, but my intention is to try 3 times the full range and then we will see.

When I arrived at 5:05, I was the only guy there. At my disposal were about 30 girls. (this number rises to 45 at 6:45 which seems to be the peak time). All of the girls either sit in a semi circle next to each other, or stand on the left as you go in (sit to). All are Asian, but I don't think all are thai. In fact I am pretty sure there were some Koreans as well as Japanese in the line up as well. I would say that among them, perhaps 1/7 would prefer not to be selected by a Western guy. I got this from body language, but maybe I was over reading the room.

When I go to high end places elsewhere, one of the major advantages they offer is that you can see every girl because they all get up (at fixed times) and parade. This way you actually can see someone front / back as well as get a much closer look at their face. They don't do this at Lord which is a shame (for one guy at least), so it took me a bit of time to select as I had to look at every girl's badge (to figure out her price) and then compare girls that were all in my price point. Anyway, based on eye contact, smile, and face (probably more than body.) I selected AUM.

Now I am not a giant guy (1. 75), but I realized when she got up that AUM is very small, probably 1. 53/1. 55 at most. I have this habit (not easily explained) of picking small girls. So AUM was pretty much a type that I have a lot of experience with (which isn't always a great thing). In any case, choice made, I went to the cashier, paid the Thb6400, paid the room charge (thb400) and then set off with AUM, holding my hand like a GF.

We entered room 10, which was nicely set up, with a large bath / jacuzzi, a shower area, and a large superking bed. I ordered a beer and AUM got everything started, told me to relax etc. This I did, though punters should keep in mind that these kinds of places are "clock watchers", not the girls, but the management, thus at best if they say 1. 5 hrs, you will get 15 min extra unless you give the ladies at the front a 1,000 baht to relax.

So to the details of the experience.

AUM without her clothes on is small breasted (but firm), with a pretty face, nice hair etc. She isn't in great shape, not fat or anything but she has a small baby belly. Thus on my scale, probably a 7. (yes I would glance at her on the Street but wouldn't follow it up.) She wasn't 100% shaven but had a good grooming. Which was a bit of a surprise to me (as not often the standard in Asia.).

We shared a few kisses (with / without tongue) outside of the bath, and then got in it so AUM could do her thing. This (for about 20 minutes) consists of a full wash. Front and back. A blowjob (skillfully performed with lots of eye contact) and body to body (using her breasts). I lot AUM do her thing without much interruption on my part, except to linger over her various erogenous parts from time to time.

Bath completed, we dried up and started making out (not in the bed). Making out went on to mutual touching. AUM has a very sweet and responsive pussy. Lubricates nicely to the touch, and she has a sensitive clit as well as nipples on her breasts. I was getting horny, and had she been my girlfriend, I probably just would have picked her up and impaled her on my cock, but of course, this is a safe environment. Etc.

Thus I did lift her up but placed her on the bed, and then spent time exploring her body with kisses, tongue and teasing her with my cock as well. That was fun, and AUM enjoyed the build up. She didn't stop me from doing anything until she had an orgasm (from tongue and fingers), and then wanted to return the favor. So we switched positions and she started giving me a proper blowjob. She used quite a bit of saliva and though I don't think she get do a true DT, the girl does have skills which includes sucking your balls, licking the shaft etc.

I was getting closer by this time, so we decided to go to intercourse. This wasn't a straight forward situation because this is a girl with a very small pussy, and I am not a guy, so the girls keep telling me, with a small cock. It has gotten to the point where I bring my own condoms, and spend a good amount of time easing the girls into sex, rather than just going deep straight away. With AUM it took the later approach, which started with very slow doggie on the end of the bed, and then moved to her getting on top, squatting as well as cowgirls, and finally ended with a form of missionary. AUM has got of energy (got thing) and eventually after about 15 minutes of various positions, we found a connection, as she adjusted to my girth (always do) and stopped worrying about whether she was going to be able to do her 3 sessions! As this started to happen, a few things changed. 1) She stopped merely receiving and started responding in rhythm 2) her pussy muscles started to contract a lot harder 3) she started to moan, and thrash about under me. These events turned the experience itself from yet another lukewarm exercise into something much better and eventually after a lot more pounding and a lot more thrashing, moaning, and tightening, we actually nearly came together.

At that point we had 10 minutes on the clock, so I had AUM give me a quick massage, and we then had a clean up, had a quick kiss, and departed the room.

Given that I have now tried 10 massage places of various prices. Locations, types etc, I would not say that it was the best, from a pure service perspective, but it definitely was high end, and the overall calibre of the girl, in terms of engagement, education, attentiveness, and service was very good (on par without the gimmicks to Rio).

As I said I will go back again (unless the community gives me high end alternatives, I have tried Poseidon (upstairs. And some girls of same quality) and report further.[/QUOTE]

Natty:

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.

QUOTE=Natty Bumpo.

The only soapy I know where I have had consistently GREAT service no matter who I was with is the Lord. But the Lord price is high. So, I ask you, theoretically speaking, what would you rather do; spend two more nights like the one you reported on in the hope of finding a hot, sexy girl who does you right and spend around 9000 baht total in the search, or spend 5000 bt or 6000 bt for sex crazed girl who is going to make passionate love to your dick with her mouth 3 times during the session, lick your ass, DFK like there is no tomorrow, and end up shagging you like you are, for lack of a better word, a Lord? For me the answer to that question is a given. For example, on my last trip, I averaged a visit to the Lord once every week for the 5 weeks I was in BKK. I would have spent more time at the Lord, but it's kind of like eating at a fine dining Michelin 3 star restaurant. You can't do it every night. It's too much. Yet every Lord girl I was with was a little different, but each one gave me a memorable session. I always left that place feeling good / really good, so it was definitely worth the price as far as I am concerned.

In sharp contrast, I also paid a visit to an old favorite soapy of mine called La Belle. In the past, I have had some truly great sessions in La Belle with some real foxes. This time I took a very attractive girl upstairs for around 3200 bt or 3800 bt, I forget. But the session was barely acceptable and I remembered why La Belle is no longer my favorite place and the Lord is. So, my very attractive La Belle girl possessed a very pretty face and a smokin' hot body. As far as looks are concerned she was as pretty or more so than my Lord girls. The session started out slow as we waited for the tub to fill as contrasted to ALL my Lord sessions where the girl is immediately taking off my pants and blowing me as soon as the door closes while the tub fills. Anyway, the La Belle girl was very good in the tub, but the list of her no's began to mount as the session progressed: first there was no tongue, then no DATY (a real give away because if a soapy girl does not.

So, I just write this post to let you know there is at least one great soapy still in town with great girls. Yes, I have had great times in La Belle and other soapies around town and I am pretty sure that if I went to La Belle a few more times this last trip, I would have eventually hooked up with the right girl and had some more really good times, but I hate those mediocre sessions at any price. I think they are a big waste of my time and money.

Was drinking my Lipo in front of 7/11 down bts Thonglor on Saturday afternoon when I saw that girl with a naughty look entering the shop. She was not a stunner but one kind that I like to have a look at when I see them walking. Around 1. 65 metres not skinny nor fat, long light colored hairs and a MILF-like face. She was on her phone while buying her stuffs and not caring anyone around her. I thought to myself that I would gladly fuck that girl if given the chance. Then I waited and looked where she was going and she entered the Pretty Massage shop from behind. A few minutes later I was there looking at the pics of their girls. I spotted her on their pics even though her face looks better on pics. At that time they also had 2 other girls that looked not bad at all. Finally I chose a 2 hour massage for 2400 baht. Her name is Lucky and you can see her pics on their website. Her face looks a bit like Sai's pics but larger (and more chubby) and some holes or old acne scars. I would not say that she is pretty but rather fuckable. She was shy to undress and kept the room dark for the shower but I could have my hands all over her during that time.

She is a good alternative for guys tired of small and skinny with flat ass girls. She comes from Chiang Rai, has a white beautiful skin, no scars (except some on her face), big false boobs, a round firm belly (not fat, but more like some athletic girls, no baby damage), a very nice big and firm ass, and beautiful firm legs. She says she is 29 but I would say around 35. She is experienced as she is working there on part time for about a year. For the ones that are curious about her pussy, she is not shaved but it's certainly not a jungle down there. Her English is probably limited as most of the girls in that shop.

We laid down and after a good chitchat we went for a long and passionate DFK, then a good DATY. She likes it as she is not the hardest to make cum by DATY. Then I went up and kissed her again and slowly brought my dick near her face. Long and soft BJ that felt very good. That position is great to be sucked because when it becomes too exciting we can move a bit or take it out a few seconds to enjoy her BJ for a longer time. Eventually I couldn't hold it anymore and did a CIM.

She went quickly in the shower and told me it's the first time she does it. It is certainly not the first time that a girl tells me this in that shop, but when it's said with a big smile who cares if it's a BS?

Then we took around 30 min of chitchat until I engaged the second round. It started again with a long DFK but that time I lied on her while I wasn't yet hard, and kept kissing each other while I was moving my dick around her pussy until it became hard. Condom on and we went for mish for some time, then her legs on my shoulders and quickly after we turned in doggy without even taking my dick out of her. It was a great feeling, that big ass in my hands, that beautifully shaped back with these long light colored hairs. All in it was a very pleasurable experience, and the idea of seing an attractive girl in the street and fucking her a few minutes later was certainly part of it. I would recommend her for guys that are bored of the small and skinny girls with a flat ass.

Price 2400 baht 2 hours.

WIR? Yes if I don't see another good looking girl in the line up.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2062851]

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.
[/QUOTE]La Belle is still worth going to IMHO because they still have some very good-looking girls in the lineup. My complaint is La Belle service varies widely girl to girl from just ok to great. I think the sideline girls are probably your best bet, but they are more expensive and who knows what will happen in the La Belle Room. The Lord girls, on the other hand, always have given me very good to really great (outrageously naughty) enthusiastic service. In other words, I have found much less variance in quality at the Lord. Thus, my comment that it's almost a sure thing there.

I believe that the management gets all the credit. You see the difference in the Lord management style in little things and really important things like for example how the tub is always half full of warm water when you enter the room. That takes effort and attention to detail. Water does not stay warm in a tub for very long, so the staff must be working constantly to make sure there are enough rooms with warm water 1/2 filled tubs available for customers. What other massage shop pays such attention to detail? None that I know of.

The more important issue, of course, is keeping the girls focused on giving the customer a certain level of service without coasting, or getting lazy, or spoiled. I do not know the exact methods Lord Management uses, but apparently, they run a pretty tight ship over there. One example is the mamasan or papasan who originally waits on me almost always comes over to me afterwards in the reception room to ask how things were and how my girl was. Sure, they are fishing for a tip, which I almost always give them (100 baht), but I believe they are also checking for customer satisfaction. That seems to matter at this particular place. The hosts or hostesses also remember my previous choices and when I return they ask if I want the same girl again, a similar type girl, or someone completley diferent. That is another nice personal touch and it shows me they want to make sure I have a quality good time whenever I visit.

Bottom line, I think La Belle girls and Lord girls both receive sexual training on what to do and how to do it at the begining of their tenures at their respective bordellos. The difference is the Lord management somehow keeps its girls in line and makes sure no one shirks their duties while La Belle management seems to have a looser management style and thus kind of lets their girls pretty much do what they want to do in the loom. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

On my last trip, I wanted to check out Merci and Madam. I have heard the quality is good at Merci. But every time I got off at either the Thai Cultural Center MRT station or the Huai Khwang MRT station I always headed back to the Lord. Ha Ha. But, I plan to check out one of the new places on my next trip. Emmanuelle (Amsterdam) is in the same neighborhood. You might want to check that place too, but I don't see how they can improve on the Lord except with a different, hopefully equally attractive girl or two. Lastly, Copa Cabana is a good place to go. It's is in the Lord group. Not the flagship, but not as expensive, so worth checking out. And La Belle, I still have not written that place off completely because they do have some stunners there and service with a La Belle stunner can be great, say 50% of the time. The trick would be to find a great one early in your trip thus making worthwhile repeats possible.

So, have a great trip. I look forward to reading your report and seeing how you made out. I wish I was in BKK right now!

NB.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2063044]La Belle is still worth going to IMHO because they still have some very good-looking girls in the lineup. My complaint is La Belle service varies widely girl to girl from just ok to great. I think the sideline girls are probably your best bet, but they are more expensive and who knows what will happen in the La Belle Room. The Lord girls, on the other hand, always have given me very good to really great (outrageously naughty) enthusiastic service. In other words, I have found much less variance in quality at the Lord. Thus, my comment that it's almost a sure thing there.

I believe that the management gets all the credit. You see the difference in the Lord management style in little things and really important things like for example how the tub is always half full of warm water when you enter the room. That takes effort and attention to detail. Water does not stay warm in a tub for very long, so the staff must be working constantly to make sure there are enough rooms with warm water 1/2 filled tubs available for customers. What other massage shop pays such attention to detail? None that I know of.

The more important issue, of course, is keeping the girls focused on giving the customer a certain level of service without coasting, or getting lazy, or spoiled. I do not know the exact methods Lord Management uses, but apparently, they run a pretty tight ship over there. One example is the mamasan or papasan who originally waits on me almost always comes over to me afterwards in the reception room to ask how things were and how my girl was. Sure, they are fishing for a tip, which I almost always give them (100 baht), but I believe they are also checking for customer satisfaction. That seems to matter at this particular place. The hosts or hostesses also remember my previous choices and when I return they ask if I want the same girl again, a similar type girl, or someone completley diferent. That is another nice personal touch and it shows me they want to make sure I have a quality good time whenever I visit.

Bottom line, I think La Belle girls and Lord girls both receive sexual training on what to do and how to do it at the begining of their tenures at their respective bordellos. The difference is the Lord management somehow keeps its girls in line and makes sure no one shirks their duties while La Belle management seems to have a looser management style and thus kind of lets their girls pretty much do what they want to do in the loom. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

On my last trip, I wanted to check out Merci and Madam. I have heard the quality is good at Merci. But every time I got off at either the Thai Cultural Center MRT station or the Huai Khwang MRT station I always headed back to the Lord. Ha Ha. But, I plan to check out one of the new places on my next trip. Emmanuelle (Amsterdam) is in the same neighborhood. You might want to check that place too, but I don't see how they can improve on the Lord except with a different, hopefully equally attractive girl or two. Lastly, Copa Cabana is a good place to go. It's is in the Lord group. Not the flagship, but not as expensive, so worth checking out. And La Belle, I still have not written that place off completely because they do have some stunners there and service with a La Belle stunner can be great, say 50% of the time. The trick would be to find a great one early in your trip thus making worthwhile repeats possible.

So, have a great trip. I look forward to reading your report and seeing how you made out. I wish I was in BKK right now!

NB.[/QUOTE]Do Lord girls do CIM?

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2063121]Do Lord girls do CIM?[/QUOTE]Maybe, I don't know. CIM is not on my to do list. I much prefer CIV or CIP. 555. And I don't know with absolute certainty, but I kind of doubt anal sex is on the menu of most, if not all the Lord girls, however, several of my Lord girls initiated, all on their own,a rim job on me which led to some pretty gnarly no holes barred 69's. But I always ended with vaginal sex because that is what I like. All my Lord girls asked me to wear a condom before vaginal penetration began. I complied naturally and used Sagami 0.01 & Sagami 0.02 L for all my encounters (vaginal sex) at the Lord.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2054023]Had a short stopover in BKK back in early March and didn't have much time to look around. Headed back there for a cheap and cheerful session and picked one OK curvy 30 something MILF for the massage and Fuck. The session is actually 700 to her and I tipped her an extra 300.

Very good investment it turned out to be as she showed me on her phone, Photos of really young pretty things who will do outcall to my place ST for 2500. Most probably through an agency they would cost a lot more.

Told her straight, if girls turn out to be bait and switch or fake photos, I will send them away with no taxi money. Tried 2 girls from her phone and was very pleasantly surprised. Very good deal.

The cashier, Mamasan will also show you her collection of girls for outtcall once she recognizes your face on a return visit to the sauna.[/QUOTE]Thanks for piquing my interest!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2062532]I've searched reports from last two years. Lots of reports of these places going downhill but are pretty old reports. A quick look at websites shows many ladies right up my alley. More so Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Victoria Secret for a long time and never took a girl there, as line ups were probably too small, or maybe I took a non memorable girl and Alzheimers made me forget her quickly. I believe I never attended there late enough to give it a good chance. Was always there in daytime.

I have called in Copa Cabana recently. This place used to be one of my favourites. I can confirm that it has declined badly. Very few girls these days and weak line up. I won't waste my time to go there any more. Malibu closed completely. Emmanuelle has improved after amalgamating with Amsterdam girls. Poseidon has a reasonable sized line up. Ocean is worth a try. Good price and quite a good line up. Was less impressed by Merci (Maxi) as line up is smaller. I will also probably try Evita and Meree again because got lucky there last time. My Lord girl was disappointing but will try again.

Also looked in Hi Class recently and line up was sizeable but no quality girls at all. Rather Low Class to my eye.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2062851]Natty:

LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.

[/QUOTE]Utopia was a shop that declined badly in recent years. Some of their girls moved to sister club La Belle.

I only ever had one girl I repeated at La Belle and in the end she was no longer good enough to repeat. I am cursed with the problem of being slightly over endowed, and often meet dick scared girls in the Soapies. Also La Belle had a lot of fake surgeries girls which were not my spec, so was very common that papasan would recommend certain girls that just did not appeal to me at all. I don't like the tubs at La Belle at all. I think an Oily MP that has a Nuru body slide and Jacuzzi tub can be a good option for me. My prime concern though, as always, is to find superior looking model types that really like dick (not such an easy assignment) and can give me a real fun time. This means on finding the fun girls, I have to stick to them.

Has La Belle actually gone down hill? I think it never reached the popularity heights that the owners intended. The whole Soapy scene has declined.

Even though my first Lord girl was not GFE and I would not repeat, she was still better than plenty of La Belle girls that I tried.

I don't see any great reason for you to try other shops if you are very happy with the Lord girls.

I recommend Emmanuelle as a slightly cheaper option than the Lord, or Ocean, Meree and Evita as very cheap options for those on a budget. If the cost is not an issue, I would say stick to the Lord.

I am better off going to bars or Oilies or freelancers on the street, and choosing girls who have almost all of their customers being Farangs, because I meet less problems with being dick scared this way. Rarely even meet a girl who actually prefers my size.

Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.[/QUOTE]I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:
I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub.
Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. [/QUOTE]Unless it's a specific of a training program which few if any P4P business's in Thailand operate, kissing and hugging are far from a given no matter where you visit or how much you pay. I would say less than 20% of girls have it as part of their skill set and are disproportionately found in the so called PSE shops and with Hi end experienced escorts. Even when available it can often be so contrived as to be sexually meaningless.

No actual data to support but my sense is that culturally neither Thai girls nor Thai boys are that much into kissing even when they are in relationships.

Personally I don't look for it so no disappointment if it's not forthcoming. I prefer sucking erect nipples and clitoris's rather than tongues unless there is some semblance of genuine affection which happens with my regulars but only occasionally with a new try out.

So I would suggest not to automatically expect it, relax and don't allow its absence to detract from the enjoyment of shagging a beautiful young body that you have just paid 5800 to spend 90 minutes with.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2063311]I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.[/QUOTE]The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.

One thing I forgot to mention is that she kept looking at her phone during the session. If I had reported that, maybe they would have let me make an exchange.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063389]The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.[/QUOTE]The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063389]The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.[/QUOTE]The more a girl plays up to me, the more inclined I an to avoid her if I believe she could be putting on an act.

On other hand if a girl refuses to look at me at all that can be a bad sign. I just prefer girls that act very natural.

My philosophy is I don't want the girl to choose me. OK to give a smile but it does not prove much.

I always used to spend a lot of time watching the expressions as girls chatted to their friends sitting near by. Sometimes character can be read a little. However mostly its a gamble. Much better to have a girl sit and chat with you in a bar, my preferred method.

I have had Soapy girls that were great in the bath but on the bed became very dick scared. Hard to predict sessions really.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all downhill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob.
Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).
This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.[/QUOTE]I am really sorry to hear about your awful experience at the Lord. I gave very high marks to the Lord based on my last 7 romps, but as you and others point out, YMMV. Perhaps I received above average returns at the Lord and my score will revert to the mean in a few more visits. I sure hope not!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2063311]I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.[/QUOTE]First I look around for the girls that look good to me. Then I look for eye contact and other signs in body language that indicate the girl would like to be chosen, but I agree with Syzygies that too much effort to attract my attention is not a good sign either.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2063745]The more a girl plays up to me, the more inclined I an to avoid her if I believe she could be putting on an act.
On other hand if a girl refuses to look at me at all that can be a bad sign. I just prefer girls that act very natural. My philosophy is I don't want the girl to choose me. OK to give a smile but it does not prove much.I always used to spend a lot of time watching the expressions as girls chatted to their friends sitting nearby. Sometimes character can be read a little. However mostly its a gamble. Much better to have a girl sit and chat with you in a bar, my preferred method.

I have had Soapy girls that were great in the bath but on the bed became very dick scared. Hard to predict sessions really.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063389]The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.[/QUOTE]There is a point of no return on exchanging a girl. I think by the time you are both naked in the tub and she has your dick in her mouth, it's too late.

So, what to do if you are with a dud and it is too late to exchange her or get your money back?

First, try to turn a reluctant girl on and get her into it. Some guys are good with their fingers. I admit I don't know what I am doing down there with my hands 555. But I am a black belt at oral sex - the subtle art of cunnilingus. Now assuming the girl has a pussy I want to lick which unfortunately a majority of girls do not have IMHO, then proceed slowly, but surely to turn her on. I can't remember how many times this strategy has worked for me and turned around what would have been a mediocre session into something really good. My last such encounter occurred between myself and an 18-year-old street massage girl on Burgos in Makati. She was Miss Reluctant; no DFK, lackluster soapy shower, no nipple licking (me to her). Finally exasperated, I sat up and satirically asked her what she would like me to do and added, "would you like me to lick your pussy?" And to my surprise, the little girl nodded her head up and down and said yes. So, after inspecting her goods, I went downtown and slowly brought her to orgasm. After that I had a passionate, giving, sexy, loving, little Pinay giving her all to make me happy. 40 to 45 minutes later, after many positions and much sweat equity, I came while she was riding me Asian cowgirl and then she collapsed, the little darling on top of me. The point is it turned out to be a great session after a pretty bad start thanks to my getting her sexually aroused.

But what if the girl refuses DATY? Well in this scenario you are pretty much up shit creek without a paddle, unless you want to try the nuclear option. LOL. But before I go into the nuclear option, which is really pretty straight forward, I want to preface it with a little accounting / finance lesson I learned a long time ago about something called a SUNK COST. A sunk cost is something that you paid good money for, but you are never going get what you paid for back or recieve an appropriate return on your investment. It is lost, gone with the wind. So, forget about it. The time is not 10 minutes ago when you paid for the session at the front desk. The time is now in the loom and the question is, do you want to proceed further with a girl that is going to give you a lousy lay, or do you want to just accept your loss and leave, OR do you want to make a new attempt, a new offer in order to get something good in return out of it.

An example of the nuclear option: this happened a couple of years ago when I was in Batam, of all places. I went to one of the local bordellos where they have girls in the back. The deal is you pick a girl in the late morning, pay the all-inclusive fee, and then you have her for next 22 hours and as many shots as you can muster. So, I went to this place and picked a really sexy little Indo spinner and boys, I do mean sexy. She and another girl were the most expensive girls in the place and the price was 800,000 rp ($60). That does not sound like much, but the other girls in the place were 400,000 rp and 600,000 rp and I was paying up for the creme de la creme. Anyway, I asked the one I subsequently chose if she wanted to go with me and she smiled and said yes. So, we go back to my hotel and it is Lackluster Time. Once in the room, the girl had no enthusiasm or passion for anything: 1. No kissing on the lips. 2. We took a brief nonevent shower together. 3 She gave a very perfunctory BBBJ. And 4. I got on top of her gorgeous, sexy body and she was a total starfish, so I started losing my hard on and I pulled out after 5 or 6 minutes. She then looked up inquiringly and asked if I was done. I said yeah and I went alone to wash up in the shower while she turned on her cell phone and got immersed in it.

When I came out of the shower I sat down on the bed next to her. Remember I had the girl for the next 20 hours or so. It was way beyond the point of return. I would have just made a fool out of myself if I had marched the two of us back to her bordello and asked for my money back or an exchange. So, I sat down on the bed next to her and told her I really liked her, and asked her why didn't she like me? She looked up and said, "I like you" and I said ok, but I really like you. Why you no like me as much as I like you? You know, yada yada yada stuff. Then I got the inspiration to go nuclear! So, I say to her, if you make love to me like you really like me, like I am your boyfriend, I will give you a big tip! And she suddenly looks up from her phone and for the 1st time in our relationship she looks truly interested in what I am saying. Her response is, "how much you give me?" and I think rapidly in my head how much I should offer this girl for a really good time. I come back with a 200,000 rp offer. She says, "no, 800,000 rp. " I counter with 400,000 rp ($30) and she agrees, but quickly adds she wants the money up front. I say I cannot and hold firm, but to close the deal I get up and retrieve 400,000 rp from the safe in the closest and show her the money which I place on the dresser next to the TV and I tell her it's hers if you make love to me like I am your boyfriend.

She agrees to the deal and I get back in bed with her, only this time it's like I am with a different girl. She goes down on me and gives me a great, deep mouth BBBJ. After a good long while she comes up and impales herself on my dick and off we go and it was GREAT! So, the end of story is we happily shagged twice under the new arrangement. At around 6 pm I asked her if she wanted to get something to eat and she declined the offer. I thought about letting her stay in the room, while I went out to eat dinner and look around, but I decided to let her go. Two very good, memorable shags from this hottie was fine for me and worth the price. Remember the true cost is not 800,000 + 400,000. The 800,000 rp was a sunk cost. I was never going to get my money's worth from that expenditure. The 400,00 rp was the cost for the great sex romp. It is not a rationalization. It is Cost Accounting 111. I still have some pictures of this little girl and the pictures don't lie. She was hot, so I am glad I went Nuclear on her. LOL. Anyway, that is final option when you are with a sexy girl that is not performing like she should and she refuses to let you lick her pussy because she does not want to get turned on. It's a personal call. I only recommend going nuclear under very specific circumstances, but it is an option and it does work.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2063398]The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.[/QUOTE]I think you are right Jimmy. Sitting with a girl you are thinking of taking upstairs and breaking the ice with her before making your final decision is a good idea. In top end Jakarta brothels like Malioboro and Alexis Hotel this type of interaction between participants is encouraged and I always take advantage of it. It works like this: the mamasan will bring 10, 20, 40, or however many girls she has to where you are seated. If you pick a girl or girls, the rest are dismissed and the mamasan or papasan will leave the two or three of you alone for a while. Then she will come back and ask if you have made a decision.

For some reason, this is not how it is done for single customers in BKK soapies per say, but that does not mean you can't do it. You should. Just tell the host or hostess to leave you alone for a while with the girl you have called down from the fishbowl so the two of you can talk. At the Lord, for example, there are plenty of plush chairs and tables scattered around the large lobby so you can order drinks and have semi private conversations. But unlike you, I never discuss specifics with a girl. I feel it harms the vibe I am trying to establish. To each his own.

Had my first ever visit to a Bangkok Oily.

Decided after RTF to try Snow White, a small selection of ladies, but I decided on Gung on website, but she pronounced as Kung.

She is in her 30's, a little chubby (I like ladies with experience) and she has a lovely, lovely smile.

Took me to the room, and went off get her tools of the trade.

Undressed me and then herself (she has twin girls) it shows, but I think motherhood makes women sexier.

Showered together, she cleaned me very sensually and then herself and we went to the bed.

My god! What an amazing blowjob, teabagging the works, working me up to finish with CIM, possibly best BJ I've ever had.

We had a cuddle and a chat (english is basic but she was lovely and friendly, giggled a lot) while I refreshed and then she popped a rubber on with deft skill and we did the beast with two back in multiple positions, missionary, cowboy, reverse cowboy and finally doggystyle whence I finally ripped the johnny off and COB.

We had 15 minutes left so she gave me a pretty good massage before another shower together where she again cleaned me gently.

I had booked an hour 1900 BHT and I tipped her 300, she was really lovely.

WIR? Yes, in fact I saw her the next day just before I flew out (tipped her with my last 500 BHT note, a lot I know but she is a solo mum), just as good if not better (chemistry) got her line, will see her next time in BKK.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063294]Natty:

I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.[/QUOTE]What really amazes me about places like the Lord is that there is even a question about the level of service. At that price point you should have a very good looking gal, who has an amazing skill set and performs like a porn star. And they probably would, if the punters were demanding it. What makes the BKK P4 P scene different from places like HK and Jakarta is the local men in those locales are far more demanding. Look at your phone or don't check off all the boxes at a HK knocking shop then the mamasan will get an earful from the customer. Have a gal working whose body has been completely ravaged by childbirth and the locals just won't put up with it. The average local and foreign punter in Thailand is just not that demanding. And I would say has gotten less and less demanding over the years I have been here. I'd be screaming bloody murder if I would have spent that kind of money and received that type of service. On the other hand, if the gals were all on the same page with the three points I listed above I would have no problem paying that amount. But rolling the dice with that kind of cash? Absolutely not. We at least not for me. I'd rather spend the money on a new pair of Japanese denim.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2063886]...And they probably would, if the punters were demanding it...[/QUOTE]How about giving us some hints how to do that, since you have so much experience in that area. When I had very poor service in the past, I just got up and left. I complained to management at times, but they don't seem to give a damn.

Regarding the Lord, I experienced both, great service and poor service, but I always moved on. No need to cry over spilled milk. What's even worse is that I have no way of knowing ahead of time.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2063886]What makes the BKK P4 P scene different from places like HK and Jakarta is the local men in those locales are far more demanding. Look at your phone or don't check off all the boxes at a HK knocking shop then the mamasan will get an earful from the customer.[/QUOTE]Slightly off-topic, but which place in Jakarta (or HK for that matter) do you think has good service? I tried the likes of King's Cross, Malio and Classic, and they are not at all great in terms of service. They do generally go through all the motions (perhaps because mamasans and customers demand it), but I can't recall having even a single girl who stood out as exceptional or memorable in terms of service in the local-dominated venues in Jakarta.

Thais are generally mellow (avoid complaining), which cuts both ways -- customers may not be as demanding, but then working girls won't complain much either and can put on a decent show of liking you even if they're not so eager.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2063886]I'd be screaming bloody murder if I would have spent that kind of money and received that type of service. On the other hand, if the gals were all on the same page with the three points I listed above I would have no problem paying that amount.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. While chemistry does not always work out, it's not rocket science for a girl to pretend to somewhat like the punter and to at least not give out that off-putting vibe of only wanting to go through her routine uninterrupted. Given the price, it really shouldn't be an issue.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2063923]Absolutely. While chemistry does not always work out, it's not rocket science for a girl to pretend to somewhat like the punter and to at least not give out that off-putting vibe of only wanting to go through her routine uninterrupted. Given the price, it really shouldn't be an issue.[/QUOTE]Really, I don't get it. Any other service or good these folks would be screaming bloody murder if it was high cost and what was delivered mediocre. Restaurant, medical care, car repairs, shoes, pants, etc. But for some reason so many punters in BKK are willing to just say, "oh well" when they walk away from an experience that cost them almost 200 USD. And the providers know this and will continue to get away with as little as they can.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2063922]Slightly off-topic, but which place in Jakarta (or HK for that matter) do you think has good service? I tried the likes of King's Cross, Malio and Classic, and they are not at all great in terms of service. They do generally go through all the motions (perhaps because mamasans and customers demand it), but I can't recall having even a single girl who stood out as exceptional or memorable in terms of service in the local-dominated venues in Jakarta.

Thais are generally mellow (avoid complaining), which cuts both ways -- customers may not be as demanding, but then working girls won't complain much either and can put on a decent show of liking you even if they're not so eager.[/QUOTE]Classic, Travel, etc. Attitudes are good, price is cheap, gals are quite good looking, very few have babies, and for the money the service is fine. When you are paying 1 k Baht or so your expectations are such. Of course Batam in its heyday was pretty great. Always had good attitudes and service from the "joints" or from Sphinx. Also have always found Indo gals to be more open and willing to experiment. They actually seem to enjoy sex; unlike so many Thai gals. Perhaps it is due to monotheism. Sex is still dirty and taboo, so it's fun. Never really run into the out of the shower with a towel shy BS in Indo either. Gals seem very comfortable in their own skin. But Jeez, Jakarta is a beating. Would not want to live there unless I had a great job and excellent expat package.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2063902]How about giving us some hints how to do that, since you have so much experience in that area. When I had very poor service in the past, I just got up and left. I complained to management at times, but they don't seem to give a damn.

Regarding the Lord, I experienced both, great service and poor service, but I always moved on. No need to cry over spilled milk. What's even worse is that I have no way of knowing ahead of time.[/QUOTE]What do I do? Depends on the circumstance. If I am at a massage joint and the gal is disengaged, I will either ask to change gal and if she balks, ask for the mamasan. I'll tell the mamasan exactly what is going on. Usually I am offered another gal. Since I never pay at oilies before the session and I am a regular customer, not ridiculously demanding (I don't look to pound a gal's keister for 90 min), and speak the language, am polite about it, they accommodate me without a problem. Twice at soapies I have had an issue. First time I made the mistake of getting dressed and going out to complain and the papasan just ignored me. Next time I called the papasan to the room and was offered a change of gal. Once at Annie's years ago I had a terrible experience and was given my money back after 15 min in the room. Kudos to them for being fair. I have changed gals when I get upstairs at an oily and the body is too damaged from childbirth. I apologize to the gal but am honest and tell her that just does not work for me. Frankly I am amazed that some of these gals are employed in MPs and oilies. If punters would not accept this, then they would not be.

With FL gals I am very clear about my expectations and if they are not being met then I tell her that I am not mad and that I don't want her to do anything she is uncomfortable with but as stated earlier I expect her to perform like she is with her BF or as if she is in a porn movie, then I simply get up, get dressed, leave 100 or so Baht on the table depending on what transpired and leave. Guys on her are always asking me if I ever have any trouble with the gals complaining about what they are remunerated in this situation and the answer is no. Why? Because I never raise my voice, never lose my temper, and make them the focus. I point out that this was her decision not mine; she has chosen not to provide the service.

At the end of the day it is your hard earned money guys. For me, I expect value for it and if I don't get it I am going to complain whether it is a restaurant meal or a sexual service. We are the customers FFS, the gals aren't doing us a favor. We are paying them; they are not paying us.

[QUOTE=Canyon;2063391]One thing I forgot to mention is that she kept looking at her phone during the session. If I had reported that, maybe they would have let me make an exchange.[/QUOTE]I have have serious issues with ladies checking their phone. If its in the middle of a two hour session when I'm taking a break its ok otherwise I tell (not ask) them to turn it off. I like the point about Sunk cost in Natty's post and I also take into account the lost opportunity cost if you are married, have a girlfriend or may be leaving soon. As I am getting older every shot has value because it takes time to rebuild my "power" so why waste it on a session that clearly turning negative.

For example, I walked out of Addict a couple of months ago after waiting 15 minutes for the girl to get her kit, then a shower as erotic as a carwash, a one minute "massage" squeezing a calf muscle while yawning and a blow job literally lasting all of 10 seconds if that. When she reached for the condom I said "We're finished, I'm out of here". She got visibly upset and said "Mister if you leave now I will have big problem". I replied "Too bad, that's your problem" and left. Her name was CC. I lost the money for 2 hours but was able to salvage the opportunity and not waste a shot and had a nice session at another shop.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2063943]What do I do?
...Since I never pay at oilies before the session and I am a regular customer, not ridiculously demanding (I don't look to pound a gal's keister for 90 min), and speak the language, am polite about it, they accommodate me without a problem. Twice at soapies I have had an issue. First time I made the mistake of getting dressed and going out to complain and the papasan just ignored me. Next time I called the papasan to the room and was offered a change of gal...Why? Because I never raise my voice, never lose my temper, and make them the focus. I point out that this was her decision not mine; she has chosen not to provide the service...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hints, but you have to admit that it's easier if you lived there and spoke the language. For folks like me who are there for a couple of weeks, with no language abilities, it is tough. The best I can do is not come back.

BTW, I have mongered in Jakarta, I liked the girls but the service was similar to Thailand. I had good service and bad service there.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2064041]I have have serious issues with ladies checking their phone. If its in the middle of a two hour session when I'm taking a break its ok otherwise I tell (not ask) them to turn it off. I like the point about Sunk cost in Natty's post and I also take into account the lost opportunity cost if you are married, have a girlfriend or may be leaving soon. As I am getting older every shot has value because it takes time to rebuild my "power" so why waste it on a session that clearly turning negative.

For example, I walked out of Addict a couple of months ago after waiting 15 minutes for the girl to get her kit, then a shower as erotic as a carwash, a one minute "massage" squeezing a calf muscle while yawning and a blow job literally lasting all of 10 seconds if that. When she reached for the condom I said "We're finished, I'm out of here". She got visibly upset and said "Mister if you leave now I will have big problem". I replied "Too bad, that's your problem" and left. Her name was CC. I lost the money for 2 hours but was able to salvage the opportunity and not waste a shot and had a nice session at another shop.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you told the mamasan exactly what transpired. If you didn't the gal will continue to get away with poor service.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2064085]Thanks for the hints, but you have to admit that it's easier if you lived there and spoke the language. For folks like me who are there for a couple of weeks, with no language abilities, it is tough. The best I can do is not come back.

BTW, I have mongered in Jakarta, I liked the girls but the service was similar to Thailand. I had good service and bad service there.[/QUOTE]I think if you are polite and do everything with a smile and don't lose your temper; then you can do the same.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2064231]Hopefully you told the mamasan exactly what transpired. If you didn't the gal will continue to get away with poor service.[/QUOTE]I could have been more diplomatic when the mamasan asked if there was a problem with the service. I replied "It was great that's why I'm leaving after 25 minutes". I have been here for 10 years and know the culture and how to behave and you would be right to criticise my response as rude and unhelpful but I doubt that they really care or would do anything to the girl. If it had been one of the shops that I frequent I may have said something but I have never had service this bad and I make allowances for a lady that may be tired, sick or have some personal problems.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2064232]I think if you are polite and do everything with a smile and don't lose your temper; then you can do the same.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with you more. Not raising your voice not showing anger remaining in good humor while explaining that what's happening or more correctly what's hot happening isn't really what you were expecting, this is the way to go.

When you have paid up front (to be avoided if possible) E. G. To an escort you might just have to put it down to experience, however at oilies and soapies you can usually negotiate a replacement if not a refund.

As advised here many times always discuss in advance and in some detail what service you want, what the fee is and how long the session is for. Thinking what is happening is love at first sight and doing this will kill the spontaneity is naive nonsense. These are working girls and they will prefer this arrangement. In my experience the girls genuinely want to give you a good time and knowing what you like and it matches their skill set relaxes everybody.

Also while not always possible to know where its headed importantly don't allow the session to proceed past the first 15 minutes or so if any of what was agreed is being reneged on or you realize she's just really not into you and shows it.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2063398]The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.[/QUOTE]Right on Jimmy Boy.

Any sign of play acting, and I am not choosing the girl. It's a lot easier to check girls out in a bar, and can find out if they prefer Farangs, big or small dick, like kissing, etc. Also I get to see if the body is fabulous, soso, or damaged. However your advice for Soapies is good.

Perhaps the Lord is guaranteeing undamaged bodies but definitely not the case in most Soapies, and I regard silicone tits as damage as well (misshaped tits). My girl at the Lord did not kiss and overall was very soso and not worth the high cost. Very white skin but I am not a skin colour bigot. I get better at the bar. I generally have had poor success rates at Soapies for years, I think generally as the girls have too much surgeries, or are used to Asian customers.

I had a good soapy session sometimes, but I think just was good luck rather than my good management.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2066306]Right on Jimmy Boy.

Any sign of play acting, and I am not choosing the girl. It's a lot easier to check girls out in a bar, and can find out if they prefer Farangs, big or small dick, like kissing, etc. Also I get to see if the body is fabulous, soso, or damaged. However your advice for Soapies is good.

Perhaps the Lord is guaranteeing undamaged bodies but definitely not the case in most Soapies, and I regard silicone tits as damage as well (misshaped tits). My girl at the Lord did not kiss and overall was very soso and not worth the high cost. Very white skin but I am not a skin colour bigot. I get better at the bar. I generally have had poor success rates at Soapies for years, I think generally as the girls have too much surgeries, or are used to Asian customers.

I had a good soapy session sometimes, but I think just was good luck rather than my good management.[/QUOTE]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2066446]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.[/QUOTE]Some girls claim they like older men. I don't know if its true. One skinny bargirl dancer in long Gun a few years backed, knocked me back, saying she hardly ever goes with customers for sex, but sometimes does, and prefers cuddly guys much fatter than me (perhaps she wanted younger as well LOL). Possibly not totally honest but I did not detect much play acting.

Some girls can be relatively straight forward and maybe too lazy to do much actual acting.

You are right that ugly girls have to give good service, otherwise they will get so little business. Repeat business becomes essential. Stunning girls don't rely on repeat business so heavily and so can get away with average to bad service.

Does not mean its impossible to find a good fun good looker. Just don't expect everything, e. G. The tits maybe real small. Any girl that is too good, just doesn't last in P4 P. They all have to have major flaws of one type or another to be left in the P4 P business, unless showing extreme independence.

Had a quick BKK trip last week end.

Day-1 - Snow White.

Took Emmy, very nice service and very friendly. Smiley face, young looking. WIR -Yes.

Day-2 Snow white, this time no one was available (1 PM) only available was Cherry, though the service level was good, not as attractive as Emmy.

Day-2 : Bamboo Massage: Girls name is. Time. No smile at the beginning, but once in to the job, she was super wet! I wanted to go for a second round, but my battery was down already with repeated action and if I get another opportunity, will definitely meet her.

Also had a couple of girls from CL, they were good.

Overall it was a very satisfying trip.

I had a look at the MP's in Soi 24/1 around 15 o'clock on Tuesday and did not see any cutie sitting in front of any shop. I had a look at Cherry's website before going there and saw a girl named May that might be worth a visit. There was just the mamasan sitting outside and once she saw me she probably recognized me from previous visits in other shops on that Soi. I remember her working previously in Boss and in one of the Ohtemachi shops. I enquired about May but unfortunately she wasn't there, but she told me that she had another girl that would do everything I want.

I asked her about the baby damage and once I was sure she is free of damage I asked to see her.

BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass.

I would recommend to let her do a massage between the 2 rounds because she is very good at it. I usually don't want any massage in these kind of places because the girls were not skilled in my past experiences, but BB really surprised me with her skills. The second round started with a long rimming with a HJ with plenty of gel. I thought that it would be difficult to make me hard again but her technique was great and I decided to not fuck her again and just to unload like this.

She gave me a good experience and so far, I've been there only twice and both times the girls were expressless downstairs and were getting better in the room. BB was very nice and friendly during the whole session. For those who know her sister (I think it was Yaya), she said that she is not in the business anymore and would probably not come back.

Price: 2300 baht for 2 hours.

WIR? Yes, she is great even though I prefer them more slim.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068022]I had a look at the MP's in Soi 24/1 around 15 o'clock on Tuesday and did not see any cutie sitting in front of any shop. I had a look at Cherry's website before going there and saw a girl named May that might be worth a visit. There was just the mamasan sitting outside and once she saw me she probably recognized me from previous visits in other shops on that Soi. I remember her working previously in Boss and in one of the Ohtemachi shops. I enquired about May but unfortunately she wasn't there, but she told me that she had another girl that would do everything I want.

I asked her about the baby damage and once I was sure she is free of damage I asked to see her.

BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass..[/QUOTE]I heard Yaya (sister) is working in Dubai or Hong Kong. I had BB on my last trip. Cute girl, good service. Usually good a A+ service. I would definitely repeat!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068022]
BB came in and was wearing a tight office style uniform that suited her very well, especially her ass. She is around 1.65 meters, not slim nor fat, tanned skin, black long hairs, no scars on the face nor on the body. I would say that she is a little bit heavier than most Thai girls but still good looking. She was not smiling at all and I had the feeling that she was not very pleased to have to service me. I decided to take her upstairs anyway as I wanted to fuck some ass and selection was looking slim in most shops at that time.

Once in the room I realized that she was very nice but just not the most expressive girl. She's got a nice big ass, nice boobs and no tummy. She went at work quickly beginning with a good BBBJ with some DT, then 69 where she got aroused pretty fast and then FS with some A+ action for a few minutes but she felt uncomfortable as she didn't go to toilet before my visit. After what she called an " accident " I had a shower waiting for her to come back, and she was good at making me wake up again but this time I didn't try to fuck her ass.

WIR? Yes, she is great even though I prefer them more slim.[/QUOTE]I had BB a few time 4 years ago, when she was fresh in the buisness. Nice and cute girl. I remember she wasn't shaved at that time. I ordered her for an outcall and bought her a shaver and shaved her good. But next time, a few months later she was not shaved again, I asked her why and she said it was so itchy after shave. I also remember she was not so fond of A+, even if mamasan stated she was. I had her for 3 hours in my hotel room, and after a couple of hours she became sleepy. I took out a clit vibrator and tried on her and she became totally wild again!! It's always a good idea to bring a small clit vibrator, most girls seems to enjoy them!!

[QUOTE=DextroSol;2068381] I remember she wasn't shaved at that time. I ordered her for an outcall and bought her a shaver and shaved her good. But next time, a few months later she was not shaved again, I asked her why and she said it was so itchy after shave. I also remember she was not so fond of A+, even if mamasan stated she was.[/QUOTE]She was still not shaved, maybe just trimmed, I don't remember very well but it was not a jungle down there. And I agree about the A+, I think she just offers it to please her customers. I recently had a look at their website and found her more attractive in real life than on their pictures.

[QUOTE=Soroche;2066446]I think they are all play acting and just like Hollywood actors, some are better at it than others. I can't visualize a beautiful, 20 year old with a perfect body becoming really excited to kiss our 60+ year old faces attached to a probably overweight body. Your point about being able to check out their bodies is certainly true and if what you need is looks over performance I guess bars are the way to go. However, I value performance over looks and find the best results for me have been at the massage shops like Tulip, Snow White, Mango where the ladies are older and maybe not as attractive but provide good service. I generally find and inverse relationship of beauty and price to service.[/QUOTE]I actually want looks and a good performance, however does not have to be a pornstar for me. Fortunately I don't need anal since it is very rarely offered to me. Each to their own style. I collect good looker regulars to repeat often, so very few bad sessions that way. My list of regulars has dwindled badly, unfortunately to about 3 or 4.

I know Emmy at SW is good and very enthusiastic, and I was one of the first to review her years ago, but I am still not motivated since perhaps the looks are a bit too ordinary (including the nose). Just my problem with finding hot girls for my spec.

I have to get very lucky indeed to find cheap price, good looker and good performance. Happens occasionally but those girls never last long. I could get lucky a budget Soapy occasionally, however the girl will obviously not be absolute top looks and service for that price.

Plenty of times I have to be prepared to miss out, if just cannot find any girl suitable available at the time, and don't want to take the risk to try a new one.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2068400]She was still not shaved, maybe just trimmed, I don't remember very well but it was not a jungle down there. And I agree about the A+, I think she just offers it to please her customers. I recently had a look at their website and found her more attractive in real life than on their pictures.[/QUOTE]Yes, trimmed is more accurate, there was for sure no jungle down there. .

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2068832]I actually want looks and a good performance, however does not have to be a pornstar for me. Fortunately I don't need anal since it is very rarely offered to me. Each to their own style. I collect good looker regulars to repeat often, so very few bad sessions that way. My list of regulars has dwindled badly, unfortunately to about 3 or 4.

I know Emmy at SW is good and very enthusiastic, and I was one of the first to review her years ago, but I am still not motivated since perhaps the looks are a bit too ordinary (including the nose). Just my problem with finding hot girls for my spec.

I have to get very lucky indeed to find cheap price, good looker and good performance. Happens occasionally but those girls never last long. I could get lucky a budget Soapy occasionally, however the girl will obviously not be absolute top looks and service for that price.

Plenty of times I have to be prepared to miss out, if just cannot find any girl suitable available at the time, and don't want to take the risk to try a new one.[/QUOTE]Emmy is very perfect girel, I can vouch based on my last week experience! She looks a bit Korean by the way.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2068832]I actually want looks and a good performance, however does not have to be a pornstar for me. Fortunately I don't need anal since it is very rarely offered to me. Each to their own style. I collect good looker regulars to repeat often, so very few bad sessions that way. My list of regulars has dwindled badly, unfortunately to about 3 or 4.

I know Emmy at SW is good and very enthusiastic, and I was one of the first to review her years ago, but I am still not motivated since perhaps the looks are a bit too ordinary (including the nose). Just my problem with finding hot girls for my spec.

I have to get very lucky indeed to find cheap price, good looker and good performance. Happens occasionally but those girls never last long. I could get lucky a budget Soapy occasionally, however the girl will obviously not be absolute top looks and service for that price.

Plenty of times I have to be prepared to miss out, if just cannot find any girl suitable available at the time, and don't want to take the risk to try a new one.[/QUOTE]I guess there can be a bit of a dilemma balancing looks over service. When I first came to Thailand I would go for the youngest and most beautiful women and that was ok for a while because everything was new and exciting. However, a couple of years latter in the middle of an indifferent blow job from one of these beauties I found myself thinking about where I was going to have lunch when this was over! I decided it was time to try something new and via ISG discovered Mango, Tulip, SW and similar venues. Now in some cases the ladies may not have been as attractive as those in the go go bars and maybe 10 years older but in no way ugly. However, the attitude and level of service was much better and there were a lot more options on the table. Wan at Mango provided my first true PSE and I decided that was where I got the most bang for my buck so to speak. Thanks for the tip about Emmy.

I've been doing a lot of Club 102 lately, always to satisfaction, but I was looking to rotate out for once.

I have been at Analisa when it was in Soi 22. Very far from BTS. Then it just closed off for no reason. Now appears it's back in business near Nana BTS.

Indeed very close to BTS, so practical! I went there and asked for a PM. Not an usual thing, but as I said just for a change. I started to ask for 1 h30 as in Club 102, but the Mamasan said I'd be worn out after 1 h30 of PM, and she probably was right, so I setlled for 1 hour. See, they're not always greedily trying to maximize their revenue. They care about customer experience.

As I was eyeing all the girls, there were quite a few that looked OK, in an older / jaded but skinny and do-able kind of way. The advantage of a PM is that you're not actually making love to the girl, so her looks are less important. Skill is important, though.

They wheeled in a younger one. She was not super skinny, but she was acceptable. Her name was Cake. I'd give her 23 years old roughly.

We went to the room and is was much higher quality than I expected. Clean, tidy, spacious, good sound insulation. Not Club 102 level, but much better than your average MP joint. Even the floor-communal shower was pretty decent quality.

What can I say about the experience? Well, she really knew what she was doing. It became quite intense. I really enjoyed myself. It is nice to be in good hands. I tipped her 200 Baht for her troubles.

Would I recommend? Absolutely if it so happens that you're in the mood for a PM rather than FS on that given day. Would I repeat? Not soon, as I generally prefer FS, Jacuzzi, foam, etc, but definitely in the future when I urge for a change. When I walked out, there were quite a few do-able girls, so maybe not Cake, besides who knows when she's available or not. But I like the new Analisa!

[QUOTE=Zam007;2034601]I turned around And walked in Addict Massage, I was shown more girls and the girls in front were also called in, (Standard Procedure as you all know). Then I selected the girl who first caught my eyes, whose name was Ann. Pretty face, slim body, small tits which I didn't mind. I selected 2 hours I guess. She was really playful. I like it. She was constantly teasing me like she knew me. After the initial cuddles, kisses and foreplay with Gel applied all over the body, some slipping and sliding, I took control of the show and made it like a porn scene. I carried her to the bed and fucked her in missionary position. She really loved it and the best part is she had a decent stamina, I fucked her in missionary position for about 10 minutes, then I fucked her sideways, she took it like a champ. I really wanted her ass, and I knew she doesn't do A-levels, but it was OK, I put her in doggy and kept teasing and her anus while I banged her, I made it lose enough, she enjoyed it, as I pounded, I put 2 fingers in and she didn't say a word initially, but later she said she cannot do anal, I said it was ok and then I just put my thumb in her ass and pounded fast, it took nearly 45 minutes for me to cum..[/QUOTE]I can confirm almost everything on the report above, except that I would not give her a 8 and 9 on looks and body and I didn't experience her massage skills. She's got a nice face but hide some minor scars behind her make up, no braces, no crooked teeth. Her body is very beautiful and fit, especially her ass. She's got some very small baby damage, just stretch marks on both sides of her belly, but I don't think many guys would be disappointed by her body. Her pussy is not as tight as I like them though. She is not even 20 but loves the sexual act. No fear to receive a CBJ or a crap session with her. She is very friendly and surely one of the most talkative girl that I've met in any oily.

Addict has updated their website, you can see what she looks like, she is in real life as she appears on her pic. She has got many regular customers and it looks like she value them so it might be hard to spot her in the line up. I've been there 3 times and the 2 first times, she was already busy upstairs while the third time she didn't arrive yet.

On a note side I felt that addict staff were a lot friendlier than my past experiences there, it might be due to the recent competition from the next door club 102. Ann had still 30 minutes before finishing her session and they offered me to stay downstairs and wait on the couch. I had plenty of time to look at their other girls and I saw two that I could easily go for (Michelle who looks like a pretty Indian styled girl (she doesn't look like the Michelle that is on their website) and New (Blond long hairs, very cute face, slim but has baby damage and very big false boobs). In half an hour at around 5 pm the lineup has been produced only once, every other guys that entered the shop had already booked their girls, and all were asian guys. Once I finished my session with Ann, there was a heavy rain outside and the soi was completely flooded. I stayed there 30 more minutes with the other Asians customers, one of the girls went to buy rain coats to a group of them, the poor girl came back completely wet. Ann offered to take her umbrella and took me to the bts nearby, I believe that she is really a very nice girl. Treat her well guys, as she is beautiful, very nice and tries to please her customers.

Price: 2400 for a 2 hours massage.

WIR? Yes I did and she was great the second time also.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2070813]

Addict has updated their website, you can see what she looks like, she is in real life as she appears on her pic. She has got many regular customers and it looks like she value them so it might be hard to spot her in the line up. I've been there 3 times and the 2 first times, she was already busy upstairs while the third time she didn't arrive yet.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!

I went on their site looking for Ann but did not find her pics.

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/272776/STAFF.html[/URL]

Plenty of lookers on the site though. I may have to give Addicts a try.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2070888]Thanks for the report!

I went on their site looking for Ann but did not find her pics.

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/272776/STAFF.html[/URL]

Plenty of lookers on the site though. I may have to give Addicts a try.[/QUOTE]Looks like they have multiple versions of their website. She is listed in the one below.

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136[/URL]

Regards,

A.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2070888]Thanks for the report!

I went on their site looking for Ann but did not find her pics.

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/272776/STAFF.html[/URL]

Plenty of lookers on the site though. I may have to give Addicts a try.[/QUOTE]Here is the correct link for their staff updated:

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136[/URL]

Boosted by Zam007's recent report, I decided to swing back into Addict for once.

Gone is the old reception room. You've got to go upstairs. Super cramped for 30+ girls. Nonetheless, I approve of managers investing money into bettering the premises through temporary renovation work. And the cramped premises lent a naughty air of unusualness where, in the end, it was easier to make a choice out of the line-up, because we basically sniff each others' pheromones.

I picked an amazingly good-looking girl who currently goes by the moniker "Nana". As in Nana Plaza, get it? I bet she was a go-go girl before. She's definitely got the body for it. Quite tall, 1 m67.27 years old but looks like 24. No stretch marks, tattoos, piercings or braces. She's a perfect 8+. Probably 44 kilos: not an ounce of fat on her body, and great waist-to-hip ratio. From Isaan but fairly light skin compared to her comrades-in-arms. Natural A+ boobs. If she passed an IQ test I'd impregnate her.

Anyway, the service was amazing. Great eye contact. Great sensuality. Great BBBJ. I had wanked off and drunken alcohol earlier, so I was sure I could get it up but not so sure I could ejaculate. She took care of all that and I had a most satisfactory completion.

WIR? Y WIR? Y

Sometimes I don't really report on my best experiences because I'm afraid the girls will be taken over, but at this point I expect a girl of this quality has duration expectancy at an oily of 3 weeks before she gets a nice apartment and a comfortable monthly salary for doing next to nothing from an Asian guy, let's be realistic. So I don't care.

[QUOTE=AdaeLover;2058625]I read quite some time ago about some ball massage, so I did some search in the page. I found Hana massage and Rin as the master of place.

So I went to google maps and showed Hana massage in SKV Soi 63. The website of Hana massage was updated in 2006. But it said SKV Soi 22. I sent an email to the e-mail on the website to reserve Rin (If she still was there) but bounced. It was time to make a decision between google or a massage parlour that does not update the info. So I went with option 2.

Following a very old map that refers to a hotel that is closed I passed the Marriott on Soi 22 and then in the 3rd small Soi, I saw the sign I was looking for. Hana massage, still open. And once I went in, Rin was also there. Lucky day, it must be because the alcohol was forbidden.

I went to the room and took a shower. Rin walked in and did not take her clothes off. Started to give a fairly ok massage all over the place, until it got to the balls! It surely was something different that I had experienced so far, in a good way.

Damage was 1,500 RMB for 2 hours (I gave some small tip). WIR: Probably not anytime soon, many things to try. But if you are in a 'lazy day" and you want to try something a bit different and you do not mind the looks and care only about service it could be a choice for you. I would not take the 2 hours session, probably with one you will get all you need to experience (just less normal massage).[/QUOTE]Rin skills haven't diminished with time but her looks surely have take a hard hit. She remains the "master" of ball massage in BKK everything else keep your eyes shut.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2070952]Here is the correct link for their staff updated:

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136[/URL][/QUOTE]Nowadays it's near pointless looking at enhanced pics of the girls to get an idea of what they look like. Hell I used an app on a recent shot of myself and I didn't recognize the handsome smooth skinned no wrinkled bright eyed Adonis beaming back at me.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2071020]Boosted by Zam007's recent report, I decided to swing back into Addict for once.

SNIP

Sometimes I don't really report on my best experiences because I'm afraid the girls will be taken over, but at this point I expect a girl of this quality has duration expectancy at an oily of 3 weeks before she gets a nice apartment and a comfortable monthly salary for doing next to nothing from an Asian guy, let's be realistic. So I don't care.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks!

Sorry to break the news but it is Western men who end up blowing money on these chicks trying to ring-fence them. UK tops the charts followed by Nordic countries, other Europeans, then the Aussies with the Americans rounding off the top 10. True story!

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2071020]

I picked an amazingly good-looking girl who currently goes by the moniker "Nana". As in Nana Plaza, get it? I bet she was a go-go girl before. She's definitely got the body for it. Quite tall, 1 m67.27 years old but looks like 24. No stretch marks, tattoos, piercings or braces. She's a perfect 8+. Probably 44 kilos: not an ounce of fat on her body, and great waist-to-hip ratio. From Isaan but fairly light skin compared to her comrades-in-arms. Natural A+ boobs. If she passed an IQ test I'd impregnate her. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Eric Swiss. Looking at Addict girls on their website I have seen a Nan and Nane. Nan seems to look good but might have more than just A+ cup even though you don't need photoshop to make tits look bigger.

Seems that the interaction was more than satisfying so I'm interested to give her a try later. As all these names look so similar I just wanted to check this with you.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2071310]

Sorry to break the news but it is Western men who end up blowing money on these chicks trying to ring-fence them. UK tops the charts followed by Nordic countries, other Europeans, then the Aussies with the Americans rounding off the top 10. True story![/QUOTE]Yep, I know of a girl who worked on the till in Soi 7/1 who had 3 guys from overseas sending her money, around 10,000 baht each. She just worked there so she didn't get bored, never went home with anyone, she just wasn't interested and didn't need to money. This was a few years ago now, but I don't think this is uncommon.

Saw a girl at 101 premiere and was going to go up, but had to wait 30+ minutes for a room to be available. Also the downstairs very crowded with asian and western punters. Place must be good if it's that busy and people are waiting. ?

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2071358]Yep, I know of a girl who worked on the till in Soi 7/1 who had 3 guys from overseas sending her money, around 10,000 baht each. She just worked there so she didn't get bored, never went home with anyone, she just wasn't interested and didn't need to money. This was a few years ago now, but I don't think this is uncommon.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is very common. Poor schmucks keep wiring money down here thinking the chick isn't working the circuit. There is no such thing as too much money for a Thai girl.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2071310]Great report, thanks!

Sorry to break the news but it is Western men who end up blowing money on these chicks trying to ring-fence them. UK tops the charts followed by Nordic countries, other Europeans, then the Aussies with the Americans rounding off the top 10. True story![/QUOTE]When it comes to sponsoring I agree with you. When it comes to one off sessions, Asians pay more. And they really don't try to bargain the price down. That is the issue.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2071612]When it comes to sponsoring I agree with you. When it comes to one off sessions, Asians pay more. And they really don't try to bargain the price down. That is the issue.[/QUOTE]And both practices screw the market in their own ways. And probably that is why the girls who are in the game prefer Asians and the ones looking to retire from trade look for farangs.

I plan to go to Bangkok t the end of this mounth, and to visit Cherrymassage.

Did someone had a recent experience with Kiwi and Yok.

I will be interesting by booking both for an outcall in my hotel.

Thanks for your feedback.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2071612]When it comes to one off sessions, Asians pay more. And they really don't try to bargain the price down. That is the issue.[/QUOTE]

For certain types of East Asians on a night out, paying a fancy hooker is about their own face and ego, not about getting the most bang for the buck. Seen from that perspective, paying more gives them more face, regardless of what the session is like.

Many Farang punters, on the other hand, try to buy love, and to feel like they're the one special snowflake, and that's the only reason sponsorship makes sense for them.