[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1611672]Of course the jews started this silly monotheistic faith and the muslims just built on it some further silliness.[/QUOTE]Do you prefer multi-theistic religions? I am non-religious but I let people be. To each his own.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1611672]Of course the jews started this silly monotheistic faith and the muslims just built on it some further silliness.[/QUOTE]Do you prefer multi-theistic religions? I am non-religious but I let people be. To each his own.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1611546]
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It has no medical or practical value whatsoever. Most western countries are deeply rooted in Christianity and that is why it was common practice before. These days it is not as common as it once was because medical personnel woke up and realized it served no purpose but to torment the shit out of babies and young boys. If it was meant for your dick to be partially cut off then you would have been born that way.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree on the medical and practical value. I was circumcised at age 40 for medical reasons. It was a painless operation and I am completely satisfied with the result. Two weeks after the operation sex was allowed again (the stitches had been removed) and it was better than before the operation.
[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1611887]Do you prefer multi-theistic religions? I am non-religious but I let people be. To each his own.[/QUOTE]I am an atheist buddhist and an ordained priest of the Church of the Latter Day Dude. And I try to convince people to give up believing in gods. Religion (in the sense of believing in gods, especially if it are montheistic gods) on the balance did more bad than good. So "letting people be" will perpetuate the badness.
Can anyone give their recommendations on their top three favourite restaurants in Pattaya?
It is one piece of information I did not have with me on last years trip, and I felt at a loss without it.
I did make it to Raan Derm on Soi 22 in Bangkok and loved it.
I would be looking for similar type restaurants in Pattaya for this years trip.
Thanks in advance.
JoS
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1611795]This was my sentiment when I visited Pattaya. I could not believe the lack of good looking girls available. As I noted in one of my Sosua reports, I saw more prettier faces in one night's visit to a bar than spending a week in Pattaya. I was not too keen on the attitude of some of these Pattaya girls either. Plan to return in February, but instead of spending two weeks, I decided to spend a week in A / see and only a week in Pattaya instead. I was so disappointed with Pattaya that I want to see what Philippines has to offer.[/QUOTE]I am heading to the Philippines for the first time next week, just spending 4 days there before heading to Thailand (Pattaya). It will be interesting to compare Philippines to Thailand.
I have been going to Pattaya for the past 3 years and have had all in all a pretty good time there. In regards to the girls you can still find some real gems there, I find going to Pattaya in the low-season is the best time to go for finding more good looking girls, as there are less customers booking them up and taking them away early.
After I return from the Philippines I will let you guys know what I think of the place compared to Thailand.
Suave and debonair as ever, Mr. Bumpo had this riposte to several cranky posts from an "Old Bugger" heaping abuse upon just about everything and everybody in Pattaya:
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]The Walking Street you describe is the exact opposite of the real Walking Street. You write that there are no pretty young girls on Walking Street. Are you fucking kidding? Did you check out any of the quality go go clubs? There are some really hot young girls to be had on Walking Street. The short time price is 2000 baht to 2500 plus a variable barfine (1500 before midnight and 600 after). Soi 6 has some reasonably attractive and friendly girls for a more economic price. The price is 700 to 1000 for short time (on the premises) and 300 for the room, plus drinks. I agree with you, however, that Pattaya massage parlors are a big miss. The quality is not very good.[/QUOTE]I suspect Mr. Bugger might be a big consumer of porn. I don't suggest that's a bad thing. (g) But guys who watch a lot of porn get *VERY* hung up on looks. That's understandable, given that porn is almost entirely a visual medium. (Yes I know some auteurs try to do more than film hot people fucking. But the economics of the adult video industry just don't support their efforts.) When a guy is totally focused on looks, it's easy for him to find fault with the girls he sees in Pattaya's punter havens. There is no way these women are going to be as hot as the civilian hotties he admires on the BTS in Bangkok, or the supermodels he ogles online or the high society sweeties standing next to the sports cars at the auto show. Soon it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because the guy pays more attention to the fuglies than to the better looking girls.
As everybody knows, the brain is the major sex organ. So guys who focus entirely on looks miss out on other aspects of the Pattaya scene that most of us find exciting. They ignore the beach vibe, the energy that comes from so many people on holiday and the sheer scale of the naughty boy industry. Worst of all, they miss out on simple human interaction with other people on vacation and the Thai people, especially the girls who are in the game so to speak. Are they absolute knockouts? Of course not. But as Mr. Bumpo notes the go go clubs are full of young women who are very attractive indeed. I'll bet that if Mr. Bugger got outside his head for a few minutes he'd have a good time hooking up with them. It's rather like going to the movies. You've got to suspend your disbelief. I don't think my short time sweetie is a perfect ten any more than I think Bruce Willis can defeat a terrorist gang single-handed. But for a few hours I'm willing to go with it. I think if Mr. Bugger gave the curmudgeon act a rest he might have some fun too.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1611765]That is exactly the point. It was done to you without any input from your side. It should be forbidden to do such things to someone that cannot be turned back.
Same same for religion: most, if not all, religions are based upon the "catch them while they're young" principle, since next to no-one who can think it through without the juvenile brainwashing will join a religion.[/QUOTE]You are right, but in life sometimes we need help even when we do not what it? We make decisions for our kids even when it is painful and they have no idea why we are doing it?
As for turning back? Until there are discussion like this to this day I do not remember the pain the crying anything when it was done and like I said I'm more than happy with the way it looks and especially the way it works.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1611767]I don't want to contradict the CDC, but the "American" tradition of circumcision certainly predates the knowledge of its benefiits. So those benefits are just a happy coincidence and an [i]a posteriori[/i] explanation.
And the "hygiene" aspect has always been false. There is no difference between a circumsized or an uncircumsized cock as far as hygiene is concerned. Both will need some water and soft soap to stay clean, and perhaps even soap is not really necessary.[/QUOTE]American circumcision certainly predates the knowledge of the benefits. OP stated there was NO benefit whatsoever. I simply stated that there is now proof of such.
I will respectfully disagree with your hygiene opinion. I understand it's slightly more work to keep the uncircumcised units clean, and I've certainly met more than one lady who disliked giving BBBJ to uncut men due to their hygiene issues. I personally have little experience, being an American. However, I think the cut units "look" better. For whatever THAT'S worth. LOL.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1611918]Can anyone give their recommendations on their top three favourite restaurants in Pattaya?
It is one piece of information I did not have with me on last years trip, and I felt at a loss without it.
I did make it to Raan Derm on Soi 22 in Bangkok and loved it.
I would be looking for similar type restaurants in Pattaya for this years trip.
Thanks in advance.
JoS[/QUOTE]It might help you if you gave what price but of course more detail in terms of what you are looking can answer your question better. What type of food etc.
Sorry but don't do Bangkok much so a place like Raan Derm does not help for someone like myself?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1612074]It might help you if you gave what price but of course more detail in terms of what you are looking can answer your question better. What type of food etc.
Sorry but don't do Bangkok much so a place like Raan Derm does not help for someone like myself?[/QUOTE]Thanks LittleBigMan.
Not trying to be funny, but I am looking for ideas across all prices and all types of food.
If I can get a couple of suggestions (peoples favourite 3) then I can then do a bit more research and decide which I might enjoy most.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1612155]Thanks LittleBigMan.
Not trying to be funny, but I am looking for ideas across all prices and all types of food.
If I can get a couple of suggestions (peoples favourite 3) then I can then do a bit more research and decide which I might enjoy most.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I got sorted with a bundle of info that should keep me busy for a while.
Cheers
I read that it's best to not bother BF'ing a girl to take to the beach; that girls are plentyful there. Any thoughts on this? We arrive on Saturday. Cheers.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1612155]Thanks LittleBigMan.
Not trying to be funny, but I am looking for ideas across all prices and all types of food.
If I can get a couple of suggestions (peoples favourite 3) then I can then do a bit more research and decide which I might enjoy most.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]My 3 favorite places to dine all have the same name, they are all called Dining at the why, not hard to find in in Pattsville, various franchises all around town, even more the 711's. P.S. The letter would not upload so that the reason for the word why showing instead.
One of my main wingmen screwed up:
Him: I was at the golf club with xxxx a few days ago. Saw a chick I thought looked tight at devils den. Pointed her out to xxxx and thought nothing of it. Next thing I know the security from devils den gave me a phone number. It was her. She said she wanted to see me but would be morning yesterday. I thought she was full of shit so I got someone Sunday night. I'll be damned if she didn't call. So I apologized and said I'd be available this morning.
Me: Damn. That is sweet.
Him: She just left. Got mad when I mentioned money.
Me: Mannn. Why you do that shit.
Him: Being stupid. She was cool too. Was shy at first but opened up. [b]Said she's on her way with the dd van to pick up a customer. Said they normally don't fuck on the way from BKK to Pattaya. Just BJ.[/b] Told me she went to 808 just to see black dudes. But too shy to approach. I asked why me. Said she saw me so much at golf club she didn't want to pass it up.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades]Can anyone give their recommendations on their top three favourite restaurants in Pattaya? Not trying to be funny, but I am looking for ideas across all prices and all types of food.[/QUOTE]Cheap Eats:
Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or the Apex Hotel, at roughly 150 baht. You won't find haute cuisine at either place, but you will be able to chow down on a wide variety of food, both western and Thai. The dining area at the Lek Hotel is a little more exposed to the elements, so it's nice during the temperate months and you can eat poolside. The dining room at the Apex Hotel is a little more enclosed (although there is a poolside section) so it's better when it's raining. For those of you who might like to get a little work done, the Apex Hotel has free wi-fi (which can be a bit fiddly).
The night market, west side of Soi Buakaow, opposite Soi 21. This is entirely Thai food, sold from hawker stalls. You eat under a tent at long communal tables. The fare here is basic and hearty and incredibly cheap. You really have to work to spend 200 baht. I like the charcoal grilled whole fish with a salt crust. If you'd like beer, there is a 7-11 across the street. This place gets going about 1600 and for the next two hours it's packed with working girls getting a bit before a long evening. In the same vein, there are hawker stalls on the south side of Soi 15, just east of Walking Street. (About 10 meters from the Sapphire Club.) The variety isn't as good as at the night market, but the convenience can't be beat.
Pub grub at The Butcher's Arms or the Swann Pub. The former is on the east side of Soi Buakaow, about 100 meters south of the night market. The latter is on the south side of Soi 13/1 (formerly known as the Ritz Pub) between Beach Road and Second Road. The Butcher's Arms has a very comfortable dining room with proper tables and booths that's air conditioned. Excellent for when you're seeking a break from the heat and humidity. The former has a smaller al fresco dining room on a quiet soi. Both have free wi-fi and the Butcher's plays some nice 80's music.
No-Name Open Air Restaurant Near the Butcher's Arms: This place is on the west side of Soi Buakhow, but set back from the street about 30 meters, in the middle of a big vacant lot. It doesn't look like much, but give it a try for great Thai food served by a cheerful staff at low prices.
More upscale:
The lunch buffet at the Hilton Hotel dining room. A little bit spendy, but superb food. Go to the hotel's web site to the see the menu, which changes from day to day.
my phi fwb and i are arriving into pattaya in 6 days. we have an action packed week planned and are looking for joiners male and female. she has certain [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and 2 men fantasies and i am cool with that and i of course like most things. pm me and we can meet for a beer and if she says go your in, bring a date! the more the merrier!
i am 50 and in good shape she is 30 and as fuckable as can be with a very open mind!
we look forward to meet like minded folks fr entertainment purposes.
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[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1611496]Looks like mr enternational has a tiny bit of antisemitism in him as well as ignorance. He seems to be unaware that it is also a muslim tradition and that it is not unknown in western countries either. I'm Dutch and circumcised.
Regards,
Ko.[/QUOTE]In no way shape or form is this comment racial. It is his opinion, I also had no idea what religions or cultures deemed circumcision a requirement. I would have shared his opinion because I learned from the Simpsons that Jewish people are prone to this.
Keep your racist shit off this board please.
Fucking has no religion.
PP.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1612790]I read that it's best to not bother BF'ing a girl to take to the beach; that girls are plentyful there. Any thoughts on this? We arrive on Saturday. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Who told you this nonsense? Jomtien is a nice beach, but mainly a family beach with lots of Russian or Ukrainian families spending some quality time there. Of course you can try your luck with the Russian or Ukrainian chicks but their husbands / boyfriends may not be very happy with this and many of them are stoutly built and are seemingly devoid of humour.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1613129]In no way shape or form is this comment racial. It is his opinion, I also had no idea what religions or cultures deemed circumcision a requirement. I would have shared his opinion because I learned from the Simpsons that Jewish people are prone to this.
[/QUOTE]OMB, is this what US education has come to? The Simpsoms as the fountain of knowledge?
[QUOTE=Bunky;1613038]Cheap Eats:
Breakfast buffet at the Lek Hotel or the Apex Hotel, at roughly 150 baht. You won't find haute cuisine at either place, but you will be able to chow down on a wide variety of food, both western and Thai. The dining area at the Lek Hotel is a little more exposed to the elements, so it's nice during the temperate months and you can eat poolside. The dining room at the Apex Hotel is a little more enclosed (although there is a poolside section) so it's better when it's raining. For those of you who might like to get a little work done, the Apex Hotel has free wi-fi (which can be a bit fiddly).
The night market, west side of Soi Buakaow, opposite Soi 21. This is entirely Thai food, sold from hawker stalls. You eat under a tent at long communal tables. The fare here is basic and hearty and incredibly cheap. You really have to work to spend 200 baht. I like the charcoal grilled whole fish with a salt crust. If you'd like beer, there is a 7-11 across the street...[/QUOTE]Thank you kindly sir. I am hungry already.
J.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1613158]OMB, is this what US education has come to? The Simpsoms as the fountain of knowledge?[/QUOTE]If I were American I would probably take this as some kind of antisemitism.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1613156]Who told you this nonsense? Jomtien is a nice beach, but mainly a family beach with lots of Russian or Ukrainian families spending some quality time there. Of course you can try your luck with the Russian or Ukrainian chicks but their husbands / boyfriends may not be very happy with this and many of them are stoutly built and are seemingly devoid of humour.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm, ok. Is there a better beach to go to that Pattaya Beach? I heard Jomtien was the best beach in the area. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1613189]Hmmmm, ok. Is there a better beach to go to that Pattaya Beach? I heard Jomtien was the best beach in the area. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go to the end of Bali Hai pier, which is at the end of Walking Street and take the ferry 45 minutes to Koh Larn (Coral Island) for 30 baht. When you get there hop on a motorbike taxi and have him take you 7 minutes to Samae Beach for 50 baht. That is the best beach in the area (for now, because they are in the process of building boat docks right on the beach to fuck it all up.) Have the motorbike taxi return for you at 5 pm. The last boat back to Pattaya is at 6 pm. BYOB. Bring Your Own Broad.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades]Thank you kindly sir. I am hungry already.[/QUOTE]One more suggestion for Mr. Spades.
Pattaya has numerous seafood restaurants that all use the same concept. The diner chooses raw seafood for a massive display. They have all manner of shellfish on ice. They have live lobsters. They have live fish swimming in tanks. Unlike in other restaurants where the diner chooses a certain dish, in these places the diner chooses the actual main ingredient, which is priced according to weight. After the staff weighs the main ingredient, the diner chooses the manner of preparation and any side dishes he desires. So if the choice is prawns, for example, there umpty-eleven ways to have it prepared.
There are several of these seafood restaurants on the west side of Walking Street, some of them quite lavish. As you stroll by you can look at the amazing variety of seafood on display. The dining areas usually overlook the water. These restaurants do a good job, but they cater to tourists and they are rather expensive. You can easily spend 2000 baht per diner (especially if you let a hungry Thai girl do the ordering). For some of you Two Week Millionaires money is no object. So if you're looking to splash out, these restaurants are a good way to do it.
If you'd like the same food at much lower prices, you have several alternatives. On Soi 15, just east of Walking Street, there are a couple hawker stalls that operate on the same system. One on the north side of the street that's a little larger with its own dining area, and one on the south side that uses the communal tables. The seafood selection isn't as vast as the nearby palaces, but it's adequate. And you'll save serious money. My only complaint is that there is limited seating and sometimes at busy times you have to wait.
You can solve that problem by continuing south on Walking Street to Soi Marine. It's down at the south end, nearl the Maine Disco. (Naturally.) Go east on Soi Marine for about 50 meters and you'll come to a little open air plaza. There are two choose-which-fish-dies restaurants there. I can recommend the larger one, which has a large kitchen, big signage and a big open air dining area. They have an excellent selection of seafood there, prepared a zillion different ways, for prices that are way cheaper than the fancy competitors up the street. They sell beer, but I've never been hassled for bringing my own from the 7-11.
Finally, there are other restaurants using this concept elsewhere in town. There is a rather large place on the west side of Second Road, somewhere in the vicinity of Central Pattaya Road. I've never dined there, but it looks popular with the locals.
Bon appetit!
Bunky
What do the girls waiting along beach road do when it rains, especially in the rainy season when it comes down more frequently?
[QUOTE=Bunky;1613427]One more suggestion for Mr. Spades.
Pattaya has numerous seafood restaurants that all use the same concept. The diner chooses raw seafood for a massive display. They have all manner of shellfish on ice. They have live lobsters. They have live fish swimming in tanks. Unlike in other restaurants where the diner chooses a certain dish, in these places the diner chooses the actual main ingredient, which is priced according to weight. After the staff weighs the main ingredient, the diner chooses the manner of preparation and any side dishes he desires. So if the choice is prawns, for example, there umpty-eleven ways to have it prepared.
There are several of these seafood restaurants on the west side of Walking Street, some of them quite lavish. As you stroll by you can look at the amazing variety of seafood on display. The dining areas usually overlook the water. These restaurants do a good job, but they cater to tourists and they are rather expensive. You can easily spend 2000 baht per diner (especially if you let a hungry Thai girl do the ordering). For some of you Two Week Millionaires money is no object. So if you're looking to splash out, these restaurants are a good way to do it...[/QUOTE]Some very good information, and I like to have options if my budget allows for splashing out, or if my budget demands I slow things down.
If you are anywhere near Pattaya in November, I owe you at least a beer.
Muchas gracias,
JOS
[QUOTE=Tiger888;1613188]If I were American I would probably take this as some kind of antisemitism.[/QUOTE]Not an American!
PP.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1613535]What do the girls waiting along beach road do when it rains, especially in the rainy season when it comes down more frequently?[/QUOTE]They run across the street and get under the shelter of the buildings that are there.
dearest colleagues!
just sitting down to write the trip report from my last trip: aug 11-24. sorry for the delay. i did to have much time to write during the trip as it was more of a working vacation. work in the day (afternoon really. after my lady for the night left) and mongering at night. all in all it was a great trip. maybe not as wild as my trip in may (see reports) but very satisfying. though it was super low season the scene was pretty good. plenty of girls on ws and in the gogos. contrary to some reports red car (my favored hunting ground) was lively (after 12:30 am). as was i-bar (a new favorite). the overall quality of girls may have been down just a tad from may, but this could just be my impression. i still managed to hook up with some very cute girls including one sexy stunner that i haven't been able to get off my mind since i left.
i arrived in bkk from moscow 7 am monday morning. the taxi waiting for me (thanks mr virach!) 1100 baht to pattaya (actually jomtien). it was a holiday weekend so traffic was just terrible. it took over 2 hours to get to the condo where i normally stay, view talay 5 see. it was nice to see the friendly face of my landlady who takes good care of me and makes me feel right at home. even though i was super late getting in form the airport she had nothing but a big smile for me and was nice enough to accept payment in us dollars, not making me go change money right away.
i enjoy the staff and facilities at vt5 immensely and i had a great time there as always. but i am thinking of changing venues next time just to mix things up. i do prefer the peace and quiet here to the craziness of pattaya. but there no cute girls here at all. these are the kind of bar beer fugglies that bronzeman and others have been complaining about. and the beach, though nicer and cleaner than pattaya beach, really is not all that appealing. for my next trip i will try to relocate closer to the action. maybe a condo in north pattaya, in that area where honey 2 is located. it seemed a bit more quiet, but there were bars there that had some cute girls. plus this would open the opportunity for an easy quickie in the afternoon form br girls. which i kind of found myself jonesing for on occasion but with no relief in sight in jomtien.
not having slept on the plane (full of loud obnoxious russians) i was completely exhausted and decided to skip my ambitious initial plans to go for a soapy and just crash for a few hours. i awoke around 6 pm, took a cold shower to relieve my boner, did a bit of work for a few hours (this was a working vacation after all), changed some money (i found a good rate of around 31.8 to the $us at the exchange place right next to the 7-11 on thaprayya rd), did some shopping for essentials at foodland, and then headed off to crystals at soi lk metro to see if i could find the leggy waitress that had been running through my mind since last trip (see foto). we had been getting into it pretty hot and heavy (making out and her stroking my cock through my pants) last trip, but i had failed to take her. a big regret which i hoped to rectify my first night out.
i got to crystal around 9. 30 or so but the waitress was nowhere to be found. i settled in for a beer and took in the sights. the place was not very busy with maybe 10 or so customers and about a dozen girls. the lineup was not bad at all, with a few that were very bar fine worthy. i settled in to relax but was constantly getting pestered by a chubby and unattractive waitress who wanted me to buy her drinks and invite a girl form the stage for a drink. i showed her a picture of my target and she informed me her name was nok (i think, i may have it wrong) and that she will worked at the bar and would be in tomorrow for sure. (good news!) i decided to stay for one more and invited one of the dancers that caught my eye for a drink. tall, slim, with her makeup done up japanese manga style. small perky boobs with rosy nipples. very pretty indeed.
she wasn't wearing a number tag, but when she came over i noticed her hair was actually died blue, accentuating the manga look, i guess. we got into the usual chit chat as i stroked her arms and legs. though she was friendly there was none of the wild groping or petting that i remembered from my last visit to crystals, when i had "nok" the waitress and one of the dancers both making out with me and stroking me at the same time. looking around the room i noticed that there was not much action going on with the dancers that were sitting with the customers either. maybe the "rules" were being more strictly enforced these days?
still this girl was very hot and i was looking for a nice easy lay to break my trip cherry. we talked about bf, and she said it was 1 k and 3 k for her lt. i ordered her a second drink but she had to get up to dance, promising to come back after she was done, the drink on the table waiting for her.
but when her set was over she disappeared to the back of the room to sit with her friends. wtf! i was pretty pissed and thought about just up an leaving right there. the chubby (annoying waitress) saw my predicament and went to get ms. blue. she came back and was very apologetic, so i cozied up next to her and resumed my sweet talking and stroking. but chubbs now felt entitled an pestered me for an ld to reward her efforts. stupidly i complied and now she was also sitting next to us, squeezed up to me and ruining my game with the blue haired dancer. i was pretty damned annoyed and decided to call it a night after finishing my drink. plus i was still determined to come back and check out nok, who had really been into me last time, and i didn't want to screw up my chances with her by bf one of her co-workers (silly but these girls can get very touch and possessive about). blue hair was miffed saying i had promised to bf. i apologized saying i had just gotten in to town and was very tired and perhaps i would bf her tomorrow.
i was a little put off by the entire scene at crystals. the girls were very pushy for drinks and did not seem to really offer much in the way of affection or sexual favors in return. i really wanted to start off with a nice gfe to set a good tone for the rest of the trip. also i had just broken up a long distance relationship and i guess i was hungry for some affection and the emotional illusion these gfe can offer. crystal's just was not up to the task that night and i decided to move on.
i remember a guy i met while scuba diving in may mentioning that destiny was fun so i stumbled over there. i hadn't had any dinner and after a few beers at crystal and a warm up drink at home i was feeling a bit tipsy. it was about 11:30 at this point. the place is smaller than crystal, and though it probably had the same number of girls and guests it felt a lot more lively. the girls on stage were also much more into sexy dancing and put out a bigger effort to attract customers, though they weren't as hot as the crystal crew. i eventually settled into a booth right in front of the stage and soon had two girls sitting beside me. will you buy us lds? sure why not! i was getting a bit loose at this point with my money. the girls were cute but nothing to write home about. but they rewarded my lds with plenty of affection, kissing my neck and rubbing my thighs and chest.
just then i spotted a very sexy girl on stage. she caught my eye because her face looked a bit more korean than thai (see pic 2) and we locked eyes for a moment and i smiled and gave her a wink. the song ended and she shuffled over to the other side of the stage and was replaced with a girl that did not appeal to me, so i returned my attention to the girls sitting next to me. after a few minutes the korean looking girl from on stage plopped right on my lap. surprise! without exchanging even a sentence we began making out. soon we were heavy petting and i even had my hands between her legs, rubbing her pussy through her panties. now this was more like it! she had a nice petite and firm little body. a real spinner. she must have weighed less than 90 lbs. i could swing her around my lap as if she was a rag doll. after a few minutes of making out we took a break and i bought her an ld and another beer for myself. we exchanged names, though it was difficult for me to hear her name over the music (i still don't know it -- it sounded something like noi but was a bit different). between kissing and groping we made small talk. she told me she thought i was handsome and could see that many ladies liked me (i know it was bs, but still nice to hear). i told her i wanted to bf her and we agreed on 800 bf and 3 k for her lt.
i needed to get some food in me so we went to the little open air thai diner on soi lk metro, around the block from the soi and next door to the lk renaissance hotel. delicious pad se ew for me and duck noodles for her. very tasty. and, of course, more beer! a very good band played at the bar next door and we enjoyed their music and chit chatted as we ate. she told me she thought i was very sexy and that i had pretty eyes and that she was happy i bfed her. after dinner we went to the bar next door for another drink and to listen to the excellent band. i was having a ball. happy to be surrounded by happy thai people and with a sexy little thing in my arms clinging to me. we danced and kissed some more, her saying i was the best kisser she had ever had and that it was making her horny. check please! we got a moto taxi and in 10 minutes we were back in the condo.
we started going at it the minute we got into the room. great bj followed by very good sex. she was into it and came soon after i slid into her tight little pussy in mish. we went through the whole gamut of positions. i was pretty drunk so it took me a while to cum but she must have cum at least 2 or 3 times. i finally came pounding into her doggy style as i watched her pretty little face writhing in pleasure in the mirror by the bed. we cuddled and she complimented me on being a good lover, saying that she did not want to fall for me. i told her to slow down and let's just take it as it comes.
all this cuddling and intimate sweet talk was making me horny. we went into round two with me slipping on a condom and just sliding right on top of her. this time the sex was much more tender, a lot of kissing and cuddling as i moved in and out of her slowly. i could feel her come again as i pushed deep into her and she clawed my back with her nails. i pulled out of her and lay on my back and pulled off the condom. she immediately started giving me head until i exploded into her pretty little mouth. she of course ran off to the bathroom right away, to spit out my sperm, like a good thai girl. but she came right back and we cuddled some more.
it was almost 4. 30 am now. she told me she had to get up very early (6 am) as her and her friends were going to koh larn in the morning and did i want to join them. i told her i was just too wiped out after the trip and our lovemaking. i guess she really wanted me to go with her, saying that we could sleep and the beach. i set the alarm for her and we dozed off, holding to each other tight.
the alarm woke us up rudely at 6. i was hoping i could entice her to stay and doze with me for a while and eventually go for round three, but she was determined to go with her friends (i think that they had planned the koh larn trip much earlier as it coincided with the queen's birthday (thai mother's day)). she pleaded me to come with her, but i was just too damned pooped. i wish i had had the energy as it would have been really fun to hang with some thai girls on the beach. not something you see every day. i got her number (though i was too embarrassed to ask he her name, having forgotten it from the night before) and after a long and deep kiss she was on her way.
things had not worked out the way i planned (the best laid plans of mice and men.) but this was a great start to the trip and i went back to bed satisfied and happy to be back in pattaya beach.
in the next episode uncle v continues his search for the leggy waitress and random women keep throwing themselves at him!
stay horny my friends.
uncle v.
p.s. : pics of the girls are from the gogos websites as i did not have a chance to take pics of either girl.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614186]Dearest Colleagues!
Jus
In the next episode Uncle V continues his search for the leggy waitress and random women keep throwing themselves at him!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
P.S. : Pics of the girls are from the Gogos websites as I did not have a chance to take pics of either girl.[/QUOTE]Thank you for a very nice report. I look forward to read reports from the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614186]
In the next episode Uncle V continues his search for the leggy waitress and random women keep throwing themselves at him!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
P.S. : Pics of the girls are from the Gogos websites as I did not have a chance to take pics of either girl.[/QUOTE]Great start Uncle V, the first leg of the report was fun to read. Great pictures as well. Hope the next instalment comes out soon.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614186]It took over 2 hours to get to the condo where I normally stay, View Talay 5 C. [/QUOTE]I have a buddy who lives there. The view and the breeze are excellent.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1613535]What do the girls waiting along beach road do when it rains, especially in the rainy season when it comes down more frequently?[/QUOTE]Depends. If it's a short downpour, they may wait it out on the other side of the street or in Royal Garden Plaza and similar places. If it lasts long, probably go home, as customers aren't going to be out in numbers either.
Rain does have an effect on the number of girls out, especially if it strikes in the prime evening time (19:30-22:30). It occasionally does ruin an evening if Beach Road is your main hunting ground. Having a few phone numbers ready helps in that case.
What generally doesn't matter much are the overcast skies. While punters may stay away from impending rain, Thais know that it might rain anytime despite a clearing in the clouds, or not rain at all even though the sky is dark.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1614270].. if it strikes in the prime evening time (19:30-22:30).[/QUOTE]Honestly, I did not know that was the prime time. I was always checking it out in the early afternoon. Useful information for my next visit.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614186]Dearest Colleagues!
In the next episode Uncle V continues his search for the leggy waitress and random women keep throwing themselves at him!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
P.S. : Pics of the girls are from the Gogos websites as I did not have a chance to take pics of either girl.[/QUOTE]Glad you you found a good one from the get go. I always enjoy reading your reports.
I'm in Pattaya for the first time since 28th and the only thing I've done so far is Devils Den witch was very fun. Just the whole Pattaya scene feels a little alien to me. I guess I have to force myself to get in the rithm.
Day 2, Tuesday Aug 12.
After all the travel and the nice session from the night before I needed to catch up on my seep, so I snoozed till 4. Woke up and got some grub at Sam's Taqueria, a Mexican place nearby. Nothing earth shattering, but the carne asada quesadilla really hit the spot. If you go there ask them to give you the green salsa. Homemade and very tasty.
Got some work done after eating and then went to Took-com to drop off my phone to be fixed (thanks for the tip LBM. They said they would fix the screen for 1500 and that I could pick it up in 2 hrs. I decided to leave it over night and come back the next day.
The plan for the evening was to go back to Crystal to see the leggy waitress girl from last trip. Decided to go a little earlier than usual, figuring that if I BFed her I would have more time with her later.
Took the sangtow (baht bus) and got to Crystal around 9 PM. Chubbs from the night before recognized me and summoned Ms Leggs over right.
Away. She was working as a dancer now to make more money. She looked good in her lingere and her body was tight. But I much preferred her in her waitress outfit: short skirt and button down shirt. Which really accentuated those fabulous gams of hers. She sat down and I ordered her a drink, slipping my hand between her silky thighs. We sat like that for a while and chit chatted. She was flattered that I had sought her out and said she remembered me from before, but I doubt this is true. She was nice and cuddly, but that was about as far as it went. No stroking or kissing, her saying that she would save that for back in my room.
Her time came to dance and we moved up to the little dance floor / cage at the far right of the club, just by the entrance. She danced for me shaking her cute little butt. I enjoyed it immensely as I was just inches away from her tight little bootie. After he set she cuddled close to me, though she rebuffed me efforts to make out (bummer). We talked about BF and she wasn't happy that I was staying all the way in Jomtien (a recurrent theme), but was down to go I joked that we would walk there to get some exercise. She countered that we should save out energy for "sexercise" in the room.
I was ready to take her but something held me back. I don't know if it was her reluctance to kiss, or her new sharkiness at being a dancer, but the spell was broken for me. I just wasn't feeling her. And there were plenty of other girls at the club that were way more sexy than her. The lineup was excellent. Blue hair form last night was there and I also liked numbers 270 and 271. I decided that I would save my money and cum for someone else, excused myself for being too tired (I had a long "walk" ahead of me back to Jomtien), gave her a 200 baht tip, and was on my way.
These trips to Crystal were getting a little pricey (I'd already shelled out 1 K on drinks and tips tonight alone) so I decided to try my luck with the freelance scene at Red Car on Walking Street. It was completely dead when I walked in around 11.30 -- seemingly confirming the reports I had read on the forum form Mr. Enternational. I walked out and headed down WS to try I-Bar. The scene on WS was very god with plenty of cute girls. There were a bunch of particularly sexy FLs loitering outside of Lucifer's, though I had my suspicions that they could be post-op LBs. I'm curious if anyone has ever had experience with them?
I hit I-Bar a little before midnight. There were some cute girls there, but it was still pretty early. I ordered a drink at the bar just to the left of the restrooms, noticing a cute little girl that was positively beaming at me. Though cute, she wasn't really my type, but I decided to go over to mingle as she also had some cute friends. The minute I came over and we exchanged names (her name was Dao. See pic) this girl latched on to me, clinging close to me and kissing an hugging me. We started making out just a few minutes later and she just couldn't get enough, looking up at me with puppy dog eyes. Damn this girl was really in to me. It was uncanny, but a great boost for my ego, much needed after the recent breakup with my GF back home. I met a very nice Australian guy who was hitting on one of Dao's friends and he asked me if Dao was my girlfriend. He was surprised when I told him I had just met the girl 15 minutes ago. We both agreed that Pattaya was the best place on earth.
After a couple of beers I asked Dao if she wanted to go home with me and she nodded yes eagerly. We didn't even discuss any money. To be honest Dao was pretty drunk (she had been drinking Long Islands allnight). Her friend was even a little concerned, but I promised her that I would take good care of Dao and that seemed to allay her worries.
We hopped on a moto taxi and were back at my pad in Jomtien a little before 2 am. We started going at it the minute we crossed the threshold of my apartment. We moved to the bed and Dao gave me a nice BJ and I went down on her. She was absolutely writhing in ecstasy and I am pretty sure she came. I slipped on a condom and got on top of her in mish. She was very tight and it hurt her a little when I penetrated her.
But I took it easy moving steady in slow movements and nuzzling her neck and kissing her face. Pretty soon she loosened up and I was pounding away. She dug her nails into my back hard scratching my back. It hurt, but felt good. We went through all the positions, her coming again and again. At one point she was riding me and alternating between sucking me off and then sticking me back into her pussy to ride me some more. She did this a few times and then pulled off the condom to give me some furious head. She was so horny that she put me back inside her bareback. This felt so fucking good (I hate condoms!) but I wisely pulled out and put a condom back on. After a few more position changes I pulled the condom off again and came, jerking myself off all over her cute little face.
She ran to the bathroom to wash off her face and came back to snuggle. We talked a bit, her asking if I have kids and telling me that she could not have kids but really wanted little baby to take care of. She said how much she loved her sister's kids and that she wanted her sister to lave one of them with her to take care of but that she refused. She said she was saving up money to hire someone as a surrogate to have a baby for her, but that it was very expensive. This girl was so tender and sweet, and though not the best looker, I was very happy to have cuddled her in my arms.
We slept for a little bit, then woke up to make love, and then back to dozing. We must have repeated this at least 3 times. We finally woke up around 5 PM and went at it one last time. This time I pulled her on top of the dresser and did her standing up, her legs wrapped around me as I pumped away. I just could not get enough of her sweet little pussy! I came one last time as she gave me head, exploding in her sweet little mouth.
It was around 6 PM when she finally got ready to leave. I told her that she should call her friend to tell her she was OK, joking that her friend had probably already called the police. I got her number and took some pics of her, telling her that I wanted to remember our special time together. I am including a few of them below along with some pics from her Line account where she looks better.
I probably could have got away with a freebie but I slipped 2500 Baht in her pocket as we kissed goodbye. She was deeply appreciative and said she hoped to see me again. I know this may sounds extravagant to you cheap Charlies but this girl definitely earned it. I think we fucked at least 7 times. I don't really know as I lost count.
It was almost 6. 30 by now and I was wiped out. Back to bed for a short nap before figuring out my plans for the evening.
Only in Pattaya.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=NexoMonger;1614391]Glad you you found a good one from the get go. I always enjoy reading your reports.
I'm in Pattaya for the first time since 28th and the only thing I've done so far is Devils Den witch was very fun. Just the whole Pattaya scene feels a little alien to me. I guess I have to force myself to get in the rithm.[/QUOTE]Thanks my friend!
I know the feeling. Some times you have to force it a bit, but then things work out an you have a sexy girls on your arm and feel great!
I am curious. Who did you take form DD? I did a takeout with Vew a few days ago (Aug 23). Not bad, but far from the stellar service they advertise.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1614237]I have a buddy who lives there. The view and the breeze are excellent.[/QUOTE]Lucky friend!
Its fun to do girls on the balcony as you enjoy the view.
Man I need to get back ASAP. But I probably won't be able to swing a trip before January.
Mr E. You are one lucky SOB to be there so often. I envy you buddy!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614551]Thanks my friend!
I know the feeling. Some times you have to force it a bit, but then things work out an you have a sexy girls on your arm and feel great!
I am curious. Who did you take form DD? I did a takeout with Vew a few days ago (Aug 23). Not bad, but far from the stellar service they advertise.[/QUOTE]Well since since I arrived to Pattaya on my birthday I wanted to treat myself to a treesome I picked up Zone and Tammy.
Joe didn't speak English but was lot of fun with great attitude, Tammy spoke ok but wasn't in the mood.
I wanted to take Cory but she was out for few days and will be returning today, I might do Cory and Zone tonight.
Also tried Honey 1 since it's right by my hotel picked a girl name Nan, as far as my first soapie gos. The soapie part was great but the girl was really cold, will not repeat.
I still have about 10 more days here so who know. Anything can happen.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614545]
I probably could have got away with a freebie but I slipped 2500 Baht in her pocket as we kissed goodbye. She was deeply appreciative and said she hoped to see me again. I know this may sounds extravagant to you cheap Charlies but this girl definitely earned it. I think we fucked at least 7 times. I don't really know as I lost count.
It was almost 6. 30 by now and I was wiped out. Back to bed for a short nap before figuring out my plans for the evening.
Only in Pattaya.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Good stuff Uncle V, and Dao does look quite pretty (even in the pic that you took in the apartment and not the LINE pic). I am not too sure about LT rates, but I thought for FL's the LT rates were a little less, however, if you went 3 rounds with her, I think the price may be justified. So they have opened up I-Bar again? Last two LTs that I did I paid THB 1,000 with a tip of THB 500 but that was with a soi 6 girl and THB 1,000 with a tip of THB 200 to a BR girl, 2 pops each girl. Club FL's are bound to be more expensive, anyone got them for cheaper?
Look forward to the next instalment.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614545]There were a bunch of particularly sexy FLs loitering outside of Lucifer's, though I had my suspicions that they could be post-op LBs. I'm curious if anyone has ever had experience with them? [/QUOTE]You have to be aware of LBs indeed (don't know if they are post-op or pre-op, I've never checked that LOL) because there are many of them these days. But I've never seen that many in front of Lucifer's, although I can be fooled of course, and I have picked up a genuine lady FL from there occasionally. Including one of the prettiest and nicest girls that I've ever met in Thailand. She was one of my regulars for 3 years until she moved to South Africa to work as a masseuse and I lost track of her. 'In South Africa only massage, no boom boom' she said. Hmmm, I hope she's ok.
Nice trip Uncle V. Helping me gear up for my up coming trip.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1614545]Day 2, Tuesday Aug 12.
After all the travel and the nice session from the night before I needed to catch up on my seep, so I snoozed till 4. Woke up and got some grub at Sam's Taqueria, a Mexican place nearby. Nothing earth shattering, but the carne asada quesadilla really hit the spot. If you go there ask them to give you the green salsa. Homemade and very tasty.
Got some work done after eating and then went to Took-com to drop off my phone to be fixed (thanks for the tip LBM. They said they would fix the screen for 1500 and that I could pick it up in 2 hrs. I decided to leave it over night and come back the next day.
The plan for the evening was to go back to Crystal to see the leggy waitress girl from last trip. Decided to go a little earlier than usual, figuring that if I BFed her I would have more time with her later.
Took the sangtow (baht bus) and got to Crystal around 9 PM. Chubbs from the night before recognized me and summoned Ms Leggs over right....[/QUOTE]
Hi.
Can anyone recommend a good repair shop in Pattaya specializing in mobile phones.
Went to Tukom but the repair booths employees responded "no can help".
I have a LG Optimus L1 that is not sensing finger swiping.
Thanks.
TC.
[QUOTE=Tcvve;1614882]Hi.
Can anyone recommend a good repair shop in Pattaya specializing in mobile phones.
Went to Tukom but the repair booths employees responded "no can help".
I have a LG Optimus L1 that is not sensing finger swiping.
Thanks.
TC.[/QUOTE]There are a number of repair booth at TukCom. The one I used and just recently reported by UncleV, in his report is.
PAO.
As you come in front of Pattaya Tai, take the escalator up, at the top walk straight until you get to the escalator in the middle, turn right go all the way to the end where there are booths line up against the wall, you will see a sign PAO, you will see one or two guys with stacks of phone working. Tell the girl what is the problem and see if she can help you? I have gone around this floor asking before and every tough problem they tell me to go to PAO? As noted, there is a hardward store in basement as you enter to the left is a repair shop it was also recommended.
Good luck,
After a short nap I woke up at 7 PM ready to start my day (jeeze I was keeping some crazy hours). I showered and grabbed a songtaw to [URL]Took.com[/URL] to get my phone form PAO mobile. Sure enough they had my phone fixed a promised and only 1500 Baht. Great work. TCVVE I can not recommend this place enough. Thanks again for the tip LBM.
I also bought a silicone case for the phone to keep myself from busting the damned thing again. And for only 20 baht. I bought the same one in Moscow for 25 times the price. On my way back I picked up some delicious street food to take back home. Curry, rice, some eggs, a stir fried pork dish, some fruit (including durian) all for under 300 baht.
Got home, ate and did a couple of hours of work on the computer. The plan was to try my luck again with the FL scene and to see if Red Car really was dead or not. Dao form the night before I'm'd me on Line to see what I was up to. I told her I wiped out after our love making and that I was staying in. She bid me sweet dreams and asked me to dream of her. What a sweetheart!
I hit Red Car at midnight. It was only about half full with not that many cuties. One looker, however, did catch my eye and we soon began to chat with my hands all over her nice body. She was very well dressed and showed off some nice cleavage. I even got a nice short kiss on the lips form her. But this girl was all business. She wanted 3 K for LT and wanted me to decide right then and there if I would take her. I wanted to hang out a little first and was wary of her sharkiness. As you guys may have guessed it really is all about the GFE for me and I had my doubts that this girl could deliver. I thanked her and said my goodbyes, saying it was a little early in the evening for me to commit to anything but that maybe we could talk later if she was still around.
I decided to bounce and headed out to I-Bar. A lot of good FLs on the street. I thought of giving them a go, but I had my doubts whether they could deliver the GFE I craved so much.
I-Bar was happening with lots of very cute girls. I made eye contact with one very tall and curvy girl with dyed blonde hair She was slightly taller than me (178 cm) and I don't even think she was wearing heels. She was nicely dressed and put together as well. She told me she was from BKK and had her own beauty salon. Her and her friends were down for the holiday weekend. She asked me if I came alone and seemed to lose interest when I confirmed that I did. After a while I let her go back to talking to her friends and left the group.
I like I-Bar a lot and the girls there are very pretty. However, it is a younger crowd and a lot of the girls and guys are there in groups. Not a lot of lone wolf types (like me). It can be tough to approach solo and you feel like you may be giving the girls a creepy vibe at times. In that respect Red Car is more comfortable in that a lot of the girls come alone as do many of the guys. But the girls are definitely not as hot in RC. I wish I had had my phone with me last night and that I had gotten the friendly Australian guys' number so that we could be each other's Wings. I hope I will have a chance to try I-Bar with a wingman one day. Maybe make it a goal for next trip.
I also noticed that Dao was there. She had been watching me hit on the tall blonde and was giving me the stink-eye. So I decided to bounce.
And see if I could catch up with the pushy girl from RC before she left and to take her up on her offer.
Ms Pushy was already gone by the time I got back to RC (found a taker for her offer. No doubt). But the place was much more crowded and happening than before. I did a quick recon run around the bar. Just as I was about to turn into the dance floor I spotted a very cute and petite little girl ensconced in the corner of the main bar. She had a big smile for me and gave me a nice hug when I introduced myself. I playfully asked her why she was hiding there and that I was so happy that I had found her. She laughed and we hit it off right away. Dancing and cuddling. Before long we were making out passionately right there at the bar. Her name was Gaew and she was just super cute and fun to talk to. After a while I suggested we go back to my place. She told me that she wanted 3 K, I said I normally paid 2, and she relented right away saying that she would go with me for only 2 K because she liked me.
We grabbed a moto taxi and were back at my condo building in 15 minutes. She had never been to Jomtien and I suggested that I show her the beach. There was a nice warm breeze blowing and the sound of the waves crashing on the shore was very romantic as we walked along hand in hand. We stopped at a nice point where we could view the water and I grabbed one of the plastic chairs used by the day vendors and sat her down on my lap. We started kissing passionately as my hands explored her lithe little body. We were really getting into each other.
When we got to the apartment I mixed us a couple of drinks which we took to the balcony. We started making out right away as she straddled my lap. I took off her shirt and unleashed her little boobies from her bra. A little saggy (she had had a baby) but still very nice. I told he to take off her jeans and she complied. I pulled down my pants and put on a condom and she slid on top of me in cowgirl. She was already pretty wet. I guess she was as excited as I was about doing it on the balcony. After a few minutes of cowgirl we got up and I bent her over the railing and took her from behind. I could see she was really getting into it as she moaned with pleasure. I kept stopping from time to time to kiss her from behind, grabbing her little head and moving her mouth to meet my hungry lips.
After a while my legs got a little tired from squatting down to the level I needed to be at to enter her so we moved back inside an on to my bed. She started to give me the most amazing blowjob. It was a little rough at first with too much suction. But she let up on the suction a little bit when I told her and it just felt wonderful from there on. She went very deep taking me all the way in to the point where I was hitting the back of her throat. She also worked my shaft with her tongue as she bobbed her head up and down. This was some of the best head I have ever had for sure.
I felt myself about to cum so I stopped her and pulled on a condom and entered her in missionary. She was so wet that I could barely feel anything with the condom on. But the pleasure it was giving her was enogh to turn me on and keep me hard. We worked up a nice rhythm with her pushing into to me and caressing my neck and shoulders as I moved in and out. She let out a long gasp as she came and asked me to stop for a little bit as she said she now felt it tickle (chickotee-chikotee! I complied and we stopped for a little while, her stroking me as we continued to kiss. After a few minutes I pulled her on top of me and entered her again. She rode me and I think she came again, but did not asked to stop this time. I then got her on all fours and did her doggy, enjoying the expression of ecstasy on her face in the mirror by the bed. I was ready to come so I pulled off the condom and hugged her close to me as I continued to wank. She kissed me passionately and started biting my nipples. As I shot my load I pushed her head down so that she took it all in her willing little mouth. I came as her head bobbed up and down my shaft, clutching her little boobies in each of my hands for dear life.
She ran to the bathroom to spit me out and came right back to cuddle. We talked for a while and she told me about her family back in Issan. Knowing that she had a child I asked her if she celebrated Thai Mother's Day the day before. But sadly she told me that her daughter died of a heart condition last year. She was only 5 years old.
I was very moved by this story and close to tears myself. These girls have such a hard life. Guys please go easy on them and be kind to them, even when they do stupid stuff or fail to meet your expectations.
I hugged her to comfort her and dry her tears. She thanked me and said I had a very good heart. We started kissing tenderly and soon were making love again. This time more gently and tenderly with me on top. I did not come a second time, but it was very nice to be inside her in a very caring and tender way. After we finished she fell asleep in my arms, me stroking her pretty little head as it cradled in my chest.
I woke up in a few hours feeling very cold. We'd left the damned AC blasting. She was OK, but very sleepy. I felt a fever coming on and so I took an ibuprofen. I put on a shirt and some sweatpants and went back to sleep sweating away my cold. She clutched me from behind, comforting me and holding me as I drifted off.
I woke up again in another few hours feeling a little better. She was still fast asleep. I had sweated quite a bit so I took a shower, not wanting to be stinky. I got back in bed started kissing her. She was a little groggy still but receptive to my advances and we were soon back at it again. We ran through the positions: mish, then her on top, then doggy. I wanted to make her come and she was getting into it, but seemed to give up every time she seemed close to coming. When I asked her why she told me she only liked to come once in the evening because it made her very tired. But she said she wanted me to come very much. I obliged her, pulling off the condom and jerking myself all over her lovely little tits. Surprisingly she did not run off to the bathroom to wash but cuddled close to me giving me a nice long chest to chest hug.
It was already about 5 PM and I told her I needed to do some work. She started getting ready to leave but I couldn't keep my hands off her, delaying her departure. I gave her the promised 2 K plus 200 baht for "taxi". She waied appreciatively. I escorted her downstairs to get her I'd (and to show her off to my doormen buddies) and she gave me a nice long kiss before we parted.
Just a wonderful and tender experience with a lovely little girl.
Three genuine honest to goodness GFEs in a row! Uncle V was on a roll. Would his luck last?
Check out the next episode, where all this traveling and incessant shagging catches up to poor old Uncle V and where he tries his luck with a lady he picks up right from Walking Street.
Stay Horny my friends.
Uncle V.
P.S.: Gaew is not her real name and I am not posting pics because I want to stay in touch with this girl and don't want it to get back that I have been posting about her and this forum. Sorry guys I hope you understand.
Uncle V is on a roll here. Hopefully I will have the similar experience such as yours.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1614735] ..... I am not too sure about LT rates, but I thought for FL's the LT rates were a little less, however, if you went 3 rounds with her, I think the price may be justified. So they have opened up I-Bar again? Last two LTs that I did I paid THB 1,000 with a tip of THB 500 but that was with a soi 6 girl and THB 1,000 with a tip of THB 200 to a BR girl, 2 pops each girl. Club FL's are bound to be more expensive, anyone got them for cheaper?
Look forward to the next instalment.[/QUOTE]Action O. Most of the freelance girls I grab from the clubs will get 1000 Baht. (1/2 of the time price is not even mentioned).
If the girl does ask me how much I will pay, I tell her I can give her 1000 to stay all night. Then she has the chance to either say ok or ask for 1,500.
Occasionally, if the chemistry is right I can go for 1,500 but usually its 1000. In any case, they are being treated good. They get to drink, eat some food, sleep in a nice room with AC. And I usually give them taxi money to go home the next afternoon.
Woke up with a fever and feeling like crap. Barely made it out of the condo to get some food and medicine. I hate to give up a day of mongering, but I decided to stay in. I did manage to get a bunch of work done from bed. I also chatted a little bit with Gaew on line. Unfortunately my biological clock was all messed up and I could not get to bed early, as planned. I think the cold medicine I took may have also kept me up with all the amphetamines they put in it. Plus me being sick did not dampen my horniness. In retrospect I should have called Gaew or one of the other girls over to nurse me. But I was all sweaty and sick and did not want to gross them out.
I felt a little better the next day (Friday), but not all the way back to full strength. I spent the day finishing up some work, made sure I ate well and took my medicine. I was determined to go out and not pass up a Friday night.
I wanted to avoid RC so as not to run into Gaew and risk hurting her feelings if I did not take her. Though I appreciated my little spinners and all the joy they had given me I was in the mood for a girl with some meat on her bones. I wanted a nice voluptuous body with a nice rack.
Unlike most guys I don't have a an ideal body type. I like skinny spinners and curves. It depends what kind of mood I am in. Variety is my spice in all things. While I love lean and light Thai food I also like an occasional juicy ham or rump roast as well.
I decided to try my luck at I-Bar, braving the group dynamic. I figured that if I struck out I could always try and get together with Dao, who would be sure to be there.
I arrived at I-Bar a little after midnight. Instead of going to the downstairs bar I decided to first check out the upstairs disco area. There were a few cuties up there for sure. But the place was way too crowded and the ratio was overly skewed in favor of douchie guys who looked like they had just come form casting for an Axe body spray commercial. And the music was lame techno stuff. I bounced after doing a couple of recon laps and moved o the downstairs area to try my luck.
There were some cuties downstairs, but no one that fit my curvaceous cravings. Actually there was one girl that was perfect. But I failed to pounce on her right away and she was soon taken by another dude. I got some flirty glances form other girls as I made my rounds around the room. Some were very cute and I would normally have been on them in a heartbeat. But I was holding out or the right one.
Just then I saw Dao walk in with her friend. She glanced at me and then quickly looked away and went to the bar. When I tried to approach her to say Hi she just raised up and gave me the "talk to the hand" gesture. Well, I guess Plan be was now shot. I probably could have made amends and sweet talked her, but I wanted to avoid any entanglements with this girl. Still, her rejection did sting just a little bit.
I made one more trip around the club, just to check if Ms Curves was still occupied. And she was. There were some nice looking girls but they were all in groups with their friends and did not return the smiles or eye contact I sent them. Being a lone wolf had me feeling a little uncomfortable in that place. So I decided to quit I-Bar and try my luck elsewhere.
I made my way up the street. Not really knowing where I was heading but admiring all the cute girls. I decided to pop into Lucifer to check things out. The dance floor area as pretty dead. But I decided to have a beer anyway. I ended up camping out in a chair between the outside bar area and the disco area, figuring it would be a good spot to check out the girls as they came in and out of the club. Unfortunately there really wasn't much to see. Though I did have a laugh when a girl coming in to the club with her friends came up and grinded her butt against my lap yelling "sexy man! Unfortunately neither she or her friends were all that sexy to my eyes. I finished my beer and decided to bounce to the next club.
I really didn't have much of a plan beyond checking out the girls on WS. But nothing caught my eye and somehow I ended up at RC as if I was being pulled there by a tractor beam. It was about 1 AM at this point and RC was pretty lively. Though there were only a few attractive girls and none that met my curvy criteria. Gaew was also there and she noticed me right away. She didn't give me a greeting, nor did she stink-eye me either. But I could tell that she was talking about me to her friend. Not in a bad way -- as they were both smiling and joking. I think she was letting me know it was up to me to make the first move.
Just then a girl walked in that caught my eye. Tall, curvy and nicely dresses (conservative but sexy). Her and her friend settled in not far from where Gaew was standing. I followed her over and began talking o her and her friend, who seemed very shy. I tried talking to her for a while but I was feeling uncomfortable chatting someone up so close to Gaew. I didn't want Gaew to lose face. So I bought the girls a couple of drinks and suggested that we move to the other end of the bar. They complied but were kind of confused as to why we were doing this. I finally explained my reasoning to them. They thought it was ridiculous (I guess it was) and told me they were moving back to the dance floor where Gaew was. I decided not to follow as I was losing interest in Shy Girl anyway. Her not being as pretty as I first imagined.
I talked to a couple more girls but none really did it for me. I had a last humorous encounter with Shy girl. She was standing alone under a lamp. As I approached her to say Hi she got startled and banged her head on the lamp. I asked her if she was OK. I guess she was embarrassed. She just up and ran away apologizing that "I have to go see my friend".
After this mini debacle I was ready to call it a night and I left the club. As I was walking up WS I spotted a group of very cute girls loitering and looking for punters. They were really well made up and had sexy dresses that accentuated their curves. I stopped and did a double take and started talking to the prettiest one. She was direct and to the point, suggesting we go for ST in her room nearby. I told her I only did LT. She was down with it, even though she was not enthusiastic about having to trek all the way out to Jomtien. We negotiated a price of 3 K and we were soon on our way. Me now walking hand in hand with one of the prettiest girls on WS. Talk about turning shit into Shinola!
And damn this girl was hot! Alabaster white skin, a curvy athletic frame, and nice see cup boobies (fake but still spectacular). Pretty, though somewhat angular face. I am still kicking myself that I did not take any pics. She added me to line, but not to her timeline where girls usually post their fotos. She does, however, have a profile pic which I'm attaching to this report. Funny enough I also never really got her name. The name on her line account is in Thai, but it may not even be her real name.
We hopped on a moto and were soon at my Condo. Hoping to build some intimacy I suggested a walk on the beach. But she wasn't down because of her stiletto heels. Up in the room I took her to the balcony, But, oddly, she seemed terrified to be out there, protesting that she was afraid of heights. WTF??
So I moved us to the bed and told her to take off her dress. She wanted the money up front. Btu I firmly told her that I never do this and she seemed OK with it. She said she never went long time and that she made an exception for me. (no doubt because I am such a "hansum man" - LOL!) After laying down the law with the money she became very compliant. Which kind of turned me on. I had her take off her dress revealing those magnificent boobs. Nice rosy nipples which was a real surprise. I played with her boobs for a while as she stroked my cock to attention. I also started working her pussy with my fingers, but she wasn't at all wet.
She started giving me head. It was nice but very rushed, with no rhythm at all, like she wanted to get me off ASAP. Not as sensual and amazing as Gaew. I told her to slow down a bit and it got better. I laid back and enjoyed the sight of her head bobbing up and down in the mirror as I played with her succulent see cups.
I was ready to try her little pussy. I put on a condom and she busted out some lube and I was soon inside her in mish. Though she moaned with pleasure I could tell she was faking it. She also avoided my attempts to kiss her on the mouth. But I still enjoyed the optifuck, pausing every once in a while in my pumping to caress her breasts and enjoy the view. I moved her on top of me in cowgirl to get a better view of her boobs and to play with them with my hands. But she was pumping me way to fast and without any real rythm. Still trying to get me off. So I stopped and had her get on all fours for doggy. I took my sweet time pumping her nice firm ass, feeling her supple thigh meat (Kumbu reference! And manhandling her bodacious tatas. After about 15 minutes of this I was ready to come. I slipped off the condom and slid on my back. I moved he down so she could give me head. She was still moving too fast so I had her lick my balls as I jerked myself to a finish, exploding into her open and willing mouth.
She rushed off to the bathroom to spit out my baby batter, but came back and cuddled up against me for a few minutes. She told me she was from a suburb of Bangkok and that she really did not like Pattaya all that much. She also said that she was getting ready to go to Korea for work. I told her I had heard bad things about the way Korean gangs treated girls and to be very careful. Remember what I said last episode about these girls having a very rough life!
After a few minutes she said she was ready to sleep and turned over and fell fast asleep. Even starting to softly snore after a few minutes. Damn these girls can sleep! I had been dragging my cold around me and not feeling myself all day. But now I felt great and had my old elan back. Just what the doctor ordered! As I drifted off to sleep I hugged her and thanked her for curing me of my cold.
I got up a few hours later with a raging hard on. I started rubbing her boobs and kissing her body. I was expecting her to bat me away as she was still sleep. But this girl was nothing if not compliant. Soon she was giving me head as I played with her glorious globes. We went through the gamut of positions: Mish, CG, Doggy. I finished as I had done last night: her licking my sack as I jerked myself to completion and her catching it all in her pretty little mouth.
She seemed ready to leave when she came out of the bathroom, saying that she was worried about her motorbike which she had let on WS. Though we had agreed for her to stay till 1 PM I paid her and let her go. She was grateful and gave me a nice goodbye kiss and we made tentative plans to see each other again. Though I really had no intention of doing so at that point.
This wasn't really a GFE, so I guess the streak was broken. She had been a little detached and rushed, but very compliant and ready to please. And the body was just amazing. So supple and firm! I gained a lifetime of spank bank material that evening. A very enjoyable experience that I'd repeat in a heartbeat if I had a chance to do so right now.
Stay tuned for the next episode where Uncle V goes back to the well for some GFE!
And (always) stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1615304]Action O. Most of the freelance girls I grab from the clubs will get 1000 Baht. (1/2 of the time price is not even mentioned).
If the girl does ask me how much I will pay, I tell her I can give her 1000 to stay all night. Then she has the chance to either say ok or ask for 1,500.
Occasionally, if the chemistry is right I can go for 1,500 but usually its 1000. In any case, they are being treated good. They get to drink, eat some food, sleep in a nice room with AC. And I usually give them taxi money to go home the next afternoon.[/QUOTE]Maybe I've been overpaying? I guess I could hold out for a better price. But paying 15-30 bucks more to ensure that the girls stays in a good mood and that the session is stellar (which almost all of mine have been) is worth it to me. Especially since I can only get out there twice a year and am only there for a short time. Wasting a time is a lot more costly for me in the long run than paying a little more.
Just my 2 Cents.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1613535]What do the girls waiting along beach road do when it rains, especially in the rainy season when it comes down more frequently?[/QUOTE]The few cute ones usually chuck it and go home for the night, the more desperate ones may come back. Rainy season can be hit-or-miss when it comes to finding girls.
Uncle V,
You're my hero. I love your posts and your 2 cents hits home with me. I unfortunately can only visit the land of smiles once a year. When I come I act like a Pattaya millionaire. I don't want to waste time and I want what I want. If it means paying a little more to have a great session with a drop dead gorgous young lady, so be it. Have I overpayed, yes I think so. Have I overpayed and had a bad experience? Just once, and I think it was because of me being a little drunk. I have been mostly lucky trying to under pay the normal going rates for PFP, but I also have had terrible experiences with low charges for PFP. My experiences and time constraints have taught me not to waste time. If you were local or visited on a regular basis, its there and I am sure you could do just fine and be a rock star on a small budget. When you have limited time and you are old and ugly like me, you simply get what you pay for in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615352]Maybe I've been overpaying? I guess I could hold out for a better price. But paying 15-30 bucks more to ensure that the girls stays in a good mood and that the session is stellar (which almost all of mine have been) is worth it to me. Especially since I can only get out there twice a year and am only there for a short time. Wasting a time is a lot more costly for me in the long run than paying a little more.
Just my 2 Cents.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615352]Maybe I've been overpaying? I guess I could hold out for a better price. But paying 15-30 bucks more to ensure that the girls stays in a good mood and that the session is stellar (which almost all of mine have been) is worth it to me. Especially since I can only get out there twice a year and am only there for a short time. Wasting a time is a lot more costly for me in the long run than paying a little more.
Just my 2 Cents.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]It does make sense that you would rather want to pay more to a FL in order to avoid the hassle of having a nasty experience.
That said, I think, Pattaya is a place for bargain hunters and it is possible to find a decent lay at any price point. I personally would not pay Bangkok service rates for girls in Pattaya, not that any one mongers spending will affect the market, it's just that IMHO if it is possible to have the girl for a lesser amount it may be worth a try to offer a lower amount first and then agree somewhere in between. Although, I do tip, poor to bad service will get a nominal tip and exemplary service will fetch a very good tip from me. After all not everyone visiting Pattaya can spend like a 2 week millionaire.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1615304]Action O. Most of the freelance girls I grab from the clubs will get 1000 Baht. (1/2 of the time price is not even mentioned).
If the girl does ask me how much I will pay, I tell her I can give her 1000 to stay all night. Then she has the chance to either say ok or ask for 1,500.
Occasionally, if the chemistry is right I can go for 1,500 but usually its 1000. In any case, they are being treated good. They get to drink, eat some food, sleep in a nice room with AC. And I usually give them taxi money to go home the next afternoon.[/QUOTE]Same for me.
Day 6 - Saturday.
I woke up around noon still feeling a little sick. When will I be done with this damned cold! I lounged around the condo and got some work done in the afternoon. In my tired and befuddled state I managed to lock myself out of the house and had to call my landlady to let me back in. She was nice enough to do so, without any complaints, though she lives pretty far away. The people here can be so kind. I love Thailand.
Even though it was Saturday I decided against going out that evening. Instead of going out to find the girl I would have her come to me for a relaxed romantic evening. I IMed Gaew to see if she was mad at me for not taking her the night before. She thought this question to be super silly. Why would she be mad? I asked her if she wanted to come stay with me that evening. She said yes and I arranged to have her come over at 9 PM. She I'm'd me that this made her very happy and I was happy to be seeing her too.
Gaew showed up at 9 PM on the dot. I went downstairs to get her and walked to the night market by the beer bar complex to get some food. Holding hands and joking the entire time. She had a wicked sense of humor that meshed really well with my own. She teased me for getting locked out and I told her it was because I could not stop thinking of her. She also complimented me for being romantic and handsome and I told her I did not believe her, but that I did believe all the Bar Beer ladies that yelled handsome man out to me when we passed by.
It was hot and muggy outside so we decided to stop for a drink at the disco just beyond the beer bars. They had a live band that was doing Thai music and traditional Thai dancers doing the hand dance thing. I could tell Gaew was having a good time as we laughed and joked and I tried to sing to the Thai songs. I was having a ball too, been though I still felt a little sick. After our drink we were quite hungry so we moved on to the open air seafood restaurant at the market nearby. The food there is absolutely delicious, but I did not have much of an appetite because of my damned cold. The fried shrimp I ordered were extremely tasty. As was her Tom Yum Talay and vegetable dish we ordered. With drinks the bill came to a measly 250 baht!
We talked about our lives over diner. She was from a town on the border with Cambodia and her family were Rice farmers. I said that I would go with her to her town and she laughed saying it would be very difficult for me to survive there. It's far hotter than Pattaya and there is no AC in her house. Plus her Papa would shoot me with his bee-bee gun (I think she meant shotgun but it was cue to hear). We also talked about her dowry (she said it would be 3 million Baht). I said for that money she should at least be ready to cook for me. She joked, "Can cook, but don't know if you can eat (what I cook). ".
After dinner we took a nice long walk on the beach, holding hands and kissing from time to time. It was all very romantic and I was extremely happy to be with this lovely, bright and kind little girl.
We showered together when we got to the condo with her lovingly scrubbing my back and chest. She gave me another marvelous BJ when we got back to bed, which I had to stop before blowing my load prematurely. I slipped on a condom and we started going at it in mish. The sex was very tender and affectionate with me holding her head and showering her face with my kisses. I could feel her getting ready to come, but again she held back, saying she was to tired. Because of my stupid illness I was tired too. After going through the full range of positions I finally got her in doggy. I worked myself up to the climax as I pounded her soft little derriere from behind, her moaning the entire time. We collapsed in one heap, falling asleep as we cuddling in each others' arms.
I woke up staring at her cute little face and let her sleep for a while before I started rubbing her gently. Her pussy was wet and we went for another round. She was very wet and seemed to be enjoying it, but again held back from coming. Saying she did not want to get too tired. I would not take no for an answer and I began eating her out lapping up he pussy until she came. She returned the favor and I soon pulled out of her mouth to spray my jizz all over her pretty little chest.
This time I did not want her to leave and I asked her to stay with me through the afternoon. I worked on the computer in bed as she cuddled next to me and dozed off for a few hours. I really liked having her around, though I did not manage to get very much done work wise.
She finally left around 4 PM, saying that she had some errands to run. I paid her the 2 K I owed her and walked her down to catch a Songtaw.
I was feeling pretty hungry and after showering and getting ready I decided to give Mike's Mexican a try. Not bad, but a bit pricey. A burrito plate and beer set me back about 400 baht). Tasty but I was a little put off that my Burrito had gravy all over it. I think I prefer Sam's in Jomtien, which is more no-frills California taqueria style.
After all the sex from the last two nights my muscles were sore and knotted up. I decided I really needed a massage. I heard that Sabai massage on Beach Road north of Central was good, so I went over there to check it out. A fantastic experience! I got a one hour Thai massage for 200 Baht. The lady wasn't attractive at all and but I was not there for monkey business. I really just wanted a massage. And she worked me over good. It hurt like hell in the beginning but after my muscles relaxed it felt absolutely amazing. Just what the doctor ordered. Next trip I will make a point of getting a 2 hr massage immediately after getting off the plane. She did try to sell me on a HJ, stroking me through my undies and asking if "he also wanted a massage", but I told her I had just come for the massage because I had boom boomed too much over the last few days. She laughed and said I was a very lovely man. Sure. LOL.
Amazing deal and great experience. 200 Baht for the massage and another 200 tip for the lady. The only drawback is that the AC was on full blast in there. This was not good for my cold and I was starting to feel pretty bad again.
I was still feeling sick by the time I got home and decided to stay in and nurse my cold. I guess I could have called her over, but I decided against it. What I needed was to take my medicine and get a good night's sleep. I hated losing a day of vacation. But it would get me closer to getting well and being my old self again. And I had enough sex to be sated. Recharging the batteries would not be a bad idea.
Plus I was growing very fond of the girl and had to check myself. It helped that she was very realistic about things and new the limits of our relationship as well. And though we were very compatible sexually and I enjoyed sleeping with her very much, she didn't really have the tight young body I craved. Her body showed the signs of giving birth. She herself said she wanted to have her tummy tucked and to get her boobs done. I daydreamed about paying for these and making her my mia noi. Maybe if I win the lottery one day!
I had gone back to the well and taken a log deep drink. But I had to be careful not to fall in and drown!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615799]We also talked about her dowry (she said it would be 3 million Baht). I said for that money she should at least be ready to cook for me. She joked, "Can cook, but don't know if you can eat (what I cook). ".[/QUOTE]She really has a strange sense of humour! Being a working girl and having had a baby already, she is now considered "damaged goods" by the Thai and does not rate a dowry anymore. Stickman has a nice article about sin sot: [URL]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/Weekly/weekly239.htm[/URL].
I have been in PAt for 2. 5 days. It is cool and not busy.
THE GOOD.
The best looking women here are Russians, the Ladyboys and the girl I brought with me. The Tailors are good BUT negotiate, go in with a list and then get some quotes I have some beautiful clothes being made, it pays to shop around.
The food here is AMAZING, I will point out a place because we ate here tonight, on a scale of 1 - 10 it was an 8 for decor and the prices the same as the street, food was amazing: Siamese Cuisine is the name on Pattya_Naklug Rd. As a footnote saw an older white guy with a kid all dressed up, drinking wine and fine dining, YIKES find a girl that can keep her elbows of the table, like one of us said earlier good food and fancy rest wasted.
The weather is good, nice and cool some rain. I am in the Baywalk Residence, great room, large, close to Walking Street.
Visited the Devils Den with my girl, that was worth the price of admission. Jane has a completely smoking body with a great big Clit and truly came 3 times. My girl liked it also, more to come. Sadly my energy levels are low from 1. 5 days of straight travel.
Thai massage is great love it as always.
The place is clean and the streets not crowded.
The BAD.
Walking street other than the Ladyboys and Russians. Took my girl to the Pussy Show, don't! The 3rd biggest LB I ever saw dragged us up to a gogo, if they are upstairs then YIKES, 1 girl out of 8 I would fuck and I am frankly not that fussy.
General rule if there are Male Shills it aint worth attending.
I spent over 5000 baht and we did not get drunk or laid.
The Beach and Water is DISGUSTING and I mean that tuned me off big time.
I have literally only seen 3 smiles since I am here and I asked 2 of them to smile Iam a friendly out going positive fellow but it is wasted here, the Foriengers here are not so happy wither. Its like we are in a Fuck Factory and the UNION just announced no more viagra will be dispensed.
IF you love Thailand like I do, this is truly the asshole of Thailand. This is not the Thailand I fell in love with 13 years ago.
Very few people here understand rudimentary English, worst I have ever experienced (this is my 15th trip only my 2nd to Pattaya) best interaction I had to date with a service person was the Guy at DD, polite professional and proper. The wait staff are rude and frankly terrible I think I will stop tipping them.
The UGLY.
The Thai women and the attitude. I swear and I am not a drinker that I am interested in about 1 in 12 of the women here maybe 1 in 15 if you seek 19 year old hard body good frickin luck. The women here are simply the Dregs of Thailand. I am surprised at how ugly and unattractive they are missing "A good heart and a great smile" and those go along way and I have seen few of those. Top to bottom the people here are not that happy to see you. A bargain on Beach road is a long long shot.
Now the women have not been rude but they simply are not warm and beguiling like days of yesteryear and they are not physically attractive to me.
My attractive partner can not even get a second look in a GO GO bar as we seek good 3 somes.
Moving to the Penthouse soon looking for a few folks to party with.
So far rather disappointed but staying positive.
PP.
Perhaps calling myself a Pattaya millionaire was in accurate. But, that is the way the girls make me feel when I have no problem paying 1500 baht, barfine, a few LD's and a promise of a good tip if they rock my world. I am talking GFE all the way with eye candy I can only dream about. A once a year visit puts me at a disadvantage even with all the intelligence on this website. I get there and things have changed or at least changed that day or night for me. So, I have to react fast. Early bird gets the worm. And yes I try to get the lady at a lower price point, but I qualify what I am looking for and demand by uping the price a little bit and bingo, usually she is mine. If she bites I usually am very happy. IMHO you do have several price points. It all depends on your looks, your rap, and how much your willing to invest in the experience. I have been told it also depends on the weather and the time after midnight. Pattaya is a place for Bargain Hunters for sure, but only if you got game or flexible time.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1615525]It does make sense that you would rather want to pay more to a FL in order to avoid the hassle of having a nasty experience.
That said, I think, Pattaya is a place for bargain hunters and it is possible to find a decent lay at any price point. I personally would not pay Bangkok service rates for girls in Pattaya, not that any one mongers spending will affect the market, it's just that IMHO if it is possible to have the girl for a lesser amount it may be worth a try to offer a lower amount first and then agree somewhere in between. Although, I do tip, poor to bad service will get a nominal tip and exemplary service will fetch a very good tip from me. After all not everyone visiting Pattaya can spend like a 2 week millionaire.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]IThe UGLY.
The Thai women and the attitude. I swear and I am not a drinker that I am interested in about 1 in 12 of the women here maybe 1 in 15 if you seek 19 year old hard body good frickin luck.
PP.[/QUOTE]I think you are looking at the glass as being half full. Considering the tens of thousands of working girls here 1 out of 15 works out to be pretty good numbers.
I agree with your stats. It does take a lot of work. But I was generally able to score a great session with a very attractive girl most nights I went out "hunting". But it does take legwork and patience.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]I have literally only seen 3 smiles since I am here and I asked 2 of them to smile Iam a friendly out going positive fellow but it is wasted here, the Foriengers here are not so happy wither. Its like we are in a Fuck Factory and the UNION just announced no more viagra will be dispensed. [/QUOTE]Not my experience at all. Girls smiling and asking "go with you" all the time. I lost count well into day 2. THE problem is finding an attractive one, not a willing one.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]
The BAD.
Took my girl to the Pussy Show, don't! The 3rd biggest LB I ever saw dragged us up to a gogo, if they are upstairs then YIKES, 1 girl out of 8 I would fuck and I am frankly not that fussy.
I have literally only seen 3 smiles since I am here and I asked 2 of them to smile Iam a friendly out going positive fellow but it is wasted here, the Foriengers here are not so happy wither. Its like we are in a Fuck Factory and the UNION just announced no more viagra will be dispensed.
PP.[/QUOTE]LOL, interesting analogy. One theory of why you met folks with less of a smile could be that you were accompanied by your girl in most cases (assume). Just a thought, the thai WG would smile at an unaccompanied man looking for a good time.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615799]
I woke up around noon still feeling a little sick. When will I be done with this damned cold!
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Hope you recovered from the cold and were able to enjoy the rest of the trip. It can be such a bummer to be down and out in LoS.
Enjoying your report as always. Discussing sin sot, LOL, must have been interesting.
About to hit town next week.
Still haven't found that " go to " restaurant for the the best steaks. If any of you "Street Vets " got any suggestions, it will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1615908]Perhaps calling myself a Pattaya millionaire was in accurate. But, that is the way the girls make me feel when I have no problem paying 1500 baht, barfine, a few LD's and a promise of a good tip if they rock my world. [/QUOTE]Everyone who is looking to pick up girls from a Go-Go or a bar is likely to do that, paying the [B]fixed[/B] ST rate, buying a few drinks and [B]tipping[/B]. IMHO, that will not put you in the category of a two week millionaire. Ringing the bell and buying rounds for the entire bar regularly will certainly be considered tip toeing on the line of the "2 week millionaire" (no definition to fall back on!)
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1615908]I am talking GFE all the way with eye candy I can only dream about. A once a year visit puts me at a disadvantage even with all the intelligence on this website. I get there and things have changed or at least changed that day or night for me. So, I have to react fast. Early bird gets the worm.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1615908]And yes I try to get the lady at a lower price point, but I qualify what I am looking for and demand by uping the price a little bit and bingo, usually she is mine. If she bites I usually am very happy. IMHO you do have several price points. It all depends on your looks, your rap, and how much your willing to invest in the experience. I have been told it also depends on the weather and the time after midnight. Pattaya is a place for Bargain Hunters for sure, but only if you got game or flexible time.[/QUOTE]That's looking for a bargain, if you try to get the lady to lower her price. In many cases I have seen (and pointed out by others as well) the girls just say "upto you" in which case I either clarify the price or just pay the standard THB 1000 with a tip depending on service.
Looks and rap matter more in lowering prices than people give it credit.
[QUOTE=StarChildXXX;1616016]About to hit town next week.
Still haven't found that " go to " restaurant for the the best steaks. If any of you "Street Vets " got any suggestions, it will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Beefeaters on Soi Diana close to Second Rd. Not cheap but still worth every baht.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615352]Maybe I've been overpaying? I guess I could hold out for a better price. But paying 15-30 bucks more to ensure that the girls stays in a good mood and that the session is stellar (which almost all of mine have been) is worth it to me. Especially since I can only get out there twice a year and am only there for a short time. Wasting a time is a lot more costly for me in the long run than paying a little more.
Just my 2 Cents. Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]When you go look for a girl, you are spending the time to make your rounds. When you don't find one at the first place, you move on to the next location. And when you do find the next one, and buy her a drink, sometimes that does not work out either (for various reasons). Of course it all depends on the connection you feel at that time. So we all have to spend the 'time' looking and more important checking for chemistry.
I don't think spending more money guarantees that the girl will be in a good mood or give great performance.
If the girl likes a guy she will go for his price or will ask for a little bit more. But personally I don't give more than 1500.
I can understand your view of not wanting to loss more time, after you find the one you like. So you can just grab her NOW for 2000 or so baht. Thats cool. As long as you are happy. Especially if you don't want to look more. I'm glad that works out most of the time for you. I have only spent 2000 baht three times (in 14 trips). Once in Bangkok and twice in Pattaya. Two times I was lucky because the performance was great. The other one was just ok (I met her at a gogo and she came over after work). She was nice, sweet, and friendly (both at night and the next day). But the service was lackluster. Maybe she was inexperienced. So paying more doesn't guarantee great performance.
In my opintion, 1000 to 1500 is the going rate. That's a good amount of money for the girl. Consider this, many shop and hotel workers here make about 15,000 Baht per month. If they work in a family mart or 7-11 they make about 10 - 12,000 baht per month. So if the girl gets 1000-1500 for 1 night, that's good money. She can work 10 to 15 days and make the same amount in those 2 weeks as someone working a whole month.
[QUOTE=StarChildXXX;1616016]About to hit town next week.
Still haven't found that " go to " restaurant for the the best steaks. If any of you "Street Vets " got any suggestions, it will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Two steak places on the back side of Soi Diana (across from Mike's Shopping Mall.
Another good one about 2-300 m up the road on Soi Lengkee. Just opened up last month.
Go up soi Diana and keep walking straight. Cross the next intersection and the street name changes to soi Lengkee. The steak place is half way down on the left.
* Better prices at this place.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]I have been in PAt for 2. 5 days. It is cool and not busy......
So far rather disappointed but staying positive.
PP.[/QUOTE]Check your PM.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1615908]Perhaps calling myself a Pattaya millionaire was in accurate. But, that is the way the girls make me feel when I have no problem paying 1500 baht, barfine, a few LD's and a promise of a good tip if they rock my world. I am talking GFE all the way with eye candy I can only dream about. A once a year visit puts me at a disadvantage even with all the intelligence on this website. I get there and things have changed or at least changed that day or night for me. So, I have to react fast. Early bird gets the worm. And yes I try to get the lady at a lower price point, but I qualify what I am looking for and demand by uping the price a little bit and bingo, usually she is mine. If she bites I usually am very happy. IMHO you do have several price points. It all depends on your looks, your rap, and how much your willing to invest in the experience. I have been told it also depends on the weather and the time after midnight. Pattaya is a place for Bargain Hunters for sure, but only if you got game or flexible time.[/QUOTE]As long as you are having fun and enjoying your time. That's what is important. And for just one visit per year you should enjoy.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1616111]
I don't think spending more money guarantees that the girl will be in a good mood or give great performance. [/QUOTE]Exactly, couldn't have articulated it better myself.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1616105]Beefeaters on Soi Diana close to Second Rd. Not cheap but still worth every baht.[/QUOTE]
Good location in the central part of town, with an upscale dining room. You can eat inside, or outside in a little cafe that's protected from the rain. Lots of options for those craving red meat, plus a Mexican buffet on weekend afternoons. More reviews and lots of photos here:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293919-d1151736-Reviews-Beefeater-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html
Bunky
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1616111]I don't think spending more money guarantees that the girl will be in a good mood or give great performance.
If the girl likes a guy she will go for his price or will ask for a little bit more. But personally I don't give more than 1500.
[/QUOTE]I appreciate your perspective and you may be right. I will try to bargain down next trip -- maybe on a girl that I am not a 100% into and won't really mind if she doesn't go with me.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1615963]Hope you recovered from the cold and were able to enjoy the rest of the trip. It can be such a bummer to be down and out in LoS.
Enjoying your report as always. Discussing sin sot, LOL, must have been interesting.[/QUOTE]Thanks Action. I did indeed recover and I ended the trip with a bang. As you shall see in the last few posts.
But the illness really slowed me down and was one of the big reasons I kept taking th saem girl all the time, not having enough energy for the hunt.
Overall August was a good time for hunting. The overall quality of girls was down a bit, as its low low season. But I did not find it to be as hot and you are much more comfortable outdoors wandering around looking for girls. I just wish that I had more days in the trip where I was up for it.
As for sin sot it really was all a little joke / game we played. TO keep things light. I really enjoyed my time with this girls and hope to see her again. Though I probably won't spend as much time with her next trip.
I slept in until the afternoon and woke up feeling much, much better. I was finally starting to get over this damned cold. Got some work done and then headed out to hit the town. I was feeling a wee bit of cabin fever and needed to get out of the house to interact with other humans.
I hopped a Songtaw and made it out to walking street. The plan was to go out and explore Sois 7 and 8 a little bit. I had never taken a girl form there and I remembered seeing a few lookers while I was out wandering there the night before on my way to Sabai Massage is located.
It was about 6-7 PM now, just ready to get dark and the night was just starting for the girls on the Sois. I grabbed a beer at 7-ll and strolled up and down the Soi, checking out the scene. A lot of fugglies that were well past their expiration date. But a few cuties mixed in too. Maybe 4-5 that I would consider taking.
From Soi 8 I turned into the ally that leads into Soi 7, passing the Pig and Whistle. I spotted a real cutie just outside the big beer bar that opens up out of that ally. Young, fresh and with the kind of curves I was looking for after all the spinner action I'd been getting lately. She must be new to the game because she spoke zero English and was actually a little startled when I approached. Her friends offered to translate for me but I thought better of it and decided to move on, complimenting her on her looks and bidding them a nice evening. I wish I had been able to demonstrate the same kind of foresight later in the evening.
I kept walking up and down Soi 7, nursing my beer. A curvy little cutie jumped out at me form the big beer bar complex towards the end of the Soi, on the left as you go down to BR. I got her name and copped a feel of her nice round little tiitties. But I still wasn't ready to commit to anything so I moved on. After evaluating all the other prospects on the So, I decided to go back and buy her and LD. The plan wasn't necessarily to take her as I wanted to hit up I-Bar or RC later and find and FL. However I was open to anything.
I bought and LD and we chit chatted for a while as I caressed her curvy legs and thighs. She seemed cool but the spark was king of missing, though she did compliment me on having nice eyes. I bought a couple more rounds for us, hoping that the drinks would make her come around. But I was getting tipsy too, and this was perhaps impairing my judgment. I asked if she wanted me to BF her for LT. She said she couldn't do LT because she had to be at the bar by 1 M to talk to her BF on skype. Apparently this is some kind of ritual they have to assure she is faithful to him. But she did agree to come and stay with me until midnight for 1500 Baht. I paid our check and the 300 Baht barfine and we were on our way.
Along the way we stopped for dinner and it sobered me up a little. The girl had kind of a bitchy little attitude and she wasn't as attractive as my first impression of her Her body was a little saggy for her 24 years. I was having serious buyer's remorse and even considered ditching her at the restaurant when I went to the bathroom. But I thought this would be a real asshole move and decided to soldier on.
Things were no better when we got to the apartment. She wouldn't kiss and instead of hanging out and warming up she was intent that we shower an start with the sex. A sure fire sign that she wanted to rush and run. The kicker was when she poked me in the stomach an said it was like jelly. I would have taken this in stride had she said it in a playful or joking way. But this girl was being mean and at this point I just wanted her to leave. I gave her 500 Baht and told her to get going. She didn't protest al that much and I was just happy to see her leave.
I can understand if she did not find me attractive and did not meant to be there But then she shouldn't have gone with me in the first place.
I wasn't ready to call it a night. I firmly believe you have to get back on the horse right away after she bucks you. It was only 9:30 PM and way too early to go anywhere. I hung out around the house in a foul mood and then set off for WS around 11:30.
Got to WS and headed to I-Bar. Not much going on there. Perhaps a bit too early. Made eye contact with a couple of girls but none was all that appealing. And after my debacle with Soi 7 girl I was feeling a bit more self-conscious about approaching girls in groups. So I bounced and headed over to true and trusty RC.
It must have been around 12:30 by now and RC was pretty lively. I saw Gaew by the bar being chatted up by some guy. They seemed to be having a good time, though she was not hugging and kissing on him like she as with me the first night we met. So I really wasn't all that jealous.
I talked to a few girls but couldn't really find anyone I wanted to take home. Problem was that they looked good form a distance, but much less so when I want up to talk to them. I eventually started chatting and dancing with a taller slim and sexy girl. She was down to go with me and I was able to negotiate 2000 for LT. But she wasn't all that affectionate --I couldn't even get a kiss from her. She was also with an older girl who seemed to be advising her on what to do.
All the while I was watching Gaew from the corner of my eye. She was still talking to the same guy and it seemed like they were getting along.
At one poitn she went to the bathroom for kind of a long time, leaving the guy alone. Maybe she was giving me a chance to swoop in and steal her away? IN any case I was still working the tall chick and let it pass. She eventually left with the guy. I couldn't help feel a little twinge of jealousy. But I understood that the girl was just doing her job and I am sure she would have preferred to go with me if I had given her the choice.
I was left with the tall slim girl, and against my better judgment took her home. In the apartment she refused to kiss saying she had a sore on her mouth. She also insisted I pay her up front and would just not let up on this issue. I was pretty fed up at this point and gave her 500 and told her to leave. The second such debacle of the evening!
I was feeling pretty crappy at this point and I went downstairs to get some smokes. The nice young doorman told me that all the shops were closed, but let me bum some smokes form him. I ran upstairs to get some beers and we chatted for about half an hour. Him telling me about his life. Very nice guy and I was grateful to him for the company.
Went to bed alone the 2nd night in a row!
Lesson leaned I had been too hasty in my choice and ignored the warning signs with both girls. I should have been patient and moved on to another instead of forcing the issue. Also I was getting spoiled. I probably could have shagged both girls and busted a nut. But I had gotten too used to getting GFE quality lays.
Stay tuned for the next episode where Uncle-V goes back to basics with his tail between his legs.
And stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616244]
Stay tuned for the next episode where Uncle-V goes back to basics with his tail between his legs.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]With the exception of this night, you seem to be living it up. Great reports -- looking forward to the final installments.
And, IMHO, you haven't been overpaying!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616244]
I was feeling pretty crappy at this point and I went downstairs to get some smokes. The nice young doorman told me that all the shops were closed, but let me bum some smokes form him. I ran upstairs to get some beers and we chatted for about half an hour. Him telling me about his life. Very nice guy and I was grateful to him for the company.
Went to bed alone the 2nd night in a row!
Lesson leaned I had been too hasty in my choice and ignored the warning signs with both girls. I should have been patient and moved on to another instead of forcing the issue. Also I was getting spoiled. I probably could have shagged both girls and busted a nut. But I had gotten too used to getting GFE quality lays.
Stay tuned for the next episode where Uncle-V goes back to basics with his tail between his legs.
And stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Really unfortunate that you picked two girls and both were duds, revives one horrid memory.
What is the point of providing such crappy service that the punter loses interest in the service provider and regrets his decision. Wish there was a fool proof vetting mechanism, but I guess there isn't, one needs to basically hope for the best.
Thanks for reporting the debacles.
I'm glad you guys are enjoying the reports.
With the exception of Monday's debacle and the days I was too sick to go out I had an absolute blast and find myself daydreaming about going back at least 10 times every day.
I think you will enjoy the final installments. Where I definitely come back strong!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
Uncle V. you are dripping with wisdom. At least I hope its wisdom. I am learning a lot from your posts and am glad you are feeling better and that you are back in the game. Can't wait to hear more.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616332]I'm glad you guys are enjoying the reports.
With the exception of Monday's debacle and the days I was too sick to go out I had an absolute blast and find myself daydreaming about going back at least 10 times every day.
I think you will enjoy the final installments. Where I definitely come back strong!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.[/QUOTE]
Uncle V.
Thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to post your trip reports, for me it is just like being in town myself.
It's funny really that Pattaya is a roller coaster ride for most of us. I also like the GFE and going around the bars 'interviewing' the girls costs me too much on lady drinks before I hopefully find a good one, doesn't always work though.
This next trip I will not buy a girl a drink until she has answered some questions how I want to hear. .
That just made me remember, last February in Hua Hin, I was sitting out front on a bar on Soi Bintabaht and in the opposite bar was a girl smiling at me, she then said, " you remember me?" So I got up and walked across, shared a few words then Paid bar for her without even going into the bar, who said Romance was dead?
Keep up the great reports and I am looking forward to the next one.
Appreciate the feedback on the Steak Houses.
Shout out to Bunky, Awesome Man, Pipe Layer and anyone I might of missed.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]Took my girl to the Pussy Show, don't! The 3rd biggest LB I ever saw dragged us up to a gogo, if they are upstairs then YIKES, 1 girl out of 8 I would fuck and I am frankly not that fussy. I spent over 5000 baht and we did not get drunk or laid.[/QUOTE]You will not get drunk buying single drinks on Walking Street. The liquor for the general population is severely watered down. You have to buy an unopened bottle at the establishment if you want the true alcohol content.
I woke up lonely and disappointed from the night before. I was feeling pretty low. So I IM'd Gaew to see what she was up to and apologize for ignoring her at the RC the night before. Again she was perplexed by my apology and said there was nothing to be sorry for. What a woman! We set a date for 9 PM that night. This lifted my spirits and I told her I was happy to see her again. She said she was happy too.
I did some work, tidied up and went off to see Chris, my tailor at AMA tailoring. I can't recommend the place enough. They have done some great work for me over the last two trips. I had 3 shirts and two pants done this time. All of very high quality and fitting me perfectly. And for a a very reasonable 7800 baht. Truly a great deal.
It was really good to see Chris and the gang at AMA. Over the last couple of visits we have developed a friendly rapport, laughing and joking all the time. Besides the girls I've met in Patts Chris is the closest to a real friend I have living in the city. We set a date for dinner the next day at 7 PM, right after my fitting at the shop.
I made it home from Chris' stocked up the fridge with Heinekens (Gaew's favorite) and waited for her to arrive. Sure enough she was there at 9 PM sharp as promised. We took a nice romantic walk along the beach, holding hands and laughing and talking the whole time. Being with her really lifted my spirits and lightened my heart. As we got ice cream I felt like a kid out on a date with my high school sweetheart.
After getting to the bed we settled in the room to watch some TV. She jokingly rebuffed my advances, saying "you like boom-boom too much! I told her that I didn't want to boom-boom, just to hug her. Our hugging led to caressing, caressing to deep french kissing, and soon her panties were off and we were going at it. The love making was very warm and tender, releasing all the negative energy I had accumulated from the debacle from the day before She didn't hold back her orgasm this time, coming as I slid in and out of her in mish. It felt wonderful to hold her in my arms as she came. I let go soon after, coming as I pumped away at her in doggy her moaning in ecstasy the whole time. We were both pretty tired and we drifted off to sleep.
We awoke in the morning for round two. This time we were both too tired to come. But the love making was still very enjoyable and got my motor running. What a great way to start the day!
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616715]What a great way to start the day!
[/QUOTE]Good stuff Uncle V, reading your report was a great way to start my day :D
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616715]I did some work, tidied up and went off to see Chris, my tailor at AMA tailoring. I can't recommend the place enough. They have done some great work for me over the last two trips. I had 3 shirts and two pants done this time. All of very high quality and fitting me perfectly. And for a a very reasonable 7800 baht. Truly a great deal.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen your items, but I would say that about 5000 baht is the most that should be paid for 2 pants and 3 shirts anywhere in Pattaya. Even my tailor would always give me a price and I would say negative, I will give you such and such. Now, I have sent him so many customers that I can not remember the last time I have had to pay for anything he has made for me. He actually forces me to get things made because I don't need another stitch of clothing. I haven't worn half of the stuff that he has already made for me because I am usually in shorts and flip flops.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1617056]I haven't seen your items, but I would say that about 5000 baht is the most that should be paid for 2 pants and 3 shirts anywhere in Pattaya. Even my tailor would always give me a price and I would say negative, I will give you such and such. Now, I have sent him so many customers that I can not remember the last time I have had to pay for anything he has made for me. He actually forces me to get things made because I don't need another stitch of clothing. I haven't worn half of the stuff that he has already made for me because I am usually in shorts and flip flops.[/QUOTE]Actually I redid the calculations in my head and it was 6800 - 1900 each for pants and 1000 for the shirts.
Where is your tailor? I may give him a try next time.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1617084]Actually I redid the calculations in my head and it was 6800 - 1900 each for pants and 1000 for the shirts.
Where is your tailor? I may give him a try next time.[/QUOTE]I deal with Jimmy at HiFi right down from Baywalk. He is making a crocodile jacket for me for 25K baht. I saw the same jacket in MBK in Bangkok for 100K baht. [URL]http://www.farangfriendly.com/hi-fi-fashion-j-house-pattaya-beach-road[/URL].
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1617095]I deal with Jimmy at HiFi right down from Baywalk. He is making a crocodile jacket for me for 25K baht. I saw the same jacket in MBK in Bangkok for 100K baht. [URL]http://www.farangfriendly.com/hi-fi-fashion-j-house-pattaya-beach-road[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank for the tip.
The jacket sounds amazing. Please post a pic when its finished!
Guys I admit this report is a bit repetitive. I am just trying to document my time a accurately as possible. I promise, though, that thing swill get a lot more lively in the last 3 reports!
Day 8 - Wednesday.
Gaew left and I paid her the usual 2 K. I got some tasty tacos at Sam's and proceeded to get some work done. Also had a dip and the nice pool downstairs. Due to my stupid illness I hadn't really had a chance to take advantage of the wonderful facilities down stairs. After my swim I stopped to get a soda at the minimart downstairs and flirted with the cashier lady. A real MILF. Early to mid 30's. Nice ripe body. Beautiful face -- more Malayan than Thai if that makes sense. She always had a smile for me when she caught me checking her out as I passed her store. I toyed with the idea of asking her out, but I am pretty sure she is married to the farang owner of the place.
Had a great dinner with Chris after my fitting. (I was super happy with the clothes, the quality is just amazing for the price). He took me to an Indian place just down the street from his shop (On Central Rd) called ALi Baba. I know the name of the place is super cheesy. As is the "Open Sesame" decor. But the food was absolutely delicious. I had lamb vindalu and he had a nice fish tiki massala. Chris was nice enough to pick up the bill, adamantly refusing my pleas to at least split the bill. What a great guy!
Chris had an appointment with some customers after dinner so I wandered along BR checking out the FLs. Plenty of good prospects there, but they were all reluctant to go all the way to Jomtien that early in the evening. I will definitely have to relocate next trip to take full advantage of the BR action.
Made it all the way to WS and decided to check out a gogo. Opted to go old school and try Super Baby. I had had some good luck in there in the past and they always seemed to have very hot girls. On par with Rainbow 4 in BKK. And last time I had heard that the place was good in the early evening as well. But it turned out to be a real disappointment. The lineup was not very good at all and the girls were listless and unenthusiastic. I left after about 15 minutes, not having even finished my beer.
Feeling lazy and tired I IMed Gaew to meet me at home and we spent another wonderful night together. I will spare you all the details this time.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616244]
I was left with the tall slim girl, and against my better judgment took her home. In the apartment she refused to kiss saying she had a sore on her mouth. She also insisted I pay her up front and would just not let up on this issue. I was pretty fed up at this point and gave her 500 and told her to leave. The second such debacle of the evening!
I was feeling pretty crappy at this point and I went downstairs to get some smokes. The nice young doorman told me that all the shops were closed, but let me bum some smokes form him. I ran upstairs to get some beers and we chatted for about half an hour. Him telling me about his life. Very nice guy and I was grateful to him for the company.
Went to bed alone the 2nd night in a row!
Lesson leaned I had been too hasty in my choice and ignored the warning signs with both girls. I should have been patient and moved on to another instead of forcing the issue. Also I was getting spoiled. I probably could have shagged both girls and busted a nut. But I had gotten too used to getting GFE quality lays.
Stay tuned for the next episode where Uncle-V goes back to basics with his tail between his legs.
And stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Your experience is no different from that of many. Yes, you can find a decent lay in some of the places near Walking Street but you have to be lucky. While sex in Pattaya is cheap, your mileage can really vary. I have had the worst sex of my life in Pattaya!
For me, Pattaya is all about freelancers on Beach Road. You have to have your wits about you at all times so as to screen out the druggies, ladyboys etc. But you can often get one who does not speak much English but if you are nice to her you can have a really good time. A few years ago they used to be 500 baht for ST, now probably 600 or more.
Unfortunately Pattaya's finest do their frequent crackdowns and the Beach Road is cleared. Then I resort to the bars that are further away from Walking Street, in North Pattaya and Jomtien.
I don't know the massage scene in Pattaya but generally that is the way I go elsewhere in Thailand, especially in Bangkok where you are almost guaranteed a good time in the right place and you don't have to worry about your stuff or safety due to jealous boyfriends or scams. The idea of going out to get beer goggles in order to pick up a pro when my judgement is lacking just does not seem to be worth it any more.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1617159]
so I wandered along BR checking out the FLs. Plenty of good prospects there, but they were all reluctant to go all the way to Jomtien that early in the evening. I will definitely have to relocate next trip to take full advantage of the BR action.
[/QUOTE]This is a bit strange. Was in Jomtien Jan-Apr this year, because of cheap accomodation. Never had problems with the girls from BR, going to my place. But only LT, of course.
So my first question was, whether they agree on LT, or not.
Quite a few refused, but for LT it should not matter, whether staying in bed or in the baht-bus.
For a longer stay in Pattaya, Jomtien is the place for me to be, because of lower prices and more "peace", if just lying at beach or pool.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]I have been in PAt for 2. 5 days. It is cool and not busy.
THE GOOD.
The best looking women here are Russians, the Ladyboys and the girl I brought with me. The Tailors are good BUT negotiate, go in with a list and then get some quotes I have some beautiful clothes being made, it pays to shop around.
The food here is AMAZING, I will point out a place because we ate here tonight, on a scale of 1 - 10 it was an 8 for decor and the prices the same as the street, food was amazing: Siamese Cuisine is the name on Pattya_Naklug Rd. As a footnote saw an older white guy with a kid all dressed up, drinking wine and fine dining, YIKES find a girl that can keep her elbows of the table, like one of us said earlier good food and fancy rest wasted.
The weather is good, nice and cool some rain. I am in the Baywalk Residence, great room, large, close to Walking Street.
Visited the Devils Den with my girl, that was worth the price of admission. Jane has a completely smoking body with a great big Clit and truly came 3 times. My girl liked it also, more to come. Sadly my energy levels are low from 1. 5 days of straight travel.
Thai massage is great love it as always.
The place is clean and the streets not crowded..[/QUOTE]I think the real kicker with the beach is that there are so many rats along beach road, then when you reach the end of beach road just before walking street there is the hummm of sewage and there is a lorry pumping out the over loaded drains directly into the sea. Hmmm.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]
IF you love Thailand like I do, this is truly the asshole of Thailand. This is not the Thailand I fell in love with 13 years ago.
...
Now the women have not been rude but they simply are not warm and beguiling like days of yesteryear and they are not physically attractive to me.
[/QUOTE]Very well put.
Thursday.
Another nice session in the late morning after we woke up and Gaew left. I have really grown fond of this girl and we still stay in touch on LINE. I hope we get t spend some time together next trip, in January. Though, she may be visiting her folks back on the farm at that time.
Got some grub after walking Gaew to the Songtaw and I got some work done for the next few hours. I had an appointment to pick up my clothes at AMA tailors at 8 PM. But I got a terrible cut shaving and could not stop the bleeding (BASTARD! So I didn't get there until almost 9 PM. The clothes were perfect and I wish I had more stuff done. I definitely look forward to returning next trip. Maybe I'll even get a suit next time.
My plan was to get a soapy and then meet up with Gaew later. I had promised her a few days ago that we would play pool before e left and I wanted t surprise her that I remembered. I really appreciated the quality time we had spent together and I wanted to do something nice for her.
But first things first, it was time to put a little variety back in my diet. I headed to Honey 2, as this Soapy has gotten the best write ups as of late (thanks SirLanceALot! I was worried I was showing up a little late, as it was already past 11:30 and I had heard the best time to do the soapy was 6-8. But the lineup was good, with plenty of sexy girls, many of them waving to me to take them -- I am a hansum man, after all!. FOr those that don' know there drill there are two categories of girls there. Regular, for 1800 for 90 min, and Models (denoted by an M before their number) for 2200. The models are definitely prettier as a group, though there were also some gems in the regular category, including one slightly older (but very sexy) 30 something that waved to me very enthusiastically to take her. I would say there were about 20 girls there all told, 10 of which I would do and 5-6 that I would take VERY enthusiastically.
M71 from Sir Ls reports was there and she was really sexy. She was also eager for me to take her: winking, waving and even blowing kisses at me. This girl is flat out gorgeous. But she kind of has the same look as my Gaeew (though I admit Gaew is nowhere near as hot). I was more in the mood for a Chinese looking porcelain skinned curvy girl with a huge rack. M7 seemed to fit the bill to a tee. And though she wasn't up to the same antics as some of the others girls, she did give me a coy little smile when I looked her way, so I decided to take her.
I told the nice mamasan that I wanted M7, paid at the cashier, and soon me and M7 were holding hands as we made our ay up the elevator. (Sorry I forget her name. I think it is Noi. But I am not 100% sure). I let her order herself a drink (she took an Ovaltine -- the sweet little thing) and she was very appreciative. The room was nice and recently renovated. After the barman had delivered the drinks and she had gotten the AC sorted out she striped off her clothes an prepared the bath.
I complimented her on her looks and she said she worked out a few times a week at the gym. She said she liked the way I looked too. She also commented that she thought M71 really liked me, saying I should take her too.
She had a nice athletic body. Solid but very toned. However, her boobs were a little disappointing. Only A cups, and they didn't really fir her full frame. She had definitely had a very padded bra on before. I would have preferred some nice soft and full natural breasts to feel up against my body for my soapy. But all in all she was sexy. Tall, toned and built like an athlete.
She filled up the tub with bubbles and gave me a nice bath, scrubbing and massaging me front and back. She giggled as I grabbed her boobs. Though small they were perky and full and felt very nice. She then prepared the suds for the body massage, whipping them up in the small washtub. It was very sexy to watch her do this. She then instructed me to lie face down on the inflatable mattress and began sliding up and down my back. Stopping every once in a while to nibble my ear. What an amazing feeling! After a few minutes she had me turn over on my side and she slid up and down my side, her chest wedged up against my sides. I could feel her pert boobies up against my bodies. Wonderful stuff!
After a few more delicious minutes of this she stopped ad rinsed me off in the tub. She dried me off and instructed me to go to the bed, while she tidied up and rinsed herself off. She soon joined me on the bed and we began to kiss. To my surprise full on DFK and very passionate. I explored her body with my hands and even slid my fingers between her legs. She then slid on a condom and began giving me a very nice BJ. Though covered it felt absolutely great and I really enjoyed watching her head bob up and down in my lap. She applied some lube and we moved into mish, me nuzzling her neck as she moaned. We kissed passionately and I turned her on top of me.
She rode me passionately as my hands fondled her tits, ass and powerful thighs. I then turned her back into mish and finally into doggy. She was so damned toned and pushed back enthusiastically with her firm little bum as I pounded away -- all the while massagin her back, groping her tits, and fondling her toned athletic thighs.
She was very lubed up and with the condom it was difficult for me to develop enough sensation to cum. But I was thoroughly enjoying the experience. What a great optifuck! After a while I grew tired of the pounding and I was ready to cum. I pulled off the condom and lay on my back with her at the side as she wanked me off all over her perky little tits.
She ran off to the tub to wash herself off, but I called for her to come back and we cuddled and kissed som more. After a few minutes of this I was hard again and I guess I could have one for a quick round 2 - there probably was enough time. But I had had so much sex over the last week and a half that I was more content to cuddle, enjoying my intimacy with this lovely little creature.
Unfortunately my time was up and we got up to go. I gave her a 300 Baht tip and she waied appreciatively, saying she hoped I would visit her again. I thanked her for a lovely time hugging her and groping her body as she giggled. It was a really great experience and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with this girl. But I don't think I will take her again. She really was not my preferred body type (though it was fun to cavort with such an athletic girl). I'd prefer a girl with some more assets up top for my next visit. And there seem to be many more pretty (and willing) girls there to try. Honey 2 - highly recommended!
It was nearly 11:30 by the time I had finished and I strolled around the neighborhood around Honey 2. There were some good beer bars around with some cute girls. And the area seemed a lot cleaner and less chaotic than the neighborhoods to the south of there (Sois 6, 7, 8, Bukhao, LK Metro etc. . I think I will explore this region more throughly my next trip (when I should be staying a lot closer to the action than Jomtien). If I strike out I can always go get a soapy as a consolation prize!
I I'm'D Gaew to ask her to meet me to play some pool on WS and she said she needed same time to get ready. After the nice soapy session I was very hungry and decided to get some food. I was already at WS and decided to go get a quick dinner at the restaurant opposite Lucifer's. This would give me a chance to observe the FLs that congregate out there. I ordered a beer and a delicious Pad Ki Mao and enjoyed the show. Some of these girls were just super hot and I was interested in giving them a try the next night. Though I was weary that some may be LBs.
I waited and waited for Gaew but she was a no show. I IMed her and she said she was waiting for me at Red Car. WTF! I guess there was some miscommunication. I went over to pick her up and she was with a friend of hers. An older girl who was not attractive to me, though not ugly either. When I went to shake her hand I also noticed that her hands were deformed, poor thing. Gaew asked me if her friend could join and I said sure why not. The girls were thrilled! I really am not all that in to pool. I was doing this to make her happy and her happiness gave me great pleasure.
We went over to Marine and played about 6-7 games (which took forever because we were all pretty horrible players. Though Gaew was the best of our bunch). I also bought a few rounds for me and the girls as well. The girls were having a great time and this warmed my heart. I really liked her friend. Though her life must be very hard she had a great attitude and wore a smile that lit up the room.
Gaew knew I wasn't much of a pool enthusiast and I could tell that she was very appreciative I was doing this for her and her friend. She kissed and hugged me all through.
Our games. One of the things I like about these Thai girls is that they appreciate when you do nice things for them. And they are not afraid to show it -- unlike spoiled Western girls with their stupid head games.
After our last game we took our drinks and moved to the dance floor, which was just getting started up. I danced with Gaew and a Frankenstein looking dude danced with her friend. I was happy that she found someone and they seemed to be getting along very well. He seemed like a nice guy and was really into the music, dancing like a maniac. Only in Pattaya!
Soon me and Gaew were ready to leave. As we passed by Lucifer's I pointed out some of the FLs to her that I thought were attractive and Gaew thought they were all LBs. I'd have to give this issue some further study before taking one of them home.
We were both pretty tired when we got back to the condo and we skipped making love for some well needed rest. I was content as we sweetly drifted off to sleep -- clinging to each other tightly.
Gaew had promised to make it up to me in the morning. And she delivered. She pounced on my morning wood as soon as we woke up. We had a nice long session, screwing in every imaginable position and testing out the strength of all the room's furnishings. It was topped off by another amazing BJ from my sweet little girl, with me again finishing in her pretty and willing little mouth.
What a great day! It was nice to get a little variety. But also to finish the night and start the next day in the familiar arms of my favorite part time lover.
In the next episode Uncle V goes back on the hunt and takes down some BIG game.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1617498]This is a bit strange. Was in Jomtien Jan-Apr this year, because of cheap accomodation. Never had problems with the girls from BR, going to my place. But only LT, of course.
So my first question was, whether they agree on LT, or not.
Quite a few refused, but for LT it should not matter, whether staying in bed or in the baht-bus.
For a longer stay in Pattaya, Jomtien is the place for me to be, because of lower prices and more "peace", if just lying at beach or pool.[/QUOTE]I wanted to take them ST. I'm pretty sure they woudl have bene down LT, though it was pretty early in the evening and they may have refused.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1618278] Honey 2 - highly recommended![/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation, from time to time, people do recommend Honey 2 and I have passed the place by on two occasions yet didn't want to go in and waste money because, firstly, I get my fill of soapies in Bangkok and, there are so many cheaper options available elsewhere in Pattaya. However, your excellent report has made me go and try out Honey 2 and take a call myself.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1618278] Though I was weary that some may be LBs.
[/QUOTE]I have also been under the same impression, they are too stunning from a little distance (and too tall) to be working Thai girls. I wonder if you explored this genre on this trip or leaving to confirm doubts for the next trip?
[QUOTE=FunlvGguy;1601630]Hi,
If you plan to bring one more girl / ladyboy for threesome.
1. Normally how much do you pay joiner fee to the hotel for the second guest?
2. How much extra do you pay to the two girls to have the threesome on top of their regular fees?
3. Can anyone suggest how to find / know freelancer or bar girls who are into BDSM (dominant) and kinky activities (rimming, threesome, etc.)?
Thanks[/QUOTE]1) All hotels I ever brought two girls back to had no problems with this. Once I came back to a hotel on WS with four people and the reception did not react at all. Some hotels might be angry if its obvious that people are actually lodging with you for a fee or something.
2) Nothing. You pay them their separate fees. If you want them to eat each others pussies tell them in advance. They might ask extra if you make a big deal about it but I never had such problems they'll be happy that you take two. Many of them have favorite friends and will be happy to make their girlfriend a favor.
3) This you can get from any girl anywhere. Few girls in Pattaya will complain if you spank them or pull their hair or put your ass in their face. If you want to pay very much extra for such services you can go to the castle it is close to walking street but the girls there are not very attractive.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1618294]I wanted to take them ST. [/QUOTE]Ok, but then the refusals are understandable. "Time is Money" .
Excellent report as always UV.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615351]
Just then I saw Dao walk in with her friend. She glanced at me and then quickly looked away and went to the bar. When I tried to approach her to say Hi she just raised up and gave me the "talk to the hand" gesture. Well, I guess Plan be was now shot. I probably could have made amends and sweet talked her, but I wanted to avoid any entanglements with this girl. Still, her rejection did sting just a little bit.
[/QUOTE]I don't really understand how she can justify being so pissy with you. After all, she took payment for sex from you and was probably there looking for another customer!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1615351]
I was ready to try her little pussy. I put on a condom and she busted out some lube and I was soon inside her in mish. Though she moaned with pleasure I could tell she was faking it. She also avoided my attempts to kiss her on the mouth.
[/QUOTE]A general trend I've noticed with working girls around the world and not just Thailand is; if they break out the lube you're going to have issues. But of course once you're at the stage where lube has been produced its too late to change your mind!
All women who do this job are doing it primarily for the cash but I guess if they can get themselves genuinely turned on and wet, they're going to enjoy the sex as well. Which is better for us and them.
[QUOTE=Sammyt;1618403]A general trend I've noticed with working girls around the world and not just Thailand is; if they break out the lube you're going to have issues. But of course once you're at the stage where lube has been produced its too late to change your mind![/QUOTE]That is not necessarily the case. If you don't want her to put on the lube then tell her not to. Or take it from her and throw it across the room. Also, not all women are going to get naturally wet. They make lube for a reason, and not just for hookers who have johns that don't turn them on.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1618460]That is not necessarily the case. If you don't want her to put on the lube then tell her not to. Or take it from her and throw it across the room. Also, not all women are going to get naturally wet. They make lube for a reason, and not just for hookers who have johns that don't turn them on.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr E. Not all the girls using it just because they are pros. Not all girls get wet and it can be very uncomfortable for them without the lube. One of the girls who seemed really into the sex with me (and was a real GFE) used the stuff on me this trip.
Personally I hate the stuff when combined with condoms. Though, I don't know that I would go as far as Mr E and snatch the lube out of her hand and throw it across the room. LOL (Mr E. You crack me up!)
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1618347]Ok, but then the refusals are understandable. "Time is Money" .[/QUOTE]Exactly! That's why I won't be staying in Jomtien next time.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1618299]Thanks for the recommendation, from time to time, people do recommend Honey 2 and I have passed the place by on two occasions yet didn't want to go in and waste money because, firstly, I get my fill of soapies in Bangkok and, there are so many cheaper options available elsewhere in Pattaya. However, your excellent report has made me go and try out Honey 2 and take a call myself.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Action, always good to hear from you buddy.
Believe it or not, I've never gotten around to trying the Soapies in BKK (Nataree, etc.) . But as I understand the Soapies in Pattaya are substantially cheaper.
I can't compare the quality of the girls looks wise. I can't imagine the service could be all that much better in BKK. But then again I will have to try for myself. .
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1618528]Thanks Action, always good to hear from you buddy.
Believe it or not, I've never gotten around to trying the Soapies in BKK (Nataree, etc.) . But as I understand the Soapies in Pattaya are substantially cheaper.
I can't compare the quality of the girls looks wise. I can't imagine the service could be all that much better in BKK. But then again I will have to try for myself. .[/QUOTE]Other than Nataree and Annies, you are correct, the soapies in Patttaya are way cheaper than the other soapies in Bangkok. Even Nataree and Annies, are a mere 200-300 THB more than Honey 2. Service quality is not the top priority at these shops and sometimes the experience at soapies can be a hit or miss. Quality in terms of looks at the Bangkok soapies (in general), as you may have read is very good, I too need to visit one of these shops in Pattaya to come to a conclusion re the overall package.
[QUOTE=OldBugger;1618324]1) All hotels I ever brought two girls back to had no problems with this. Once I came back to a hotel on WS with four people and the reception did not react at all. Some hotels might be angry if its obvious that people are actually lodging with you for a fee or something.
2) Nothing. You pay them their separate fees. If you want them to eat each others pussies tell them in advance. They might ask extra if you make a big deal about it but I never had such problems they'll be happy that you take two. Many of them have favorite friends and will be happy to make their girlfriend a favor.
3) This you can get from any girl anywhere. Few girls in Pattaya will complain if you spank them or pull their hair or put your ass in their face. If you want to pay very much extra for such services you can go to the castle it is close to walking street but the girls there are not very attractive.[/QUOTE]Had a little chuckle at this, few weeks ago in a 4 star hotel come breakfast a Austrailian guy generally brought a different girl to breakfast each morning, which wasnt a problem as had booked in as two, but on one morning had 4 girls with him, which wasnt an issue, accept he had to pay for the 2 additional breakfasts.
Today on Craigslist:
"If you seeking a long term girlfriend or fun for 5 days let me take care of that for you. I am fun, healthy, safe, and I know material arts (so you be safe with me)."
3000B per day and she wants to be paid in advance for a minimum of 5 days. Yeah she's a material girl, that's for sure, LOL!
[URL]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/4662485241.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1619519]Today on Craigslist:
"If you seeking a long term girlfriend or fun for 5 days let me take care of that for you. I am fun, healthy, safe, and I know material arts (so you be safe with me)."
3000B per day and she wants to be paid in advance for a minimum of 5 days. Yeah she's a material girl, that's for sure, LOL!
[URL]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/4662485241.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Be Careful! Never pay advance the first rule of mongering brother.
I prefer to start rhe day with a bang (LOL) but after breakfast. So are there any options to find freelancers in Pattaya around 11 AM and afterwards as well? (not too keen on MPs) as they often have a huge markup. However if there are any FS MPs costing around 1 k bahts, please do let me know.
One thing- Pattaya is full of Eussian lookers but where can I find Russian hookers?
[QUOTE=BigWorld;1619584]Be Careful! Never pay advance the first rule of mongering brother.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the point. That's exactly the reason I made the post.
She wants to be payed in advance and she knows material arts.... Instead of martial arts.... Get it?
It's no fun if you have to explain a joke....
We are two Indian guys planning a trip to Pattaya in November. We hear people from India are not very welcome! Is it still the same or has things got better / worse.
Should we go to Phuket instead? We plan to spend a fair amount of money and really want to have fun.
Would like to have your views / advise.
[QUOTE=Heliix59;1619872]We are two Indian guys planning a trip to Pattaya in November. We hear people from India are not very welcome! Is it still the same or has things got better / worse.
Should we go to Phuket instead? We plan to spend a fair amount of money and really want to have fun.
Would like to have your views / advise.[/QUOTE]True but not entirely. I went through the same dilemma a few years ago when I made my first trip, so let me help you with whatever I can. It took more than 8 trips (not kidding) to Bangkok before I set foot in Pattaya as all I heard was, it's a hole and doesn't welcome Indians. Guess what, since that first trip, I made more than 10 exclusively mongering trips and none of them anywhere else except Pattaya. Don't I love it?
I am an Indian too. Old (late forties) and bald, but a bit athletic built and a bit of money to spare and if you are younger and better looking and the money you said you want to spend then you have it. A few points to note though. Everything that follows is with an Indian perspective so may not be applicable to others.
- Scout through ROD for detailed reports by bro Adrenalin Rush- should be two or three years old or so but the links can be found easily. Great info especially for Indians.
- I always hunt alone as I am comfortable that way. I believe a couple of guys or a group of Indians can probably put off many options. Seen it happening but not necessarily everywhere. Many places it's easy to get in as an individual but a group of Indians could find it tougher. Already two of you. Don't pick anymore.
- Dress appropriately and be well kempt-some of the worst ones on the beach road and walking street are our brothers. Yes other guys are too, but when you are not the preferred type we need to do better.
- take a break from our usually practiced bargaining methods- yes we need to get the right price but we need to know when to pull off and move on rather than push them to agree to what you want- seen it happening too many times on the beach road. We are not bargaining for a thing but setting a price for the time together. Be nice to them.
Lets face it. In spite of whatever we do, there will be places and there shall be girls rejecting bluntly and it hurts- the thing is how quickly we recover and move on and not let it spoil our entire day. I have been told "members only" at some places and some girls outright rejected drinks when I offered them. That includes lady drinks at agogos- the girl didn't bother to get down the stage inspite of mamasan intervening- The point is, would we enjoy an evening with her? - probably money saved? May be thank the babe for not milking me for a few drinks and then leave me alone.
So, why did I make 10 trips and why all mongering trips been to Pattaya only since then? - once you are aware of the facts and find a way around, its loads of fun to be had. I spent more than 90 nights in Pattaya in different seasons and believe me, not once I slept alone unless I wanted rest (mostly from gogos and a few FLs in clubs and very rarely from the beach road. Only if and when I happen to find a gem suddenly). So if a bald, old bugger can do it you can too. Just take it easy, keep smiling, be nice to the girls, make them comfortable and pay well. The real disadvantage is at getting the girl, but once they know you and find that you are a nice one to be around they will enjoy and you will have a great time. Once you keep going to the same place they will definitely warm up to you. Almost all girls (except two or three) always wanted to be back with me the next day. The point I am making is, yes its a bit difficult for Indians to start with but once you understand the perspective you can have the same fun too.
Never forget to move on, if a couple of things don't go your way. There are too many options and in my more than 90 nights and days there I barely scratched the surface. Being rejected is part of the learning but it does help to find another way. Have fun brothers.
As for Phuket I haven't tried it as I haven't got tired of Pattaya yet. My sincere advise, don't put off Pattaya just because of the Indian thing, its a small? For too much fun to be had. Get in there, take it on and have it all.
P.S: Yes the impression on Indians (and that doesn't apply to Pattaya alone)- we can't run away from it, rather we should do whatever we can, to improve it although it won't be easy.
hi guys! sorry for taking so long to post this. back at work this week and could not find the time and inspiration to write until now. i hope you enjoy it!
day 12- friday. back on the hunt.
after gaew left i wandered around jomtien for a bit. i toyed with the idea of getting an afternoon session. and though there were plenty of willing females, they were mostly old and ugly and i found none of them to be attractive. i will definitely change venues next trip, though i will miss the familiarity of view talay 5 i am ready for something new.
after eating and getting some work done i got ready for the hunt. the plan was to take a break from gaew and find a new lady for tonight. i was intrigued by the ladies hanging outside lucifer. for me they were the prettiest group i'd seen this trip. but i had my doubts about them and would need to observe them a bit before committing my night to them. time was now short and i did not want to waste it: this was my last full night in town as i had a flight very early on sunday.
i got to lucifer's around 11 and the girls were already there. i decided to grab a beer at the bar / restaurant just across the street and observe them for a while. first to determine if they were lbs and to gauge whether i'd have a gfe (or at least a good time with them). after a close observation i determines that at lest a couple of them were definitely lbs, three definitely were not, and another three or four i wasn't' really sure about. gauging whether they were gfe material was much harder. i noticed that they almost immediately shot down any indian punter that approached them. they were completely indifferent to caucasians and strangely enough i don't remember any approaching them.
they pretty much ignored me when i passed by the, not even offering eye contact.
but when a group of asian guys came by they would go absolutely nuts, waving at them to get their attention and even grabbing at them. i concluded that these girls were only interested in asian clients and was suspicious that they would give good gfe performance. so i took a pass on them for now. i could always go back at the end of the evening (when they may be more amenable to going back to jomtien for an lt). so i finished my beer and headed off to i-bar.
so back to i-bar where i have often been a little self conscious approaching girls (especially when they are in a group) as a lone wolf, not being there with a wing or with friends. i got there and did the rounds. it was still early and girls were just settling in. there were plenty of eligible ladies, but i was not getting much back in the way of eye contact. i did not let this faze me and instead ordered a beer and settled in, grabbing a seat along the wall just opposite the bathrooms where it would be easy to observe girls coming and going and pick my targets. i tried to play it cool and relax, and soon enough my stares were being returned by a very cute brunet with a curvy little body.
i bided my time and waited for the moment to approach her. but in the corner of my eye i also noticed an absolutely gorgeous girl. tall, super fit body, and long blonde hair -- a definite stunner. (see pic below). i think the first thing i noticed was the dress that she wore which perfectly accentuated her amazing body. she seemed to be with a group of girls and guys. my first thought that was the she was out of my leagues. she eventually moved to the table where the cute curvy brunette was hanging out at. i started making eye contact with her, raising my beer to her in a a toast. she toasted back and i knew it was time to make my move.
i walked over to her expecting to get shot down, content with the idea that i could still wind up with the cute and curvy brunette. but i hit it off with ms tall blonde right away. she asked if i was alone, and i lied to her that i had a friend with me but that he had left with a girl he met. we chatted and joked and soon i had my hands all over her body. she asked if i wanted to take her for 3 k. she gave me a big warm hug when i said yes, squealing in delight. it was will a little early and i ordered some drinks for us to get to know each other. i wanted to warm her up and get her to like me before taking her home.
she was surprisingly sweet and affectionate. not the usual stuck up be* that girls of this caliber often are. as we danced she grinded up against me with her delicious bootie, letting my hands wander over her sexy curves. i also ordered a hookah (only 200 baht) which made her very happy. soon we were making out, with me inhaling the smoke from the hookah from her mouth. very sexy! i could feel the envious eyes of the others guys on me. i was as proud as a peacock and felt like a real stud with this stunning girl all over me.
she wanted to go play some pool, and we went over to the rolling stone place just down the street for a few games. i must have played the worst games of my life. but she was super nice about it, hugging, kissing me and consoling me after every bad shot. i was just too distracted by the sight of her slinky body draped over the table to give a damned about the game.
i was desperate to get her home and in my bed at this point. so we hopped on her motorbike and soon we were in jomtien.
when we got back to my condo i took her out to the balcony to see the view. we started making out again, my hands wandering all over her supple and toned body. after a while we moved to the bed and i slipped off her dress, bra and panties. she had amazing boobs. silicone, but nice and soft, with beautiful mocha colored aereolas. i sucked on her nipples, as she moaned with pleasure, rubbing my finger against her shaved little pussy.
i took off my clothes and she started to give me a nice bj. it felt very nice and it was a tremendous optifuck to see her beautiful little face up and down. but her bj was a little shallow and not on the same level as gaew's masterful and deep bjs.
i was hard as stone at this point and ready to try her pretty little pussy. she applied some lube as i put on the condom and entered her in mish. she went absolutely wild as i moved in an out of her. oohing and ah-hing and telling me it felt so good. (this was definitely a case where lube did no necessarily mean the girl was not into the sex). i was thoroughly enjoying the view of her firm and tight body and her perky and full breasts, which semed to defy gravity as i pumped away.
i turned her over and we switched to doggy. me pounding away while my hands massaged her ass and thighs. man her body was toned! we then switched to cowgirl and i let her ride me for a bit, which she did enthusiastically. with her on top i could play with those magnificent tits to my hearts content.
then back to mish and doggy again. i could not get enough of this sexy little thing!
we must have been going at it for quite a while because the sun started to come up. i was ready to come so i took off the condom and started wanking myself while lying on my back -- her licking my balls. i was on the verge of coming and i slipped my cock into her willing mouth as i shot my load. this was utter bliss! if god had taken me then and there i would have died a happy men.
my darling girl held me there for a few seconds then ran into the bathroom to spit it out and brush her teeth. she came and we cuddled and talked for a while. she told me about her ex boyfriend from kuwait. she was upset that he did not trust her and was always checking up on her when he was away. i tried to be sympathetic but i know she must have been fooling around on him the whole time. i mean i had only met this girl a few hours ago and she had let me cim without even batting an eyelash!
i was fully satisfied. it was nice to get back to the hunt and to have such great results. wonderful sex with an absolutely gorgeous and sweet girl. we drifted off to sleep. me with a huge grin on my face in anticipation of round two when we woke up.
stay tuned for my final report form this trip where uncle v has a marathon last day!
and stay horny my friends.
uncle v.
[QUOTE=DespXpat;1620066]P.S: Yes the impression on Indians (and that doesn't apply to Pattaya alone)- we can't run away from it, rather we should do whatever we can, to improve it although it won't be easy.[/QUOTE]Very well put, only the facts, no malice. I have faced similar issues and it should not affect any particular monger. Discrimination in one form or another is prevalent in all of Thailand (with particular focus on Pattaya) yet if one can take a few rejections in their stride and hear a few "members only" and move on, the girls who one eventually ends up with are great fun.
As stated, dressing well, paying a good price (and not going overboard or undercutting) helps. I too visit Pattaya with a friend, however, for Go-Go purposes I believe you may need to approach them alone, chances of gaining entry are better.
Also, soi 6 bars and bars elsewhere (not Go-Gos) in Pattaya are also very welcoming to Indians and yes, at times, gems are to be found there as well.
Well written piece by Desp Xpat.
[QUOTE=DespXpat;1620066]- I always hunt alone as I am comfortable that way.
- Dress appropriately and be well kempt-some of the worst ones on the beach road and walking street are our brothers.
- take a break from our usually practiced bargaining methods
Once you are aware of the facts and find a way around, its loads of fun to be had Just take it easy, keep smiling, be nice to the girls, make them comfortable and pay well.[/QUOTE]I am not of Indian origin, look more Mexican, but I have had similar experiences. I think Desp Xpat is right on. I would emphasize the following:
Avoid going to gogo bars in groups, no more than 2 people together. Behave as if you were an important customer. Dressing well is not as important as being generous. That's really the bottom line with working girls. The more generous you are, the more they like you and the better service you get. Keep in mind that the bars are businesses, so make sure you spend some money there. If you don't drink alcohol, buy some ladies a drink.
And, of course, never bargain, ever. If you don't like the price quoted, just walk away. I've been to Pattaya close to 15 times over the past 10 years, and I have followed the above advice successfully.
[QUOTE=DespXpat;1620066]True but not entirely. I went through the same dilemma a few years ago when I made my first trip, so let me help you with whatever I can. It took more than 8 trips (not kidding) to Bangkok before I set foot in Pattaya as all I heard was, it's a hole and doesn't welcome Indians. Guess what, since that first trip, I made more than 10 exclusively mongering trips and none of them anywhere else except Pattaya. Don't I love it?
I am an Indian too. Old (late forties) and bald, but a bit athletic built and a bit of money to spare and if you are younger and better looking and the money you said you want to spend then you have it. A few points to note though. Everything that follows is with an Indian perspective so may not be applicable to others.
- Scout through ROD for detailed reports by bro Adrenalin Rush- should be two or three years old or so but the links can be found easily. Great info especially for Indians...[/QUOTE]I am sure you are a nice Indian guy. But, I go to Thailand every year and know exactly why Thai girls do not like to do business with Indian guys. In Thailand you pay afterwards not before. Too many Indian guys walk out without paying or pay less then agreed upon. I have been in massage places many times and have seen this happen. So because this happens often I guess the girls don't want to deal with the BS. So if you are Indian and the girl won't go with you. Just offer to pay first before service and that might help.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1620070]I got to Lucifer's around 11 and the girls were already there. I decided to grab a beer at the bar / restaurant just across the street and observe them for a while. First to determine if they were LBs and to gauge whether I'd have a GFE (or at least a good time with them). After a close observation I determines that at lest a couple of them were definitely LBs, three definitely were not, and another three or four I wasn't' really sure about.
They pretty much ignored me when I passed by the, not even offering eye contact.
But when a group of Asian guys came by they would go absolutely nuts, waving at them to get their attention and even grabbing at them. [/QUOTE]All the service providers in front of Lucifer are LBs with the exception of a couple of ladies (that you probably would not be interested in anyway) who will be standing ON the sidewalk in front of P72 (where you grabbed the beer). The corner of Soi 15 (or 16) adjacent to Rolling Stone 2 bar are all LBs as well. They ignored you because they figured you knew they were LB and not interested.
When have you ever seen a group of service providers go nuts waving and grabbing on guys walking by (exception: how Soi 6 used to be)? All the ladies on Walking Street and Beach Road stand their quietly and wait for you to approach them. As you walk by they may say something in a low tone of voice like "I go with you," but besides that they do not invite attention to themselves like the LBs try to do by strutting around and wearing provocative clothing.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1620234]I am sure you are a nice Indian guy. But, I go to Thailand every year and know exactly why Thai girls do not like to do business with Indian guys. In Thailand you pay afterwards not before. Too many Indian guys walk out without paying or pay less then agreed upon. I have been in massage places many times and have seen this happen. So because this happens often I guess the girls don't want to deal with the BS. So if you are Indian and the girl won't go with you. Just offer to pay first before service and that might help.[/QUOTE]From chatting with them I'm told the biggest problem working girls have with certain ethnic groups centers arounds issues of personal hygiene and refusing to shower beforehand. That and tales of underpayment or no payment, extra friends waiting back in the room and disrespectful behaviour contributes to their reluctance. So a dash of old spice, a promise of money up front and a mention that you are a nice guy should get the job done.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1620184] I would emphasize the following:
The more generous you are, the more they like you and the better service you get.[/QUOTE]This is so not true, be generous if you want but you're delusional if you think this will get you better service.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1620184]
And, of course, never bargain, ever. If you don't like the price quoted, just walk away. .[/QUOTE]I bargain all the time, its actually expected in Pattaya which is why they always start off with those high prices. They know and expect you to bargain and are likely in shock when they meet someone who doesn't.
Thanks for info / advise. Will make the trip to Pats in November and post here.
Good point Mr. E.
At least a couple of them, however, are undoubtedly women. Their bodies are just too curvy (hips to shoulder ration) to be males. And those girls looked good and behaved in the same way as the others.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1620499]All the service providers in front of Lucifer are LBs with the exception of a couple of ladies (that you probably would not be interested in anyway) who will be standing ON the sidewalk in front of P72 (where you grabbed the beer). The corner of Soi 15 (or 16) adjacent to Rolling Stone 2 bar are all LBs as well. They ignored you because they figured you knew they were LB and not interested.
When have you ever seen a group of service providers go nuts waving and grabbing on guys walking by (exception: how Soi 6 used to be)? All the ladies on Walking Street and Beach Road stand their quietly and wait for you to approach them. As you walk by they may say something in a low tone of voice like "I go with you," but besides that they do not invite attention to themselves like the LBs try to do by strutting around and wearing provocative clothing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RunMann;1620520]This is so not true, be generous if you want but you're delusional if you think this will get you better service.[/QUOTE]Tipping generously or paying a higher price in order to secure a better service will only work if you intend to become a repeat customer. After a few times she might remember that good service brings a reward. But if you are a butterfly and are only there for a few weeks it actually doesn't work that way.
On the other hand, driving a hard bargain and be very demanding, is likely to bring the service level down. Remember, that in Thailand work must be "sanuk" ("fun") and if you take that away from her, she will not be interested anymore and will give you a rush job.
Generally I do bargain a bit and bring the price down by about 1000 baht max (I only take LT engagements), say from 4000 down to 3000 baht. If her starting price is really excessively high, I don't even bother to continue the negotiations as that will lead nowhere good. Just smile, thank her for her time and walk to the next club.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1620705]
...driving a hard bargain and be very demanding, is likely to bring the service level down. Remember, that in Thailand work must be "sanuk" ("fun") and if you take that away from her, she will not be interested anymore and will give you a rush job. [/QUOTE]This is a key point. Personally I don't bargain. I know what the market price range should be in a particular venue. It is generally a bad sign if a girl is asking for more. I respond to a high price with an exaggerated expression for comical effect and then I tell the girl, "I can not. Too much. " She has a one time chance to negotiate herself down if she wants to have me as a customer. I keep it polite and friendly no matter how she responds. If she does not come down to a reasonable price, I finish my drink and move on to another bar. If she does come down in price, I put the whole thing behind us and take the girl.
I want to add, that in the vast majority of times, there is no need to even go into the dance I described above. Girls seldom high ball me. Maybe it is because I am a handsome man or maybe it is because I buy them a drink first and try to create a little chemistry. I won't even get to the "do you want to come to my room" stage unless I am already receiving a lot of positive vibes and I like the girl. Also know the PRICE RANGE! IMHO, it is not not worth negotiating a lower figure inside the price range. Is bargaining for 300 bt worth risking my level of satisfaction? I think not. But to each his own.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1620705]Tipping generously or paying a higher price in order to secure a better service will only work if you intend to become a repeat customer. After a few times she might remember that good service brings a reward. But if you are a butterfly and are only there for a few weeks it actually doesn't work that way.
On the other hand, driving a hard bargain and be very demanding, is likely to bring the service level down. Remember, that in Thailand work must be "sanuk" ("fun") and if you take that away from her, she will not be interested anymore and will give you a rush job.
Generally I do bargain a bit and bring the price down by about 1000 baht max (I only take LT engagements), say from 4000 down to 3000 baht. If her starting price is really excessively high, I don't even bother to continue the negotiations as that will lead nowhere good. Just smile, thank her for her time and walk to the next club.[/QUOTE]On two occasions after the song and dance of few drinks (including drink for the girls ugly friend also) or so (soi 6 and BR, this comment doesn't apply to Go-Gos), I have broached the topic of taking proceedings to my room and I have taken the initiative of naming a price as the girl wasn't so forthcoming with the price. I have given a very low ball initial offer, it may sound very cheap charlie types, but I have offered THB 1000 and it has been accepted both times. However, I have tipped THB 500 extra (BR girl got THB 200) afterwards since I thought the amount I am paying is a little less and there was no bargaining in the first case. Both times it was LT, but I have treated them to drinks and food before that, may be that's why the girls didn't bargain or may be they just thought I was a cheap charlie and there's no point negotiating. I wonder how many give a low-ball first offer and get accepted, I imagine quite a few!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1620715]This is a key point. Personally I don't bargain. I know what the market price range should be. It is generally a bad sign if a girl is asking for more. I respond to a high price with an exaggerated expression for comical effect and then I tell the girl, "I can not. Too much. " She has a one time chance to negotiate herself down if she wants to have me as a customer. I keep it polite and friendly no matter how she responds. If she does not come down to a reasonable price, I finish my drink and move on to another bar. If she does come down in price, I put the whole thing behind us and take the girl.
I want to add, that in the vast majority of times, there is no need to even go into the dance I described above. Girls seldom high ball me. Maybe it is because I am a handsome man or maybe it is because I buy them a drink first and try to create a little chemistry. I won't even get to the "do you want to come to my room" stage unless I am already receiving a lot of positive vibes and I like the girl. Also know the PRICE RANGE! IMHO, it is not not worth negotiating a lower figure inside the price range. Is bargaining for 300 bt worth the risk to you enjoyment level? I think not.[/QUOTE]Couldn't help but notice this guys facebook page: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/timshark?fref=ts[/URL].
What is the going price for the level of quality this guy is banging in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1620723]Couldn't help but notice this guys facebook page: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/timshark?fref=ts[/URL].
What is the going price for the level of quality this guy is banging in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Good Point. I would imagine he is asked to pay more wherever he goes, or maybe he is a charmer or he is real well known in a couple of bars and the girls really like him. 555.
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1620723]Couldn't help but notice this guys facebook page: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/timshark?fref=ts[/URL].
What is the going price for the level of quality this guy is banging in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Nice apartment. I wonder where he lives?
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1620725]Good Point. I would imagine he is asked to pay more wherever he goes, or maybe he is a charmer or he is real well known in a couple of bars and the girls really like him. 555.[/QUOTE]This guy is huge, looks like a professional wrestler. TGs, I would think, ask double the price for him, unless he doesn't screw them and pays only for their time (wink).
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1620512]From chatting with them I'm told the biggest problem working girls have with certain ethnic groups centers arounds issues of personal hygiene and refusing to shower beforehand. That and tales of underpayment or no payment, extra friends waiting back in the room and disrespectful behaviour contributes to their reluctance. So a dash of old spice, a promise of money up front and a mention that you are a nice guy should get the job done.[/QUOTE]I know that Indians are very welcome in Latin America. In most Latin American countries, except DR, Santo Domingo, you pay after the deed. I would not advise anyone to not pay or to avoid paying the agreed to price in LA.
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1620723]Couldn't help but notice this guys facebook page: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/timshark?fref=ts[/URL].
What is the going price for the level of quality this guy is banging in Pattaya?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Pattaya-shark-man.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=AskeAske;1620773][URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Pattaya-shark-man.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]"A Thai girl once told me a lie is not a lie if it is told in English. * Only if it is spoken in Thai is it considered a lie. * English means nothing to them and they see us as weak. ".
"The more money you pay, the more the girl hates you. "
Couple of quotes I found interesting from this article.
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1620808]"A Thai girl once told me a lie is not a lie if it is told in English. * Only if it is spoken in Thai is it considered a lie. * English means nothing to them and they see us as weak. ".
"The more money you pay, the more the girl hates you. "
Couple of quotes I found interesting from this article.[/QUOTE]Only if you tend to associate with the dregs of Thai society. I suspect Sharky is intimately familiar with that stratum.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1620841]Only if you tend to associate with the dregs of Thai society. I suspect Sharky is intimately familiar with that stratum.[/QUOTE]Good point! He probably has a cynical and negative view of most people.
Hello fellas,
I am looking for some insight on the do's and don't's in Pattaya. I am headed of for the first time in November, has anyone put a guide together. I know we had a guy put a excellent one together for Rio.
Looking for the following:
1. Average / going price for girl both day and overnight.
2. Average / going price transportation Bangkok to Pattaya.
3. Best clubs / bars to visit.
4. Best massage palors.
5. What scams to avoid and what not to do.
6. Good ass advise from the pros.
Thanks
[QUOTE=AskeAske;1620773][URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Pattaya-shark-man.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting link But I Was MO Interested In How Much Those Types Of Girls charge.
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1620979]Interesting link But I Was MO Interested In How Much Those Types Of Girls charge.[/QUOTE]Didn't you read the article? Sharky says he never pays more than 1000 baht including barfine and some of his best shags were 300 baht.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1620841]Only if you tend to associate with the dregs of Thai society. I suspect Sharky is intimately familiar with that stratum.[/QUOTE]LOL. Many "normal people" would consider us the users of this forum or the women we seek to meet, as the dregs of society.
One person's dreg is another person's GFE!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1621038]Didn't you read the article? Sharky says he never pays more than 1000 baht including barfine and some of his best shags were 300 baht.[/QUOTE]What do you pay if you don't mind me asking?
[QUOTE=AceBishop2012;1620957]Hello fellas,
I am looking for some insight on the do's and don't's in Pattaya. I am headed of for the first time in November, has anyone put a guide together. I know we had a guy put a excellent one together for Rio.
Looking for the following:
1. Average / going price for girl both day and overnight.
2. Average / going price transportation Bangkok to Pattaya.
3. Best clubs / bars to visit.
4. Best massage palors.
5. What scams to avoid and what not to do.
6. Good ass advise from the pros.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hey AceBishop. Welcome to the forums. Best advice I can give you is go back through the forum for a couple of months and you will find a good sense of what is going on, what is available in Pattaya, what is good, what is not so good, and how best to enjoy yourself.
Hard for anyone to tell you what you will like, when nobody here can tell what you do like.
Doing this should answer a lot of questions for you, and is the best way to "educate" yourself.
When that is done, and if you then have questions that are not answered, throw them out and people will be glad to give their opinions.
Do: Use common sense, treat the girls good, be nice to everyone, boom boom your socks off, and have a bloody good time.
Don't: Don't do stupid things and get yourself in trouble.
[QUOTE=AceBishop2012;1620957]Hello fellas,
I am looking for some insight on the do's and don't's in Pattaya. I am headed of for the first time in November, has anyone put a guide together. I know we had a guy put a excellent one together for Rio.
Looking for the following:
1. Average / going price for girl both day and overnight.
2. Average / going price transportation Bangkok to Pattaya.
3. Best clubs / bars to visit.
4. Best massage palors.
5. What scams to avoid and what not to do.
6. Good ass advise from the pros.
Thanks[/QUOTE]In relation to 2.
I used [URL]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/URL] to and from Pattaya last year and found them to be timely, professional, and very comfortable. I cannot think of a bad thing to say about them and would recommend them highly if they fit your budget.
This year as my flight arrives in the early evening I am considering the bus down direct from airport just for a change. Youtube even have an idiots guide to help me! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9n4Hx_fOA[/URL].
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1621162]What do you pay if you don't mind me asking?[/QUOTE]500 ST 1000 LT. Beach Road 400 ST. Once fucked around and gave a chick 1500 LT. No idea why.
I just came from hanging out with some friends in Baccara. Just the barfine there is 700 baht. Way out of my league. Leaving Walking Street some chicks in front of Alcatraz started talking to us. To prove a point, I asked the girl in front of my brother (who is visiting, second time in Pattaya), "Where are you going after work?" The girl said 808. I told her that I would see her there. She told me not to bullshit. I said jing jing. I told my brother see what I mean. Why go into the gogos and spend a bunch of money for the girl when you can just go into the discos when they get off work and get them for 1000 LT.
[QUOTE=AceBishop2012;1620957]1. Average / going price for girl both day and overnight.
2. Average / going price transportation Bangkok to Pattaya.
3. Best clubs / bars to visit.
4. Best massage palors.
5. What scams to avoid and what not to do.
6. Good ass advise from the pros.
Thanks[/QUOTE]1. There is no average. Guys are paying different prices all over the board. Fair exchange is no robbery.
2. Taxi: From BKK airport I pay 900 + 60 tolls. From DM airport 1200 + tolls. From the city 1500 + tolls.
Bus: From BKK bus station to Pattaya Bus station 124. Bell Travel Service: From BKK airport to Pattaya hotel 230 on website (250 at counter). From BKK hotel to Pattaya hotel 345 on website.
3. Different strokes for different folks.
4. Same as 3.
5. Avoid local guys who try to befriend you. Don't let anyone put anything in your drink. Stay away from drugs and jetskis. [URL]http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/Thailand/Central_Eastern_Thailand/Pattaya-1449746/Warnings_or_Dangers-Pattaya-TG-C-1.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1621162]What do you pay if you don't mind me asking?[/QUOTE]Beach Road girls or freelancers are not my "market", so I would not know. I did get a girl from a beerbar in Jomtien ("Country Roads" if I remember well)? Including barfine and tip, she cost me 2500 baht for LT. Taking everything in proportion, I would not pay more than 1000 baht for a freelancer for ST and even less than that for a BR girl.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1621261] Why go into the gogos and spend a bunch of money for the girl when you can just go into the discos when they get off work and get them for 1000 LT.[/QUOTE]Now you have to be fair, and say, when the girls from the GoGos stop working. 4 in the morning?
[QUOTE=AceBishop2012;1620957]Hello fellas,
I am looking for some insight on the do's and don't's in Pattaya. I am headed of for the first time in November, has anyone put a guide together. I know we had a guy put a excellent one together for Rio.
Looking for the following:
1. Average / going price for girl both day and overnight.
2. Average / going price transportation Bangkok to Pattaya.
3. Best clubs / bars to visit.
4. Best massage palors.
5. What scams to avoid and what not to do.
6. Good ass advise from the pros.
Thanks[/QUOTE]To Ace.
My advice here to do some home work there is many good info here you should read, I think Pattaya is a very easy place for newbie to visit and I have done mongering all over the world included Rio and I put Pattaya on the top of my list everything is out in the open easy to get girl here I been coming here every yr since 1995.
Fast eddie 48.
When I get my fair maiden, I have usually had 2 or 3 Booms Booms by 4 AM and just want some sleep! Guess I am getting old. Wow can't wait that long!
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1621320]Now you have to be fair, and say, when the girls from the GoGos stop working. 4 in the morning?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1621320]Now you have to be fair, and say, when the girls from the GoGos stop working. 4 in the morning?[/QUOTE]True. 3 am or 3:30 am. But it is no big deal for me. Now it is 6:30 am and I am just getting in the house. Even if I was planning to be home sleep already, I could give the girl my number and just tell her to call and come over after she gets off work if she doesn't get a customer. Paying 1000 and staying up to the wee hours trumps 3200 for 11 pm or midnight service any night of the week in my book. Even still, you could get her to come the next day before work or on an off day. I will also admit that not every girl is willing to do business that way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1621393]True. 3 am or 3:30 am. But it is no big deal for me. Now it is 6:30 am and I am just getting in the house. Even if I was planning to be home sleep already, I could give the girl my number and just tell her to call and come over after she gets off work if she doesn't get a customer. Paying 1000 and staying up to the wee hours trumps 3200 for 11 pm or midnight service any night of the week in my book. Even still, you could get her to come the next day before work or on an off day. I will also admit that not every girl is willing to do business that way.[/QUOTE]Man I envy yo mofoos that live in Pattaya!
The time constraints are so differtnet when you are there for 10-14 days.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1621393]True. 3 am or 3:30 am. [/QUOTE]Will give it a try, end of next week. Will you still be around to share some info?
[QUOTE=AwesomeMan;1620730]Nice apartment. I wonder where he lives?[/QUOTE]He lives in VT6. We have stayed there on each of last 6 trips and we always run into him coming / going.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1621227]In relation to 2.
I used [URL]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/URL] to and from Pattaya last year and found them to be timely, professional, and very comfortable. I cannot think of a bad thing to say about them and would recommend them highly if they fit your budget.
This year as my flight arrives in the early evening I am considering the bus down direct from airport just for a change. Youtube even have an idiots guide to help me! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9n4Hx_fOA[/URL].[/QUOTE]Booked them for my upcoming trip and they are very prompt in responding.
Hi friends,
Visiting Pattaya next month and want to spend this time with a girl who will a company me all the time and provide good service.
Want members suggestions and advise to find some one.
Thanks in advance.
Drackmore
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1621227]This year as my flight arrives in the early evening I am considering the bus down direct from airport just for a change. Youtube even have an idiots guide to help me! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9n4Hx_fOA[/URL].[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if there is a similar bus service in operation from Don Muang airport to Pattaya?
Thanks
[QUOTE=HamKeng;1621985]Does anyone know if there is a similar bus service in operation from Don Muang airport to Pattaya?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes. I took one a month ago. Costs 124 baht. It will drop you off at North Pattaya station. Runs about every 30-40 minutes. I don't know what time the last bus departs. I would guess the last bus departs before midnight.
The bus terminal is HUGE! Find the information counter and ask them where to buy the ticket. Get your ticket and you can exit near the food court. Walk outside and find your bus at the # on your ticket. The ticket will have the bus parking space #, and the actual bus number.
[QUOTE=HamKeng;1621985]Does anyone know if there is a similar bus service in operation from Don Muang airport to Pattaya?
[/QUOTE]In case, you do not find a direct bus: There is a regular shuttle bus between Don Munag and BKK, free of charge.
anybody seen na lately? i see her in my travels when wandering the pattaya streets, usually around soi 13. obviously older and keeps her hair shorter. when i tried her for the first and last time circa 2010, she was a total clock watcher, smoked in my room, and i think she stole my camera when i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. -k (u) nt!
that site she is on is still charging $29/ month to see those old pics and videos. -.
She was old and drugged out last I saw her a couple of years ago. I wouldn't touch her with a barge pole. And that is saying a lot, because my standards are not as high as some people who come on here saying they could not find anyone to fuck. She was probably watching the clock to see how fast she could get out of there to get another hit; hence the stolen camera.
[QUOTE=DrackMore;1621956]Hi friends,
Visiting Pattaya next month and want to spend this time with a girl who will a company me all the time and provide good service.
Want members suggestions and advise to find some one.
Thanks in advance.
Drackmore[/QUOTE]Sadly, it does not work that way, not even in Pattaya.
You can find many girls easy enough almost everywhere and for the right amount of money, they will come to your room and give you a good time. More money and they stay longer; enough money and they stay three days. That is the easy part.
But unless you intend to fuck her for three days and nights without a pause, can you really enjoy staying with a total stranger for things other than sex? What connection do you hve with her? Many girls do provide GFE, but once the deed is done and you both have taken a shower, what will you talk about? You don't find friendship just like that, by waving some bahts around.
My suggestion? Go to Soi 6 and take any girl you fancy for ST. If you feel a "click", next time get her LT and see how she "performs" during a longer time. Then perhaps you can engage her services for a whole day, making perfect agreement about what you want her to do. Don't expect many of these girls to have any knowledge of the area outside of their own little world. For instance, they are unlikely to be any good as a tour guide. Their job is to "fuck farang for a fee" and they do that admirably well, but most likely they are "one trick ponies" who will fail at anything else.
[QUOTE=DrackMore;1621956] want to spend this time with a girl who will a company me all the time and provide good service.[/QUOTE]Drack you sound like a 40-year old virgin! But your surely a PTY cherry boy. Sorry, but three days is not even worth the bus ride from the airport for me. What you desire is as easy to find as your own dick. I have found Thai women in Patts to be pretty cool for the most part, and most of them will stay with you if you ask. I got lucky in May and had a stunner (in pink)! Even Thais stopped and stared and wondered why she was with the Gunz. She was perfect for the curfew. Don't you think what trying to do is being done already (keep the hottest for yourself).
Serial monger a couple days just for variety sake at least. There are so many women in Pattaya. Then a thirty something mom will usually be more appreciative for the extended stay instead of having to hustle for a farang every night. I also like to chill in the room with a bottle and an extended stay guest as I am not as young as I used to be. A hotter younger model will only try to fleece you for hanging around when she knows getting a customer (that's what they call us) is always on the horizon. Wolvenvaght mentioned conversation and all that. Again, a late twenty-something or older woman that is more experienced will know what to say, vice an 18 yo fresh from the province. She will also have to go back to her room daily to change clothes, eat noodles with friends and get a break from you anyway. She will want to come back later in the evening. That's how they like to do with a very LT customer. I would not worry about extended LT. Having English movies with Thai sub-titles helps immensely! Good luck.
[QUOTE=DrackMore;1621956]Hi friends,
Visiting Pattaya next month and want to spend this time with a girl who will a company me all the time and provide good service.
Want members suggestions and advise to find some one.
Thanks in advance.
Drackmore[/QUOTE]Three days in Pattaya is not enough. I have been here for three months and have not scratched the surface.
I think once you get here your plan will or should change once you have your first conversation with one of these ladies.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1622291]Three days in Pattaya is not enough. I have been here for three months and have not scratched the surface.
I think once you get here your plan will or should change once you have your first conversation with one of these ladies.[/QUOTE]Hey uys,
Really thanks for your suggestions, all of you. Need to work on long Holiday.
Cheers
[QUOTE=AceBishop2012;1620957]Looking for the following: Good ass advise from the pros.[/QUOTE]I concur with the other gentlemen who have recommended going back a few months and reading the forum. You want to look for reports on the three main areas favored by naughty boys: Walking Street, Soi 6 and Soi LK Metro. You can also get smart about lodging options, restaurants and daytime attractions.
You need to learn the lay of the land. The best way is to buy a map. Yes, an old-fashioned, hard-copy map. This will be invaluable as you read the reports, decide what hotel to book, etc. I recommend the Groovy map of Pattaya, which you can buy on [URL]Amazon.com[/URL].
I second the endorsement of Pattaya Taxi. Khun Keak is the boss and he runs a tight ship. I've used them several times and found them very reliable. You can book in advance via email.
Bunky.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1622198] a late twenty-something or older woman that is more experienced will know what to say, vice an 18 yo fresh from the province. [/QUOTE]Just curious: Last year, September, I had one of the better girls (23 years old) from a beer bar on WS, for 2 weeks, doing travelling with me. Had to pay her 1300 BHT / day, + 500 BHT barfine / day.
Was that a good / bad / reasonable rate?
As I am planning the same this year (arriving next week in Pattaya), some other prices from real experience welcome!
[QUOTE=Bunky;1622479] I recommend the Groovy map of Pattaya, which you can buy on [URL]Amazon.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]I picked up the same map before my 1st visit and found it incredibly beneficial.
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1622485]Just curious: Last year, September, I had one of the better girls (23 years old) from a beer bar on WS, for 2 weeks, doing travelling with me. Had to pay her 1300 BHT / day, + 500 BHT barfine / day.
Was that a good / bad / reasonable rate?[/QUOTE]I would have looked for a freelance and just given 10000 for the two weeks. And 10000 will most definitely cover her basic bills for the entire month. You are taking her on a vacation and feeding her everyday. Since you did the bar thing though I would have definitely at least tried to bargain that down. The WS places are more expensive for bar fine, but from 500 baht I would have at least started with 200 and maxed out at 300 baht / day.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1622165]
But unless you intend to fuck her for three days and nights without a pause, can you really enjoy staying with a total stranger for things other than sex? What connection do you hve with her? Many girls do provide GFE, but once the deed is done and you both have taken a shower, what will you talk about? You don't find friendship just like that, by waving some bahts around.[/QUOTE]Why, yes. Yes, I can enjoy staying with a total stranger.
After a day, they're no longer a stranger. Of course you have to make a bit of an effort, but it almost always pays off. I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, the number of dud long-times I've had, both in BKK and PTY.
The key is to show interest in the things THEY like. So, you discuss their family. You eat what she eats. Hang out at some Thai clubs. I draw the line at Thai soap operas, but taking in a Thai movie (with English subtitles) can be rewarding. You can learn a lot about the country and the culture from some of the girls. Yes, some of it may be a bit of low-class culture, but it's all good. You would be surprised at how interesting some (certainly not all) of the girls can be, once you get past the language barrier.
One caveat is you need somebody a bit on the older side. I don't care what country you're in, an 18 year old girl is a blithering idiot. But late 20's. Early 30's can make excellent rent-a-companions.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1622546]I would have looked for a freelance and just given 10000 for the two weeks. And 10000 will most definitely cover her basic bills for the entire month. You are taking her on a vacation and feeding her everyday. Since you did the bar thing though I would have definitely at least tried to bargain that down. The WS places are more expensive for bar fine, but from 500 baht I would have at least started with 200 and maxed out at 300 baht / day.[/QUOTE]Well, if you can get away with that, that's great. But it seems a little on the cheap side to me...
Don't forget the girls are doing this for money (to send back home, to save, to pay their rent, to pay their bills). What may be a great holiday for you is just another boring day in paradise for them, with the added disadvantage of not being able to get away from the boring farang (nothing personal - I'm sure you are great company). And feeding them every day at a nice restaurant cuts no ice when they can feed themselves for 100 baht.
I have only done extended stays with a few girls, and I pay them the same rate as for one day. That's my idea of fairness, and it stops them thinking they could be earning more money if they weren't with me. I always give them (and me) a bit of space, so I'm happy to pack them off shopping or to the hair salon for an afternoon (or let them stay in for the evening while I cruise the bars). All I insist on is 3 shags a day! It works for me.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1622890]Well, if you can get away with that, that's great. But it seems a little on the cheap side to me...
Don't forget the girls are doing this for money (to send back home, to save, to pay their rent, to pay their bills). What may be a great holiday for you is just another boring day in paradise for them, with the added disadvantage of not being able to get away from the boring farang (nothing personal - I'm sure you are great company). And feeding them every day at a nice restaurant cuts no ice when they can feed themselves for 100 baht.
I have only done extended stays with a few girls, and I pay them the same rate as for one day. That's my idea of fairness, and it stops them thinking they could be earning more money if they weren't with me. I always give them (and me) a bit of space, so I'm happy to pack them off shopping or to the hair salon for an afternoon (or let them stay in for the evening while I cruise the bars). All I insist on is 3 shags a day! It works for me.[/QUOTE]To each his own, but the point of buying in bulk is to reduce the per-unit cost. Right?
The girl may get X,000 baht for her daily rate. But that includes showing up for work, working a long-ass shift, hustling drinks, cajoling potential customers, etc. At the end of the day she might, and might not, score a trick. Going away for several days guarantees that she'll receive income for that period of time, probably in excess of what she would have earned in the bar despite the discount. Side benefits include not having to go to work and put up with the daily grind for a few days and staying someplace nicer than her apartment. If the guy isn't a complete monosyllabic dickhead, and has a "sanuk" personality, she'll probably enjoy the trip.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1622890]
I have only done extended stays with a few girls, and I pay them the same rate as for one day. That's my idea of fairness, and it stops them thinking they could be earning more money if they weren't with me.[/QUOTE]Help us out -- what do you give per day to them?
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1622890] All I insist on is 3 shags a day! It works for me.[/QUOTE]That settles it then; you pay them well, and they earn every baht!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1622971]Help us out -- what do you give per day to them?[/QUOTE]At least 2000 Bt a day. Plus some shopping for her.
I have walked through Soi 6 but did not partake so have a few questions.
1. Do you you have to select and talk to girl outside bar before walking in or can one walk in and browse?
2. Do they have semi decent beds and air conditioned rooms?
3. What time the soi 6 starts, I ema what is earliest time one can partake?
Will appreciate someone sparing a few seconds to let me know.
This is for the ones who want to sponsor or send money to their special "my girls" in Pattaya. Quite funny, but the girl is very cute. Where do I send the baht? ;)
[URL]http://pattayavideo.com/stories/on-the-prowl/in-da-loom/?doing_wp_cron=1411257103.4253029823303222656250[/URL]
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1623585]This is for the ones who want to sponsor or send money to their special "my girls" in Pattaya. Quite funny, but the girl is very cute.
[URL]http://pattayavideo.com/stories/on-the-prowl/in-da-loom/?doing_wp_cron=1411257103.4253029823303222656250[/URL][/QUOTE]A very funny video. It served as my Sunday morning wake up cartoon show. I loved the girl's wonderfully sincere voice and her simultaneous facial expression. "I'm sorry James. Not angry to me. Believe me, James! I no go with men," as she is sitting smiling with a customer. You can't make this shit up. What a comedy. What a natural born actress.
Pardon for the newbie question but I'm hoping you guys can fill me in. What can I reasonably expect to pay for 2 or 3 hours of short time during the afternoons and how many shots can I get for the price?
Do the places on Soi 6 offer more than one shot? I've had a few experiences with freelancers (not from the beach) and the best I've managed to get so far has been 2 in about a 2 hour session. I would prefer double that in a 2. 5-3 hour slot. Prices have ranged from 1,000 to 2,500. I understand the girls need to pace themselves for their evening work but I'm hoping for some professional tips from you guys.
Thanks,
HK
For those keeping score that clip is quite dated, maybe well over five years old although the message still applies for those sponsoring WGs. But with apps like Line, Whatsapp, Skype and others where video calls are available you can now see what your WG is doing rather than her telling you.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1622971]Help us out -- what do you give per day to them?[/QUOTE]There's definitely a range. Generally, I think a fair [B]minimum[/B] is 1000 baht per day (same as the low LT rate). Do consider that she is working and needs to earn money, not just cover the minimal obligations. In addition, you want to keep her happy, not on the cusp of thinking that she's better off elsewhere.
Of course a good looking girl who can easily pull 3 x1000 baht short times per day in the high season would not be happy earning 1000 per day on a long-term customer.
We all think we're insufferably handsome and insanely fun to be with, but it's impossible to know whether the girl sees it the same way. Thais, especially bargirls, are good at going along, pretending to be happy and not making a fuss, even if they're dying of boredom or being slightly irritated. Even if a working girl genuinely likes being with me and enjoys the holiday, I think of it as a bonus and it's not fair to financially punish (charge?) her for having a good time by paying less than the going rate.
This may be debatable, but I feel that it's better to pay every day or two and not a lump at the end. This way, she has no doubt that she'll get paid in the end, and is free to leave if she so desires. I truly have no desire to stay with someone who doesn't want to be staying with me (but maybe I'll be thinking differently when I'm 70).
Of course, if she really likes you and you have arrangements for the future (sponsorship or marriage and such), you can pay less, including nothing at all beyond expenses (for traveling, and any obligations she may have), but that would not be hiring a bargirl.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1623571]I have walked through Soi 6 but did not partake so have a few questions.
1. Do you you have to select and talk to girl outside bar before walking in or can one walk in and browse?
2. Do they have semi decent beds and air conditioned rooms?
3. What time the soi 6 starts, I ema what is earliest time one can partake?
Will appreciate someone sparing a few seconds to let me know.[/QUOTE]1. You can walk in but all the girls are outside most of the time. No reason to go in unless you want to buy a drink and talk to a girl.
2. Depends on the bar, most have A / C, I haven't run into one without A / C. Your on the bed for like 30 minutes. It won't matter.
3. Some open as early as 12, but girls trickle and most arrive between 1-2.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1623571]I have walked through Soi 6 but did not partake so have a few questions.
1. Do you you have to select and talk to girl outside bar before walking in or can one walk in and browse?
2. Do they have semi decent beds and air conditioned rooms?
3. What time the soi 6 starts, I ema what is earliest time one can partake?
Will appreciate someone sparing a few seconds to let me know.[/QUOTE]1. Most of the bars with closed doors / windows have no talent inside, unless they are already engaged with a client. It is (mainly) a "choose from what is on display" market.
2. You will find anything from good new beds to mattresses that remember the Vietnam war. Same with airco although that gets fairly ubiquitous nowadays. No harm in asking if their rooms have airco and proper beds.
3. I have walked through Soi 6 in the early afternoon and some bars were already open. By 7 PM or so they are all in full swing.
In response to what Croc said, if you do pay the girl every couple of days then make sure she knows it is her pay and not extra money you are giving her. I took a girl in Manila who I met online on a trip with me. Well before I met her she told me that she was P4P. One day during the trip I was out scuba diving and I gave her the 4000 pesos that I was paying her for the entire trip so that she could do what she wanted with her money.
At the end of the trip when we arrived in the airport in Manila she needed money to take a taxi home. I asked her what she did with the money that I had paid her the other day. She said she thought it was just spending money I was giving her and not money for her to take home. Hell she even forgot that she told me she was P4P and thought we were going on the trip to build a relationship. I had to remind her that when we first started chatting she said that she was P4P.
Thanks a bunch Sock111.
[QUOTE=Sock111;1623733]1. You can walk in but all the girls are outside most of the time. No reason to go in unless you want to buy a drink and talk to a girl.
2. Depends on the bar, most have A / C, I haven't run into one without A / C. Your on the bed for like 30 minutes. It won't matter.
3. Some open as early as 12, but girls trickle and most arrive between 1-2.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarifications Wolvenvacht. I liked the "vietnam" part especially.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1623754]1. Most of the bars with closed doors / windows have no talent inside, unless they are already engaged with a client. It is (mainly) a "choose from what is on display" market.
2. You will find anything from good new beds to mattresses that remember the Vietnam war. Same with airco although that gets fairly ubiquitous nowadays. No harm in asking if their rooms have airco and proper beds.
3. I have walked through Soi 6 in the early afternoon and some bars were already open. By 7 PM or so they are all in full swing.[/QUOTE]
After reading a recent report from Uncle Volodya, I decided to make Destiny my first gogo stop on the trip. The place is small with red benches all around in two rows-the second slightly elevated. Mamasan seated me in the front left corner seat by the stage and took my 50 baht drink order. I was somewhat relieved the beer was like 150 ml because I wasn't looking to get shitfaced. Good news is the beer was extremely cold.
After sitting, watching alone in silence for about five minutes one girl from the pen area took it upon herself to come by and keep me company. She was wearing the fake glasses (no braces) had a great round butt but was flat-chested with a small gut. Short, with a cute face, but surely would not have been outside of the well-planned lighting. Just as Uncle had hinted, after the first LD she became very responsive and all touching was allowed. I gave many a spank to her nice soft round butt. Her skin was well maintained and very smooth, just like Western strippers. It was totally that vibe there. Like a Western strip-joint with no stupid rules.
There was a tall blonde on stage then with braces and an extraordinary body. Great ass and decent size tits; she looked like a real sex machine. I bought mamsan a drink and demanded her to make sure that blonde came over to us as soon as she was offstage. Her name is Ann and me and the other girls remarked that she is "beautiful" for sure.
Once she realized I had asked for the blonde, the first girl notched it up one bit, straddling me and sticking her tongue down my throat. Her hand went under my belt and began massaging my balls. Mind you, this was in the front row with mamasan sitting by finishing her LD next to us. I'm still not sure if she cued her, but it seems likely.
Ann came over but did not want a drink and was a little cold at first. Once I started stroking her legs though she seemed to warm up and after a few minutes the "glasses" girl left for her dances and it was just Ann. It seemed as if her face was nice enough to be pretty outside the bar and her body was DEF. Flawless. I was suddenly surprised to find a girl came and sat on the other side and began licking my neck like a puppy dog. It was Be. She too has a great ass and her and Ann both were stroking the package, kissing and petitioning for a threesome at my place. I can't hear too well but I thing they wanted 4,000 with a 1500 BF. I would have needed Kamagra for that for sure and it would have been my fourth pop of the day, so basically I rode out the attention for the next few songs. My original goal was to check out Uncle's recommendation, and I can confirm the girls there are aggressively looking to get ST and mamasan's pushing them to rack up BF. Based on that, I don't believe LT is available here at all. I told Ann I'the come back for her this week and I'm still planning on it. If anyone wants to wingman up Destiny let me know.
[QUOTE=HamKeng;1623653]Pardon for the newbie question but I'm hoping you guys can fill me in. What can I reasonably expect to pay for 2 or 3 hours of short time during the afternoons and how many shots can I get for the price?
Do the places on Soi 6 offer more than one shot? I've had a few experiences with freelancers (not from the beach) and the best I've managed to get so far has been 2 in about a 2 hour session. I would prefer double that in a 2. 5-3 hour slot. Prices have ranged from 1,000 to 2,500. I understand the girls need to pace themselves for their evening work but I'm hoping for some professional tips from you guys.
Thanks,
HK[/QUOTE]From what I understand most girls would not look at a three hour session as short time. You need to tell them exactly what you want so there is no problem later. If you want to boom boom four times in three hours, make that clear up front and then negotiate price.
Most of the hotties won't even consider it. They can make more in a one shot short time.
[QUOTE=HamKeng;1623653]Pardon for the newbie question but I'm hoping you guys can fill me in. What can I reasonably expect to pay for 2 or 3 hours of short time during the afternoons and how many shots can I get for the price?
Do the places on Soi 6 offer more than one shot? I've had a few experiences with freelancers (not from the beach) and the best I've managed to get so far has been 2 in about a 2 hour session. I would prefer double that in a 2. 5-3 hour slot. Prices have ranged from 1,000 to 2,500. I understand the girls need to pace themselves for their evening work but I'm hoping for some professional tips from you guys.
Thanks,
HK[/QUOTE]One pop or about 2 hours max (whichever comes first) for ST, anything beyond that is to be negotiated. LT is usually only offered in the evening / night as it includes an overnight stay and taking care of your morning wood.
A golden rule is to clearly discuss your requirements before you close the deal. Of course you can always try to extend your stay by offering more money, but then you are in a weak position to negotiate.
[QUOTE=HamKeng;1623653]
Do the places on Soi 6 offer more than one shot? Thanks,
HK[/QUOTE]Doubtful. To the best of my knowledge (limited as it is), the Soi 6 establishments are basically knocking shops, and you will not be provided time to linger. Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.
Others may have different experiences along this delightfully grand boulevard of debauchery, but you might be hard-pressed to take a girl off-site (the best I got was that I could meet up with one of the lasses at one of the discos (Mixx or somesuch) after hours, meaning 4 am I consented but decided to call it a night, albeit with another hire, much earlier. And as for Soi 6, do make sure you won't end up with (cough) extra goods. Some establishments have both girls and ladyboys working the very same place. As a UN convention that kind of shit ought to be banned, but it is the case on Soi 6, so beware.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1623936]One pop or about 2 hours max (whichever comes first) for ST, anything beyond that is to be negotiated. LT is usually only offered in the evening / night as it includes an overnight stay and taking care of your morning wood.
A golden rule is to clearly discuss your requirements before you close the deal. Of course you can always try to extend your stay by offering more money, but then you are in a weak position to negotiate.[/QUOTE]How do you say 2 pops in Thai? Or do they generally understand 'pop'?
[QUOTE=WildHawk;1623940] Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.
[/QUOTE]Have been multiple times with the girls of "Red Point" (somewhere middle of Soi 6) ; not only good service, but also good rooms. No reason to complain.
[QUOTE=WildHawk;1623940]Doubtful. To the best of my knowledge (limited as it is), the Soi 6 establishments are basically knocking shops, and you will not be provided time to linger. Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.
Others may have different experiences along this delightfully grand boulevard of debauchery, but you might be hard-pressed to take a girl off-site (the best I got was that I could meet up with one of the lasses at one of the discos (Mixx or somesuch) after hours, meaning 4 am I consented but decided to call it a night, albeit with another hire, much earlier. And as for Soi 6, do make sure you won't end up with (cough) extra goods. Some establishments have both girls and ladyboys working the very same place. As a UN convention that kind of shit ought to be banned, but it is the case on Soi 6, so beware.[/QUOTE]Yes, some of the places on Yodsak have the bucket or hose set up. However, there are a # of places that have pretty decent rooms with actual showers. Reiner mentioned Red Point, but we have been in Nightwish and Ruby Club and they both have decent rooms with private showers. There is another one directly across street from Ruby Club as well. I know there are a few others, but those I remember off the top of my head. We have been pleasantly surprised and put off with some places, but its all part of the experience.
It is not hard at all to take a girl off site from Soi 6, these bars will BF the girls just like other Pattaya bars. Or at least we have never had any issues BF'ing here. We typically hit the 6 for a quick afternoon / evening ST before heading out for night, but occasionally we will meet one that we want to spend longer with. These bars close way earlier than 4 am, as this street is pretty much done by 1 am. Maybe the girls just do not like you.
[QUOTE=WildHawk;1623940]Doubtful. To the best of my knowledge (limited as it is), the Soi 6 establishments are basically knocking shops, and you will not be provided time to linger. Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.
Others may have different experiences along this delightfully grand boulevard of debauchery, but you might be hard-pressed to take a girl off-site (the best I got was that I could meet up with one of the lasses at one of the discos (Mixx or somesuch) after hours, meaning 4 am I consented but decided to call it a night, albeit with another hire, much earlier. And as for Soi 6, do make sure you won't end up with (cough) extra goods. Some establishments have both girls and ladyboys working the very same place. As a UN convention that kind of shit ought to be banned, but it is the case on Soi 6, so beware.[/QUOTE]I deffinately had better experience on Soi 6 then you. In fact, I never experienced water hoses or other substandard conditions. I always check the room before I decide to use it. The bars I go to on Soi 6 have better short time rooms then some hotel rooms I have seen. I have also taken them off Soi 6 at all times of day and night. You are correct to get all the particulars of what you want out of the way up front.
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1623977]Have been multiple times with the girls of "Red Point" (somewhere middle of Soi 6) ; not only good service, but also good rooms. No reason to complain.[/QUOTE]Red Point has some of the nicer rooms and en suite showers on Soi 6. They were renovated recently. O Bar is old school with shared bathroom and shower water from a barrel. The water barrel cleaning and rinse can be fun if you have the right attitude. In Macau it is called a "Japanese Shower" and they charge customers $25 for the 30 minute service with a pretty girl. LOL. I always focus on the girls. Find a sexy girl and the room will take care of itself ie it is not that big a deal. Taking a girl out to your hotel room is always an option and I recommended it if you really like a girl. It's more money of course. Try her ST first upstairs to see if she is worth an out call and you really want to spend more time with her.
Many Soi Sixers will tell you that the best way to enjoy Soi 6's unique set up and bar culture is to take your time, have a drink, walk the soi, meet a friendly girl, have a drink with her, boom boom up upstairs, say goodbye, and do it all over again as many times as you like, then call it a night. Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O Bar, Pussy Club (Amsterdamaged), Lisa Bar, and Click Bar (Lick Bar) are all friendly bars with good girls.
I am looking for advice in relation to the usual weather in Pattaya in March, April or May for those that have been during those months.
Basically, in addition to the wonderful entertainment that Pattaya has to offer, I am a big fan of chilling out on the beach during the day. I love the beach weather (sunshine) and am not so fond of clouds and rain. Hot is not a problem as long as the sun is shining.
I am hoping to turn my annual three week November pilgrimage into 2 x two week visits, but am trying to figure out which are the best times to visit. Obviously I would prefer to spread both visits apart enough so that I do not have to go without my happy place for too long.
I have been in late November, early December and loved the weather.
I am thinking, based on information from climate websites online, maybe 2 weeks late November and 2 weeks early April would suit my needs. Are the girls all worn out and jaded by April though?
Any thoughts / advice?
Thanks in advance.
Jack of Spades.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1624079]I am looking for advice in relation to the usual weather in Pattaya in March, April or May for those that have been during those months.
Basically, in addition to the wonderful entertainment that Pattaya has to offer, I am a big fan of chilling out on the beach during the day. I love the beach weather (sunshine) and am not so fond of clouds and rain. Hot is not a problem as long as the sun is shining.[/QUOTE]Looks like you are in for a treat then. It is usually about 100 F.
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1624079] Are the girls all worn out and jaded by April though?[/QUOTE]What girls? There are always new and different ones.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624035]Red Point has some of the nicer rooms and en suite showers on Soi 6. They were renovated recently. O Bar is old school with shared bathroom and shower water from a barrel. The water barrel cleaning and rinse can be fun if you have the right attitude. In Macau it is called a "Japanese Shower" and they charge customers $25 for the 30 minute service with a pretty girl. LOL. I always focus on the girls. Find a sexy girl and the room will take care of itself ie it is not that big a deal. Taking a girl out to your hotel room is always an option and I recommended it if you really like a girl. It's more money of course. Try her ST first upstairs to see if she is worth an out call and you really want to spend more time with her.
Many Soi Sixers will tell you that the best way to enjoy Soi 6's unique set up and bar culture is to take your time, have a drink, walk the soi, meet a friendly girl, have a drink with her, boom boom up upstairs, say goodbye, and do it all over again as many times as you like, then call it a night. Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O Bar, Pussy Club (Amsterdamaged), Lisa Bar, and Click Bar (Lick Bar) are all friendly bars with good girls.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1624000]I deffinately had better experience on Soi 6 then you. I have also taken them off Soi 6 at all times of day and night. You are correct to get all the particulars of what you want out of the way up front.[/QUOTE]All posts good information; I was simply basing my comment on my two sessions, during both of which the girl took me upstairs (directly above the bars in question). Just assumed that was the setup.
As the little feller was doing the thinking, hotel reviews were not my primary concern although conditions were indeed atrocious. Fortunately, the sex was great, better than that with many of the more expensive gogo girls. (Though one of the two tried to put a rush on the affair.) But we all know that paying more is no guarantee of a better experience.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1615895]I have been in PAt for 2. 5 days. It is cool and not busy.
So far rather disappointed but staying positive.
PP.[/QUOTE]Seriously,
This place, Pattaya, has just gone downhill rapidly. Did three tours, each worse than the last, and never really felt relaxed there, the energy was all wrong, I hardly fucked anybody compared to BKK, but hten again, I like to find a few good providers and just rotate them on the trip, it works because we get to know each other and that means great GFE not mediocre lots of bangs.
I actually 'live' in Chiang Mai now, among 'regular' thai people, and it is like moving from, say Soho (London) or Times Sq. (New York) to the suburbs. Folks are normal, you 'wai' and 'wai' in return (most important!) Not everyone, but the sort of folks you shake hands with back home if that makes sense.
Haven't seen a hooker in months except from my businesswoman girlfriends car, and no she is not Hi-so she came from the fields and worked hard!
It's nice living a normal life, but I miss the bar scene, and can't sneak out!
Still a bit off topic, but Pattaya sounds like it's going to get a makeover now that the generals are in power, at least they are making all promises. We shall see.
[URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-pictures[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lonely566;1624209][URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-pictures[/URL][/QUOTE]Nothing new about this. There have been regular police crackdowns on Beach Road and Walking Street since forever. Things always return to normal quickly. I've lived here almost 7 years now and life is still good. As others have said -- it's all about attitude.
[QUOTE=Lonely566;1624209][URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-pictures[/URL][/QUOTE]THB 300 hardly seems like a strong fine to discourage SWs.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1624254]THB 300 hardly seems like a strong fine to discourage SWs.[/QUOTE]The fine is actually 100 baht. They are charged with loitering. It was reported wrong in the video.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1623917]From what I understand most girls would not look at a three hour session as short time. You need to tell them exactly what you want so there is no problem later. If you want to boom boom four times in three hours, make that clear up front and then negotiate price.
Most of the hotties won't even consider it. They can make more in a one shot short time.[/QUOTE]Well now, that depends on how much cash you offer. But seriously, TellAll, I think that you (and many others) over estimate how much the girls on Soi 6 earn. I remember small-talking with a hostess at one of the bars (may have been Z) a couple of years ago, and she was telling me about one of her colleagues. She had been recruited from a factory in BKK a few months earlier (seems to be a fairly standard practice) and she had shown such a flair for the work that on one day she'd managed to do 4ST and 1 LT. This achievement had apparently gone into the local folklore. OK, I realise that this will have netted the girl around 5000 B in one day, which IS a lot, but considering that their work day is around 12 hours, four short-times do equal one client per 3 hours. So I wouldn't think that most girls would consider extra cash for three hours in the room as a "wasted opportunity".
[QUOTE=PlayHo;1623958]How do you say 2 pops in Thai? Or do they generally understand 'pop'?[/QUOTE]They will understand or you can use "finish two times".
[QUOTE=Priamos;1624312]Well now, that depends on how much cash you offer. But seriously, TellAll, I think that you (and many others) over estimate how much the girls on Soi 6 earn. I remember small-talking with a hostess at one of the bars (may have been Z) a couple of years ago, and she was telling me about one of her colleagues. She had been recruited from a factory in BKK a few months earlier (seems to be a fairly standard practice) and she had shown such a flair for the work that on one day she'd managed to do 4ST and 1 LT. This achievement had apparently gone into the local folklore. OK, I realise that this will have netted the girl around 5000 B in one day, which IS a lot, but considering that their work day is around 12 hours, four short-times do equal one client per 3 hours. So I wouldn't think that most girls would consider extra cash for three hours in the room as a "wasted opportunity".[/QUOTE]I believe I said make clear what you want up front and then negotiate price. I'm sure a soi 6 girl can be found to do it for the right price.
My reference to hotties were the girls at the go go's. They can make 3000 on a short time one pop. A lot of them won't even go longtime until late. Again if you are willing to fork over the right amount, anything is possible in Pattaya.
Day 32 Sunday March 30,2014 Pattaya Day 1:
I had scheduled VR Taxi Limo service to pick me up at noon for the drive to Pattaya. I use these guys all the time. I have even used them for airport pickups to drive straight to Pattaya upon arrival in LOS. They are always on time and very reliable.
[URL]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/URL]
At around 11:30 am I called Mr. Keak. His representative told me the driver was on his way. Three minutes later the driver called to tell me he was waiting in the Marriott parking lot. Actually, I found out later that the driver had driven up from Pattaya early in the morning to beat rush hour traffic and had been waiting for me since 9:30 AM in the hotel parking lot. I checked out of the Marriott Executive Apartments Thonglor and I met my driver who had pulled up in front of the hotel. He introduced himself as Mr. Be.
Mr. Be took Ekkamai to the Toll Road. BKK Traffic was light this Sunday and we got out of BKK pretty fast. Mr. Be put some country rock on the DVD player and I snoozed in the back seat. About halfway to Pattaya he asked me if I was hungry and if I wanted to stop at the food plaza. I told him I was not hungry, but that I wanted to stop and get something cold to drink. I bought a coke light and an ice coffee for my driver. Then walking back to the car, half-jokingly, I asked Mr. Be if I could drive to Pattaya and he surprised me and said ok. So I drove the rest of the way and we both got a good laugh out of it. Mr. Be commented that I was a good chauffeur and I told him he was a good customer and I expected a tip. About 100 yards before the end of the highway, Mr. Be suggested that I pull over and we switched drivers so the cops would not pull us over. Less than 10 minutes late he dropped me off at the Holiday Inn. I gave him a hundred baht tip and confirmed with him my return ride to BKK on April 2.
At the Priority Club check in I was upgraded to a high floor deluxe room facing the bay. My room was modern, light, and airy. It also had a small, but nice balcony. The price was around $100 per night. I changed into my bathing suit and hung out at the pool for about an hour. The Holiday Inn has a great infinity pool facing the beach and it felt real good to be back on the ocean. I only wish Pattaya Beach was clean and not polluted. I would definitely spend more time in Pattaya if I could swim in the water. But the Holiday Inn pool is real nice and the next best thing. Another good thing about the holiday Inn is they have a large kid's pool on the mezzanine level so the Adult pool is quiet and relaxing. I hate loud splashing kids in hotel swimming pools.
After pool time I relaxed for a while in my room and then at around 5:30 I headed out to check out the Six which was a few blocks away. To my surprise not much was going on. Most of the better bars were closed and shuttered and not many girls were about. Q Bar was one of the only bars open for business, but it did not seem like their best girls were available at the moment, so I decided to keep my powder dry and wait until the evening to score a hot Walking Street Go Go girl. The deadliness of Soi 6 was very surprising, because usually at this time all the bars are open and the girls are all sitting outside waiting for customers. I wondered what the fuck was up. I hoped it was not another holiday / bar closing that would spoil my first night here.
To kill a little time and because I had nothing better to do, I stopped off at Honey 2 Massage parlor on Second Road near Soi 6 and I checked out the lineup. IMHO Pattaya soapy massage parlors are not very good and can't be compared to BKK Soapies. Honey 2's fishbowl confirmed my opinion. There were about 30 girls present when I arrived plus a handful of customers. A host explained the pricing to me. He told me that M class girls are 2200 bt and numbered girls are 1800 bt. I ordered a coke light and sat down on a comfortable couch in front of the fishbowl. I could not see much difference in quality between the M class and the numbered girls. A lot of girls were giving me suggestive looks and signals to pick them. But nobody really turned me on and I again decided to wait for much more attractive Go Go girls later on. On the way back to the Holiday Inn I stopped off at a 7/11 to pick up some provisions. Then I headed back to the room.
Around 7:30 I headed back out. Something was definitely going on. The bay side of Beach Road was lined with a multitude of temporary roll away food carts, grill restaurants, stands selling T shirts and every other kind tourist stuff you can possibly imagine. It was so crowded with these stands and tourists that I found it impossible to walk down the sidewalk. Since I had not been to Pattaya since the powers that be narrowed the walkway in order to add another lane for traffic, I did not know what to make of all this congestion. Was this a special holiday event or was this the new Beach Road given over to tourist concession stands and small portable restaurants. In addition to it being impossible to walk here there was no room for freelancers either. So I knew this had to be temporary special occasion and that is why Soi 6 coincidentally was closed down too.
I took a baht bus to Walking Street. The roll away restaurants and tourist concession stands lined the entire beachfront all the way from the Holiday Inn to Walking street. It was incredible. Walking Street, however, was not that crowded. I grabbed some dinner on Soi 15 at one of the small restaurants that line that Soi. The chili prawns and som tom were great. Beer was not available due to the apparent holiday restrictions, but the owner told me beer would be available later in the evening. After dinner I walked past Sapphire Go Go, an old favorite bar of mine, but nothing was going on there. I returned to Walking Street and decided to check out Sensations Go Go. I had never been to this bar before, but a friend had told me that there were a lot of hotties in this bar. When I arrived I saw around 30 girls dancing on the two stages. I sat down and ordered a beer. Thank Buddha they were serving alcohol.
Sensations is not a large bar, but they have two stages. The girls on the first stage did not appeal to me at all. I saw a few nice faces, but it looked like there was a lot of silly cone over there. The girls on the 2nd stage didn't look too much better. A new group of girls hit both stages. I got some friendly looks from two or three of the girls, but they were not quite what I was looking for. I sipped my beer and started to think about moving on. Then all of a sudden two very attractive girls came out of nowhere and stood directly in front of me. These two very sexy girls were all smiles and they introduced themselves to me. Where these two friendlies came from and how I could have not spotted them? I do not know, but they were both very attractive and very, very friendly. After the greeting preliminaries were over, I offered the girls a drink and suggested we do Tequila shots. The girls both accepted, of course, and sat down on either side of me. One girl, with black hair, I forgot her name, spoke the better English of the two. The other girl, with dyed hair, was still very sociable, young, and attractive. Both girls had killer bodies.
While sitting and chatting with these two girls; I could not help but notice that the quality of the girls dancing on stage had improved dramatically from the time when I had first walked into Sensations. I guess I had had arrived a little too early tonight, before all the high quality Coyote Agency girls had showed up for work. Now that a sizable number of Sensation Coyotes girls were in the bar, I could see that this bar did indeed have some high quality girls working here. Not only were my two new friends very shag worthy, but I saw that there were many more equally shag worthy girls all over place. My friend was right. Sensations is a very hot bar IMHO and I was very impressed with the girls I now saw here.
So I was sitting there in between the two stages drinking shots with two hot Agency Coyotes on either side of me and both girls were letting their hands wander over my chest and crotch. I was torn. I couldn't decide who I wanted to shag because they are both pretty sexy and attentive. I wanted them both. I think I was leaning a little towards Black Hair because I was conversing more with her since she spoke the better English and also because she was the taller of the two girls and I liked her long black hair.
After a while Black Hair told me it was her turn to go on stage and dance. I asked if she really had to leave and she nodded, but she quickly added that she would come back right after her set. Then she left me alone with her friend F, a fatal mistake on Black Hair's part 555. Although F spoke less English than her friend, she was real nice and extremely sexy. We started holding hands while I watched Black Hair dance on stage. F told me she was 24. While she was lightly rubbing my crotch, she said I was big. Again 555. I told her little Gogul was still sleeping, but he would wake up fully if someone kept rubbing him. She gave me a little kiss with some tongue and continued to lightly brush her hand over my dick. I was sold and I was all hers. I am such a weak man. I could not even wait 20 minutes for Black Hair to return to make her case; I am that easily swayed by pretty Thai girls.
I asked F if she wanted to go to my hotel and she smiled enthusiastically. Then she called over the Mamasan to explain the barfines. I knew going in that the barfines were very expensive in this bar, so I wasn't too surprised when the Mama told me the barfine was 1500 bt. I made a huge exaggerated face to the two women and exclaimed that 1500 bt was a hell of a lot for a barfine. The Mamasan told me that the barfine is 1000 bt after midnight. But since it was only around 9 pm I definitely didn't feel like waiting three hours for a shag. So I told the mama I wanted to talk to F privately and she politely withdrew. I now conferred with F and asked how much she wanted. F said she wanted 2000 bt for ST and 4000 bt for LT. I told her that I preferred a ST for our first date and if we both had a good time I would do a LT the next time. F understood what I am saying and she whole heartedly agreed. So it was 3500 bt all in. Because I knew the second I laid eyes of F and Black Hair that I wanted to shag both girls, I had no problem agreeing to the deal. F called the mama back and I paid the barfine and my drink tab. F then asked if she should change and I told her yeah. After a few minutes she came back dressed very nicely in a black outfit with flowers. She looked real good in her street clothes.
I bought another round of Tequila and we took our time getting to know each other a little more. Black Hair came back and joined us after her dance set and she was happy that I had barfined her friend. She told me that F was a good girl and I told her that I would take good care of F. Then I ordered another round of Tequila for the three of us and we toasted our new friendship. After a while I suggested to F that we leave and off we went. F suggested we take a motorcycle taxi back to my hotel which was exactly what I was thinking. I remember F wanted to sit behind me on the bike. She hugged me close as the motorcycle taxi zipped through 2nd road traffic. I could feel her small breasts pressed against my back.
In the room F started out a little shy and wanted to take a shower by herself. She disrobed and I could see that her gear was in great shape. She had a beautiful tight young body and very nice natural "A" cup ta ta's. I showered quickly after her shower and then I joined her in bed. We started out slow with some gentle kissing. As the kissing got more serious we started to explore each other's bodies. She gave me a good BBBJ. Then we made out some more and I started to kiss her nipples. I just could not resist her charms and freshness and I went down on her. I took my time down there, first licking her Labia Majora before I started kissing her well defined Labia Minora. When I knew she was ready I made direct contact with her clit. She became very wet and I knew I was exciting her. After a while she pulled me up and said she wanted me inside her. I gave her a condom and she wrapped me. Then I glided into her warm pussy. Her vagina felt real good as I gave it to her in misch. After a while we rolled over and she gave me her version Asian Cowgirl with the souls of her feet planted firmly on the bed. I palmed her wonderful small breasts and then later placed my hands on her thighs as she continued to ride me. It was a great shag.
Afterwards we soapy showered together and she cleaned me up. At this point she was very affectionate and no longer shy. I took a few photos of her back in the bedroom. She asked me not to show any of the nude shots and I promised her I would not. I told her I really liked her a lot and would try to drop by her bar tomorrow night to see her. She smiled and said she would wait for me. We relaxed and watched a little TV and then F began her preparations to leave. I asked her if she was heading back to Sensations and she said yes, but she seemed reluctant about leaving. She asked me if I wanted her to stay. I thought about it, but I didn't quite feel like doing another LT tonight after M's overnighter the previous night, so I told F I was tired from my long trip and I began to dress too. I gave F 2000 bt plus a 300 bt tip. Then hand in hand I escorted her downstairs. We kissed goodbye in the long dark Holiday Inn driveway leading up to Beach Road. She got on one of the motor cycle taxis that are always waiting there on Beach road. She turned to smile and waved as the bike took her away.
Although it was still relatively early, I didn't feel like going back out on the town. If I had felt like hitting more bars and staying out late, I would have kept F and gone barhopping with her. But truth be told, I hadn't slept much the previous night with M and I felt a little tired after my ST session with F. So I went back upstairs, turned on the TV, and kind of watched a movie while typing out the journal entry to what became this night's trip report. Bottom line: I had a real good time with F and I was glad I met her. I was very impressed with the quality of girls in Sensations Go Go. It felt great to be back in Pattaya. I couldn't help questioning why I had scheduled so little time here this trip. Damn! I only had two more nights in Pat.
A note on Sensations Go Go and Coyote barfines:
Sensations is a Pattaya Walking Street Go Go that employs Agency girls, aside from their hostesses and service girls. At least 50% to 60% of the dancers in Sensations are Coyotes and the balance are regular bikini girls. The barfine for Coyotes is 1500 bt before midnight and 1000 bt after midnight. I think the barfine for regular girls is 700 bt anytime. The goal of the staggered barfine is to keep as many hot girls in the bar as long as possible attracting customers and maximizing drink revenue and it works. This is a disturbing trend in the Pattaya Go Go scene and I really hope it does not come to BKK, but there is nothing much to do about it as far as I am concerned as long as the Agency Coyotes are of such high quality.
I have known a few really nice Agency girls and after I got to know these girls (barfined them at least once) they offered me workarounds to avoid their high barfine. For example, I used to arrange dates with Nt, my regular What's Up Go Go agency stunner to barfine her at midnight after her bar's barfine dropped from 2000 bt to 1000 bt. Nt would not barfine any other customer as long as made a date with her and I arrived at her bar before midnight. On a couple of occasions I dropped by What's Up at around 11:30 pm and she would be sitting with a paying Japanese or a Western customer. She would give me a knowing glance and I would sit down at another table. A couple of Nt's friends would come by to entertain me and in 5 or 10 minutes Nt would extricate herself from her drink paying customer and join me. I would buy her one lady drink and then at midnight she would go and change her clothes.
We would also arrange to get together during the afternoon around 2 pm for lunch. Nt knew many great local Pattaya restaurants. After lunch we would do something GFE like going bowling or visit the botanical garden or go shopping (her favorite). Then if time permitted we would head back to my hotel for a late afternoon quickie. No barfine.
Nt also came up to see me in BKK one time. Actually she came to see her young daughter who lived with her mother in BKK. She would come by my hotel around midnight and spend the rest of the night with me. Again there was no barfine. So I like to think of the large staggered barfine as a finders fee for meeting some very sexy girls and if we click the girls will come up with workarounds to reduce the barfine on subsequent dates. Oh what a time I would have if I only lived in Pat.
I am currently being offered the same kind of workaround with a super sexy Makati Burgos Street bar girl I met later in this trip. Her bar, Bottoms, has an onerous 3900 p barfine (almost $100) which is not that unusual for better Burgos St bars by the way. She is well aware of how the super high barfine impacts her regular and potential customers. That is why she offered to take a short leave from her bar when I return to Makati. She is a smart girl. She knows I really like her and I think she likes me a little too. By making herself available to me without the barfine, she practically guarantees that I will spend many consecutive nights with her. Yeah, I have already left two weeks open on my next trip for her (maybe) and I might take her to Palawan if our reunion goes well. We text back and forth every other week or so.
So to each his own on whether you want to play the staggered barfine game or not. I think it depends on one's circumstances and time frame. I definitely suggest bar hoping Pattaya Walking Street Go Go's and comparing the quality levels of girls at Coyote Agency bars like Sensations and What's Up to quality levels at non Agency bars like Baccara (Walking Street), Happy, and SuperBaby to name a few. My next report will be on my experiences at Happy A Go Go, a non Agency bar.
I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.
Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?
I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.
Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.
Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.
[QUOTE=Hermescali;1624487]I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.[/QUOTE]Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.
[QUOTE=Laalaa;1624517]Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?
I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.
Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.
Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.[/QUOTE]I've done that trip several limes, very easy and convenient. Ten minutes after you have landed you've got your bag and are on your way again. Bangkok Air provides free coffeem juice, water and snacks at Utapao as well as free wifi.
I've already bought my air ticket fir February, flying to Phuket from Utapao.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624538]Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.[/QUOTE]Some guys ***** ***** ***** about everything. Are the food stands gone from Beach Road now?
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624538]Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.[/QUOTE]The girls here, by and large, all seem to be fuckable. I was at Windmill last night and one of the girls on stage I would describe as cute face, ok butt, but with the nicest natural the-boobs I may have ever seen, be it in real life or on the internet. She was pretty tan, but I feel like those complexion issues are for the Thais to work out amongst themselves. I've always been attracted to Mexican women, mainly because their skin is the color of a permanent summer tan, with asians def. High up on my preference list. The white-skinned, waif Thai women seem to be the exception rather than the rule here.
Even on Soi 6 early in the day there seemed to be at least one girl at every bar that would no doubt be considered "hot' at any nightclub in Thailand or the West. It's impossible to predict what any given man would find attractive in a woman, but I promise any man he can find a woman that he finds attractive (hot) in Pattaya and fuck her brains out, for like $40-$60 US. One could have a not-so cute face but a pretty shaved pussy; another could have awesome skin and face but sort of a flat ass; and on and on.
[QUOTE=Hermescali;1624487]I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.[/QUOTE]I concur with Mr. NB. And also the free lance seen is as good as ever: Red Car, I-Bar, and Lucifer are all full of attractive girls that will go home with you for LT for between 1. 5 - 3 K.
I have done it a few times, no problems on the twin prop planes.
Not trying to put you off, but from memory one of them did crash about 10 years ago landing in Koh Samui.
I don't remember the reason for it.
[QUOTE=Laalaa;1624517]Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?
I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.
Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.
Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lonely566;1624209][URL]http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-pictures[/URL][/QUOTE]This link has some funny-as-hell pictures, some of the looks of passerby is priceless, one little white punter in paticular, does not look too thrilled with his Pattaya experience!
That katoey in the police bus looks like she is telling the tourist cop he was not so authoritive when she was cornholing him the night before! LOL! I undersand those white tourist cops are volunteers... why? Firstly I'm sure the City of Pattaya can afford to 'reward' them at least a 'Thai' wage, and since it must be a really crappy gig, they'd be better use, and likely happier men, helping an animal shelter IMHO.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1624314]They will understand or you can use "finish two times".[/QUOTE]If you want a few more 'just for monger' Thai phrases, look at my new thread here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3623-Some-useful-Thai-for-mongers[/URL].
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1624314]They will understand or you can use "finish two times".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624538]Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.[/QUOTE]It's horses for courses, I'm not a fan of Pattaya, but some guys love it, fair play to them.
To any first-timer I would say DON'T book your hotel for the whole time you are going to be there, take a night only if you can do so, to see if you like the hotel or like the scene. In both cases, it should be easy to move, even in high season, as there are always guys who no show, die, get busted, go to ER, or leave early. And once there, there is alaways another room to be had. (Same of course, goes for BKK in reverse, you can always leave if your hotel booking is not locked in for the whole stay)
Never forget BKK is just a few easy hours away by car bus taxi at almost any time of day and night, so don't feel you are caught there. If you're not having fun within 48 hours chances are, it's not for you, pull the pin on it, and try BKK!
Also, you can try Koh Samet -NOT Koh Samui, just a hour further down the coast, but I'd suggest you take a girl 'on tour' with you there, it is more for honeymooners and middle class Thai than mongers, but it can be like paradise if the girl and you work out and hell if you don't! Remember, you'll have to pay for her trip then too, plus her 'salary'! Make sure she works well as a translator and other chores like sending and collecting your out-sourced laundry, snacks, beer, etc.
Those of you with a little more time or money who have come half way around the world should also remember that Angeles City (Clark Airport) and Cambodia are mere hours away on relatively cheap regional flights if you want to sample them at any point as well.
I do hope you enjoy Pattaya, I hope it may even evolve one day to be more like BKK in terms of the scene, but that's just me. ;-)
Peace out.
Day 33 Monday March 31,2014 Pattaya Day 2:
It was a beautiful sunny morning in Pattaya. All the previous night's concession stands were gone from Beach Road, thank Buddha. I took a baht bus over to Soi Post Office and cut over to 2nd Road where I ran into my favorite juice lady. I bought a couple of fresh OJ's from her and then continued my walk past Tim Bar over to Soi 13. From there I walked past LK Metro up to Soi Buakhao. Across the street on Soi Lengkee is a wonderful little breakfast bakery caf called the Loaf. IMHO this place has the best breakfasts in Pattaya. I ordered a sticky almond bun, a double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Everything was great.
After breakfast I jumped on another baht bus going north. I got off just before Central Pattaya Road in order to check out Mr. Jacks watch store. I specifically wanted to buy a couple of Patek Philippe fakes, one for my Dad because he gets a kick out of wearing good copies and one for me. Jacks had three Patek Philippe knockoffs available, a large black face, a large white face, and a smaller white face model. He said they were made in Taiwan and of good quality. The price was 2500 bt for each. I bought the black face and the large white face and gave him 50% down. He said the watches would be ready for pickup tomorrow at 10 am.
After that I walked back to the Holiday Inn by way of Beach Road. It was getting pretty warm and I needed to cool off by the pool after my walk. Later around 4 pm I took another walk down Beach Road to the Hilton and back. I went out early and had a tasty dinner consisting of curry prawns, a mango smoothie, and durian fresh cut wedges for desert at a restaurant inside the Pattaya Central Market.
I headed back out on the town around 8 pm and took a baht bus to a couple of blocks north of the Hilton where the FL's begin to congregate in large numbers and then I walked Beach Road the rest of the way to Walking Street. I like to take this stroll in the evening to see all the free lancers. Some of the girls were ok and many gave me the "Hello, handsome" look, but I did not stop to chat and I proceeded to Walking Street. My game plan was simple: to hit a few favorite bars first to see what was up and then if I found nobody to my liking, I would head over to Sensations Go Go and fool around with F and Black Hair. I really liked F, but I was thinking, maybe tonight I should give Black Hair a try. She was just as attractive, but had a completely different look and was at least as friendly F in the bar.
Like the previous night, I first stepped into Sapphire Go Go. There was only one other customer. I saw a couple of nice looking girls and both of them smiled at me as they danced on stage. One of them asked to be invited over. Some girls were topless. I drank my coke light and got up to leave. I hand signaled the cuter girl that I might come back later and she nodded. In my opinion Sapphire is in rough shape. This used to be a great lively bar with a bevy of sexy girls and they always had lots of customers. I have fond memories of sucking girls' nipples in this bar and getting handies under the table. Yeah, I have had some good times here, but from what I saw tonight and last night; I don't think Sapphire will be around for too much longer. It is too bad, although maybe, I just dropped by too early. I hope that was the case.
The next bar I dropped by was Super Girls, another old favorite Go Go of mine. As I approached the front door, I was warmly greeted by the Chinese looking host. Inside it was sad situation too. There were only a couple of Japanese customers and out of the 10 to 15 girls dancing on stage; I didn't see any that really appealed to me. I ordered another coke light just to be friendly. Jeez, this place used to have some of the hottest girls on Walking Street! A waitress came by and suggested I pick a girl. She was kind of attractive in non-Go Go ordinary Thai girl way and I told her that I wanted her. She laughed and said, "I cannot", and then she added, "I am not as pretty or as young as the dancers. " I asked her how old she was and she said 26. I was just kidding around and being friendly, so I told her that she was prettier than the dancers and I wanted her. We both laughed. I circled the bar to make absolutely sure about the talent or lack thereof and then I split.
The 3rd bar I hit was Happy A Go Go and it was a different story here. There were a lot of girls dancing on two different stages and more girls sitting around. The place was packed with customers interacting with the girls. It was a party scene going on here. There was hardly an empty seat, and the overall vibe was, well what can I say, happy. It should be noted that Happy A Go Go is part of the Happy Management Group which includes their flagship Go Go, Baccara, not to be confused with Soi Cowboy's Baccara which is owned by a completely different company; Peppermint Go Go, which is another old time favorite Go Go of mine; and Beach Club. I also should point out that none of the bars in the Happy group have Agency girls and the barfine is a standard 700 bt at any time.
I spotted a hot little number dancing right in front of me as soon as I sat down at the main bar. I was so close to her I could almost touch her. I said Hi, but she did not acknowledge my presence. WTF! I ordered a beer and keep looking around. I spotted a few more hotties, but they didn't seem to appreciate my attention either. There were plenty of other girls smiling at me, but unfortunately they were not as pretty. I sipped my beer and continued to watch the first girl. She sure was hot, but she pretended not to notice me. I realized she had a Japanese style hairdo and look. That explained her attitude, but I couldn't help looking at her from time to time; she was that good. As she left the stage I noticed she headed for a corner and sat alone. Too bad. What a waste of talent, but it is a free country and if she wants to market herself exclusively towards the Asian customers then so be it. I didn't approach her or try to talk her up because of the way she acted towards me on stage. What would be the point?
Meanwhile I turned around and saw this cute little hostess girl in a red dress sitting behind me. I flirted with her a little and thought about buying her a drink. But I also began to think that maybe it was time to head over to Sensations Go Go and find F and Black Hair. I was thinking that I wanted Black Hair tonight.
But before I could find a waitress to ring up my tab, all the current dancers left the main stage and an entirely new set of girls come on board. The second or third new girl on stage was a tall cute girl and she was sporting very large ta ta's. We exchanged glances and she smiled. I smiled back and then looked away, but every time I looked her way, she would keep giving me her big broad smile. Her smile became a magnate to me. I tried to look at some other dancing girls, but some force kept pulling my eyes back to take a look at this big titied girl and every time I looked at her she flashed me her big smile. Normally big titied Thai girls are not my style, but this girl was very cute and had that adorable smile that was set to go off every time I looked at her. What could I do? I resisted her smile as long as I could, but in the end I had to ask her over for a drink. She nodded at my invitation and gave me a Wai, the Thai thank you sign.
After a little while, it was her turn to leave the stage and she came over. I bought her a drink and we talked. Na was charming and very sweet. We held hands and occasionally she brushed her free hand on my dick. We kissed lightly a little. But I wondered about her large breasts and so I came straight out with it and asked if they were real. She smiled and said they were and placed my hand on her breast to prove it. We continued to talk and got more acquainted. I guess it is fair to say I allowed myself get picked up by this smiling girl. Na asked if I wanted to barfine her and I said yes rationalizing that my Sensation girls would keep until tomorrow night. The Happy Go Go standard barfine is 700 bt, and and said she wanted 2500 bt for ST. It seemed a tad high considering I usually pay 2000 bt for ST and 2000 bt was the sum Fa had asked for too over in Sensations. But I don't like to negotiate. I feel it ruins the vibe. Na's price was at the high end to be sure, but not out of line for Walking Street Go Go girls these days and she had a very pleasing way about her, so I agreed to the price. The Mama came by and I paid the barfine plus my drink tab. Meanwhile Na left to go get dressed.
When she came back I asked her if she wanted to have a real drink and she said she knew a bar where prices were cheaper and if I wanted she would take me there. So off we went. Her friendly bar is called Girow Topoli and it is located down the Soi 15 past What's Up Go Go and very close to 2nd road. It turned out that Na's sister was a waitress here and she and Na shared a room in the back. So we went to her bar for after barfine drinks. The sister was nice and friendly and I met the owner and a ladyboy friend of Na's. We ordered 2 Mai Tais, Na's drink of choice, Ugh, too sweet, I can't remember the last time I had a Mai Tai, but I had a good time talking, holding hands, and occasionally kissing Na. We also watched a Thai soap opera while hanging out at this cozy little bar. Na's sister took good care of us and I was made to feel very much at home here. Na wanted to smoke the Shisha so I bought her a bowel. She tried to turn me on to it and I took a couple of hits, but Shisha ain't for me. If only it were weed, it would have been another story and I probably would have rented a room here. 555. Anyway, I had a good time drinking and relaxing with Na and her sister in this small low key bar / restaurant.
After our Mai Tai's we headed back to my hotel via motorcycle taxi. Na sat in between the driver and me. I held her tight. She practically rode my dick the whole way back. In my room Na was surprisingly a little shy about her body. She told me she was 26 and had two kids. She said she was a little embarrassed about her large boobs. I asked her to show them to me and she took them out of her bra. I must say, her two large natural "De" cups were an impressive sight and I noted that they were still holding up pretty well. I mean you have to expect some gravitational effects when you are talking about a mass this large, but they looked pretty good to me and considering the fact that I normally prefer much smaller breasts on my Asian girls, this is a compliment on my part. But the feature that really caught my eye was Na's huge brown areolas. She had the largest areolas I have ever seen on a Thai girl! They were slightly larger than an American silver dollar. Naturally, I told and her breasts were beautiful and she said, "really?" and I quickly moved over and started kissing and fondling them to show her I meant what I said.
Still a little shy, Na wanted to shower alone and I did not press my preference for a soapy shower on her. Afterwards Na came out of the bathroom wrapped in a towel and got into bed. I gave her the TV remote and took a fast shower. After I cleaned up and dried off, I joined her. I started out slow with Na and we exchanged a lot of wet kisses. Then I slowly unwrapped her. I started kissing her large boobs and then she started kissing my nipples. Eventually she worked her way down to my cock where at first she just kissed my dick, but then later she took the whole tool into in her mouth and smoked me proper. I brought her back upstairs and she asked for a condom. I said I wasn't ready yet and I got on top of her in between her legs. I began to massage her pussy with my dick. There was no penetration. I was just gliding my dick gently in between her pussy lips parallel to her body. I kept this up for a while until Na softly asked me for a condom and I reached over on the nightstand and gave her one.
Na wrapped me up and got on top. My dick glided into her pussy like a hot knife cutting through room temperature butter. Despite having two kids, Na's pussy felt real good. Na proceeded to ride me cowgirl, at first on her knees, then Asian cowgirl with her feet planted flat on the bed. After 15 minutes or so, I could see that she was getting tired, poor darling, so I rolled her over and took over in mish. We started kissing heavy now and she gave me her tongue to suck. Then I moved down to her large tits and started kissing her brown puffy nipples. She was moaning softly. Slowly I felt my orgasm building and then I came.
Afterwards we laid together and recovered. She cleaned me off and then we took a shower together. Na was no longer shy in front of me. She told me I was her first customer that she has ever showered with. Uhmmm? But then she didn't seem all too familiar with what to do in the shower with a man and I showed her how to soap up my dick and wash it in an erotic way. I then soaped up her large chest and start body massaging her breasts. She seemed to like what was going on and we kissed some more. I was hard again and started rubbing my cock against her body slightly above her vagina. I had to stop pretty soon though or else I would have been bareback riding her in the shower.
After soapy shower time, Na asked if I wanted her to stay the night. I thought about it a little, I kind of wanted a 2nd round and it would have been nice, but in the end, I decided against it. I gave her my standard line that on a first date I prefer ST so we can get to know each other and then look forward to a LT on the 2nd date. It was after midnight so actually Na and I had been together 3 hours since around 9 pm. It was a GFE to be sure. She was very adorable and sexy. A very sweet girl, but I think she is looking for a steady boyfriend. We exchanged cell numbers and she asked me to call her tomorrow. She said she would like to come by my hotel around 8 pm. I ask her if that meant I did not have to pay her barfine? And she said, "no still must pay barfine. " After we hook up, we will go to Happy, but she wanted to come my hotel first so she would not have to get dressed tomorrow night and dance on stage. I assumed it was also because she wanted to nail down another night with me. LOL. Anyway, I told her I was not sure what I was doing tomorrow at 8, so she should not come by until we talked. I assured her I would call her tomorrow.
So with that out of the way, I put 3000 bt (2500 bt plus 500 bt tip) in her purse and I escorted and down to the lobby. She kissed me like she really meant it as we walked down the dark Holiday Inn driveway to Beach Road. We said goodbye and she got on a baht bus back to her bar / apartment. She gave me one of her baby doll smiles that hooked me in the first place and then she waved as the baht buss took her away. I headed over to Lisa bar on 2nd road for a nightcap.
Note: this was another real good night in Pattaya and you could not get a greater divergence in Thai girls between Fa and Na. Both girls were great in their own way. Both girls picked me. And interestingly, the price differential between the two girls was only 300 bt.
Fa was in perfect 22 year old physical condition. She was a good girl and had a very friendly, sexy attitude and personality. She was up for most anything. She had a tight athletic body with not an ounce of fat. We got into some pretty wild sex and I loved going down on her fresh pussy. She had the energy to keep going and going and going. She plum wore me out. LOL.
Na, on the other hand was softer, more vulnerable, and needier. She acted more like an amateur although in an entirely charming way. Na definitely aimed to please and she was very sweet. But, I believe she was / is on the prowl for a steady customer and boyfriend. I had a good time with her, but I am not sure how close I would want to be with her. Fa, on the other hand was pure fun. I think I lean more towards pure fun.
So the relevant question at this point in my brief holiday in Pattaya was; where to go and who to see tomorrow night? And the larger metaphysical issue of the entire trip was; why did I only schedule only 3 nights in Pattaya? The sex capital of South East Asia? I love this town! 3 nights is not enough time here.
Day 34 Tuesday April 1, 2014 Pattaya Day 3.
It was deja vu all over again this beautiful morning in Pattaya. First I stopped by my favorite juice lady's stand on 2nd Road and Soi Post Office and bought a few OJ's. Then I went back over to Soi Lengkee to have another great breakfast at the Loaf. I couldn't resist ordering the same thing as yesterday; sticky almond bun, double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Exceptionally good and very moderately priced! I really like this place.
Then I went back to Jack's Watch Shop to pick up my 2 Patek Phillipe fake watches. But there was a mix up with the order. I had specifically wanted two large watches, one with the black face and one with the white face. They had two large white faces waiting for me. Since I was planning to give one of the watches to my father anyway, I accepted the incorrect order and agreed to take both white face models. Mr. Jack made a final check and calibration on the watches. The first watch passed the calibration tests and was performing well. Then Mr. Jack discovered that the 2nd white watch was not performing well in either the horizontal or vertical positions and he detected that it was losing an unacceptable 15 seconds per month. Mr. Jack said that this 2nd watch was no good and he would return it and get a new watch for me. So he told to come back to the shop at 9:30 pm and they would have a black face Patek Phillipe waiting for me. I appreciated Mr. Jack's integrity and the quality control checks he performs on his merchandise. He is clearly an honest forthright businessman. He gives a full one year warranties on all his watches and said that if mine ever break down after the warranty was up he would fix them at a modest cost. I told Mr. Jack's shop assistant to hold my white face and I would return at 9:30 to pick up both of my watches.
From the watch shop I walked back to the Holiday inn along Beach Road and worked up a sweat so I spent the next couple of hours relaxing by the pool. I could not help but notice this fat Korean guy with 2 sexy CIS (former Soviet Republic) girls by the pool. He had ordered a bottle of wine and grand lunch for his girls. After a brief plunge in the pool, however, he left the girls alone and went somewhere else to conduct his business. I was just floating around in the far end of the pool, when the girls swam over to approximately where I was. I said Hi and they said Hi back. One of the girls spoke decent English and we talked a little. She had a very sexy body and I could see how the Korean was attracted to these girls. The girl I was speaking to said she usually goes to Club Insomnia on most nights and that I should go there sometime because it was a real nice place. To be friendly I told her I might try to stop by tonight, but I was leaving tomorrow for BKK so I wasn't sure what I was doing tonight. She said, "Oh that is too bad. ".
After pool time I took another long walk down Beach Road to the Marriott and back and then I took a little nap. I woke up around 5 pm and I called Na to see what she was up to. Na answered her phone kind of groggy and told me she was still in bed. I guess she had a late night with my money after she left me last night. Ha Ha. I let her go back to sleep and suddenly I was totally free to do anything that came along. I really liked Na and wanted to see her again, but I also really liked Fa and wanted to shag her again, and I also was seriously thinking about barfining Black Hair, Fa's friend at Sensations, plus there were so many other Go Go's, especially a couple on LK Metro that I wanted to check out. So night was approaching and I was open to any new adventure that might come along. I didn't have a plan or have any idea what I was exactly going to do tonight, but I did know that whatever I chose to do, it was going to be a lot of fun. It was my last night in Pat and I intended to make it count.
It was around 6:30 pm and I couldn't wait around any longer so I headed out. I was getting hungry too and decided to get something to eat. I walked over to Soi 6 and attempted to cross over from Beach Road to 2nd Road, but as I was walking down Soi 6, I spotted a little waif like cutie sitting out front of Red Point Bar. She smiled at me as I passed by. I had bigger ideas in mind for the evening, but for some reason I reversed course a few bars down and went back to Red Point to flirt a little and see what was up. It was a pure impulse sex buy at the point of exchange, but what the hell. I bought BeBe a drink inside her bar. She was friendly and demure. She sat close to me and I put my arm around her. She responded positively and I kissed her a little. BeBe said she was 21 and new to Pattaya. She also said she had a baby living at home with her mother. I don't know why exactly, but I decided to shag her. I guess my decision was based partly on the fact that she was kind of cute and different from most Thai girls I had been shagging so far this trip and also because I felt a little edgy and as such did not feel like waiting till later to get it on. Red Point's ST rooms are 300 bt plus BeBe wanted 1000bt. I did not feel like negotiating her down and so I accepted her offer.
The room upstairs was very nice and newly refurbished. I would say it was the nicest Soi 6 ST room that I have ever been in. BeBe, it turned, out was a kisser and we spent a lot of time on the bed making out. She seemed a little shy about taking a shower with me, but I convinced her of it's merits. Then, once we were both in the shower, BeBe did not appear to know what to do with our wet and naked bodies. I was patient with her and I told her she should clean me. She lathered up and started to give me a soapy handie. I palmed her breasts and played with her pussy a little. Then I soaped up and body massaged her. Back on the bed we kissed a lot more and I began massaging with her small breasts. She went down and smoked me pretty good. Then it was time for boom boom. The sex was basic mish, nothing elaborate, yet despite her lack of skills, the sex was surprisingly very good. The fact was that little BeBe turned me on by acting inexperienced and she ended up giving me a really satisfying shag. She could not compare to Fa or Na, my Walking Street Go Go sex buddies and she seemed to be straight from the rice paddy. But damn, apparently I needed a little of her back to basics, old fashioned sex. She took the edge right off and I felt real good after I left Red Point.
I had dinner again at the Pattaya central market. This time I had squid in lemon sauce, som tom, and a mango smoothie. It was almost 9 pm by the time dinner was over. Where does the time go? I crossed the street and went to Mr. Jacks. My black face Patek was waiting for me. Mr. Jack tested and calibrated it. The watch performed well. He gave me two complimentary travel boxes for my watches as he had promised earlier and I thanked him. I was very happy with both watches. They looked beautiful and very authentic, even down to the leather wrist band and Patek Philippe's unique way of clasping the band in place. Mr. Jack advised me not to drop the watches or get them wet. For 2500 bt a piece I don't think you can find better quality replicas. The watches are great copies of two $25,000 originals. My Dad loved his gift. I let him pick which model he preferred and he chose the white face. He wears it every time we have lunch together. Both watches are still keeping real good time.
I thanked Mr. Jack and said goodbye. Then I took a motorcycle taxi back to my hotel in order to drop off the watches, but the taxi guy slowed down for some reason in front of Lisa Bar and I noticed a couple of sexy dancers gyrating on one of the small stages, so I decided to get off here. The bar was going pretty strong and I fancied a couple of the dancers. I ordered a beer and cooled out watching the girls. Around 10 pm I got a call from Na asking where I was and did I want to see her tonight? She said she was not going to Happy Go Go tonight after all. I told her I was at Lisa Bar and said she should come by and meet me here. About a half hour later she joined me. As soon as she saw me, she flashed that beautiful warm smile of hers and I was glad to see her again. We both had a beer and held hands under the table. Then we walked back to the Holiday Inn arm in arm.
We made out as we watched a little TV and had two more beers. Then it was shower time. Na was no longer shy. We played around in the shower and then moved back to the bed were things got hot pretty fast. Na went down on me and started kissing my dick. I asked her to turn towards the foot of the bed and to straddle my body with one of her legs so I could 69 her. Na has a real nice ass and I found being in this posterior position in regards to her body really turned me on. I started slow by kissing her outer lips and inner thigh area. Then I licked her labia minora and inserted my tongue as far as it would go into her vagina. By this time Na was very wet. Finally I began sucking her clit and I ended up taking the whole thing and then some into my mouth. All the while Na was smoking me and taking my dick in as far as it would go into her mouth. I stopped things just before climax time and brought Na back up to me and we made out.
I then rolled her over and got on top. Like last night I placed my dick between her two inner lips and began to massage her. But tonight, I think we both got carried away a little and after 7 or 8 minutes of massaging her labia minora, I lowered the glide path of my dick and pulled back. When I moved close in again my head was just inside her vagina. I looked at her to see if she was ok with what I was about to do. She smiled at me with her eyes half closed and pulled me close into her embrace. I glided all the way into her warm pussy in one smooth movement. The sex was better than the previous night. Tonight I could really feel her and there was an intimacy between us that was pretty remarkable. I did not last very long.
Afterwards we cuddled and held each other tight for a long time. Then we took a leisurely shower together. Back in bed I told Na this was my last night in Pattaya and I would like her to spend the night. She said she wanted to stay. We watched part of a ridiculous James Franco and Danny McBride movie called, "Your Highness" that made us laugh and we played around some more. I fell asleep with Na sprawled on top of me and then later I woke up while it was still dark outside with a hard on. I moved over onto my side still holding Na. She woke up and we started kissing lightly. I then took her from the side and then later got on top for the finale. We both fell asleep after this session.
I awoke for good around 9 am. Na was still out. I turned on the TV to watch some news and she woke up. After looking around a bit and getting her compass straight, Na started to look like she was going to go back to sleep or something, so I reminded her that I had to leave soon. She got up and went to the bathroom. I joined her in the shower and we played around some more and made out. Then we both got dressed. I put 4000 bt in her purse. I was hungry and I asked her if she wanted to have some breakfast with me. She said yes and we took a motorcycle taxi to the Loaf. This time I experimented with an almond croissant, double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Na had coffee and a banana pancakes. After breakfast we said goodbye. Na looked a little sad. I told her I really liked her and we would text each other while I was in America. She said she liked me too and I should not forget her. I put her on a motorcycle taxi and waived as she was driven off. Na was a real sweetie. I won't forget her or her warm smile.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624991]Day 34 Tuesday April 1, 2014 Pattaya Day 3.
[/QUOTE]Loved your reports man! Great to hear about your good times.
Thank you so much for sharing!
Jack of Spades.
Two more fantastic TRs Natty. Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1624991]Then I went back to Jack's Watch Shop to pick up my 2 Patek Phillipe fake watches. But there was a mix up with the order. I had specifically wanted two large watches, one with the black face and one with the white face. They had two large white faces waiting for me. Since I was planning to give one of the watches to my father anyway, I accepted the incorrect order and agreed to take both white face models. Mr. Jack made a final check and calibration on the watches. The first watch passed the calibration tests and was performing well. Then Mr. Jack discovered that the 2nd white watch was not performing well in either the horizontal or vertical positions and he detected that it was losing an unacceptable 15 seconds per month. Mr. Jack said that this 2nd watch was no good and he would return it and get a new watch for me. So he told to come back to the shop at 9:30 pm and they would have a black face Patek Phillipe waiting for me. I appreciated Mr. Jack's integrity and the quality control checks he performs on his merchandise. He is clearly an honest forthright businessman. He gives a full one year warranties on all his watches and said that if mine ever break down after the warranty was up he would fix them at a modest cost. I told Mr. Jack's shop assistant to hold my white face and I would return at 9:30 to pick up both of my watches.[/QUOTE]Don't know how much you paid for the fake watches but they will not last long and the shine will go away. If you want, I have a genuine all gold, inside and out including the strap Phillipe Patek watch now worth USD $100,000. 00. There are no batteries in the watch. It has to be hand wound.
[QUOTE=Gus69;1625108]Two more fantastic TRs Natty. Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.[/QUOTE]Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.
[QUOTE=Gus69;1625108]Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1625118]Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.[/QUOTE]I like Mr. Jack. He is a good guy and stands behind his products.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1625117]Don't know how much you paid for the fake watches but they will not last long and the shine will go away. If you want, I have a genuine all gold, inside and out including the strap Phillipe Patek watch now worth USD $100,000. 00. There are no batteries in the watch. It has to be hand wound.[/QUOTE]I paid 2500 bt for each replica. All Phillipe Patek watches are hand wound as far as I know. My fake Patek is a self wound watch as well. It is a quality replica made in Taiwan. I am not comparing these watches to a genuine Phillipe Patek other than in a superficial casual way. They would not fool a watch expert for 5 minutes although they could fool me and most of my friends under the right circumstances. I showed my two fakes to a watch dealer in the USA. He said they were quality fakes and added that he thought I paid a very good price for them.
A genuine Phillipe Patek is a work of art. My father gave me his genuine Philippe Patek for my 30th birthday. He paid $6500 for it in 1970 when he was in Geneva. I recently showed my Patek to a Sotheby watch expert and he said it was worth at least $25000 in today's market if I were to put it up for auction, which I will not do for sentimental reasons. The fakes are just for fun. I bought my two watches from Mr. Jack in April and they are still ticking so so far I think I got a good deal ie they are good quality inexpensive working watches.
BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1625294]I like Mr. Jack. He is a good guy and stands behind his products.
[/QUOTE]But sure with a name like Jack he cannot possibly be a bad guy!
I will definitely be paying him a visit on my next trip. Thanks for the info and the recommendation.
Jack of Spades.
Do you have any experience / comments about taking a flight from Pattaya to Koh Samui?
I would like to try night live there combined with nice beaches besides mongering. Is it worth or it's better to stay in Pattaya only? I'm looking for other destinations that the triangle Bangkok. Pattaya – Phuket offering some sightseeing between sex sessions. Isaan might be a destination for example, but what to do there except of fucking? Would you have any idea?
I have about 3 weeks to spend in Thailand and I'm looking for an itinerary. I'm looking for sightseeing and mongering, as I can't fuck 3 weeks without a break. I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me. I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored. Therefore I thought about doing some overnights trips around. Is Koh Samet or Koh Chang worth to go? I mean for sure there are nice beaches, but is there as well some action as well? Or maybe an idea would be to go to Cambodia for example? Could Sihanoukville be a nice (and safe) destination?
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1625294]BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]I have only worn my Phillipe Patek watch a handful of times. Only on special occasions because of what it is and what it is worth. Everything hand made and gold. No way do I take it to mongering destinations. I just wear a Raymond Weil watch for everyday purposes. Enjoy your watches.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1625294]I paid 2500 bt for each replica. All Phillipe Patek watches are hand wound as far as I know. My fake Patek is a self wound watch as well. It is a quality replica made in Taiwan. I am not comparing these watches to a genuine Phillipe Patek other than in a superficial casual way. They would not fool a watch expert for 5 minutes although they could fool me and most of my friends under the right circumstances. I showed my two fakes to a watch dealer in the USA. He said they were quality fakes and added that he thought I paid a very good price for them.
A genuine Phillipe Patek is a work of art. My father gave me his genuine Philippe Patek for my 30th birthday. He paid $6500 for it in 1970 when he was in Geneva. I recently showed my Patek to a Sotheby watch expert and he said it was worth at least $25000 in today's market if I were to put it up for auction, which I will not do for sentimental reasons. The fakes are just for fun. I bought my two watches from Mr. Jack in April and they are still ticking so so far I think I got a good deal ie they are good quality inexpensive working watches.
BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1625532]I have only worn my Phillipe Patek watch a handful of times. Only on special occasions because of what it is and what it is worth. Everything hand made and gold. No way do I take it to mongering destinations. I just wear a Raymond Weil watch for everyday purposes. Enjoy your watches.[/QUOTE]The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.
Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. Will be in Bangkok in about 6 weeks. Looking forward to more adventures. Hoping to set up another group activity. The more the merrier! Also going to spend some time in HK and Macau.
[QUOTE=Otari;1625432]I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me.[/QUOTE]If you cannot find anythng to do in Bangkok, then it will be difficult to entertain you anywhere else. Have you tried Kanchanaburi (of "Bridge over the River Kwai"-fame) yet?
[QUOTE=Otari;1625432] I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored.[/QUOTE]Many things to see and do in Pattaya, besides the obvious mongering sites: Sanctuary of Truth, Waterpark, Floating Market, Nong Nooch Gardens, Ripley's Believe It or Not, ...
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1625599]If you cannot find anythng to do in Bangkok, then it will be difficult to entertain you anywhere else. Have you tried Kanchanaburi (of "Bridge over the River Kwai"-fame) yet?
[/QUOTE]Thank you for advice Wolvenvacht.
In Bangkok there are plenty of things to do, I love this city, but I like to move around and see new things. I'm living in a big city and spending my holidays in a big city as well isn't a perfect option for me. However big cities may imply good mongering while in small cities / rural areas there is usual no action. I'm looking for a balance between those 2 things. Would it be Koh Samui an option?
Is in Kanchanaburi any action or you it's nice for seeing the famous bridge or other 'classical' tourist attractions?
[QUOTE=Otari;1625432]I have about 3 weeks to spend in Thailand and I'm looking for an itinerary. I'm looking for sightseeing and mongering, as I can't fuck 3 weeks without a break. I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me. I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored. Therefore I thought about doing some overnights trips around. Is Koh Samet or Koh Chang worth to go? I mean for sure there are nice beaches, but is there as well some action as well? Or maybe an idea would be to go to Cambodia for example? Could Sihanoukville be a nice (and safe) destination?[/QUOTE]Sihanoukville has some nice beaches but it's quite a small town and other than that there's not much to see. And beside that it takes a long time to get from Bangkok or Pattaya to Sihanoukville. It took me something like 12 hours back in 2007. If you want to go to Sihanoukville then get there from Phnom Penh, it's much easier.
I think Phnom Penh is a better destination for you if you decide to go to Cambodia (which I can highly recommend; very nice people and beautiful ladies). Many things to see there, like the Royal Palace, the Killing Fields and the Tuol Sleng Museum (S21).
[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1625558]The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.
Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. [/QUOTE]Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.
While I am not a huge fan of Thailand, there is a point made below. Generally, I prefer a friends with benefits relationship and have that with several women. However, I still meet the occasional Asian woman for my own selfish needs. While I do not speak Thai, I do speak some Mandarin and Vietnamese. Even in the US, when I meet a Chinese woman who is here working, as soon as I say just a few words in Mandarin (Putonghua), they reach so friendly and start asking me how I know Mandarin. I explain I worked in Singapore for a while and what is probably a boring session for some typical American, goes to a near GFE with a Chinese provider here in the US.
Thus, I can see that if you show interest in a Thai woman and ask about more than just her sexual acts, you will build a connection. I just wish I could speak Korean as there are so many KAMP establishments in the US I would probably have a much better time. But frankly, women, even if working, enjoy attention and a man who shows interest in what they enjoy and who they are. Nearly all the "freebie" (FWB) arrangements I have are with Chinese women because I speak a little Mandarin. That earns respect which goes much deeper than looks or money.
So, good points. Treat the women with respect, but use caution.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1622614]Why, yes. Yes, I can enjoy staying with a total stranger.
After a day, they're no longer a stranger. Of course you have to make a bit of an effort, but it almost always pays off. I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, the number of dud long-times I've had, both in BKK and PTY.
The key is to show interest in the things THEY like. So, you discuss their family. You eat what she eats. Hang out at some Thai clubs. I draw the line at Thai soap operas, but taking in a Thai movie (with English subtitles) can be rewarding. You can learn a lot about the country and the culture from some of the girls. Yes, some of it may be a bit of low-class culture, but it's all good. You would be surprised at how interesting some (certainly not all) of the girls can be, once you get past the language barrier.
One caveat is you need somebody a bit on the older side. I don't care what country you're in, an 18 year old girl is a blithering idiot. But late 20's. Early 30's can make excellent rent-a-companions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1625620]
....The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies....
Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.[/QUOTE]Ignorance is Bliss!
Clearly, a Patek Phillipe watch is not for everybody.
[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1625558]The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.
Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. Will be in Bangkok in about 6 weeks. Looking forward to more adventures. Hoping to set up another group activity. The more the merrier! Also going to spend some time in HK and Macau.[/QUOTE]Of course you are right, Paul. Patek Phillipe is the name of the watch company. I noticed your absence from the forum. I assumed you had had enough of it and were calling it quits. If my dyslexic error had any influence on bringing you back, then I am glad. 555.
I envy you, your upcoming trip. Sadly, I will not be back in pussy heaven until late February. In addition to BKK, I think you are going to like Macau. The Saunas have fabulous girls and there are great dining opportunities all over the city, but I warn you, Macau is really expensive. Bring your credit card and have a great time!
[QUOTE=Otari;1625419]Do you have any experience / comments about taking a flight from Pattaya to Koh Samui?
I would like to try night live there combined with nice beaches besides mongering. Is it worth or it's better to stay in Pattaya only? I'm looking for other destinations that the triangle Bangkok. Pattaya Phuket offering some sightseeing between sex sessions. Isaan might be a destination for example, but what to do there except of fucking? Would you have any idea?[/QUOTE]Amazing place koh samui you will have fun there, less commercial then the famous places in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1625620]Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.[/QUOTE]Your welcome Daddy. By the way, I was not being condescending. My experience is most people believe the company's name is Phillipe Patek, thinking Phillipe is the founder's first name. A former girlfriend set me straight years ago after she got tired of listening to me say the company's name wrong and watching her blue-blooded friends smile as I betrayed my plebeian background. Her friends were being condescending. I thought they were smiling and nodding with approval as I told them I had a hard time justifying spending tens of thousands of dollars on a "Phillipe Patek" watch.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1625692]I assumed you had had enough of it and were calling it quits.
In addition to BKK, I think you are going to like Macau. The Saunas have fabulous girls and there are great dining opportunities all over the city, but I warn you, Macau is really expensive. Bring your credit card and have a great time![/QUOTE]I've been reading the forum; and started a few posts only to realize I had nothing to say worth posting. You're many posts, individually and especially collectively, are among the best I have read in a very long time. I really like the way you explain how you spend your time in Bangkok. You make it very clear there are many fun things to do besides chasing skirts and having sex. A newcomer to the forum curious about mongering in Bangkok would get many ideas on where to go and how to spend his time. My primary interest in HK is just to see the city. As is the case with many cities I've visited, I know the airport, a couple of nearby hotels and little else. I've read your posts and others on the Macau forum and found them very valuable. I am looking forward to the Saunas and have budgeted accordingly.
[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1625746] By the way, I was not being condescending. My experience is most people believe the company's name is Phillipe Patek, thinking Phillipe is the founder's first name. A former girlfriend set me straight years ago after she got tired of listening to me say the company's name wrong and watching her blue-blooded friends smile as I betrayed my plebeian background. Her friends were being condescending. I thought they were smiling and nodding with approval as I told them I had a hard time justifying spending tens of thousands of dollars on a "Phillipe Patek" watch.[/QUOTE]We do not care for your girlfriend nor a condensing history lesson. What happens in your private life should not be brought over to here. No need to be condensing to us just because your girlfriend's friends were. People familiar with Patek watches know what one is talking about how ever the name is said. It probably matters more to those who do not have a Patek watch. I wear the watch for my own choice, not to show to people that I am wearing a Patek watch. "Hey everybody, look, I am wearing a Patek Phillipe watch" That's not me. I could care less.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1625779]We do not care for your girlfriend nor a condensing history lesson. What happens in your private life should not be brought over to here. No need to be condensing to us just because your girlfriend's friends were. People familiar with Patek watches know what one is talking about how ever the name is said. It probably matters more to those who do not have a Patek watch. I wear the watch for my own choice, not to show to people that I am wearing a Patek watch. "Hey everybody, look, I am wearing a Patek Phillipe watch" That's not me. I could care less.[/QUOTE]I don't care for my ex-girlfriend either. I thought a condensing explanation would be better than an expansive explanation. As for her friends' condensing remarks, they were being condescending, not condensing, though I often felt like condensing a few of their noses. The watch stuff was just the silly opening to a post that was meant to thank my friend Natty for writing some great reports. By the way I wear a Citizens that I bought cheap because it was a factory second. Some of the paint is missing from the dial, which I proudly point out to my friends along with the dirt cheap price I paid for it.
[QUOTE=Otari;1625612]Thank you for advice Wolvenvacht.
In Bangkok there are plenty of things to do, I love this city, but I like to move around and see new things. I'm living in a big city and spending my holidays in a big city as well isn't a perfect option for me. However big cities may imply good mongering while in small cities / rural areas there is usual no action. I'm looking for a balance between those 2 things. Would it be Koh Samui an option?
Is in Kanchanaburi any action or you it's nice for seeing the famous bridge or other 'classical' tourist attractions?[/QUOTE]I was in Kanchanaburi a few years ago and saw one bar where some single ladies were sitting outside. I *think* they were bargirls but I did not enquire further as they were not very attractive. I went to a massage parlour but I was not offered any happy ending. It was a very good massage though.
I m sure there will be more mongering opportunities, but probably more geared toward the local people as Kanchanaburi is mainly visited by tourists on a day trip out of Bangkok.
As military history is a hobby of mine, I took one day of visiting all the war-musea and cemetaries in town (the museum next to the central war cemetary is the best). The next day I chartered a taxi and went to visit Hell Fire Pass and its museum and I walked a part of the Death Railway.
If you want to make sure not to sleep alone in Kanchanaburi, I suggest you bring your own companion.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1625821]I was in Kanchanaburi a few years ago and saw one bar where some single ladies were sitting outside. I *think* they were bargirls but I did not enquire further as they were not very attractive. I went to a massage parlour but I was not offered any happy ending. It was a very good massage though.
I m sure there will be more mongering opportunities, but probably more geared toward the local people as Kanchanaburi is mainly visited by tourists on a day trip out of Bangkok.
As military history is a hobby of mine, I took one day of visiting all the war-musea and cemetaries in town (the museum next to the central war cemetary is the best). The next day I chartered a taxi and went to visit Hell Fire Pass and its museum and I walked a part of the Death Railway.
If you want to make sure not to sleep alone in Kanchanaburi, I suggest you bring your own companion.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Wolvenvacht is seems to be a perfect day trip from Bangkok to recover from intensive mongering.
[QUOTE=SeriousSam;1625713]Amazing place koh samui you will have fun there, less commercial then the famous places in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sam for advice. Where is better to stay for good action in Chaweng or Lamai beach? I heard about Green Mango club on Chaweng beach, is it the best place in Koh Samui?
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1625616]Sihanoukville has some nice beaches but it's quite a small town and other than that there's not much to see. And beside that it takes a long time to get from Bangkok or Pattaya to Sihanoukville. It took me something like 12 hours back in 2007. If you want to go to Sihanoukville then get there from Phnom Penh, it's much easier.
I think Phnom Penh is a better destination for you if you decide to go to Cambodia (which I can highly recommend; very nice people and beautiful ladies). Many things to see there, like the Royal Palace, the Killing Fields and the Tuol Sleng Museum (S21).[/QUOTE]Thanks Mogwai for info. I thought to do a trip for a couple of days while being in Pattaya. I enjoy being on the way and don't mind travelling with local buses. I've been in Phnom Penh and it is really an interesting city with nice mongering possibilities.
Is there nice action in Sihanoukville or maybe in some places on the way there from Pattaya, for example Koh Chang (Thailand) or Koh Kong (Cambodia)? If there are nice beaches only, it is may be not worth going there. And last but not least, I'm a little bit afraid about the security in Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Otari;1625869]Is there nice action in Sihanoukville or maybe in some places on the way there from Pattaya, for example Koh Chang (Thailand) or Koh Kong (Cambodia)? If there are nice beaches only, it is may be not worth going there. And last but not least, I'm a little bit afraid about the security in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]I never had any fear in Cambodia. Sihanoukville has action at the beaches, Victory Hill and also downtown. I like this small peaceful town where you have a big dinner for about USD $4. 00. Read the Cambodia section for more info. Take the 14 person van from PP to Sihanoukville. Takes about 4 hours and about USD $10.00.
First time in Pattaya.
Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?
Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1625931]I never had any fear in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Me neither. In some (older) field reports people said that 'Cambodia is not for the faint hearted' but to be honest I've never understood that. And I'm not a very impressive guy, LOL! Just take the usual precautions as you do anywhere else.
The only time when I felt a little bit uneasy was when a normal looking young guy (early 20's I think and dressed in jeans and t-shirt) bent over in the bus right next to me to get his stuff and I saw a gun in his waistband. But that would have scared me in any country.
First time in Pattaya.
Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?
Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Bigtw;1625996]First time in Pattaya.
Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?
Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Strange. I was there end of August and I only remember them having 2 price brackets. Models for 22000 and regulars for 1800.
Are you sure you were at Honey 2? Maybe you were at Honey 1, which is closer to WS? I haven't been there personally so I don't know the pricing.
If its true its not good news.
sorry it has taken so long to get this out. i've just been busy as hell getting back to work after a long summer. natty bumpo's wonderful reports have inspire me to finally get off my ass and finish this, my last installment of the may 2014 trip report.
just a reminder: when we left off i had just scored a gfe with a gorgeous young lady i had met in i-bar (see pic). she was the hottest girl of the trip and just a tremendous shag to boot, letting me cim after a vigorous and lengthy session that lasted well into the early morning.
i woke up a few hours later with with a raging hard on. the girl lying next to me was one of the most gorgeous creatures i have ever had in my bed. i steal peeks of her perfect body under the covers and start to stroke her body. but she was still tired and having none of it and drift off to sleep myself.
man thesegirls can sleep!
she woke up a bit later to go to the fridge to get a drink of water. i admired her luscious naked body as she stood by the fridge stark naked, downing the water straight out of the bottle sexy stuff! . i beckoned her back to the bed and we began to kiss. i ran my hands all over that gorgeous body. i couldn't wait to get insider her again. i slipped on a condom and she applied some lube and i slid right into her tight little pussy. she wasn't into it as much as the night before, but i was having too good a time for it to slow me down. we ran through the gamut of positions and i especially enjoyed taking her from behind as i watched her ample boobs jiggling back and forth in the mirror. then she lied down on her tummy giving me an especially good angle to enjoy her supple and toned ass. i finally came, as before, wanking myself off as she licked my balls. the sight of her pretty little tongue flicking in and out of her mouth was just too much and i soon blew my load. this time i jizzed all over her tits instead of her mouth. i didn't want her to run off to the bathroom right away and i wanted to enjoy a nice post coital cuddle with this comely creature.
we cuddled and kissed for a while longer, but soon she had to get up to go. we both took turns taking showers. i continued to molest her as she got dressed. she acted all bothered but i could tell she liked the attention. she is very proud that she is #2 on some kind of i-bar facebook contest for prettiest girl and i promise i will vote for her though i haven't been able to ever find the site. do you guys know what she was talking about.
we held hands as we go downstairs to get her i'd. its been a definite gfe with this girl and i hope to see her again. i kiss her goodbye and she sped away on her motorbike her blonde hair blowing in the breeze.
utterly satisfied i began to plan my day. it was around 3 pm at this point. i had arranged for vew (see pic) from devil's den to come by for an out call at 7.
i spent the next couple of hours packing (i had a flight early next morning), running off to pattaya to get some spices and do some last minute shopping, and cleaning up the place. incidentally i bought a ton of spices to take back with me to cook thai food: dried lemongrass, kafir leaves, galangal, chiles and various curry pastes. i made a great tom yum goong and also tom kah gai for some friends the other night. they absolutely raved about it. having these spices is key and they are really cheap!
i arranged for gaew to come over at 10 pm and to stay the night with me. she told me that she had started her period, but i didn't really care. i toyed with the idea of asking jiang, the new girl to come over, but i've really grown attached to gaew emotionally and i want to spend my last moments and pattaya with her in my arms even if we weren't going to screw. in any case, gaew gave some of the best bjs i have ever had. so i told her i wanted to see her. even if it was "just for hug". lol.
i heard a knock just before 7 and i was surprised to find vew at the door. i wasn't expecting her so early and i was a embarrassed that i was still in my underwear having just taken a shower. she didn't really look like the girl in the picture in the site (see pic below) at first and i had to ask her if she was vew. though she was cute, in person she was definitely a notch down from the pic. if i'd rate the pic a solid 8 i'd only give vew a 7 or so in person. she was a little more worn looking and had a bit too much junk in her trunk for my tastes. admittedly her face was pretty and her boobs were nice and perky.
i offered her a drink but the lady was all business and wanted to get started. i mixed one for myslef and got her a water as she took a shower. she had a big bag of toys with her: assorted dildos, straps, and the like. but that kind of thing really does not do it for me though maybe i should have used a big dildo on her in retrospect. she asked me how many times i wanted to come "1, 2, 10?" which i though was amusing. i laughed and told her one or two would be enough as i've had a lot of sex these past days.
she began with a bj. she had good technique, but vew used some kind of antiseptic gel in her mouth when giving bjs which made me barely feel anything. what's more she really seemed to hate the taste of it and would periodically take a break to spit the stuff out into her towel. this was kind of a turn off, though i still i enjoyed watching her pretty little head bob up an down in my lap. i think i would have been more into it if she had shown more enthusiasm. but i was determined to get my money's worth. eventually i began getting into it. her pussy was surprisingly tight and felt really good, despite all the lube she applied. i ran her through all the positions. i especially enjoyed the look on vew's face as she tossed her head back in (probably fake) pleasure. from this angle she was absolutely beautiful.
after about a half an hour of pumping i came in her in mish and we rested a bit. we cuddled but she was not all that keen on kissing on the mouth (even though her online profile said this was a service she provided) . nevertheless, having her body next to me soon got me ready for round two. she seemed a bit more into it as i think she was warming up to me a little bit. we repeated the same positions, though this time i held back from coming, as i wanted to save something for my date with gaew later in the evening.
overall the sex did not live up to the pse that dd prides itself on. i was getting much better sex form my fl pickups. on the other hand, it was a pleasant experience and very convenient not having to go out and find a girl not know what kind of service to expect from her when you found her. i guess this is the value dd provides: it's a brand that guarantees consistent and reliable quality. but in this respect it is more like mcdonald's than dom perignon.
nevertheless, if i had the opportunity to call right now as i write this and order a girl to my apartment for a similar experience in moscow for twice the price i would do it in a heartbeat. however, i think there are much better options to be had in pattaya.
vew left and i gave her a kiss goodbye. i think she may be more passionate with me in a repeat session. but she still is a little bit of a cold fish. there are just so many other enticing girls in pattaya. why bother!
i had about an hour to kill before gaew was set to arrive so i showered, made the bed, and got rid of all the used condoms lying around. i finished up these chores just as gaew arrived. i went downstairs to meet her. she looked absolutely adorable in her girlish top and short shirts. despite being 27 and having a kid she still looks like a fresh little teenybopper. she gave me a big kiss and hug and i could tell she was very happy to see me.
we took a nice long walk along dongtang beach, hand in hand and chit chatted. she told me about her life back home in the provinces. how she grew up with out a tv and they only had a radio. "did you at least have internet?" i asked her faux incredulously and we laughed. i think growing up under these circumstances has made her a very centered and realistic person. i just loved her attitude about life and how appreciative she is about the good things she experiences. it made me take stock of my own circumstances and how lucky i am to be living the life i live.
from the beach we walked up to the beer bar complex in jomtien by the big market and found a good bar with a great live band. this was my last night with her and i wanted to leave her with some good memories. i kept buying shots (tequila for me, b52's for her) and we had a great time chatting, laughing, kissing, and singing along to the band. the band played one thai reggae song that was especially catchy and which i knew i'd heard before, with a very familiar "doo-doo-doo thom-tam" chorus. gaew taught me the words and we had fun singing to each other. the band also got into it and played the song a couple more times for us during the evening.
it was after midnight and we were both pretty tipsy, so we got up to leave. i had a car coming to take me to the airport at 5 am, and we wanted to get some alone time together before we left. i tipped the band 100 baht and they waied appreciatively. i asked if gaew was hungry and we stopped to some beef noodle soup at the kiss seafood nearby. tasty and only 50 baht! it also sobered us up a bit.
we were both pretty tired when we got home so we took off our clothes an went straight to bed, gaew keeping her panties on because of her period. as we got cozy we started making out passionately and tenderly, knowing that these would be our last moments together. on her own initiative gaew moved down between my legs and stared giving me marvelous blow job. soft, wet and very deep, nbut nto too much suction. over the last 2 weeks this sweet little girl had really figured out how i liked it. i let my hand wander over her tits and ass. what a relaxing way to tend the day.
she kept at it for quite some time, probably a half hour or more. i was surprised how long she could keep at it with this intensity. she was determined to make me cum. but the tequila and all the cumming from earlier in the day were holding me back. still, i was enjoying it immensely, touched at how hard my little sweetheart was trying to make me happy.
i finally lifted her up to me and told her i would not cum this time. she seemed a little disappointed but i told her it was ok and that i just enjoyed being with her. this made her happy and she drifted off to sleep in my arms.
at this point i only had a couple of hours before the taxi was set to arrive and i did not want to fall asleep. so i got up and took a shower and got my stuff ready as gaew slept. i got back in the bed and cuddled with her a bit, watching her sleep. i was happy to have this little angel in my bed, but sad that my moments in pattaya were slipping away fast. i was really gong to miss pattya and this little gem in particular.
finally it was 5 am and time to get up. my sweet little gaew got up and got dressed without any complaints, despite the lack of sleep. i gave her the usual 2 k baht an additional us 100 bill note as a little present and she hugged me appreciatively. i know you guys may excoriate me for ruining the market, but i had developed a close relationship with this girl and i wanted to do something nice for her. in any case she had earned every penny and more with the kindness and affection she had showed me during the trip.
we sent down to the lobby and i said goodbye to my bell boy buddies. they had taken good care of me during the trip and i gave them each a 100 baht note for their troubles. the taxi was waiting and we piled in, the driver agreeing to drop gaew off at her apartment before taking me to the airport. it was an emotional ride, gaew was in tears as we hugged and held hands. she made me promise not to forget her and that i would see her when i came back. i told her that i would be back by january at the latest, and this seemed to cheer her up a bit. i think both of us were comforted when i talked about all the things we'd do when i came back.
we dropped her off somewhere in central pattaya and we shared one last tender good bye kiss. my last image: her sadly waving goodbye to me as we sped off to the airport.
i was very sad to leave. it has been such a great trip. i had a variety of great experiences with very sexy girls, including some memorable gfes. i met a very special and sexy little girl that i had connected with on an emotional level as well and shared some genuine intimacies with. we are still in touch and chat about once a week on line. i have no illusions about making her my real gf. but an arrangement like natty be's with his ms. m could be a good template for me to follow with this gaew.
and i had barely scratched the surface! getting sick had really slowed me down and forced me to take some nights off. and staying in jomtien had also worked against me exploring daytime / early afternoon options and fully taking advantage of the tasty snacks available on br. i plan to rectify all of these shortcomings when i go back in january. i'll stock up on the vitamin see and airborne for the plane and rent something much closer to the center next time i am in town (maybe vt6?
pattaya is sill alive and kicking. to paraphrase mark twain, naysaying rumors about pattaya's demise are greatly exaggerated.
stay horny my friends.
uncle v.
photos: jiang, vew (from dd website), and a not very revealing one of gaew to protect her anonymity.
Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?
Great stories from UV who said, "CIM after a vigorous and lengthy session that lasted well into the early morning. Ample boobs jiggling back and forth in the mirror. Licked my balls. Jizzed all over her tits. Definite GFE with this girl". Thanks for the pics, too. She's gorgeous!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1626126]Strange. I was there end of August and I only remember them having 2 price brackets. Models for 22000 and regulars for 1800.
Are you sure you were at Honey 2? Maybe you were at Honey 1, which is closer to WS? I haven't been there personally so I don't know the pricing.
If its true its not good news.[/QUOTE]Yup, it was Honey 2, between Soi 2 and Soi 3 on 2nd Rd (close to Pattaya North). Maybe they adjust the prices for the swarm of Chinese on a week long holiday from China. Definitely not Honey 1 closer to LK Metro.
[QUOTE=Ej2208;1626152]Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?[/QUOTE]While strolling down WS last night, Lucifer was certainly open.
[QUOTE=DaddySan;1625686]
Clearly, a Patek Phillipe watch is not for everybody.[/QUOTE]And for sure not for the usual Pattaya visitor.
[QUOTE=Ej2208;1626152]Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?[/QUOTE]Yes, but nobody goes to Lucifer anymore and there are very few people in Flexx. Everybody goes to 808 now.
Hello,
Have any of you tried this massage, any feedback on this.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tantra-MassageAyur-Balance/635927343112628?ref=hl[/URL]
Valuable feedback on the would help!
Hello,
I have a plan to visit Pattaya and I would like to ask you about your experiences with the blowjob bars in this city.
Do you know if is possible to take some one girl from typical Blowjob Bar to your hotel room spend maybe 3-4 days together and receive in this time many blowjob sessions with CIM, COF etc. Or maybe these are only ST bars? Or maybe is better to take some freelance girl from the Beach Road for the same cum fun?
What kind of experiences do you have?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1622546]I would have looked for a freelance and just given 10000 for the two weeks. And 10000 will most definitely cover her basic bills for the entire month. You are taking her on a vacation and feeding her everyday. [/QUOTE]Picked up a pretty one (FL, 32 yrs, almost 170 cm) from Red Car on Thursday. Staying with me all the time, 1000 BHT / day, plus a small present once in a while, like shoes or hot pants.
Plus: She seems to be rather "fresh", as no painted finger nails, standard clothes, no tattoos, and too shy, walking naked in the room. Does not suggest expensive restaurants.
Top was a barbecue "All you can Eat" for 200 BHT / person.
Minus: "Skills" need some training Only very limited English language.
UncleV,
You are a hell of a guy, and a wonderful person. A thai girl would say," you gooood maaan!
I have drooled over each of your reports, I am terrible at Frs.
Hats off to you. I shall be a week long millionaire in my paradise, pattaya in Nov., and only hope to experience at least 25% of your escapades!!
I have a girl, Ing, very much like your friend Gaew, and we share simillar moments together. So I relate so much to what you felt. Hence this post.
Pattaya and Gaew waits for you and we for your reports.
NM.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1626130]Sorry it has taken so long to get this out. I've just been busy as hell getting back to work after a long summer. Natty Bumpo's wonderful reports have inspire me to finally get off my ass and finish this, my last installment of the May 2014 trip report.
Finally it was 5 Am and time to get up. My sweet little Gaew got up and got dressed without any complaints, despite the lack of sleep. I gave her the usual 2 K Baht an additional US 100 bill note as a little present and she hugged me appreciatively. I know you guys may excoriate me for ruining the market, but I had developed a close relationship with this girl and I wanted to do something nice for her. In any case she had earned every penny and more with the kindness and affection she had showed me during the trip.
We sent down to the lobby and I said goodbye to my bell boy buddies. They had taken good care of me during the trip and I gave them each a 100 Baht note for their troubles. The taxi was waiting and we piled in, the driver agreeing to drop Gaew off at her apartment before taking me to the airport. It was an emotional ride, Gaew was in tears as we hugged and held hands. She made me promise not to forget her and that I would see her when I came back. I told her that I would be back by January at the latest, and this seemed to cheer her up a bit. I think both of us were comforted when I talked about all the things we'd do when I came back.
We dropped her off somewhere in central Pattaya and we shared one last tender good bye kiss. My last image: her sadly waving goodbye to me as we sped off to the airport.
I was very sad to leave. It has been such a great trip. I had a variety of great experiences with very sexy girls, including some memorable GFEs. I met a very special and sexy little girl that I had connected with on an emotional level as well and shared some genuine intimacies with. We are still in touch and chat about once a week on LINE. I have no illusions about making her my real GF. But an arrangement like Natty be's with his Ms. M could be a good template for me to follow with this Gaew.
And I had barely scratched the surface! Getting sick had really slowed me down and forced me to take some nights off. And staying in Jomtien had also worked against me exploring daytime / early afternoon options and fully taking advantage of the tasty snacks available on BR. I plan to rectify all of these shortcomings when I go back in January. I'll stock up on the Vitamin see and Airborne for the plane and rent something much closer to the center next time I am in town (maybe VT6?
Pattaya is sill alive and kicking. To paraphrase Mark Twain, naysaying rumors about Pattaya's demise are greatly exaggerated.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
Photos: Jiang, Vew (from DD website), and a not very revealing one of Gaew to protect her anonymity.[/QUOTE]
Sunday, 28 September
I feel embarassed in admitting it, but day 2 was a complete bust. Not the best start to the next few days in Pattaya. I would attribute the fault largely to myself (can't help it).
We took a cab from soi 7 in Bangkok to Ekkamai and it was raining heavily in Bangkok at the time. Took a 1:30 pm bus to Pattaya and I think it rained most of the way, I had taken some cold medication and was knocked out for the 2 hour bus journey.
We checked into Inn House on soi 13, close to Walking Street and quickly set out to find some grub. I did have a helpful list of places as suggested by Bunky, but did not get around to finding those places yet. We stopped at Oz Burger near LK Metro and had a hamburger which was prepared well, I will definitely visit this place again.
I was hoping to catch a clean massage at Eden near LK Metro, but it turns out some of my countrymen had spoiled the place for us. In my last visit, we went to Eden every day for 3 days and now they refused to service us. I was annoyed. Walked over to Panaan down the street and got a bone crushing Sports massage. I am guessing a sports massage is typically supposed to be for those that play and work out and therefore a very intense massage, I was in a lot of pain after the massage LOL (Note to self: start working out).
Since Panaan did not focus that much on the feet and walking all around soi Buakhow had made my feet sore, I foot massage was in order. We stopped at Aree Massage on 2nd Road, near Tim Boutique and got foot massages, I also got an extremely painful pedicure, I asked for it, I guess.
Not realising that we were wasting precious hours on getting clean massages we finally managed to set out on the hunt at around 11 pm. I am not sure whether it is that late to find a girl for the night, but we made a stop at soi 6 first. Since I had fond memories from You Twat Bar, I went in and had a couple of drinks with the owner who seemed to recognize me. Even one of the girls recognized me but the girl I had bar fined last time was not to be seen. So BIB were at the premises and we quickly left. Since soi 6 wasn't presenting any worthwhile LT opportunities, we moved onto Walking Street.
Now I was shocked to find the number of Indians on WS, and most of them I am pretty sure were not being allowed into the Go-Gos. We tried Sweethearts A-GoGo first, I had visited this place on my earlier visit, I hadn't bar fined a girl at the time but never had a problem in entry here. This time around however I was asked to pay for a drink at the entry. I informed them that I did not quite have a problem in paying for the drink up front but it is a silly rule to implement. I was told that Indian men come in and do not buy drinks. I wonder how much of it is true, so much had changed in the 2 months that I was away or may be it was just seasonal. More one moves onto high season the chances are that several Go-Gos become much stricter because it is their season to make the real money. In any case, we paid for the drink and were welcomed in. Another strange thing that happened, the girl Dao who approached me last time also did the same this time around. I immediately recognized her, she of course did not recognize me. She was shocked when I remembered her name. So earlier it was never the case that a pre-condition for a lady to come and introduce herself would be that I needed to purchase a drink. I would eventually have bought her and her friend a drink, but I didn't like being schooled on these matters when I had visited this a-GoGo before. Now this place does not have any lookers as such and most girls are on the heavy side, so in order to bar fine one would need to be very drunk. A compromise needed to be made. Since all this entry and LD hassle was leaving a bad taste in the mouth, we check binned and left. It's not likely that I will return to Sweethearts again.
We walked up and down WS for a while, and found one or two pretty (non LB) FL SWs, my friend approached one of them and was quoted 2 K LT. He said he will come back. The girl had vanished in 10 minutes, she was very pretty to have not been snagged. We then moved onto Crazy House, a somewhat new a-GoGo on WS, I had seen it from the outside on my last visit. Since it was after 1 am, the entry norms had got more relaxed and we were welcomed in. The place is small and rectangular, as far as I could tell. Girls were in two gears, 2 piece bikinis and black short tops and short skirts. The girls dressed in black were clearly agency girls (or coyotes), their bar fines were 1 K (even post 1 am) and the girls in the bikinis had a bar fine of 700. The coyotes although did not have great racks, they had amazing figures, each better than the next. I got very friendly with a girl in bangs and braces, and she seemed very enthusiastic giving me a couple of lap dances. When I finally enquired about price, turns out she would do ST for 2,500 and BF was 1,000. An expensive proposition, no reason not to pay it because I had paid the same amount in Bangkok the previous night. But it was just my instinct (perhaps couple with a cheap charlie sense whilst in Pattaya) that I told her I will come back later. Also, I wasn't being allowed to feel up her nether regions in the bar, after a couple of LD's drinks I would think that's fair game, after my last terrible experience at Airport, I just wanted to be sure.
We checked into Angelswitch after that, it is in a sub-soi off WS and the place was empty. They have 5-6 heavy and elderly ladies dancing on stage. We thought that since we had entered, it was only fair to buy a drink and then make an exit. After a drink where the girls tried really hard to get us to bar fine, we just could not. So after another failed attempt at hunting at the Go-Gos, we left. Walked up on Beach Road, saw just one girl who I liked but she wasn't interested, I finally decided to call it a night. On the positive side, I got 8 hours of sleep. It was a terrible start at Pattaya, I know that I will hit back with a vengeance. So I did. It will feature in the next day's report.
No pictures to post since no action I saw. But on a side note, if you are loaded and want to see some pretty coyotes, I would recommend Crazy House. Of course, I cannot confirm their service quality in bed. I am yet to make such an expensive financial decision in Pattaya.
AO, hopefully your 1000th report will relate more success!
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1626818]No pictures to post since no action I saw. But on a side note, if you are loaded and want to see some pretty coyotes, I would recommend Crazy House. Of course, I cannot confirm their service quality in bed. I am yet to make such an expensive financial decision in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I have long ago finished with Thailand and their overpriced non service. In Hong Kong I have all the time on my hand and can score cheaper without the need of airfare and hotel. Patience is the better currency for me getting older.
Monday, 29 September
Feeling very down from the previous days events where I went dry in the land of smiles, the clock was ticking and it was time to make it count. Desperation was taking hold and the morning wood was burning through the sheets. I knew if I kept in my zen mode of mongering it was unlikely that Pattaya would become more fun.
I snapped out of it, woke up after doing a little quick office work checking up on e-mails, my friend and I went over to Robin's Nest for an American breakfast and as always, it was good. It was a particularly sunny morning and I am not one who requires tanning. I wanted to avoid the sun, but sometimes when an urge takes ahold of me, I cannot shake it off. With a full belly, we did a quick survey of a couple of hotels near the Buakhow / LK Metro area for the next few days. My friend was feeling like using the pool at the hotel and basically wanted to get away from the sun, I had a different agenda.
[B]Shot 1[/B]
I intended to head down soi Honey, on the previous day we had briefly walked down this infamous lane but were just browsing. The best way to find this lane probably is to look out for Fantasy Lounge (on Buakhow) and the tall LBs hanging out from it. I walked from LK Metro to Soi Honey and made a quick survey down the road. Around 1 pm, the talent on offer was not particularly pleasing to the eye. I spotted one particularly attractive girl Ning at PP Massage. She was striking because every thing else was too poor in comparison. I took off my shades to see properly and to ensure that last night's desperation wasn't manifesting itself in a poor choice. I am pleased to say I was in control and the choice was extremely good. I picked her and went upstairs. As most are aware, the massage rooms or wooden partitions at these joints are hardly anything like a massage parlor and more like a short format Soi 6.
I had a quick superficial shower to satisfy the lady and she got down to massaging me. The massage honestly wasn't good and after flipping back onto my back I made it clear to her with my boner that it was time for boom boom. Today BJs would elude me to a large extent. She asked what I wanted, although she seemed to have been working at the place for sometime (at least more than a few months) she pretended to be shy. I immediately said boom boom and nothing else will do. After negotiating price at THB 200 for massage and THB 700 for boom boom we were at it. The room we were in had two partitions and while I initially entered there was no one in the next partition and I was glad that a few awkward sounds would not raise any eyebrows. But I as soon as it was time for boom boom someone else was in the partition next door. So I would have to be quiet and the girl was so used to it by now I wonder if she ever makes a sound while screwing.
The session was satisfying for only one reason, she was pretty and had the right curves, small B cups and perfect skin. The service was nothing to go on about, it was a conventional screw, with 3 position changes. I came fairly quick.
I tipped her THB 100 to make it an even THB 1,000. The thing that I was trying to communicate with her was that I wanted to take her back to my hotel room for round 2 where she could let loose and have some fun in the process. My efforts at communicating this failed and the guy in the next room was now getting into extras mode. I took a quick shower and left. Told Ning before leaving that I will likely come back again, she seemed pleased.
[B]Shot 2[/B]
After shot 1 was out of the way, I had a broad grin plastered over my face as I made my way back to the hotel. The climate had improved considerably, but still far from ideal. Did a little bit of work, posted the last days' report which I managed to bang out quicker than anticipated, I felt the need for a massage. The hotel has Narraya massage downstairs so I used the intercom service and called for a girl to be sent to my room. The massage was good, the lady was Nancy, short red hair with bangs and amazing tits. She was very chatty and she genuinely appeared interested in my country, so I briefed her on the essentials. Apparently she had seen some video on youtube regarding a recent incident at a zoo where a tiger mauled a young guy who fell into the cage. Well not the best way to begin a conversation. Anyways I had fun, made the usual overtures that I won't mind some relief, I was informed that only HJ was on offer and apparently client paid THB 700 for it. I LOLed and told her its fine and I do not take HJs and she understood that why would a guy pay for it (although some of her clients do).
After the massage, I took a shower and set out again on the prowl. This time I walked through soi Chaiayapoon twice and on my return I spoke with Pipe Layer a fellow ISG member we made plans to catch up later in the week. Since soi Chaiyapoon did not have anything very attractive and the best that they had on offer was a LB, I walked onward to Soi Honey. I was pleasantly surprised, the talent on offer at Paradise massage was impressive. I mean quite a few of the girls would not be out of place at the smaller aGo-Gos, because what passes off a show girls at Go Gos these days in Pattaya is pretty shocking. I have tried to narrate a few of the shocks I experienced in my previous reports. Wonder who makes the selection of these girls, I have never seen so many heavy and elderly women in such less clothing, like ever.
So I immediately picked the first cutie I saw, and sorry I cannot remember her name. I think it started with a P. I was in a different zone. I just pointed and asked the girl to follow me in. The MMS goes like you need to pay an inclusive THB 1000 for boom boom. I said whatever, threw a thousand her way and off we went upstairs. The negative was that the girl had a slight sag to her breasts, she was just 20. But all natural and reasonably sized not the little lemons on some of the Go-Go girls. The figure and her general appearance were pleasing to me, since I have a type, this wasn't a bad option at all for the price I was paying. Some might say I am paying too low a price and at that price quality is rarely if ever to be found. I think it was a great deal and I would do it over every day in Pattaya.
So she asked me to disrobe, saw that I wasn't making any movement. She says you want no massage, I just smile and tell her boom-boom only. Will think about the massage after. She undressed and this girl had a pretty smile. She wasn't the talkative types and the rooms at Paradise are broken into 4 or more partitions so more attentive ears. I didn't let that faze me now. I gave her clit some stimulation to get her in the mood, but she required some lube in the beginning to take me in cowgirl. She rode me well and I took her in quite a few positions that were possible in that narrow screw room of the massage house. It was a great screw and she made all the right sounds for me to cum. Another THB 1,000 well spent, I tipped her THB 200.
[B]Shot 3[/B]
After the quick screw, I was ravenously hungry so I walked back to LK Metro and took a beer and sat at Oz Burger. Had a cheeseburger which was amazing. I was, in the meanwhile, in touch with a gentleman from another forum and we were to meet up later in the evening at LK Metro area. I thought a foot massage after 2 pops and a meal wasn't a bad idea. So I went to this massage shop down the road next to PapaGayo, a Go-Go of some sort. The elderly lady used a eucalyptus balm which seemed to take the pain right out of my feet and it was worth the THB 200 and a tip of THB 100.
I had begun to snore twice during the massage woke up with a start and apologised. They were all laughs and told me that I should not feel embarrassed. I decided it was time to chug on a Red Bull because 2 pops had sapped all the energy out of me and the constant walking around was not helping in any way. The effects of Red Bull are apparent in that sleep eludes me at this time. It is 3 am and I am sitting awake in the balcony smoking and banging out another report.
We were initially to meet up with our new friend at the Office a go-go but by the time I managed to get back to LK, they had moved onto Crystal a-Go-Go. I was expecting to not be allowed entry, it did happen, when I mentioned that I had friends waiting inside the owner / manager who appeared to be sitting outside said it was OK. So I went in and met some new friends and boy I was glad that I did. We had a great time having with drinks, I bought a round for us all and the friends one of whom had just bar fined a very cute girl, I would have bar fined her any day of the week but she probably won't have gone with me, the other friend was sitting with a waitress from another Go-Go who was hanging out with him on her day off. It was great fun sharing few war stories and enjoying the evening. We moved proceedings back to Soi 6 where I was shown around, while I have been Soi 6 several times, there were things there that I had not yet experienced. In any case, after a couple of rounds of playing pool with the girls and I had successfully managed to not drink much, alternating each shot I had with cola, finally one girl managed to convince me that she could get me up for round 3. I wanted to give her the opportunity. I am happy that I did for THB 300 for the room and THB 700 to the girl (a tip of THB 200 afterwards), I got some good ass play. I was missing the A levels on this trip and now finally I had managed it. So all in all a very satisfying day. I am mildly surprised that I was able to manufacture so much protein but it was manufacturing in arrears.
Hoping to try out some newer and seedier joints tomorrow, let's see what tomorrow brings. Till then goodnight and although my reports appear to be the same old, I hope they remain entertaining.
The attached pic is of P from Paradise massage (the lighting inside massage parlors is not ideal for taking quality pictures), I wasn't able to snag a pic of Ning and the girl from Soi 6, well she had me sweating and panting so bad and my friends were further up on Beach Road I forgot to ask her for a picture. I might post it later when I head down the 6 again. A few general pictures as well, the quality may not be great.
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1626741]UncleV,
You are a hell of a guy, and a wonderful person. A thai girl would say," you gooood maaan!
I have drooled over each of your reports, I am terrible at Frs.
Hats off to you. I shall be a week long millionaire in my paradise, pattaya in Nov., and only hope to experience at least 25% of your escapades!!
I have a girl, Ing, very much like your friend Gaew, and we share simillar moments together. So I relate so much to what you felt. Hence this post.
Pattaya and Gaew waits for you and we for your reports.
NM.[/QUOTE]You are too king, Mr. Nu. I hope you enjoy your time with Ing and have the good fortune to take full advantage of all that Pattaya has to offer during your trip.
I hope you will find the time to post. It's fun to relive the memories as you write and even better to re read your own posts a few months or years later.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
[QUOTE=Tiger888;1626872]I have long ago finished with Thailand and their overpriced non service. In Hong Kong I have all the time on my hand and can score cheaper without the need of airfare and hotel. Patience is the better currency for me getting older.[/QUOTE]I would agree partly, I am presently enjoying a love-hate relationship with Pattaya, but may be that's what the hobby is about.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1626869]AO, hopefully your 1000th report will relate more success![/QUOTE]I do hope the 1000th was a worthy report! Your encouragement is much appreciated.
Tuesday, 30th September.
Woke up at 11 am and the events of the previous day were running through my mind while I sorted out plans for the day. Till now a lot of what I had been upto in Pattaya was unplanned and we picked things up depending on what the group was feeling. Since I had last been to PP massage I had at the back of my mind the desire to take Ning again even though she was a starfish in bed. I mean she did keep her eyes closed while in missionary, I would still think it ranks right up there with a lousy session. But she was pretty. So after I had a quick brunch somewhere, I set off towards soi Honey again and did the stretch once and gave Ning a smile and told her I will return shortly. On my return I saw that she wasn't sitting outside the shop, I was like where did she disappear in 5 minutes, so I went in and asked the cashier for her. Thinking that she had snagged another client, I was all but ready to move onwards to Paradise massage. Just then she made an appearance from the restroom. Lucky me, like other girls in the shops who dress up in a more formal and inviting attire this one had worn street clothes and very good ones. Short skirt and a cute orange top.
So we went upstairs and again I found the two partition room and wasn't quite happy with it. After the shower another customer came into the next stall. I wanted to be able to freely enjoy the session, so I asked her whether they had other rooms and for an extra 300 baht I could get a VIP. The VIP room was hardly any better but was big enough to have a proper romp. She had a quick wash and I told her no massage today only boom boom. Why waste precious daylight hours. I pried apart her legs and she had a little Bush, not very common in girls who service so many johns a day. I went down on her, and I did find some measure of success, she got very excited with DATY and I was able to slide one finger up her ass and momentarily finger fucked her pussy and ass. She genuinely seemed to enjoy it. I was hard as a rock by now, since I had not been getting girls back for LT, the morning wood was always the best.
I soon mounted her and after several position changes after it appeared that she had cum at least once and I wasn't able to get her to make the session more fun, I came and wrapped things up. I had done the same girl twice, but not again.
Following the daily routine I got foot massages and a facial scrub at various place up and down LK Metro, after I returned to the hotel, my buddy informed me that we would be meeting up with a few board members and heading to Pattaya Tai. After a quick shower, we met at the hotel lobby and the three of us took moto taxis to Telephone Bar. Right from the beginning this place appeared to me to be something I would like. The entrance to this unit is simply s telephone box, you ring the bell, a girl will open the telephone box door and draw aside the curtains and let you enter one of the seediest places I have seen in Pattaya. It was great, the girls were all around the bar and in various forms of nudity. We took up seats near the entrance and we were soon joined by 3 ladies, each had a girl wrapped around us in 5 minutes. The way this place works is simple, you can either get a BJ in the open bar on move onto the more secluded area in the back, with a curtain shutting out the proceedings. I had already had boom boom and was the last to go in with my girl. The girl in question was Nee from Udon Thani and after making out with me in the bar she promised to go slow in the back room and she assured successful cuming. I like to see confidence like that in a girl.
Since several patrons had taken up most places, we had to head upstairs where there were two big couches. Nee set up a towel on the couch for me to sit down and I was told that I could have a BJ for 500 or boom boom for 700. In addition to a lady drink for 300. I chose a BJ since I felt like a lazy lout and wanted the girl to make th effort. In the meanwhile another cute girl turned up her name was Noo and both the girls appeared to me to be a good team. So I sealed the deal and told both of them to take of whatever remaining clothes they were wearing and go down on the junk. The way the girls alternated was professional and they both had good BJ skills, undoubtedly. I was allowed to go through all of their erogenous zones, and even A levels were possible. The tag team match went on for a while and the girls were taking it personally that they could not make me cum and I assured them that it wasn't their fault, I may have had several orgasms, but the finality of cumming was eluding me. Even a oily hand job wasn't doing the trick. Finally I had to tell the girls to stop, I could feel friction burns and we had been at it for the longest time. The girls washed me up and they made it very clear that if I chose to return some other day for boom boom I would be granted complete access. I can't wait to get back to this place. It is quite out of the normal hot spots in Pattaya, but I don't mind making the trip. I could see when I came down that all other patrons had left, only the two buddies I came in with were sitting and had angry looks on their faces because I was taking so long. During the exit, all of the girls come near the entrance and thank you for your patronage. What a great touch. Photography is not allowed in the place, I asked the girls 3 times.
In the euphoric state that we left, none of us focused on the map and ended up on a baht bus heading to Jomtien instead of North Pattaya. We realised our mistake too late and were 10 kms away when we did. So we back tracked and walked 2 kms on the highway before we found one Moto taxi guy who fetched a couple of others and we were transported back to LK Metro for 150 baht each (robbery indeed).
Met up with PipeLayer99 (PL99), who was walking down the street with a beer in one hand and it was a lot of fun meeting up. This is to thank him for taking care of our evening entertainment, a lot of what we saw and did and learnt would not have been possible but for his sharp mind pointing out and correcting all the newbie mistakes we seemed to be making. We hit the go-gos in the LK metro area first and went into Paradise a-go go, this place has a nice interior and a couple of bar fine girls and here I learnt that always get value for your lady drink. Don't just let a lady convince you to get her a drink and walk away because another customer had bar fined her. She lost her tip on her drink for pulling this stunt and we left the place.
The boys wanted to see some hands on action so we headed to windmill agogo on walking street and it was ok. Nothing too crazy and after Telephone Bar, I was just enjoying multiple rounds of jack and coke with PL 99. The girls at windmill look very young and at least a couple of girls were being eaten out by naughty old men on the stage. I was being encouraged to go taste some pussy as well since I do enjoy it, but a communal DATY session just gave me the creeps.
After half an hour or so, we moved onto Red Car. I would ideally not have had the chance to see the place, but PL99 wanted me to see all those places where I would not normally be allowed in. Lots of freelancers around, the music was good but not that many customers. We had a couple of rounds here and then moved onto I-bar which is another fantastic club. We bought a bottle of Jack at I-bar because there were so many people in there and going to and from the bar was proving to be hassle. PL99 being the "hansome" man in the group immediately got a hot FL wrapped around his finger. We moved to their table which had two FLs. My girl for the moment was not being as forthcoming and I was advised to scout for alternatives. I was sapped out in any case and was struck by a cute cashier I had met earlier. I asked her out and got the cutest smile in return and before she could answer a fat waitress came over asked that girl to get back to her work. So it's little things like these that make it worth the while to set out on the hunt and although we ended up partying it 4. 30 am, I didn't feel the urge to pick a FL.
Let's see what today has on offer. It was a great night out on the town. A big thank you once again to PL99 for being the perfect host.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1626993]Monday, 29 September
Feeling very down from the previous days events where I went dry in the land of smiles, the clock was ticking and it was time to make it count. Desperation was taking hold and the morning wood was burning through the sheets. I knew if I kept in my zen mode of mongering it was unlikely that Pattaya would become more fun.
I snapped out of it, woke up after doing a little quick office work checking up on e-mails, my friend and I went over to Robin's Nest for an American breakfast and as always, it was good. It was a particularly sunny morning and I am not one who requires tanning. I wanted to avoid the sun, but sometimes when an urge takes ahold of me, I cannot shake it off. With a full belly, we did a quick survey of a couple of hotels near the Buakhow / LK Metro area for the next few days. My friend was feeling like using the pool at the hotel and basically wanted to get away from the sun, I had a different agenda.
[B]Shot 1[/B]
I intended to head down soi Honey, on the previous day we had briefly walked down this infamous lane but were just browsing. The best way to find this lane probably is to look out for Fantasy Lounge (on Buakhow) and the tall LBs hanging out from it. I walked from LK Metro to soi Honey and made a quick survey down the road. Around 1 pm, the talent on offer was not particularly pleasing to the eye. I spotted one particularly attractive girl Ning at PP Massage...[/QUOTE]So you are having a bombastic time in LOS.
Fuck these Thai pussy hard.
[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1625931]I never had any fear in Cambodia. Sihanoukville has action at the beaches, Victory Hill and also downtown. I like this small peaceful town where you have a big dinner for about USD $4. 00. Read the Cambodia section for more info. Take the 14 person van from PP to Sihanoukville. Takes about 4 hours and about USD $10.00.[/QUOTE]Thanks LifeIsABeach for advice. It sounds good. What are the possibilities to go to Sihanoukville form Pattaya?
Action, it was great meeting with you and visiting all the places. I'm glad you had fun. I have a few more places to point out for you and your buddy. Plus I have another buddy arriving tomorrow. It will be more fun filled days ahead.
The free lance bar was crowded and happening last night. I ended up taking my girl back to my room. Originally I was not planning on grabbing one. Just figured I would go out for drinks. But when I saw this one walking by I thought she was very pretty. Her smile was amazing and I called her over. We clicked immediately. Her personality was super nice and she was fun to be around in the bar. Later on, when we got back to the room and it was a true GFE. Great lady. We had not discussed the donation the night before. This afternoon, while she was in the shower, I put some baht next to her purse. I usually give freelance girls 1000 (plus taxi money), but since she was so damn sweet and took such great care of me, I left her 1500. She just left it near her purse and came back to bed. She wanted to eat something but I was still tired. I told her she can go and come back. But she wanted to go together. Since I did not want to go, she decided to stay and rest with me (what a sweetheart). I offered her some banana cake and yogurt. So she ate a yogurt from the fridge. I told her I wanted to sleep more and she snuggled up in bed with me indicating she would stay. Soon after, I felt her tummy growl. I told her that if she was hungry, she should go eat. By that time it was about 3. 30 pm. She seemed happy and willing to return. She went to eat and wore my sandals. She came back later and took care of me again. I was exhausted and really wanted to get some rest. I told her I needed a night off and sent her on her way. She wanted to stay and asked if we will meet later tonight. I told her I will stay in tonight and I was too tired for anything else. I reminded her that I will be here for a long time and that I have her number for another day. Overall great experience.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1627729] Overall great experience.[/QUOTE]Bro, you rocked her world. A TG giving up on food for almost all of the day just to take care of your needs, man that's just awesome. 555 I do hope she hasn't completely drained the PIPE, we need to hit the town hard again.
Wednesday, 1st October.
A girl just left the room, and I have no power left in me. Another day well spent in sin city.
I woke up with a massive hangover today and it took me a long time to find my flip flops, and just to barely get out of bed. The only reason I had moved was because the reception called at 12 pm asking if I wanted to extend my stay. I said yes and then slept for another two hours. I like to think I am young, but partying up till 5 am with multiple rounds of drinks with friends is starting to take a toll on me. 555 With great effort, at 2 pm I finally decided that I need some food to break the hangover and I couldn't sleep in the entire day, after all sin city waits for no one.
The weather this morning was hot and humid and my feet were sore from all the walking (and part dancing) that I had been doing. Note to self: Get some good footwear which helps in navigating Pattaya instead of relying on the stuff which had me in bursting blisters. I could have done the same American / English breakfast routine but I was feeling that I had not had the chance of having any Thai food. So I walked down Soi Buakhow and landed up at an area where several food hawkers congregate in an open space and I have passed this place by a few times and I have always found them open. This morning they were open as well. I really hope that some of these food joints would put up signs / names of dishes in English, it really would help someone like me be more experimental. Because having an open spread of food is still OK, you can roll the dice, but you cannot order from a hawker who does not have such a spread because I for one do not know what the Thai preparations are called. So I grabbed a cappuccino from the first stall in this food market and then made my way through the various food joints, I was overwhelmed with the variety that was available but I still did not have the courage to try many places. I finally settled down at a place which had a big spread of around 20 preparations and after inquiring that they were not serving beef, only chicken and pork (I avoid pork as much as possible), I went with what looked like a safe chicken soup. It was great, I hardly touched the sticky rice. I enjoyed watching the sights, with several girls getting their food packed and the quantities that they got packed were not small, I felt that they could out do me in eating any day. Since I wasn't feeling particularly great with the alcohol yet to recede from the system, I walked away after the soup.
I went in for a 2 hour massage, 1 hour for the foot and 1 hour standard Thai massage. After all of this I was now ready to jump into the day. I had not gone to Soi Honey today and I decided that I should skip it. Because I get so tired after so many pops that I am not able to pick up a girl for LT, as all batteries are drained. Around 7 pm I get a call from PL99 and we chat, I even speak to the girl whom HE had picked up last night and she appeared to be giving my friend the time of his life, being around for more than 12 hours. A girl like that would not be out of place in any Go-Go, her proportions were next to perfect. I should stop drooling over my mate's girl now 555. PL99 wanted to sleep in as HE had had in excess of 4 rounds and even giants need to rest so that they can keep playing the game.
I was on holiday and would eventually make the most of my time but I felt no tearing rush. On the one hand I wanted to go and try something new, on the other hand I was still tempted by Telephone. While I was conflicted with this dilemma, I get a message on LINE from another buddy who was already at the telephone bar and asking me to join. I was ready to step out at a moment's notice and I moto taxied my way to Pattaya Thai. Today was a day to lose inhibitions. My buddy who was waiting at the bar and had two girls wrapped on either side order me a drink and a BJ. The moment I took a seat at the bar, I had the two girls from last night by my side and they were very happy to see me again. They were horny enough and told me that we should move upstairs as soon as possible to some ass drilling. My buddy however asked them to stay right where they are and asked me to chose a third girl. I chose a cutie who was sitting a couple of seats down and she immediately took her top off, while I had my two initial girls pulling up my t-shirt in the open bar and attacking my neck and chest, the third girl had already gone out pulled out my tool and went down on it. She had been advised not to make me cum. These girls really know how to play the game. I got a fantastic BJ right there in the bar with every girl looking and likewise my buddy was being polished off by a girl chosen by his favourite. Half the girls here appear to be bisexual and they have no problems in choosing the next target for you. After I got the hot and cold (with ice cube) BJ, I was feeling like I might cum and felt that I should have got some Kamagra in me before leaving, I was coasting on a low dosage of generic Cialis. I asked the girl to stop and I covered up my junk, but the three girls were still keeping me aroused. I had had a tequila shot upon entering and was just half way through my jack and coke and my two girls who were horny as hell had my fingers fill up their asses, so no point in continuing with a drink. Finally, when it became unbearable I took leave from my friend and went upstairs to a small room with just a bed and shower chamber. There was hardly space to stand. One of the girls wanted to close the glass door and pull the curtains, I just did not let her do it. I kept the door open and curtains wide apart, since I was loosing my inhibitions, what better way to become an exhibitionist. So both girls got down in doggie in front of me and I was asked to select the ass I wanted to pound first. We first tried it without oil or lube, with limited success. Then without me knowing one of the girls had slipped some oil into her ass and I slid in comfortably. When I withdrew I noticed it was oil and asked her to get lube. The condom had almost melted and oil is not a good substitute for lube, in fact it is something one should actively avoid. With lube I was now banging Nee who claimed that it was her first anal experience (I do not agree), she kept telling me to slow it down. But after the initial slow movement inside her and adjusting for maximum pleasure it was time to freely bang away. I banged that ass and she was moaning loudly. I had the other girl make out with the girl who I was banging. Then after a condom change the girls lathered each other up with lube and I entered Nu. She claimed to be an anal expert, yet she had a very tight ass. It was a great pleasure in opening it up. While I banged her ass, I asked her to eat out the pussy of Nee and she gladly did. These girls were extremely naughty and I was enjoying every moment of this tableaux.
After another couple of condom changes, when it appeared that we had run out of all condoms, I was tired and had almost reached my peak, I told Nee that I will cum in her mouth. She got right down to deep throat me and waiting for her daily protein dose. I obliged her with a massive pay load. I could hardly stand after this let alone walk down one flight of stairs. The girls held me so that I didn't fall and break my neck. I paid the girls THB 1,000 each (boom boom for pussy is THB 700) and lady drinks and my bin had racked up to THB 1600. Every cent was money well spent, I just could not regret spending money here, it was so much value. My buddy had gone into another room with a couple of girls and HE took his time. They had an interesting snack that they serve with the drinks called Pattay and I gobbled up an entire plate with gusto. Asked for another and I was just not able to sit straight on a bar stool so I told the girls that we need to move to the couch in the lobby. After the longest time my buddy emerges and HE hands me a sachet of Kamagra oral jelly to get ready for another round. I had half the sachet but I knew that I needed a little more time to recover. So check binned and left. Since I was now coasting on oral jelly, I knew that I had another pop left in me for the night, so we went to walking street where another buddy was watching a muay thai fight and we headed to Babydolls a-gogo, this is an interesting place not very different from Windmills a-gogo with the girls giving you value for your drink, they will make it a point to arouse you and not the other way around where you need to fondle until you get a boner. The hassle for lady drinks is a little on the high side and for spending an hour at this place I had run up a tab of THB 1,000, I am sure the other two guys had a larger tab. We walked down beach road and again tourist police seemed to be talking to a couple of SWs and we did notice some talent. One of the friends who was staying at the condos in VT6 separated and went home. We took a baht bus to Soi 6 to check out the talent. After my friend picked a girl who HE wanted to take dancing, although I enjoy it as well, I just did not have the energy for dancing and then boom-boom. It would have to be either boom-boom or dancing. So boom-boom won and I bar fined a girl and took her back to my hotel. We fucked till 2. 30 and I remember there was a champions league match I was also watching on tv and I drifted off to sleep. She needed to get back to her bar by 12 pm so she aroused my tool to attention at 11.30 am and we were at it again. I was unable to cum but I had had my fill of doing her. I handed her THB 2,000 and let her go. She tries to extract a promise out of me to come see her again at soi 6, but I gently tell her I might hit the 6 soon but I cannot make promises.
It was a great day in Pattaya and looking forward to another great day here.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1627838]I was coasting on a low dosage of generic Cialis.
. . .
HE hands me a sachet of Kamagra oral jelly to get ready for another round.[/QUOTE]It is your healh, but the combination of Cialis + Kamagra + lots of alcohol and lack of proper rest and food will put a huge strain on your body.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1627850]It is your healh, but the combination of Cialis + Kamagra + lots of alcohol and lack of proper rest and food will put a huge strain on your body.[/QUOTE]I can feel the negative effects as well. But I am in LOS just for a few more days, at which point I return home and hopefully can go back to a healthy lifestyle. I am just not able balance all of this out, thanks for the concern.
[QUOTE=Otari;1627716]What are the possibilities to go to Sihanoukville form Pattaya?[/QUOTE]1) Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.
2) From Pattaya, go to the airport. Fly into Phnom Penh. Then take transport to Sihanoukville. If you take Air Asia, you might be able to get the last bus on Sorya. Private taxi one way will be $55 or $60.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1627879]I can feel the negative effects as well. But I am in LOS just for a few more days, at which point I return home and hopefully can go back to a healthy lifestyle. I am just not able balance all of this out, thanks for the concern. :)[/QUOTE]Hey bud,
I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.
Happy mongering!
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1627911]Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much GreenBud. If in Koh Kong is good action than it seems that it would be a very nice trip combining sightseeing and mongering from Pattaya to Sihanoukville with stops in Ko Chang and Koh Kong.
[QUOTE=Vbbbb;1627997]Hey bud,
I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.
Happy mongering![/QUOTE]Yo!
Could you PM me the contact and her rates?
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=Vbbbb;1627997]Hey bud,
I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.
Happy mongering![/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion, will may be take the contact for the next trip. Cheers.
Thursday, 2nd October.
It is difficult to remember what I was up to during the previous day because the drinking has been clouding my thoughts. In any case, what I do remember is that I woke up and went for the usual breakfast to kill the hangover from last night. I had had one pop in the morning to take care of the morning wood from the soi 6 girl and was chilling out most of the day. I wasn't scouting for any boom-boom during the day and after the foot massage at the usual place, I took a nap for around 3 hours. It was brilliant. Evening time spoke to PipeLayer99 and HE had woken up around 8. 30 pm and we were to meet up later in the evening. I went around for a sumptous meal to Beefeater on soi Diana and it was slightly on the expensive side but the steak was very good. What began as a drizzle had turned into a heavy drizzle as the evening progressed. So we were grounded for a while. I was sitting outside Family Mart away from the rain and having one beer after the other. PL99 told me that he was eating dinner at the restaurant 100 mtrs away, so I made my way through the rain and met up with him. After the rain subsided for a bit, we hit one bar near the LK Metro where the music wasn't blaring and conversation was possible. Thereafter, since the plan for the evening was "up to me" I thought that a FL from a club should be the next target but there was no rush as such to find one. So we hit Red Car since smoking isn't allowed inside and that's what is preferred by PL99. Two or three attractive girls around, but the club was largely empty. While I grabbed a smoke outside, I saw close to 10 FLs leave the place for lack of punters approaching them. These FLs weren't the prettiest of the lot so it makes sense for them to try their luck elsewhere before it is too late in the day. After being a pussy about approaching some of the girls, I went and chatted with this very Japanese looking girl who seemed to be in the club with a guy. When I asked if it was OK to talk and the guy was being very friendly as well, she confirmed that the guy was her brother. She worked in a hospital and had a 16 hour shift the next day. I assumed this to mean that she wasn't a FL. I expressed interest in taking her out later in the night, she said that her mother would not approve. So we left it at that, thanked the group and left.
I-Bar was chock full of people as always. Now the weird part was that PL99 and me had done two laps of the entire establishment (not one attractive girl made eye contact), I tried approaching close to 3-4 girls and every girl I approached seemed to inter-locked in a weird dance with another girl (called girlfriend / sister). Some cases the "girlfriend" immediately crosses her arms and says that her friend is out of bounds. I was like WTF! This happened the entire evening. It was getting frustrating. After a while I gave up. I understand that the girls may not be interested in going with me, that's absolutely OK with me, I am not one to force the agenda, but let the FL say it herself, why does she need a thick girlfriend by her side to make her decisions. It just didn't make sense to me and I felt very far removed from the FL club pick up scene. I had lost all of my game, assuming in the first place that I had any. It was becoming dispiriting. We had polished off more than half the bottle of Jack we had bought the night before. The proceedings at I-Bar drew to a close at around 4. 30-5 am and we moved onto Insomnia which is one floor above. All of the FL's that were looking for punters below were also to be found in Insomnia above. I tried the same approach, although I was hesitant, and my lack of confidence I guess showed, it was a NO every single time. I gave up and around 6 am, I told PL99 who had got cozy with an old GF of his (GF in this context would be a girl he had picked up from the same place a few times in the past). When we were about to make a move, PL99 pushed a slightly drunk girl my way and we immediately started making out and dirty dancing. OK, that was abrupt and I would chalk that up to alcohol. Hardly any talk and we danced around for a while. PL99 was being the encouraging wingman and honestly I would have left the place 2 hours ago disappointed had it not been for him. So we picked up our respective girls and left the club at 7 am and had a bite to eat at the restaurant which is located on the way out (its a new addition). After the meal we parted ways and I took my FL (whose name I do not remember, I am generally not this terrible with details) to my room and she appeared to be much older than I am. Dammit! Also, she had managed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off PL99 at the food joint with annoying questions (which in turn pissed me off as well). But her tits were good and although she wanted to boom-boom after sleeping for a while. I had to get a pop off, I had not taken any pills this day and was simply experiencing a dry spell for more than 12 hours. We were at it, loose pussy, big turn off, she gave access to her ass and I took advantage. All in all, a forgettable experience, while I think FL providers who are elder to me sometimes provide a great fuck session, this one was just OK. I think the lady I picked up was probably 10 years elder than me, so I could not imagine doing her the second time. I packed her off at 1 pm, she works some bar on soi 8 apparently. Paid her THB 1,000 as negotiated.
[B]808:[/B] I had almost forgotten about this, but since I remembered and was able to edit the post here is my take. Now I had been to 808 a club on walking street when it was relatively new and I was with a Thai girl at the time so it appeared to be to be a good club with no entry hassles. PL99 and I thought to try this place out last night before we headed to iBar since I had told him I had found the place OK. A bit of background, both PL99 and I were dressed casually with flip flops, while I do know that most clubs in any city of the world are strict about footwear in a club, the rules get a little diluted in Pattaya. At first, PL99 and I were not allowed to enter because we had flip flops on, which is OK a reasonable ground for not allowing entry, but when we stood at the gate for a minute or so, we found a Russian dude wearing the exact same attire as us and flip flops was allowed in, PL99 asked the doorman what was up and why he was being allowed entry. To which the stupid door man suggests to PL99 that he can go in the way he is but I being the Indian bloke wearing flip flops cannot go in. PL99 was seething at this insult and I had reached a point where I wasn't fazed by all of this crap.
So its unfortunate but must be noted that 808 is not an Indian friendly club anymore. Farangs from other places can go in with flip flops but well dressed or casually dressed Indians will not be allowed in. I wonder if things might be different if you go in with a Thai girl or is there a risk of being humiliated in this way again. I am not going to bother trying it again in any case. They clearly do not like the colour of my money.
So after the most unfortunate incidents of last nights and the generally ill-fated outing we had on the town it was a new day. Since I had sent the auntie away after pop 1 and some sleep, I won't have anyone to take care of the morning wood. At this point, I think morning wood without protein was the best result I could hope for. It was a sluggish start to the day, I finally managed to get myself out of bed at 2:30 pm and quickly headed to the reception to extend my stay for the last day. After that since I really did not have the energy, I went across the road on soi 13 and into a pub called the Sportsman and got a cheeseburger and some coffee. I decided that after this hearty meal I could rest some more. No more of the massages, BJs or boom-booms during the day, all of that happens in the night and well into the morning here.
Next time I wake up its 5:30 pm and I saw that I had a missed call from PL99 who appeared to have woken up sometime back. We chatted and again I spoke to the girl HE had picked up last night. Man, the girls just don't want to leave him the next day. We planned to catch up as soon as HE managed to pack the girl off. I went out walking down soi Chaiyapoon, saw one or two girls I could pick, headed up 3rd Road and at the corner of Bliss Lounge considered going in. But what attracted my attention was the night market just across the road at HE intersection of soi 21 and 3rd Road. They had a couple of rows of stalls, two rows selling clothes and shoes and two rows dedicated to food. Even though I was tempted by several items of food that were on offer, I was happy with just an orange juice. I browsed through every stall and many of the food items seemed way too dangerous to be attempted. I wish I had the courage to try something out at least. I just wanted a BJ where I would not need to do much and could just be happy lying on my back. Now there are several places I could have gone to for a standard BJ I. E. Bars / shops specialising in it. I thought to try out a place which may or may not specialise in it. So I headed to soi honey and a slightly heavy girl with a very pretty face approached me to say Hi. I told her outside the shop that I was not looking for boom-boom or a massage and needed only a BJ. She seemed to understand and asked me come in. Once we went upstairs, she asked me again. I reiterated what I needed and told her to lose her clothes. What followed thereafter was a covered BJ, I didn't think to ask that upfront, my bad. Anyways, since the girl had opted for a CBJ, she would just have to blow me until I could blow and in a CBJ that could mean anything between 30 minutes to an hour depending on my frame of mind. She tried hard for the longest time, and I could see that her jaws had started to hurt, 555. I wasn't going to take pity on her so early in the game so I let her continue, took away her hand several times when she thought she could give me a handie cum BJ. After around 40 minutes or so, she wanted to get me off with a HJ and with great reluctance I agreed. She lathered up oil and made the best of what she could and after I while I just shot air (may be a drop or two of protein), unimpressed. I washed up, dressed, tipped and left. I checked my phone there were a couple of messages, PL99 was heading to LK Metro to eat and I told him that I was hungry and would join him since I was in the next street. My buddy was also asking where I was and I sent him my coordinates. We met up at this small british pub and I thought to try being adventorous here. I went in for their Thai menu, most falang owned establishments in Pattaya have a page offering some Thai food. This I assume is for the girls who might accompany the punters looking to eat before or after.
After food, PL99 asked us what we wanted to do on the last night in Pattaya, I didn't have a clue and was too tired to think. So we decided to make the journey to Walking Street from soi Buakhow to see some tits and ass at the Go-Gos. But before we got there we got another rousing welcome from girls outside a bar a little further up from Action Street. We immediately asked the baht bus to pull over and we went into this bar. This bar is farang owned and honestly out of all the bars I had been to had the best collection of girls dressed in red dresses. They had around 6-7 patrons already and around 6 girls not entertaining anyone. Three out of them were very pretty and they immediately came over. No hassle for lady drinks, and I liked that attitude so much that I bought my girl a drink. She was pretty and she informed me that her English was very weak and she used in work in a factory in a prior life and had moved to Pattaya a few weeks back. She was already drunk after 3 shots, the drink I offered was the 4th. I was very tempted to bar fine her because she was nice and friendly and was giving me a good time. But I also wanted to spend some time with the guys on the last night. So I promised her that I would return and we discussed this with the guys and the probability of anyone bar fining the girls from that little bar seemed to be very low. Her name was Lock.
At WS, we again seemed clueless as to which Go-Go to go into. I had had enough of the stupid Go-Gos in Pattaya and I didn't want to be hassled to buy 180 baht lady drinks for unattractive girls. We headed down soi Diamond and went into What's Up, I had read about this Go-Go at various places but never managed to find a sign for entry. Finally we did, it is ahead of Angelswitch and opposite Babydolls. This place was booming, while most Go-Gos on this sub-soi did not appear to have many patrons, What's up was filled to the capacity with girls and customers. The music was loud and the girls were actually dancing. The place had a good feel to it, I ordered a beer and we were given a seat next to a bath tub area where two ladies were soaping themselves and attracting punters to help them take a bath. I wasn't interested in bathing them, I was more worried about the soap suds not finding their way into my beer. After a beer, we got bored of the place it did have a lot of talent but I imagine the place was expensive (high bar fine) although thankfully we did not get hassled for lady drinks, so that's a positive. Back on WS, we were wondering where to hit next and then PL99 informs me that Mr. E will be reaching Pattaya shortly and will likely join us. So we headed into the first bar complex that you can spot on your way into WS and we walked in and found that although some of the girls were calling out to us to try their bar as soon as we approached and went around to ordering the drinks the girls disappeared. Not a good sign, we walked away from one bar after cancelling the order because of this. We landed up at another bar where we two were trying to play the game and two hotties at the bar were just too glued into their phones so we finished the drink quick and walked away. We walked in and out of another bar on the ground floor of 808 and it was just too damn loud. Finally, since none of us had seen Alcatraz we went in. The place hardly had 8 customers but the line up of girls on stage was OK. I wasn't looking from bar fine, after I read that the bar fine begins from 800 baht (I assume coyotes go for 1,200 baht). The other two guys bought drinks for one girl each and played around, I refused to buy drinks for two girls that approached because I did not like them. At this point, Mr. E reached Alcatraz and we met up with him. The four of us now decided to move to Mixx which is towards the end of WS near the pier. Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so. After scouting the talent and having one highly overpriced drink. Around 3:30 am I took a moto taxi to the bar on soi Buakhow to check if the girl I had liked earlier in the night was still available for take out. I was disappointed to hear that some customer had bar fined her, damn, I should have known that she was too pretty and too desperate to hang around for someone who may or may not return. Anyways, I decided to rush back to Mixx to catch up with the guys. There were a couple of drunk moto taxi guys around the corner and two ladies after I tried to explain to them where I need to get to, the moto taxi guys did not make a move and I was just about to walk ahead when a cute lady sitting with them offered to drop me to WS for 40 baht. I thought she was joking and asked her if she was sure, she nodded and I hopped on. On the ride she tells me she thinks I am cute, I was curious why she decided to drop a complete stranger off somewhere although she was clearly not a moto taxi rider. I asked her if she wanted to go dancing to Mixx with me, she says that may be another night and gave me her number and asked me to give her a call. Why do the strangest things happen on the last night?
I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, HE selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that HE did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great GFE provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :D
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1616715]I did some work, tidied up and went off to see Chris, my tailor at AMA tailoring. I can't recommend the place enough. They have done some great work for me over the last two trips. I had 3 shirts and two pants done this time. All of very high quality and fitting me perfectly. And for a a very reasonable 7800 baht. Truly a great deal.[/QUOTE]I just went up to AMA and it was not a good experience. I needed to get 4 vests made for a friend and decided to use him for the Guinea pig. There were two guys inside, neither of which were Chris the owner. The guy helping me was drunk. It was 11 am. He told me that it would be from 800-2000 baht for each vest. I had to get some blue fabric matched. He pulled out one pelt but it was not close enough. He gave up after that one telling me they didn't have anything else. I had to go around the store trying to match it myself until I finally found one close enough. I no longer wanted to deal with the guy so I asked him when Chris would be in. He told me that He is at the factory and has no set hours to be at the shop. He gave me Chris' cell number and I called but there was no answer. I left my number at the shop for him to call me whenever He is in. I asked the guy how much it would be with the fabric that I picked out and He said 1200. I told him that I would pay 1000. Whenever Chris comes and if I decide to go back to the shop then I will change that to 900.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1628559]At this point, Mr. E reached Alcatraz and we met up with him. The four of us now decided to move to Mixx which is towards the end of WS near the pier. Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so. After scouting the talent and having one highly overpriced drink. Around 3:30 am I took a moto taxi to the bar on soi Buakhow to check if the girl I had liked earlier in the night was still available for take out. I was disappointed to hear that some customer had bar fined her, damn, I should have known that she was too pretty and too desperate to hang around for someone who may or may not return. Anyways, I decided to rush back to Mixx to catch up with the guys. There were a couple of drunk moto taxi guys around the corner and two ladies after I tried to explain to them where I need to get to, the moto taxi guys did not make a move and I was just about to walk ahead when a cute lady sitting with them offered to drop me to WS for 40 baht. I thought she was joking and asked her if she was sure, she nodded and I hopped on. On the ride she tells me she thinks I am cute, I was curious why she decided to drop a complete stranger off somewhere although she was clearly not a moto taxi rider. I asked her if she wanted to go dancing to Mixx with me, she says that may be another night and gave me her number and asked me to give her a call. Why do the strangest things happen on the last night?
I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, He selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that He did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great GFE provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :D[/QUOTE]Man where do you get the time to write these reports so fast? PL99 had the best girl in the place but He was saying He did not have power. I would have taken her anyway just to sleep next to her. But He got her phone number so there is no rush for him. Last night my girl complained because I did not cum in her mouth so she could drink it. This morning I made it up to her when she woke me up with a BBBJ. She works in some shop in Naklua and had to be there by 1 pm.
If I were you I would have asked the girl on the motorbike where she was going and what did she do for work. You could have probably went with her for free. That was a golden opportunity. The more practice you get approaching chicks, the easier it becomes. One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.
Last month I was in 808 and noticed a chick with her friends keep looking at me so I kept staring back. After about an hour I motioned her over. After minimal small talk of asking her why she keeps looking at me I decided to tell her let's go. She said you want me to go with you? I said of course. She said she needed to go home and get clothes first. I told her that she sure did because I didn't want her leaving my place the next morning with club clothes on. She didn't have a bike so we took mine.
We got to her place and she told me to leave my bike on the street. We went to a padlocked gate which she opened and we started walking down an alley. I thought to myself, not one of these places again (thinking I was in for a low budget hood experience). We got to the back of the alley and walked up a set of stairs. She opened the door and told me to have a seat. There were 2 sofas and about a 50 inch TV. It looked to be a common room. It was sparkling clean. When we walked in she said I'm not like those other girls in the club. I said what do you mean? She said I don't go with men for money. I said okay. She kept asking if I wanted to know what she does. I told her no, not really. She asked me if I wanted to stay there instead of going back to my place. She said that she has never stayed out of her home. I didn't really want to stay. Besides, I remembered leaving the AC on in my room. There were two closed doors off the common room. I figured she must live there with someone else and those are the bedrooms. She said that the friends she was at the club with would be coming over bringing food. It was about 5 am.
She opened the bedroom and invited me in. There was a mattress on the floor with pillows and a folded blanket. There was a dresser and a plush chair and ottoman as well. There was also a large flat screen TV in that room. She turned on the air conditioner and I got comfortable. Finally her friends came over, but I stayed in the bedroom on my cell phone. She kept coming to ask if I wanted something to eat. I kept saying no, but she kept coming back. Finally I told her to go ahead and make me some noodles. I went into the kitchen to socialize. One of her friends was a gay guy who said his boyfriend lives in San Francisco. The other friend was a small, thin girl of 25 but looked 18. There was a nice big refrigerator in the kitchen. She asked me if I wanted chocolate then opened a drawer of the refrigerator which was filled with expensive chocolate. Daaaammmnnnn. She said when her friends come from the USA they always bring her gifts, hence the chocolate.
As I ate my noodles I noticed a stack of beach towels on one of the counters. I said you sure do like going to the beach don't you? She said that she rents out apartments and those are towels for them. She showed me the other room. It was her closet. Shit. Her closet was bigger than my entire room! Her friends finally left and she went to take a shower. When she finished she brought me a towel that resembled a big thick comfortable blanket and led me to the bathroom. She opened a new toothbrush and put toothpaste on it and left me to myself. Damn I could get used to this. I started a shower and noticed that her water on 1/4 heat is as hot as mine on full blast. I didn't want to leave out of the shower, but it was already daylight and I had some pussy to get.
I went back to the room and festivities started. I had a squirter on my hands! We fell off to sleep and I woke up in the early afternoon as hungry as a mf. I didn't want to wake her so I went off to the kitchen and acted like a kid in a candy store. I filled up off of chocolate. I noticed there was an enclosed outside patio. I went out and there was a washer and dryer. Even outside the floor was clean enough to eat off. I think I might be moving in with her. She finally woke up. I was supposed to meet a buddy in 10 minutes. She told me that she would let me out after she finished her coffee. As we walked downstairs she said the workers are not here yet. I didn't know what the hell she was talking about. She unlocked a big metal door and pulled it up. We entered a restaurant and bar and there was her motorbike inside. She opened the front of the restaurant and let me go out that way. Ding ding. I have a fucking winner!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1628574]Man where do you get the time to write these reports so fast? PL99 had the best girl in the place but He was saying He did not have power. I would have taken her anyway just to sleep next to her. But He got her phone number so there is no rush for him. Last night my girl complained because I did not cum in her mouth so she could drink it. This morning I made it up to her when she woke me up with a BBBJ. She works in some shop in Naklua and had to be there by 1 pm.
If I were you I would have asked the girl on the motorbike where she was going and what did she do for work. You could have probably went with her for free. That was a golden opportunity. The more practice you get approaching chicks, the easier it becomes. One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.[/QUOTE]555 I just need half an hour to bang out a report. Since I woke up and was not able to go back to sleep I thought that I must do the needful. After all, it was a great night out with you guys. I agree, PL99 always has the best girl in the house and as he likes to say "up to you" and depending on his mood either takes the girl or not. He will probably get the girl for free later in any case.
I did ask the girl where she was headed, I invited her to come dance with me at Mixx for a while and take things up from there. Alas, I wasn't as smooth as you, or as charming as PL99 to go in for the kill, I still got a lot to learn bro. It was something I wasn't expecting and I am glad that something like that happened on my last night in Pattaya to restore my confidence. 555.
Great report about the sponsored girl, she is definitely a keeper, she's got everything and much more to pass around :D
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1627911]1) Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.
2) From Pattaya, go to the airport. Fly into Phnom Penh. Then take transport to Sihanoukville. If you take Air Asia, you might be able to get the last bus on Sorya. Private taxi one way will be $55 or $60.[/QUOTE]You may have to leave quite early in the day to make sure you get through the border or have to stay in Trat for the night. Buses from the border to Snooky are sketchy at best. It might be better to fly to to PP and taxi onward to Snooky.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1628588]Last month I was in 808 and noticed a chick with her friends keep looking at me so I kept staring back. After about an hour I motioned her over. After minimal small talk of asking her why she keeps looking at me I decided to tell her let's go. She said you want me to go with you? I said of course. She said she needed to go home and get clothes first. I told her that she sure did because I didn't want her leaving my place the next morning with club clothes on. She didn't have a bike so we took mine.
We got to her place and she told me to leave my bike on the street. We went to a padlocked gate which she opened and we started walking down an alley. I thought to myself, not one of these places again (thinking I was in for a low budget hood experience). We got to the back of the alley and walked up a set of stairs. She opened the door and told me to have a seat. There were 2 sofas and about a 50 inch TV. It looked to be a common room. It was sparkling clean. When we walked in she said I'm not like those other girls in the club. I said what do you mean? She said I don't go with men for money. I said okay. She kept asking if I wanted to know what she does. I told her no, not really. She asked me if I wanted to stay there instead of going back to my place. She said that she has never stayed out of her home. I didn't really want to stay. Besides, I remembered leaving the AC on in my room...[/QUOTE]Super awesome, you are fucking winner man!
Hello, I must have some how missed this place from before. It sounds like a seedy establishment. LOL Can anyone tell me how to get there and what's on the menu?
Spaceman.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1628271]Thursday, 2nd October ..... snip
I-Bar was chock full of people as always. Now the weird part was that PL99 and me had done two laps of the entire establishment (not one attractive girl made eye contact), I tried approaching close to 3-4 girls and every girl I approached seemed to inter-locked in a weird dance with another girl (called girlfriend / sister). Some cases the "girlfriend" immediately crosses her arms and says that her friend is out of bounds. I was like WTF! This happened the entire evening. ..... snip
[B]808:[/B] I had almost forgotten about this, but since I remembered and was able to edit the post here is my take. Now I had been to 808 a club on walking street when it was relatively new and I was with a Thai girl at the time so it appeared to be to be a good club with no entry hassles. PL99 and I thought to try this place out last night before we headed to iBar since I had told him I had found the place OK. A bit of background, both PL99 and I were dressed casually with flip flops, while I do know that most clubs in any city of the world are strict about footwear in a club, the rules get a little diluted in Pattaya. At first, PL99 and I were not allowed to enter because we had flip flops on, which is OK a reasonable ground for not allowing entry, but when we stood at the gate for a minute or so, we found a Russian dude wearing the exact same attire as us and flip flops was allowed in, PL99 asked the doorman what was up and why he was being allowed entry. To which the stupid door man suggests to PL99 that he can go in the way he is but I being the Indian bloke wearing flip flops cannot go in. PL99 was seething at this insult and I had reached a point where I wasn't fazed by all of this crap.
So its unfortunate but must be noted that 808 is not an Indian friendly club anymore. Farangs from other places can go in with flip flops but well dressed or casually dressed Indians will not be allowed in. I wonder if things might be different if you go in with a Thai girl or is there a risk of being humiliated in this way again. I am not going to bother trying it again in any case. They clearly do not like the colour of my money.[/QUOTE]
First off, let me say that Action is a cool dude. Very easy going guy and he treats the ladies like a gentleman. It was good fun going to the bars, clubs, and restaurants together. Great wingman!
About the club girls: It's like that for everyone on occasion at the bars / clubs. Not every girl is going to be available (good thing there are hundreds more) smile. Yeah, some of them were 'stuck up', some probably have boyfriends (sending them money so maybe they didn't 'need' extra money that night), and a few others are just there for fun. But there are plenty more to choose from. And when the vibe is not good in one place, there are plenty of other places.
I also remember the one who needed her girlfriend's input. The ones who need their friend's input and / or approval are not worth your while IMO.
Regarding 808. Forget them. It's their loss. The club is small anyway.
You are cool in my book. It's unfortunate something like that happened. I congratulate you for your ability to let it roll off of your back and go have fun.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1628559] ..... snip
Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so......
I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, HE selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that HE did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :D[/QUOTE]Mixx was fun. Plenty of ladies to choose from. And it's open very late. Drinks are more expensive than other clubs. Its was about 180 baht for a drink or a beer. The girl Action took wasn't just an easy target. She was slim and pretty like HE prefers. That's why I pointed her out to him (and forced him to go talk to her on the dance floor). LMAO. At first I thought something was up when I saw her friend interjecting. So I quickly went out there to run interference and dance with the friend so Action could work his magic. But the friend was just translating, so we all just talked together. It was good all around. And now the last buddy was all set.
On this night I found a beauty who I called over to talk to me. I wasn't looking for company this night, just shopping. We had good conversation and lots of smiles. Then we danced right there next to the bar and man I was thinking I should take her. But I have been here for a over 4 months and I (well my balls) are running on fumes. So I had to have the night off. I took my girls number so I can meet her later. I don't want to have a one shot session with that beauty.
A little background, I had been trying to take a day off for the last 3 days. But I found a sweet Thai / Laos mixed lady 2 days before. Had 4 pops with her from 5 am to early evening the next day. I don't know how I managed that feat. The next day I hooked up with a girl whom I know already. So this night, I had to take a night off. Right?
My buddies were all hooked up. So I was happy to leave and go get some rest. I get back to my place about 5. 30 am and I have messages from a freebie. I have not seen her in a week. She wants to come over. I said OK. I'm so easy. I figured we could sleep and have fun the next afternoon (she doesn't start work until 5 pm). She shows up in 30 minutes with sandwiches for us and 2 large bottles of heinekin. What a sweet girl. I let her eat alone since I had already eaten. Afterwards she gets naked and gets in bed with me. I try to sleep but my hands keep fondling her nice round butt. So yep, you guessed it, we had a round of fun. So much for a day off. I slept until about 7. 30 pm. The funny thing about all of this is my buddies tell me I'm crazy for wanting a day off. To which I reply, try staying here for such a long time and then tell me.
To Action, it was great meeting up with you too. Look forward to your next visit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1628574] ..... One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.[/QUOTE]That was an off night. Funny how it played out. In the club, I thought I had the girl I wanted all set. After dancing with her and having fun I thought it was a done deal. But then she told me she was just out to have fun with her friend from Bangkok and the friend had to leave the next day. I said ok no problem. We can hang out here tonight and after the club we can drop your friend off so she can sleep and I can take you with me. No dice. I took her number for the next day. We played awhile longer, then she just up and walked away. Two days after she texted me. But I was busy with another lady. She actually tried to reach me a few more times. But since she blew me off in the club I was no longer interested.
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13;1628876]Hello, I must have some how missed this place from before. It sounds like a seedy establishment. LOL Can anyone tell me how to get there and what's on the menu?
Spaceman.[/QUOTE]Go down Pattaya Tai to soi 2, turn left. Then look on the right side of the street for a red phone box. Everything is on the menu.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1628916]
My buddies were all hooked up. So I was happy to leave and go get some rest. I get back to my place about 5. 30 am and I have messages from a freebie. I have not seen her in a week. She wants to come over. I said OK. I'm so easy. I figured we could sleep and have fun the next afternoon (she doesn't start work until 5 pm). She shows up in 30 minutes with sandwiches for us and 2 large bottles of heinekin. What a sweet girl. I let her eat alone since I had already eaten. Afterwards she gets naked and gets in bed with me. I try to sleep but my hands keep fondling her nice round butt. So yep, you guessed it, we had a round of fun. So much for a day off. I slept until about 7. 30 pm. The funny thing about all of this is my buddies tell me I'm crazy for wanting a day off. To which I reply, try staying here for such a long time and then tell me.
To Action, it was great meeting up with you too. Look forward to your next visit.[/QUOTE]LOL brother, you are the definition of Red Bull, even when you do not want to hook up, girls are getting in your way and wanting to be taken by yours truly. I had actually thought that when you were walking back home from Mixx that you will finally get the quite night that you wanted, but which sensible man has been able to deny a freebie, LOL. Man, it must be tough being the PipeLayer in Pattaya. (wink).
Until we meet again bro, great memories from this trip.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1628950]...great memories from this trip.[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed your posts, and will miss them. Appreciate your energy in putting them up in such a timely manner. Also, I like your narrative style. Easy to read and informative. I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1629158]I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?[/QUOTE]Well I am 42 and I won't say how old PL99 is. But keep in mind that it is a disco that plays today's hits. And it is not just about punters. Many normal tourists go there as well.
[URL]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmRd9Wud0ks[/URL]
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1629158]I really enjoyed your posts, and will miss them. Appreciate your energy in putting them up in such a timely manner. Also, I like your narrative style. Easy to read and informative. I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?[/QUOTE]Thanks, I agree with Mr. E, people from all age groups are welcome at Mixx. A younger crowd is to be found, but if you are there to pick out a FL, no matter what your age you will be entertained by the girls.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1629362]Thanks, I agree with Mr. E, people from all age groups are welcome at Mixx. A younger crowd is to be found, but if you are there to pick out a FL, no matter what your age you will be entertained by the girls.[/QUOTE]Also, just to add a nugget of information which I forgot to add in my report was that Mixx has a few homosexual men in the crowd as well, the reason I came to this conclusion was that I got hit on by one guy. I almost ran out of the club. But otherwise its a fine place to party.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1628563]I just went up to AMA and it was not a good experience. I needed to get 4 vests made for a friend and decided to use him for the Guinea pig. There were two guys inside, neither of which were Chris the owner. The guy helping me was drunk. It was 11 am. He told me that it would be from 800-2000 baht for each vest. I had to get some blue fabric matched. He pulled out one pelt but it was not close enough. He gave up after that one telling me they didn't have anything else. I had to go around the store trying to match it myself until I finally found one close enough. I no longer wanted to deal with the guy so I asked him when Chris would be in. He told me that He is at the factory and has no set hours to be at the shop. He gave me Chris' cell number and I called but there was no answer. I left my number at the shop for him to call me whenever He is in. I asked the guy how much it would be with the fabric that I picked out and He said 1200. I told him that I would pay 1000. Whenever Chris comes and if I decide to go back to the shop then I will change that to 900.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your crappy experience Mr. E.
I've always dealt with either Chris directly, or with Raja (short young Indian guy that really knows his stuff). And they've always been very professional.
I do always call ahead to make sure that either of them is there as I rely on their advice for fabrics, fitting, etc.
If you do see Chris tell him about your negative experience. HE tries to run a tight ship and I am sure HE would be appalled that one of his staff was drunk on the job and giving you such terrible service.
[QUOTE=Gus69;1625108]Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JackOfSpades;1625118]Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.[/QUOTE]Jack is actually in the third shop in from Pattaya Klang. There is a shop on the corner, then a watch shop, and Jack is the next shop after that. Yesterday I was in the second shop looking for a watch that a friend wants. A lady was helping me. As I walked out of the store I asked if the guy working on watches was Jack. She said no, Jack is in the shop next door.
So I arrived in Pattaya having met the BKK massage lady in Suvarnabhumi and was happy that I had bought her with me.
I have been on and off in Asia for over 30 years but here I was on my cherry trip to Pattaya. Not sure how it got omitted from previous travel plans but it did.
First impressions. Never have I seen so many overweight, chubby, beer bellied guys. Never have I seen so many guys happily parading around some old Thai ladies who presumably look after the old codgers. Everyone, self included was in the monger uniform of tshirt, shorts, slippers, all with the goatee beard thing. Only thing I didn't have that these guys have, is endless tattoos.
Lots of Indian restaurants, more so than Birmingham LOL. Even saw one Indian fella trying to negotiate the baht bus fare. They always try, those guys.
Occasionally there would be a cute girl in a bar or two but for me, didn't see that many. Much much better looking girls in BKK.
First night, my girl gets wet from rain in Walking street. (Sugar baby best bar there, with a good show in Angelwitch). She takes an aspirin and gets an eye allergy. She goes to Banglamoon hospital at 2 am and returns at 7 am with eyes as closed as a Chinamans. Fortunately she's back to normal within a day.
So I was glad I had company. And what a sexual tiger she was. She wanted breakfast lunch and dinner sex. She would give my groin a squeeze now and again as we walked around to see if I had " signal". Or was " low batt". She told me she hadn't had sex for two years, and was clearly making up for it. I was left knackered and was happy to sleep most nights after lots of sexual exercise.
18 coins on Soi Bukhao makes great roast beef and Yorkie pudding, hadn't had that in a long time.
She took 6 days off work to be with me, and was appropriately compensated, but sadly, the place where she worked in Bangkok fired her, as she absent longer than 3 days. She didn't seem to mind.
Overall I didn't see guys having the time of their lives, rather everyone was quietly going on with their business in a town that on the surface, could quickly put you into a death spin of beer and babes where each day merges into the next. Clearly to live there, you need discipline and a plan for your life. Just my observations. Maybe Pattaya grows on you.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1630113]Overall I didn't see guys having the time of their lives.[/QUOTE]What would that look like?
Not sure its possible to be deliriously happy all day, or party all night long 24/7. Most guys there seem to be having a good time IMHO.
Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.
[QUOTE=Paraspatel9915;1630205]Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.[/QUOTE]Good question. I don't think that has been asked before. Anyone have any suggestions to help out Mr Patel?
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1630311]Good question. I don't think that has been asked before. Anyone have any suggestions to help out Mr Patel?[/QUOTE]LOL, Mr. Patel should probably RTFF. I am sure the clue lies somewhere within the 15,000 odd reports on this thread.
Mr Patel.
From noon to evening their are many girls to be found on Beach Road and also Tahitian Queen bar on Beach Road near to Mikes shopping mall, whether they are 'Good girls' you will have to decide.
[QUOTE=Gus69;1630346]Mr Patel.
From noon to evening their are many girls to be found on Beach Road and also Tahitian Queen bar on Beach Road near to Mikes shopping mall, whether they are 'Good girls' you will have to decide.[/QUOTE]Tahitian Queen Bar on Beach Road will not allow an Indian (unaccompanied by farang) entry (even if it is late in the night and approaching closing time).
[QUOTE=ParasPatel9915;1630205]Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.[/QUOTE]Soi 6 and massage parlours all over Pattaya. Gogoclubs in Walking Street. Beerbars. Beach Road freelancers.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1630347]Tahitian Queen Bar on Beach Road will not allow an Indian (unaccompanied by farang) entry (even if it is late in the night and approaching closing time).[/QUOTE]Quite shocking that there is such blatant discrimination. One of my Indian friends popped over couple of years ago when I was in Pattaya and while HE was wandering around in WS waiting on me doing my business in Soi 6 HE was refused entry into several gogos including Walking Street bar (with the red car). I was pretty shocked. I had never seen that before.
I have heard beer bar girls complaining about groups of indian guys not buying drinks but trying to get 1 girl to go with a group of them. I actually witnessed this myself once in a bar across from View Talay 6. About 6 or 7 young Indian guys were huddled in a group while the 'brave' one was talking to one girl. Nobody bought any drinks and they just all stood in a huddle beside the bar for 10 minutes. Apparently they were asking the girl to service them all in one room. Very strange. Sad that it has caused so much hassle for the normal Indian Monger.
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1629422]Also, just to add a nugget of information which I forgot to add in my report was that Mixx has a few homosexual men in the crowd as well, the reason I came to this conclusion was that I got hit on by one guy. I almost ran out of the club. But otherwise its a fine place to party.[/QUOTE]You're just boasting now. :-)
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630431]You're just boasting now. :-)
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]LOL, wish I could see it that way :D
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630429]Quite shocking that there is such blatant discrimination. One of my Indian friends popped over couple of years ago when I was in Pattaya and while HE was wandering around in WS waiting on me doing my business in Soi 6 HE was refused entry into several gogos including Walking Street bar (with the red car). I was pretty shocked. I had never seen that before.
I have heard beer bar girls complaining about groups of indian guys not buying drinks but trying to get 1 girl to go with a group of them. I actually witnessed this myself once in a bar across from View Talay 6. About 6 or 7 young Indian guys were huddled in a group while the 'brave' one was talking to one girl. Nobody bought any drinks and they just all stood in a huddle beside the bar for 10 minutes. Apparently they were asking the girl to service them all in one room. Very strange. Sad that it has caused so much hassle for the normal Indian Monger.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]It is indeed shocking, and I am sure they aren't infamous there for nothing. But I have an objection on casting such a wide net of discrimination that every other punter who takes it seriously and doesn't pull the so-called typical stunt also suffers as a result. I don't see that stereotype changing anytime soon.
Well I'm thinking about going back to Pattaya, and I'm hearing disturbing things about the cost of the girls. Apperently ST / LT pricing is 2000/3000 + 700 (bar fine-minimum) across the Go-Gos, and even higher on Walking Street?? That coyote-girls aside, and I emphasize see-girls aside, the pricing is 2-3 k+ BF minimum, and even higher at WhatsUp, Happy, Baccara, Iron, Sensations, etc. Is this true? Need some additional input from some of you vets please.
*I know Soi6 is up 300 to 1000+300, and I believe the better looking FL's on BR require 1000ST. I think the Insomnia girls are getting at least 1000. I'm wondering how much the non-Coyote girls at the bigger Go-Go's are requiring? Can we still get the hot ones at Iron & Baccara, ETC for 2/3 k + 700/1 k BF?
[QUOTE=ParasPatel9915;1630205]Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.[/QUOTE]Patelji,
Indian and new to patts? Welcome. IMHO, go slow on the go gos. The gogo route needs some local exposure before the plunge.
The soapies are your best' and safe first bet. Try the oldie" sabai dee" , posh" rasputin" ,"Honeys 1 & 2" all in middle of town, open by 12 noon, alive by 3 pm.
Vibrant by 5 pm. Have a boom-booming time! And if you are up to it, keep a smiley face, then willing FLs will give you the look and "Hellooo. Where you goo. Ooo" Line. That is the standard pattaya line.
Bite the hook, sink the rod.
NM.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;1630472]Well I'm thinking about going back to Pattaya, and I'm hearing disturbing things about the cost of the girls. Apperently ST / LT pricing is 2000/3000 + 700 (bar fine-minimum) across the Go-Gos, and even higher on Walking Street?? That coyote-girls aside, and I emphasize see-girls aside, the pricing is 2-3 k+ BF minimum, and even higher at WhatsUp, Happy, Baccara, Iron, Sensations, etc. Is this true? Need some additional input from some of you vets please.
*I know Soi6 is up 300 to 1000+300, and I believe the better looking FL's on BR require 1000ST. I think the Insomnia girls are getting at least 1000. I'm wondering how much the non-Coyote girls at the bigger Go-Go's are requiring? Can we still get the hot ones at Iron & Baccara, ETC for 2/3 k + 700/1 k BF?[/QUOTE]To Stripperman.
Yes price increase after the Bangkok shoutdown in Feb this yr everything is up most high end bar in Pattaya asking 700 bht barfined and 4000 bht for the girl all night and 2500 for ST, it is low season now so not many toruist, price at soi 6 is been 1300ST inhouse since first of the yr but most bar will go down to 1000 bht but take out is high girl want 2500 bht for all night with 1000 barfine but you can still get girl at beach Road for 500 bht ST the ugly one that is, dining out resturant price is up alot since last yr Fuji steak set lunch is 159 bht just 6 month ago is now 239 bht big jump only thing is not up is taxi and bus fare oil price is coming back down.
Fast eddie 48.
Hi Guys,
Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?
It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630806]Hi Guys,
Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?
It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]I reported last month that a girl who works there said they only do BJ in the van. A regular taxi to Pattaya is 1000 baht. I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. To hell with a budget. Pay 12000 baht for that BJ big spender.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630806]
this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1630814]I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. [/QUOTE]It's 14000 bt according to the website. John, A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.
On 2nd thought, if I were you, I would go to Sensations A Go Go, take a good looking agency girl, and have a blast for 4000 bt LT plus barfine.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1630820]A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.[/QUOTE]The 7,800 Baht price is for two DD ladies overnight: [URL]http://devilsdenthailand.com/out-call.html[/URL].
I would agree if doing a DD outcall you should take them two at a time; as with one at a time the performance can be much more variable. I like to pick one lady and then have her choose her partner in crime.
SL.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630806]Hi Guys,
Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?
It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.
You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.
Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.
If you do do it. Please post your experience. It will make great reading!
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630806]Hi Guys,
Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?
It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]To Johnthescot.
If you want to do it in style you should rent a private jet have have a Orgy in 10,000 ft, not sure just a BJ in a van doing any thing for me just go to Bliss lounge in pattaya BBBJ there is 700 bht.
Fast eddie 48.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1630917]The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.
You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.
Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.[/QUOTE]Well my driver picked me up at 2:30 the other night and at 3:45 I was opening my eyes at the airport. So HE is only looking at 1 hour of actually doing anything. Like Eddie said HE is better off getting 20 BJs from Bliss Lounge than being a guinea pig in the mystery machine. These type of things sound good on paper but afterwards you will be like damn I just wasted X baht on some bullshit.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1630579]only thing is not up is taxi and bus fare oil price is coming back down.[/QUOTE]Nope. Taxi fares going up!
[URL]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/767171-thai-taxi-fares-to-go-up-but-taxi-condition-and-driver-behavior-must-also-improve/?utm_source=newsletter-20141010-0741&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/URL]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1630820]It's 14000 bt according to the website. John, A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.
On 2nd thought, if I were you, I would go to Sensations A Go Go, take a good looking agency girl, and have a blast for 4000 bt LT plus barfine.[/QUOTE]It was just to do something on way to Pattaya. On second thoughts maybe it is a bit much. I can just buy all the forum guys in Pattaya a beer with that money instead.
JohnTheScott.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1630814]I reported last month that a girl who works there said they only do BJ in the van. A regular taxi to Pattaya is 1000 baht. I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. To hell with a budget. Pay 12000 baht for that BJ big spender.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
Guess it's a bit steep for a couple of BJs. I just fancy doing somthing over the top. Not on a budget really so maybe.
or I can just do my usual and get taxi with a few beers to drink on the way and I can just fantasise about the fun coming up instead! :-)
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1630917]The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.
You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.
Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.
If you do do it. Please post your experience. It will make great reading![/QUOTE]UV,
It's just the sheer decadence of it that attracts me to it. I can't book on the website for Dec until next month so I have time to think about it. It's hardly a fortune though.
So maybe. .
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1630925]To Johnthescot.
If you want to do it in style you should rent a private jet have have a Orgy in 10,000 ft, not sure just a BJ in a van doing any thing for me just go to Bliss lounge in pattaya BBBJ there is 700 bht.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie 48 - Good idea. Do they have jets at Pattaya airfield? .
In my 20+ visits to Pattaya over the last 17 ish years I have never been in a BJ bar. I'll add this to the list for Dec trip. Thanks.
JohnTheScot.
If you are passing through Bangkok during daylight / evening hours, you might as well pass through Sukhumvit to get an oily out of the way or go through one of the soapies on the other side, because you are not likely to experience a good naughty massage place (meeting Bangkok standards) in Pattaya. If you are or have ever been a fan of such places, it might be worth trying them out for the last time.
Also, your list is ever-expanding, in addition to Bliss Lounge as recommended below, you can also add Telephone Bar and Club 4 to your list as well. Also, there is My Friend You and Click Bar on soi 6. Damn quite a few places to get BJ only in Pattaya (haven't included **** yet).
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630932]It was just to do something on way to Pattaya. On second thoughts maybe it is a bit much. I can just buy all the forum guys in Pattaya a beer with that money instead.
JohnTheScott.[/QUOTE]There you go. So what bar do you want to meet up? LOL.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1630935]UV,
It's just the sheer decadence of it that attracts me to it. I can't book on the website for Dec until next month so I have time to think about it. It's hardly a fortune though.
So maybe. .
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]LOL.
I think we were both thinking that it would go down like the opening scene in Dolemite:
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmzlKVYncw[/URL]
But the reality is probably a lot less tantalizing.
Where can I get a good deal on Maxman 100.
I heard it do miracles anyone used it?
Hahahaha.
Thanks for reply. Keep providing advice to make fresher's trip worth.
I will try Rasputin Sabai dee, as per your guideline.
Is negotiation advisable or not to bargain if no chances of cheating??
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1630524]Patelji,
Indian and new to patts? Welcome. IMHO, go slow on the go gos. The gogo route needs some local exposure before the plunge.
The soapies are your best' and safe first bet. Try the oldie" sabai dee" , posh" rasputin" ,"Honeys 1 & 2" all in middle of town, open by 12 noon, alive by 3 pm.
Vibrant by 5 pm. Have a boom-booming time! And if you are up to it, keep a smiley face, then willing FLs will give you the look and "Hellooo. Where you goo. Ooo" Line. That is the standard pattaya line.
Bite the hook, sink the rod.
NM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1630947]If you are passing through Bangkok during daylight / evening hours, you might as well pass through Sukhumvit to get an oily out of the way or go through one of the soapies on the other side, because you are not likely to experience a good naughty massage place (meeting Bangkok standards) in Pattaya. If you are or have ever been a fan of such places, it might be worth trying them out for the last time.
Also, your list is ever-expanding, in addition to Bliss Lounge as recommended below, you can also add Telephone Bar and Club 4 to your list as well. Also, there is My Friend You and Click Bar on soi 6. Damn quite a few places to get BJ only in Pattaya (haven't included **** yet).[/QUOTE]Thanks ActionOriented.
I am compiling a OneNote list of all places I haven't been yet that I am seeing mentioned in the forum. I've not read the forum for a year so a lot to get through. Started 100 pages back and half way through!!The list is growing. .
As for Bangkok, been there every trip so have experienced a a few oilies and soapys. I'll prob head to Bangkok for a few days in the middle. Got to say goodbye to Soi Cowboy and Nana in style too.
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1631027]There you go. So what bar do you want to meet up? LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha, If you are there you can certainly have a beer on me. Just to show Scots aren't really tight!!
JohnTheScot.
[quote=unclevolodya;1631078]lol.
i think we were both thinking that it would go down like the opening scene in dolemite:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmzlkvyncw[/url]
but the reality is probably a lot less tantalizing.[/quote]haha. i doubt it will live up to my fantasies. saying that, how bad can 2 naked girls giving you a bj while you drink beer in a nice comfortable minivan with a bar?
i have visions of 2 girls looking like total working girl's standing at arrivals with a big sign saying johnthescot, micro short dresses with devils den written on them. an official collects you when you get off plane, takes yiou to vip passport control where you are speeded through to get your luggage, then th egirls are waiting for you at arrivals gate!!
the big problem is my english gf will be getting off the plane too to connect to sydney. maybe not a great idea to be met off the plane!! i am going to visit my sick english friend in chang mai after all.
johnthescot.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631163]. Got to say goodbye to Soi Cowboy and Nana in style too.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]Just a question, but how do you know its your last trip. ? Getting married and not sure you can wing a " honey I'm going to Majorca to play golf " and end up in Soi 26 ?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1631193]Just a question, but how do you know its your last trip. ? Getting married and not sure you can wing a " honey I'm going to Majorca to play golf " and end up in Soi 26 ?[/QUOTE]Yup FreebieFan,
That is pretty much what is happening. Not married but we now live together for last year. Been together for 3 years and I have managed 4 trips in that time. I'm a good liar and I lie in advance. Thats a good skill to have.
(This author in no way condones lying in any form to anyone - Native Thai laydee or Ferang. )
BUT even my skills get a bit tired after a while. Before SHE, I was about a 20 times vistor from UK (Even stayed in pattaya for 6 months with a good redundancy deal - And left after spending 30k and needing to go back to UK to get a contract again!! :-) )
When she tried to change our Dec holiday this year in maldives 2 weeks to a Australia 2 weeks she tried to sweeten the deal by saying "why don't you go see your mates in Thailand and I can meet you there 2 weeks later? She knows I have been there many times BUT if you lie in advance I. E. Fiirst date =.
Her -I love thailand been a few times, Love the islands".
Me - "Oh wow, so do I, been many times, have some frineds there, english and Thai, great place. I'd live there".
Her - " Yeah it is so laid back The people are lovely and friendly and I love the food and full moon paty and the budha in such and such a place etc etc . And. And. ".
Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc"
OK soooooo 3 years later " ok I want to go see my sister in Sydney again. You are welcome to come. or You're welcome to go see your mates in thailand and we can meet in BKK or Hanoi or Hong Kong etc (like last year)" .
She thinks she is putting me out. I love her so not taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but if you plan ahead. And I mean 3 years. Then the world is your oyster. .
BUT I do love her so I think this will be it. Maybe.
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631209]Yup FreebieFan,
Her -I love thailand been a few times, Love the islands".
Me - "Oh wow, so do I, been many times, have some frineds there, english and Thai, great place. I'd live there".
Her - " Yeah it is so laid back The people are lovely and friendly and I love the food and full moon paty and the budha in such and such a place etc etc . And. And. ".
Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc"
OK soooooo 3 years later " ok I want to go see my sister in Sydney again. You are welcome to come. or You're welcome to go see your mates in thailand and we can meet in BKK or Hanoi or Hong Kong etc (like last year)" .
She thinks she is putting me out. I love her so not taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but if you plan ahead. And I mean 3 years. Then the world is your oyster. .
BUT I do love her so I think this will be it. Maybe.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]To paraphrase Arnold " You'll be back " !. Those cold nights at home, when you are thinking that a little brown lady next to you would ease you worries and frustration, when you know the Thai the bar has naked babes instead of grumpy old men drinking pints and chasers, when the icicles on your house could so easily be replaced by warming Thai sunshine. Yes you will be back.
" Honey, I'm just going to the shops for some milk. It won't take longer than 2 weeks ".
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1631214]To paraphrase Arnold " You'll be back " !. Those cold nights at home, when you are thinking that a little brown lady next to you would ease you worries and frustration, when you know the Thai the bar has naked babes instead of grumpy old men drinking pints and chasers, when the icicles on your house could so easily be replaced by warming Thai sunshine. Yes you will be back.
" Honey, I'm just going to the shops for some milk. It won't take longer than 2 weeks ".[/QUOTE]Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL!
Oh wait I'll get back to you, got a text from a girl caled oy, nah, ta, nong, bing, bong, porn, bing bong want to meet hansum man love me too mcuh I think!! :
JohnTheScot.
P.S.
NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!!
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631223]Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL!
Oh wait I'll get back to you, got a text from a girl caled oy, nah, ta, nong, bing, bong, porn, bing bong want to meet hansum man love me too mcuh I think!! :
JohnTheScot.
P.S.
NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!![/QUOTE]On this forum we may have a different definition of "better person", so beware! ;)
(one week and one day and I leave for LOS again).
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631223]Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL![/QUOTE]What good is your free will.
If the cold winters here make you chill'?
And the honeys of Sukhumvit's alleys.
Invite you to explore their juicy valleys?
They will ride you in true Asian cowgirl style.
Until your face is all a-smile.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631209]
Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc" [/QUOTE]But what do you do when your girl friends wants to meet those 'good' Thai and English friends I wonder? Or do you really have friends in Thailand outside the P4 P scene?
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1631223]
NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!![/QUOTE]I'm afraid we can't help you anymore. There's no hope for you anymore, LOL!
[QUOTE=ParasPatel9915;1630205]Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the forum Mr. Patel. Glad to see you put so much effort into your third post!
But I digress.
If you are looking for "good girls for action during noon to evening" there is no substitute for Soi 6/1, between Second Road and Beach Road. NOTE WELL: Soi 6/1 is *NOT* the same as Soi 6. It runs parallel to Soi 6, but slightly to the south. My advice would be to take a baht bus headed north on Second Road and get off on Soi 6/1, then walk west toward Beach Road.
You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1 and if you hit it off you can retire to a room on the premises for a short time session that I promise you will not forget. Just as you desire, they will certainly be "up for action," if you know what I mean. The price will usually be 700 to the lady, plus 300 to the bar for use of the room. But sometimes the ladies will desire 1000.
Have fun! I look forward to more informative posts from you on this forum.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Bunky;1631530]
If you are looking for "good girls for action during noon to evening" there is no substitute for Soi 6/1, between Second Road and Beach Road. NOTE WELL: Soi 6/1 is *NOT* the same as Soi 6. It runs parallel to Soi 6, but slightly to the south. My advice would be to take a baht bus headed north on Second Road and get off on Soi 6/1, then walk west toward Beach Road.[/QUOTE]Bunky, you are sooooo cruel!
[QUOTE=Bunky;1631530]
You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1
Bunky[/QUOTE]I agree, soi 6/1 is the answer 555, the quality available is far superior than soi 6. First stop in Pattaya recommended. :D
[QUOTE=Bunky;1631530] ...
You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1 ....
[/QUOTE]You just have to make SURE you can tell the difference between a female and a ladyboy 6/1.
I think you will have better time Soi 6.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1631562]You just have to make SURE you can tell the difference between a female and a ladyboy 6/1.
I think you will have better time Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Yes, be careful. Soi 6 is crawling with ladyboys these days. But Soi6/1 will guarantee you some solid action that you won't forget in a long time.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1631287]But what do you do when your girl friends wants to meet those 'good' Thai and English friends I wonder? Or do you really have friends in Thailand outside the P4 P scene?
I'm afraid we can't help you anymore. There's no hope for you anymore, LOL![/QUOTE]If there was no sex scene, Pattaya would be a ghost town.
[QUOTE=JesseJames;1631796]If there was no sex scene, Pattaya would be a ghost town.[/QUOTE]European retired couples from Nov to April, Russian faamilies during both Russian summer and winter, Asian tour groups make nowadays more visitors to Pattaya than sex tourists. Of course if you only operate from durk till dawn in some parts of Pattaya, you may be misleaded.
Dear All,
I have been staying at least 2 nights in Bangkok whenever I visit Thailand on a stop over for soem relaxation.
I am planning to stay in Pataya this time as I feel a bit bored staying Bankok.
Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.
I wonder if there is any advise on the girlfriendly hotel around there and also what is the present market prices for ST and LT for bars around. I know some guys may ask me to "RTFF". But I still need some advises from pro here, Specially FreebieFan, FastEddie etc.
Thanks.
Cherrs,
MD.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1631960]Dear All,
I am planning to stay in Pataya this time as I feel a bit bored staying Bankok.
Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.
MD.[/QUOTE]Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!
Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1631960]
Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.
[/QUOTE]Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's. There is a separate thread on it on the Thailand pages for this hotel and the page was shut down by Jackson for this reason. The pictures of the rooms of this hotel on the internet appear to be very clean and renovated, but for that price you will find several hotels in and around the same soi. Much cheaper stuff (with good value) is to be had near the LK Metro area. You could stay here for a day or two like PL99 suggested, and find an alternative in the meantime.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1631965]Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!
Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.[/QUOTE]Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a night nice big bathroom walk in shower, big room with balcony, refrigerator, balcony, 2 free bottles water everyday, and I like the area, oh and 2 pools!
[QUOTE=RacShack;1631977]Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a night nice big bathroom walk in shower, big room with balcony, refrigerator, balcony, 2 free bottles water everyday, and I like the area, oh and 2 pools![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1631973]Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's. There is a separate thread on it on the Thailand pages for this hotel and the page was shut down by Jackson for this reason. The pictures of the rooms of this hotel on the internet appear to be very clean and renovated, but for that price you will find several hotels in and around the same soi. Much cheaper stuff (with good value) is to be had near the LK Metro area. You could stay here for a day or two like PL99 suggested, and find an alternative in the meantime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1631965]Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!
Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.[/QUOTE]Dear Brothers,
Thnaks for your nice advise.
It was the terrible smell and run down room of Penthouse hotel that make me looking for some more advises of a nice good hotel. In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nioce and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recomedation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area. Also been away from Pataya scene for quite a while, so I need some advise on how the rate for ST and LT in those bars.
In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.
Cheers,
MD.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1631643]Yes, be careful. Soi 6 is crawling with ladyboys these days. But Soi6/1 will guarantee you some solid action that you won't forget in a long time.[/QUOTE]I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.
Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.
If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1631973]Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's.[/QUOTE]I know a guy I met in Pattaya who actually got conned by a joint named Vault. They sell rooms on their site naming them things like the 'Original Penthouse' etc. , and when he got there, he found out to his horror that Vault was a run down motel type of a place without basic stuff such as security or swimming pool, not even a decent tv signal etc. Overall it was not the real deal and I remember this guy telling me that the Penthouse was run by some Australian, English and American partners. Are you sure its run by ladyboys? I mean, I don't have anything against ladyboys as long as they don't start getting all touchy like they do in some of the GG bars.
Did the place got sold or what?
[QUOTE=RacShack;1631977]Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a night[/QUOTE]I hear mixed feedbacks on Penthouse, some people reporting it being cockroach infested and some stating that they didn't see any roaches.
Having said that, it is hard to decide but I'm very much inclined to try Penthouse some day for a few nights.
What I would prefer is that the indoor pool of Penthouse which it is so famous for (as hardly any Pattaya hotels have well maintained indoor pools) would remain on the whole evening. Another thing that I feel is a bit too much is the way its marketing team defends this hotel so fiercely. Customers should have a say. Again, I haven't tried the place so only saying from what I read online or heard from people I've met.
I was planning to try Sutus Court during my next visit but it seems even they have cockroaches as the first review on Trip Advisor states but moreover I hate rude staff and the stained sheets which sound absolutely scary:
[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293919-d2283542-Reviews-Sutus_Court-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html[/URL]
I usually stay in LK Empress, Holiday Inn, Hard Rock (where I have found cockroaches too) but it was the crappy furniture, lack of sound proofing and rude staff that made me move on to LK Empress and Holiday Inn.
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1632119]
In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.
Cheers,
MD.[/QUOTE]A search on the Pattaya Hotels thread should yield good results.
Many Pattaya a-GoGos have a sliding bar fine which means that before 12 am, the bar fine would be much higher. Coyote girls have bar fines between (THB 1000 - 1500) and their ST / LT rates are equally terrible (something like THB 2,500 up). So Pattaya aGoGos are generally not that cheap (if you end up picking coyotes).
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1632119]Dear Brothers,
In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nioce and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recomedation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area. Also been away from Pataya scene for quite a while, so I need some advise on how the rate for ST and LT in those bars.
In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.
Cheers,
MD.[/QUOTE]Holiday Inn Bangkok is quite nice. Never had a problem, friendly staff and very close to Soi Cowboy, a 10 minute walk, more or less.
In Pattaya, like I said previously, try the LK Empress or if you fancy breath taking views of Pattaya bay then go for the Holiday Inn. Oh, forgot to mention that I've also stayed at the Hilton but their 2,000 baht (plus taxes) joiner fee was too harsh as some nights I come back with my regular girlfriend and two more. Although I did tell them they were only there to teach me Thai language.
Even though you've been away for a while, your prices are quite accurate.
Bangkok beer bars, I haven't found any under 600 to 700 BF recently, ST 2000 to LT 3500. Agogos, BF 900 to 1700 (plus tip to keep the Mamasan happy when you take her best girls out and to keep yourself in her white-list) ST 2500 to 5500.
Pattaya beer bars, BF really varies from 300 till 700. ST 1500 to LT 2500. Agogos, BF also varies from 600 to 1500 (yes, I once bar fined this star fish aka coyote, my fault) ST 2000 to LT 4500.
[QUOTE=FreeKick;1632156]I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.
Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.
If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.[/QUOTE]I have walked through soi 6 on my way to beach road after closing time (1-2 am) and I do agree that only LB's roam the stretch but they are hardly aggressive unlike the ones found elsewhere. In the dark, I could not comment on how they looked. Soi 6 has got several bars which cater to LB's (Pook, Suzie Wong etc) and some bars have a mixed crowd, the footfall in this soi seemed very depleted on my last visit, it could however only be a seasonal phenomenon as opposed to a large shift out of soi 6 due to a so-called take over by the LB's. Also, a lot of the LB's working the bars on soi 6 (if not bar fined already) can be found as FL's on WS, I happened to see 2-3 such whom I had seen (in passing) not one hour before on soi 6.
Don't be afraid to walk through soi 6, 6/1 is another story.
[QUOTE=FreeKick;1632156]I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.
Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.
If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.[/QUOTE]So my comments were tongue in cheek, as it were. I'm not usually out and about at 2 am, but I have to say I never have problems with ladyboys. A cheery 'How's it going, guys?' is usually enough to put them off, and I stroll on unmolested.
[QUOTE=FreeKick;1632156]If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.[/QUOTE]Seriously? What do you really think they are going to do to you? The very worst I have ever experienced is a tug on the arm.
[QUOTE=MachoDik]It was the terrible smell and run down room of Penthouse hotel that make me looking for some more advises of a nice good hotel. In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nice and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recommendation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area.[/QUOTE]Check out the LK chain of hotels:
[URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/[/URL]
They have multiple locations in Pattaya, many of them very convenient to the places favored by naughty boys.
For example, the LK Renaissance is just steps from Soi LK Metro:
[URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20Renaissance[/URL]
And the LK Royal Suite is on Soi Buakaow, very close to the night market:
[URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20Royal%20Suite[/URL]
If you want something closer to the beach, try the LK Empress:
[URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20The%20Empress[/URL]
If you're looking for something less expensive, surf over to the Pattaya *HOTELS* forum and read up on the guest houses in Central Pattaya on Soi Buakaow, Soi Lengkee and Soi Chaiyapoon. Lots of nice places to stay in the 1000 baht per night range. If you're looking for something more expensive and/or closer to the ocean, check out the Page 10, the Baraquda or the Sea Me Spring. If you're made of money the Hilton is nice, as is the Marriott.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Bunky;1632251]CIf you want something closer to the beach, try the LK Empress:
[URL]http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20The%20Empress[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Since the discussion has now moved onto hotels on the reports page, my suggestion to MD is if you want to stay within WS, try Jasmine Suites. Alternatively, any of the recommendations by Bunky are good and then there are a few cheaper options which can be found from soi 13 all the way to soi Lengkee.
Thanks to Action Oriented, Bunky and Free Kick for your kind comment and recomendation.
I wish yours or any other brothers here to further give some feedback for the following questions;.
1) in Pattaya, is the action area concentrate in Walking street or also in Soi Metro? Last time as time is not allowed me to further adventure other spot, so I only concentrate in Walking street and I have seen so many a go go bars along the street and till the far end, I can see some outdoor open air beer bars wherein the girls around there also can be taken out too.
2) Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?
Cheers,
MD.
[QUOTE=MachoDik]In Pattaya is the action area concentrated in Walking street or also in Soi Metro?[/QUOTE]The "action areas" in Pattaya are described at GREAT length in previous pages of this forum. Go back about 30-40 pages and read. You'll see reports on three main areas: Walking Street (mostly go go clubs, plus discos where freelancers hang out); Soi LK Metro (increasingly a go go club venue, but also beer bars); and Soi 6 (smaller bars where short-time, on premises sessions are on offer). If you don't know where those areas are located, buy a map. I like the Groovy map of Pattaya, which is available from numerous online sellers. Once you do your homework, you can ask informed questions that will get a response. You won't get anywhere with clueless newbie queries that mark you as somebody who is too lazy to go back and read previous reports.
[QUOTE]Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?[/QUOTE]Again, go back and read the previous reports in this forum. Pricing is highly variable, depending on the venue, the girl and the season. If you do your homework you'll be able to ask questions that get an answer, as opposed to questions that invite rebuke.
WRONG: Which is cheaper, Bangkok or Pattaya?
RIGHT: I see that the going rate for a short time session on Soi 6 is 1000 to the girl and 300 to the bar. If I go to one of the bars where the girls do blowjobs only can I get away with paying the former rate of 700 + 300?
You get the idea.
Bunky
[quote=mouse1;1632245]seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm.[/quote]assault, physical fights when you reject or ignore them.
robbing your belongings while engaging you in a friendly chat. etc. , etc. ,
the list goes on if anyone can search for.
ladyboy assault in pattaya.
ladyboy steal / theft / robbery in pattaya.
the stories you'll see are actual facts and it happens every week, and on the other hand how many ggs do we see assaulting tourists every week?
still, i don't have anything against their choice of lifestyle.
[quote=mouse1;1632238]a cheery 'how's it going, guys?' is usually enough to put them off, and i stroll on unmolested.[/quote]i hope you are not serious?
calling them 'guys' would be considered extremely sarcastic and could end up in negative consequences especially when they're working so hard to portray themselves as 'gals'. but i guess that was just a figure of speech.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1632190]Many Pattaya a-GoGos have a sliding bar fine which means that before 12 am, the bar fine would be much higher. Coyote girls have bar fines between (THB 1000 - 1500) and their ST / LT rates are equally terrible (something like THB 2,500 up). So Pattaya aGoGos are generally not that cheap (if you end up picking coyotes).[/QUOTE]The 'sliding bar fine' point is very true and an important point that I missed. Most of the agogos and even beer bars follow this 'sliding bar fines' in Pattaya. Bangkok and even Phuket.
Good point!
[QUOTE=MachoDik;1632387]1) in Pattaya, is the action area concentrate in Walking street or also in Soi Metro? Last time as time is not allowed me to further adventure other spot, so I only concentrate in Walking street and I have seen so many a go go bars along the street and till the far end, I can see some outdoor open air beer bars wherein the girls around there also can be taken out too.
2) Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]In Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, entire stretch of Soi Buakhao (not just Soi LK Metro and Soi LK which are just two sub-sois), Soi Diana Inn (also a Soi Buakhao sub-soi) and this extremely famous but I forgot the name of this Soi which is full of bars and Massage Parlors, this Soi is right after Soi LK as you go towards the north. May be some one can name this Soi for MD (and me)?
Also the second road end of Sois 2, 3 and 4 (near Big see North Pattaya).
In Bangkok. Soi Nana's freelancers would be the cheapest and you will also find many African women there. Something I forgot to mention earlier.
I think Pattaya has employed many of these high-end girls so-called coyotes which are always a waste unless you are paying even higher prices than the usual agogo girls and the second problem could very well be the introduction of pathetic discos such as Tony's, Insomnia, Mixx which are actually a more modern brothel where girls sell themselves as almost-freelancers but still making money out of the lady drinks (which is understandable) but they are so up their own asses and ask for really crazy prices by giving silly excuses that we don't have to pay a barfine and that she is better quality blah blah blah.
But the biggest drawback is that you don't get to see the girl (completely naked) before you pick her up like you do in agogos.
Discos are nothing but a con.
Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.
[quote=freekick;1632939]assault, physical fights when you reject or ignore them.
robbing your belongings while engaging you in a friendly chat. etc. , etc. ,
the list goes on if anyone can search for.
ladyboy assault in pattaya.
ladyboy steal / theft / robbery in pattaya.
the stories you'll see are actual facts and it happens every week, and on the other hand how many ggs do we see assaulting tourists every week?
still, i don't have anything against their choice of lifestyle.
i hope you are not serious?
calling them 'guys' would be considered extremely sarcastic and could end up in negative consequences especially when they're working so hard to portray themselves as 'gals'. but i guess that was just a figure of speech.[/quote]i can only say what works for me. i often walk up soi 6/1 at nighttime (often to avoid being spotted by a soi 6 girl i might have promised to visit), and when accosted by the gentlemen of the night a cheery greeting and a high five gets a smile. it's just a recognition that we both know it's all a bit of a game. they are not ogres or trolls and probably occasionally enjoy a laugh. on other occasions i have said slightly more irritably that 'i'm looking for a lady' and i don't think i have offended anyone.
sure you can google 'ladyboy assaults in pattaya' and get results. you can also google 'moon landing was a fake' and get results.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633026]Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, but so much for a HJ? Paying better bucks for a legit massage girl (for FS) may still be OK because she is not a beach road girl, but not for a HJ IMHO.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633048]Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.[/QUOTE]It just seems like there's a ton of these massage joints around, some with some decent lookers. Suprised there isn't more written about them, then again maybe experienced hobbiest know to avoid these places. I wouldn't mind a nice hour long massage followed by a BBBJ from a cutie. Maybe its best just to stick with the full service joints for this type of service.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. That is way over priced for a HJ. She should just do the massage and let you tip afterwards for the good service.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633026]I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.[/QUOTE]If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.
In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1633009]Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.[/QUOTE]I reported a few months ago that I was able to bring one home with me. I had to pay 500 for the 2 hour outcall massage and I gave her 500 for FS. Recently, I had her stay the night. She lives upstairs in the shop. She came with me when they closed at midnight and I took her back about noon the next day. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else for all night.
I also have one at my regular massage shop who comes to stay with me that I have never given anything to. We just go on regular dates. I had known her for a couple of years but she always thought I was joking about going out. Finally, one day back in March we went to eat and went to the movies. Then I took her home and got her drunk. She has stayed a few times since then. She said she had not been with a man for a few years since she left her hometown and her boyfriend broke up with her.
Another time I did FS with a girl in a massage parlor on Soi 6. She started at 1000 but I got her down to 500. We had to be quiet because, well, the only thing that separated us from other people was the curtain. After that she would always try to get me to come in when I passed the place.
Yet another time I met one in a massage shop in Nana Plaza mall. She came over after work and spent the night. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else. We stayed in touch for a while.
My first action ever in Thailand was in a massage parlor in Bangkok down an alley across from Nana Hotel. I remember me and my wingman giving the girls 300 extra for HJ. Knowing what I know now, I would not pay more than 200.
Bottom line is probably to flirt with them and see where it leads to. The most recent girl that I talked about first I didn't flirt anything. I was just driving by and saw her out front and stopped and asked how much for a massage at my place. She said 500 for 2 hours. Then I asked how much I had to give her. She said up to me. But I guess you see my pattern now. Regardless of the situation, I give chicks 500 baht for ST and 1000 baht for LT. The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1633202]The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.[/QUOTE]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.
Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633136]If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.
In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.
[QUOTE=FreeKick;1632960]In Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, [/QUOTE]Actually it is Second Road Soi 6, 7, 8. Beach Road has no sois officially.
If you ask a moto driver to take you to Beach Road Soi 6 he will be puzzled.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1633273]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.
Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.[/QUOTE]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie!
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633278]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie![/QUOTE]Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1633273]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.
Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633278]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie![/QUOTE]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.
I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.
Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1633288]Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.[/QUOTE]Another Mr. E fan as well. It's one thing being a 2 week millionaire visiting Pattaya, but when you live here full time it's a different ball game. Mr. E's is one of the few posters I follow regularly as I also live here permanently. Any chance of getting info on a few of the 100 baht ST rooms (I know P.S. Guesthouse) would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1633295]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.
I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.
Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.[/QUOTE]No criticism of Mr E intended. If HE can get away with paying that then that is fine. Others such as myself pay more because we perhaps lack his charm, looks or determination.
Mr. E,
I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.
Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633344]Mr. E,
I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.
Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)[/QUOTE]LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.
I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.
[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383]LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? [/QUOTE]Yes I remember, and to clarify, I was envious. LOL.
[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383] Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.[/QUOTE]The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D
PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room.
[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383]I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.[/QUOTE]Happy to help, next time instead of Mumbai make a trip to New Delhi, I assure you that it will be a lot more fun!!
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633276]Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.[/QUOTE]I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.
But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633455]I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.
But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.[/QUOTE]It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.
You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633431] .....
The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D
PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room. [/QUOTE]I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .
As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1633295]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.
I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.
Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.[/QUOTE]I totally agree.
My man Mr. E has his own MO and it works. In the past, I remember paying some bar fines. I did it more often in the first two years. But then after hanging out with him and gaining more experience in Thailand my thoughts on the subject changed. I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633570] I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.[/QUOTE]Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1633574]Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.[/QUOTE]If I like the girl I just ask for her number. If she says ok, I hand her my phone and let her call. If she says she can not do it then I leave it up to her. I don't want her getting into trouble for that. There have been a couple of times where the girl has gone to the bathroom or changing area and comes back with her number on a piece of paper. On several occasions, I have run into the same girls after work. Some of them that didn't get barfined go out party with friends or they go to the club to find that special man.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633565]I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .
As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.[/QUOTE]Ahh, the story with you and your regularsis always exciting. I do hope you will report some new hotties soon (and go check out the massage parlors I told you about, 5 minutes from where you stay, also FS on the premises will cost you between 500-700 baht). On a side note, I am still drooling over the photos of the girl with a bubble butt that you shared.
Your observations re bar fines are spot on. IMHO bar fining is for tourists, not for those who have the patience to play the long game.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1633531]It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.
You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)[/QUOTE]thank you. My point exactly but more succinctly put.
I remember a few years back some newbie on this forum ranting about the price of FS given the high ratio of girls to guys in Pattaya, saying 'Haven't they heard about the Law of Supply and Demand?' LOL.
I sat next to an Indian gentleman on a flight a couple of years back as he bragged about 'getting two escort girls back to his room for 10,000 bht'. But He only wanted a HJ... He thought that was a great deal...
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1633531] ...
You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)[/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider a HJ at any price. The input on suggested price was provided to answer another member's question. I can't imagine anyone coming here and not finding a lady to agree with their thinking. :-)
AO,
I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?
BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633692]Ahh, the story with you and your regularsis always exciting. I do hope you will report some new hotties soon (and go check out the massage parlors I told you about, 5 minutes from where you stay, also FS on the premises will cost you between 500-700 baht). On a side note, I am still drooling over the photos of the girl with a bubble butt that you shared.
Your observations re bar fines are spot on. IMHO bar fining is for tourists, not for those who have the patience to play the long game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Margaya;1633972]AO,
I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?
BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.[/QUOTE]Among the naughty massage places, I tried out PP Massage (twice - same girl, she was pretty but a starfish) and Paradise massage (twice, once for FS and once for BJ) on soi Honey. I walked down soi Chaiyapoon which has Aree massage and 5-6 other run down massage parlors all of which are open during the day. But I found Chaiyapoon severely lacking in quality of decent looking girls, IMHO. I passed through this soi on different days at all hours (may twice in one day). The quality on soi Honey was much better and there are 3-4 straight massage shops on this soi one or two are oriented towards LB's (so watch out). So if you are passing through Chaiyapoon, and do not find anything attractive, I suggest keep walking onto 3rd road and you will find Bliss Lounge which although I am yet to try I have heard good things about (its a BJ bar).
FYI, although not massage parlors, but soi 6 bars are open 2pm onwards, so you can ST girls for the same price and a drink on the 6 as well. Just opens up more options for day time action.
I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.
Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?
[QUOTE=Priamos;1634948]I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.
Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?[/QUOTE]I have wondered the same in relation to cashiers and waitresses in discos but apparently the scene for them both in Bangkok and Pattaya remain the same, they are like FL's / normal girls, it's up to them whether they want to go with you.
But I do know that waitresses in some a Go-Gos are bar finable. I was meeting up with a friend in Pattaya and he had been staying there for a while, there was a girl along with him (similar to the description you gave) and my friend introduced her as a waitress working at Babydolls a-GoGo (on walking street), since he had bar fined her the previous night she had spent the last night with him and since the next day was her day off, she spent the entire day with my friend (which is when we met her). In fact this waitress was so cool, she accompanied a group of 3 guys on a Go-Go hop (in LK metro) and bar crawl (on soi 6). After a couple of days, we landed up at Babydolls and I found her working there and she took care of the bins and the girls near out table. So some of the waitresses are indeed available for take out, you just need to look for them or wait it out.
[QUOTE=Priamos;1634948]I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.
Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?[/QUOTE]It is good to know that I am not alone in that game, I have done that a couple times but never told anyone about it.
And you are right these girls are top performance and if their English is good enough listen to their stories about what happen in the bar and you will get be amazed.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1633972]AO,
I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?
BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.[/QUOTE]M,
One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.
Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.
Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.
All the best.
NM.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1633972]AO,
I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?
BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.[/QUOTE]The names of the numerous MPs dotted along the whole stretch of Soi Honey is really immaterial. You just need to saunter the whole Soi, and double back if you want, and see what's, or rather who's out there sitting in the shop verandas. Most will be beckoning you wildly, trust me. So just pick any one you fancy. It's really the luck of the draw for that particular moment you passed by that particular MP. The puying of your dreams may have just started her shift, or finished a ST, and may has just come out to the shop balcony for her next custom. As you passed by. LOL.
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1634987]M,
One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.
Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.
Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.
All the best.
NM.[/QUOTE]That's not surprising, but the soapies in Pattaya have had varied reviews and not many of them nice (esp Rasputin has the worst reviews). While the Sabai Dee's, Rasputin, Honey (1 & 2) are all easily found and are much more upscale establishments (in terms of infrastructure and price), the quality is something which leaves a lot to be desired. Several patrons complain about the fishbowls at these places where as in Bangkok, the quality of the girls on offer is hardly disputed. In terms of service, I think Bangkok and Pattaya soapies may not be that far apart. No harm in trying out these soapies, its worth an experience.
I personally do not see much value in spending 3800 baht in Devil's Den (a newer avatar of Eden) for two girls. If I wanted PSE in a MP, I would prefer to enjoy that in Bangkok. If I still crave some more, I found a place in my last visit which fits the bill and I have reported about it.
The massage places on soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon will service you at less than half the cost of the soapies mentioned above. The disclaimer being that the places will be dirty and do not go in expecting the typical grandeur of a soapy (and goes without saying other people can hear you do the deed). :)
Back in Patts for another getaway. I was disappointed to see the X Zone has closed up shop (but they were open in July).
I like the raunchiness of that place. Anybody know of any suitable replacements?
On the plus side, BR continues to thrive, and the police don't seem to have made much difference. Yesterday I saw a couple of cops walking down the sidewalk of BR with a megaphone saying something, but the girls didn't bother to move.
I love Thailand.
Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Toumai;1635035]The names of the numerous MPs dotted along the whole stretch of Soi Honey is really immaterial. You just need to saunter the whole Soi, and double back if you want, and see what's, or rather who's out there sitting in the shop verandas. Most will be beckoning you wildly, trust me. So just pick any one you fancy. It's really the luck of the draw for that particular moment you passed by that particular MP. The puying of your dreams may have just started her shift, or finished a ST, and may has just come out to the shop balcony for her next custom. As you passed by. LOL.[/QUOTE]Very true, sometimes one does hit a diamond in the rough.
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1634987]M,
One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.
Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.
Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.
All the best.
NM.[/QUOTE]Thanks NM. I did read up about the famous ones such as sabai dee etc but will spend my money in Bangkok which I think offers superior quality.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1634092]Among the naughty massage places, I tried out PP Massage (twice - same girl, she was pretty but a starfish) and Paradise massage (twice, once for FS and once for BJ) on soi Honey. I walked down soi Chaiyapoon which has Aree massage and 5-6 other run down massage parlors all of which are open during the day. But I found Chaiyapoon severely lacking in quality of decent looking girls, IMHO. I passed through this soi on different days at all hours (may twice in one day). The quality on soi Honey was much better and there are 3-4 straight massage shops on this soi one or two are oriented towards LB's (so watch out). So if you are passing through Chaiyapoon, and do not find anything attractive, I suggest keep walking onto 3rd road and you will find Bliss Lounge which although I am yet to try I have heard good things about (its a BJ bar).
FYI, although not massage parlors, but soi 6 bars are open 2pm onwards, so you can ST girls for the same price and a drink on the 6 as well. Just opens up more options for day time action.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks a bunch.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1635038]
The massage places on soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon will service you at less than half the cost of the soapies mentioned above. [/QUOTE]Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.
When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.
About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.
Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.
So, be prepared, guys.
[QUOTE=TravelinDog;1635364]Back in Patts for another getaway. I was disappointed to see the X Zone has closed up shop (but they were open in July).
I like the raunchiness of that place. Anybody know of any suitable replacements?
[/QUOTE]Angel witch and Windmill.
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1635513] Just a warning: ... When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower... Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only. About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT ... So, be prepared, guys.[/QUOTE]That sucks. Sorry that happened to you.
I would recommend that a guy 'never' leaves his pants / shorts unattended. This goes for everywhere (Rio, CR, Thailand, etc). I usually taken my shorts with me to the shower or to the bathroom. Even when I am with a new lady in my hotel room. I don't leave my shorts with a decent amount cash alone with the girl. Lets say you just arrived to the room with your new date and it's time to hit the showers. I either let her shower first and I lock up my extra cash or we shower together.
I just remembered another thing. About a year ago, as I was walking down the street, a lady boy was getting in the way up ahead. There was also another guy who happened to be going in the same direction. As we got closer, I started to move away to prevent the lady boy from getting too close. I prefer to keep at least 3 to 6 feet of distance away. After we passed the lady boy, I told the guy I don't want them too close to me because they might try to pickpocket you. He said that same thing had just happened to him. I told him, no, always distance yourself. Don't let them touch you, or fondle you. If they get that close, one hand will distract you while the other hand goes in your pocket. This applies to all genders (lady boys, girls on beach road, and strangers on the bus).
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1635513]Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.
When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.
About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.
Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.
So, be prepared, guys.[/QUOTE]Reiner,
I will be in Pattaya next week. What you are telling people is not a warning. This is just common sense and basic street smarts. A few thousand baut is a small price to pay. He could have taken your credit cards.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1635530]That sucks. Sorry that happened to you.
I would recommend that a guy 'never' leaves his pants / shorts unattended. This goes for everywhere (Rio, CR, Thailand, etc). I usually taken my shorts with me to the shower or to the bathroom. Even when I am with a new lady in my hotel room. I don't leave my shorts with a decent amount cash alone with the girl. Lets say you just arrived to the room with your new date and it's time to hit the showers. I either let her shower first and I lock up my extra cash or we shower together.
I just remembered another thing. About a year ago, as I was walking down the street, a lady boy was getting in the way up ahead. There was also another guy who happened to be going in the same direction. As we got closer, I started to move away to prevent the lady boy from getting too close. I prefer to keep at least 3 to 6 feet of distance away. After we passed the lady boy, I told the guy I don't want them too close to me because they might try to pickpocket you. He said that same thing had just happened to him. I told him, no, always distance yourself. Don't let them touch you, or fondle you. If they get that close, one hand will distract you while the other hand goes in your pocket. This applies to all genders (lady boys, girls on beach road, and strangers on the bus).[/QUOTE]I guess you and everyone else need to add LB in massage salons too! If you are into that kind of stuff I guess also in his situation not only did the LB got close HE got him to take his pants off too! OUCH!
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1635513]Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.
When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.
About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.
Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.
So, be prepared, guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. But I think when you walk down soi Honey, right at the head next to Fantasy Lounge is a massage parlor which is run by LB's and then while you walk down soi Honey after crossing PP massage, on your right will be another shop which is staffed with LB's. These particular LB's are scary and have muscles which would intimidate me. So distinguishing the shops with LBs as opposed to those with not, is relatively easy in the daylight hours. As pointed out by PL99, whilst in Pattaya one always needs to be alert in the presence or vicinity of LB's. I would think that they keep a leash on their temptation to steal from customers in a massage shop, but that clearly is not the case. It's better to be careful of them in general, I guess.
Although I think your pocket got picked in the massage shop, because if it had to happen anywhere else you would not have found your wallet (assuming you kept it in your wallet / cash holder). In this case your wallet was with you, only the several thousand baht which you had just converted prior to your visit was missing. Would it make sense in informing management of the massage shop re the thieving LB? Or are they so hand in glove with the whole thing that they won't care?
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1635742] only the several thousand baht which you had just converted prior to your visit was missing. Would it make sense in informing management of the massage shop re the thieving LB? Or are they so hand in glove with the whole thing that they won't care?[/QUOTE]It was just a very small massage spot, (you directly hit it when crossing Soi Bukonow at end of Soi Honey) I only saw 2 LBs working there. And I definitely have no proof, that exactly it was the LB, who picked the $$ only "strong evidence". So I considered it a lesson, to be payed for, and moved on, not wasting time during my last days.
As there was very often in my past the same chance for a regular girl to pick my money, which never happened in Pattaya, I considered it worthwile here to post the (almost) first-time affair with a LB and a bad experience. (Although a good trick, offering the "shower" only after finding out, where I had my money for paying).
Never have anymore than you can afford to loose on you, the rest stays in the safe.
I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?
I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?
[QUOTE=Otari;1635942]I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?
I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?[/QUOTE]Exchange rates change daily. You have to walk to a few places and check. Don't worry, they are everywhere.
In Bangkok, I like the exchange place on Soi 3 (opposite Nana Plaza. Assuming you are near that area). From soi 4, cross over Sukhumvit to get to soi 3. Its a small place about 50 m up the road on the left side. The other place I prefer is right at the corner of Soi 7/1. Both places had the best rates.
For kamagra in Bangkok, I can suggest this pharmacy. From soi 4 and Sukhumvit, go left on Sukhumvit and its after the gas station on the left side. The man there was straight and his prices were good. Prices vary from place to place.
If you want info on a pharmacy in Pattaya, you can send me a pm after you get here.
For general questions, consider the general reports thread.
[QUOTE=Otari;1635942]I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?
I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?[/QUOTE]For Kamagra, the pharmacy next to Bully's pub. Been going there for years. The guy won't negotitiate much but the product is fine.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1635517]Angel witch and Windmill.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Windmill is on my regular route, but I will give Angel Witch a try tonight.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Otari;1635942]I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?
I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?[/QUOTE]To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1636113]To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.[/QUOTE]When in Bangkok I use the Pharmacy next to the Majestic Suites never had a problem with any of the products mentioned. I usually get the Cia Gel and Kamagra gel. 100 MG. Can't remember what I paid for see. But Kamagra it was 75 Baht since I only got 2 packs. Here is Pattaya I got a price for Kamagra G. Next to the old Fun house for 65 Baht a pack.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1636116]When in Bangkok I use the Pharmacy next to the Majestic Suites never had a problem with any of the products mentioned. I usually get the Cia Gel and Kamagra gel. 100 MG. Can't remember what I paid for see. But Kamagra it was 75 Baht since I only got 2 packs. Here is Pattaya I got a price for Kamagra G. Next to the old Fun house for 65 Baht a pack.[/QUOTE]That's the place I use in Pattaya. I have been going there for only about a year. The staff there very helpful. A few weeks ago, I took 2 buddies in there to get some things and the staff remembered me. The following week I went in to get something. They game me about a 100 baht discount.
It's been raining a lot over the past few days but the ladies are still plentiful. The other night I decided to head out very late. I went to some places on walking street where the FLs go. Many lovely ladies to choose from. I spoke to one sexy girl right after I ordered my first beer. She passed all the pre-qual questions with flying colors and I was thinking 'I should just take her'. However, since I had just arrived, I wanted to have a look around. I usually do not take the first girl I meet (at least not right away). This one was very nice, spoke well, and she had no obligations the next day which is important to me because I like to sleep in. I told her I just got there and I want to walk around a bit. She offered to come with me (smart girl). I politely declined. I sensed that she liked me or at least she didn't want to lose out if I found another girl. So off I went to look around. Had another beer or two or three and talked to a few other ladies that I thought looked good. I don't know where the time went but an hour or two had passed. I realized that I better go get my girl if I want her. Otherwise another lucky dude would grab her or she might leave. I went to get her and she was happy. Her friends seemed to be entertained with other guys (but not the one I liked). I took her away from the table and we moved to the other end of the bar / club. Now its a done deal and wouldn't you know all of a sudden I see more girls that I liked. I didn't see those honeys earlier. There is a sexy PYT (pretty young thing) to my left making discreet glances at me. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I told the PTY that I was busy tonight and I want to see her tomorrow. Maybe it was during some small talk since we were now sharing a little table with her. Anyway, right before we left, I opened my phone and passed it under my arm to the PYT. She turned her back, entered her #, and held the phone off to her side. I took it, called the number, hung up, and inconspicuously put it in my pocket. Off we go.
We go back to my place. Shower up and have a great time. She came about 4 times (damn she was horny). Then we slept. I kinda woke her up two hours later for round two. I say kinda because she was on her side sleeping so I just did her from the side. I finished and she kept on sleeping. I showered and went back to sleep. I think I got up after 2 pm and I wanted round three. I kissed her softly to wake her up and we went at it. She climbed on top and rode me good. She was going to cum and feeling her building up made me cum too. We finished at the same time. I tried to hold back because I wanted to get on top and enjoy it a little longer but I couldn't. Man she was good. We showered up, I made some coffee for us to enjoy, and we talked for awhile. She gave me her number and we also added our info to one of the free apps to talk later. I gave her some baht and told her I had some things to do. It was already after 5 pm.
The girl who passed me her number the night before had sent me a text earlier. She wanted to see me. But I was too tired (don't know why, wink). I told her I might come later or maybe tomorrow. She texted me again later and I called back so we can talk. I told her if I go there, I am only going for a beer and to say hello. I asked her what time she finishes work. She said 2 am. I said, ok if I want to take you to my room, it will be after work (this means no bar fine). She agreed. Since I did not go see her at her bar, she texted me again at 11.30 pm asking if I was going to come. I said no I'm relaxing now. Then about 1. 30 am another text asking if I was going to the bar / club again. Man she was trying to work me (or maybe rent is coming up soon? LOL). I declined and said not tonight. I needed a night off. And then following day was one of my regular's birthday so I spent the evening with her. Finally today I can go see the PYT.
[QUOTE=Otari;1635942]I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?[/QUOTE]Ask for Sidegra, it's a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate (same active ingredient as Viagra / Kamagra). The 4 x100 MG is 180 baht and 4 x50 MG is 100 baht. At that price point, there are no fakes, not much profit in that. Kamagra is good and cheap, but can be inconsistent in quality (even the packaging is inconsistent). The real thing (brand name Viagra / Cialis) may well be a good fake given the huge profit in passing off an expensive pill.
[QUOTE=Otari;1635942]I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for all your info about legitimate pharmacies selling products containing Sildenafil. It seems that most of you are buying such products in Bangkok and not in Pattaya. I got several tips for Bangkok, but for Pattaya I got only one recommendation (pharmacy close to Fun house). Does it mean that pharmacies are more reliable in Bangkok than in Pattaya?
My plan was to go form Suvarnabhumi airport directly to Pattaya then to Koh Samui, Hua Hin and finish in Bangkok before departure. For this trip I will need an important stock of good quality performance enhancing products. Would you advice to buy it in Bangkok? I'm flexible and in this case I could start with Bangkok, buy supply and that continue to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1636596]Ask for Sidegra, it's a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate (same active ingredient as Viagra / Kamagra). The 4 x100 MG is 180 baht and 4 x50 MG is 100 baht. At that price point, there are no fakes, not much profit in that. Kamagra is good and cheap, but can be inconsistent in quality (even the packaging is inconsistent). The real thing (brand name Viagra / Cialis) may well be a good fake given the huge profit in passing off an expensive pill.[/QUOTE]Thanks Crocodilexp. I didn't know about Sidegr. Is it the same as 'Thai Viagra'?
Do you have any tips how to find out form Kamagra packaging (for example a hologram on the packaging) if this is fake product or not?
Heads up for those traveling towards Pattaya on motorway 7, Chonburi motorway, from BKK. Avoid at all cost. I believe there is an alternate route, find out and make use of the alternate. Couple of weeks back myself and wingman endured 4 hrs of frustration due to roadworks which look to have no end in sight. Perhaps this has been mentioned before, this report serves as a reminder.
I think it is route 3 you want to travel?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1636113]To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.[/QUOTE]After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?
[QUOTE=Slaol;1636764]Heads up for those traveling towards Pattaya on motorway 7, Chonburi motorway, from BKK. Avoid at all cost. I believe there is an alternate route, find out and make use of the alternate. Couple of weeks back myself and wingman endured 4 hrs of frustration due to roadworks which look to have no end in sight. Perhaps this has been mentioned before, this report serves as a reminder.
I think it is route 3 you want to travel?[/QUOTE]Only problem is that if a Thai person is driving you they won't know what the hell you are talking about regarding the route numbers. My ex girlfriend has a condo on Pratumnak hill and there is a restaurant on the building's rooftop. They have one of the most spectacular views of the city. One night we were there and I saw the overpass lit up in the distance and asked if that was 7. Now she has a car and her friend who is a doctor was with us as well. They had no idea what I was talking about. When I finally got her to understand, she explained to me that Thai people don't know the highway numbers.
[QUOTE=Otari;1636751]Thank you very much ... [/QUOTE]You have to clear some messages from your pm inbox. You can't receive because you are full.
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1636783]After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?[/QUOTE]No problem what so ever. Least for me I have never had a problem.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1636887]You have to clear some messages from your pm inbox. You can't receive because you are full.[/QUOTE]Sorry for this. Done.
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1636783]After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?[/QUOTE]If one has the stuff bring your own? But in my opinion and experience of buying here I have never had a second thought about just going in any pharmacy and asking if you have so and so and if they do I buy never a hesitation unless the price is so out of line. As a rule of thumb just do not buy on the street from the vendors and you will be okay.
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1636783]After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?[/QUOTE]I have never had a problem in bringing these generics into thailand. Also, it's available for cheaper back in India, so why waste the extra baht. However, if the generics are more expensive in your home country than Thailamd, it would make more sense to buy locally in Thailand at one of the stores recommended by other board members.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1636558]
Finally today I can go see the PYT.[/QUOTE]How did that episode end?
I was in pattaya check out soi 6 Perry bar have the best looking girl spot TUK she is the hottest girl at soi 6 by far, she told me she only work 3 days a week have a aussie boyfriend hot body she want 4000 for LT 1300 inhouse will not budge no DATY only offer CBJ english is very good, she is from Chataburi 3 HR south of Pattaya it is low season now rain almost everyday many bar is empty.
Fast eddie 48.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1637056]How did that episode end?[/QUOTE]Didn't I tell you. LOL.
[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;1635513] I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.
[/QUOTE]Addition: Uncovered BJ from LB was on par to BJ from experieneced female provider.
Coming to Bangkok for a week so could anyone pm good freelancers providing BBBJ and how to link up with them.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633024]i can only say what works for me. i often walk up soi 6/1 at nighttime (often to avoid being spotted by a soi 6 girl i might have promised to visit), and when accosted by the gentlemen of the night a cheery greeting and a high five gets a smile. it's just a recognition that we both know it's all a bit of a game. they are not ogres or trolls and probably occasionally enjoy a laugh. on other occasions i have said slightly more irritably that 'i'm looking for a lady' and i don't think i have offended anyone.
sure you can google 'ladyboy assaults in pattaya' and get results. you can also google 'moon landing was a fake' and get results.[/QUOTE]Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. Things seemed to be happening in slow motion as I was dredging up fighting skills that had been long forgotten from my more formidable youth, and finally the war was won. I managed to start the bike and speed away from further harm but as I did another 5 pound high heal hit me squarely between my shoulder blades. I did sustain some minor injuries including scratches, and splinters from wooden chairs that had been demolished by my helmet and a few well placed blocks and kicks but luckily nothing serious. It could have been another front page story of the early demise of yet another farrang in pattaya.
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1637509]Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. [/QUOTE]LOL. Video?
Took a few days on my trip to Thailand and Pattaya has lived up to what I wanted.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1637509]Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan....
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine....
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.[/QUOTE]That's a good reason to stay away from the places that have LBs mixed in with the girls. They don't know how to stay away even when you are clearly not interested and busy getting to know the sweet girl working there.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1633277]Actually it is Second Road Soi 6, 7, 8. Beach Road has no sois officially.
If you ask a moto driver to take you to Beach Road Soi 6 he will be puzzled.[/QUOTE]I too am puzzled by this as there are the famous Soi running from 2nd Road in a Westerly direction (to and from Beach Road) and also also many alleys running in an Easterly direction off 2nd Road towards 3rd road / Soi BuaKhao etc.
[QUOTE=Otari;1636752]Do you have any tips how to find out form Kamagra packaging (for example a hologram on the packaging) if this is fake product or not?[/QUOTE]No. Actually, some years ago I tried to figure it out with the Kamagra jelly (by trial and error), but couldn't. I'm still not sure whether Kamagra fakes are around (seems unlikely given the low price, 60 baht per 100 MG jelly pack), or their production process just sucks. I was buying from 2 pharmacies in Bangkok, not the street, and it's even inconsistent at the same vendor. Sidegra (the Thai product) does not seem to have these problems, always works with roughly the same intensity.
Has any member been on board one of these Pattaya Booze Cruises? It seems a lot of fun at a reasonable price? I guess that some private time with one of the ladies aboard cost extra, but how much? Is there privacy provided?
[QUOTE=AwesomeMan;1637711]Has any member been on board one of these Pattaya Booze Cruises? It seems a lot of fun at a reasonable price? I guess that some private time with one of the ladies aboard cost extra, but how much? Is there privacy provided?[/QUOTE]You asking about this?
[URL]http://www.pattayaboozecruise.com/Home/welcome.html[/URL]
2000 baht for 4 hrs cruise to nowhere, food, and drink included. From looking at their Facebook pics, farang couples partake. After party continues at a GoGo. Youtube vid of pics: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIaSZMkGP0A[/URL].
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1637518]LOL. Video?[/QUOTE]I wish I had footage of that experience, just so I could see where they all came from. I should have checked you tube the following days, perhaps someone may have immortalized it.
LAT.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1637509]Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life..[/QUOTE]Loveasian,
The ladyboy boys in Thailand have a mental disorder. If you act like you are not into men they will only go after you harder. I always just smile and say no thank you. The mean looks don't work. The ladyboys will think nothing of breaking a bottle over your head or stabbing you in the eye with their high heels.
In this day and age I don't know where it came from but too many people have the attitude "what are they going to do?" Like the gay guy at the Texas airport this week when he refused to stop filming a guy. The guy started kicking and punching the guy with the camera. Its on youtube. If you put up a dare to someone be careful because they might accept it.
Some of the rules in Thailand. 1. Never get into a fight 2. Never get involved in a fight between two Thai's. I watched a Thai guy punching his girlfriend in public. Some American guy start punching the Thai guy sticking up for the Thai girl. The Thai girl picked up a beer bottle and cracked the guy in the face with it as she said don't hurt my boyfriend! The American guy was hurt really bad. It is a different mindset over there. Rule. 3 - Remember Thailand is a dream. Just a fantasy. Don't believe it is real. Don't bareback these girls! Don't send them money when you leave.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1637685]No. Actually, some years ago I tried to figure it out with the Kamagra jelly (by trial and error), but couldn't. I'm still not sure whether Kamagra fakes are around (seems unlikely given the low price, 60 baht per 100 MG jelly pack), or their production process just sucks. I was buying from 2 pharmacies in Bangkok, not the street, and it's even inconsistent at the same vendor. Sidegra (the Thai product) does not seem to have these problems, always works with roughly the same intensity.[/QUOTE]Thank you Crocodilexp. Do you know what the average price of Cialis is? It should be much more expensive than Kamagra / Sidegra and the chance of getting a fake are high, right?
[QUOTE=Otari;1637806]Do you know what the average price of Cialis is? It should be much more expensive than Kamagra / Sidegra and the chance of getting a fake are high, right?[/QUOTE]
Don't know the price for original Cialis (but then, how many "originals" are genuine?). There's a generic (made in India, I think), called Apcalis (same active ingredient, Tadalafil). I can't remember the exact price (it was a few years back when I used it), but my guess is it should cost 100-150 baht / pill (or 400-600 for a box of 4). Cialis (Tadalafil) tends to be slower to start, but lasting longer and tapering off more slowly than Viagra (Sildenafil citrate), up to 2 days (vs 4-6h for V). Good for that extended long-time.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1638165]Don't know the price for original Cialis (but then, how many "originals" are genuine?). There's a generic (made in India, I think), called Apcalis (same active ingredient, Tadalafil). I can't remember the exact price (it was a few years back when I used it), but my guess is it should cost 100-150 baht / pill (or 400-600 for a box of 4). Cialis (Tadalafil) tends to be slower to start, but lasting longer and tapering off more slowly than Viagra (Sildenafil citrate), up to 2 days (vs 4-6h for V). Good for that extended long-time.[/QUOTE]Wow, that is quite expensive in comparison (if it is the current market price). In India, the price for Tadalafil generics start at less than 50 baht for a box of 4 pills (10 MG dosage).
[QUOTE=PaulRob6366;1637655]I too am puzzled by this as there are the famous Soi running from 2nd Road in a Westerly direction (to and from Beach Road) and also also many alleys running in an Easterly direction off 2nd Road towards 3rd road / Soi BuaKhao etc.[/QUOTE]They all have different names so they can tell them apart.
But if you're puzzled because you don't know the logic behind it, you don't know how you can tell to which street a soi belongs, then I can't help you because I don't know that either. I only happened to know that Beach Road has no sois.
For example: Soi BuaKhao seems to be a (main) road on its own because they always refer to it as 'Soi BuaKhao' and not 'Central Pattaya Road Soi BuaKhao' or 'South Pattaya Road Soi BuaKhao'. I don't know why.
Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.
[QUOTE=ShyGuy69;1638526]Hello guys,
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
[/QUOTE]Ladyboys you fuck in the ass, lube required. Real pussy is warm and moist, more fun.
Also, with a LB, you might get cock slapped in your face.
Have a blast!
[QUOTE=ShyGuy69;1638526]Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.[/QUOTE]Ladyboys are generally taller and more good looing then thai girls.
Adams apple use to be a good sign but now surgery is available to suppress it.
The most reliable sign in my opinion are broad shoulders.
They are also generally more frisky.
If you speak to them you will notice hoarseness of voice.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1638648]Ladyboys are generally taller and more good looing then thai girls.
Adams apple use to be a good sign but now surgery is available to suppress it.
The most reliable sign in my opinion are broad shoulders.
They are also generally more frisky.
If you speak to them you will notice hoarseness of voice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1638541]Ladyboys you fuck in the ass, lube required. Real pussy is warm and moist, more fun.
Also, with a LB, you might get cock slapped in your face.
Have a blast![/QUOTE]Thanks guys, this is very helpful. Still need your help with:
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=ShyGuy69;1638652]
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1638656]1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.[/QUOTE]That would be an experience of the third kind (man, woman, {third kind, lady boy}) 555.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1637794]Loveasian,
The ladyboy boys in Thailand have a mental disorder. If you act like you are not into men they will only go after you harder. I always just smile and say no thank you. The mean looks don't work. The ladyboys will think nothing of breaking a bottle over your head or stabbing you in the eye with their high heels.
In this day and age I don't know where it came from but too many people have the attitude "what are they going to do?" Like the gay guy at the Texas airport this week when he refused to stop filming a guy. The guy started kicking and punching the guy with the camera. Its on youtube. If you put up a dare to someone be careful because they might accept it.
Some of the rules in Thailand. 1. Never get into a fight 2. Never get involved in a fight between two Thai's. I watched a Thai guy punching his girlfriend in public. Some American guy start punching the Thai guy sticking up for the Thai girl. The Thai girl picked up a beer bottle and cracked the guy in the face with it as she said don't hurt my boyfriend! The American guy was hurt really bad. It is a different mindset over there. Rule. 3 - Remember Thailand is a dream. Just a fantasy. Don't believe it is real. Don't bareback these girls! Don't send them money when you leave.[/QUOTE]Gee thanks tom, I've been going to thailand since 1974 but didn't know this LOL. No all joking aside thanks for the info, and I usually do just smile and say no thanks, but when someone grabs your your package with such intensity that it hurts I think that most people would respond with at least a look of shock. Either way most ladyboys would respond angrily from even a look of shock. Over the span of 40 years of traveling around south east asia this is the first time I've had this happen to me. But my point is, just know that the unexpected can happen no matter how you respond.
LAT.
[QUOTE=ShyGuy69;1638526]Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you can tell by the hands and feet being much bigger and the toes thicker. Lady boys (katoys) also usually sound like they are whining when they talk and are more aggressive in their demeanor. If they are wearing pants you can see an obviously different look to the pelvis. Also look for padded hips or unnatural looking hips, or no hips to speak of.
Deep voice isn't always an indication of man hood either. I had a thai girlfriend for several years who had a rather deep voice, even though she was 37 kilos and only 4'11" and believe me she was all woman.
Thai women also have the nicest round butts In MY Honest Opinion. Thai lady boys don't.
Happy hunting LAT.
[QUOTE=ShyGuy69;1638652]Thanks guys, this is very helpful. Still need your help with:
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]There is a rohn nuat (massage place) on soi 11 off 2nd road almost to the intersection with soi Buakhao. They have a sign that says "Thai 200 B; Oil 200 B, Foot 200 B" one one side and "Boom boom, blow job, hand job" on the other side (note the lack of prices). Never bothered to negotiate, but do that FIRST and then pay the agreed amount (IF you want to tip for better service, that's up to you) Myself, I do beach road and ask someone if they can do massage. Your rates are correct for beach road. IF you are good looking, you might be able to offer less, maybe 400. I have had some stay all night just to stay in air-con room, but I tell them that it's the same 500 B.
For a newbie, although you CAN do the go-gos, it gets what _I_ consider "paeng" (that's Thai for "expensive") and your chance of finding GFE is slim to none. All you are to them is a walking ATM. Anyway. That's my "song satang" (2 cents in Thai).
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1638313]Wow, that is quite expensive in comparison (if it is the current market price). In India, the price for Tadalafil generics start at less than 50 baht for a box of 4 pills (10 MG dosage).[/QUOTE]100-150/ pill was a price I found a few years back, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you could find generic Tadalafil for less in Thailand (though probably not under 60 baht / pill unless you're buying wholesale). Most of those are made in India, so it makes sense they'd be cheaper there. Importing them has a cost, especially since medicines like that are in a gray zone (not so illegal as to land you in prison for decades, but sufficiently gray area to warrant relevant bribes and connections).
Sidegra is the best deal at 25 baht / pill at 50 MG, or 45 baht / pill at 100 MG (box of 4). In Thailand, ED medicine prices vary wildly since customers are often clueless as to what they should cost (and sometimes clueless in general, plus shy to ask around).
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1638776]There is a rohn nuat (massage place) on soi 11 off 2nd road almost to the intersection with soi Buakhao. They have a sign that says "Thai 200 B; Oil 200 B, Foot 200 B" one one side and "Boom boom, blow job, hand job" on the other side (note the lack of prices). Never bothered to negotiate, but do that FIRST and then pay the agreed amount (IF you want to tip for better service, that's up to you) Myself, I do beach road and ask someone if they can do massage. Your rates are correct for beach road. IF you are good looking, you might be able to offer less, maybe 400. I have had some stay all night just to stay in air-con room, but I tell them that it's the same 500 B.
For a newbie, although you CAN do the go-gos, it gets what _I_ consider "paeng" (that's Thai for "expensive") and your chance of finding GFE is slim to none. All you are to them is a walking ATM. Anyway. That's my "song satang" (2 cents in Thai).[/QUOTE]Well put Dinghy.
Scary night walking Soi 6/1 last night. A very dark street with AGGRESSIVE ladyboys. They actually crossed the street to grab me and hold me while they made their offers. Not cool.
Day 1,
I leave BKK negotiate 900 baut trip to Pattaya include tolls. Usually they try to charge 1200-1500. A taxi guy agrees. He does not have a real taxi I find out latter. Too many jitni taxis. He tries to help me and put my bags in his truck. I say no thank you I want bags in bag with me. Anyway, he was driving there so fast if we went any faster we would have went back in time but that is Thai driving. At least no traffic. I told him to slow down but he pretend not to understand. Half way there we break down. We pull on on the side of the highway in the middle of no where. All I could tell was there was some sort of break problem. I wait 10 minutes for him to try to fix the problem. I grabbed my luggage next to me gave if 400 baut and told him sorry I am taking another taxi. IF I would have put my bags in truck noway would I have been able to escape. F- driving there with a brake problem. Its not worth my life. So I'm standing on the side of the highway trying to wave down a taxi. The taxis and the customers in the back of the taxis would all wave back at me me just to F- with me. I have one eye monitoring the broke down taxi driver so he does not sneak behind me and knife me. I try for 20 minutes to get a taxi. ALL of them are going to Pattaya anyway. One regular car sees me. Stops his car in the middle of the fricken highway. Parks his car get out and runs over to me. Says Pattaya. I say yes. He says lets go. He runs through the highway gets to his car and come and picks me up. I almost ran with him until he stopped me. What was I thinking? I could have gotten killed. I was thinking pussy in Pattaya that what. Anyway, I asked him how much he wants and he says up to me. So he gets me to Pattaya in 30 minutes and I gave him 400 baut. He was very happy.
I check in and get lunch for so fuel. Now its time for action. I take the bus down to the Big see mall. They have a ton of beer bars there. I find a girl I like and she wants 1000 short time plus 300 for room. I tell her 700 and 300 for room. She agrees. I tell her I want two girls. She goes out side and picks her hot friend. Both are like 20 years old. Both incredible bodies. To make a long story short. It was not really that good. It is always better to bang one. Have her leave then have a session with the other one. Changing condoms so many times between girls just kills the mood and is a hassle. I did do two other short times after that. So I went through 4 girls. I was tired and ready to pass out. It was only 9 pm. LOL. As I was walking back to my hotel I seen this bar girl that was incredible. Looked 21 but she was 25. She had a bubble ass and large see cup popping out her shirt. I was actually sexually burned out and sex was the last think that I was thinking about. But, in thailand what regulars will tell you. IF you see a girl you like grab her now. Because she will be gone tomorrow. I walk up to her and ask her how much for a short time. She says 1000 plus 350 bar fine. I tell her 700 plus bar fine. She hesitates butI talk her into it.
We go back to my room. I tell her lets shower together. She says no. So I shower then she showers. She finally comes out and would not let me remove her towel. Sometimes you find a bar girl that will act like a virgin. So I talk her into letting me massage her she still won't remove the towel. Finally I warm her up and get it off. I grab the condom. We are facing each other sitting of bed. I give her lube and tell her to start with a HJ. She reluctantly agrees. Then she tries to kiss me and stick her tongue in my mouth. I turn away and tell her I don't like kiss. We do all positions. She says you said you wanted short time but you really want long time. I ask her how much is long time? She says 2000 baut. I tell her I can only give 1000 for long time. She did not say anything but stayed over night. Around 11 pm I was so tired I just wanted to sleep but she was wide awake. She would not let me sleep and we F- again. She was highly offended I would not kiss her lips. I saw latter in the night night she did have a cold sore behind her lip that was very small. Good thing I did not kiss or do BBBJ. Exactly because I expect that. In the first few hours I felt like we were husband and wife. Theses girls can make the connection fast. The next day I wanted time to myself but she wanted to go to the beach with me. I took her for breakfast and then told her I had work to do. She made a date with me at 9 pm at her bar because she wants to hang out more. I will not show. I did not have the heart to tell her our time was over. I feel so guilty. But too many woman here. But I did bang her 3-4 times for 700 baut. Great deal. I did want to kiss that sweet girl all night long.
Pattaya has a decent amount of girls. Not so many guys at the beer bars. Still has alot our tourists just bars not that full. It rains briefly everyday. Always carry and umbrella.
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1639070]Scary night walking Soi 6/1 last night. A very dark street with AGGRESSIVE ladyboys. They actually crossed the street to grab me and hold me while they made their offers. Not cool.[/QUOTE]Moral of the story, stay off Soi 6/1. LOL.
I went as a newbie; Beach Road, FL, between 500-700 baht / go in your hotel room, pussy, anal, CIM, threesome, GFE. You can get literally whatever you want.
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1639275]I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, its unfortunate that they didn't return the 300 baht, they should have returned it (it would be the decent thing to do) given that the girl behaved in a shitty way and didn't serve you. But at least you got back 1,000 baht, I have had a case in the past of no boom boom and no refund (from a Go-Go).
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1639275]I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?[/QUOTE]For 1000 BTH you would get a freelancer, what's the point to get a bar lady for 1000 + 300 BTH?
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1639275]I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?[/QUOTE]Commonglass,
She was drugged out that was the first red flag. You where actually lucky to get that 1000 back. There are no refunds in Thailand usually.
Thanks for reporting, Commonglass. Lisa Bar is clearly a place to avoid!
My brief experience of Soi6 bars was you pay 300 baht for the room up front, but only pay for the girl afterwards, 700 to 1000 baht. So in that case you wouldn't of had to even ask for the 1000 back. I think you have to just forego the room charge and put it down as a bad experience. From what I understand Soi6 is generally a good place and reasonably consistent. I'll be exploring again in December.
Ok, I am not going to do a blow by blow girl by girl. Unless it is a crazy experience. I had a chance to do a lot of walking yesterday and wanted to post the current Pattaya situation. It does rain here for a short time every day. Which is nothing and just part of being here. The rain is not even bad. If you compare it too the rainy season in Pattaya like in September. Now that is bad and like a rain from hell. There are a lot of tourist here. But they all basically go to the beach street walk where the beach ends. I went there last night. Too many people and too much noise.
On beach street there is not nearly as many freelancers as there was 3 years ago. The last 3 years I noticed more and more international girls working on beach street. You had the Russian girls, the black chicks. But now there are no more Russians anywhere that are working girls. I saw 3 black girls working last night total. In Bangkok the black chicks disappeared as well. There had to be some clean up by the Thai government.
The beer bars are slow. The gogo seem to be busy. I went into agogo last last. I liked a girl and ask what the cost was for her and bar fine. She wants 2000 Baut and the bar fine is 800 and this is short time. F- that I left immediately.
I been going to pick up girls at the beer bars and little massage places. They all start washing for 1000 baut. I say 700 and they always agree with the exception of one. I have been having a great time. Not too many people where I stay and just the right amount of girl selection. I will say nothing like the amount of girls that was here 10 years ago. Even 10 years ago. What happened? Did the put Obama in charge of the tourist industry here?
I've been to Lisa Bar several time and never had any kind of trouble. In fact, Lisa Bar is my favourite Place at Soi 6, both for drinking and for P4 P. Very nice and clean rooms upstairs, I could live there if it wasn't for the shared bathroom. Girls always friendly and nice, but I Always pick Salaa. 300 baht for room and 1000 for her. I'm going there again on my next visit to Pattaya in February, that's for sure.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1639382]
I been going to pick up girls at the beer bars and little massage places. They all start washing for 1000 baut. I say 700 and they always agree with the exception of one. I have been having a great time. Not too many people where I stay and just the right amount of girl selection. [/QUOTE]Were this soapy massages? Can you recommend some places?
Are there some nuru massages in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Otari;1639481]Were this soapy massages? Can you recommend some places?
Are there some nuru massages in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]No soapy massages are only done in the high class massage places. Prices start at 1500 baut. In Bangkok soapy massages are starting more around 2500 baut. I like honey massage on Soi 11 in Pattaya. When you go into these places including Honey massage ask the price before you sit down. Act like you are not sure you are going to stay. If you go in there with a big smile on your face like it is your first time. They will charge you 2300-2500 baut. This is because the can smell you are a sucker. I noticed there is not really a set price. That is way you don't see any price list anywhere. There is not even prices for the drinks. Gee I wonder why that is? If I remember correctly when I went last year. They wanted 1500 and I told them I paid 1300 last time they said OK. As you walk in one of the male hosts will try to get you to sit down as fast as possible. They will then ask you if you would like a drink. The casual way they do it makes you feel they are your friend hooking you up. But you will be charged for everything. Do not be a sucker and accept the drink without asking the cost of the drinks. The manager will hike up the drink cost and pocket the money. They will even be so kind as to help you choose the girl. There are two sides of girls. Both different prices. If you don't see a girl you like just leave. There are soapys everywhere.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1637509]Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. Things seemed to be happening in slow motion as I was dredging up fighting skills that had been long forgotten from my more formidable youth, and finally the war was won. I managed to start the bike and speed away from further harm but as I did another 5 pound high heal hit me squarely between my shoulder blades. I did sustain some minor injuries including scratches, and splinters from wooden chairs that had been demolished by my helmet and a few well placed blocks and kicks but luckily nothing serious. It could have been another front page story of the early demise of yet another farrang in pattaya.
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.[/QUOTE]That sounds pretty grim. The only vaguely similar experience that I have had was resolved by the mamasan intervening. Cost me a few hundred Baht to walk away from some trouble, but luckily no organic damage. Anyway, clearly if that was your experience then you are right to warn people.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1638656]1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.[/QUOTE]You haven't mentioned my favourite: Ruby Club.
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1639275]I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?[/QUOTE]I've been there and done that. You won't get the 300 Baht back. If you were in the West a legal mind would argue that there were two contracts: one with the bar for a room, and one with the girl for a fuck. The girl defaulted, the bar did not. Not their fault that you only used the room for 2 minutes.
[QUOTE=Otari;1639312]For 1000 BTH you would get a freelancer, what's the point to get a bar lady for 1000 + 300 BTH?[/QUOTE]Because you think that the bar girl is incredibly sexy and you have to have her whatever the price? One of a thousand reasons why you might want to take a girl from a bar or a gogo or a club or a massage parlour, etc etc.
I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before. Do freelancers in Pattaya (I see that the price is similar to soi 6 bars - 1000 BTH for ST) the same?
Slept till 11 am so I was fully charged. Headed to Top Market on 369/1 Moo 9 Tumbol Nongpru Amphur Banglamung Chonburi 20260. This place has a great food court and hot meals ready to go. A year ago they had a much better selection of hot foods take away. I don't know why the selection is so small now. I headed to Soi 6 not a far walk from the market. This is the best place to go for a nooner I have found. It was around 1 pm so there was about 70 girls to choose from. In the evening there are more like 120. I went through 3 different girls I picked at the bars. All beautiful. Two had vagina so big I could not feel anything. I asked how long one was working and she said she has been there for 6 months. That makes sense. The third girl however was thicker with DD's. Nice and tight and we went at it for an hour. No rush at all. I did notice every day the girls on Soi 6 seem to change. New girls come in everyday and old girls leave. All 20-25 years old.
The beach street has some girls out around 4 pm. But the selection was weak.
3 years ago and before that. There would be actually hundreds of girls on one street that would form a line so you could not get away. 8 girls at a time would all grab you. Those day appear to be over. But still many girl here. Lots of fun. I had my first Thai massage with two girls at the same time. It was unreal. I ask for sex and they said they did not do that there. It did appear to be legit. The girl was rocking back and forth over my back around my hand. I stuck my finger out and towards her pussy and she continued to rock. Maybe she fought it was all just an accident. But I did try again to get her for short time and she said no. LOL.
Lots of great artwork on the street next to Mikes Shopping center. I definitely want to by some paintings very reasonable. Now shipping is a different story. Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.
[QUOTE=Otari;1639852]I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before.[/QUOTE]In Soi 6 you make your own arrangement with the girl, which in 99% of the time is 700 or 1000 bht for 1 shot. The girls would be surprised by anything else, but nothing is impossible. The difference with say Tulip is that the girls there are hired by the hour, so will happily chat or snooze or give you a massage to fill the time. In Soi 6, after your shot, the girl will be thinking that it's time to go downstairs, either for the next customer, or to party or drink with her friends.
A better alternative might be to barfine the girl (perhaps 500bht?) and take her back to your room for a more relaxed session. But to be honest, Soi 6 isn't about relaxed lovemaking.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1639911]Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.[/QUOTE]Or you could try closing the windows and turning on the air con. Never once have I been bitten by a mosquito in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Otari;1639852]I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before. Do freelancers in Pattaya (I see that the price is similar to soi 6 bars - 1000 BTH for ST) the same?[/QUOTE]To Otari.
This is one shot only you can also do take out for one HR back to hotel some girl will not go outside, you can offer 500 bht more for a 2nd shot you can also get all nighter depend on the time most girl will charge 2000 bht after midnight til morning, if you want multi shots just ask the girl upfront for LT, don't compare soi 6 bar to Tulip you don't get the same service here for 1300 bht.
Fast eddie 48.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1640124]To Tom.
So when is the last time you are in Pattaya 3 yr ago or 10 yr ago Top market at central pattaya remodel 5 yr ago they don't have the grilling station that grill seafood or steak anymore only the Deli avalible, food court is still there but no business after central festival mall food court open.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Since we are on the topic of food. My last trip in March -.
The top floor (5?) of Mike's Mall has a remodelled food court. Not the selection or quality of Central floors (3-5) but clean, fast & fills need for cheap snack.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1640076]Or you could try closing the windows and turning on the air con. Never once have I been bitten by a mosquito in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.
Team,
I am staying near Mikes shopping Mall. Is there any weight lifting gym someone can recommend near this area?
[QUOTE=TomSf;1639911]Lots of great artwork on the street next to Mikes Shopping center. I definitely want to by some paintings very reasonable. Now shipping is a different story. [/QUOTE]You take it off the wooden frame and roll it up to travel with it then you have it framed for hanging when you get home.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640159]Team,
I am staying near Mikes shopping Mall. Is there any weight lifting gym someone can recommend near this area?[/QUOTE]I found Tonys gym. About 15 minute walk from Mikes. What is strange is there are actually two Mikes gyms 100 feet from each other. One inside and one outside which is better. Both are part of same gym. After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.
Started with a nooner. First two girls were not good when The took off there cloths. Latter in the day picked up 2 more on same street as Honey Body massage cross street is second road. The girls change everyday or do long time with customers so always new girls. The last 2 had incredible bodies. The last one I picked up wanted 1000 baut. I talked her down to 700 her English was excellent. When I go pay. The manager wanted 300 bar fine plus 200 for the room. F- that. I told her I would just pay the bar fine and take her to my room. This chick was gogo girl hot 21 years old. We get back to my room. It was very rushed and she even was asking me to hurry up and cum now she wants to eat. WTF? Glad I did not agree to 1000 baut. Anyway, after we shower and she gets ready to leave I give her 700 baut as agreed before. She starts with its 1000 baut. I tell her we agreed on 700 and say she rush me the whole time. She popped out a big smile on her face and busted out laughing. She realized I was not a sucker and was not going to fall for her Bull S.
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640318]
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.[/QUOTE]Good advice, thanks. Something I need to learn quicker, the hustle is always on, just need to be able to say NO.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1639911]Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.[/QUOTE]I recommend to take Malarone to be sure that you will not get malaria. It's quite expensive but it works well. You can take it as preventive (1 pill a day) or as a treatment in case you get malaria (3 days 4 pills a day).
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1640075]A better alternative might be to barfine the girl (perhaps 500bht?) and take her back to your room for a more relaxed session. But to be honest, Soi 6 isn't about relaxed lovemaking.[/QUOTE]Mouse1 and Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for advice.
I understood Soi 6 means: 1300 BTH = 1 hour = 1 shot, right? Does the same rule applies in general for ST freelances / bar girls? Or this is up to negotiations for example 1000 BTH = 2-3 hours = multiple shots?
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640318]I talked her down to 700 her English was excellent. When I go pay. The manager wanted 300 bar fine plus 200 for the room. F- that. I told her I would just pay the bar fine and take her to my room. This chick was gogo girl hot 21 years old. We get back to my room. It was very rushed and she even was asking me to hurry up and cum now she wants to eat. WTF? Glad I did not agree to 1000 baut. Anyway, after we shower and she gets ready to leave I give her 700 baut as agreed before. She starts with its 1000 baut. I tell her we agreed on 700 and say she rush me the whole time. She popped out a big smile on her face and busted out laughing. She realized I was not a sucker and was not going to fall for her Bull S.
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.[/QUOTE]Good for you. Good advice for others as well.
Not only did the girl try to get you for an extra 300, the lady at the shop tried too when she asked for 200 more. Even if you were going to do the girl upstairs, the 300 baht you gave for the barfine covers the room.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640231]I found Tonys gym. About 15 minute walk from Mikes. What is strange is there are actually two Mikes gyms 100 feet from each other. One inside and one outside which is better. Both are part of same gym. After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=David2;1640481]Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's the one on Soi Bukhao. From Soi Honey / Soi11, head North on Soi Bukhao about 300 m and you will find it on the left side (near the are-Con beer bars and the market).
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640231]After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Tony's gym on 3rd Road near Pattaya Tai is indoor and has AC but the price is much higher than the other two you mentioned. There is another one right at the intersection of 3rd Road/Pattaya Tai but that one is only for Thais and is uncovered/outdoors.
[QUOTE=David2;1640481]Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I originally wanted to go to Powerhouse Gym at 139 Moo 10 Soi 16, Walking Street, Pattaya, Bang Lamung, Walking Street. Pattaya, Pattaya, 20150. It is supposed to be right off walking street. I just could not find it. After 40 minutes of searching in the heat. I asked a motor bike to take me to the gym and he took me to Tonys Gym. From where I was an the direction he took me the gym was most likely Moo 12, Thappraya Road, Jomtien, Bang Lamung, Jomtien, Pattaya, 20150.
The are gyms in Pattaya but they all seem to be outside the tourist areas. Tonys gym was about a 20 minute walk from Mikes Shopping center. But, because there are a couple of them you have to find one that is closest to you.
[QUOTE=Otari;1640470]I recommend to take Malarone to be sure that you will not get malaria. It's quite expensive but it works well. You can take it as preventive (1 pill a day) or as a treatment in case you get malaria (3 days 4 pills a day).[/QUOTE]You don't need malaria pills in Thailand and certainly not in cities like Bangkok or Pattaya. If you get bitten a lot you can use a spray (with DEET if you want), that's all you need.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640158]Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.[/QUOTE]Maybe you just don't have enough stress? Scientists think there might be a relation between stress and mosquitoes. When you're stressed-out your body produces chemicals that the bugs don't like.
[URL]http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204660604574378933761528214[/URL]
Although I have to say that in my experience I get bitten MORE when I'm stressed-out. But maybe that's just a coincidence.
[QUOTE=Otari;1640473]Mouse1 and Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for advice.
I understood Soi 6 means: 1300 BTH = 1 hour = 1 shot, right? Does the same rule applies in general for ST freelances / bar girls? Or this is up to negotiations for example 1000 BTH = 2-3 hours = multiple shots?[/QUOTE]Soi 6: in most places the charge is now 300 bht for the room and 1000 bht for the girl. It used to be 700 bht for the girl, but the 1000 bht price seems to be more common now. Having said that, if you offer 700 bht you may well be accepted, particularly if it early in the day, or it is quiet for other reasons. For that you get 1 shot.
You could probably negotiate for more, but frankly you wouldn't necessarily want to sit around in a short time room waiting to recharge. Best to have one shot then go find another girl if you have the power.
With most girls, freelancers or bar-girls, it's either ST or LT, and it might be hard to explain what you want otherwise. But money talks, and you can get anything for the right price. That price will depend on the girl, and her expectations.
In real terms, the prices are low, and frankly you can afford to 'waste' money. I met a girl last visit in Soi 6 at 11 am, when I really had 'no power' after a hard night. But I thought, what the heck. We agreed 300 + 700 bht, went upstairs and had a nice time, although she had to work harder than she anticipated, finishing off with a nice BBBJCIM. Everyone was a winner!
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1640647]You don't need malaria pills in Thailand and certainly not in cities like Bangkok or Pattaya. If you get bitten a lot you can use a spray (with DEET if you want), that's all you need.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It would be crazy to take anti-malarials if you don't need to. I repeat that I have never been bitten by a mossie in Pattaya, but a few places where there is greenery and water you often get some savage midges.
In Pattaya the last thing you need to worry about is Malaria? Dengue Fever!
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640158]Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.[/QUOTE]I have a mosquito stick I bought many years ago in Alaska, the land of mosquitoes. I don't think you can get them any more but the main ingredient is ammonia, and it works in seconds to take away the itch. You might give it a try, all you do is dab a little on the fresh bite. I hope it works for you.
LAT.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1640861]I have a mosquito stick I bought many years ago in Alaska, the land of mosquitoes. I don't think you can get them any more but the main ingredient is ammonia, and it works in seconds to take away the itch. You might give it a try, all you do is dab a little on the fresh bite. I hope it works for you.
LAT.[/QUOTE]They are in stores in the states. Drug stores, Walmart, etc. Ammonia and camphor. I always keep one in my toiletry bag.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640868]They are in stores in the states. Drug stores, Walmart, etc. Ammonia and camphor. I always keep one in my toiletry bag.[/QUOTE]Small dab of Tiger balm on a bite works equally well. With the added bonus of keeping the rest of the biting gang far away.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1640983]Small dab of Tiger balm on a bite works equally well. [/QUOTE]Of course, since the main ingredients of Tiger Balm are camphor and menthol. Both work as a mild analgesic.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1640983]With the added bonus of keeping the rest of the biting gang far away.[/QUOTE]That is less certain. Most of the "smelly" anti-mosquito products have, upon scientific tests, no effect whatsoever or the effect is limited to the immediate part of your skin where it was applied to. Mosquito's are attracted to you by certain elements in the smell of your sweat. Hence, like a true hunter they fly upwind to you and bite you. The very few effective products confuse the mosquito's sense of smell or masquerade your smell. DEET is one of those rare products.
None of the Tiger Balm components are known to have that effect. There is a Tiger Balm Mosquito Repellent product that adds citronella as the repellent. Unfortunately citronella has no effect on mosquitoes, although it does work for other flying pests, such as little flies.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1640997]Of course, since the main ingredients of Tiger Balm are camphor and menthol. Both work as a mild analgesic.
That is less certain. Most of the "smelly" anti-mosquito products have, upon scientific tests, no effect whatsoever or the effect is limited to the immediate part of your skin where it was applied to. Mosquito's are attracted to you by certain elements in the smell of your sweat. Hence, like a true hunter they fly upwind to you and bite you. The very few effective products confuse the mosquito's sense of smell or masquerade your smell. DEET is one of those rare products.
None of the Tiger Balm components are known to have that effect. There is a Tiger Balm Mosquito Repellent product that adds citronella as the repellent. Unfortunately citronella has no effect on mosquitoes, although it does work for other flying pests, such as little flies.[/QUOTE]High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells. That's what I do anyway just for shits and grins. It seems to work well though and I'm not bothered by the nasty little critters so much. Long pants and shoes with socks also helps to keep the ankle biters away when you are sitting outdoors eating a nice meal. I can usually detect and destroy the little biotches before they land on me above the waist. It is the females who do all the blood sucking, just like in human life experiences LOL. They take your blood and coat their eggs with it to feed them the necessary protein to develop yet even more blood suckers.
when you sleep just leave your ceiling fan on and make sure you feel the gentle breeze on any exposed body parts. mosquitoes can't sustain flight in breezy conditions so they tend to just stay away from them.
hope this info helps, now let's get back to discussing pussy ha ha LAT
It took my like 5 days to get adjust to the time difference. Now I can stay up till very late. The independents on beach street are not fully out until 11 pm. You will see a few out relier in the day and it will start to really build around 7 pm. With everyone out by 11 pm. I found a couple diamonds. The hottest girl are grabbed fast and it is just luck. One girl I found was 19 rail thin with a black chicks bubble ass. I am so upset I did not get her number. It was incredible and only 700 baut.
I am going to try to concentrate on more independents now. At some of the bars they charge 350 to use the bar bedrooms when the bar right next to it will charge only 200. I am going to start boycotting places that over charge out of principle to keep cost down for everyone. Otherwise cost will continue to rise. I found there is no difference between the bar girls and independents except the independents are half the cost. You just have to work harder to find them.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1641006]High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells. That's what I do anyway just for shits and grins. It seems to work well though and I'm not bothered by the nasty little critters so much. Long pants and shoes with socks also helps to keep the ankle biters away when you are sitting outdoors eating a nice meal. I can usually detect and destroy the little biotches before they land on me above the waist. It is the females who do all the blood sucking, just like in human life experiences LOL. They take your blood and coat their eggs with it to feed them the necessary protein to develop yet even more blood suckers.
when you sleep just leave your ceiling fan on and make sure you feel the gentle breeze on any exposed body parts. mosquitoes can't sustain flight in breezy conditions so they tend to just stay away from them.
hope this info helps, now let's get back to discussing pussy ha ha LAT[/QUOTE]I was told a number of years ago about be-12 from a Doctor who use to work in the tropics. She told me about be-12 for Mosquitoes and it's other benefits. I've been taking 1 tablet a day 2500 MG for a number of years and as for me it seem to work. I do not wear long pants and short 100% of the time and shoe and socks only when I club or Go. Go. Out here in the Darkside away from the City, Hotels and such the black mosquitoes are all over the place and after all these years I could feel their bite and I just look at them to see how much I can take and when I flick them away I don't welt up or even feel a itch after.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1641006]High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells.[/QUOTE]"Supposedly" but a 2005 study laid that claim to rest ([URL]http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6390/is-vitamin-b12-an-effective-mosquito-repellent[/URL] [URL]http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2987/8756-971X%282005%2921%5B213%3aTVBAAH%5D2.0.CO;2[/URL]) and although further research was suggested it did not seem to have happened. You can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a tiny shred of even doubtful evidence that (any) vitamin works as a mosquito repellent, it would be all over us on the Internet, sponsored by the vitamin-supplement industry.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1641080]Out here in the Darkside away from the City, Hotels and such the black mosquitoes are all over the place and after all these years I could feel their bite and I just look at them to see how much I can take and when I flick them away I don't welt up or even feel a itch after.[/QUOTE]They still bite you, so B12 is not effective as a repellent.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1641128]They still bite you, so B12 is not effective as a repellent.[/QUOTE]Correct they do bite you, I just do not welt up or itch. I can actually see and feel them biting and when I had enough I just smack the shit out of them. I've been to some real dump Thai places to eat and even sleep with Thais and they are complaining about Mosquitoes biting them. If they hadn't mention it I would not have know?
As for Malaria, there are hundred of cases in Pattaya (Chon Buri) regarding Dengue Fever each year that the City officials keep under the wrap because they want the tourist to keep on coming. Never put any stuff on I don't even think about it I just go on my daily stuff everyday. But I see some tourist from time to time as if the mosquitoes had a buffet on their leg?
[QUOTE=TomSf;1639911] Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.[/QUOTE]I spent over 2 weeks in Thailand, half in Bangkok and the other half in Pattaya and can't remember ever getting bit by mosquitoes. Two different hotels, neither had issues with mosquitoes at night, but neither hotel had balcony's or windows to open that would let in the bugs. So have to wonder if your staying at hotels that have balconys and not keeping the door shut? And not sure how a sleeping net would work with a cute Thai girl curled up next to you, it would ruin the mood for some late night booty call.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1641245]I spent over 2 weeks in Thailand, half in Bangkok and the other half in Pattaya and can't remember ever getting bit by mosquitoes. Two different hotels, neither had issues with mosquitoes at night, but neither hotel had balcony's or windows to open that would let in the bugs. So have to wonder if your staying at hotels that have balconys and not keeping the door shut? And not sure how a sleeping net would work with a cute Thai girl curled up next to you, it would ruin the mood for some late night booty call.[/QUOTE]The whole idea of a sleeping net is that it hangs over the sides of the bed and does not touch you, because then the mosquitoes can still reach you. So both you and your darling are both safely inside of the same net. Ain't that soooo romantic?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1641259]The whole idea of a sleeping net is that it hangs over the sides of the bed and does not touch you, So both you and your darling are both safely inside Ain't that soooo romantic?[/QUOTE]YES, it is. :D
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1641313]YES, it is. :D[/QUOTE]OK two days plus of talking about mosquitos and mosquito shit is enough. Anyone got anything to say about bars, Massage parlors or women?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1641080] Out here in the [B]Darkside[/B] away from the City, Hotels ...[/QUOTE]Going beyond the discussion on mosquitoes in Pattaya (if that's OK with all :D), I wanted to know a little more about the darkside. I have read about the bars / FLs in that area elsewhere (but it wasn't too informative), but would be grateful if someone could provide more information on how to get there, the recommended bars (if any) in this area and the charges in this part of town (or is it dead to any kind of action)? AFAIK no one has yet posted a report on this part of town.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1641009]
.... I am going to start boycotting places that over charge out of principle to keep cost down for everyone. Otherwise cost will continue to rise. I found there is no difference between the bar girls and independents except the independents are half the cost. You just have to work harder to find them.[/QUOTE]One man's struggle to control prices, commendable. Generally, I quite agree, the arbitrary nature of bar fine / room usage charge doesn't make a lot of sense.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1641453]Going beyond the discussion on mosquitoes in Pattaya (if that's OK with all :D), I wanted to know a little more about the darkside. I have read about the bars / FLs in that area elsewhere (but it wasn't too informative), but would be grateful if someone could provide more information on how to get there, the recommended bars (if any) in this area and the charges in this part of town (or is it dead to any kind of action)? AFAIK no one has yet posted a report on this part of town.[/QUOTE]There's a very good reason why you won't find a lot of info on this forum about the so-called "dark-side" or, if you will, the under belly of Pattaya. It's because there isn't much good to say about the place. You can get there by going east and crossing Sukhumvit Road. As a rule of thumb you can rely on the fact that the farther East you go in Pattaya the cheaper and less desirable are the accommodations and amenities that the city has to offer.
You can rent a room on the dark side, for example, for as little as 2000 baht per month or even less. Think about it; that's about $2 USD per day for a room. Imagine what you get for that kind of money? The dark side is where the low budget farang expats go to live. That's where you'll find the majority of dishonest, backstabbing, unsavory, often violent characters mentioned on the forum by guys like Goatscrot who don't like Pattaya. The place is a magnet for them. It's also where the low life Thai's live, the kind of Thai folks you probably don't want to meet on your holiday in Pattaya.
There are many bars on the dark side but they don't exactly cater to guys looking for entertainment featuring pretty girls. The dark side is where the Beach Road hookers go when they can no longer find paying customers on Beach Road. You can find bar girls but they are almost always either old or unattractive or both. A low budget tourist or expat can find cheap sex and cheap accommodations there but you get what you pay for. Yes, you can find action but it's depressing to say the least.
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no!
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1641499]
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no![/QUOTE]Many thanks for the report Daddy07, very informative and helpful in clarifying for any one wishing to explore this area. Thankfully, I will not entertain those thoughts anymore based on your inputs.
The report on the Darkside is not exactly the way it is being told although the bar scene is very true. What is not exactly true is no one area in Pattaya has a exclusive right to being be back stabbers etc. I know and met many of these people being mentioned all over Pattaya including Jomtien. In fact, many of the falangs leaders who poses as legit business people live in the main part of town. You can go in the L. K. Metro area and find plenty of rooms at 2,000 baht, plenty around Pattaya Tai, and plenty just off Jomtien Beach toward Chaiyaipruk. Much of Jomtien Russian mafia resides in that area. When you turn on the news and hear about all the so call accidents people falling off hotels and condo being killed one wonders where the desirable live. In the end, people of all kinds live everywhere and as noted on the Darkside too.
The Darkside has populated area's but the further you go out when you drive the more land there is it goes on and on like forever. Some of the riches people including Falangs live out here. The Siam Country Club a world respected golf course is out here. The massive Thai Polo Club is out here and the owner is a Billionaire. Many of the houses out here go for tens of millions. And sure there is violence but look at the T. V. Reports and Falang Newspaper and most of the problems are in the tourist area. Yes it is cheaper accommodation out here but not everything is a dump and yes people who do not own reside because you get more for your Baht of course that is a individual opinion.
As for the Bars as noted. It is not worth the time or the money to come. Most of them are fresh off the farm and do not know what they are doing and the others old and fat. Once in a while you get a stunner because they do not like the scene in town and they get snapped up right away and sponsor? It is very spotted and Bar open today and close tomorrow as noted not worth the time unless you know how to get around on a bike. And believe it or not many girls I know that work in Go Go on W. S. Live on the Darkside. Darkside is the name of the place but people with Dark hearts and being cheap and unreasonable come from all walks of life and living on the brightside, Jomtien Beach or Wong Amat Beach does not make a bad person Good!
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1641499]There's a very good reason why you won't find a lot of info on this forum about the so-called "dark-side" or, if you will, the under belly of Pattaya. It's because there isn't much good to say about the place. You can get there by going east and crossing Sukhumvit Road. As a rule of thumb you can rely on the fact that the farther East you go in Pattaya the cheaper and less desirable are the accommodations and amenities that the city has to offer.
You can rent a room on the dark side, for example, for as little as 2000 baht per month or even less. Think about it; that's about $2 USD per day for a room. Imagine what you get for that kind of money? The dark side is where the low budget farang expats go to live. That's where you'll find the majority of dishonest, backstabbing, unsavory, often violent characters mentioned on the forum by guys like Goatscrot who don't like Pattaya. The place is a magnet for them. It's also where the low life Thai's live, the kind of Thai folks you probably don't want to meet on your holiday in Pattaya.
There are many bars on the dark side but they don't exactly cater to guys looking for entertainment featuring pretty girls. The dark side is where the Beach Road hookers go when they can no longer find paying customers on Beach Road. You can find bar girls but they are almost always either old or unattractive or both. A low budget tourist or expat can find cheap sex and cheap accommodations there but you get what you pay for. Yes, you can find action but it's depressing to say the least.
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no![/QUOTE]The last time I was in pattaya I had my first "dark side" experience. It was near the end of my stay so I could only make it there twice. I would agree somewhat with you about quality, but not completely. I went early in the afternoon so the action was slow but I still managed to find a ruby, not a diamond mind you, but a ruby. Although she was not your typical thai spinner, the body type I usually enjoy, she still had a nice firm body and was GFE for the short time we had together in the room upstairs. BBBJ morphing into 69 all positions including a cock ripping cowgirl, (she was so into it that she almost sheared my cock off) LOL ok maybe that's an exaggeration, but you get the picture. Not once did she complain about how long it was taking, she just enjoyed it. I could only make it back to see her one more time, because my girlfriend decided to take the last 4 days of my stay off from her massage job so she could spend them with me.
I found the atmosphere on the dark side to be much more relaxed, I had to ask her if she wanted a drink, with less pressure from mama to make the deal so to speak.
Total price as I remember was 800 THB, 200 THB for the room and 600 THB for the thai pooying. She of course asked for the bright side prices but I lied, (yeah I know, now I'm not going to heaven LOL) and told her all I had was 800 total. She accepted that as if it were a usual amount anyway and off we went to the st room.
Perhaps it did help that I was probably her first cutomer. Most thais won't let first cutomers get away as it's bad luck. I'm sure it helped that I speak enough thai to flirt with her a little and joke, but not necessary. Most thais in the industry know enough tinglish to get the money part completed anyway.
Will I go back to the dark side? Not just yes but Hell yes LOL. Is it for everyone? That would depend on your confidence and ability to survive an unknown experience. Personally I'm an explorer anyway and the dark side was just another venue to " RELEASE THE KRAKEN [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2zIR2rvRQ[/URL] " and let him have his way with another thai pooying.
My point is that you can find good things no matter which side you are on the dark side or the bright side.
Happy pooning LAT.
Well, I am thrilled to be back in dreamland, I must say, more so as arrivsl day coincided with the festival of lanterns gliding up and colourful floats on the sea.
The first call of the day after checking in to yhe whitehouse condo was made to my long time girl, only to find that she is no longer working, as one of you guys ve set her up in a flat and she is the faithful one for sure, I assure my brother.
But, being the dear that she is, she brings her friend along who was equally good and cooperative, we have a major rock and roll in the bed- before a good lunch at a thai restrt.
My partner AC is down with a cold and is depressed.
So in thecevening we hit walking street, checkout the gogo bars, settle in for a 12 mn show at angelwitch, did not find any one worth taking back even later on in beach road, maybe because of the festival.
Lets see what's in store for today.
I arrived in Pattaya in the evening. Living in the region, it is easy for me to make it to Pattaya or Bangkok on almost a monthly basis. I've been doing this for me than 10 years now.
I Checked into the Marriott, then made my way to Soi 6. Was looking for some 2 girl action. Went down Soi 6 once, then returned back up the Soi and spotted two worthwhile candidates. Not sure which bar, but it was a bar at which the girls wear uniforms. In this case, it was a two piece blue uniform.
After some initial play, the two girls agreed to go upstairs at the standard price of 1300 each, inclusive of the 300 for the bar.
Disrobe, shower and into the room. Girls are friendly and reasonably adept at their job. When choosing younger girls on Soi 6, one can never be too sure that they will approach their work with any enthusiasm or skill. Both gave me a decent blowjob, then I moved onto to banging one. Feeling a bit of energy. I gave it to her for a decent amount of time from several positions. I could see the second girl being a bit disappointed when I did not finish inside the first girl and she now had to enjoy what her co-worker had just enjoyed. In these two girl settings, there is always a hope that the guy will finish when in the first, leading to some easy money for the second.
Finished banging the second girl, and moved onto to some more oral and then handjob action. I was gauging the patience of the girls, which was decently impressive and after about an hour in the room, it was time to finish. Asked them to put on their uniforms, for a little fetish finish, before they gave me a dual handy to bring the first event of the four days to a close.
After this, I returned to the hotel, after getting some milk and light snacks to eat from a minimart. This was an unfortunate choice of food as the milk was tainted and caused me considerable stomach upset for the next 48 hours, which also put a dent in the plans I had laid out for enjoying these four days in Pattaya.
I then went to Walking Street (my stomach had yet to react to the milk) and visited several bars. It was a Sunday, but it was much more disappointing on this Sunday then I had seen in Pattaya for a long time. Almost every bar was bereft of any girl north of a 6. One stunner upstairs in Baccara (if you go for the silicon breasts, thin body, young face and well styled, dyed hair look), but nothing of any substance in any of the other major bars, except for Living Dolls II. Soon rumblings from my stomach meant that the best place for me was back in the hotel.
Next morning, woke in time for the buffet breakfast, at, slept and woke again around 12:30 and braved the discomfort in my belly to head for the Devil's Den. Arrived there at opening at 1:00 pm to face a line-up of 19 girls. Selected Som and Mint, who is new. Both were sporting blond hair. Enjoyed a good 90 minutes with them, not exactly GFE but it was a session filled with technical excellence. First, 30 minutes of oral, split by 15 minutes by each (side note: the timer on the DVD player is a great way to keep track of time), followed by the first round of boom boom with both, then more oral, and then more fucking. Mint was a much better girl to bang than Som, as she seemed more receptive to the action. Before entering her for the third round, gave her a bit of oral, on a pussy that had yet to show the signs of wear and tear that can come from months or years of work at DD. The end was supposed to be a nice facial for Som, but she resisted, so instead it was blow to in mouth finish while standing, while Mint kissed and otherwise stimulated me. The mirrors in the room made a great visual for a strong finish, that nearly knocked me out.
Returned to the hotel, room service, sleep, continued discomfort, sadly and with wound to my pride, did not make it out in the night, and stayed in the room for the next 24 hours.
Day 3 was a return to Soi 6. Up and down the street, Saigon Girl looked promising for some dual action, with half a dozen younger than normal girls seated outside. But at a bar on the same side of the Soi as Saigon Girl, but much closer to Beach Road, saw a small mid-20 ish girl with short hair, and a stellar sexy ass and boobs. Never been in this bar before, but decided to take her upstairs after her friendly introduction to herself. Good decision.
Did the normal to prepare for the action, notable when I threw a condom and KY on the bed, she responded by throwing a half dozen of her own condoms on the bed. She was cute as expected but with a minor baby belly (stretch marks) albeit thin with a fair set of breasts. She begins with an extended oral session, followed by some voluntary rimming, and not just a few licks, but of the gold digging action variety. I followed with my own oral, and she responded with a small squirting orgasm. Hardly any need for KY now, but condom 1 is on and time to begin. Test her out a bit, and see she is up for some serious action on the bed and I give it to her with vigour. She has no problem with it. I pull out, oral on her again, another small orgasm and onto condom 2. Same serious of action, but bang her a bit harder and still no problem. Oral again, condom 3, go at it again, but accidentally squeeze her tricep between my hand and the bed causing her some pain (no bruising). She's not happy, and I thought that might be the end of it, but the trouper continues. Go to oral again, but she's had enough, so some handwork from her, oral from her, but that's not going to do it for me, so I straddled her chest, work myself over her face, no problem for her, and I finish with a nice facial, that does not faze her at all. Collapse on the bed, rest, she says, 'you like rough sex'. It is not so rough, as much as vigorous, I would say, but to each their own.
Back to the hotel, eat, rest gym, and onto walking street again, but still highly disappointing. I hope this is just an aberration for this visit, given some bad timing, but many bars including sensations, and heaven's above, among others just did not have it going. Moreover, the street itself was characterized by large groups and small packs of tourists, too many of whom are toting video cams while they peruse the scene on the street, definitely not a good vibe on the street or in its bars.
Nothing else happens that night. Day 4 begins slowly and soon it is night, and it is time to see if LK Metro holds any more promise. Simple answer is no. Hopefully, it is not a case of the population pyramid of Thailand ([URL]http://populationpyramid.net/thailand/[/URL]) oddly shaped like a condom, finally catching up to this fine industry, but the number of people in the 20-30 range is about 60% of that in the 30-40 range, and the numbers only get worse.
After LK Metro, I take a walk to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s bypassing many massage+ shops along the walk. Grab one girl at the entrance, who then encourages me to take another one to do a double action. No problem, so we go with that. Each takes their turn to take care of me for a couple of times, before I suggest that rather working individually, they work on me together. Doing so brings the mission to an end successfully, with another 30 minutes being well spent. 600 baht each and 200 baht tip each as payment.
Back to the hotel, inspect my funds, and I am way under budget. Having been waylaid for a couple of days by my stomach and not seeing anything worthwhile in the bars, kept the costs down considerably.
Feeling better this evening, I return to walking street. Straight to Living Dolls II, but for whatever reason do not drink with any of the many attractive girls inside the bar. Return to many other of the more reputable places, but nothing of substance happening. Decide to go to What's Up (if it is still called that now). Decent selection, I sit down to drink water and within 15 minutes couple of dancers want to drink with me. I know this bar is anything but cheap (by Thai standards) but I figure can't be cheap all the time. I buy some drinks for them, which naturally perks other girls' radar and soon I go from Mr Lonely to Mr Popular. I decide to see how this will play out, and soon I am buying drinks for waitresses, and some of the MILF dancers (the ones who wear the mesh outfits, and are more curvy and older than the other dancers). 3 or 4 hours later it is 3 am, and I close my bill (12,000 baht for those who are interested, yes, I know a waste in many ways, but it was done with full intention). I turn to one of the girls beside me who was not giving me much of a good vibe (even with all the drinks) but she had a stellar body, ideal thai thin fit type, but she had no interest to be barfined (claiming she had only been working in the bar for 6 days). I next turn to a MILF dancer to ask if she barfines. She looks surprised. Mama-San comes buy and writes 3000 baht barfine. Ok, I say, wanting to see how this plays out. She then writes, 10,000 baht to the girl. So only 13,000 baht for a MILF who is not even in the top half of the best looking girls in the bar. It is this price because she is a Bangkok model. No chance, so I leave the bar.
Still many other bars open, but instead look in some discos. I go in Marine. Spot a blonde woman, early 30's, thin body, but clearly not someone you want to see in daylight. Buy her a drink, she dances against my junk, feels me up, I ask her if she wants to go to the hotel, she says sure, but still dances and drinks. 20 minutes later (and 45 minutes into being in the bar, it is now past 4 am, and my taxi is at 8 am), I say let's go, she says no, so I say bye. Walking out of Marine Disco and two small early 20's girls coming up the stairs. They look at me, I look at them, they look at me. They ask, where you go, I say my hotel. They still look. I ask them to come with me. Both? Yes. They talk to each other, but don't want both, so I take 1 to go, and we go by bike taxi back to the Marriott. We get to my room, and I now see this girl is drunk and tired. She's lying on the bed, nearly passed out. I ask if she is ok, she says fine. I shower. Then she goes to shower, to makes tons of retching sounds in the toiler. I tell her to go home, she says no. I figure she must really want this 1200 baht. Finally she comes out of the shower, clean and nice smelling as a thai girl can be. Two ways of oral, then we start on the main event, and she can barely stay awake. Let me sleep she asks, one hour only, then we can boom boom. I doubt her, thinking once she is out she will be out. Try to do it a bit more, but the only thing worse than a starfish is a drunk starfish. Not it is almost 6 am. Ok, sleep I say. Boom, she is out. I pack take care of some emails. Watch TV and wake her up shortly after 7. Surprisingly, she is good to go. We have a nice session, she performs much better, finishes me with a superbly executed handjob, while giving me a nice view of her fine body.
We shower again, dress and she acts like a truly delicate and sweet girl as we walk out to reception. What a find, I am thinking to myself.
Pattaya – never know what to expect, but it will always deliver something new and something fun.
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1641865]Well, I am thrilled to be back in dreamland, I must say, more so as arrivsl day coincided with the festival of lanterns gliding up and colourful floats on the sea.
The first call of the day after checking in to yhe whitehouse condo was made to my long time girl, only to find that she is no longer working, as one of you guys ve set her up in a flat and she is the faithful one for sure, I assure my brother.
But, being the dear that she is, she brings her friend along who was equally good and cooperative, we have a major rock and roll in the bed- before a good lunch at a thai restrt.
My partner AC is down with a cold and is depressed.
So in thecevening we hit walking street, checkout the gogo bars, settle in for a 12 mn show at angelwitch, did not find any one worth taking back even later on in beach road, maybe because of the festival.
Lets see what's in store for today.[/QUOTE]Waiting for your detailed reports so I can plan mine! Do visit Devils Den if you can!
Raj
[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1641872]Moreover, the street itself was characterized by large groups and small packs of tourists, too many of whom are toting video cams while they peruse the scene on the street, definitely not a good vibe on the street or in its bars.[/QUOTE]The Disneyfication of Walking Street continues.
[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1641872]
After this, I returned to the hotel, after getting some milk and light snacks to eat from a minimart. This was an unfortunate choice of food as the milk was tainted and caused me considerable stomach upset for the next 48 hours, which also put a dent in the plans I had laid out for enjoying these four days in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1641872]Mama-San comes buy and writes 3000 baht barfine. Ok, I say, wanting to see how this plays out. She then writes, 10,000 baht to the girl. So only 13,000 baht for a MILF who is not even in the top half of the best looking girls in the bar. It is this price because she is a Bangkok model. [/QUOTE]They start to be absolutely crazy. The best stunner from Irons, I had last year, was 3000+1000, LT.
Hi all,
It's been a while, and I am going to Pattaya here in December.
I was wondering on Massage parlors with fun. I know that there are many around Pattaya, but I am looking for that can be compared to some of those in Bangkok Sukhumvit in the Soi 20's area. Something like Cherry Massage or Mango Massage for example.
Preferably with websites like those mentioned above.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
BB
[QUOTE=David2;1642056]I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.[/QUOTE]The funny part to me is a grown man drinking milk. And why not visit the pharmacy. They could have given him something to clear it up in half a day.
Not sure if it is the milk, what I have found even going to 7/11 is always check the date. I've on many occasion seen the date close to expiration? Whenever I buy milk product I pull the stock from the back. The manner in which it is handle can be a problem even if the date has not expired? I've seen products left out for extended periods in the heat then place back on the shelf and one wonder how many times this has happen prior to getting to the shelf. Milk product I'm always careful never had a problem but a few friends I knowhad their whole trip ruined?
[QUOTE=David2;1642056]I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.
Thanks in advance for your reply.[/QUOTE]I hadn't eaten anything else for about 8 hours before that, so I could only pinpoint it as being the milk. It did not taste off, but I never looked at the expiry date. I should have been attuned to the possibility that the milk was past its expiry date, given that half the girls working in the go-gos on that night were past their own expiry date for such employment.
A pharmacy trip would have been the smart thing to do to clear things up. No reason not to have gone and worse is that there are no shortage of pharmacies in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Koalie2001;1642328]I hadn't eaten anything else for about 8 hours before that, so I could only pinpoint it as being the milk. It did not taste off, but I never looked at the expiry date. I should have been attuned to the possibility that the milk was past its expiry date, given that half the girls working in the go-gos on that night were past their own expiry date for such employment.
A pharmacy trip would have been the smart thing to do to clear things up. No reason not to have gone and worse is that there are no shortage of pharmacies in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Did it ever cross your mind that it is not the milk at the 7-11 and maybe you feel sick after being with one of the many hookers in Pattaya? LOL. One of the safest places you can buy or eat anything in Pattaya is at the 7-11's. I have never seen them have expired things out for sale.
Before I ever travel to thailand. I make sure to pack first Charcoal capsules that can be bought at any health food store. This absorbs any poisons in the body. Second, I bring a body detox capsules that make you go the bathroom a lot.
I saw on Friday two things I have never ever seen before in Thailand.
1. I saw a 24 year old white dike appeared to be american picking up a Thai girl for a short time on beach Road. I was about 10 feet away. I was so tempted to tell the dike that I will pay for her session if I can just watch. But, I sensed she was one of those that just hate men. She was about a 5 in a scale of 1-10 and in decent shape.
2. I saw a white guy about 48 years old with a beautiful 23 year old white girl. She was blond hair and blue eyes and was a knockout. I at first thought that she was his daughter but she was with him as a lover. I don't think she was a hooker. They both together picked up this dirty Thai hooker on beach street. The Thai hooker was like 24 years old also. WTF!
There was a bar I picked up a chick to do a short time with. Everyday I walk by that bar the girls waves at me. Tonight I walk toward the bar because I wanted to drink with her. She was with a customer. As soon as she saw me she immediately put her drink down and ran over to me. I asked her if she wants to drink together and she quickly agreed. The manager started yelling at her and told her she can't switch customers and to go back to her original customer. I told her it was cool we hugged and I left. Its always hard to know what is real in Thailand.
If you come to Thailand download Line to your iPhone. For me this is the best way to hook up with them again. Because when you find a girl and you two separate. If she is hot just assume you will never ever see her again. Even if you try to find her the next day. Got to get her line contact. I don't like Thai numbers unless I have a Thai cell number.
Hello guys,
2 weeks back from 3 weeks Pattaya and 1 week BKK.
Since this is the Pattaya section:
Unless they invent something better, my goal is to go to Pattaya 3 times a year. Until now I've been there 4 times. My knowledge scratches the surface.
Wait till you read my story.
The first days it was like getting back in heaven again. I made a little to-do-list. No plans, only a list.
In this forum I read how it's not how it used to be, that there are no nice girls anymore, that its' all about the money. I've seen many many stunning girls in Pattaya. Ugly ones too, but the choice is just immense. The girls in agogo's like Baracca, Sensations, Iron. Oh my god. Young spinners who work in massage parlours on Soi buakhao and Soi Honey. And beer bars where there is at least 1 gem in every bar. I think you guys here are spoiled.
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, B,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
Nowadays I go to massage parlours or ask tel numbers from "normal" girls like receptionists, waitresses etc. Easier than it seems. And much fun.
Through this forum however I met a guy from Holland. He practically lives over there and invited me to make a tour of beer bars and agogo's.
We made it to the 2nd beer bar. And we were sold.
My list was ok. I went to Soi 6. I had a few threesomes with beach road-girls. I went out with the receptionist of my hotel. I had a few dates with massage parlour girls.
I even used the services of FL's from Insomnia etc. Had a great time.
But the beer bargirl from soi 10 stayed in my mind. (nan).
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.
Anyway. Be warned don't fall in love. Become the hunter, not the victim. And if you do, act like a teenager who doesn't have money. My god, Thai culture is in my blood even though I don't understand a f* about how to behave over there.
I learned some Thai words (5000). But it's better not to speak Thai at all, because they will think you are intelligent enough to take advantage of them.
On Beach road you can be a prostitute, on walking street not, or you will get punished. If there are 20,000 girls every day (1 out of 4) who fuck for 1000 baht, how big is the mafia over there?
If you fall in love with a girl who is in an "Mengda"-situation, you're f* (she has a BF, she loves him very much, she pays everything for him, . And you sponsor this).
Beerbargirls are like psychologists with 5 degrees and still I fall for them.
Hello all,
This is my long overdue no report from my trip last May. I spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Batavia. I probably did over 30 girls in that time. Overall, it was a great time. For those interested in rates: 85% were 1000 Thai Baht 10% were eight hundred Thai Baht and 5% were six hundred Thai Baht for a short time. I did one long time 1200 baht and 2 soap massage for 1500 and 1800 baht. All the girls were 6-9 scale. All of them were freelancers or Soi 6 or disco club girls. I only had for bad experiences, one being a hidden tummy with stretch marks, 2 being menstruating girls I hate that, and one complaining that I was too big and doing it too long. To be honest I do end up doing them for at least 40 minutes each. I didn't do any go go girls or beer bar girls as I hate paying the bar fine.
It was an incredible experience and I am going back again at the end of February. In Pattaya I stayed at the White House condo for 1500 baht a night includes breakfast. I would highly recommend it.
Here are my recommendations 4 newbies: my favorite are the beach road girls and the disco bar girls. If you just want eye candy or just to waste a few hours go to the gogos. Soy six is a great place if you can find a gem though the experiences are a bit mechanical. Be polite to the lady boys but kindly decline their offers. Be careful what you eat or you may have the runs for a few days. To be safe just go to subways or McDonalds or some other Americanized restaurant.
In February I plan on going to the Castle but I am a bit turned off by the 900 baht cover. I also understand that getting a girl there is in the neighborhood of 2,000 baht short time on premises. The reason I am going there as I have a fantasy of doing a girl while she is tied up. I think you can do that there. Does anyone have any info on the castle?
Spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Pattaya last may. Incredible experience! Did over 30 girls. Only 4 bad experiences. Two were menstruating 1 had a tummy that was well hidden and one complained that I was too big and took too long. For those interested in prices, 85 percent of them were 1000 baht 10% were 800 baht and 5% were 600 baht. All the girls were a 6 through 9 on a 10 scale. I also did one long time for 1200 baht and 2 soap massages for 1500 baht and 1800 baht. I did not do any go go girls or beer bar girls as I hate paying the bar fine. I only did freelancers and disco girls. I highly recommend the White House condo at 1500 baht a night includes breakfast.
Going back again in February. I want to try the Castle but the 900 baht entry fee seems ridiculous. Also I understand it is 2000 baht short time inside but I have a fetish of doing a girl while she is tied up. Does anyone have any info on the castle?
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642478]Hello guys
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, be,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
But the beer bargirl from soi 10 stayed in my mind. (nan).
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.
Anyway. Be warned don't fall in love. Become the hunter, not the victim. And if you do, act like a teenager who doesn't have money.
Beerbargirls are like psychologists with 5 degrees and still I fall for them.[/QUOTE]Since you obviously didn't learn anything the first time around and you know the deal, enjoy the ride until you crash again.
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642478]Hello guys,
2 weeks back from 3 weeks Pattaya and 1 week BKK.
Since this is the Pattaya section:
Unless they invent something better, my goal is to go to Pattaya 3 times a year. Until now I've been there 4 times. My knowledge scratches the surface.
Wait till you read my story.
The first days it was like getting back in heaven again. I made a little to-do-list. No plans, only a list.
In this forum I read how it's not how it used to be, that there are no nice girls anymore, that its' all about the money. I've seen many many stunning girls in Pattaya. Ugly ones too, but the choice is just immense. The girls in agogo's like Baracca, sensations, iron. Oh my god. Young spinners who work in massage parlours on Soi buakhao and Soi honey. And beer bars where there is at least 1 gem in every bar. I think you guys here are spoiled...[/QUOTE]Cosmic,
When you say it "better not to speak Thai at all because they worry we will be smart to take advantage of them" You have it wrong. LOL. Thai woman have a lot of secrets. They hate it when a man can speak Thai because they worry we will catch them in their s- But, forget about what they think. If you can learn some Thai. Good for you! Many can't speak English and if you want to drink with a hot chick but can communicate it is very uncomfortable. Especially with newbies. There have been many books written about Thai working woman. The conclusion is always the same. It is usually the guy that is being taken advantage of. The amazing ability of Thai working girls is that they can make you feel like long lost lovers within 30 minutes. They are experts in men. They have studied us and that is their whole job. For as sweet an charming as these girls are just don't believe it. Have fun and don't think it is real. LOL.
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642478]I went out with the receptionist of my hotel.[/QUOTE]And was it then embarrassing each time you brought a girl back to your room?
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642478]
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, B,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.[/QUOTE]The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different result.
[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1642579]Hello all,
This is my long overdue no report from my trip last May. I spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Batavia.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. I like the Whitehouse too and would recommend it especially to first time travelers to Pattaya. Good value and great location. You are the only person I know that refers to Jakarta as Batavia.
So I go out walking around Pattaya looking for girls. I see a beer bar. One girl grabs me but I like another girl there so I walk in and start talk with her. I ask her about short time. For what ever reasons she did not really walk to go to the short time room with me. But I finally talk her into it. We get to the room and I start to undress and she just stares at me. I fell something is not right. I say well? She will not undress then tells me she does not want to take off her top? What is this Tijuana? F- this I put my cloths back on and leave. As I was leaving I was a little worried something was going to happen like the one lady boy that was working there was going to hit me. It was a weird energy there and the lady boy was giving me an attitude before I went with the girl. Ok this night is not starting off good.
I then walk to a massage place a block away off 2nd Road near Tipp plaza. Pick a girl 700 for girl 200 for room. Very nice GFE time. Was not rushed at all. As I leave this place I walk 20 feet past all these massage places and bars and this very cute 19 year old calls me over. She speak zero English. I get her to do a short time with the help of a translator. Supposedly its her first day. I pay 300 bar fine and off we go. We walk to my hotel and get in my room. I hand her a towel to shower as I undress. I sense something is wrong. She gets out the google translator and what it says did not make sense but what did make sense was she had a stomach ache and needed food. So I take her to get food. I did not eat but she ordered two dishes. The bill came two 430 baut. So I ask her if she feels better and she says yes her stomach is better. So we walk to my place again and half way down my street she asks where we are going. I say boom boom. She says she can't she has her period. WTF. SO we are walking back toward her bar and she asks for my number. Like I am a sucker. I start to see what the scam is. She walking to a bar 3 bars away from the one she works and starts to hang out with friends. I make her walk back to her bar with me. She did not really understand why I had her take me to her bar. I made it seem like I wanted to remember where she worked. We walk in and I immediately tell the manager I want my 300 bar fine back. This girl has her period. The manager says just come back into days and she will be finished not giving me my money back. I say ok but I want my money back now. The manager reluctantly gives it too me. The 19 year old now would not even look at me. She just wanted me to bar fine her so she did not have to work. She thought I was a sucker! Well I am not. She did hustle me for over 400 baut in food. Maybe she tried to tell me in the google translate but it did not say period. I don't know. She should have not left the bar or even be working if she is on her period.
I now head to beach street. Find two hot chicks standing together. Both playing a video game on their phone. I offer her 700 and she says she will not go unless I give her 1000. She is playing the game as she is talking to me. Then she starts bitching about well how far is your hotel. A 5 minutes walk? That is far. I need taxi. I just walked away.
I picked another girl 700 baut very nice body. We get back to my place and she basically closed her eyes and looked the other way. She did not rush me with her mouth. It was her attitude that looked like she could not wait to get out of there. She hates her job ect. Too bad.
I pick another one on Beach Road to get me in a better mood. 700 baut. Very nice body. Great attitude. We get to my place and she wants me to take a shower with her ect. Great experience.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1642592]Since you obviously didn't learn anything the first time around and you know the deal, enjoy the ride until you crash again.[/QUOTE]I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1642662]And was it then embarrassing each time you brought a girl back to your room?[/QUOTE]The day after she went home for 5 days during which I broke up with her.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1642823]So I go out walking around Pattaya looking for girls. I see a beer bar. One girl grabs me but I like another girl there so I walk in and start talk with her. I ask her about short time. For what ever reasons she did not really walk to go to the short time room with me. But I finally talk her into it. We get to the room and I start to undress and she just stares at me. I fell something is not right. I say well? She will not undress then tells me she does not want to take off her top? What is this Tijuana? F- this I put my cloths back on and leave. As I was leaving I was a little worried something was going to happen like the one lady boy that was working there was going to hit me. It was a weird energy there and the lady boy was giving me an attitude before I went with the girl. Ok this night is not starting off good.
I then walk to a massage place a block away off 2nd Road near Tipp plaza. Pick a girl 700 for girl 200 for room. Very nice GFE time. Was not rushed at all. As I leave this place I walk 20 feet past all these massage places and bars and this very cute 19 year old calls me over. She speak zero English. I get her to do a short time with the help of a translator. Supposedly its her first day. I pay 300 bar fine and off we go. We walk to my hotel and get in my room. I hand her a towel to shower as I undress. I sense something is wrong. She gets out the google translator and what it says did not make sense but what did make sense was she had a stomach ache and needed food. So I take her to get food. I did not eat but she ordered two dishes. The bill came two 430 baut. So I ask her if she feels better and she says yes her stomach is better. So we walk to my place again and half way down my street she asks where we are going. I say boom boom. She says she can't she has her period. WTF. SO we are walking back toward her bar and she asks for my number. Like I am a sucker. I start to see what the scam is. She walking to a bar 3 bars away from the one she works and starts to hang out with friends. I make her walk back to her bar with me. She did not really understand why I had her take me to her bar. I made it seem like I wanted to remember where she worked. We walk in and I immediately tell the manager I want my 300 bar fine back. This girl has her period. The manager says just come back into days and she will be finished not giving me my money back. I say ok but I want my money back now. The manager reluctantly gives it too me. The 19 year old now would not even look at me. She just wanted me to bar fine her so she did not have to work. She thought I was a sucker! Well I am not. She did hustle me for over 400 baut in food. Maybe she tried to tell me in the google translate but it did not say period. I don't know. She should have not left the bar or even be working if she is on her period.
I now head to beach street. Find two hot chicks standing together. Both playing a video game on their phone. I offer her 700 and she says she will not go unless I give her 1000. She is playing the game as she is talking to me. Then she starts bitching about well how far is your hotel. A 5 minutes walk? That is far. I need taxi. I just walked away.
I picked another girl 700 baut very nice body. We get back to my place and she basically closed her eyes and looked the other way. She did not rush me with her mouth. It was her attitude that looked like she could not wait to get out of there. She hates her job ect. Too bad.
I pick another one on beach Road to get me in a better mood. 700 baut. Very nice body. Great attitude. We get to my place and she wants me to take a shower with her ect. Great experience.[/QUOTE]If you have to talk a girl into fucking you something is wrong. It should be the other way around. You should have walked.
If you have to buy a girl 400 bht worth of food before she fucks you, something is wrong. Especially since they can get a meal for 30 bht. You should of went back and got your money before the feeding.
If a girl won't look up from her phone game to talk to you, don't wait for her demands, walk.
WTF man, is this your first rodeo? Get you some interview skills to weed out the losers.
[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1642579]Be careful what you eat or you may have the runs for a few days. To be safe just go to subways or McDonalds or some other Americanized restaurant.
[/QUOTE]Dude, Thailand has a kitchen that's rated no. 1 by many people all over the world and you are advising American fastfood? Having the runs for a few days every now and then is all part of the game. Personally I think I would get the runs from that greasy fastfood.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1642909]If you have to talk a girl into fucking you something is wrong. It should be the other way around. You should have walked.
If you have to buy a girl 400 bht worth of food before she fucks you, something is wrong. Especially since they can get a meal for 30 bht. You should of went back and got your money before the feeding.
If a girl won't look up from her phone game to talk to you, don't wait for her demands, walk.
WTF man, is this your first rodeo? Get you some interview skills to weed out the losers.[/QUOTE]When your right your right. It was me that picked the restaurant mainly because it was close to my hotel and I just wanted to get her back to my room. If you would have seen this chicks body. I could not think right. She was so cute.
I left out the best part. When I walk on the street and its busy. After every five feet I look behind me to scan for motor bikes. They will zig zag between tourists sometimes. Well last night even though I was walking on the side of the street. I stopped scanning behind me. Next thing I know a motor bike hits me. Now it was going only 10 mph and hits me. I did not get hit with the wheel but the side of the bike. The lady did not even say sorry. WTF? At that point I had flashes in my head of kicking her bike to the ground, or grabbing her bike and pushing it to the ground. Then I had visions of the Thai police takes me to the police station ect. So I did nothing. At least I did not get hurt because it could have been a lot worse.
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642906]I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.[/QUOTE]'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ' Albert Einstein.
Toumai
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1642906]I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.[/QUOTE]Really bad plan. She is a bar girl, and you think she "is not corrupted"? Well, I guess that depends on your definition of "not corrupted". But this will not end happily for you. For a start you will pay her. She will have a very good story as to why she needs some money now, even just a loan. And you will think, 'I have so much and she has so little', that you will pay her. And whatever plans you make, she will agree with. And she will keep on agreeing whilst you keep paying. Perhaps you will pay for a visa, and an airline ticket, and a 'dowry'. But it is very unlikely that you will end up with a contented Thai wife back in your home country.
So my last day in Pattaya. Had good experiences all day with girls. The last one I picked up on Beach street was independent she was flashing her butt at one of her friends and I thought she was wild. She only asked for 700 Baut. She says 21 but more like 23-24. Who knows. We get back to my room for boom boom. We did do all positions it probably lasted 10 minutes then all of the sudden she jumps up and says she's done he pussy hurts from fucking. I could understand if I was hitting bottom of her pussy but I was not. I did not really know how to act. Should I give her 500 baut instead of the 700? You know I had stuff all over my room and did not want any issues with her grabbing them or breaking something. So I just had the 700 waiting on her purse when she got out of shower. Talked with her about how messed up that was. Her English was perfect. That never happened to me before.
My best friend had an incident one time with a time girl. I can't remember what it was and refused to pay her. She called the police the police came and it was either pay or go to the station. So he paid.
Late at night I was not going to argue over the 200 baut I was thinking of holding back. Now if it was 1000 baut I would have held back money but 700 I guess its ok. I just worry because I gave her the full 700 she will do this to another guy.
[QUOTE=Toumai;1643040]'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ' Albert Einstein.
Toumai[/QUOTE]£ yeah but Einstein is dead and I'm not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.
The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!
GO-GO"s.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club in Pattaya, you will pay top dollar and get good service that you have negotiated upfront. You should expect at least above average service if you qualified your lady well. Most of the time if she agrees to your advances, she will perform so that a unhappy customer does not come back to the club complaining. Not always, but saving face in the club means everything to these girls. Besides, she is getting top dollar for services and its very lucrative income for a club dancer with no skills and education. Bar fines are usually around 700 baht and up.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club, you will pay top dollar and get below average service that you thought you have already agreed to upfront, and at worse you pick a starfish. It could be her but it also could be you in that you didn't do a good enough job interviewing and qualifying her. Also, remember some of these ladies cannot handle real booze that isn't watered down by the club (I. E. Lady Drinks). So if you take her out and stop somewhere for a drink or dancing before you get to your room, try to just have one drink and off to your room to take care of business or you could end up with something worse, a drunk starfish.
A few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. Interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. Also, overpaying and throwing Baht around like it is growing on trees. (I. E. Buying lady drinks for your target and maybe her girlfriends) will not help your cause if you interview her correctly. As in all these scenarios, qualify and re-qualify and usually you won't be disappointed and then you will experience more 80%er's. Remember it's all about the money at least for the first encounter with the lady. If you go back for seconds with the same lady and you treated her good and with respect, and she is happy to see you, some of her defensive start tumbling down and your mileage with her could easily increase and your costs with her should go down outside her bar fine work hours. 80% of these ladies work 7 days a week from 8 PM to 3 AM.
Beer and BJ Bar's.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a young lady from a Beer Bar or BJ Bar in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, but you probably will get poor to average service even though you thought you negotiated services upfront. She won't admit it but it's all about the money. A lot of these young ladies do not speak any language but Thai. It becomes difficult to communicate and qualify. They come and go frequently and a new crop is always surfacing. Maybe she has been in the business a short time. Now we know she isn't a virgin, but sometimes she really doesn't know how to please a man. I am always amazed how a BJ Bar girl really isn't that good at giving BJ's. Just beware it happens, and you will feel used and regret the expense, experience and second guess your personnel patented selection process in future escapades. But maybe it wasn't the lady at all, and it was your interviewing and qualifying skills. Or the Thai language barrier clouded your qualifying her, it happens. Bar fines are usually around 300 baht and up.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a Beer Bar or BJ Bar in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, and you will get above average to off the charts incredible service, GFE that goes beyond what you have negotiated upfront. She usually is not eye candy that you usually see in the Go-Go's, but sometimes you can find some 9's and 10's, she is a "Diamond in the Rough". You will feel lucky, and your self-esteem will be flying high. Also, we all know someone's perfect pretty woman is someone else's 5 or 6. So, don't let it go to your big head, you either have some good qualifying skills or you were just lucky. Bar fines are around 300 baht and up.
Again, a few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. But not as much a factor as the Top Go-Go clubs. Good interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. Also, overpaying and throwing Baht around like it is growing on trees, (I. E. Buying lady drinks for your target and maybe her girlfriends), or agreeing to pay what they ask for without a little negotiating the typical rate at that bar, will seem like it will elevate you and help you in her eyes, but in reality you are a target and being played. It's nothing personal it's all about the money.
Beach road and disco freelancers.
80% of the time if you find a freelancer lady on Beach Road or in one of the Disco's in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, but if it is GFE you are looking for you probably will get poor to average service than you negotiated upfront ("slam bam thank you man" Sometimes these ladies on Beach Road and in the Disco's and after hour clubs are Go-Go dancers that were not picked up that night (you have to wonder why she didn't get bar fined at the Go-Go?) Also, sometimes you can't communicate or negotiate well in the Disco clubs because the music is to loud or for other reasons, and you are gambling for a good experience and flying blind. These ladies are typically clock watchers most of time. She is thinking let's take care of business, usually one pop, and I will be on my way. It's nothing personal it's all about the money.
20% of the time if you find a freelancer lady on Beach Road or in one of the Disco's in Pattaya, or even a waitress at a restaurant you frequent, maybe a hotel worker where you are staying, whatever you will pay way less than the big Go- Go clubs, and you will get above average to incredible service, GFE that goes beyond what you have negotiated upfront. The so-called "Diamond in the Rough". You will feel lucky, and your self-esteem will be flying high. Being a little bold in the Disco's, being charismatic and buying drinks for some pre-qualified prospects sometimes does play a factor. But be on guard, some of these ladies are just after free drinks. Being a good dancer doesn't hurt either.
Again, a few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. Being able to attract women outside of Pattaya, or having a good rap when approaching ladies you don't know, will pay major dividends on Beach Road and the Disco's and after hours clubs. Interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. But remember, most of these ladies are dumb and come from very poor provinces in the north. It's not their fault they are dumb it's their education system. So try to understand and do not complicate negotiations. The KISS principle works very well in these situations. But when it comes to street smarts, usually most of these ladies have incredible street smarts in order to survive in their crazy world.
Massage parlors and BJ bars.
See 80/20 Rule of Beach Road and Disco Freelancers above. It is the same except for a few minor exceptions not worth mentioning.
Conclusion and opinions.
The 80/20 rule is just a simplistic way to look at your day to day exploits and help explain them to yourself, oh yea, you either got a 80% experience or a 20% experience no matter where your partner comes from in Pattaya. After she goes out your door you sit back analyze what you ended up with and why. Some of my friends have embraced the 80/20 rule and refer to their ladies as a Go-Go 80%er or maybe she was a Beer Bar 20%er. Without going into much detail, I know what he basically experienced. Sometimes other factors will affect your success but to a lesser degree are (I. E. Speaking a little Thai, personality, your generosity, chemistry with the lady, your grooming, your smell, your breath, the lady's past experience with your nationality or looks, etc.) But, make no mistake, in 100% of all scenarios, don't take yourself to seriously, don't fall in love, it is nothing personal and it's all about the money. The ladies would be considered dumb in our world, but in their crazy world they are academy award actresses and magicians at adding drinks to your bill when you least expect it. Oh yea, no matter where go, watch your drink receipts in your bins. Don't know if it is intentional ("I think it is" but erroneous charges have been known to appear. Also, 80% of these ladies have some kind of sad story. 80% of their sad stories are made up to get sympathy and more Baht from you. 20% of sad stories may be real but don't let them impact your negotiations and mongering. Beware if you are soft soul or sensitive guy because you will be impacted by these sad stories. DO NOT get emotionally tied with these women or you will crash and burn. The ladies are human and they have needs also and get horny from time to time. So your advances and timing might be good or bad just because the way she is feeling at that given time. So, success with a lady in Pattaya has many many different factors. Now my observations are not just mine, but a culmination of my own experiences and also my several conversations with some of my ladies in Pattaya and experienced seasoned Pattaya Mongers who I have met. One of my best sources is a gentleman that I met last year who has been mongering in Pattaya since the early 60's. Things have changed a lot in Pattaya since then, but not the 80/20 rule. You should see the old fart today, with a multitude of health problems, walking hand in hand, with one of his recent exploits ("a 20 ish hottie" wearing a shit eating grin on his face that speaks volumes. So before you disagree with me and attempt to flame me, realize you are a 20%'er whether you know it or not. Because 80% of Pattaya mongers will agree with me and the rule, and 20% of Pattaya mongers won't. It really doesn't matter, remember it's all about the money and having some fun, IMHO the 80/20 rule is alive in Pattaya! Have fun and be safe.
Arrived Friday around 6, quickly to Walking Street to hear some live music (great rock band in a bar just across from Crazy House). Directly next to the live music bar is a tiny hole-in-the-wall bar called "Ring the Bell Bar", and yes, they have a bell. One lady with beautiful legs sitting on the first stool at the entrance, I walked by to check her three times, third time she gives me a great smile, so in I go. Four girls and two ladyboys working this bar. I meet Muk, 40 years old. Good conversation, no pressure for drinks. A few beers later I barfine her 300 Baht, ask her fee for overnight she will only say "up to you". I know this game, but with a 40 year old I think there is truth behind it. We go next door for a few sets of live music, down to street to Tankay for seafood (the grilled shrimp are awesome).
In the hotel we shower, right to the bed. Nearly flat-chested but the most amazing nipples, must be two-inch long! I love the big, long nipples on Asian girls but these were record-setting! Extended DFK, rings my bell as I enjoy the foreplay almost as much as the act. BBBJ, she didn't seem to want to stop, after about 10 minutes I spun her around for DATY, then FS in every position. After, great cuddle, almost non-stop kissing and DFK, she didn't seem very good at the DFK but made up for it with enthusiasm and seemed to get better with some practice.
Next morning, following round 2 and what seemed like endless kissing I put 1,500 in her purse, asked her to breakfast. Then I just kept her. We went to her room for swimming clothes and I took her to the hotel pool. More sex. Back to her bar to bar fine her for a second night, a few beers and repeat of night one. Saturday night almost a duplicate of Friday night. Sunday morning another 1,500 in her purse, breakfast, more swimming, a nap, more sex and continuous kissing and cuddling. I was in heaven, didn't think I could find a girlfriend experience like this in Pattaya. I had no intention of keeping this girl a second day and night but in the end kept her for a third as I did not leave Pattaya until Monday morning.
In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?
BW,
For what you got at the price you pay and I'm sure someone will chime the opposite! You got a deal!
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1643218] yeah but Einstein is dead and I m not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.[/QUOTE]Cosmic30,
You don't really want others to tell you how to do it. All you really want is reassurance that your current set course of action is right!
'This time it's different. ' I have heard this many times. So carry on dude. It's your life, it's your money. Good luck!
Just remember that the statistics do not work in your favour. Successful relationships with ex P4P are few and far between.
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]The protocol is you pay her LT fee and enjoy the GFE service and company. Don't screw it up.
[QUOTE=Cosmic30;1643218] yeah but Einstein is dead and I m not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.[/QUOTE]Cosmic.
Simple recipe; Travel the world seeking out cute 18-22 year old pussy. Pay local market pricing, tip for great service if you want.
Most important. Send pussy home after 2-4 hours and go drink with your buddies.
Repeat recipe as needed.
Short term offers minimal problems. Beyond that ruins the recipe.
Guido88.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1643333]The protocol is you pay her LT fee and enjoy the GFE service and company. Don't screw it up.[/QUOTE]I agree. I wouldn't attempt to renegotiate fee unless you were keeping her for an extended period. One or two more days not worth ruining the mood.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1643320]BW,
For what you got at the price you pay and I'm sure someone will chime the opposite! You got a deal![/QUOTE]Spend 3 full days with a 40 yo MILF? Not really my Christmas come early sort of thing. Never mind whatever the price. But to each his own. LOL!
Toumai
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The science of the 80/20 rule.
GO-GO"s.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club in Pattaya, you will pay top dollar and get good service that you have negotiated upfront.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club, you will pay top dollar and get below average service that you thought you have already agreed to upfront, and at worse you pick a starfish.[/QUOTE]Interesting analysis! However I really think the above should be the other way around ánd it should be something like 5% versus 95% (5% give good service, 95% give bad service).
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]Arrived Friday around 6, quickly to Walking Street to hear some live music (great rock band in a bar just across from Crazy House). Directly next to the live music bar is a tiny hole-in-the-wall bar called "Ring the Bell Bar", and yes, they have a bell. One lady with beautiful legs sitting on the first stool at the entrance, I walked by to check her three times, third time she gives me a great smile, so in I go.
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In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]Sounds familliar. Will you care to post or PM a pic?
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]The protocol is "there is no protocol". It is whatever you both can agree to. Personally, I either make an "all inclusive deal for the whole period" (but I will do so only if I am pretty sure of her and her services) or I pay on a day by day basis extending the deal as I fancy and as she is available. All days are paid the same amount in this case, as you I am paying for her time on a day-by-day basis.
But even with an "all exclusive" deal, I tend to pay her by daily installments. I find it keeps everyone honest and trustworthy. But as I said, such V (ery) LT is only for girls I know better and then of course there is already a certain level of mutual understanding that forms the basis for the arrangement.
I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1643539]I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.[/QUOTE]Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1643608]Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).[/QUOTE]Baccara is a favorite of mine. I don't think they're running a con. Had I known in advance that the price was now up another 5 baht I would have been OK with that as 5 baht is not worth fretting about.
But it wasn't long ago that happy hour drinks were 50 baht in Baccara. Now its 80 baht. ST with a stunner was 1000 baht. Now its 2000. Everything I admit is still a bargain but the cost of entertainment in Pattaya is creeping up.
Baccara and Happy are packed with Asian customers every night and they spend big time and chain smoke like fools. The bar knows it can afford to raise prices and these punters will still come in herds.
I'll keep coming too. The pussy is top notch and getting better all the time. I'll put up with a lot of bullshit for that.
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1643302]In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?[/QUOTE]I think it would be reasonable to negotiate something in advance if you knew you were going to keep her for a few days. But I wouldn't short-change her after the event.
But it sounds like you got a great bargain. Sure, you could perhaps have paid £10 less over 3 days, but why would you want to? And of course she is looking forward to seeing you next time!
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!
So before you disagree with me and attempt to flame me, realize you are a 20%'er whether you know it or not. Because 80% of Pattaya mongers will agree with me and the rule, and 20% of Pattaya mongers won't. It really doesn't matter, remember it's all about the money and having some fun, IMHO the 80/20 rule is alive in Pattaya! Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Your rule seems to suggest that the more you pay the better the service, and thus recommends patronizing a-go-gos.
Alas, good service is dependent upon the desperation (that is, un-marketability) of the provider, not the motivation of the customer (paying a lot). Good looking young girls have a plethora of customers even at the higher price level which prevails for such rarities. There's never really any great motivation or reason for them to provide excellent service.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1644236]There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls ...[/QUOTE]Absolutely right on. I can only base my opinion on my own experiences in Pattaya where I have a 99.95% positive ratio with the girls I barfine regardless of whether I take them from Go Go's, Beer Bars, or Soi 6. Number 1 is have a good attitude, Duh! And act like you are having fun. LOL. Number 2 is be friendly and generous with a drink or two while interviewing and screening prospective girls. Take a little time to get to know them. Meanwhile look for any bad signs or tells from the girl and if found politely disengage. Don't be uptight or paranoid. If everything appears to be good, it most likely is. Number 3 is to always present yourself properly with good hygiene and clean clothes. Body odor or bad breath will drown your experiences with Thai girls.
Everybody can occasionally have a bad bar girl experience. I am probably over due for one. But punters that come on the forum consistently complaining that Thai girls are shit or Go Go girls provide lousy service usually have only themselves to blame. They most likely violated one or more of the 3 rules stated above.
Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.
It's all about the money. Being nice is a given and goes without mentioning. But, I have seen some ladies that are attracted to bad boy assholes, very very few though, and it is a female mystery that has defied analysis. If a lady goes from a GoGo to work a beer bar, I agree there is a few, she is not going to get the 3000-4000 take out fee at the beer bar that she normally could of gotten at a GoGo. Let's say on average anyway, but maybe there are exceptions out there but I haven't heard of any. Does the lower take out fee hinder her performance. I guess it could happen, but maybe not, and she always gives incredible GFE. Old fashioned luck might play a part with a successful episode with a lady, but when you look back, were you nice, did you express that you have a good heart, did you make her laugh, were you generous, etc. Call it luck if you want. Being a 20% doesn't mean you are wrong, just that you have experienced the scene differently and don't agree. That's cool. But the 80/20 rule lives.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1644236]I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MeEnLu;1644307]Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.[/QUOTE]Simple rule for me is if I am paying, I get it when I want it or otherwise what's the point. I can stay in USA and have pussy rationed to me.
Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).
Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars. What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
Yasaxxx
Days 2 -6.
Day 2-One of the pros of the whitehouse condotel is the set breakfast-Just right, as I tend to stuff myself at a buffet! Along with the girl friendly staff and the girlfriendly bed!!all perfect to the monger's taste. Trying to plan the day, as my buddy was still sick, I got acall from pan, Girl from Day1. She wants to know if I need company, and I agree. Hour later, Her Honda suv brings me my afternoon snack, PAT. She looks 30 +, but with a body surgically sculpted to perfection, and an attitude of a pro girl friend. 2000 bht for a 2 HR "longish short time" in multiple positions At the end of which, I could not resist tempting my pal with a ST offer. He takes up the challenge and was sabai sabai Maybe he will post a report too?
3 hrs of rest, and we head out to walking street. Beach road, which was taken up by festival stall the night before was teeming with working girls, although there were not many 5 plus. The two girls to whom we donated my sick pal's packed Phadthai and chicken green gravy on day 1 recognized us, said thanks, and offered "we go with you?"but the night was young, and we could see walking street ahead, beckoning. But, Distinctively Indian, we were bounced off a no of the bigger (better?) Gogo bar curtains, watched the many roadshows. Last time, I was with a fellow ISGian from Singapore, and alone in the trip beforethat. Many bars and coyotes beckoned me inside then. But this time as a group of three Indians, the bars were not keen. They are surely losing out on many a dollar, as there were many Indian groups around. I wonder what they will do in low season? But I never miss the bar girls nowadays, as other better options have opened up. We needed rest, and beers, so ended up in Angelwitch again. Pretty good shows, no con games, and good crowd. Many lady drinks, bhts, and frolic flowed in angelwitch. Took a bahttaxi to Rasputin, Choice was easy, Mint (16). At 3800 bht, this is an expensive outing, But I have a fetish for her, she being a pretty Indian filmstar lookalike and this gives me a kick, She is familiar with me too, seems to enjoy the act, that helps too. Worth mentioning here, another stunner had a 5000 bht tag on her!
NM.
Day3.
Pan is off to Phuket later today with a customer. Pan joins me for breakfast, and confirms my appointment of April 2015,with a kiss and a boobilicious hug before saying goodbye. She is a gem that I would want to return to. , But now, she has a "sister" Pat, who is ready to come, and sells me "long time". Pissed off at walking street racism, I settle for an overnighter. Having the afternoon free, we head over to Honey and sabaidee. Indians are major customers, and welcome in soapies. We find our preferred girls in the model sections, the normal fishbowl being all 3's and 4's, nothing more. My pal #1's Fever magically vanish after the session, but pal #2' s Sildenifal tablet strikes back and he is out of action for 24 hrs, living on coconuts and regret.
Pat is still climbing the ladder, I gather by the Toyota pickup that she picks me up in and we go to the proverbial bed after a wonderful thai dinner. My Pal # 1 finds his Indian restaurant and bliss. Really homely stuff.
I soon find out pat will surely get her Honda suv soon, she is a professional. I find myself having a Porn star experience, my pill (Ranbaxy) living up to its expectations. She has an incredible 36-26-36 hourglass figure and makes all the right moves and sounds. Her blonde hair bounced along with her tits in my favourite position, WOT. But she wouldn't let me squeeze them, must be a recent job done! That was fine, I just enjoyed the visual. We have wonderful sex through the night, short breaks in between, she has no limits. But guys have limits and I almost pass out. Later At breakfast, she promptly shows me two of her friends on facebook, and more profiles later. I choose the cute looker over the sex bomb. But insist on shorttime as I want to spent time with my buddies on Day 4, and relax on a beach chair over beers, shrimps and a foot massage.
Pat leaves after she saves her no and snap on my mobile. By the way, pics could not be attatched in pattaya forum, but I could in the india page. Any tips there from seniors? NM.
Day 4.
I think I have the day to myself, but my retired girlfriend,(now somebody else's girl) calls. Its weekend, she has the day off, so how about Lunch? The Hyde in me is thrilled, I groom myself like a teenager. To be on the safe side, pop a pill. Her"I come 12 noon na" was always 2 pm, and after the usual " sorry na" messages, she came at 2 pm. She drives a fancy car now, thanks to her benefactor (,lucky bugger). We long drive to Naklua, sea side seafood and wine sit, chat on the beach. I tell her about the Boss perfume gift I got for her from duty free, and she wants to go to the hotel room. On the way back, my conscience makes me miserable, it shows, she is concerned, "you ok, na? She sits on the bed, I give her the parcel, she gives me a peck on the cheek, and a hug. I do not hug her back, Its only platonic now. I am out of misery and grins with relief. Mind clear. She wants to go for cake and icecream, and I have to remind her of my "other date". So off she goes, and I know will message me goodnite every night I am in pattaya. I am happy for her.
Forgive me if I bored you guys. I call my friends, lie that my conference just got over (sorry, Pals, but this day was for my soul) and we get back together for a hunt. Pal #1 fixes up with a girl he liked at a massage place to come over late at night to his room, and retires, happy. I head back, shower, wait for my call from reception. Hotel desk is cool now, do not require me to go down for the formality, and the knock comes. I realize that the facebook photo I was shown was probably taken 5 years back, and docs have reshapened her cheeks and nose. (this I find is sooo commonly done, and often wonder why they spend 80 grand+ on such serious makeup.) The pill effect has been uplifting me, so we go ahead and do the BBJ, CBJ, WOT, and About turn routine to a perfect ending.
We are hungry, and call room service. We eat, drink beer, watch thai soap. I express my preference for the original cute face, and she offers her "sister" who has similar looks, and younger too. I say fine, choose ST, after lunch, as I am not sure. This trip is turning out to be "Referral fucks only"! 2nd round, and sleep, shower, bbj, and I am spent. This session was all too mechanical and scripted. Not one to dream of in the coming days. But the lunch date, I will cherish.
Nm.
Day 5,and 6 cute face.
Well, I actually had this conference. My alibi, ,so showed my face, had the lunch buffet and slipped back to the room.
Caught up on sleep, met my pals, now they know their way around, so didn't miss me yesterday. I wait in the lobby Another Toyota pickup parks, and the promised cute face walks in to my delight. I feel an instant chemistry. Not "sexy" she had only "A" cups, but lovely legs. In the room, she talks and talks in broken thaiglish and I found her cuter. Boobs did not matter, and I did not need the pill that day. Short time became very long time, and she talked, we ate, fucked, she talked, ate, fucked, slept, sucked, talked, ate again, fucked, slept, got up, and I did not want to let her go, but 12 noon was checkout time, and 4 our taxi pickup.
I had plans for devils den on the last day, but that was not to be. If I had an option, I would have postponed my trip! But by how long?. I say goodbye and thanks to the strong faithful bed, promising my return in April.
And in April, my first call will be to cuteface.. And am sure she will come in her swanky new SUV by then.
So till April 2015,Dream on.
The relationship with my ex thai girl started like this. Hmmm.
Nm.
I'm travelling to pattaya middle off March, any one like to meet for drinks, and chat welcome.
[QUOTE=Yasaxxx;1644402]Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).
Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars. What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
Yasaxxx[/QUOTE]My sugestion is that you can:
1. Read prior post that has that information since it has been discussed numerous times or:
2. Spend 20 bucks and buy a membership so someone can PM you with the information or you can PM them.
Either way we don't have to live through it again.
Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1644802]Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist..[/QUOTE]I know there certainly used to be a couple of places in walking street which had Russian girls but to be honest I've never been in either of these places. I remember seeing one on the right hand side as you enter from beach road where the girls were dancing in the windows on the first floor. Sorry I can't give you anymore information like prices etc as I said I have seen them but never ventured inside.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Yasaxxx;1644402]Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).[/QUOTE]I have never had any problem to find a girl that will use a condom. I think it is safe to say that protected sex is the norm, although it probably does not take too much insisting to have unprotected sex as well.
[QUOTE=Yasaxxx;1644402]Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars.[/QUOTE]Your idea of a "sexy hot girl" may be different from my idea or anybody else's idea. This is therefore a question that cannot be answered for lack of relevant data. I think all kind of FL girls and ladies walk around in Pattaya, so just do some scouting yourself until you find someone you like. Beerbars or agogo clubs do not have a monopoly on "sexy hot girls" (for whatever definition of "sexy hot girls").
[QUOTE=Yasaxxx;1644402] What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
[/QUOTE]Traditionally, "short time" ends when you cum. "Short Time" does not buy you "time", it buys you the right to cum once with the girl (within a reasonable time of course). "Long Time" buys you time: an overnight stay and as many pops as you can manage.
[QUOTE=Yasaxxx;1644402]
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
Yasaxxx[/QUOTE]Have fun and don't forget to file some reports about your experiences!
[QUOTE=Momy333;1644595]I'm travelling to pattaya middle off March, any one like to meet for drinks, and chat welcome.[/QUOTE]Being a first poster, you may not know there are a different section in this thread by the heading of "Travel announcement bla bla. ". Generally members post their travel announcements and itinerary to meet like minded fellas.
You may try the same again in the respective section and will be able to find other fellas posted their announcements too.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1644802]Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.[/QUOTE]For the best selection on Earth try Russia and other European countries. In other words, "When in Rome, fuck Romans. ".
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1644833]I have never had any problem to find a girl that will use a condom. I think it is safe to say that protected sex is the norm, although it probably does not take too much insisting to have unprotected sex as well.[/QUOTE]All the ladies I had a pleasure to shag were vehemently insistent on using protection. It did not matter whether they were from the beach road, F / L on walking street, Soi 6, massage places or a go go bar.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1644802]Hey guys,
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for.
John.[/QUOTE]There are a few Russian places on WS, where Russian or Ukrainian grils work.
You will recognize the places immediately.
BUT:
As I lived and worked a couple of years in UA and RF, I can tell you:
Prices of these girls on WS is too high, and quality too low.
Better book a flight to Kiev.
I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this? Also, the same guy is saying you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? Sorry to sound so naive but first trip to Thailand. I depend a lot on what I get from this board when I arrive some where new.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1644802]Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.[/QUOTE]The one's walking on Beach road into W. S. I would never touch, they just do not appeal to me. On W. S. You might try Marlin Rouge? You can see girls dancing above in glass window and there are girls standing outside along the stairway. There is also another club next to Crazy House, there is also a club next to Pier Disco, The Old Tony's disco can't remember the new name there are some FL, and Mixx Disco, there might be some F. L. Too. Overall, expensive. Russians never has appeal to me even when I use to visit China City in Hong Kong, and Macau.
Leaving Patts for now, Took Muk from Ring the Bell Bar Walking Street (posted one week ago) for a second weekend, continued non-stop GFE. She may indeed be a nympho, she never stops and never says "no". I love it! Last weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday THB 1,500 each day plus THB 300 Bar Fine. This weekend Friday and Saturday night, same financial arrangement. Dinner, good conversation and endless sex. By this morning (Sunday) I was sexed-out, only happened once before. Wow.
Walking Street these past two weekends full of Chinese tourists in tour groups, all following behind a tour guide holding a pennant or flag up in the air to lead the procession. The girls in Ring the Bell Bar are frustrated these groups never stop in, don't drink, yet cluster around for endless photo's of them and their customers. They also report a sharp drop in farang activity most of this year due to political wrangling in Bangkok. The girls fear Europeans are reading the bad press and going elsewhere, fewer customers in Pattaya at this time. Not a bad deal for those of us who show up!
I saw a lot of talent on Beach Road, hit and miss. My first trip down Beach Road Friday night 7 November I was very impressed with the quality and selection. Saturday was not as good and this recent weekend 14,15 November also hit-and-miss. Still lots of talent. If I hadn't stumbled into Muk at Ring the Bell I would have been very happy with multiple, random choices from the Coconut Bar.
I am a huge fan of American College football, a real passion of mine. I Googled watch parties in Pattaya and found The Irish Rover, Soi LK Metro. Went there 8 am Sunday morning 9 November as my team was kicking-off at 8 pm Eastern Time in the US, found about 20 other Americans in the bar doing the same thing, eating a great THB 99 full-English breakfast and watching football. Went back this weekend, returned from there just a few hours ago as my team had a noon kickoff in the US, midnight in Pattaya. The Irish Rover was packed with rowdy rugby fans but those games ended around 11:30 pm, most of them staggered out the door F'ing their teams the whole way! Got to love rugby fans. I spoke to the bar owner, an Irishman believe it or not, and he gladly put my American football game on one screen. By the time the game started probably 10 American men in the bar watching my game (Ohio State) and one other, while the other 20 screens all had England. Slovenia soccer game. The owner bragged about having two NFL game packages so he can show multiple NFL games as well, so if you are a fan of American football either College or NFL, check out the Irish Rover, and practice saying "Fuck" a lot.
Excellent report Bushwacker. It's been a few years since I've been in Patts. Was curious where ya'll recommend the best bar with big screen TV'S and perhaps some talent? Staying at a Flipper property.
[QUOTE=MeEnLu;1644307]Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.[/QUOTE]I saw this post as I was researching my third trip to this country. I thought that was a funny question so felt like answering. I take generic cialis every alternate day and manage four times a day every day on my vacation. I usually tell the LT gal I like to do it four times. Some of them expect to get away with just once or twice a day. Once you have hired her, you can do it any time morning afternoon and night. But I find a fleeting flash on disappointment every time I ask this question about doing four times because no matter how seasoned a WG is, she loves the idea and chance of either impressing a newcomer or giving him a raw deal.
P.S. : I have a problem with long term memory. I go blank or don't remember too many details, and being a one or two beer glass drinker who manages seven to eight glasses on my mongering trips does not help. Hence you won't find many posts by me to trust my opinion. But I hope that wont be an issue.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=W20415;1645024]I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this?
Also, the same guy is saying you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? Sorry to sound so naive but first trip to Thailand. I depend a lot on what I get from this board when I arrive some where new.[/QUOTE]There's the same answer for both, maybe or maybe not. YMMV and what you might experience may not be the same for others.
[QUOTE=W20415;1645024]I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this?[/QUOTE]I walked Beach Road countless times at all times of night alone (well, not so much after 4:30 am, I find someone and go to bed eventually). There are usually people around at all times, even in the less busy stretches, and I cannot say I ever felt the least bit unsafe.
Safety warnings only have merit if you're visibly drunk, carry expensive looking jewellery or stick around the ladyboys. In that case, there's some chance of mugging, and it sure is less safe than walking street.
Apart from being sober and not looking like a mug, the tricky part is passing by ladyboys. They might go for a grope (perhaps masking a wallet snatch), but as long as keep focused, just keep going around / past them, not try to insult them, they'll let you go. Definitely do not show you're upset with them or insinuate disgust, a half-smile is good if you can manage it. Do watch your valuables and don't stop or let a group of ladyboys surround you.
[QUOTE=W20415;1645024]you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? [/QUOTE]No such rules. From the bar business perspective, greeters are usually among the better looking girls, valuable in bringing in customers. Therefore, the bar may not be delighted to let you barfine them (ask the girl for a phone number directly in that case), and as better looking they might have sponsors be a bit more picky about punters they go with (if they don't like you, no way around that, paying a good chunk over the going rate may technically work, but it would buy you a dead fish). They are still working girls, though.
[QUOTE=MeEnLu;1644307]when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.[/QUOTE]As often as you damn want and can get it up. While you should always be polite with the women you're with (and it's best when there's some chemistry and effort on both sides), don't be a pushover, working girls can sense this, and often take advantage. Bottom line is that you're paying her to provide sexual services (plus a fantasy that she likes you to some extent, in some cases). She is free to evade or outright refuse at any point, but if you dislike the arrangement for any reason, you can pay her the agreed fee for the services rendered, and go find another one.
Don't make a deal for 5 days in advance, just get one long time session and extend it. I actually never even bother getting a long time outright, just get a short time, and extend if the chemistry is right. May well tell her you're looking for a longer deal, but don't commit to it.
To be honest, I rarely even get a girl for LT these days, the scene is not as mellow and lovey-dovey GFE as it used to be 10 years ago, and after busting one or two nuts don't care to sleep next to a woman who'd rather be somewhere else.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1645043]The one's walking on Beach road into W. S. I would never touch, they just do not appeal to me. On W. S. You might try Marlin Rouge? You can see girls dancing above in glass window and there are girls standing outside along the stairway. There is also another club next to Crazy House, there is also a club next to Pier Disco, The Old Tony's disco can't remember the new name there are some FL, and Mixx Disco, there might be some F. L. Too. Overall, expensive. Russians never has appeal to me even when I use to visit China City in Hong Kong, and Macau.[/QUOTE]Thanks LittleBigMan,
Informative as usual. Might not do it. Just trying to fit in as many different things into this trip as I can. Probably last and it breaks my heart.
Thanks.
JohnTheScot.
Hey guys,
2 weeks in on a 3 week visit and would like to report that there is plenty of ladies. So much so that some of the ladies are complaining and club Mamasan's complaining that there isn't enough mongers spending money. Great opportunity for mongers that are here. But in my opinion quality and quantity is up also but charges are up a little also. For instance stopped in Alcatraz last night, 30-40 ladies, and 7 mongers. Last year I had a hard time getting a seat. Also, there is a ton of Chinese and Japanese family tours of 30-40 people being lead by a leader with a flag up and down Walking Street. I don't know what the family fascination is, but I sure wouldn't bring my kids down there at night. All they do is clog everything up. Without them I think Walking St. Would show that Monger activity is down a little. Anyway, did take out from a BJ Bar on Soi 6 and ended up with a starfish. I am speechless on describing how a young girl in a BJ Bar that doesn't know how to provide a descent BJ. In contrast, I did the Telephone bar, and any of those ladies know what a BJ should be, looks in the 5-6 range but one of the best I have ever had. Did I-Bar and kept the lady for 2 days. Did Happy Go-go take out and kept her for 2 days. Did 3 massage parlors and found one lady that I asked to come to my hotel, she has visited me 3 times now with full service. If I keep a lady more than one day she keeps me happy. Recommend Beefeaters Pub on Soi Diana just up from Second Rd. Excellent Sunday brunch for 295 Baht. Visit hungry and you won't be disappointed. Have fun and be safe!
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1645439]Thanks LittleBigMan,
Informative as usual. Might not do it. Just trying to fit in as many different things into this trip as I can. Probably last and it breaks my heart.
Thanks.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear it! Then you got to go out with a BANG! Enjoy!
[QUOTE=FreeWillyBruh;1645187]Excellent report Bushwacker. It's been a few years since I've been in Patts. Was curious where ya'll recommend the best bar with big screen TV'S and perhaps some talent? Staying at a Flipper property.[/QUOTE]Google chick and coop Pattaya or check out link below. American Vet owner so stateside sports are always on. Watched 3 USA World Cup there. Good bar / crowd with free food.
[URL]http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/50672-chik-n-coop-bar/[/URL]
Sawadeeka. I love Thailand. Amazing Thailand. Had the best time of my life and thanks to all who replied to my PM and guided me to have such blast.
Will be reporting over the weekend.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1645387]As often as you damn want and can get it up. While you should always be polite with the women you're with (and it's best when there's some chemistry and effort on both sides), don't be a pushover, working girls can sense this, and often take advantage. Bottom line is that you're paying her to provide sexual services (plus a fantasy that she likes you to some extent, in some cases). She is free to evade or outright refuse at any point, but if you dislike the arrangement for any reason, you can pay her the agreed fee for the services rendered, and go find another one.
Don't make a deal for 5 days in advance, just get one long time session and extend it. I actually never even bother getting a long time outright, just get a short time, and extend if the chemistry is right. May well tell her you're looking for a longer deal, but don't commit to it.
To be honest, I rarely even get a girl for LT these days, the scene is not as mellow and lovey-dovey GFE as it used to be 10 years ago, and after busting one or two nuts don't care to sleep next to a woman who'd rather be somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Crocodilexp,
How many times you can bang a girl for long time needs to be discussed before you take. I have been with girls that after 20 minutes sometimes even 15 minutes they start saying its starting to get raw. Even with lube. Some girls can go a lot no problem but others cannot or do not want sex 5 times a day. This kind of thing need to be discussed with the girl.
[QUOTE=MaximusBibicus;1645609]Sawadeeka. I love Thailand. Amazing Thailand. Had the best time of my life and thanks to all who replied to my PM and guided me to have such blast.
Will be reporting over the weekend.[/QUOTE]"Sawadee ka" is said by women. Men say "sawadee khrap". :)
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1645784]"Sawadee ka" is said by women. Men say "sawadee khrap". :)[/QUOTE]Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
I've written half the report, just need to finish, copy and paste.
Khobun Khab.
[QUOTE=MaximusBibicus;1646001]Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
I've written half the report, just need to finish, copy and paste.
Khobun Khab.[/QUOTE]Sorry dude it's nice that you are trying but it's kob kuhn kop not khobun khab. But at least you are trying eventually you will get the hang of it.
LAT.
[QUOTE=MaximusBibicus;1646001]Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
Khobun Khab.[/QUOTE]Likely LBs saying that to you as hard to see how native Thai women would be saying it.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1646124]Sorry dude it's nice that you are trying but it's kob kuhn kop not khobun khab. But at least you are trying eventually you will get the hang of it.
LAT.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction dude. Likely to help next time haha.
[QUOTE=RunMann;1646141]Likely LBs saying that to you as hard to see how native Thai women would be saying it.[/QUOTE]Aha. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention.
[QUOTE=MaximusBibicus;1646164]Thanks for the correction dude. Likely to help next time haha.
Aha. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention.[/QUOTE]It's khoopkhun khrap. And women say khoopkhun kha.
Day 0 – transit from USA to BKK. Flights were on ANA connecting to Thai Air. Great service including unlimited red & white wine, whiskey, vodka, & gin and personal IFE on both flights in Economy Class.
Day 1 – Arrived in BKK at 5:20 am with virtually no line at immigration and took Mr. T Taxi for 1 K baht. Arrived in Pattaya at about 7:30 am. Dropped bags at Noble Place on Soi Post Office & wet to breakfast buffet at Cafe Pascal on 2nd Road. Only 700 baht rooms available at Noble place so I went 1 block over to Soi Yamato & stayed at SA apartments for 500 baht per night. Room was very clean & staff was friendly but low shower water pressure. Around lunch time I went for a 200 baht massage on soi Pizza Hut aka soi post office. Should have been one hour but it was less than 50 minutes so no tip.
After a short nap, I walked up toward LK Metro area massage shops. Just past the Triangle Bar behind Oasis I went back to Aree Massage. I liked a slightly husky girl who called me in for a 200 baht "oil massage". She asked for 400 baht HJ / BJ or 800 baht FS. I asked about about anal and she said "same-same 800". So my first pop on this trip was in a slightly skanky massage shop for total 1000 baht total but it was definitely fun.
Another nap in the hotel then it was off to Beach Road. Skinny girl named Pupe asked 1 K for FS including anal. She said both she & her friend could do anal. Took Pupe first the came back for her friend 2 hours later. Pupe was a but of a heavy moaner but no problem for the second girl. Just FYI, may options were available for 500 to 700 or 800 for FS but I was looking for anal which is more difficult to find and a little more expensive. Day 1 total 3 x 1 K baht for 3 girls.
3rd girl from day 1.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1646334]Day 0 transit from USA to BKK. Flights were on ANA connecting to Thai Air. Great service including unlimited red & white wine, whiskey, vodka, & gin and personal IFE on both flights in Economy Class.
Day 1 Arrived in BKK at 5:20 am with virtually no line at immigration and took Mr. T Taxi for 1 K baht. Arrived in Pattaya at about 7:30 am. Dropped bags at Noble Place on Soi Post Office & wet to breakfast buffet at Cafe Pascal on 2nd Road. Only 700 baht rooms available at Noble place so I went 1 block over to Soi Yamato & stayed at SA apartments for 500 baht per night. Room was very clean & staff was friendly but low shower water pressure. Around lunch time I went for a 200 baht massage on soi Pizza Hut aka soi post office. Should have been one hour but it was less than 50 minutes so no tip.
After a short nap, I walked up toward LK Metro area massage shops. Just past the Triangle Bar behind Oasis I went back to Aree Massage. I liked a slightly husky girl who called me in for a 200 baht "oil massage". She asked for 400 baht HJ / BJ or 800 baht FS. I asked about about anal and she said "same-same 800". So my first pop on this trip was in a slightly skanky massage shop for total 1000 baht total but it was definitely fun.
Another nap in the hotel then it was off to Beach Road. Skinny girl named Pupe asked 1 K for FS including anal. She said both she & her friend could do anal. Took Pupe first the came back for her friend 2 hours later. Pupe was a but of a heavy moaner but no problem for the second girl. Just FYI, may options were available for 500 to 700 or 800 for FS but I was looking for anal which is more difficult to find and a little more expensive. Day 1 total 3 x 1 K baht for 3 girls.[/QUOTE]I love Aree Massage. Many a fun time I had there. You are correct, it's nice and skanky. English Rose across the street has some nice rooms if you like staying in that area.
Day 2 AYCE lunch at shabu shabu buffet on the 5th floor of Central Festival for 329 baht including soft drinks, sushi & dessert then afternoon nap & massage. Night pretty much the same as first night pulled 3 girls ST at 1 K baht each. First two were spinners that did anal w / BBBJCIM, last FS w / BBBJCIMWS. I tried talking them down to 700 or 800 just to keep the market price but I was lazy & I usually tip up to 1 K anyway. All were good but only took pictures of first girl. PM for contact info.
Day 3 I changed my hotel to Jasmine Place on Soi BJ off Walking Street to hang with AMEXSPG. Hotel is under renovation with no restaurant & no pool but location can't be beat for Insomnia pickups. Room is nice with kitchenette & flatscreen TV, & AC but no window so room can be dark all day. Room is 750 baht per night for simple room.
My back was in pain from the 6 girls the first 3 nights so I did a Thai massage and slept from 6 pm to past midnight. Met up with AMEXSPG at 2 am to go to Insomnia. We did bottle service x 2, many rounds of slushie shots & I paid for breakfast at 7 am for 4 girls so damage was about 3 K baht just to party with many girls. It was my first time to hunt at a disco so fortunately, AMEX knew many girls & he set me up with ICE, a 3 holer for LT 1 K. No discussion about price. First round at 8 am was 3 hole sex but we were both a little drunk so no finish. It was actually my first LT so I didn't know how much to let her sleep. Finally around 1 pm, I was getting impatient so I rolled her over on her side and stuck it in. No complaints and she woke up moaning. Did her backdoor to completion and left 1 K on her clothes. She showered & I walked her out & gave her another 100 baht for the motorbike home. LT may not be my thing but partying at Insomnia was definitely great fun.
[QUOTE=TomSf;1645744]
How many times you can bang a girl for long time needs to be discussed before you take. I have been with girls that after 20 minutes sometimes even 15 minutes they start saying its starting to get raw. Even with lube. Some girls can go a lot no problem but others cannot or do not want sex 5 times a day. This kind of thing need to be discussed with the girl.[/QUOTE]You're correct, I guess. In this day and age it's necessary to discuss things that used to be understood in the past (like whether they do BBBJ, how many shags in a long time, whether kissing is allowed). Give it a few more years, it'll be like Amsterdam where taking off the bra is a special service.
Generally, the common standard for LT used to be 3 times: 2 shots in the evening and 1 in the morning. If you go beyond that, she has grounds to complain and still receive the full LT rate, but it never happened to me far. Either a girl is happy to provide a decent service (including that extra shot if you feel like it during the LT), or she's whiny and flaky from the very start. Not much middle ground.
If she's complaining after only 20 min, it's best to finish your business, kick her out, pay the short time rate, and go find another girl. Of course, it's basic human decency not to go too rough (unless she's ok with that), to use lube as needed, change positions, go slowly if she's uncomfortable, and let her finish you of with a good BBBJ if she really hurts and cannot continue. However, if despite being reasonable she's complaining, she surely is not someone I'd want to waste my precious time with. There's no shortage of working girls in Pattaya, not yet anyway.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1646647]Day 3 I changed my hotel to Jasmine Place on Soi BJ off Walking Street to hang with AMEXSPG. Hotel is under renovation with no restaurant & no pool but location can't be beat for Insomnia pickups. Room is nice with kitchenette & flatscreen TV, & AC but no window so room can be dark all day. Room is 750 baht per night for simple room.[/QUOTE]I was planning to stay here since iBar / Insomnia are 80% of my trip! I was planning on the Superior room for 950. I don't want to feel like I'm living in a prison in the standard room with no window! Did they say how long renovation will be for? I am planning to go late February.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1643291]The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Sorry. This must be repeated. Money and looks for that matter have no correlation with service. I can't speak for beer bars because I can't find anyone I like there. Gogos I rarely go to, because the places with girls I like have crazy BF. I spend most of time in discos. I have gotten amazing service from most of them. On my last trip. The one lazy starfish I had was was guess what. A gogo girl!
[QUOTE=TomSf;1642981]When your right your right. It was me that picked the restaurant mainly because it was close to my hotel and I just wanted to get her back to my room. If you would have seen this chicks body. I could not think right. She was so cute.
I left out the best part. When I walk on the street and its busy. After every five feet I look behind me to scan for motor bikes. They will zig zag between tourists sometimes. Well last night even though I was walking on the side of the street. I stopped scanning behind me. Next thing I know a motor bike hits me. Now it was going only 10 mph and hits me. I did not get hit with the wheel but the side of the bike. The lady did not even say sorry. WTF? At that point I had flashes in my head of kicking her bike to the ground, or grabbing her bike and pushing it to the ground. Then I had visions of the Thai police takes me to the police station ect. So I did nothing. At least I did not get hurt because it could have been a lot worse.[/QUOTE]Instead of looking behind you, why not walk against the flow of traffic so you can see the moto bikes in front of you?
Hi guys,
I'm in Pattaya in 2 weeks time on 6th for 2 weeks. Been there loads of times so know place pretty well. Would be good to hook up with some guys on the forum for beers and fun. Always better with a wing man.
If anyone is around at that time and fancies some beers then please PM me.
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1646899]Sorry. This must be repeated. Money and looks for that matter have no correlation with service. I can't speak for beer bars because I can't find anyone I like there. Gogos I rarely go to, because the places with girls I like have crazy BF. I spend most of time in discos. I have gotten amazing service from most of them. On my last trip. The one lazy starfish I had was was guess what. A gogo girl![/QUOTE]I could not agree more. Disco pickups at places like I-Bar or Red Car are my bread and butter and the main reason I think Patts beats other venues, like AC, where the cisco FL scene is less lively or non-existent.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1646903]Instead of looking behind you, why not walk against the flow of traffic so you can see the moto bikes in front of you?[/QUOTE]Of course, thai moto-bikes regularly go against the flow of traffic as well. They drive on the pavement or the wrong way of one-way streets. You have to have eyes all around to stay safe.
Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1647621]Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
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So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.[/QUOTE]For some unexplained reason, the Thai approach to supply and demand is to raise the price when the demand lessens. But it has been so long since I have been into a gogo, I'm not surprised. IF I want to pay high prices, I could just go to VANCOUVER, EH?
Just getting a bit excited about my next trip in 2 weeks so will be posting random shit and reading a lot more.
For those that have never been, living vicariously on the forum, still planning first trip and unsure, coming soon etc.
Typical Day in Pattaya (well for me anyway) .
1. Wake up, Get BJ from girl in bed that you might or might not remember name or which disco / gogo you met her at.
2. Have a 2 hour jacuzzi bath with girl from above, soaping you down while sipping a beer and trying to get rid of the hangover you have from last night.
3. Get rid of girl and answer text messages from random guy / guys you met last night and arrange to meet up for lunch.
4. Meet guys for lunch and reminisce on the fun from previous night, each filling in the mental blanks and telling you where you picked up your GF.
5. Head down to Tahitian Queen on Beach Road for a couple of beers and to look at lovely girls in bikinis and uinderwear while listening to ridiculously loud rock music.
6. Few beers, buy a few lady drinks, have a grope. If one takes your fancy pop off for a quickie in short time room, if not then no problem, the day is still young.
7. We decide we want some change of scenery so head over to soi 6 "just for a look".
8. Beer in couple of bars then we all head upstairs with a schoolgirl for an hour.
9. 20 minutes later we are all in bar finishing our beers.
10. Couple more beer bars and chat then we decide to head home for a siesta and shower before meeting up later for a "proper night out".
11. Have a sleep, shower, get some nice clothes on for the club / disco later.
12. Meet the guys at beer bar across from Viiew Talay 6 for some pre WS chat and fun.
13. Do a few in Soi Buakhao then head to Walking Street via Tim's Bar and couple bars on Soi Pattayaland 2 (not the gay ones) .
14. Hook up with some other random guy / guys we meet along the way.
15. Head to Walking Street and have a blast!!
16. Wake up (see number 1 above) .
Living The Dream in Pattaya. Can't wait.
JohnTheScot.
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1647621]Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.[/QUOTE]Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647677]Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.[/QUOTE]I'm 42 as well. You don't need a wingman. I generally go to sleep about 10. Sometimes I will wake up about 4 and run out to a disco to grab a girl to bring home. It's a 5 minute evolution for me. Other times, when I have friends in town we will go out and hang. The other morning I didn't make it home until 8:30 am from being in the discos from about 1 am.
(I think you asked about Russian chicks. I was going into Tipsy about 6:30 am that night and there was a tall, nice looking Russian chick walking in the same time as I was. I asked her how much she wanted. She said 5000. I told her to be serious. She said okay 3000. Still too much for me. If she would have come down to 2000 then I would have pounced on it, although I have never given anyone here 2000. Instead, when I didn't go for the 3000, she got angry and said in an angry tone, "You Can't Buy Me!" Well shit, that is what I was just attempting to do, but the price wasn't right.).
Remember that in some cases the disco girls are the same as the gogo girls as they do go to the discos after work. Last night I met a girl who said she works in Champagne agogo from 7 pm to 3 am. It was about 3:30 when I met her. I was feeling like a short girl though and ended up taking a midget home!
There are plenty of good ones, but it all boils down to what type of music you like as to which is good to you.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647679]Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]Came back from Patty 4 weeks ago. Only one girl from Gogo, 3000 LT. But was not worth it.
I was more into discos, especially "Red Car", just at beginning of WS. Not the youngest girls there, about middle of 20 and up.
Prices for me 1500-2000 LT.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1647730]I'm 42 as well. You don't need a wingman. I generally go to sleep about 10. Sometimes I will wake up about 4 and run out to a disco to grab a girl to bring home. It's a 5 minute evolution for me. Other times, when I have friends in town we will go out and hang. The other morning I didn't make it home until 8:30 am from being in the discos from about 1 am.
(I think you asked about Russian chicks. I was going into Tipsy about 6:30 am that night and there was a tall, nice looking Russian chick walking in the same time as I was. I asked her how much she wanted. She said 5000. I told her to be serious. She said okay 3000. Still too much for me. If she would have come down to 2000 then I would have pounced on it, although I have never given anyone here 2000. Instead, when I didn't go for the 3000, she got angry and said in an angry tone, "You Can't Buy Me!" Well shit, that is what I was just attempting to do, but the price wasn't right.).
Remember that in some cases the disco girls are the same as the gogo girls as they do go to the discos after work. Last night I met a girl who said she works in Champagne agogo from 7 pm to 3 am. It was about 3:30 when I met her. I was feeling like a short girl though and ended up taking a midget home!
There are plenty of good ones, but it all boils down to what type of music you like as to which is good to you.[/QUOTE]Where is Tipsy? I think I should check it out when I am in town next month.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1647621]Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.[/QUOTE]I don't do Go Go's because I have always felt the price was to high. For 5000 bht, I can get an Asian spinner here in the USA and save on plane fare and hotel.
They keep raising the price because they know foreigners will pay it. You paid the 1000 bht barfine, but you saved 500 bht on the girl and only paid her 2000st.
Now tell me again why the prices keep going up? LOL.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647677]Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]Yes John Handsome and modest. LOL.
Since you are so hansome, leave your wallet at home, go to the Go Go's and discos, then try your luck getting it for free.
In LOS for a foreigner money is handsome. Everything else is a distant second.
In my experiences over the past 3 weeks I have noticed the big GoGo's wanting 1000-1500 Baht bar fine. The best I could do was 700 after midnight at Happy. Windmill, Sugar Babies, etc. , were higher. So, I agree from my experiences from last year to this year prices are going up. I agree ST is 2000-2500 and LT 3000-4000 and up. Beer Bars are asking 300-500 Baht Bar Fine and usually 2000-2500 Baht LT. Don't know why, but I have noticed Japanese and Russian customers throwing Baht around at the ladies like drunken sailors, buying ping pong balls and ringing the bell for lady drinks for all the ladies. I myself, not handsome man, have walked away from many ladies this year after negotiations could not reduce the increased costs. I guess over time the current costs will seem like a real deal. But, a little effort at I-Bar or freelancers will reward you with 1000 Baht long time with no bar fine! Sadly, It must be inflation that is finally showing its ugly head in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647679]Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TellAll;1647744]I don't do Go Go's because I have always felt the price was to high. For 5000 bht, I can get an Asian spinner here in the USA and save on plane fare and hotel.
They keep raising the price because they know foreigners will pay it. You paid the 1000 bht barfine, but you saved 500 bht on the girl and only paid her 2000st.
Now tell me again why the prices keep going up? LOL.[/QUOTE]Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?
The airfare from the USA Runs you from 1,000-1500.00 and that is for coach which today I'll be generous and give you a 32-1 exchange rate = 32,000 baht. Sure 5,000 baht and Barfine is high and there are so many options here but if one had or wanted to it is still cheaper that is why everyone endure the hours to get here.
Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647677]Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]Hey you are a young man at 42, and the girls are not lying " you handsome man ". I've been to I-Bar, Insomia, and at my age it does help if you are with a wing man or a group. In these disco I do noticed the girls are more attracted to the younger guys, what girl or ladies in any disco around the world wouldn't. I say kudos to them! I'm old but not insecure and there are just too many options for even old guys like me. Even without a wing man do it, if they do not want you it is their lost move on with a smile and your your ego intact?
I'm been to nearly every Go-Go bar on Walking St, and when you speak of 2500/4500 the leader in pricing has to be Bacarra, which now has extended to the other Happy Group, Happy, Peppermit, not sure of Beach? I've had debates about this that Bacarra has no influence but twice now I have been at Happy, and the girls I spoke to wanted 2500/5000 baht. I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000. Basically I now pin point where I visit and when? In my experience I noticed more of the top ones from Soi 6, and Go Go's from LK Metro at the disco than from W.S. just my opinion.
I'm no night owl and staying up all night is not my thing due to many reason plus I have commitments on certain mornings but when I'm free I hit places like Marine, Isaan, Stone, even Bamboo for the older guys like me and found some great 35 year old gals that take good care of themselves. They are not stunners but does not required a bag over their heads providing some incredible service for 1,000/1500 baht all night. And if I do not find anything or do not want to pay the price on the way home I cruise to Soi Honey and get my usual Honey with a massage and ball massage FS for a 1,000 and she looks as good as any Go Go girl I have met. Then there is the Darkside where I live and places close at midnight and when I do not go out to the bright side they call and come to me.
Pattaya is like Hell to me, it is the wild west free to do whatever you want so many choices why would anyone want not to get on a airplane or go to Heaven unless it is Heaven Above.
I went to Walking Street the other day. Did a few go-go bars, tried Insomnia, and for whatever reason ended up at Rhino. It's very close to the Bali Hai pier end, and normally I don't go down that far, just orbiting around the middle section of WS, so this was my first time at Rhino.
I sat near the back of the go-go bar. Noticed an older (not so old) chick who was good looking and tried to hit on her. Bad luck: it was the mamasan! But she was flattered I had thought she was a coyote, so she set me up with a cute chick who, apparently, liked me. I barfined her for THB 1000 and went short-time for THB 2000. She thought we were going to my hotel but I told her to find a short-term hotel. I'm staying in a classy place a bit far out of the way, so there was no way I would show up with a go-go girl.
In the room she was very GFE. I loved every minute of it! She seemed to be enjoying herself too. She insisted several times that she only goes with guys whom she likes, and I believe her. I've got this feeling that in these go-go bars it's the girls who choose the guys more than the reverse. Sure you can point at a girl and try to take her out, but if she hasn't already put it into her little head that she wants to f*ck your brains out, you'll be disappointed with the waste of money.
Anyway, I was rock hard but I took a long time to come due to all the beers I had drunk. She was very patient, understanding and helpful, and in the end satisfaction was reached! She gave me her phone number, so maybe next time I can set something up with her directly.
Now that the Army is in charge, it looks like the 2 am cutoff is not really operational. WS was pretty lively until at least 4 am. That's a great thing!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1647862]Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?
The airfare from the USA Runs you from 1,000-1500.00 and that is for coach which today I'll be generous and give you a 32-1 exchange rate = 32,000 baht. Sure 5,000 baht and Barfine is high and there are so many options here but if one had or wanted to it is still cheaper that is why everyone endure the hours to get here.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Actually I never fly coach to Asia it's to long a flight for me in coach, but you are correct I go for the variety and the fun of hanging out with like minded friends in a place like that and the all around fun of it. Also my stays there are long. Two to three months at a time.
Don't know about massage parlors here, never been. I do have a couple Asian honeys here that charge me $120 an hour for service, but I have known them a long time. Funny thing is they fuck me for money but don't believe their Ho's cause they also have regular jobs.
I wasn't hating, if someone wants to pay 5000 for a lady in A go go, I say go for it. But if you are wondering why the prices keep going up. It's because guys keep paying it.
The only guys that chap my ass and I hear it a lot from guys over there, is the guys who claim they are getting fucked all the time for free. In Pattaya? Yeah right.
Will be back in January, can't wait.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647679]Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]I got a stunning 19 yo for 3000ST a few weeks ago from a gogo in Walking Street. Bar fine was 700 if I remember well. Anyway no more than 1000.
Every once in a while I try my luck with a gogo girl and in most cases I'm disappointed. But this girl was so damn beautiful and nice and quite fresh from the farm that I just had to have her. She quoted me 3000 and I asked for how long: 1 hour? 2 hours? She said 2 hours so I accepted.
I had a surprisingly good session with her in my hotel. She was just as nice and sweet and easy going outside the gogo as she had been inside, and that is quite rare these days. And she gave an amazingly good BBBJ for a 19 yo.
All in all she stayed in my room for 2 hours so she didn't even make it back to the gogo within 2 hours. So I was really lucky as most girls will quote you 2500 for 1 hour, meaning she has to be back in the gogo after 1 hour maximum. Although honestly I don't know how strict they are on that. Maybe some will say after 50 minutes: time's up, you can jerk off now if you want to cum, I have to go LOL!
To the quiet man who gets more ass in Pattaya than a toilet seat on Walking Street, major thanks to that Pipe Layer. Being a somewhat of a newbie I will never catch up to your female encounters, but I can dream. Just keep it up (in many ways), proud to party with you and have known you. Your guidance and tips paid major dividends in my travels this last trip. You truly are a journeyman of all erotic venues in Pattaya. Thanks again, hope to be back soon!
[QUOTE=TellAll;1647896]Actually I never fly coach to Asia it's to long a flight for me in coach, but you are correct I go for the variety and the fun of hanging out with like minded friends in a place like that and the all around fun of it. Also my stays there are long. Two to three months at a time.
Don't know about massage parlors here, never been. I do have a couple Asian honeys here that charge me $120 an hour for service, but I have known them a long time. Funny thing is they fuck me for money but don't believe their Ho's cause they also have regular jobs.
I wasn't hating, if someone wants to pay 5000 for a lady in A go go, I say go for it. But if you are wondering why the prices keep going up. It's because guys keep paying it.
The only guys that chap my ass and I hear it a lot from guys over there, is the guys who claim they are getting fucked all the time for free. In Pattaya? Yeah right.
Will be back in January, can't wait.[/QUOTE]Not sure where the hating come in? Did I say that? I never worry about what people are paying what is the point! A few months back I was sitting next to this guy in a go go, I over heard when the Mamasan came to him with a tab for the Barfine 5700 baht, 700 was included the BF, it was for LT. He had the biggest smile on his face. Who the hell was I to tell him he was over paying. The guy was young good looking most likely haven't had it in a year but tonight he was the man? When the girl he pay for came dress and ready to leave I couldn't believe she had the nerve to ask for 5,000 baht. But more power to her she got it!
I not one of those guys who think they are getting it for free, if I did, I would run for the hills because there is got to be a motive for it. I'm old and for sure not handsome! I rather pay for it and when I do I just expect to get the best bang for my baht?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1647867]
I'm been to nearly every Go-Go bar on Walking St, and when you speak of 2500/4500 the leader in pricing has to be Bacarra, which now has extended to the other Happy Group, Happy, Peppermit, not sure of Beach? I've had debates about this that Bacarra has no influence but twice now I have been at Happy, and the girls I spoke to wanted 2500/5000 baht. I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000.
Pattaya is like Hell to me, it is the wild west free to do whatever you want so many choices why would anyone want not to get on a airplane or go to Heaven unless it is Heaven Above.[/QUOTE]This is my experience as well. My Happy girl wanted 2500 bt for ST and the barfine was 700 bt for a grand total of 3200. I thought the 2500 bt was a tad high considering that the previous night my hot Sensations agency girl only wanted 2000 bt for ST although the Sensations barfine was 1000 bt /1500 bt before and after midnight for a grand total of 3500 (it was 9:30 pm when I wanted to take her and I did not feel like waiting 2. 5 hours to save 500 bt.) I did not negotiate with either girl and I bought a couple of rounds to Tequila both nights to warm us up before I got around to asking them out. Both girls gave me excellent service and we spent a few hours together. ST was 1 shot and they did not spend the night although both girls were more than wiling to stay longer and have more sex. In fact the Happy girl was very interested in hooking up again the next night and she called me around 9:30 pm to see what I was up to. I was at Lisa Bar at the time and I told her to come join me there for a drink. 15 minutes later she arrived on a motorcycle taxi. She ended up staying the night and we had multiple shags. I gave her 4000 bt in the morning and she was very happy with that amount. There was no barfine.
The point of my post is that I look upon quoted Go Go prices as a beginning framework and I consider these prices as more or less non negotiable for the first time I take a girl. I never negotiate! If the price is too high I withdraw my invitation because an outrageous price quote is usually an indication the girl does not want to go with me. This is never a big deal because there are hundreds of girls waiting in the wings that are just dying for me to show some interest in them. PATTAYA IS STILL A BUYERS MARKET! My modus operandi is to spend a little time with the girls I am attracted to and to size her up before we even start talking about barfines to make sure she is ok. Besides, I am on holiday and I like to have a good time in the bar and elsewhere before taking my girl to my hotel room. I usually buy a couple rounds of Tequila shots to loosen everybody up including myself. The result is I am nearly always given a great response from my Pattaya and BKK Go Go girls. I can't even remember when my the last disappointing session was. It had to be a couple of years ago. I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.
One more tip for relating to Go Go girls: for 1st time takeouts I recommend only go ST. If everything is good chances are she will be more than willing to stay longer or want to see you again and this 4500-5000 bt LT thing won't even come up. But if it does you can just say that is a little too high and so you prefer to keep it ST. I personally consider 4000bt my ceiling for Walking Street Go Go quality LT although if the girl is truly sensational and I already had sex with her and know how good she is, I would probably pay up and not let 500bt get in my way. But this is not a negotiation. I find my girls are much more friendly and willing to go LT at more reasonable rates (we don't even talk money) after they have had my dick inside them at least once and the ice between us has been broken. These are good girls. I treat them right and more times than not, I receive a lot more from them in return. It is called the GFE.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1647677]Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.[/QUOTE]You don't really need a wingman. Check my posts from my May and August trips to see how its done. Dress nice -like you would to go to a club back home, approach with a big smile, and be confident (not cocky) and its like shooting fish in a barrel.
Stay horny my friend...
Uncle-V
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1648068]I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.[/QUOTE]NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.
But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1648162]NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.
But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.[/QUOTE]NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1647862]Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?[/QUOTE]Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1648162]NB, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.[/QUOTE]I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment. I have no inside information or special relationships going on in the Pattaya bars although a few girls always remember me from previous trips and it is always nice to get back together with them. I admit that in Baccara BKK where I am very well known, I do receive special attention and treatment because I am considered a loyal regular customer. LOL. I never abuse my special privileges and just like to blend into the scene. I am looking forward to my next trip real bad.
My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else i.e. I am a slightly above average American punter in looks and spending capacity with a fair amount of experience who walks into popular Walking Street Go Go's cold turkey with a good attitude and a sharp eye. I know the price structure before I walk through the door. I also know Thai Go Go girls and their body language and facial gestures. That is one of the ways I can usually tell when something is not right. I truly believe that if punters spent a little time with a girl getting to know her, having some fun, and trying to create a little chemistry the percentage of quality barfines will dramatically increase and certain bad signs or tells would emerge that will warn a discerning punter off the girl if he is paying any attention. My methods are not fool proof and anybody including myself can have a bad Go Go girl experience once in a long while. I would say 1 bad experience in 10 is acceptable although these stats can definitely be improved upon. If a punter is getting less favorable experiences on Walking Street then I am saying something is wrong. And RTFF. There are certain bars that are no good and foster really bad attitudes in their girls. One should avoid those bars at all cost. But following my methods which are just based on just good common sense, the odds of barfining a bad girl should really decrease markedly. All I am saying is it works for me plus I have a real good time hunting in the bars and Go Go's. This is what I call entertainment. Oh yeah, I love Thai Bar Girls. I think that helps a lot although at the same time I never play the fool.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1648163]NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.[/QUOTE]Two or three Tequilas don't make me or most bar girls drunk. I find that all a couple shots do is loosen things up and creates a warm party vibe between me and the girl (s) that is very conducive for having great sex later. If a couple of shots of Tequila has a negative effect on you then by all means cut that step out. You should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1648180]I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment...My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else [/QUOTE]NB, I should know better than to criticize you. IMO, you are a treasure to ISG. Really, what I meant to say is that your experience applies to a certain segment of the mongering population, namely Caucasians and Asian ethnicity. It does not apply to all other ethnicity. BTW, I tried to send you this message via a PM but your inbox is apparently full.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1648163]NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.[/QUOTE]I am one of those guys that like to drink. That's why I do my mongering before my cocktail hour hits.
When I meet a girl that interest me after my drinking starts, I'll talk and buy a drink or two to check the chemistry and for warning signs. Even if all seems well I don't take her that night. I return another day when I'm not boozing as much.
It works in my favor when I tell them I came back just to see them.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1648164]Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I love it there also. Always have a blast. I don't really go anywhere mongering to save money. I go to have fun.
I just have my limit on what I am willing to spend on a woman in a particular market, including the USA.
I assume everyone does it just varies from monger to monger.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1648164]Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I too am from the City as they call it? So I do know a thing about Massage parlors. I do not disagree with you but as you know if you know massage parlor they are not what they were in the 90's, after the raid on human traffic it has not been the same. Pretty much gone OnLine? But there are still some good places as you noted.
But I was just as they say stretching to make a point! Even at the prices you refer take that amount and you can get much more than a hour! And that is why you come as you noted!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1648180]IYou should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.[/QUOTE]Wise words, as always, my friend.
I find the mistake that I have made is getting fixated on a girl and ignoring the tell tale signs that I should abort mission. You start thinking that you can make her like you. This may be true, but it really is not worth the hassle and it is more likely end badly when the chemistry is not there from the get go.
Like you said, its a buyers market -- best to move on when you start feeling you are not clicking with the girl. When I have followed this strategy its always turned out really well for me. One time I was with an absolute stunner at Crystals but the vibe was just not right. So I bailed on her and moved on to Destiny and had a gorgeous bar girl literally jump off stage into my arms to make out with me. Went back to my pad for one of my most memorable shags ever.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1647867]I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000. Basically I now pin point where I visit and when? In my experience I noticed more of the top ones from Soi 6, and Go Go's from LK Metro at the disco than from W.S. just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.
[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1647891]I went to Walking Street the other day. Did a few go-go bars, tried Insomnia, and for whatever reason ended up at Rhino. It's very close to the Bali Hai pier end, and normally I don't go down that far, just orbiting around the middle section of WS, so this was my first time at Rhino.
...
Anyway, I was rock hard but I took a long time to come due to all the beers I had drunk. She was very patient, understanding and helpful, and in the end satisfaction was reached! She gave me her phone number, so maybe next time I can set something up with her directly.
Now that the Army is in charge, it looks like the 2 am cutoff is not really operational. WS was pretty lively until at least 4 am. That's a great thing![/QUOTE]That's an interesting coincidence. I just wanted to write about my experience at Rhino. I visited the place several times in the past and found a few great gals there. However, then it deteriorated and for a while even became an open bar. They must have noticed their mistake. It is a normal go go bar again.
When I was there on Saturday, a quite nice girl came to me. She was not perfectly my type. But what she told me made sense. She said that I should not buy her drinks, but she prefers a tip. She needs money to pay for her room. She would give me a great service and do a great BJ. Since this sounded credible, I agreed. She also said that she would stay LT, which normally would be 4000. But she would do it for 3000 (which used to be the normal rate just a couple of months ago). ST would be 2500, by the way. Bar fine was 1000, which I reluctantly accepted.
However, when we left, she told me that she made a mistake. She had been in the bar for only a few days and had not been taken out since. Therefore, she did not know that the bar fine for ST is 1500. What the f! Such bar fine is definitely beyond my limit, and I told her no way.
Well, at my hotel, we really had a great time. She gave me a good BBBJ and I gave her a DATY until she almost came. Then we did the deed for quite a while, and she came at least once. Finally, I also shot my load. Then, however, she was nervous. She said that either she has to pay the 500 additional bar fine, or she has to go back to the bar. Since I had my relief already and since I was hungry, I told her to go back to Rhino. I accompanied her, and while she went back to the bar, I had a nice after-midnight dinner.
Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.
Wonderer.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1648391]Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.[/QUOTE]LOL. Then some more LOL. Since there are so many Go-Gos in Pattaya and not that many punters who are lose with their purse-strings (paying ridiculous bar fines and ST / LT rates), they are having to do freelance work. Well, no surprises.
Hope Pipe and you are hitting the town hard, how's the high season coming along? (not too many reports forthcoming on either the BKK or Pats pages generally).
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1648163]NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys, I wasn't calling anyone a drunk. I was just adding drunkiness to the list of undesirable things to some bg's.
Gentlemen and esteemed colleagues.
I was in Pattaya in September and went to obtain some Cialus. The Pharmachist, apparently an honet lady said I need a Prescription and in its place recommended an Item whose name I can not recall. It came in a package of 4 pills and the pills were capsules large capsules full of black pellets.
Can anyone provide the name of this pill.
It was slow to react but work well and lasted about 36 hours if I recalled. There were no side or after affects at all.
I would buy again.
You help would be appreciated.
PP.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1648394]That's an interesting coincidence. I just wanted to write about my experience at Rhino. I visited the place several times in the past and found a few great gals there. However, then it deteriorated and for a while even became an open bar. They must have noticed their mistake. It is a normal go go bar again.
When I was there on Saturday, a quite nice girl came to me.
(...)
Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.
[/QUOTE]If there is an emerging pattern of Rhino girls willing to exchange phone numbers with the men and make private arrangements behind the back of the management, then maybe they are not being treated competitively in terms of money and / or rules by Rhino?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1648391]Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one.[/QUOTE]I have been told a similar story by a modeling agency coyote some time ago. I believe it was in Sensations agogo. She said they have to work for 10 days in a row and then they can do whatever they want. They can work another 10 days, go back home for a week or a year, take a vacation, whatever.
So what it comes down to is they have to work for at least 10 days whenever and where ever they want and for the rest it is completely up to them. For a fixed salary and of course the revenue from the lady drinks and the bar fines (if they do bar fines).
I've seen worse working conditions, LOL!
Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap.
Stepped out of the hotel again at about 8 pm after chalking out a plan over few drinks in our rooms, (four of us had our own separate rooms). Went strolling around walking street, checking out all the GO GO bars, and ended up in Moulin Rouge, loved the European women out there, who give you excellent lap dances for a mere tip of THB 100. Don't really remember how many of them gave me a lap dance. You also have an option of buying them a lady drink of THB 400. Which is pointless, as the woman who you buy a drink for, would stick to you like she's your GF. The idea in Pattaya is not to stick to a single girl, and try to get a feel of the maximum number of girls, so I wouldn't recommend buying that lady drink, and rather tip every girl THB 100 you might end up getting about 10-12 lap dances, which is better than having one girl sit next to you, and whisper sweet nothings.
Moving on.
We stepped out at about 10 PM, had some delicious street food (Turkish and Thai) and headed to Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
At Insomnia, we were greeted at the gate, and led up stairs, they had some good offers on alcohol, THB 2000 for a bottle of Baccardi, which entitles us to get a table on the dance floor, THB 2000 for a bottle is a reasonable deal, so we picked up 2 bottles, mixers and some finger food, and got us a table on the dance floor. Once you get a table, a lot of girls approach you for lady drinks, which if I'm not mistaken, costs about THB 200 for a shot of tequila or whatever is in those shot glasses.
In Insomnia, there are 2 types of women, some who work for the bar as dancers, and some who come in as free lancers. The best way to know who is who, is to buy lady drinks for the dancers, who will then join you in your table, but these dancers can only leave the club with you after 4 am, and that too with a bar fine of THB 1000-1500. But that doesn't mean they won't help you get hooked up with a free lancers. All you need to do is chat up with the dancers, get friendly, buy them drinks, and they would parade you with the best freelancers, or whichever girl you point out to. So like I said, they got us girls, who negotiated a deal of THB 3000 for the whole night, after fixing the deal, the fun began.
Freelance girls are either working in other Gogo bars, or have a day job and as claimed by them, they do no go out on a regular basis with men, they just do it for fun and some extra money over the weekends. I still don't know how much of this is true though. But surely, freelance girls give you the perfect GFE that you may want to enjoy at a club, and back in your hotel room.
Day 2- bid good bye to the girl after some breakfast, as her shift at the salon she works in starts at 12. Then headed to some of the malls to do a bit of shopping and lunch. Post lunch, headed to Honey Soapy massage (Honey 1), picked up a nice dusky big busted chic, who looked like a mix of Latin and Thai (I could compare her to a slightly dusky Tera Patrick), although she was very mechanical, she had the most amazing eyes, figure and skin. I couldn't hold my load for too long, and blew it out. Post Honey, headed out for some authentic Thai massage, wasn't expecting anything other than a massage, but it surely loosened up every part of my body, so relaxing that I just felt like going back to my hotel room for some deep sleep. Fought that feeling, and headed back to Walking street.
The same drill as day 1. Visited some GoGos, got a few lap dance and by the time it was 11 pm, headed to Insomnia. The experience was great the previous night, we didn't want to waste any more time exploring other places. This time, we were treated as VIP (considering the fact that we spent about THB 30000 the previous night, buying drinks for almost all the dancers, and some free lancers, tipping the door man, and most waiters). As we entered, the security escorted us with torches, and led us through the crowded club to our table, we were greeted by most of the bar dancers, and waiters. Felt good to be treated right. (unlike that shit hole MIXX). Once settled, we ordered our regular, but this time, stuck to just 1 bottle, since all of us were feeling a little lethargic after that Thai massage. The bar girls got more friendly with us, giving us lap dances, on our table, and also DFK's whenever they got close. One of the bar girl, also took me into their changing room, and gave me a nice BBBJ all for THB 500. Why not!!
Picked up a sweet red headed girl recommended by the bar dancer, (who I'm still in touch with on FB). Had a nice session with her in my room which ended up till breakfast. Multiple showers together after each session, BBBJ in the shower you name it, I got it all.
After breakfast, we checked out of the hotel, and headed to BKK, where we planned to spend a day. I must say, compared to Pattaya, BKK is disappointing, not many choices, since we heard that the clubs get full on a Saturday night, and your chances of getting a good freelancer is minimal. So we ended up going to NEP, which was like a shopping mall with GOGO bars, went to one club, loved most of the girls there, picked up 3 girls and struck up a deal with the mamasan for THB 4000 for the night, for each girl, and THB 700 as bar fine. My friends picked up their chicks, but I couldn't find a good one, but I kept noticing the bar manager, she was hot, and very busy running from table to table, ensuring the patrons are fine. I asked mamasan if she is available, and Bingo. I struck a deal with her for THB 4000. The girl was hot, a bit dusky, short haired, 36 the and smelt great, the best part was, she spoke perfect english. But the only issue was, she slept off after 1 pop, I was hoping to get a second pop in the morning, but we were rudely awaken by the mamasan's phone call who demanded the girls to return back to the den. That was a disappointment.
Headed for some more shopping, and then went to Annie's soapy. Had an awesome experience there too, once done, headed straight to the airport, and was on my way back to India.
I hope my FR on this trip was detailed enough to give some of you a hint on what to expect and what's best to do in Pattaya. I would recommend Pattaya more than BKK, as next time, we would only head to BKK to catch a flight, and nothing else, and if we have 3 hours before our flight, I'll go to Annie's.
Once again, sorry for the long FR. Hope it helps.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1648661]Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
[/QUOTE]Great 1st report Snoozy! If I ever get married I'll put you in charge of organizing the Bachelor Party. Haha!
I to am a big fan of Insomnia, though I stick to the down stairs bar where I think the music is much better. It can get pretty crowded upstairs, and since I am usually flying solo it does not make much sense to get a table.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1648661]Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap.
Stepped out of the hotel again at about 8 pm after chalking out a plan over few drinks in our rooms, (four of us had our own separate rooms). Went strolling around walking street, checking out all the GO GO bars, and ended up in Moulin Rouge, loved the European women out there, who give you excellent lap dances for a mere tip of THB 100. Don't really remember how many of them gave me a lap dance. You also have an option of buying them a lady drink of THB 400. Which is pointless, as the woman who you buy a drink for, would stick to you like she's your GF. The idea in Pattaya is not to stick to a single girl, and try to get a feel of the maximum number of girls, so I wouldn't recommend buying that lady drink, and rather tip every girl THB 100 you might end up getting about 10-12 lap dances, which is better than having one girl sit next to you, and whisper sweet nothings.
Moving on.
We stepped out at about 10 PM, had some delicious street food (Turkish and Thai) and headed to Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
At Insomnia, we were greeted at the gate, and led up stairs, they had some good offers on alcohol, THB 2000 for a bottle of Baccardi, which entitles us to get a table on the dance floor, THB 2000 for a bottle is a reasonable deal, so we picked up 2 bottles, mixers and some finger food, and got us a table on the dance floor. Once you get a table, a lot of girls approach you for lady drinks, which if I'm not mistaken, costs about THB 200 for a shot of tequila or whatever is in those shot glasses.
In Insomnia, there are 2 types of women, some who work for the bar as dancers, and some who come in as free lancers. The best way to know who is who, is to buy lady drinks for the dancers, who will then join you in your table, but these dancers can only leave the club with you after 4 am, and that too with a bar fine of THB 1000-1500. But that doesn't mean they won't help you get hooked up with a free lancers. All you need to do is chat up with the dancers, get friendly, buy them drinks, and they would parade you with the best freelancers, or whichever girl you point out to. So like I said, they got us girls, who negotiated a deal of THB 3000 for the whole night, after fixing the deal, the fun began.
Freelance girls are either working in other Gogo bars, or have a day job and as claimed by them, they do no go out on a regular basis with men, they just do it for fun and some extra money over the weekends. I still don't know how much of this is true though. But surely, freelance girls give you the perfect GFE that you may want to enjoy at a club, and back in your hotel room.
Day 2- bid good bye to the girl after some breakfast, as her shift at the salon she works in starts at 12. Then headed to some of the malls to do a bit of shopping and lunch. Post lunch, headed to Honey Soapy massage (Honey 1), picked up a nice dusky big busted chic, who looked like a mix of Latin and Thai (I could compare her to a slightly dusky Tera Patrick), although she was very mechanical, she had the most amazing eyes, figure and skin. I couldn't hold my load for too long, and blew it out. Post Honey, headed out for some authentic Thai massage, wasn't expecting anything other than a massage, but it surely loosened up every part of my body, so relaxing that I just felt like going back to my hotel room for some deep sleep. Fought that feeling, and headed back to Walking street.
The same drill as day 1. Visited some GoGos, got a few lap dance and by the time it was 11 pm, headed to Insomnia. The experience was great the previous night, we didn't want to waste any more time exploring other places. This time, we were treated as VIP (considering the fact that we spent about THB 30000 the previous night, buying drinks for almost all the dancers, and some free lancers, tipping the door man, and most waiters). As we entered, the security escorted us with torches, and led us through the crowded club to our table, we were greeted by most of the bar dancers, and waiters. Felt good to be treated right. (unlike that shit hole MIXX). Once settled, we ordered our regular, but this time, stuck to just 1 bottle, since all of us were feeling a little lethargic after that Thai massage. The bar girls got more friendly with us, giving us lap dances, on our table, and also DFK's whenever they got close. One of the bar girl, also took me into their changing room, and gave me a nice BBBJ all for THB 500. Why not!!
Picked up a sweet red headed girl recommended by the bar dancer, (who I'm still in touch with on FB). Had a nice session with her in my room which ended up till breakfast. Multiple showers together after each session, BBBJ in the shower you name it, I got it all.
After breakfast, we checked out of the hotel, and headed to BKK, where we planned to spend a day. I must say, compared to Pattaya, BKK is disappointing, not many choices, since we heard that the clubs get full on a Saturday night, and your chances of getting a good freelancer is minimal. So we ended up going to NEP, which was like a shopping mall with GOGO bars, went to one club, loved most of the girls there, picked up 3 girls and struck up a deal with the mamasan for THB 4000 for the night, for each girl, and THB 700 as bar fine. My friends picked up their chicks, but I couldn't find a good one, but I kept noticing the bar manager, she was hot, and very busy running from table to table, ensuring the patrons are fine. I asked mamasan if she is available, and Bingo. I struck a deal with her for THB 4000. The girl was hot, a bit dusky, short haired, 36 the and smelt great, the best part was, she spoke perfect english. But the only issue was, she slept off after 1 pop, I was hoping to get a second pop in the morning, but we were rudely awaken by the mamasan's phone call who demanded the girls to return back to the den. That was a disappointment.
Headed for some more shopping, and then went to Annie's soapy. Had an awesome experience there too, once done, headed straight to the airport, and was on my way back to India.
I hope my FR on this trip was detailed enough to give some of you a hint on what to expect and what's best to do in Pattaya. I would recommend Pattaya more than BKK, as next time, we would only head to BKK to catch a flight, and nothing else, and if we have 3 hours before our flight, I'll go to Annie's.
Once again, sorry for the long FR. Hope it helps.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?
[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1648661]Hey all,
Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
(unlike that shit hole MIXX).
Cheers![/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR SnoozyBoozy. My doubts about Mixx being racist now seem to be confirmed. I had gone to the one in Intercontinental, Bangkok in first week of November and was turned down saying it was a "Members Only" night even though I was alone. Thought mine would have been a rare occurrence. I still don't know if both are being run by the some private management or intercontinental management or not but attitude is definitely same I. E. Purely racist.
I don't visit or avoid as much as possible unless any buddy desperately insists on a place which sees money as white, black or brown instead of green. Mixx seems to be one of such places.
Good you guys ignored the place and moved on like I did rather then giving into their stupid dictat on how one should enter their club.
[QUOTE=Moegy;1648842]Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?[/QUOTE]Rightly said Moegy, not only one can save money for having more fun but paying such prices ruins the market place also for everyone else. I am a sucker for Bar FLs and prefer to visit such places over go go's as I have had good GFE with these girls in past. I would definitely mind if a girl started asking me double or triple price for no logical reason whatsoever.
I committed mistake of paying what the girls asked for during my maiden trip to BKK in Spasso, Climax, etc in November first week. But as beginners luck was favouring me in terms of quality of women encountered I put it behind as a rookie mistake.
There is no way I will be paying similar prices on my next trip for sure. This forum provides experiences and FRs from Seniors and members at all times and is a good benchmark for prices to be paid.
Hey guys,
Thanks for the tips. It was my first time in Thailand, and all 3 of my friends who accompanied me, had been there at least twice or thrice before, and all of us were under the impression that standard rates for an overnight with a freelancer was THB 3000 in Pattaya, and THB 4000 in BKK. I should have negotiated harder. Well that's something to learn for next time. Will bring down the prices.
We were comparing prices to Soapy massages, which starts from THB 2000-THB 3000 depending on the parlours, so we thought THB 3000 was a good deal for an LT session. Will be careful next time. And BTW I forgot to mention in my FR, one of my friends who was with us in Pattaya, on the second night, took the same girl which he took the first night, and she didn't take a penny from him the second time. So it all depends on the rapport you build with the girls.
The best part is, I have made quite a few freelancer friends in Pattaya, that I just need to inform them before visiting next time, and probably I could sneak a pop for free.
At Uncle V: We can plan for your bachelors when its time.
At Illusionheart: Mixx is not the only place that is racist, there are couple of GOGO bars in NEP, BKK, that have similar kind of discrimination.
[QUOTE=Moegy;1648842]Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?[/QUOTE]The Racism issue does exist at Mixx and it is a shame it happens but Mixx is not the only one. Although a good report I came away with a sense that the BM was compensating by paying more?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1648391]Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.[/QUOTE]This is the chick.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1649099]The Racism issue does exist at Mixx and it is a shame it happens but Mixx is not the only one. Although a good report I came away with a sense that the BM was compensating by paying more?[/QUOTE]I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.
Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.
[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1649070]
At Uncle V: We can plan for your bachelors when its time.
[/QUOTE]Haha! Thanks Snoozy! At least I now have one good reason to get married. But lets try to keep the price of this BP down. 2K LT is probably the limit for LT on FLs and we should try for 1.5K as the average.
Nice and detailed FR.
We (I + 5) too also planning for one bachelor party in Thailand.
Your FR is really helpful.
[QUOTE=SnoozyBoozy;1648661]Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap...[/QUOTE]
Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.
[QUOTE=Moegy;1649255]I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.
Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.[/QUOTE]When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?
That being said not a expert! This generalization and profile Thais have of Indians have been passed on to all Indians even those that have been educated and brought up or live in the West.
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1649396]Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.[/QUOTE]Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.
Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1649581]When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?.[/QUOTE]On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.
[QUOTE=Tptp76;1649690]On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.[/QUOTE]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.
Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.
FYI. Just two weeks ago a buddy and I were sitting at one of the 10-12 bars that back up to the water, I think one of bars facing walking street says Frog something across from Sugar Babies. Anyway, we were enjoying our beers and having fun watching all the girls scream at that the guys walking in trying to get them to come to their bar. They held up signs like, "Free Blow Job", "Fuck me tonight pay me tomorrow", etc. As the guy or group of guys walked in these ladies would scream their lungs out to try to get the attentions of the new prospective customers walking in. Well, we watched this for well over an hour laughing with girls and watching the reaction of the prospective new customers. Then, a group of 5-6 Indians walked in and you could hear a pin drop, every girl in all the bars, I guess about 80-100 ladies, ignored the Indians like they were not even there. I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on Beach Road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1-2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IAmRamesh86;1649947]Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan![/QUOTE]Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.
[QUOTE=OfficialKnight;1649981]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1650066] I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".[/QUOTE]Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.
[QUOTE=IAmRamesh86;1649947]Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan![/QUOTE]Buddy where are welcome?
Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.
For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.
[QUOTE=Wandere;1650134]Buddy where are welcome?
Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.
For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.[/QUOTE]Indians always seem to stroll around in groups of 4. Why don't you guys try splitting up and try going around alone?
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1649747]That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.[/QUOTE]This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 and every time I have seen groups of Indians (including the very recognisable Sikhs) trawling the Jakarta bars and discos. They were not behaving very nice towards other people.
A few simple examples from my own experience:
- Check-in time at Atlet Century; guests line up to check in at a number of staff. In walks an Indian family, barges past the lines and wants to check in. The staff managed to remain polite and sent them back to the start of the line;.
- Check-in at Atlet Century; an Indian family checks in and wants to pay a deposit with some extremely decrepit dollar bills. The staff does not accept these bills (hotel policy) whereupon the Indian matron asks "Do YOU have a problem with these bills?" No, the lady did not, but hotel policy did.
I started to understand why people dislike Indians.
Regards,
Ko.
Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?
Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?
Just joking fellas!
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1650114]Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.
You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.
Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.[/QUOTE]Guys,
I have returned to 16 " happy" trips with the LOS, in spite of being shown the palm, and the occassional cold stare at the door. I have realized that the thai people are very friendly and not racist. It is" management policy" that has been framed over many undesirable incidents involving our countrymen. Any flight in has at least one boisterous group who will surely leave a bad taste in some mamasans mouth soon, adding another red flag to the above policy!
Yes, the "decent" monger is conspicuous by travelling solo. And sought after too, but only if he is considerate and generous.
Over the many trips the phone nos in my mobile secret folder has grown, reference by ref, and the go-go crawl is only a formality.
So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.
NM.
[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1650237]This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 ..
Regards,
Ko.[/QUOTE]I am surprised to learn the situation is the same in Indonesia (Jakarta), because whilst I was in Bali, I noticed that the locals quite like Indians and I attributed that to them being Hindu (just like a majority of Indians) and having similar religious practices. May be I just saw it from one perspective. I do understand what you mean, a group of Indians tend to become a rowdy bunch soon and they will make it a point to be loud and disrespectful towards non-Indians (and this happens in many countries).
[QUOTE=NuMonger;1650269]
So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.
NM.[/QUOTE]I think this topic gets done to death every time someone reports that they were denied entry at a particular place, I report on that quite often but only to warn ISG brethren. But being denied is no secret (I too attribute it to management and not to the girls) and like you said you just move on and build your contact database by hunting in places that are fine with us.
[QUOTE=OfficialKnight;1649981]Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Don't worry my friend, basically thai people hate everybody not only indians. Together with japanese are the most racist in the world. There are body massages in Bangkok (Pertchburi road) where "only Asian are allowed" . Many regular places in Pattaya like Crocodile Farm or Pattaya Park etc. Etc. Got two prices, one for thai and one for "farangs". "Thai rak Thai" ("thai loves thai") was the name of the political party leading the nation for years. No chance to have any normal relationship with locals that is not a matter of money.
About Indians, if you go to Bangkok there are places like CM2 Discoteque or Spasso fully loaded with Russians chiks and Hi-so local prostitutes, they seem to prefer Indians, Arabs and Russians. Maybe they got some skills about new economy, they know where the big money is.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1649618]Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.
Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy especially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:
1) Wannabe young Thai boxer (mostly French / Algerians).
2) Wannabe muscled tattooed gangsters (north Europe -Australia).
3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).
All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".
You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tactics. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1650335]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:
1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).
2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).
3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).
All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".
You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.[/QUOTE]I am always amazed at guys who think these young Thai girls are in love with them and have been waiting for their old ass all their lives.
If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1650335]Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:
1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).
2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).
3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).
All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".
You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.[/QUOTE]Well I will be there in high season (end of December) so I will have a chance to test your proposition out.
Yes he guys at Insomnia are mostly douches and I try to stay as clear of them as I can. I am not much into clubs for that and other reasons. When I do go I go in there in hunt mode. I I'd a girl. Approach. Buy a drink or two and warm her up and then have her out of there and back to my pad ASAP.
I am under no illusions that I am some kind of Brad Pitt look alike an that the ladies are in love with me. The only thing I have in common with Mr Pitt is that I am closer in age to him than to the guys you describe. But I do try and take care of myself: appearance, hygiene, the way I dress so that I am attractive to the girls also. I also have an outgoing and friendly personality and try to enjoy my time with them beyond just sex: laughing joking and just plain having fun.
I know this is not why they are going with me. But I think it does lead to better service if they are not revolted by the guy that is on top of them humping away. LOL.
No money no honey is the iron law and it applies to most girls everywhere, not only Pattaya. I know that the girl who did not ask money was expecting some, and that if I did not give it to her she would either be pissed or assume that I was in for a longtime relationship and she'd get a bigger payday later on down the road.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
And again, I don't understand people paying a Thai prostitute for LT. What the hell you want to do with a Thai working girl more than a couple of hours? Why should I let her sleep with me after an hour of sex? Probably I'm an old school dirty monger but I don't give them money for socialize but for them to leave afterwards. No conversation with them. Don't need to fuck the same girl 10 times in one day. They're so boring.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1650339]If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
[b]Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.[/b][/QUOTE]A couple of months ago I reported on a chick who rents apartments and when I met her she said she wasn't like all the other girls and that she doesn't go with men for money. Well one morning I was leaving her house and she held her hand out and asked for money for shopping. I told her no. Haven't heard from her since.
On the other hand there are chicks who I have known for years who have still not asked me for 1 baht. I don't get too attached to anybody. I know women come and go and sometimes they even come back. (Just recently started back talking to a girlfriend from 30 years ago in 8th grade.)
If you are about money let me know up front. But don't portray yourself as one thing and turn out to be another.
I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.
I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.
Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1650385]I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.
I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.
Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back![/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time Java Man. And thanks for pointing out Telephone Bar. BJ bars aren't really my thing but it may be worth checking out.
I only really had one great nigh tat Crystals back in May. During my 2 visit in August it was super tame. Even when I hung out with the same girl that had been raunchy with me before. Maybe I was just lucky the first visit. Or maybe the policy has change there. Who knows?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1650242]Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?
Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?
Just joking fellas!
Enjoy![/QUOTE]Good idea! That inspired a joke in me.
Q: How many Indians does it take to screw a Thai working girl?
A: Seven. One for each ear, One for each nostril, one for the butt, and one in the puss. That makes six, the seventh one is the one waiting for his turn in the corner of the room of course.(Usually the cook brought along from the homeland, for Indian food).
P.S.: I'm Indian.
P.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1650355]Well I will be there in high season (end of December) so I will have a chance to test your proposition out...[/QUOTE]I find the Hi- bar (I guess this is the correct name), entering on the left, much better than the disco upstairs. Better for 2 reason, first you can start hunting earlier, around 10.00 / 11.00 pm, no need to be up until 4 , 5 am. Second, you can see and chat with the girls in a better way. Upstairs is a mess. Too noisy, too crazy and too dark. Or maybe I'm just too old for that.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]I am a slightly above average American punter in looks and spending capacity with a fair amount of experience who walks into popular Walking Street go go clubs with a good attitude and a sharp eye. I know the price structure before I walk through the door.[/QUOTE]I think many of the guys complaining about their go go club experiences should re-read this sentence a few times. To use a currently-fashionable cliche, when it comes to the go go club business model: "It is what it is." While there is much variation in location, decor, music and ambiance, all go go clubs are the same when it comes to pricing. They are at the upper end of the price range. If you know that going in and make your peace with it you'll be off to a good start like Mr. Bumpo. If you sit down already spun up over how much everything costs the girls will spot your sourpuss a mile away and you'll be at a disadvantage from the start. It's a variation on the Robber Baron line about how if you have to ask how much something costs you can't afford it. You're on holiday, for crying out loud. Pry your wallet open with a crow bar. If the price is really truly a deal breaker, look for your sweeties elsewhere.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]If punters spent a little time with a girl getting to know her, having some fun, and trying to create a little chemistry the percentage of quality bar fines will dramatically increase and certain bad signs or tells would emerge that will warn a discerning punter off the girl if he is paying any attention. [/QUOTE]More good advice. Note the part about "having some fun." Visiting a go go club is usually a special treat. You've saved up for your holiday, planned it months in advance and kept up with the latest developments here. Once you finally sit down and let the Swedish House Mafia wash over you it's not going to kill you to let your hair down and have a good time. To use two more cliches, get out of your head and live in the moment. Ruminating over whatever emotional baggage keeps you awake back in Farang Land is only going to harsh your mellow. Be happy like Mr. Bumpo and the girls will respond in kind. As the Thais remind us, sanuk is good.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo]I find that all a couple shots do is loosen things up and creates a warm party vibe between me and the girls very conducive for having great sex later. If a couple of shots of Tequila has a negative effect on you then by all means cut that step out. You should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.[/QUOTE]To quotes the ads for spirits: "Enjoy responsibly." For most people having a few drinks acts as a social lubricant and increases the sanuk factor. It also adds a few baht to the bottom line for your prospective bar fine, the server, the mamasan and the club. And again, it marks you as a guy who is out to have a good time. You don't have to get sloppy drunk. You don't have to get hustled into spending big baht on silliness like ping pong balls or "ringing the bell." But you should let your hair down. If your head's in a bad place you'll come off as uptight at best and self-loathing at worst. No girl relishes the prospect of alone time with a dude who looks like he's about to get a root canal.
If you follow Mr. Bumpo's sage advice you'll enjoy your time in go go clubs regardless of whether you decide to leave with a girl. If you do find somebody who strikes you fancy, adhering to The Bumpo Method means you'll leave with a spring in your step and a hottie on your arm who is anxious to make you happy. Which, my friends, is why we patronize go go clubs.
Bunky
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1650385]I arrived early Thursday morning, and promptly collapse on the hotel bed after a 30 HR journey. This is my first time in Thailand. Thursday night I wandered around WS, and went into Angelwitch. It was not crowded. I liked the choreographed erotic dance shows. Was approached by 2 dancers, unfortunately not to my liking. I only found one dancer I liked. I wasn't in a buying mood due to a headache. I did strike up a conversation with one of the bar maids and she kept me company. After the show ended, the place emptied out, (It was getting close to 1a.) I wandered WS some more and eventually made it to Beach Rd. Saw a few attractive SW's. First impressions: a lot of these gals are SERIOUSLY inked up.
I was feeling a little more charged up Friday. Made it to LK Metro, I wanted to checkout Crystals and Destiny Agogo due to previous positive reports. Only saw one Crystals gal I found attractive. There was none of the raunchiness Uncle V had previously reported. None of the dancers approached me. Had one beer and went into Destiny. It was deader than Crystals at 9p. Again no dancers approached me. One beer and out the door I went.
Action Oriented had mentioned the Telephone Bar as being raunch central, (I like Raunch, :D ) it's a BJ Bar. It's no where near WS, located in an out of the way place. About 3 Km from LK Metro. I had to call the place to give the moto taxi directions. Going in, I knew what to expect, as I had seen their Facebook page. I wasn't looking for looks, but talent. It has an Old red Brit telephone booth as it's entrance. You get buzzed in. It's smaller than I imagined. 7 ladies present of various ages, 3 were occupied. Slightly older gal sat me on the bar. Bought her a LD, and as a reward she lowered her tube top. I grabbed her ass, and it was nice that she was panty-less. Like AO mentioned, the festivities commence at the bar, in front of everyone. We eventually moved into the back room, where she proceeded to show me her skills. Total cost 1350 baht, drinks included. LD's are 300, BJ is 500, FS is 700. Here's the bad thing of going there late, no moto taxi will come to it. My gal drove me to a spot nearby where there were moto taxis. Telephone is open 1p to 1a according to my gal. However, their flyer states it opens at 9a. Two shifts cover the hours. There were 3 younger gals working while I was there. I'll go back and check them and the day shift out. They have a VIP card that gives you first free drink and 5% off. Prepay it, 10K or 20k baht, gives you 20% off, (crazy!) I'll BE Back![/QUOTE]You can also try La Carre Blanc or Club4 just off 3rd Road not as far as the Telephone! Pretty much the same thing and price?
It was one of those crappy mildly frustrating Saturday nights in Pattaya last night. I parked my bike near Soi 5 in Jomtien and took a fully packed baht bus (all the baht buses now are packed to the gun whales) from there to Soi Diana on 2nd Rd in Pattaya; then walked east to Soi Buakhao and further east to a restaurant on Soi Len Kee I like for dinner. Afterward I walked over to Soi LK Metro and visited The Office a-go-go where there were only 1 or 2 cuties out of about 30 girls, most of whom are old and chunky. As usual I was approached by one of these and waved her off. That's what to expect during the early evenings in that area.
After 1 beer I walked back to 2nd Rd and through Mike's department store to Beach Road intending to catch a baht bus from there to Walking Street. As luck would have it though, the entire length of Beach Road had been closed off for the whole weekend to all traffic and turned into Disney World with stalls from end to end selling street food, trinkets and other crap to families of tourists there for a fireworks festival or something. There was no room anywhere for hookers and I didn't see a single one on my long walk to the entrance of WS. Guess they all had to take the weekend off.
Anyone who had taken a baht bus north bound to a destination on 2nd Rd last night would have had to walk a long way if they wanted to go back south to WS as there was no transportation on Beach Road and all the side Soi's from WS to as far north as the Dolphin Circle were closed. It was a nightmare. It's happening in Pattaya now with ever greater frequency. The zombie tourist families are taking over.
It was hot last night and by the time I got to WS and Happy a-go-go after dodging the huge crowds of tourists I was sweating like a pig. As I sat cooling off with a drink while watching the nice line up of girls, suddenly at least 50 or more Chinese tourists started stampeding two and three abreast through the front door like a giant herd of wildebeests. There were whole families of them; all ages; mom's, pop's, white haired grandpa's and grandma's, cousins, uncles and aunts. It took a seeming eternity for the whole group of them just to enter the bar.
When finally seated all together of course, every last one of them ordered a draft beer; and 15 minutes later the entire migrating herd left the bar en mass for greener pastures the same way they entered each leaving their nearly full glass of beer behind. It was like a bad dream – a Beijing family reunion go-go bar crawl. Now the tourist families are taking over the bars. Soon there will be no room for punters, the girls will wear full body leotards, and the shows will be rated PG. All the raunch will be gone and families will rule.
Now I can't wait for low season.
I believe Pattaya is one of the worst place for mongering during high season. December-Jenuary-February are a total disaster. Avoid walking street.
Hello gentlemen,
can anyone confirm if Devil's Den is still open and operational?
I tried to make a booking through their website, but every time I get an error page, and I tried e-mailing them to the address I have from 3 years ago, but didn't get an answer.
Thank you,
Ryo.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;1650784]Hello gentlemen,
can anyone confirm if Devil's Den is still open and operational?
[/QUOTE]Thanks to a kind brother who answered privately, I've been able to solve the problem.
While the old website is still mostly functioning, DD has a new one (to me at least): [URL]http://devilsdenthailand.com/[/URL]
A few girls have changed, some new talent available.
Ryo.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1650678]It was one of those crappy mildly frustrating Saturday nights in Pattaya last night. I parked my bike near Soi 5 in Jomtien and took a fully packed baht bus (all the baht buses now are packed to the gun whales) from there to Soi Diana on 2nd Rd in Pattaya; then walked east to Soi Buakhao and further east to a restaurant on Soi Len Kee I like for dinner. Afterward I walked over to Soi LK Metro and visited The Office a-go-go where there were only 1 or 2 cuties out of about 30 girls, most of whom are old and chunky. As usual I was approached by one of these and waved her off. That's what to expect during the early evenings in that area.
After 1 beer I walked back to 2nd Rd and through Mike's department store to Beach Road intending to catch a baht bus from there to Walking Street. As luck would have it though, the entire length of Beach Road had been closed off for the whole weekend to all traffic and turned into Disney World with stalls from end to end selling street food, trinkets and other crap to families of tourists there for a fireworks festival or something. There was no room anywhere for hookers and I didn't see a single one on my long walk to the entrance of WS. Guess they all had to take the weekend off...[/QUOTE]It seems completely over-run with tour groups. I can only imagine how many home movies and youtube clips we will be able to spot ourselves on. At least Beach Road is up and running again.
On a side note, what restaurant are you visiting on Soi Len Kee? I am right up the street and would love to give it a try. In my experience, Pattaya does not have the tastiest food.
Take care.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1650678]It was one of those crappy mildly frustrating Saturday nights in Pattaya last night. As luck would have it though, the entire length of Beach Road had been closed off for the whole weekend to all traffic and turned into Disney World with stalls from end to end selling street food, trinkets and other crap to families of tourists there for a fireworks festival or something. There was no room anywhere for hookers and I didn't see a single one on my long walk to the entrance of WS. Guess they all had to take the weekend off. It was hot last night and by the time I got to WS and Happy a-go-go after dodging the huge crowds of tourists. Now I can't wait for low season.[/QUOTE]Yes, Beach street was a ZOO. At times walking was impossible. There was some good food stalls though. And the fireworks show was entertaining.
Unlike Daddy07, I didn't hit WS. Went into the Tahitian Queen on Beach Rd, near Soi 13. It's the oldest running bar in Pattaya, supposedly. It's also a GoGo. Walking in I wasn't impressed initially with the lineup. But after settling in noticed there were a few that were doable, 7-8 range, and important to me, with BUNDA! Singha beer was 130 baht, LD is 135 baht, Backroom action for an hour, (I think,) is 2500 baht. BF after midnight was 1000 baht. Had a decent time playing grab ass with 4 dancers, even flirted with the mama-san. I'll be back to this one.
[URL]http://www.tahitianqueen.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1650644]You can also try La Carre Blanc or Club4 just off 3rd Road not as far as the Telephone! Pretty much the same thing and price?[/QUOTE]Great minds think alike. Hit LE Carre Blanc last night. Going to it, had a little misadventure with a lady moto taxi driver. She spoke no english and was unfamiliar with the area. Saw some Pattaya neighborhoods away from the lime light. She eventually dropped me off near the area.
Rang the bell and got let in. A snaggly tooth wench opened the door, entering saw 4 gals, only 2 decent. Got a 50 coke. Snaggle tooth sat next to me and immediately started to fondle me. Gazing into her mouth, I was afraid of getting a BJ from her. No way junior was going in there. :eek:
A younger better looking gal was on a couch occupied by her smartphone. The other decent gal in the room was occupied at the bar with a slightly drunk older gent. Another older gent was buzzed in and Ms smartphone let him in and stuck to him. She soon was on her knees giving the old guy a BJ. I was nursing my coke, thinking of how to get to Club 4. Luckily, the slightly drunk guy left, making the cutie available.
Her name was Pot, purchase of a 130 LD also removed her panty. :) Pot had what I like, nice round ass. Things were looking UP. Pretty soon we were fondling each other. That ass felt great in my hand. :D
I was informed a 30 min BJ is 700 baht, performed in the open bar area, or behind closed curtains for the shy. One HR FS is 1300 baht in an upstairs room. Up we went.
Showered, cleaned up together. She got a perfectly round butt, slim waist, just like I LIKE. Pot proceeded to give an outstanding BJ almost to completion. I had to stop her, as I wanted more. She said she did do A level, but didn't enjoy it and frowned. Not wanting to spoil the moment, I didn't force the issue. She said she prefers BJ, as it's easier. Later after the deed was done, she told me she was 33, I thought she was 10 yrs younger. I'll be back for Pot.
Carre Blanc is open 1p to 12a, 3rd Rd, Soi 33. It has no website nor telephone. Tuesdays and Fridays are 2 for 1 beer nights. Also after playing with Pot, I got a free Singha beer.
Next stop Club 4. Going to do some sightseeing first.
[QUOTE=Bungaro;1651158]It seems completely over-run with tour groups. I can only imagine how many home movies and youtube clips we will be able to spot ourselves on. At least Beach Road is up and running again.
On a side note, what restaurant are you visiting on Soi Len Kee? I am right up the street and would love to give it a try. In my experience, Pattaya does not have the tastiest food.
Take care.[/QUOTE]I thought the food at Jockey's was ok. It's on Soi Lengkee.
Corner of Soi Baukhao and Pattaya Klang turn left and start walking towards 2nd and Beach road just a few feet there is a place called.
Leng Kee.
I stayed three nights in Pattaya around Nov 15th. Arrived on Sunday evening and was shocked to find number of FLs on beach road down by almost half of what I had seen in Feb earlier this year. Most were hopeless quality. Found no more than 4/5 do-ables but none 7/10. First catch of the day was a young girl fon. She was not over the top enthusiastic but not too bad overall. Asked for just 500 baht.
Second to be snagged was a girl named pui. Very sweet Thai lady around 29 years old with decent body and amazing service. She sucked like crazy and did not say no to anything I asked of her. Just mind blowing sex for 500 bahts. Tipped her generously.
Checked out some massage parlours on second day. Quality was hopeless. Saw one very hot girl in Soi 6 but did not approach her. Soi6 had at least 5/6 okaish girls around 6 pm. Picked up a slightly heavy built FL from beach road for 600 bahts, said she worked full time in a flower shop during the day and was amateur. She was in a bit of hurry but otherwise had the best tits I have seen on a Thai lady. Full 34 C. Natural and firm. Amazing juicy nips. Enjoyed her and picked up another one around 11 PM. This lady had her own moto bike so she offered me a ride for 500 bahts plus 50 bahts for moto ride. It was experience of a lifetime riding behind her on beach road and 2nd road to hotel, before undertaking the ride to outer space. LOL. She was a trooper in bed.
Third day arranged a melange a trois but one of the lady jumped for condom in 2 minutes which killed my libido. Decided to cut her loose after 30 minutes.
I have noticed a deterioration in quantity and quality on beach road. WS had far fewer tourists as well. Russians and Indians were down quite a bit. Hardly any FLs on WS. Most FLs seemed to have moved to bars. Beach road was rather uninspiring on all three nights with no more than 4 or 5 girls that were at the most 5 out 10 in my eyes. Most girls asked for 500-700 bahts. It rained a bit on Sunday night. Overall seemed like low tourist season. Many girls were seen waiting for as many as 4 hours without clients. Some told me that some losers are offering 200-300 bahts for a quick shag.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1651339]I thought the food at Jockey's was ok. It's on Soi Lengkee.[/QUOTE]Quite a few good eating options all around Pattaya, Jockey's is good as well. In the same area there is Oz Burger and Robin's Nest which I like. There are a couple of other eating joints inside LK Metro (name I forget) which are equally good. I actually find the breakfast options (which are usually available all day) in Pattaya to be good change from the same old.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1651402]Corner of Soi Baukhao and Pattaya Klang turn left and start walking towards 2nd and Beach road just a few feet there is a place called.
Leng Kee.[/QUOTE]Like that place also.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1651437]Quite a few good eating options all around Pattaya, Jockey's is good as well. In the same area there is Oz Burger and Robin's Nest which I like. There are a couple of other eating joints inside LK Metro (name I forget) which are equally good. I actually find the breakfast options (which are usually available all day) in Pattaya to be good change from the same old.[/QUOTE]Golf Club Soi LK Metro. If you don't mind spending a bit, go on Steak night and have the Ribeye or Pork Chops.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1651452]Golf Club Soi LK Metro. If you don't mind spending a bit, go on Steak night and have the Ribeye or Pork Chops.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion, actually I have been to Golf club accompanied by our man Pipe Layer but it wasn't on one of their steak nights (which is what we were hoping for). By the way, waffles are quite good here as well. Can't wait to go back and try the Ribeye.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1651437]Quite a few good eating options all around Pattaya, Jockey's is good as well. In the same area there is Oz Burger and Robin's Nest which I like. There are a couple of other eating joints inside LK Metro (name I forget) which are equally good. I actually find the breakfast options (which are usually available all day) in Pattaya to be good change from the same old.[/QUOTE]I think burgers are American? If not, Americans have a lock on them? I'm sure someone will come up with the stats and such but I've had some good burgers in my life time in the States. And when it comes to OZ Burger it was one of the worse although there were some reports that it was good? After reading about OZ, I decided two months ago hunger at L. K. To give them a try, Ordered the Bacom cheese and bottle water. They serve no drinks especially water told me to go inside the bar and get it but they only had beer? Although a booth I have never eaten at one that didn't have some type of drink. When the Burger came it look okay Until I got a closer look! The Bacon was the cheapest type you can buy didn't have any taste and if you know bacon? No taste! Whatever cheese they used was bland it look more like fat from the burger? Not sure where they get their beef but this surely was not Angus! Some consider size that makes the burger but it is quality for me. What also makes a Burger great is the fries and the shoestrings just do not make it for me.
One of he worse I've had in Pattaya and I've had some pretty bad one! I'm not for Big Mac or Burger King but rather have one of those than OZ. Although far out Just Burger in Jomtien Bacon Burger has real bacon! And when you order fries they come the old fashion way in a Basket!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1651512]I think burgers are American? If not, Americans have a lock on them? I'm sure someone will come up with the stats and such but I've had some good burgers in my life time in the States. And when it comes to OZ Burger it was one of the worse although there were some reports that it was good? After reading about OZ, I decided two months ago hunger at L. K. To give them a try, Ordered the Bacom cheese and bottle water. They serve no drinks especially water told me to go inside the bar and get it but they only had beer? Although a booth I have never eaten at one that didn't have some type of drink. When the Burger came it look okay Until I got a closer look! The Bacon was the cheapest type you can buy didn't have any taste and if you know bacon? No taste! Whatever cheese they used was bland it look more like fat from the burger? Not sure where they get their beef but this surely was not Angus! Some consider size that makes the burger but it is quality for me. What also makes a Burger great is the fries and the shoestrings just do not make it for me.
One of he worse I've had in Pattaya and I've had some pretty bad one! I'm not for Big Mac or Burger King but rather have one of those than OZ. Although far out Just Burger in Jomtien Bacon Burger has real bacon! And when you order fries they come the old fashion way in a Basket![/QUOTE]True the place won't win your heart by serving the best quality beef and bacon but it is clean and somewhat tasty quick bite on the road. At 110-150 baht, I think, it is a little unreasonable to expect Angus! That said, I cannot claim to be an expert on the quality of the beef they use in the patty, that is for each patrons experience to judge, I found it decent for the price. The taste wasn't too bad either.
They do not provide water or anything except sauces along with the burger. If you require a beer, one has to just hop onto the counter and get a cold one. I think for cheap burger eats, its still good for me. If I had to get good to decent beef (read expensive), I would go down to Beefeater or as suggested by TellAll, to golf club.
P.s. I agree, fries help with a burger and that's something they should make standard fare, but I guess for now one has to buy it separately.
Finally after so many opinions and feedback from other members I tried my luck last month with Pattaya, and guys one thing for sure, Indian visitors must stop the way they are behaving here and rebuild their reputation . Specially people visiting in groups. As I was single I had to spend more money on many places just because I am Indian. And the worst part is you can't get entry to good places. The reputation is destroyed that when I was gathering information from some forum members, they didn't replied after I stated from where I am coming. So from here onward decided not to visit Thailand, many say that Indians discriminated in Thailand but Indians themselves created this situation. Try to save your country reputation and don't do the same shameful thing in other countries.
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1650066]FYI. Just two weeks ago a buddy and I were sitting at one of the 10-12 bars that back up to the water, I think one of bars facing walking street says Frog something across from Sugar Babies, anyway we were enjoying our beers and having fun watching all the girls scream at that the guys walking in trying to get them to come to their bar. They held up signs like, "Free Blow Job", "Fuck me tonight pay me tomorrow", etc. As the guy or group of guys walked in these ladies would scream their lungs out to try to get the attentions of the new prospective customers walking in. Well, we watched this for well over an hour laughing with girls and watching the reaction of the prospective new customers. Then, a group of 5-6 Indians walked in and you could hear a pin drop, every girl in all the bars, I guess about 80-100 ladies, ignored the Indians like they were not even there. I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1651482]Thanks for the suggestion, actually I have been to Golf club accompanied by our man Pipe Layer but it wasn't on one of their steak nights (which is what we were hoping for). By the way, waffles are quite good here as well. Can't wait to go back and try the Ribeye.[/QUOTE]Be sure and try the salad with the boiled quail eggs. Almost worth the price by itself.
Hi there!
We are 2 couples + 1 more girl. (makes it 3 beautiful eastern-Europe girls together + 2 men) travelling to Thailand. Self drive trip in January. We prefer different sort of action!
Please advise best location for First time in Thailand. Mostly we would like to enjoy beach-front restaurants and some working girls at night too.
Any advice for clean accommodation at moderate budget would be highly appreciated too! This is meant to be beach-holiday. However we don't expect to travel to remote islands with no action at night.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1651512]... After reading about OZ, I decided two months ago hunger at L. K. To give them a try, Ordered the Bacom cheese and bottle water. They serve no drinks especially water told me to go inside the bar and get it but they only had beer? Although a booth I have never eaten at one that didn't have some type of drink. When the Burger came it look okay Until I got a closer look! The Bacon was the cheapest type you can buy didn't have any taste and if you know bacon? No taste! Whatever cheese they used was bland it look more like fat from the burger? Not sure where they get their beef but this surely was not Angus! Some consider size that makes the burger but it is quality for me. What also makes a Burger great is the fries and the shoestrings just do not make it for me.
One of he worse I've had in Pattaya and I've had some pretty bad one! I'm not for Big Mac or Burger King but rather have one of those than OZ. Although far out Just Burger in Jomtien Bacon Burger has real bacon! And when you order fries they come the old fashion way in a Basket![/QUOTE]At Oz they have 2 kinds of beef, Thai and Australian. Just in case, you have to be sure to ask for the Aussie beef patty. I had one at the original Oz place in Jomtien and I thought it was pretty good. Nothing near the quality of a good American burger, but for Thailand it was good.
If someone wants a very good burger here, I suggest going to Mulligan's Irish pub on beach road and soi 8. They have decent burgers and fries, but it costs about 300 baht. Another good place is Hard Rock Cafe. Again, good burger but its more expensive there.
Daddy07 snip ..... Anyone who had taken a baht bus north bound to a destination on 2nd Rd last night would have had to walk a long way if they wanted to go back south to WS as there was no transportation on Beach Road and all the side Soi's from WS to as far north as the Dolphin Circle were closed. It was a nightmare. It's happening in Pattaya now with ever greater frequency....
Now I can't wait for low season.
You can also take the baht bus on soi Buakhao to get back over near walking street. It will go to South pattaya and then turn to go to 2nd road. Can get off there and walk up a block. I prefer that route, especially when beach road is crowded or when they have something big going on.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1650114] Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.[/QUOTE]If you do make the trip in Jan, she may or may not even be here when you arrive. These girls always come and go at a moments notice (for many reasons).
Even if you do meet her for some fun, you are never stuck. Have some fun and see how you feel afterwards. If you want to get a new girl the next day, do it. Tell the girl you have something to do. It's your time and your money. You should never think you are stuck.
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1648394]...
But what she told me made sense. She said that I should not buy her drinks, but she prefers a tip. She needs money to pay for her room. She would give me a great service and do a great BJ. Since this sounded credible, I agreed. She also said that she would stay LT, which normally would be 4000. But she would do it for 3000 (which used to be the normal rate just a couple of months ago). ST would be 2500, by the way. Bar fine was 1000, which I reluctantly accepted.
However, when we left, she told me that she made a mistake. She had been in the bar for only a few days and had not been taken out since. Therefore, she did not know that the bar fine for ST is 1500. What the f! Such bar fine is definitely beyond my limit, and I told her no way.
Well, at my hotel, we really had a great time. She gave me a good BBBJ and I gave her a DATY until she almost came. Then we did the deed for quite a while, and she came at least once. Finally, I also shot my load. Then, however, she was nervous. She said that either she has to pay the 500 additional bar fine, or she has to go back to the bar. Since I had my relief already and since I was hungry, I told her to go back to Rhino. I accompanied her, and while she went back to the bar, I had a nice after-midnight dinner.
Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.
Wonderer.[/QUOTE]I think she played you. That extra barfine crap doesn't make sense. Think about it. You pay the barfine BEFORE leaving the place. If there was any question or problem about whether its 1000 or 1500 they would have definitely told you while you were there.
In fact, once you agree to pay a barfine, they add it to your tab automatically and then bring the bill directly to you. So this is a no-brainer.
And because you did leave with the girl, you can rest assured all was in order with the barfine. That means she just wanted to get an extra 500 baht from you (or that was her excuse to leave).
Another thing, since you already paid the barfine, the girl is free to stay with you (or go anywhere she wants) and she does NOT have to return to the bar. The only reason she wants to go back is to try to get another customer.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1651591]At Oz they have 2 kinds of beef, Thai and Australian. Just in case, you have to be sure to ask for the Aussie beef patty. I had one at the original Oz place in Jomtien and I thought it was pretty good. Nothing near the quality of a good American burger, but for Thailand it was good.
If someone wants a very good burger here, I suggest going to Mulligan's Irish pub on beach road and soi 8. They have decent burgers and fries, but it costs about 300 baht. Another good place is Hard Rock Cafe. Again, good burger but its more expensive there.[/QUOTE]I did ask for the Aussie Angus, still very bad, like I said also bacon must be Thai cheapest and no liquor drinks to waste it down!
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1651596]Daddy07 snip ..... Anyone who had taken a baht bus north bound to a destination on 2nd Rd last night would have had to walk a long way if they wanted to go back south to WS as there was no transportation on Beach Road and all the side Soi's from WS to as far north as the Dolphin Circle were closed. It was a nightmare. It's happening in Pattaya now with ever greater frequency....
Now I can't wait for low season.
You can also take the baht bus on soi Buakhao to get back over near walking street. It will go to South pattaya and then turn to go to 2nd road. Can get off there and walk up a block. I prefer that route, especially when beach road is crowded or when they have something big going on.[/QUOTE]On this night and weekend, the BIB who have no idea how to conduct traffic did this as usual during heavy traffic and events such as these. At Sukhumvit and Pattaya Klang they close off so you can't make a right turn down Pattaya Klang, traffic is diverted to Pattaya Tai and Sukhumvit, one you make that right it is stop and go all the way down to 2nd Road, The Soi Baukhao /2rd road had barriers so you could only make a left heading towards 3rd road.
Rain or shine regardless of what is going on. I ride my bike down the middle of the road slowly of course pass all the vehicles that are in a stand still, cut to the back of Tuk-com, and came out back of Marine. Never take the Songthaw on these events NEVER, motorbike taxi is the only way to go if you don't take your own bike!
[QUOTE=DrackMore;1651544]... Try to save your country reputation and don't do the same shameful thing in other countries.[/QUOTE]I understand why you would like to rant, but ranting in this forum and expecting fellow countrymen (who obviously do not know of ISG) to tow the line is foolhardy. If you ever visit Pattaya again, try educating the groups of Indian mongers / travellers on the streets (see how that goes). AFAIK, no one from ISG would do any such thing which is likely to hurt fellow mongers from the same country.
This Friday is the King's Birthday, there is a possibility all bars and clubs will be forced to close Thursday at 12a. Won't reopen til Friday 10p or midnight. Also no liquor sales during that period. I'll hope to find out more from a bar manager this evening.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652079]This Friday is the King's Birthday, there is a possibility all bars and clubs will be forced to close Thursday at 12a. Won't reopen til Friday 10p or midnight. Also no liquor sales during that period. I'll hope to find out more from a bar manager this evening.[/QUOTE]I'm not Bar Manager but you don't have to worry!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1652086]I'm not Bar Manager but you don't have to worry![/QUOTE]How about this - [URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/446965/drinking-ban-sought-for-new-year-songkran[/URL].
Met up with some like minded individuals from a local Pattaya forum Tuesday afternoon. Crawl started at 1:30p. First three clubs are located in the Pattaya Park Tower area. First stop was Kinnaree Place. Located south of WS. 80 baht moto taxi should get you there. Nice big comfortable club, with lots of ladies. 80 baht beers, 350 BF, 700 BJ, 1000 FS. Small selection of sandwiches for 249 baht. 130 LD, IIRC. Lots of doable ladies. Good club to relax and chill. I'll be back to this club. Kinnaree is open from 1p to 9p.
2. Heaven Gentleman's Club, out of the way place, not far from Kinnaree. Not many ladies present at 3pish. 350 BF, 1000 FS, club has a pool and on Fridays, the ladies are in bikini's. Day of our visit 200 baht added to bill to cover food buffet, removed if do not eat. Too far off the beaten path and not enough ladies. I will NOT be back.
3. Jade House, interesting setup, has indoor and outdoor areas. Lots of average ladies, but 2 very doable. Interestingly, many in the group partook. Very dark bar area. Very friendly ladies. 80 beers, 350 BF, 1000 FS. I may return to get better acquainted with two of the ladies. Open from 1p to 8p.
4. Carre Blanc. More ladies present since my initial visit. Some of the group also partook. Was two for one drink night. LD excluded. Open from 1p to 12a.
5. Club 4. Finally made it to this club. Like Telephone club, located in a quiet residential neighborhood. Got buzzed in, Club is narrow and long. Young ladies dressed in tied tops, very short skits, Come Fuk Me Pumps, and NO PANTIES!! :D 350 BF, 600 BJ, 1000 FS. FS done upstairs. BJ done in raise Japanese style bed, in a curtain enclosure. Group thought it had the best lineup of the clubs. For me, Kinnaree club had more variety. I'll BE back to this club. Closes at 12a
The group started to thin out towards the end of the crawl. The remaining members continued on to LK Metro and hit a few.
Agogos. Lady Love had a shower show. One of the shower show girls took a fancy to me. Next thing I know, I'm BF'ing her. Fun time back at the hotel. I finally went to sleep almost 6a. Long fun day.
Met up with some of the fellows from the Club crawl on Soi 6. Found someone to my liking at Red Point Bar. 90 baht Singha, 100 LD, 350 baht BF, 1000 FS. She sold me when she started talking dirty to me. :D We're going to do a mini Gentleman's club crawl tomorrow.
Was told by several WG's, all bars and clubs will be closed Friday :( for the King's Birthday. Time to make alternate plans.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652192]Met up with some like minded individuals from a local Pattaya forum Tuesday afternoon. Crawl started at 1:30p. First three clubs are located in the Pattaya Park Tower area. First stop was Kinnaree Place. Located south of WS. 80 baht moto taxi should get you there. Nice big comfortable club, with lots of ladies. 80 baht beers, 350 BF, 700 BJ, 1000 FS. Small selection of sandwiches for 249 baht. 130 LD, IIRC. Lots of doable ladies. Good club to relax and chill. I'll be back to this club. Kinnaree is open from 1p to 9p.
2. Heaven Gentleman's Club, out of the way place, not far from Kinnaree. Not many ladies present at 3pish. 350 BF, 1000 FS, club has a pool and on Fridays, the ladies are in bikini's. Day of our visit 200 baht added to bill to cover food buffet, removed if do not eat. Too far off the beaten path and not enough ladies. I will NOT be back.
3. Jade House, interesting setup, has indoor and outdoor areas. Lots of average ladies, but 2 very doable. Interestingly, many in the group partook. Very dark bar area. Very friendly ladies. 80 beers, 350 BF, 1000 FS. I may return to get better acquainted with two of the ladies. Open from 1p to 8p.
4. Carre Blanc. More ladies present since my initial visit. Some of the group also partook. Was two for one drink night. LD excluded. Open from 1p to 12a.
5. Club 4. Finally made it to this club. Like Telephone club, located in a quiet residential neighborhood. Got buzzed in, Club is narrow and long. Young ladies dressed in tied tops, very short skits, Come Fuk Me Pumps, and NO PANTIES!! :D 350 BF, 600 BJ, 1000 FS. FS done upstairs. BJ done in raise Japanese style bed, in a curtain enclosure. Group thought it had the best lineup of the clubs. For me, Kinnaree club had more variety. I'll BE back to this club. Closes at 12a
The group started to thin out towards the end of the crawl. The remaining members continued on to LK Metro and hit a few.
Agogos. Lady Love had a shower show. One of the shower show girls took a fancy to me. Next thing I know, I'm BF'ing her. Fun time back at the hotel. I finally went to sleep almost 6a. Long fun day.[/QUOTE]Don't know what day you went to Kinaree, but I went there on Saturdays. They have Bar be Que buffet for 350 bht. If spend 350 on drinks or women, the food is free. I thought it was pretty good.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1652095]How about this - [URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/446965/drinking-ban-sought-for-new-year-songkran[/URL].[/QUOTE]This article is not applicable to this Birthday, The two holidays or events have the worse record for Thailand, If you know or seen Songkran especially in Pattaya every law that exist regarding drinking and driving is broken. It is not much better during New Years except shorter!
I've been here for 9 of his Birthday and some are closed but majority are open. I will give you this due to the coup and new leader there is a question mark to this day since the guy is basically his puppet.
He himself has said on his day he wants people to be happy and have fun and when it comes to Thai you can't do that unless you drink? It is what they work and live for?
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652201]Met up with some of the fellows from the Club crawl on Soi 6. Found someone to my liking at Red Point Bar. 90 baht Singha, 100 LD, 350 baht BF, 1000 FS. She sold me when she started talking dirty to me. :D We're going to do a mini Gentleman's club crawl tomorrow.
Was told by several WG's, all bars and clubs will be closed Friday :( for the King's Birthday. Time to make alternate plans.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the interesting post Java man. Not much is posted about these clubs so this is some good info. I will try and find to check them out when I'll be in Patts at the end of the month. I am curious, how would girls at Kinaree compare (in terms of looks) to girls at the best Gogogs?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1652392]Thanks for the interesting post Java man. Not much is posted about these clubs so this is some good info. I will try and find to check them out when I'll be in Patts at the end of the month. I am curious, how would girls at Kinaree compare (in terms of looks) to girls at the best Gogogs?[/QUOTE]+1 Good job JavaMan. Nice to get in depth info about places off the beaten path.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1652392]Thanks for the interesting post Java man. Not much is posted about these clubs so this is some good info. I will try and find to check them out when I'll be in Patts at the end of the month. I am curious, how would girls at Kinaree compare (in terms of looks) to girls at the best Gogogs?[/QUOTE]Personally, it is no better than going into some Beer bar or down Soi 6, it is hit and miss more often miss. Heaven Gentlemen the only one I found to be doable was the Mamasan Risa.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1652392]Thanks for the interesting post Java man. Not much is posted about these clubs so this is some good info. I will try and find to check them out when I'll be in Patts at the end of the month. I am curious, how would girls at Kinaree compare (in terms of looks) to girls at the best Gogogs?[/QUOTE]In my opinion the girls at the Kinaree are older then most in Go Go's. Since I don't really care for them to young, It's good for me. Saw some attractive ladies in there that I would take. I would compare them to what you might find in a somewhat attractive FL.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1652456]Personally, it is no better than going into some Beer bar or down Soi 6, it is hit and miss more often miss. Heaven Gentlemen the only one I found to be doable was the Mamasan Risa.[/QUOTE]Mamasan I met was Maggie. Big friendly older girl with blond punk haircut. Not doable unless you into dat.
Gov-ment told establishments, UP TO YOU! So, some places will be closed, others open today.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1652206]Don't know what day you went to Kinaree, but I went there on Saturdays. They have Bar be Que buffet for 350 bht. If spend 350 on drinks or women, the food is free. I thought it was pretty good.[/QUOTE]Went on a Tuesday.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1652664]In my opinion the girls at the Kinaree are older then most in Go Go's. Saw some attractive ladies in there that I would take. I would compare them to what you might find in a somewhat attractive FL.[/QUOTE]Yes, I concurr.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1652392]I will try and find to check them out when I'll be in Patts at the end of the month. [/QUOTE]I'll still be here. :D
A few of my new found friends got together yesterday for a mini crawl. Started at 2p. First stop, the Montana Bar Gentleman's club, a newly opened bar. Located off 3rd road, on Soi 17, near Soi Bonkai. A little out of the way from WS. Open 2p-2a, beers 80-90 bahts, 130 baht LD, 300 & 400 baht, (bigger room) BF, 500 baht BJ, 1000 baht FS. Younger ladies, dressed in very sexy school girl outfits. Mamasan very friendly and accommodating. Curtain off areas in main Bar area, with leather looking couches. Two adjoining rooms next to main bar area. One member of the group partook. I may return.
Second stop: M Club, 3rd Road on Alley 14, next door to Maxx Central Condotel. Opens 2p to 12a, (maybe.) Soda 50 baht, beer 69 baht, mix drink 110 baht, 250 baht ST BF, 500 LT BF. Great looking club, has a swimming pool out back, (bring your swim trunks.) Saturday, the ladies are in bikini's. Perhaps it was the time, but only 6 ladies present at 3pish, they were dressed to in kill form fitting dresses. 4 out of the 6 were doable to me, mid twenties I'm guessing. However, I wasn't feeling the love from the one next to me. Felt she liked the youngest dude in our group. I may return on a Saturday just to see how it is.
[URL]www.mclubpattaya.com[/URL] They're also on Facebook. No phone, they prefer to be contacted by Facebook.
Last stop was LE Telephone Bar, more ladies present from my first trip. Everyone in the group partook. One shameless member even got a BBBJCIM right in the bar area. :D She even swallowed, (my the Gran Buddha bless her.) Free first drink, (it was a mixed drink) and 10% off bar bill with VIP card. I WILL BE BACK.
Tour leader had told us about the Buffalo bar, on 3rd Road near Cherry's Restaurant (Google the restaurant for location) and next to the Castle, (more on this in a bit.) Buffalo Bar is a beer garden. Older ladies present, who according to our tour guide cater to over 40 gents. Supposedly young guys don't get no action. Yes, they are older, Late twenties, early thirties and up. My friend called it the second time around bar. I didn't see anyone to my liking. 2 pool tables in the back. My friend BF a younger gal. I left to meet up with another friend and hit some Gogos on Soi 7 and 8. I may return to Buffalo bar on a weekend to see if it improves. Hit the sack at 2a. Another long day.
Ok, the Castle, it's a fetish SM / BD club, for all you freaks out there. You can give or receive, UP TO YOU! :) According to the tour guide, FS available. They have a website, with dated gallery of the Mistress and slaves. Per website, 900 baht cover with free drink, 300 drinks for non members. 250 baht LD. Members get 50% off cover and their drinks. 3 month membership is 8000 baht. If I go it will for reporting purposes for you sick fuks out there. :D
There is another BJ bar in this 3rd Road area, the Bliss Lounge, our tour guide did not recommend. But local Pattaya forum gives it a thumbs up. I'll check it out later.
Ok, off to do some tourist stuff.
[URL]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652748]Mamasan I met was Maggie. Big friendly older girl with blond punk haircut. Not doable unless you into dat.[/QUOTE]Yes, not doable as you say Big friendly older!
Devil's Den is still in operation. I been there on 23 Nov 2014.
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;1650784]Hello gentlemen,
can anyone confirm if Devil's Den is still open and operational?
I tried to make a booking through their website, but every time I get an error page, and I tried e-mailing them to the address I have from 3 years ago, but didn't get an answer.
Thank you,
Ryo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652766]Ok, off to do some tourist stuff.
[URL]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Java Man, just to let you know, you are doing a great job with the reports, have finally managed to read them all, thanks. I know the pub / bar crawls organized by the other forum are quite a lot of fun (is your handle the same there as well?, mine is), get to meet several interesting people and of course, the girls. I will put Kinaree / Club 4 on my to-do list. Waiting for more such discoveries to be reported.
By the way, did you pick up this souvenir for yourself?
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652766]A few of my new found friends got together yesterday for a mini crawl.... [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652192]Met up with some like minded individuals from a local Pattaya forum Tuesday afternoon....[/QUOTE]Some great info, thanks. I found out about some of these bars and visited them about 8 months ago from reading PAs. The same old scene of doing beautiful young girls was getting a bit boring so I was looking for something new and exciting. I did Carre Blanc, Club 4 and Le Telephone Bar, all with sort of the same deal with (somewhat) public sex. All 3 can be a pain in the ass to find, and to get to, especially Club 4 and Le Telephone.
I wandered around for awhile during the day before I found Le Telephone, even with the telephone booth out front, but finally found out. It was just me and 2 other guys at the bar, so I sat on the couch near the door and got a BBBJ from an older, unattractive girl. I didn't even finish, just did it for the hell of it. It's hard to judge a bar from an afternoon visit, but the quality of the girls, the long distance to get there, and the difficulty finding it will keep me from returning during the day, but I'd like to try it at night.
Went to Club 4 in early evening about 7 PM, I recall it was hard to find too, I had to direct my motorcycle taxi guy around a bit before we found it with my printed map. It was slow, but I got a relatively hot girl at the bar in the back and we retired to one of the beds with the curtains. She pulled them shut, and it was standard FS finish. But it wasn't that exciting really with the curtains closed, as it was pretty private. Maybe if the place was packed it would be more fun. I read that there is some open playing around at the bar sometimes, but nobody was there the night I was there. Maybe that's why we could do FS on the couch.
Carre Blanc was my favorite, and I ended up going back 3 or 4 times. It's alot easier to get to / closer to Beach Rd, being on the south side of the Soi Bukeow area. In fact, it's walkable from there but it's better to grab a motorbike taxi. I was there in the afternoon and night, and I liked the sleazy vibe at night, it's just different (in a good way). A few of the girls were pretty hot, though not go-go quality. It's just one sort of small room with the bar to the right as you walk in, and you can take the girls in a curtained off area to the left. I've read that sometimes there's multiple customers in there at once, but every time I was in there it was just me with my girl (s). I did a double one time. You can hear everyone thru the curtain while you're doing it, and there's the possibility someone could walk in I suppose, so it makes it a bit more interesting. Everything goes in there too. Some nights everyone's just hanging out, but a few times I saw a girl whip a guy's dick out at the bar and the customers can explore pretty freely when they buy the girls drinks. I'll probably go back there when I get back in a few weeks, if for no other reason than it's a change of pace.
If you have a car / motorbike or someone who knows their way around and can direct your driver, then I guess they all could be good. I'd like to go back in the evening to LE telephone and maybe even Club 4. Bt if you've never been to them and don't know your way around, they can be challenging to find even with a map especially if you've had a few.
Thanks again for the info. Some of those other bars sound interesting too. I'll be there in 2 weeks and of course, can't wait!
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1652927]I know the pub / bar crawls organized by the other forum are quite a lot of fun (is your handle the same there as well?, mine is), get to meet several interesting people and of course, the girls. By the way, did you pick up this souvenir for yourself?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the thumbs up. Same handle, but have not posted yet. (They got different forum rules over there.) Did not get THAT souvenir, got this one instead. BTW, you aware, Unable to PM you, option not available.
[QUOTE=Pablo;1653248]I'll be there in 2 weeks and of course, can't wait![/QUOTE]I'll still be here. :D Here's a Google map that shows the location of the BJ bars, except Montana.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zPplJyGPWpiM.kp9m7b9Plqqg[/URL]
For me Carre Blanc, M Club and Bliss Lounge are walking distance from LK Metro. During the crawl, the group walked from Carre Blanc to Club 4, as we couldn't find a baht bus on 2nd road. During the mini crawl, Baht bus to Montana Bar. Found a metered taxi to go to M club, for 100 Baht. We each got moto taxi's near M Club to go to Telephone Bar. Going to these places, you'll have to hoof it to find Moto taxis to get back to civilization, as was the case at Telephone bar.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1652766]
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Ok, the Castle, it's a fetish SM / BD club, for all you freaks out there. You can give or receive, UP TO YOU! :) According to the tour guide, FS available. They have a website, with dated gallery of the Mistress and slaves. Per website, 900 baht cover with free drink, 300 drinks for non members. 250 baht LD. Members get 50% off cover and their drinks. 3 month membership is 8000 baht. If I go it will for reporting purposes for you sick fuks out there. :D
There is another BJ bar in this 3rd Road area, the Bliss Lounge, our tour guide did not recommend. But local Pattaya forum gives it a thumbs up. I'll check it out later.
Ok, off to do some tourist stuff.
[URL]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Remember that if you go to castle, you need to wear a black shirt.
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1653385]Remember that if you go to castle, you need to wear a black shirt.[/QUOTE]No need to; like the other torture/pleasure chamber in Bangkok, they will loan you a black coat if you're not wearing black shirt.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1653343]I'll still be here. :D Here's a Google map that shows the location of the BJ bars, except Montana.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zPplJyGPWpiM.kp9m7b9Plqqg[/URL]
For me Carre Blanc, M Club and Bliss Lounge are walking distance from LK Metro. During the crawl, the group walked from Carre Blanc to Club 4, as we couldn't find a baht bus on 2nd road. During the mini crawl, Baht bus to Montana Bar. Found a metered taxi to go to M club, for 100 Baht. We each got moto taxi's near M Club to go to Telephone Bar. Going to these places, you'll have to hoof it to find Moto taxis to get back to civilization, as was the case at Telephone bar.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'll run into you then! I drove by Bliss but didn't try it last time. I'll put M Club on my list for this trip.
LE telephone is a short walk back to Pattaya Tai, and there was a motorbike taxi gang close by (but that was in the afternoon). I remember that after saving my shot at LE telephone I went straight back to Carre Blanc that day. There was a girl named Wi there who I liked but she since moved on to somewhere in Jomtien. Maybe I'll contact her when I get back. Sometimes when you reconnect with a girl they like that and it ends up being a good time.
AO, I'm unable to reply to your last PM.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1653515]AO, I'm unable to reply to your last PM.[/QUOTE]Re-activated PM to receive your reply. Cheers.
I went to Walking Street and warmed up by sitting inches from young bikini-clad beauties gyrating at a few different go-go bars like Happy and Peppermint for the price of a 69 Baht draft beer each time. That switched my libido on to full-auto mode. Normally I warm up with Rock 'and Roll at the Hot Tuna Bar because it puts me in party mood, but the aphrodisiac effect is lacking.
Then I went upstairs at Club Insomnia a little bit before midnight and, as soon as I stepped on the floor, some friendly chick in her early 20's pretty much threw herself at me. Buddha only knows what went through her brain: I'm double her age, and I was not the only punter there. Turns out her name was Min. Physically she was one point below go-go girl material, but she easily earned the point back by being really bubbly, horny, and seemingly into me. I like girls who have a normal job and only come to freelance the day they ovulate.
She danced for me, then with me. I got a San Miguel Light and asked what she wanted. She answered "same", which I thought was pretty civilized of her. Then my game-brain kicked in and I realized the need for rapid kino escalation. I found her positively responsive to kissing and fondling, albeit in a somewhat guarded way due to the fact that everybody else including her friends were watching. She did not want to behave like a complete sl*t in public, which I found endearing. So I asked myself how to delicately broach the subject of going out together to a short-time hotel and banging her brains out in exchange for a fee.
After some internal debate I resolved that the odds of her getting offended by my proposal were close to nil, and if she played offended I'd keep on asking all the other cute girls in the club until one said yes. There is an urban legend that if you go up and down a normal beach full of Western vacationers in the summer and ask every do-able girl suntanning alone if she'd like to go back to your hotel to fuck, just straight-up with zero game and zero warm-up conversation, 2% of them will still say yes. At Insomnia it is probably closer to 98%.
Anyway, she discussed my proposal with an older, fat woman who seemed the only one in the group with a clear head on her shoulders: a sort of unofficial mamasan for a small gaggle of freelancers. Fat woman looked me up and down and declared me solvent and unthreatening (which was true, except for my raging hard-on, but that was the one threat Min was perfectly equipped to deal with) and off we went. I offered 2000 Baht, which is probably way too much, but I think I got confused between go-go girl rates and freelancer rates. Oh well, at least I had a great time.
She made a point of going through the ground-floor area and showing off to all the managers how quick it was for her to pick up a guy wearing a Dolce & Gabbana top. Once outside she had no clue where to find a short-time hotel, but eventually after asking around she found a hotel in a side Soi of Walking Street. As we walked in, the receptionist explained to us that it was not that kind of hotel. But fortunately as we were walking back out we noticed the receptionist of another hotel across the Soi waving us in, so that's where we ended up.
I got another round of beers. She chose Chang, I chose Singha. For some reason she thought it was hilarious, as if I supported Arsenal and she supported Chelsea! But at least we did not get confused as to which one was whose once we were in the room.
Given there was no safe, I developed this technique of letting her shower first, then undressing in the shower. I left my pants with my wallet in them hanging from the edge of the shower door. After the deed was done, I used the same technique, so my wallet was always within eyesight, and I was sure the only thing she wanted from me was a good f*ck and the agreed-upon number of the pieces of paper that pass for money nowadays. I do not mind overpaying occasionally, but I do mind doing so unknowingly. In my experience, honest girls do not object if you take precautions, to the contrary they make a point of not caring in order to broadcast how honest they are, because it is important to their self-esteem. It is only the shysters who object and try to make you feel bad.
Anyway, it was the best sex I ever had. At least for a few hours while I was still in the afterglow. I know why people differentiate between "GFE" girlfriend experience and "PSE" pornstar experience. Because if you get both at the same time and from a young beauty, you fall in love. She was completely natural in the sack, I could tell she was giving me exactly the same treatment as a guy she would f*ck just for pleasure. And we went on and on. From my side, it was due to the alcohol in my blood that delays orgasm. From her side, she was just happy to keep on going. Sometimes in Pattaya I go for another session around 3 am because my libido is not fully satisfied with the first one, but this time I was on my knees. Just good enough to listen to Rock 'and Roll at the Hot Tuna Bar. Which I did.
She tried to angle to be more than a one-time short-time girl, but that's not really my agenda, so I just did not give her any openings. She should be happy with the money, she was well paid for her travails. And remember, she picked me out of all the other blokes walking around Insomnia, so clearly it must not have been overly burdensome for her.
Bottom line: Only in Pattaya do you walk out into any given night with a reasonable chance of falling (temporarily) in love.
[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1653578]I Bottom line: Only in Pattaya do you walk out into any given night with a reasonable chance of falling (temporarily) in love.[/QUOTE]Great story Eric. I loved your write up. It made me feel like I was there!
My last trip I had the same thing happen to me at I-Bar downstairs. The girl picked me up and was on me like white on rice. We were making out within minutes. A guy who was hitting on her friend thought we were long time BF and GF. Never even mentioned money and we went back home to bang maybe 30 minutes after meeting her. She ended up staying with me till 5 PM the next day.
Man I love Pattaya (and I-bar. Despite what the naysayers say). I'm so happy I will be back in a few weeks!
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.
Great read, I'm sold. Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area?
[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1653578]I went to Walking Street and warmed up by sitting inches from young bikini-clad beauties gyrating at a few different go-go bars like Happy and Peppermint for the price of a 69 Baht draft beer each time. That switched my libido on to full-auto mode. Normally I warm up with Rock 'and Roll at the Hot Tuna Bar because it puts me in party mood, but the aphrodisiac effect is lacking.
Then I went upstairs at Club Insomnia a little bit before midnight and, as soon as I stepped on the floor, some friendly chick in her early 20's pretty much threw herself at me. Buddha only knows what went through her brain: I'm double her age, and I was not the only punter there. Turns out her name was Min. Physically she was one point below go-go girl material, but she easily earned the point back by being really bubbly, horny, and seemingly into me. I like girls who have a normal job and only come to freelance the day they ovulate.
She danced for me, then with me. I got a San Miguel Light and asked what she wanted. She answered "same", which I thought was pretty civilized of her. Then my game-brain kicked in and I realized the need for rapid kino escalation. I found her positively responsive to kissing and fondling, albeit in a somewhat guarded way due to the fact that everybody else including her friends were watching. She did not want to behave like a complete sl*t in public, which I found endearing...[/QUOTE]
Hit this place on Soi 6 twice already: 90 baht San Miguel beer, 350 baht BF, 800 baht BJ, 1000 baht FS. Met Micky Mouse late last night, a little older, good dirty talker, sealed the deal when she mentioned her course was a par 3. Took it like a champ and gave a nice sloppy BJ and let me skull fuk her a bit. :D I need to get there earlier, got 2 I seen prior that I'd like to get to know better.
[QUOTE=JusRide;1653605]Great read, I'm sold. Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area?[/QUOTE]Jamine Hotel, Soi be. J. Near your desired location.
I have read in the forum that VIEW talay 6 is managed by honey coffee shop and dance watchers. I got booking done through Jarunee. Are the condos offered by honey, dancewatchets and Jarunee are same?
If they are not sand then ant reviews on condos offered by Jarunee. Secondly I rtff but didn't find whether they are girl friendly.
Can any one please revert.
I'm in Bangkok right now but heading to Pattaya in a few hours. Hoping to run into some of you long-timers who might know the area better than I do. Last time I was there was 2010. Look for an American guy wearing glasses. (Yeah, I'm the only one, right?
Bruce.
FYI -- the bar fine at the Happy group Go-Go's is now 800 baht.
[QUOTE=Prince0312;1653785]I have read in the forum that VIEW talay 6 is managed by honey coffee shop and dance watchers. I got booking done through Jarunee. Are the condos offered by honey, dancewatchets and Jarunee are same?
If they are not sand then ant reviews on condos offered by Jarunee. Secondly I rtff but didn't find whether they are girl friendly.
Can any one please revert.[/QUOTE]Those condos are all GF. There is only one security desk at the entrance and the guard couldn't care less.
Just want to say thanks to all the long time posters here providing valuable information for for my first trip to Pattaya. I was just in Philippines for 3 weeks and will arrive in Pattaya in January for about a month. Hope to meet some of you guys and go on some bar hops! Thanks for some of the leg work bros!
Vanwilder
[QUOTE=Prince0312;1653785]I have read in the forum that VIEW talay 6 is managed by honey coffee shop and dance watchers. I got booking done through Jarunee. Are the condos offered by honey, dancewatchets and Jarunee are same?
If they are not sand then ant reviews on condos offered by Jarunee. Secondly I rtff but didn't find whether they are girl friendly.
Can any one please revert.[/QUOTE]The various condo management companies, of which there are many, manage different units from each other. Dancewatchers is an American named Mike and his wife Tik.
It happened when I visited Pattaya early this year. I was roaming around the walking street sighting for some fun. Found this girl in the pic decently dressed in a casual Jeans and T Shirt with none of her assets exposed. However I had an instinct of approaching her and we fixed the deal. Here we March towards my hotel. Once we entered my room, straight off to deed. She wanted to take a shower. She undressed her quickly and went for a shower and came fresh like a new flower with the towel wrapped on, waiting for the opening ceremony of the day (probably). I love DFK and so we started with an extended DFK, which turned out to be one of my life time one. Awesome experience! Which doing DFK my hands scanned her body completely with the towels off. In the mean while she undressed my as well. After a thoroughly enjoyable DFK (of course for both) she was then sucking my nipples and slowly went down to my tool, which was already ready for the mission. I asked her to come on the top and she was enjoying this position with heavy morns, where I was playing happily with her big boobs and hard nipples. Then we changed the position to doggy and then I was on top where I loaded my cum with condom on.
Then we chatted a lot and started round two and three before I went for sleep. In the early morning around 4:30 AM she wanted to leave, however I wanted to enjoy her again and we started another session with some exotic positions. Then I gave her 1000 bhatt and she happily accepted it. It was one of the best GFE experience I had and I would try her again in my next visit to Pattaya.
Haven't been to Pattaya for a couple of years now, so anyone have any recommendations for what I'm looking for, would be much appreciated. As per title, am looking for massage parlors in Pattaya which offer oily massages with full service at the end, the same sort of service that Mango and Tulip provide in BKK. Eg. You can just walk into the massage parlor, choose a girl, pay around 2000 baht for an oily massage that includes all the trimmings, no need to negotiate, she brings you to a private room with connected shower, you get cleaned up, massaged, and then end with full service. Is there anything like this in Pattaya? I know of the various soapies with the fishbowls and stuff but looking more for the Mango / Tulip style experience. I know there are various massage shops where you can negotiate happy ending after a massage but trying to skip all that stuff and just want a known upfront service.
Any recommendations would be great if you know of any.
Are there any bars / pubs that will show the US college bowls games this December?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1654802]Are there any bars / pubs that will show the US college bowls games this December?[/QUOTE]If you are in the LK Metro area AKA. Soi Buakhao, Iris Rover. If you are in Jomtien area Rich man Poor Man restaurant on Soi 9 just off the beach?
During the past few years a tsunami of Russians has certainly hit Pattaya. Has the ruble devaluation had an effect on the tourist or real estate market?
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1654824]During the past few years a tsunami of Russians has certainly hit Pattaya. Has the ruble devaluation had an effect on the tourist or real estate market?
SL.[/QUOTE]Can't say if its correct for right now, but in August and October there were quite a few. It appeared that every third tourist was from Russia (and esp those with families). Also, most places in Pats have their shop names written in Russian (pharmacy, hotels etc), so they are clearly geared towards Russian tourists.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1654824]During the past few years a tsunami of Russians has certainly hit Pattaya. Has the ruble devaluation had an effect on the tourist or real estate market?
SL.[/QUOTE]Their numbers dropped big time in Nov. Quite a significant reduction but still there are plenty around.
Back in Pattaya after almost 4 weeks Vietnam. And in one day I have already seen something like 50+ ladies that I want to fuck. Let me see, how can I organize that? Hmm, I cannot. Might as well go back home then. No wait! LOL!
Went to Bliss Lounge at Third Road yesterday afternoon because I was very horny and wanted a quick relief. But I don't think I will go there again. Have been there four or five times now and most of the ladies are nice and sweet but their blow jobs are all more or less the same. They go up and down without a lot of variation or subtlety and they can do that for 10,15, 20 minutes or what ever it takes you to finish. It's too mechanical.
However I might go back for the girl that blew me yesterday. Slightly overweighted but she had such a cute face and she was so damn sweet.
Went to Walking Street in the evening for a beer and eye candy. Was in Sensations for about one hour. All I saw was coyotes, not even a single 'normal' dancer. Quite a few lookers though. Had a girl sitting with me for a couple of drinks. She was cute but nothing special and I made clear to her that I already had a girl that afternoon and would not barfine her.
Went to Happy Agogo after that and was surprised by the line up: tons of coyotes! When I was here 5 weeks ago there were none! They might as well change their name to Unhappy because that's what it makes us punters.
Nevertheless one girl did make me happy because she showed her interest in me. Most of the time 99,5% of the Happy girls don't show any interest in me (apparently you have to pick them) which is one of the reasons I like to go there because I can enjoy watching them without being 'harassed' all the time.
This girl however wanted to sit with me and since she was young (21), cute as a button and 100% my type who am I to object, LOL? I promised to barfine her some time this week. Hmm, promises. How about the other 49 I want to fuck. Sigh.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1655163]Hmm, promises. How about the other 49 I want to fuck. Sigh.[/QUOTE]With enough time on your hands, and keeping a mileage of 3 girls a day, you could manage this feat in 16 days only. Unfortunately, in the meantime, you would have come across a 100 hundred other cuties to add to your list!
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1655163]Went to Bliss Lounge at Third Road yesterday afternoon. But I don't think I will go there again. Have been there four or five times now and most of the ladies are nice and sweet but their blow jobs are all more or less the same. They go up and down without a lot of variation or subtlety and they can do that for 10,15, 20 minutes or what ever it takes you to finish. It's too mechanical.
However I might go back for the girl that blew me yesterday. Slightly overweighted but she had such a cute face and she was so damn sweet.[/QUOTE]I was thinking of going there as well, passed by one day and maybe only one was doable to me. Perhaps a moot point, but what where the rates?
Went out Monday night with one of the guys I met, it was his last night in Pattaya. Met up at a Soi 7 Beer bar. While there some young Thai dude approached offering Kamagra gel. He wanted 1500 baht for a box of 50. I've been interested in buy it, but hadn't gone out looking for it. I was a little leery of purchasing it on the street, but my new friend, who is familiar with it, thought it was legit. Dude lowered his price, but I was still not convinced. He sold me when he lowered the price to 1000 baht. :) I've yet to try it, but gave one to my friend later on. I'm waiting to hear from him to see how it worked.
We then hit a few GoGo's on WS: Angelwitch: No draft beer and nearly without customers at 12a again. Peppermint: good Hard Rock Heavy Metal music, girls average looking. Windmill: what a den of debauchery! However, the girls are nothing to write home about, I didn't see anyone to my liking. It was packed, very few seats available when we got there. Mandarin: 2 Ladies to my liking, one was quickly BF'ed.
Then headed to LK Metro to hit a couple of GoGo's there. Unfortunately, by the time we got there most were closed. Popped into Paradise: Lots of good looking friendly girls, second time I've visited and as before, it has a Party atmosphere. 130 baht LD, BF of 500 baht after 12a, IIRC. It's the most fun Pattaya AGoGo, IMHO.
I've been walking a lot. I had been looking for some walking sandals, but all they sell here are the opened toe variety. Found a pair of Croc looking sandals and walked a good distance in them, only to have sore feet and calfs. Decided to visit what I thought was a legit massage near my Hotel. Got the 200 baht foot massage. Luck of the draw was a petite older masseuse. She was cute and flirty. She suggested the 300 baht body massage. But I initially declined. During the foot massage, she gave junior a couple of tugs. (Hmm) Now I've been fukin quite a bit since I got here, and junior was feeling a little sore, so I had no interest in anything else.
When she started working on my shoulders, she changed my mind about the body massage. Got into the small enclosed room and she had me strip, went as far as pulling down my undies. She gave a good strong massage, and walked on my back. My second clue that extras were available occurred when she tickled the boys. Then she had me flip. My intention was still not do anything else. She continued with the massage and fond some sore spots I was unaware of. When she reached the pelvic area, it got juniors attention. Sore as he was, he still wanted some. Little traitor gave me up.
So what's this going to cost me? 500 baht HJ, (huh?) 1000 baht BBBJ, (what?) 2000 Baht FS, (get the fuk out of here.) :eek: Uh, I can get 700 baht BJ elsewhere, with younger girl. Ok, 700 baht. (Dumbass, shoulda low balled her.) :( Junior was a full mast, so, OK, let me see what you can do. (I was expecting her experience to show.) It wasn't as good as I had hoped. And in the end, the tank was empty, but my feet were feeling much better. In conclusion, all those legit looking MP, might not be totally legit. :D Oh, and every time I pass by her MP, she acting like a long lost GF. LOL. :cool:
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1655375]With enough time on your hands, and keeping a mileage of 3 girls a day, you could manage this feat in 16 days only. Unfortunately, in the meantime, you would have come across a 100 hundred other cuties to add to your list![/QUOTE]Indeed, it's a downward spiral so to speak! I can manage 2 or 3 pops a day at the most but I try to keep it to 1 girl a day for budget reasons.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1655451]I was thinking of going there as well, passed by one day and maybe only one was doable to me. Perhaps a moot point, but what where the rates?[/QUOTE]You pay 700 to the bar afterwards plus a tip for the girl. I usually tip 200. I tipped this girl 300 because I liked her so much.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1655479] In conclusion, all those legit looking MP, might not be totally legit.[/QUOTE]I've had the same experience about half a year ago. I went to a legit looking MP on South Pattaya Road because I wanted a 'real' massage without happy end. Got an elderly lady, early forties I think, who gave me a decent massage but 'after the turning point' (if you can say it like that) the teasing began. Sigh, well okay then! She also wanted 1000 for a BJ, with condom! I got her down to 800 for a bareback BJ and it wasn't anything special.
If you are looking for a Happyending, its there everywhere. As even a Legit MP, would offer all.
But there there some like Dream teen, which is really nice and standard as like Angel in BKK. [URL]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/[/URL].
May not be a complete PSE, but many girls there offer A+. Else you have Devils Den, but on higher side.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Lusty99;1654777]Haven't been to Pattaya for a couple of years now, so anyone have any recommendations for what I'm looking for, would be much appreciated. As per title, am looking for massage parlors in Pattaya which offer oily massages with full service at the end, the same sort of service that Mango and Tulip provide in BKK. Eg. You can just walk into the massage parlor, choose a girl, pay around 2000 baht for an oily massage that includes all the trimmings, no need to negotiate, she brings you to a private room with connected shower, you get cleaned up, massaged, and then end with full service. Is there anything like this in Pattaya? I know of the various soapies with the fishbowls and stuff but looking more for the Mango / Tulip style experience. I know there are various massage shops where you can negotiate happy ending after a massage but trying to skip all that stuff and just want a known upfront service.
Any recommendations would be great if you know of any.[/QUOTE]
What is the best go go that plays classic rock / heavy music?
I have heard Peppermint delivers some solid sounds?
I'm just so over the damn car alarm sounds that are in most of the joints.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;1655641]What is the best go go that plays classic rock / heavy music?
I have heard Peppermint delivers some solid sounds?
I'm just so over the damn car alarm sounds that are in most of the joints.[/QUOTE]I like Rolling Live 3 on Soi 8. They've got live music with really good cover bands playing rock and the guests may ask for songs to be played too. Relaxed place, I go there at least twice a week while in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;1655641]What is the best go go that plays classic rock / heavy music? I have heard Peppermint delivers some solid sounds?[/QUOTE]Tahitian Queen on Beach Rd, near Soi 13, also plays classic rock, Heavy metal as well as songs from the 50's 60's and 70's.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1655793]Tahitian Queen on Beach Rd, near Soi 13, also plays classic rock, Heavy metal as well as songs from the 50's 60's and 70's.[/QUOTE]Agree. I forgot TQ, I like that place too. Maybee too loud sometimes, it's hard to speak to the ladies. But a lot of fun to be had there, and they're open at 1 PM.
[QUOTE=PrinceRaj2126;1655613]If you are looking for a Happy ending, it's there everywhere. As even a Legit MP, would offer all.
But there are some like Dream teen, which is really nice and standard as like Angel in BKK. [URL]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/[/URL].
May not be a complete PSE, but many girls there offer A+....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! I visited Dream Teen today and saw May (see their website for pictures). She's 25, not exactly a teen, but very cute and sweet and speaks very good English. Definitely a cut above what's generally available in Pattaya. And somewhat more expensive, too: a standard room for an hour was 550 baht, and May wanted 1500, which I willingly gave her, without attempting to negotiate. Perhaps I could have talked her down, but that kind of ruins the experience for me (maybe for her, too), and the amount of money at stake is really pretty small.
Bruce.
[QUOTE=PrinceRaj2126;1655613]But there there some like Dream teen, which is really nice and standard as like Angel in BKK. [URL]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/[/URL].
May not be a complete PSE, but many girls there offer A+. Else you have Devils Den, but on higher side.
Cheers[/QUOTE]If you do a solo Devils Den lady outcall to your hotel the cost is about the same as a Dream Teen incall session.
SunLover.
What's the rate for Dream teen incall?
Do they really have teen true to their name?
LOL
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1656027]If you do a solo Devils Den lady outcall to your hotel the cost is about the same as a Dream Teen incall session.
SunLover.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vbbbb;1656179]What's the rate for Dream teen incall?
Do they really have teen true to their name?
LOL[/QUOTE]Take a look at my post two below yours!
The house rates vary depending on what kind of room, how long and how many women, but it's all on their website. What you pay the women is negotiable.
The woman I selected is 25. I didn't see anyone who was likely a true teenager, but who knows for sure? I didn't take a survey.
Bruce.
Nattaya Massage, Second Road, Soi 13. Approximately half way down the soi beneath the Inn House hotel.
Quite a lot of the ladies there have big boobs, C-cup or more. Most of them are MILFS though but some of them rather good looking.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1656365]Nattaya Massage, Second Road, Soi 13. Approximately half way down the soi beneath the Inn House hotel.
Quite a lot of the ladies there have big boobs, C-cup or more. Most of them are MILFS though but some of them rather good looking.[/QUOTE]Yes, I reported on these girls a while back. I was staying at Inn House and called in from their service. The girls are big boobed and fuller in proportions. Also highly chatty. But in terms of extras you can expect only high priced hand jobs. Not something one would want to get whilst in Pattaya. However may be if you become a regular for a girl the chances for FS increase.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;1655641]What is the best go go that plays classic rock / heavy music?
I have heard Peppermint delivers some solid sounds?
I'm just so over the damn car alarm sounds that are in most of the joints.[/QUOTE]According to Stickman's latest column there is a new place in Soi LK Metro called 'Cave' that plays rock'nroll all night long.
Have hit a few Agogo's off walking street, Papagayos on soi 13, off Second Road, headed towards LK Metro, near Beefeaters restaurant: 800 baht BF, 2000 baht St, 3000 baht LT, baby you cute, but... BF does not reduce after midnight.
Tim's Bar beer on Second Rd, near Soi 13, Big Indoor bar. 1000 baht BF for the dancers, 800 baht BF the hostesses, 2000 baht ST, 3000 baht LT. BF also does not reduce after midnight. Tim's got rooms upstairs, anyone know if one can ST there?
I've BF and ST 3 times, what occurred was not as great as I had hoped. Take last night for example, I BF'ed one of Tim's Hostesses, (only saw 2 ladies to my liking.) Slim, petite, said she was 35 yrs old, (didn't look it,) with a 1 yr old child. (cool, she been around the block.) Get back to the Hotel, and start the festivities only to have her act like a giggling lil girl. WTF! :(
I'm sticking to the BJ bars. Better results and less baht.
[QUOTE=Lusty99;1654777]Haven't been to Pattaya for a couple of years now, so anyone have any recommendations for what I'm looking for, would be much appreciated. As per title, am looking for massage parlors in Pattaya which offer oily massages with full service at the end, the same sort of service that Mango and Tulip provide in BKK. Eg. You can just walk into the massage parlor, choose a girl, pay around 2000 baht for an oily massage that includes all the trimmings, no need to negotiate, she brings you to a private room with connected shower, you get cleaned up, massaged, and then end with full service. Is there anything like this in Pattaya? I know of the various soapies with the fishbowls and stuff but looking more for the Mango / Tulip style experience. I know there are various massage shops where you can negotiate happy ending after a massage but trying to skip all that stuff and just want a known upfront service.
Any recommendations would be great if you know of any.[/QUOTE]Soi Honey off Pattaya 2nd Rd. Or Soi 6 in Jomtien are all full sex shops. Generally 1,000b for an average looker & 1,500b for a real great looker. Cost of massage added.
[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1656507]Soi Honey off Pattaya 2nd Rd. Or Soi 6 in Jomtien are all full sex shops. Generally 1,000b for an average looker & 1,500b for a real great looker. Cost of massage added.[/QUOTE]There are no great lookers. Best you can get is a bit below average. The ones that look half way decent look like men.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1656365]Nattaya Massage, Second Road, Soi 13. Approximately half way down the soi beneath the Inn House hotel.
Quite a lot of the ladies there have big boobs, C-cup or more. Most of them are MILFS though but some of them rather good looking.[/QUOTE]One of the best post!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1656412]
Tim's Bar beer on Second Rd, near Soi 13, Big Indoor bar. 1000 baht BF for the dancers, 800 baht BF the hostesses, 2000 baht ST, 3000 baht LT. BF also does not reduce after midnight. Tim's got rooms upstairs, anyone know if one can ST there?
[/QUOTE]Unlikely that they give out those rooms for ST. The hotel connected to the Tim's Bar is Fourteen Again and it is a 'proper' hotel in the sense that the rooms are well appointed and some even have jacuzzi's. The only reason I had picked this hotel to stay at was because of the jacuzzi rooms (limited). Perhaps they may ask you to pay the full rate to use the room, but IMHO I don't think its possible to take a room for ST. The girls some of them at this bar are pretty but really lacking in communication skills I found. The girl who sat with me was 19 and could hardly speak English and inspite of having periods decided to solicit me for one drink!
[QUOTE=Margaya;1656603]One of the best post![/QUOTE]You're welcome. Although ActionOriented deserves the credit as he already reported about them.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1656674]You're welcome. Although ActionOriented deserves the credit as he already reported about them.[/QUOTE]LOL, your description of the place was much better and it attracted more eye balls. Who has time to read long descriptive reports I post. :)
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1654824]During the past few years a tsunami of Russians has certainly hit Pattaya. Has the ruble devaluation had an effect on the tourist or real estate market?
SL[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya now and the Russians are there in spades it seems. I have nothing against Russians but it beats me why they can not sit down and enjoy a beer at a bar like everybody else? And the "freak show" that WS has become is really just a pain in the ass. I try to avoid if I can. Chinese tourists in bus loads, Indian "wolf packs", Russians walking and drinking at the same time (it should be prohibited by law!) hookers, freaks, salespeople. It just get more crazy every year. Much nicer at LK Metro area with excellent go-gos! I have been mongering in SE Asia for almost 10 years and Pattaya walking street is of course nice the first 2-3 times. After that it becomes just a place you want to pass as quickly as possible. Lots of fun to be found in Pattaya still. Just look around. This is my first post. Thanks to the contribution from many of the members over the years. It is really appreciated and a great help.
Hi,
Can someone tell me, how much tip is expected in soapy massage places like, Honey, Sabai room etc?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BlackSept;1656986]Can someone tell me, how much tip is expected in sopay massage places like, Honey, Sabai room etc?[/QUOTE][U]IMO no tip is expected, but that said:[/U]
200 baht for good service.
300 baht for very good service.
400 baht for excellent service.
SL.
[QUOTE=Aviator12;1656823]I'm in Pattaya now and the Russians are there in spades it seems.[/QUOTE]I suppose with the state of the ruble it would be the same anywhere they travel abroad, but I can't imagine losing 50% (prices doubling) for Russian tourists in the last six months not having an impact. Maybe they are just completing planned vacations, and new booking will be down. And maybe those who made the foreign investment (property in Thailand) got enough rubles out of before the deval and are doing relatively well. Time will tell; but I think there was enough Russian money supporting property values in Pattaya that there might be a bit of a crash somewhere in the future.
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1657005]I suppose with the state of the ruble it would be the same anywhere they travel abroad, but I can't imagine losing 50% (prices doubling) for Russian tourists in the last six months not having an impact. Maybe they are just completing planned vacations, and new booking will be down. And maybe those who made the foreign investment (property in Thailand) got enough rubles out of before the deval and are doing relatively well. Time will tell; but I think there was enough Russian money supporting property values in Pattaya that there might be a bit of a crash somewhere in the future.
SL.[/QUOTE]Greetings from Moscow!
Times are indeed rough here. I watched my local salary decline 50% in the last 3 months. A frigging disaster.
Funny enough many of my colleagues have not changed their vacation plans despite the ruble. X-mass holidays coming up and Russkies love to travel (even they want to leave this god forsaken country). A bunch of them are even going to the USA (Hawaii, Florida).
However, I expect that they will feel more of the bite a few months from now and stop traveling so frequently to the expensive West.
Thailand and Pattaya are considered low budget destinations here. Maybe this will change as the upper middle class has to adjust to the new realities. The silver lining is that Patts may get a better quality of Russian than it has in the past, as the poorer folk don't have the cash to travel and the richer ones have to adjust to more affordable destinations. So maybe we will get more behaved ones in the future.
If I had my druthers I would want them to all just stay in Russia. Bad enough I have to deal with them here on a daily basis. Especially the surly loutish males of their species.
The hot Russian chicks are always welcome. Though, I wish they would smile more.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=Aviator12;1656823] And the "freak show" that WS has become is really just a pain in the ass. I try to avoid if I can. Chinese tourists in bus loads, Indian "wolf packs", Russians walking and drinking at the same time (it should be prohibited by law!) hookers, freaks, salespeople.[/QUOTE]Hookers in Walking Street? Geez, it's a shame! LOL!
*Non Monger report*.
Yesterday I went to the big electronics market, know as Tuk Com. Not far from WS entrance. On South Pattaya Rd, walking distance from Second Rd, right around where the road curves. Look up to the tall building with "Tuk Com" on it. 6 floors of electronics. Pseudo Apple store on the ground floor, (go around the escalator or through the Starbucks.).
Second floor is cellphones, tablets, phablets, cases, cables. They got everything, new, used and copy. For the most part, everyone is selling the same things, bargain and get a better price.
Third floor had small selection of flat screens, computers, cameras, home security.
Fourth floor was computers, laptops and desktops. Didn't see any of the thin laptops.
Fifth floor was computer parts, software and games, PS4 and Xbox expensive, games slightly more than in the US. DVD's for 100 baht each, $3 USD, better quality than those bought on the street.
Not much on the Sixth floor. Seventh floor sealed off. Food court in the sub level.
I went because a street vender, on Beach Rd, was selling Beats Pill portable stereo speaker. He initially wanted 1300 baht, $39 USD but when I balked, he lowered it to 1000 baht. Found it at Tuk Com for 800 baht, $24 USD. It's a knock-off, but works, sounds well. Am considering buying an authentic one when I get states side.
[QUOTE=AwesomeMan;1656388]According to Stickman's latest column there is a new place in Soi LK Metro called 'Cave' that plays rock'nroll all night long.[/QUOTE]Awesome. Awesome Man.
Thanks
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1657195]*Non Monger report*.
Yesterday I went to the big electronics market, know as Tuk Com. Not far from WS entrance. On South Pattaya Rd, walking distance from Second Rd, right around where the road curves. Look up to the tall building with "Tuk Com" on it. 6 floors of electronics. Pseudo Apple store on the ground floor, (go around the escalator or through the Starbucks.).
Second floor is cellphones, tablets, phablets, cases, cables. They got everything, new, used and copy. For the most part, everyone is selling the same things, bargain and get a better price.
Third floor had small selection of flat screens, computers, cameras, home security.
Fourth floor was computers, laptops and desktops. Didn't see any of the thin laptops.
Fifth floor was computer parts, software and games, PS4 and Xbox expensive, games slightly more than in the US. DVD's for 100 baht each, $3 USD, better quality than those bought on the street.
Not much on the Sixth floor. Seventh floor sealed off. Food court in the sub level.
I went because a street vender, on Beach Rd, was selling Beats Pill portable stereo speaker. He initially wanted 1300 baht, $39 USD but when I balked, he lowered it to 1000 baht. Found it at Tuk Com for 800 baht, $24 USD. It's a knock-off, but works, sounds well. Am considering buying an authentic one when I get states side.[/QUOTE]I think you will find its on google maps, I didn't go in but picked a girl up who worked there using a chat application, she was in accounts and was amazing how much business some of the stores do, we only did monkey business.
[QUOTE]Yesterday I went to the big electronics market, know as Tuk Com. . . . Food court in the sub level.[/QUOTE]The basement level also features a useful store that sells all kinds of miscellaneous electrical and electronic things. So if you need an extension cord, batteries, voltage converter, socket adapter, etcetera they have it there. Right next to that store there is a tiny supermarket. It's not impressive, but it's got everything you need and the prices are lower than at the fancy markets that cater to falangs at Central and The Avenue.
The food court on the lower level at Tuk Com is OK, especially if it's raining and you want an air-conditioned space to sit indoors. But the food is better from the vendors that set up shop on the same side of South Pattaya Road about 100 meters west.
Bunky
The basement level also features a useful store that sells all kinds of miscellaneous electrical and electronic things. So if you need an extension cord, batteries, voltage converter, socket adapter, etcetera they have it there. Right next to that store there is a tiny supermarket. It's not impressive, but it's got everything you need and the prices are lower than at the fancy markets that cater to falangs at Central and The Avenue.
May I recommend 7-11 for all your eletrical things. I own shares!
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1657005]I suppose with the state of the ruble it would be the same anywhere they travel abroad, but I can't imagine losing 50% (prices doubling) for Russian tourists in the last six months not having an impact. Maybe they are just completing planned vacations, and new booking will be down. And maybe those who made the foreign investment (property in Thailand) got enough rubles out of before the deval and are doing relatively well. Time will tell; but I think there was enough Russian money supporting property values in Pattaya that there might be a bit of a crash somewhere in the future.
SL.[/QUOTE]This article seems to agree - [URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism/450460/tourist-arrivals-eke-out-2-5-gain-in-nov[/URL].
Not sure why the article has so many typos.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1657654]This article seems to agree - [URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism/450460/tourist-arrivals-eke-out-2-5-gain-in-nov[/URL].[/QUOTE]The situation has got to be having a big effect on the Pattaya area. I was watching Bloomberg TV real-time the other day when the Ruble-USD exchange rate went from 60 to 80 (a 25% move down) and then back to the mid-60's in the matter of a couple of hours. Such financial market instability is SCARY and has at least an indirect economic effect on all of us. This too will pass; but it might get even more ugly until then: [URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-17/russian-tourists-with-rubles-told-nein-to-no-at-exchange-kiosks.html[/URL].
Hang in there Uncle Volodya!
SunLover.
Sanpetch Suppabawonsathien, president of the Thai Hotels Association, said the Russian tourist market in Pattaya was slumping for the first time in 12 years. "Hotel room reservations from the Russian market have already dropped by 70% for this high season," he said. "Some Pattaya hotels are operating at only 30% capacity in high season. Chinese visitors have overtaken Russians as the biggest market for Pattaya. "
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism/450522/russians-give-pattaya-a-big-miss[/URL]
The report states the Russians are the third biggest market for Thai tourism. Who's one and two? I've been looking for a monthly rental in Pattaya, and have been unable to find one at a decent rate. Three places I looked at have no availability.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1657911]"Hotel room reservations from the Russian market have already dropped by 70% for this high season," he said."[/QUOTE]This is sad news!:)
I will be there next week!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1657911]Sanpetch Suppabawonsathien, president of the Thai Hotels Association, said the Russian tourist market in Pattaya was slumping for the first time in 12 years. "Hotel room reservations from the Russian market have already dropped by 70% for this high season," he said. "Some Pattaya hotels are operating at only 30% capacity in high season. Chinese visitors have overtaken Russians as the biggest market for Pattaya. "
[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tourism/450522/russians-give-pattaya-a-big-miss[/URL]
The report states the Russians are the third biggest market for Thai tourism. Who's one and two? I've been looking for a monthly rental in Pattaya, and have been unable to find one at a decent rate. Three places I looked at have no availability.[/QUOTE]Supposedly Thai Airways cut direct flights from North America due to rising fuel costs. With oil at an all time low. Maybe it's time to resume direct flights and recapture the North American market again!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1657911]
The report states the Russians are the third biggest market for Thai tourism. Who's one and two?.[/QUOTE]China and Malaysia.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1658147]Maybe it's time to resume direct flights and recapture the North American market again![/QUOTE]For better or worse, the North American market is pretty irrelevant for Thailand from here on out. It's all about Asia now.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1658147]Supposedly Thai Airways cut direct flights from North America due to rising fuel costs. With oil at an all time low. Maybe it's time to resume direct flights and recapture the North American market again![/QUOTE]Amen brother; but it is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Thai Airlines discontinued their [I]non-stop[/I] flights to LAX and JFK, but still have a direct (1 stop) BKK-LAX flight via ICN. Both TG and SQ returned their A345 metal (which was capable of making the North America journey non-stop) to Airbus. The new and fuel efficient Boeing 787-9 could make BKK-SFO / LAX non-stop but I don't think the city pair (s) market is big enough to support it, and there are already plenty of NA TATL / TPAC connecting options.
SunLover.
Anyone have any first hand accounts of the castle in Pattaya? Use a girl? And how much? What are you allowed to do and what can't you do?
[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1658541]Anyone have any first hand accounts of the castle in Pattaya? Use a girl? And how much? What are you allowed to do and what can't you do?[/QUOTE]How much, is on the Castle website, and UP TO U! Regarding your other questions, it's Thailand, you can get whatever you want, however you want it. :D And no, I have not gone. For that amount I can get 2 at the Devils Den. :D [URL]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/thai-mistress.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1658147]Supposedly Thai Airways cut direct flights from North America due to rising fuel costs. With oil at an all time low. Maybe it's time to resume direct flights and recapture the North American market again![/QUOTE]The issue has everything to do with capacity load over the distance. The payload decrease in carrying the fuel over the non-stop distance cut the flight profit margins so thin that it became practical to increase the profit by stopping. TG had stopped in Osaka but only for fuel. Evidently they have moved on to using Incheon.
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1657648]The basement level also features a useful store that sells all kinds of miscellaneous electrical and electronic things. So if you need an extension cord, batteries, voltage converter, socket adapter, etcetera they have it there. Right next to that store there is a tiny supermarket. It's not impressive, but it's got everything you need and the prices are lower than at the fancy markets that cater to falangs at Central and The Avenue.
May I recommend 7-11 for all your eletrical things. I own shares![/QUOTE]The market is "TOPS" - small but has most things. It's the same market as Central and 2nd Road just 1/5 the size.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1658671]For that amount I can get 2 at the Devils Den. :D[/QUOTE]While this is still true I checked out the DD website the other day and it looks like their in-call prices have gone up recently. Two ladies / 90 minutes is now 4,000 baht up from 3,600 baht. Puts them more in line with Eden Club in Bangkok which is currently charging two ladies / 90 minutes for 4,400 baht.
SL.
I was looking for a FL yesterday evening on Beach Road and for a change I started in the vicinity of Soi 6 and walked in the direction of Walking Street. Normally I don't go further north than Central Festival because the numbers get thinner there but I wanted to see some new faces.
But I didn't see many. There was a lot of police and apparently they had 'cleaned up' the area up to approximately Central Festival. I don't know if they went further south than that as that is where most FL's are hanging out after all.
Maybe it's me but it strikes me that a lot of the FL's on Beach Road hardly dare to make eye contact anymore, or smile at you or say the well known 'go with you? I guess they are afraid to get caught for solliciting.
Or they don't like me anymore of course, LOL!
Nevertheless I found a cute 19 yo not far from Walking Street. A little spinner with a great body (no kids) who gave a good BBBJ.
Did some DATY but her pussy was not 100% fresh. CFS was okay but nothing special, she was not really tight.
Maybe I'll repeat for the BBBJ and because she was a very nice girl.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659065]I was looking for a FL yesterday evening on Beach Road and for a change I started in the vicinity of Soi 6 and walked in the direction of Walking Street. Normally I don't go further north than Central Festival because the numbers get thinner there but I wanted to see some new faces.
But I didn't see many. There was a lot of police and apparently they had 'cleaned up' the area up to approximately Central Festival. I don't know if they went further south than that as that is where most FL's are hanging out after all.
Maybe it's me but it strikes me that a lot of the FL's on Beach Road hardly dare to make eye contact anymore, or smile at you or say the well known 'go with you? I guess they are afraid to get caught for solliciting.
Or they don't like me anymore of course, LOL!
Nevertheless I found a cute 19 yo not far from Walking Street. A little spinner with a great body (no kids) who gave a good BBBJ.
Did some DATY but her pussy was not 100% fresh. CFS was okay but nothing special, she was not really tight.
Maybe I'll repeat for the BBBJ and because she was a very nice girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I will be hitting BR next week to check out the scene.
BTW how much did you pay the little cutie?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659091]Thanks for the update. I will be hitting BR next week to check out the scene.
BTW how much did you pay the little cutie?[/QUOTE]She asked for 800 B and that's what I gave her. I didn't tip her because I only had 1000 notes left and her service was not good enough to reward her with 200 tip.
Typically what most girls on BR will ask these days is 700. Or 1000 if they look good (or think they look good).
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659095]She asked for 800 B and that's what I gave her. I didn't tip her because I only had 1000 notes left and her service was not good enough to reward her with 200 tip.
Typically what most girls on BR will ask these days is 700. Or 1000 if they look good (or think they look good).[/QUOTE]1 k baht seem to be reasonable for better looking girls with Christmas round the corner. I hope prices don't drastically change between 23rd and 28th Dec.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659065]Maybe it's me but it strikes me that a lot of the FL's on Beach Road hardly dare to make eye contact anymore, or smile at you or say the well known 'go with you? I guess they are afraid to get caught for solliciting.
Or they don't like me anymore of course, LOL![/QUOTE]Not just you, I've been here since late Nov, and report similar experience. I've walked between WS and soi 7 and have not heard "go with you. " Have to go up to the one you like. And Friday night, Pattayas finest, cleaned up Beach road, near the entrance to WS. They were leaving with a Baht bus full of SW's, with moto cop escort as I was walking through the area. Couple days ago, picked up a cutie for 700 baht (ST) (she wanted 1000 baht LT,) initially wanted to do a CBJ, but changed her mind when I was about to walk. BBBJ was nutin to brag about.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1659096]1 k baht seem to be reasonable for better looking girls with Christmas round the corner. I hope prices don't drastically change between 23rd and 28th Dec.[/QUOTE]Christmas? Thailand is not a Christian country. And as Java Man said, 1000 baht is LT price.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1659102]Not just you, I've been here since late Nov, and report similar experience. I've walked between WS and soi 7 and have not heard "go with you. " Have to go up to the one you like. .[/QUOTE]Does it really make a difference? As long as the girls are there its cool. We know they are not out on Beach road to say their evening prayers before bedtime. LOL.
1 K LT. Price is right!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659116]Does it really make a difference? As long as the girls are there its cool. We know they are not out on Beach road to say their evening prayers before bedtime. LOL.[/QUOTE]You mean, when they are on their knees with your dick in their mouths, they are not praying to the God of Flesh?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1659109]Christmas? Thailand is not a Christian country. And as Java Man said, 1000 baht is LT price.[/QUOTE]I assumed being holiday season lot of people might be visiting pattaya during this time hence the thought.. .nonetheless will experience it for myself in the coming week.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1659109]Christmas? Thailand is not a Christian country. And as Java Man said, 1000 baht is LT price.[/QUOTE]No, Thailand is not a Christian country. But you hear these damned Christmas songs everywhere you go, you see Christmas trees everywhere and (working) girls wear silly Christmas hats.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659091]Thanks for the update. I will be hitting BR next week to check out the scene.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1659121]I assumed being holiday season lot of people might be visiting pattaya during this time hence the thought.. .nonetheless will experience it for myself in the coming week.[/QUOTE]Hope I don't disappoint you too much but between December 25th and 31st Beach Road will be filled with festivities and stalls instead of FL's. Pattaya Countdown Festival....
That's why I'm out of here on December 24th.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659138]Hope I don't disappoint you too much but between December 25th and 31st Beach Road will be filled with festivities and stalls instead of FL's. Pattaya Countdown Festival....
That's why I'm out of here on December 24th.[/QUOTE]Mogwai I have the seasonality factor on back of my mind hence the queries. I hope to manage well though with a buddy travelling along. Worst case scenario would be to go back to BKK. No problem.
Would request other forum members to share their experiences if they were in pattaya last year during the same time.
TIA.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659138]Hope I don't disappoint you too much but between December 25th and 31st Beach Road will be filled with festivities and stalls instead of FL's. Pattaya Countdown Festival....
That's why I'm out of here on December 24th.[/QUOTE]Well that does suck. But I am in town until Jan 7 so I should at least have a few days of BR action.
Maybe some of them will migrate to the FL clubs like Red Car and Insomina (if they let them in). Are there any clubs like that in North of WS?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659206]
Maybe some of them will migrate to the FL clubs like Red Car and Insomina (if they let them in). Are there any clubs like that in North of WS?[/QUOTE]Other than Red Car, I-Bar (Insomnia), the other places you can catch FLs are: Mixx (near the pier. Far end of WS), Marine disco (center of WS) and 808 (center of WS).
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1659209]Other than Red Car, I-Bar (Insomnia), the other places you can catch FLs are: Mixx (near the pier. Far end of WS), Marine disco (center of WS) and 808 (center of WS).[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Been to all of those. I was thinking if there was something north of South Pattaya road, in the LK Metro or Soi Bukhao areas. Maybe even Naklua?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659252]Thanks man. Been to all of those. I was thinking if there was something north of South Pattaya road, in the LK Metro or Soi Bukhao areas. Maybe even Naklua?[/QUOTE]Naklua, there is a semi Thai called Starlight nothing special not worth the time, North, Hollywood, Dilfer, etc. Mostly want I call spoiled Thais very tough for pickup.
Nothing LK Metro or Soi Bukhao. Last Christmas I was at Pier next to Marine I thought it was pretty good.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659334]Naklua, there is a semi Thai called Starlight nothing special not worth the time, North, Hollywood, Dilfer, etc. Mostly want I call spoiled Thais very tough for pickup.
Nothing LK Metro or Soi Bukhao. Last Christmas I was at Pier next to Marine I thought it was pretty good.[/QUOTE]I think if someone was to open a FL disco around LK or Soi Bukow, it would do well. Not everyone likes or wants to go to walking street. Me included.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1659143]Mogwai I have the seasonality factor on back of my mind hence the queries. I hope to manage well though with a buddy travelling along. Worst case scenario would be to go back to BKK. No problem.
Would request other forum members to share their experiences if they were in pattaya last year during the same time.
TIA.[/QUOTE]I was here last year between Christmas and New Year and I can tell you this: Beach Road sucks during that time. The whole stretch, and yes that is from Soi 1 up to Walking Street, is filled with and endless line of serried stalls that sell food and all kinds of useless stuff that you can already buy all over Pattaya (and I don't mean girls obviously).
Almost all of the FL's were gone. Only a few (but not the best ones) were standing in between the stalls but there was hardly any room for them. Also a few on the other side of the road or in the soi's but only a hand full. To be honest I don't know where they all went. I guess a part of them moved to the disco's and another part just skips this time and stays home. Or they contact their regulars.
Yesterday evening I went to Walking Street and when I returned to my hotel around midnight the police had cleaned up the whole stretch. There were hardly any FL's left, it was really bizar to see Beach Road that empty (except for the mongers and tourists of course).
They have already made a start setting up the stalls and it wouldn't surprise me if they clean up the area again each night until Christmas.
PS: apologies that the pic is upside down. Somehow I cannot correct this.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1659385]I think if someone was to open a FL disco around LK or Soi Bukow, it would do well. Not everyone likes or wants to go to walking street. Me included.[/QUOTE]Personally, I myself am not looking for a disco? As for the Soi Buakhao / LK I wish there was just a decent size hotel with a small disco like the one that use to be at Nana (Angel) or Climax near Ambass? That would be enough for me? All the one's being discuss is just too large so why another one?
Last night I was watching as the police were rounding up the ladyboys off of beach road.
I saw at least two truckloads being towed off.
Other than that, beach road had a good share of FLs.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659386]I was here last year between Christmas and New Year and I can tell you this: Beach Road sucks during that time. The whole stretch, and yes that is from Soi 1 up to Walking Street, is filled with and endless line of serried stalls that sell food and all kinds of useless stuff that you can already buy all over Pattaya (and I don't mean girls obviously).
Almost all of the FL's were gone. Only a few (but not the best ones) were standing in between the stalls but there was hardly any room for them. Also a few on the other side of the road or in the soi's but only a hand full. To be honest I don't know where they all went. I guess a part of them moved to the disco's and another part just skips this time and stays home. Or they contact their regulars.
Yesterday evening I went to Walking Street and when I returned to my hotel around midnight the police had cleaned up the whole stretch. There were hardly any FL's left, it was really bizar to see Beach Road that empty (except for the mongers and tourists of course).
They have already made a start setting up the stalls and it wouldn't surprise me if they clean up the area again each night until Christmas.
PS: apologies that the pic is upside down. Somehow I cannot correct this.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info man.
Yes these stalls are so damn idiotic. You describe them perfectly.
Hopefully it won't last all the way up to New Year. Good that there are so many other options in town.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1659399]Last night I was watching as the police were rounding up the ladyboys off of beach road.
I saw at least two truckloads being towed off.
Other than that, beach road had a good share of FLs.[/QUOTE]What time was that? At about midnight 99,9% of the FL's were gone. All of them, not just the lady boys. I saw a few of the last ladies being ordered to get into a jeepney.
Anyway, this morning the 'morning crew' of ladies was present again as if nothing happened yesterday. TIT.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659405]Thanks for the info man.
Yes these stalls are so damn idiotic. You describe them perfectly.
Hopefully it won't last all the way up to New Year. Good that there are so many other options in town.[/QUOTE]Last year it lasted all the way up to New Year I'm afraid.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1659405]Thanks for the info man.
Yes these stalls are so damn idiotic. You describe them perfectly.
Hopefully it won't last all the way up to New Year. Good that there are so many other options in town.[/QUOTE]This is what Pattaya is all about these days since this mayor took over a few years ago. It is a year round carnival. Especially end of the year. He gives free tents and charge nothing at least the first year for vendors to sell their goods and basically close down Beach Road. Divert all the traffic into side streets. They do a sweep and charge the offenders 100 baht. Get real. It's not to end P4 P just to annoy them and tell them to go away until it is over. Many will go to second road and stand around the Avenue? Many go to the Beergarden and later over to Bamboo. Many you will find down towards Marine on 2nd Road staying near Big Mac, outside the 7/11?
W. S. Will be the new Beach Road for a few days and once cross under the arch. The price goes up?
It will get worse traffic wise just to get into Pattaya, they will tear up Sukhumvit and Pattaya Klang to make a bypass, this will take years moving all the traffic including on events to 2 or 3 Soi' the nightmare begins 2015?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659429]This is what Pattaya is all about these days since this mayor took over a few years ago. It is a year round carnival. Especially end of the year. He gives free tents and charge nothing at least the first year for vendors to sell their goods and basically close down Beach Road. Divert all the traffic into side streets. They do a sweep and charge the offenders 100 baht. Get real. It's not to end P4 P just to annoy them and tell them to go away until it is over. Many will go to second road and stand around the Avenue? Many go to the Beergarden and later over to Bamboo. Many you will find down towards Marine on 2nd Road staying near Big Mac, outside the 7/11?
W. S. Will be the new Beach Road for a few days and once cross under the arch. The price goes up?
It will get worse traffic wise just to get into Pattaya, they will tear up Sukhumvit and Pattaya Klang to make a bypass, this will take years moving all the traffic including on events to 2 or 3 Soi' the nightmare begins 2015?[/QUOTE]Walking Street was certainly not the new Beach Road last year during this time. Hardly any FL's there back then. I didn't check out the other places you mention.
Check out Alcatraz Agogo in Walking Street. They have a lady working there who's only 1. 45 m and 35 kg.
31 yo if I remember well. Very nice girl also and reasonably good looking.
FL can be found at Billabong Bar, it's in the middle of LK Metro. It's open 24 hrs. Also has a hotel.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659386]I was here last year between Christmas and New Year and I can tell you this.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mogwai. Really appreciate your sharing of last year experience.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659386]I was here last year between Christmas and New Year and I can tell you this: Beach Road sucks during that time. The whole stretch, and yes that is from Soi 1 up to Walking Street, is filled with and endless line of serried stalls that sell food and all kinds of useless stuff that you can already buy all over Pattaya (and I don't mean girls obviously).
Almost all of the FL's were gone. Only a few (but not the best ones) were standing in between the stalls but there was hardly any room for them. Also a few on the other side of the road or in the soi's but only a hand full. To be honest I don't know where they all went. I guess a part of them moved to the disco's and another part just skips this time and stays home. Or they contact their regulars.
Yesterday evening I went to Walking Street and when I returned to my hotel around midnight the police had cleaned up the whole stretch. There were hardly any FL's left, it was really bizar to see Beach Road that empty (except for the mongers and tourists of course).
They have already made a start setting up the stalls and it wouldn't surprise me if they clean up the area again each night until Christmas.
PS: apologies that the pic is upside down. Somehow I cannot correct this.[/QUOTE]It's going to suck like that until January 5,2015. I'll be coming back on Jan 6, 2015. I used to love Pattaya on New Years but not any longer. It's ruined. Screw scratching around Road 2.
[QUOTE=JesseJames;1659513]It's going to suck like that until January 5,2015. I'll be coming back on Jan 6, 2015. I used to love Pattaya on New Years but not any longer. It's ruined. Screw scratching around Road 2.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what time of year you go to Pattaya, it will NEVER SUCK!
Coming from someone that has been traveling to LOS since 1978!
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659431]Walking Street was certainly not the new Beach Road last year during this time. Hardly any FL's there back then. I didn't check out the other places you mention.[/QUOTE]Most of them will hang out in front of Mike's Shopping Mall, Subway sandwich, Down near the Big Mac, Also some of the more popular Soi's the 13's on Beach and Second Road. As noted they venture also near Big Mac at the Avenue. On Walking Street across from Lucifers there is a bunch standing right outside the bar (P72?) walked up that small Soi or Alley to Second Road, turn right there usually a few standing or walking around towards Marine Hotel. A few across standing in front of Big Mac. Although many of these go with Indians and MiddleEasterns.
If you are a night owl, across from Peppermint there is a walkway that leads to Marine Seafood, there is a bar with a bunch of pool tables there are pretty of FL there early morning.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1659515]It doesn't matter what time of year you go to Pattaya, it will NEVER SUCK!
Coming from someone that has been traveling to LOS since 1978![/QUOTE]Thanks Tom your words are a great relief especially when I am going to be boarding flight to LOS in the next few hours. It's my first trip to Pattaya hence don't want it to be washout one.
Hi bro,
Need some guidance in planning the itinerary for my trip.
I am 32 year old Indian male. Planning maiden voyage to Pattaya (alone). Will be there for 4 nights. Plan to visit DD and a club LT girl on 1 night. Want to try sopie and castle 9 next day then club girl for LT. Next oily / soapy then Soi 6ST and beach road LT. 4 day for anything that you guys recommend up. Can you guide me with some tried and tested bars / oily / sopies or contacts of some gems.
I want to try a hardcore threesome hence DD.
Some SM action hence Castle 9.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1659515]It doesn't matter what time of year you go to Pattaya, it will NEVER SUCK!
Coming from someone that has been traveling to LOS since 1978![/QUOTE]It sucks compared to 4 days ago. It will really suck from the 25th onward and than get better Jan 5. Still better than USA.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1659581]Thanks Tom your words are a great relief especially when I am going to be boarding flight to LOS in the next few hours. It's my first trip to Pattaya hence don't want it to be washout one.[/QUOTE]PM me, I will be here until the 30th.
Pattaya rocks year round.
[QUOTE=JesseJames;1659629]It sucks compared to 4 days ago. It will really suck from the 25th onward and than get better Jan 5. Still better than USA.[/QUOTE]Beach Road might suck, but there is so much more to this town then one fucking road!
Sometimes I simply want a good, legitimate massage. I'd just as soon not get into a shop where I can get a "pretty good" massage and where the girls are also looking for the opportunity to provide something "special" and make extra money. I'd like to avoid that.
I've got a couple of places in BKK that are just perfect for me when I'm in the mood for a good massage. So far, however, I've not found such a place in Pattaya.
All recommendations greatly appreciated.
SW4.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1659647]PM me, I will be here until the 30th.
Pattaya rocks year round.[/QUOTE]Absolutely! I am not worried at all. Still plenty of nubile young lovelies on offer even without BR in play.
[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;1659662]Sometimes I simply want a good, legitimate massage. I'd just as soon not get into a shop where I can get a "pretty good" massage and where the girls are also looking for the opportunity to provide something "special" and make extra money. I'd like to avoid that.
I've got a couple of places in BKK that are just perfect for me when I'm in the mood for a good massage. So far, however, I've not found such a place in Pattaya.
All recommendations greatly appreciated.
SW4.[/QUOTE]I use a few legit places but mostly likely it is not even close in your area of stay! If you are near Soi Buakhao, LK. Metro. I hear that Eden Massage on Soi Diana is pretty good for legit. I have not use it but one of my friends stays down there and does on a regular basis mostly oil.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;1655641]What is the best go go that plays classic rock / heavy music?
I have heard Peppermint delivers some solid sounds?
I'm just so over the damn car alarm sounds that are in most of the joints.[/QUOTE]Fahrenheit Agogo in Walking Street! Was there last night and they played (heavy) rock.
Might be an underrated agogo by the way. Not many customers but the line up was slightly above average I would say and the atmosphere was good. A mix of 75% coyotes and 25% 'normal' dancers including some top less and a few nudes. But the coyotes behaved more like 'normal' dancers, they didn't stick their noses up in the air.
I was sitting with a 20 yo cutie for a while and the mamasan quoted me 600 BF and 2000 ST. This girl was really cute so I think that's very reasonable compared to most other agogo's.
I didn't barfine her by the way. Have to cut my expenses a bit and I hardly ever barfine agogo girls anyway. If I can resist them, LOL! It's often very tempting to barfine that sweet, young, soft, cuddly cutie in your lap. Oh man.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659761]If you are near Soi Buakhao, LK. Metro. I hear that Eden Massage on Soi Diana is pretty good for legit.[/QUOTE]Eden has a disclaimer on their sign that says absolutely no freaky stuff.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659521]Most of them will hang out in front of Mike's Shopping Mall, Subway sandwich, Down near the Big Mac, Also some of the more popular Soi's the 13's on Beach and Second Road. As noted they venture also near Big Mac at the Avenue. On Walking Street across from Lucifers there is a bunch standing right outside the bar (P72?) walked up that small Soi or Alley to Second Road, turn right there usually a few standing or walking around towards Marine Hotel. A few across standing in front of Big Mac. Although many of these go with Indians and MiddleEasterns.
If you are a night owl, across from Peppermint there is a walkway that leads to Marine Seafood, there is a bar with a bunch of pool tables there are pretty of FL there early morning.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up LBM. Some of these places I didn't know so I will check them out if Beach Road sucks.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659773]Fahrenheit Agogo in Walking Street! Was there last night and they played (heavy) rock.
Might be an underrated agogo by the way. Not many customers but the line up was slightly above average I would say and the atmosphere was good. A mix of 75% coyotes and 25% 'normal' dancers including some top less and a few nudes. But the coyotes behaved more like 'normal' dancers, they didn't stick their noses up in the air.
I was sitting with a 20 yo cutie for a while and the mamasan quoted me 600 BF and 2000 ST. This girl was really cute so I think that's very reasonable compared to most other agogo's.
I didn't barfine her by the way. Have to cut my expenses a bit and I hardly ever barfine agogo girls anyway. If I can resist them, LOL! It's often very tempting to barfine that sweet, young, soft, cuddly cutie in your lap. Oh man.[/QUOTE]Not many customers means something. And not in a good way!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659761]I use a few legit places but mostly likely it is not even close in your area of stay! If you are near Soi Buakhao, LK. Metro. I hear that Eden Massage on Soi Diana is pretty good for legit. I have not use it but one of my friends stays down there and does on a regular basis mostly oil.[/QUOTE]True, I used to be a faithful of Eden (which is next to Robin's Nest. Soi Diana) for clean massages until they stopped allowing me in because some Indian guy must have pissed off management. Panaan massage further down the same road also has good reviews (no extras) but I found the sports massage there a little too strong. The massage shop next to Papagayo A-GoGo is also quite good. Cheap massages and no extras to worry about.
Generally, I do not have any favourites in terms of massage shops and whenever I feel like a legitimate massage, I walk into any of the hundred shops around Pattaya which has the sign of a foot at the entrance which kind of sets out how massages are therapeutic etc. It's not a sure shot way of avoiding being hassled for extras but I have not been troubled so far. Even managed a clean massage on soi 6 relying on this technique.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1659775]Thanks for the heads up LBM. Some of these places I didn't know so I will check them out if Beach Road sucks.[/QUOTE]Here is my take on FL, last night and I might have to correct some of my statements. I do not walk around looking for FL, on Beach Road any longer and do not go to W. S. Just for that purpose but his is what I observed last night after having dinner. I was down on W. S. At 11:30 pm and parked my bike at the end of 2nd Rd and Pattaya Tai.
After parking I walked down towards W. S. Stopped in front of the Bamboo bar to just listen to the music and check inside out. Pretty busy for a Monday night but impossible to check the ladies out unless you actually walk in and doing so means a waiter would follow you expecting you buy a drink. Wasn't going to use my excuses again saying I was looking for a friend?
As I started to walk could never get to W. S. Using the sidewalk it is too narrow right at the Kabob shop and money exchange booth since all the Chinese Tour groups are either too slow or standing around that area. I noticed that the exchange booth for 100 bills was only 32.20 what a rip off since the rate closed something like 32.89? Later when I checked out 2 others seem the best place on W.S. are the two near Soi Diamond just next to Moon G.G. one was giving 32.80. At the entrance to W. S. I noticed 4 right in front of the ATM, FL, up close nothing to jump all over but the Indians group was working them over. As I walked down W. S. I did noticed not many tonight but I did noticed some walking and not standing in one place. They blend in with all the tourist at time and for me at least there is a sense about them which I can't explain that gives them away as FL, a few times they caught me staring at them and they stare back with a smile. Majority of them did not appeal to me! At the P. 72 bar they had set up a police table so no FL were standing there but further down right next to the Roo Bar, at the foot of the entrance to Happy GOGO, there were 6-7 and a few LB? Across from Peppermint also a few.
At 2 pm, walking back to my bike from Marine, I noticed maybe due to the time no many FL, along 2nd Road, the few I saw again not appealing and look like the type that like to go with Indians and MidEastern, in general they are heavy and their hair is jet black and heavy black eyeliner.
Two days to Christmas and I've been told double barfine at the Happy Go Go group! At Bacarra a hand full of top girls will be asking 7,000 baht especially on NYE? The Disco's are already gearing up to give prime table for those who buy bottle service? Not sure what I will do Christmas or NYE? Maybe check out the Steaks and go for Hamburger to see a few of my regulars at 1000/1200 baht?
[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;1659662]Sometimes I simply want a good, legitimate massage.
.... So far, however, I've not found such a place in Pattaya.
All recommendations greatly appreciated.
SW4.[/QUOTE]The massage place attached to the LK Renaisance hotel on Soi Diana is good.
This video featuring some Devil's Den girls is what Christmas should be all about; good cheer and not about jacked up prices or idiotic Chinese tourist hordes clogging up Walking Street. Anyway, it made me smile. Happy 2015!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJCuLmtSILU&feature=youtu.be[/URL]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1659761]I use a few legit places but mostly likely it is not even close in your area of stay! If you are near Soi Buakhao, LK. Metro. I hear that Eden Massage on Soi Diana is pretty good for legit. I have not use it but one of my friends stays down there and does on a regular basis mostly oil.[/QUOTE]Thanks, LBM. I've walked past Eden Massage many times but never gone in. I'll give it a try when I'm there in January.
Many thanks,
SW4.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1659846]..cut........ some Indian guy must have pissed off management....cut......
Generally, I do not have any favourites in terms of massage shops and whenever I feel like a legitimate massage, I walk into any of the hundred shops around Pattaya which has the sign of a foot at the entrance which kind of sets out how massages are therapeutic etc. It's not a sure shot way of avoiding being hassled for extras but I have not been troubled so far. Even managed a clean massage on soi 6 relying on this technique.[/QUOTE]As the thread title. And I am not a racist guy BUT. When I am wanting a real massage, I pick a shop where I you can often see the customers laid back and either just quiet or even maybe asleep (I have myself dozed off).
It becomes a complete wasted hour when some hoard (certain nationalities, often travel in groups) come in, demand discount on a bulk order (or not) but then settle onto the mats or chairs. Then it gets worse, as they don't shut up and disturb the tranquility of the place.
If this is in the same drab as the spitting Chinese. Sorry this is my rant. If any of you reading this and know who you are. Please know how to keep your manners!!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1659648]Beach Road might suck, but there is so much more to this town then one fucking road![/QUOTE]Not really, for the fans of Beach Road. Its just not a group that's going to get much enjoyment out of going to bars or go-gos. You know the old saying - "if you want to fuck someone, go to beach road, if you want to get fucked, go to the bars or go-gos" - truer now than ever with the outrageous prices being charged. In fairness the Beach also isn't as cheap as it once was, and its possible the decline in quality and service is even more severe there than in other venues, but the deciding factor is that when you go to a bar you have to waste time and money sitting there buying an unwanted Coke just to look at 5-15 girls. No thanks.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1660017]Not really, for the fans of Beach Road. [/QUOTE]The Coconut Bar is all yours. I have been going to Pattaya for 35+ years, never saw much on Beach Road that I cared for.
But then again, I'm not a cheap charlie either; to each their own.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1660053]The Coconut Bar is all yours. I have been going to Pattaya for 35+ years, never saw much on Beach Road that I cared for.
But then again, I'm not a cheap charlie either; to each their own.[/QUOTE]Tom, did they ban you from Coconut bar, too?? :D
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1660053]The Coconut Bar is all yours. I have been going to Pattaya for 35+ years, never saw much on Beach Road that I cared for.
But then again, I'm not a cheap charlie either; to each their own.[/QUOTE]I've seen some good lookers on Beach Road as I make my way to WS, but usually too early in the evening for me to make a move. I've also picked up one or two on the way back to the hotel alone, never had any issues. Just no mamason to complain to if something goes wrong.
[QUOTE=MilesToGo;1659997]As the thread title. And I am not a racist guy BUT. When I am wanting a real massage, I pick a shop where I you can often see the customers laid back and either just quiet or even maybe asleep (I have myself dozed off).
It becomes a complete wasted hour when some hoard (certain nationalities, often travel in groups) come in, demand discount on a bulk order (or not) but then settle onto the mats or chairs. Then it gets worse, as they don't shut up and disturb the tranquility of the place.
If this is in the same drab as the spitting Chinese. Sorry this is my rant. If any of you reading this and know who you are. Please know how to keep your manners!![/QUOTE]You'd get better results by addressing this with the shop owner/manager than by doing it here where those people you're ranting about are so unlikely to be reading your rant.
[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;1659986]Thanks, LBM. I've walked past Eden Massage many times but never gone in. I'll give it a try when I'm there in January.
Many thanks,
SW4.[/QUOTE]I've had some great massages at the end of soi buakhao and central pattaya road. There are a few very small massage shops there that offer thai for 100 bht and its legitimate. They also offer oi' massage at I think about 150 or 200 bht. At these prices the girls don't make much so I always tip them at least 100 bht.
It's definitely worth a go.
LAT.
[QUOTE=MilesToGo;1659997]As the thread title. And I am not a racist guy BUT. When I am wanting a real massage, I pick a shop where I you can often see the customers laid back and either just quiet or even maybe asleep (I have myself dozed off).
It becomes a complete wasted hour when some hoard (certain nationalities, often travel in groups) come in, demand discount on a bulk order (or not) but then settle onto the mats or chairs. Then it gets worse, as they don't shut up and disturb the tranquility of the place.
If this is in the same drab as the spitting Chinese. Sorry this is my rant. If any of you reading this and know who you are. Please know how to keep your manners!![/QUOTE]I think if you are looking for quiet then one has a better chance to stay away from shops that are large and can cater to the large group. These shops in my opinion (management) will listen but if they are catering to the tour group and the money they are getting I seriously doubt if they would care if you come back or not but sure they will listen. It is all about the money!
You do have a right to rant but when you " If any of you reading this and know who you are " I doubt any of the problem people you speak of are on this board?
Not my regular place but use to be?
If any of you are near or can get to Pattaya Klang (It is the road where the Big see Extra is located) and 3rd Road. Slightly up from 3rd Road leading up to Big see Extra, on the left you see a huge Green building 3 floors? The entrance has dark smoke glass doors (opens at 1 pm) the later the better? When you enter on the right you will see a fish bowl, tell the mamasan what number you want and whether you want 1 or 2 hours. The rate I think at this time is 260 for 2 hours. They will take you upstairs to a large dark room with a bunch of beds with curtains A / see. You will be given a pants to change into.
The fishbowl is a give away that you can get extra's but not every girl is there for it. The first and foremost you will get a legit Thai massage. The girl you pick will make small talk with you if you like or just want to sleep. I have never been hit on for extra by any of the girls I've picked but thru time through small conversation I have been ask to take them out. There are a few girls that work there that do extra and during your legit massage and they like you would ask if you like a oil massage? If you say yes, they take you to the 3rd floor, FS is 1500 but that was years ago.
But normal service is legit massage and oil's are usually done by the much older ladies the one's that like like bulldogs?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1660053]The Coconut Bar is all yours. I have been going to Pattaya for 35+ years, never saw much on Beach Road that I cared for.
But then again, I'm not a cheap charlie either; to each their own.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Pattaya for 10+ years now and I have found quite a lot of gems among the SW's on Beach Road and (sometimes) Walking Street. In fact some of the best looking and nicest girls I ever met in Pattaya were SW's. And they never worked in a bar or agogo.
To each his own indeed but I think the point is you have to take your time and have patience when you're looking for 'your perfect girl', regardless WHERE you are looking. So this can mean you have to visit a dozen beer bars, or a dozen oilies or a dozen agogo's or any combination of those. OR you have to walk up and down Beach Road 3 times (but not the whole stretch, LOL!).
And yes, it has to do with money also but not all of the Coconut Bar customers are cheap charlies. They just don't have the budget or are not willing to pay thousands of Baths each day for bar girls or agogo girls.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1660131]..... When you enter on the right you will see a fish bowl, tell the mamasan what number you want and whether you want 1 or 2 hours. ....The first and foremost you will get a legit Thai massage. .... I have never been hit on for extra by any of the girls [/QUOTE]Why is this place so hush-hush about the extras. After all they are letting you select your masseuse out of a fishbowl, I thought there would likely be an understanding that FS would naturally follow after the massage / body rub / body slide etc. That's how it happens in other shops which have a fishbowl.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1660294]Why is this place so hush-hush about the extras. After all they are letting you select your masseuse out of a fishbowl, I thought there would likely be an understanding that FS would naturally follow after the massage / body rub / body slide etc. That's how it happens in other shops which have a fishbowl.[/QUOTE]Not sure if the word hush hush is used properly, and let me correct myself about the fish bowl? When I first came to this place over 15 years ago the first thing I thought when I saw the first bowl was it was all extra but it isn't! In fact, nothing is even mentioned by the mamasan about extra? Not sure why it is just the way it is?
I just select like always although not extras one that appeals to me, tell the mamasan and the girl how I want the massage and pay extra for the Ben Gay for my lower back. They take you upstairs to a big room with A / see and a bunch of beds. Personally I never had been hit up or the girls I've selected ever even came closed to showing or talking about extra. The most I got from time to time is small conversation to find out if I had a lady? A few hint they like to go dancing and eating etc. I have been told by a few girls I know when I told them I use to use this place that it is common knowledge that there are extra but I myself never and use to go there for a legit massage only.
On the other hand my cousin who also use this place in the past the dirty dog has gotten plenty of 3rd floor action but said it is not worth the money he never got anything worth going back for seconds.
As I noted, when it comes to oil massage not all the girls in the fish bowl do oils, the mamasan will tell you which one and it is usually much older and I mean much older big bulldog types. Ladies are not in bikini but in Jeans and T-shirt tops.
There were some gems out before. I'm talking 2-3 years back. Now, not so much.
About 2 years ago I was out walking around one early evening. Strolled through the shops near the Royal Garden Plaza and onto beach road. While walking back from soi 13/3 I found 2 really nice and good looking ladies. Unfortunately, at that time I wasn't looking for a girl to bring back. I was just out and about. I got the girls numbers for later. I figured when I get horny I can call them and have them come over. The next few days I tried to reach them but no luck. Should have grabbed the tall one with the smoking body when I met her. Never got to enjoy her.
Last year same thing happened. I had a couple of days left on a month long trip. Went out to get my buddy some tank tops. Found a very pretty lady. She had a killer ASS (nice and round like a Brazilian butt) and a small waist. I was tapped out from the night before. I needed a few more hours to eat and recharge. I took the phone number and left. Then I thought about what happened 2 years ago when the other two nice ones got away. Not wanting to lose the chance with that hottt one, I stopped in a pharmacy and got some kamagra gel. Walked back to get her and she was gone. I called her just is case she went to the restroom or something. Her friend saw me on my phone and told me the girl just left. Fuck. She got away. She called me back about an hour later (yep, she went short time). Too fast of a turn around for me.
Lesson learned. When you do find that gem, better grab her.
I'm hungover today (but happy). I went out to eat with a buddy on Soi 7 last night. We were roommates when we worked in England 14 years ago. We ran into each other here in Pattaya at a sports bar about 2 months ago. Good food, beer, a shot, then a few bars and gogos, more bars. Before going home I wanted to eat at McDonalds. Made a stop at a small bar on Soi Diana and talked with a girl I had a month ago. Her friend interrupts us and starts talking barfine. Then her 'sister' sees me and wants me to barfine. Yeah right. It was already closing time at the bar. Just like the first time I took the girl. I told the girl if she wants to come with me I will be at McDonalds and she can meet me there. I went to eat. The girl showed up about 10-15 minutes later. Took her back and banged the heck out of her. Nice BJ and good sex. I was so damn drunk it took awhile to cum. Doggie with that butt was nice. The girl has an amazing ass and legs. Too bad she is a little lazy when it comes to her fucking me. I did most of the work. I hit it hard last night every which way. Then we slept. I woke up and hit it again a few hours later. She wanted to sleep but I was horny. Grabbed a condom, put some KY jelly for easy entry and went at it. She said jeb (hurt). Probably because she didn't want to go at it again. Who knows. I had her get on top. She laid on me and worked slowly at her pace. Soon after she was into it and got really wet. Turned her over to enjoy her body some more and finished up. Showered and slept again. She woke me up about 11 am saying she was hungry and she was already dressed. No problem. Gave her 1300 baht. Probably could have just given her 1100 (1000 for her and 100 for taxi). But I was happy with the service so its all good. I enjoyed her. And I will probably have her again one day soon. :)
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1660053]The Coconut Bar is all yours. I have been going to Pattaya for 35+ years, never saw much on Beach Road that I cared for.
But then again, I'm not a cheap charlie either; to each their own.[/QUOTE]35+ years, I'm impressed Mr. Not Cheap Charlie.
Hi guys!
I hate to get off track, but can anyone recommend a good venue for NYE? I will be spending the evening with one of my regulars and I'd like to do it up and show her a good time. Ideally a roof top bar with a nice view of the big fireworks show and maybe a good band.
I checked the Hilton Roof Top bar on the 34th floor, but they its pretty damn expensive. 4300 Baht per person. Though it does include free flowing drinks.
They also have a package for 3300 Baht that includes food and drink at the 16th floor bar, Drift. But I am not sure we would get a good view of the fireworks from there.
Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1660506]Hi guys!
I hate to get off track, but can anyone recommend a good venue for NYE? I will be spending the evening with one of my regulars and I'd like to do it up and show her a good time. Ideally a roof top bar with a nice view of the big fireworks show and maybe a good band.
I checked the Hilton Roof Top bar on the 34th floor, but they its pretty damn expensive. 4300 Baht per person. Though it does include free flowing drinks.
They also have a package for 3300 Baht that includes food and drink at the 16th floor bar, Drift. But I am not sure we would get a good view of the fireworks from there.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Above eleven is on Suk 11 on the roof of the Fraser Suites. Reasonable prices and great atmosphere. But it's in BKK. Might be worth the trip.
I have been here for the last 6 high seasons. Every year there are less punters than the year prior. This year the worse by far. Combined with less asian tours and big drop in Russian families this town is dead quit. I saw the Jomtien Airport bus arriving on Christmas Eve afternoon with maybe 25% of the seats occupied. This time of year you usually need to book in advance to get a seat.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1660506]Hi guys!
I hate to get off track, but can anyone recommend a good venue for NYE? I will be spending the evening with one of my regulars and I'd like to do it up and show her a good time. Ideally a roof top bar with a nice view of the big fireworks show and maybe a good band.
I checked the Hilton Roof Top bar on the 34th floor, but they its pretty damn expensive. 4300 Baht per person. Though it does include free flowing drinks.
They also have a package for 3300 Baht that includes food and drink at the 16th floor bar, Drift. But I am not sure we would get a good view of the fireworks from there.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]To be honest that is a pretty good price at the Hilton. The Holiday Inn is 4900. And many other venues offering is the same if not higher? Some are cheaper but that is because there is no food.
You can go Ala Carte but in the end you might end up shelling out even more? I would take the deal and if possible get a room at the Hilton and do it up like it was your Honeymoon? Red Car girl?
I would like to rent a scooter when I come in late Feb. Anyone have any recommendations of a reputable place and rates? I know about the scam where they try to make you pay for scratches that were already there. I was told to take photos w the person leasing the scooter of any damage. The thing I am worried about is someone stealing the scooter. Am I on the hook for the cost of the scooter? Do they provide helmets?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1660846]I have been here for the last 6 high seasons. Every year there are less punters than the year prior. This year the worse by far. Combined with less asian tours and big drop in Russian families this town is dead quit. I saw the Jomtien Airport bus arriving on Christmas Eve afternoon with maybe 25% of the seats occupied. This time of year you usually need to book in advance to get a seat.[/QUOTE]Seeing same here. One night you will see a bar hopping. A few days later you wonder where did all the horny men go.
Hard to believe but sex sellers seem to be a part time weekend thing now.
Wow,
Was talking to a friend about the rates of hotel rooms for NYE? He said compare to some the rooms at Hilton is a bargain? 13,000 baht, some of the other big and well know hotel are even higher? Maybe that includes everything?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1660987]To be honest that is a pretty good price at the Hilton. The Holiday Inn is 4900. And many other venues offering is the same if not higher? Some are cheaper but that is because there is no food.
You can go Ala Carte but in the end you might end up shelling out even more? I would take the deal and if possible get a room at the Hilton and do it up like it was your Honeymoon? Red Car girl?[/QUOTE]Haha!
Yes LBM. You have a good memory. It is my Red Car girl.
I think I may go for it. Though I will skip getting a room. I am staying just a few blocks away at City Garden condos.
Have you been to the bar on the 16th floor. It seems like the better deal as it include food. Is the view any good? Will we be able to see the fireworks?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1661065]Haha!
Yes LBM. You have a good memory. It is my Red Car girl.
I think I may go for it. Though I will skip getting a room. I am staying just a few blocks away at City Garden condos.
Have you been to the bar on the 16th floor. It seems like the better deal as it include food. Is the view any good? Will we be able to see the fireworks?[/QUOTE]I believe you should be able to see everything as long as it faces the Beach Side, it has been a while since I have gone up but I do believe the 16th floor is on that side but surely not as good as the top of the Hilton.
[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1660988]I would like to rent a scooter when I come in late Feb. Anyone have any recommendations of a reputable place and rates? I know about the scam where they try to make you pay for scratches that were already there. I was told to take photos w the person leasing the scooter of any damage. The thing I am worried about is someone stealing the scooter. Am I on the hook for the cost of the scooter? Do they provide helmets? Thanks![/QUOTE]There's no insurance provided. Several expats have told me this. If it's swiped or damaged, IS on you. New scooter runs about $900 USD+. Two helmets are provided, can only store one under the seat, second one will be left hanging on the mirror should you take it with you. Cheap helmet cost 100 baht. Don't worry, about them being swiped, instead worry about the crazy way they drive here. To begin with, they drive on the wrong side of the road. LOL. Possibility of a wreck is greater. (Also on you.) The 150 CC are more expensive than the 125 CC or 115 CC. The daily rate in the tourist trap area is 150 baht. They also want a deposit of 1000 or 2000 baht. All that being said, I rented a 125 CC for a month. :eek: Best of Luck.
[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1660846]I have been here for the last 6 high seasons. Every year there are less punters than the year prior. This year the worse by far. Combined with less asian tours and big drop in Russian families this town is dead quit. I saw the Jomtien Airport bus arriving on Christmas Eve afternoon with maybe 25% of the seats occupied. This time of year you usually need to book in advance to get a seat.[/QUOTE]Some expats, like me, hate the Beach Road street Fair which clutters up everything and makes you walk in the street dodging cars. Some short timers may be changing their vacation times to avoid it too. Before that crap, Pattaya was fun on New Years.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1661142]There's no insurance provided. Several expats have told me this. If it's swiped or damaged, IS on you. New scooter runs about $900 USD+. Two helmets are provided, can only store one under the seat, second one will be left hanging on the mirror should you take it with you. Cheap helmet cost 100 baht. Don't worry, about them being swiped, instead worry about the crazy way they drive here. To begin with, they drive on the wrong side of the road. LOL. Possibility of a wreck is greater. (Also on you.) The 150 CC are more expensive than the 125 CC or 115 CC. The daily rate in the tourist trap area is 150 baht. They also want a deposit of 1000 or 2000 baht. All that being said, I rented a 125 CC for a month. :eek: Best of Luck.[/QUOTE]I would stay away from the vendors on Beach Road, this is where you will find most of the scams, what I call nick and tick you to death unless you know the vendors. Rumors, some have the extra keys? There are a number of falang who own bars that rent out bikes? I think there are a number in the Soi Baukhao area like Soi Leng Kee. On Soi 6, not sure if he stills rents but as soon as you enter Soi 6 from 2nd Road the first or second shop on the left?
I would stay away from the any of the PCX, they are the most stolen right now in Pattaya? Here is what you should pay if the bike is stolen or totaled? Once you pick the bike ask the guy how much is the bike worth? Why? It depends on the model and the age of the bike? Most bikes new will run around 52,000 baht, the PCX, new is 80,000 baht.
I recently rented a bike for 2 months for my cousin, picked a bike not too new the vendor said worth about 25,000 baht? So expect if stolen etc. I recommend a dark color bike since it shows up all the nicks a lighter color is harder to inspect. Check the lower part of the bike? When in doubt use your cell phone to take photos this will give the vendor you are not a sucker?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1661421]I would stay away from the vendors on Beach Road, this is where you will find most of the scams, what I call nick and tick you to death unless you know the vendors. Rumors, some have the extra keys? There are a number of falang who own bars that rent out bikes? I think there are a number in the Soi Baukhao area like Soi Leng Kee. On Soi 6, not sure if he stills rents but as soon as you enter Soi 6 from 2nd Road the first or second shop on the left?
I would stay away from the any of the PCX, they are the most stolen right now in Pattaya? Here is what you should pay if the bike is stolen or totaled? Once you pick the bike ask the guy how much is the bike worth? Why? It depends on the model and the age of the bike? Most bikes new will run around 52,000 baht, the PCX, new is 80,000 baht.
I recently rented a bike for 2 months for my cousin, picked a bike not too new the vendor said worth about 25,000 baht? So expect if stolen etc. I recommend a dark color bike since it shows up all the nicks a lighter color is harder to inspect. Check the lower part of the bike? When in doubt use your cell phone to take photos this will give the vendor you are not a sucker?[/QUOTE]
LBM, I really appreciate your contributions to this forum but why do you always put a question mark at the end of a sentence that is not a question? It makes reading a bit confusing sometimes.
In your last post there's a question mark at the end of almost every sentence but there's only one genuine question in the whole post, LOL! (where you ask 'Why?')
[QUOTE=AmaBondSx;1660988]I would like to rent a scooter when I come in late Feb. Anyone have any recommendations of a reputable place and rates? I know about the scam where they try to make you pay for scratches that were already there. I was told to take photos w the person leasing the scooter of any damage. The thing I am worried about is someone stealing the scooter. Am I on the hook for the cost of the scooter? Do they provide helmets?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I rent them when I am in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1661478]LBM, I really appreciate your contributions to this forum but why do you always put a question mark at the end of a sentence that is not a question? It makes reading a bit confusing sometimes.
In your last post there's a question mark at the end of almost every sentence but there's only one genuine question in the whole post, LOL! (where you ask 'Why?')[/QUOTE]Simple the information I give is sometimes hearsay and not first hand and is for you to ask not me. Guess been here too long and it is embedded in me like a " up to you thing ".
The question mark might be old information. There is places that were there yesterday but not there today.
The question mark for the bikes cost etc. Are not exact prices just speculation since the vendors will themselves guess to the price of the bike if you ask them what the cost might be. Everything is pretty much a unknown to Thai in my experience so I put a ? for readers just out of habit never pay too much attention to it until now. Thanks for pointing it out.
I reduce the number for you to 1 ? Better? Oh 2 now.
Does anybody know when the despicable Beach Road market will be gone? Is there a schedule for that event?
I go to Pattaya mostly for the Beach Road, and will go elsewhere if the market is still on.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1661649]Does anybody know when the despicable Beach Road market will be gone? Is there a schedule for that event?
I go to Pattaya mostly for the Beach Road, and will go elsewhere if the market is still on.[/QUOTE]My gut feeling is the market will be there until after the new year.
Tonight, I saw many girls standing behind the booths, so there are some available.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1661654]My gut feeling is the market will be there until after the new year.
Tonight, I saw many girls standing behind the booths, so there are some available.[/QUOTE]So where do you guys think the girls go? I mean there are so many of them normally out there. They must have some alternative? Or do they just go back to Issan and other parts provincial?
Wheels up in lest than 24. I hit Patts on Monday!
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1661690]So where do you guys think the girls go? I mean there are so many of them normally out there. They must have some alternative? Or do they just go back to Issan and other parts provincial?
Wheels up in lest than 24. I hit Patts on Monday![/QUOTE]Plenty on W. S. Last night. Starting right in the front of the 7/11 next to the LightHouse Agogo. A half dozen standing outside. Another Bunch standing on 2nd Road across from the White Rose Hotel up from W. S. Another bunch in front of Big Mac, this was 10 pm.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1661690]So where do you guys think the girls go? I mean there are so many of them normally out there. They must have some alternative? Or do they just go back to Issan and other parts provincial?
Wheels up in lest than 24. I hit Patts on Monday![/QUOTE]No need to think. They go right across to the other side of the street, same as they do when it rains.
Does anyone know what's happened to Mr. Keak of VR Taxi Service? I've used him at least 25 times over the last 8 years, and I found his drivers to be quite reliable. I used him most recently at the end of August, but when I tried looking at his website today, it's gone. The site now says "The domain name has been expired".
Any recommendations for a reliable alternate?
Many Thanks.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1661690]So where do you guys think the girls go? I mean there are so many of them normally out there. They must have some alternative? Or do they just go back to Issan and other parts provincial?
Wheels up in lest than 24. I hit Patts on Monday![/QUOTE]There was a discussion about where the girls go very recently. Just read a couple of pages back.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1661757]No need to think. They go right across to the other side of the street, same as they do when it rains.[/QUOTE]Last year only a few of them did that. And the reason is simple: the pavement at the other side of the street is too narrow and too crowded, certainly during the fair.
I am on his website as I write this message. Came up with no problem.
I use his uncle Mr. T.
[QUOTE=David2;1661800]Does anyone know what's happened to Mr. Keak of VR Taxi Service? I've used him at least 25 times over the last 8 years, and I found his drivers to be quite reliable. I used him most recently at the end of August, but when I tried looking at his website today, it's gone. The site now says "The domain name has been expired".
Any recommendations for a reliable alternate?
Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=David2;1661800]Does anyone know what's happened to Mr. Keak of VR Taxi Service? I've used him at least 25 times over the last 8 years, and I found his drivers to be quite reliable. I used him most recently at the end of August, but when I tried looking at his website today, it's gone. The site now says "The domain name has been expired".
Any recommendations for a reliable alternate?
Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]I emailed him and they are picking me up tomorrow. He is still at the same email address.
Price is still 1 K baht.
[QUOTE=David2;1661800]Does anyone know what's happened to Mr. Keak of VR Taxi Service? I've used him at least 25 times over the last 8 years, and I found his drivers to be quite reliable. I used him most recently at the end of August, but when I tried looking at his website today, it's gone. The site now says "The domain name has been expired".
Any recommendations for a reliable alternate?
Many Thanks.[/QUOTE]David, VR taxi service is very much active. Posting this message from the cab on way to BKK now. I will PM you the name and no of the driver. Send him a text with you flight no, time and date a day or two before and he will pick you up.
Also the fare has now been increased to 1200 bht one way
12/23 Soi 6 bar, Sex in the City held a Soi 6 bar Crawl. Crawl started about 530 p, went past midnight. 23 bars hit. I lost the remaining group after the 21st bar. Goal was to have at least one drink in each bar. All the bar names were placed in a bag, and picked at random. Went to some bars never visited before. After 21 drinks, my memory is not as vivid. But 1300 baht gets you upstairs for an hour at most places. BTW, a couple of decent gals at Sex in the City. It's a well run, fun bar.
Started at My friend you bar, It's a Soi 6 BJ bar. Some older decent talent.
U twat aka toy bar: Sign above bar states U twat.
1 direction: not enough ladies, was a one shot bar.
King Kong: Thumbs up, lady immediately started to grope me as some as I sat down. She was very persuasive, very tempting. Lady, with other member of group, got his Johnson out. He almost got a BJ in the bar area.
Passion go-go: Only ago-go on Soi 6, older dancers, quickly drank our beers and got out of there.
Viking bar.
Pussy club.
Red point: I arrived after the group, outside the bar was empty of ladies, first time I've seen this. This bar is a favorite of mine and others in the group. Good selection of ladies. Group lost some members after this point.
Thai Rose.
Lucky love: Good selection of ladies, some in the group liked it.
Kiss Kool.
Mandarin: Lady Boy bar, some in the group checked it out.
SKY bar.
Mods bar: One in the group was accused of not paying his bar tap. Had to return to sort it out.
Ruby: Fun bar with fun ladies.
O bar.
Bulldog: A one shot bar, lineup was poor.
Kawaii: A one shot bar, lineup was poor.
Z bar.
Solo club.
Roxy: The group had dwindled to a few, I took off to get some food. This is where I lost the group. Not sure where they went.
I returned to the Soi the next day. Wanted to checkout King Kong out some more. However, spotted some nice ladies at Click Bar. "Clicked" with one chick, and had best time so far. She was soo good, took her back to the Hotel. Proceeded to fuk our brains out, got little sleep. She took good care of me when we awoke too. GFE all the way. :D
BTW: Click's upstairs rooms leave a lot to be desired. Upstairs shower is not working. There was mold growing in the shower area of the room I was in. Red Point and Sex in the City have better rooms.
Finally returned to King Kong bar two days later. I didn't see the lady from the crawl. But again, soon as I sat down, and before I had my beer, had a decent gal on me. She immediately started to grope, and undid my shorts. (What a fun bar.) She also started to go down on junior. (How can you say NO?) At this point she hasn't even asked for a lady drink. We relocated to the back couches, so she and I could be more comfortable. Got a decent BBBJCIM. 1000 Baht damage for that.
Member on a competing forum is recommending a couple Soi 13/1, 13/2 bars for daytime action. Will go check them out later.
Leaving Phil's at 7 am, arrive Patts thru NYE Monday pm. PM me if you care to have a beer, and make bad choices.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1661831]David, VR taxi service is very much active. Posting this message from the cab on way to BKK now. I will PM you the name and no of the driver. Send him a text with you flight no, time and date a day or two before and he will pick you up.
Also the fare has now been increased to 1200 bht one way[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure it's 1 K. Here is the email I got from him yesterday:
Dear Sir,
Confirm pick up you at the Suvarnabhumi Airport on time. When you Arrive at a Arrival Passenger Hall. Please look at your name on paper sign "at the GATE 3 Level 2 (Near Counter tour service) my dirver waiting for you there. Please call me if you can't find driver 081-3401365.
-Taxi from Suvarnabhumi Airport to Pattaya 1,000 Baht include toll. (on 29 Deccember 2014).
Regards, urlreplacement0})([URL]www.taxi-pattaya-city.com[/URL])([URL]www.bangkok-taxi.com[/URL])([URL]www.pattaya-taxi.com[/URL])([URL]www.huahintaxiport.com[/URL])([URL]www.kohchangtaxiport.com[/URL])([URL]www.golfpattayacity.com[/URL]).
Mr KeaK.
+66813401365 Line I'd. Titapat. Oor.
+66862520221 Line I'd. Keakpattaya.
Remark. (Danger). (You see my driver arleady please ask him from Mr KeaK Pattaya or not and get my driver call me and you speak with me or with my staff for SURELY, because some time have Guided ghost or Fraud COPY your name and pick up you before my driver to pattaya is same, But the price is not same sir Maybe more) or big problem for you.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1661831]
Also the fare has now been increased to 1200 bht one way[/QUOTE]The fare is the same, 1000 b each way.
[URL]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/URL]
Hi Everyone,
Being Indian it is always pleasure to book your self a week long vacation in Sin City Pattaya. So now I know I am in right place where I can get real help. This would be stupid question to ask where can I get fun time in Pattaya. But few questions and help needed from seniors on this group. Will be great to hear from the seniors and recently visited members as this is our trip after I think around 6 years now.
1) Best Soapy Massage parlour.
2) best Sandwich massage (threesome massage) best known by sandwich massage by Indians.
3) other then Thai chicks where can we find Russian and East Euro girls in Pattaya and there Damages.
4) Something new and unusual in Pattaya in recent time which we could explore.
5) some contacts of indi's people have experienced in this group and would like to recommend.
Would be thankful and will surely get some great reports after in come back. Will be there from 21st Jan. To 26th Jan.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1661827]I emailed him and they are picking me up tomorrow. He is still at the same email address.
Price is still 1 K baht.[/QUOTE]Yes, the website is back up as of this morning. It was down for 2 days, but I'm happy to see it's back up and working.
Many thanks to everyone for your help.
My best wishes to all for a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous, and Safe New Year.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1661831]David, VR taxi service is very much active. Posting this message from the cab on way to BKK now. I will PM you the name and no of the driver. Send him a text with you flight no, time and date a day or two before and he will pick you up.
Also the fare has now been increased to 1200 bht one way[/QUOTE]I believe that IllusionHeart is going from Pattaya to Bangkok City for 1200 THB. The fare from Pattaya to BKK airport remains at 1000 THB.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1661813]There was a discussion about where the girls go very recently. Just read a couple of pages back.
Last year only a few of them did that. And the reason is simple: the pavement at the other side of the street is too narrow and too crowded, certainly during the fair.[/QUOTE]They don't stand on the sidewalk. They sit on the steps of the various businesses on that side of the street.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1661873]The fare is the same, 1000 b each way.
[URL]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/URL][/QUOTE]I took taxi from soi 15 Sukhumvit to Pattaya soi 8 on 25th Dec and from pattaya to airport on return. Got charged 1200 both ways. I had called the agency no wherein a lady took my booking and told me the price. The driver on dropping me asked if he should pick me up on Sunday and I agreed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1662028]They don't stand on the sidewalk. They sit on the steps of the various businesses on that side of the street.[/QUOTE]That might not be such a bad thing; at least you see what they look like in the light.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1661649]Does anybody know when the despicable Beach Road market will be gone? Is there a schedule for that event?
I go to Pattaya mostly for the Beach Road, and will go elsewhere if the market is still on.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing they will keep it open until Sunday night (4th) So it should be clear on Jan 5, I hope. I'm staying in BKK until the 6th so the trash will be removed and things will be back to normal.
Has anyone besides me noticed that Internet cafe's are going the way of the dinosaurs? There used to be one on every corner and three on every block in Pattaya but now I can hardly find one anywhere. With the advent of tablets, smartphones and free Wi-fi everywhere the Internet cafe is becoming extinct. I only need one a few times a year to scan documents but now it looks like I'm going to have to buy an all in one printer for that purpose. It's a shame.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1662181]Has anyone besides me noticed that Internet cafe's are going the way of the dinosaurs? There used to be one on every corner and three on every block in Pattaya but now I can hardly find one anywhere. With the advent of tablets, smartphones and free Wi-fi everywhere the Internet cafe is becoming extinct. I only need one a few times a year to scan documents but now it looks like I'm going to have to buy an all in one printer for that purpose. It's a shame.[/QUOTE]No shame at all. I recently bought a new laser all in one at Office Mate on Sukhumvit for 4000 baht. I got tired of having to buy a different color 400 baht ink cartridge for my old printer every time I turned around.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1662205]No shame at all. I recently bought a new laser all in one at Office Mate on Sukhumvit for 4000 baht. I got tired of having to buy a different color 400 baht ink cartridge for my old printer every time I turned around.[/QUOTE]I have a ccolor laser printer and now it is cheaper to buy a new printer than a full set of color cartridges.
Of course the replacement cartridges are about double the capacity than the ones that came with the printer.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1661851] BTW, a couple of decent gals at Sex in the City. It's a well run, fun bar. [/QUOTE]Thought it was Sexy in the City? Good to hear that they have decent lookers, last time I passed by I wasn't too impressed.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1661851] U twat aka toy bar: Sign above bar states U twat.[/QUOTE]The owner is generally drunk but a very interesting fellow. The cashier is cute, if you are into spinners.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1661851] However, spotted some nice ladies at Click Bar. "Clicked" with one chick, and had best time so far. She was soo good, took her back to the Hotel. Proceeded to fuk our brains out, got little sleep. She took good care of me when we awoke too. .....[/QUOTE]Can't remember the name of the girl I had from here, but she was quite a good looker and very mild mannered somewhat exceptional for a soi 6 er. Glad to hear they have improved, because except for one (may be 2) the remaining girls available to deliver BJs look like grannies.
Thanks for the line up report, but the sense I get is that even in high season soi 6 doesn't seem to have improved considerably by getting in fresher and better stock of girls. If this is how they keep going this way most bars I believe may end up stocking more LBs than normal TGs.
Hi all,
What is your experience connected with the girls from BJ Bars in Pattaya?
Do you usually spend with them only some ST (one blowjob) or also LT in your hotel room (multiple blow jobs with one girl) ?
Thank you for your answers.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1662181]Has anyone besides me noticed that Internet cafe's are going the way of the dinosaurs? There used to be one on every corner and three on every block in Pattaya but now I can hardly find one anywhere. I's a shame.[/QUOTE]
They seem to be dwindling in the higher rent districts nearer the beach and Walking Street zones, but there are still a few along Central Pattaya Road and I think a few along South Pattaya Road and Third Road near South Pattaya Road. There's also one or two on Soi Yamoto and Soi Post Office. I agree it will be a shame if they ever do completely disappear (as is the case in most other countries), as who wants to use those nasty little smart phones or tablets - a full sized computer is far superior and more ergonomic.
[QUOTE=MeEnLu;1662266]Hi all,
What is your experience connected with the girls from BJ Bars in Pattaya?
Do you usually spend with them only some ST (one blowjob) or also LT in your hotel room (multiple blow jobs with one girl) ?
Thank you for your answers.[/QUOTE]You walk in and take a girl to the back, get sucked off, and leave.
[QUOTE=MeEnLu;1662266]Hi all,
What is your experience connected with the girls from BJ Bars in Pattaya?
Do you usually spend with them only some ST (one blowjob) or also LT in your hotel room (multiple blow jobs with one girl) ?
Thank you for your answers.[/QUOTE]Most people, including me will do one shot in the bar but BJ girls are available for BF. You you can take them back to your room and they will stay long time or ST if you want but the cost will vary depending on the venue and the girl but will surely be higher than doing business in the bars. Multiple BJs, you better discuss it with the girl as they're all different.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1662402]They seem to be dwindling in the higher rent districts nearer the beach and Walking Street zones, but there are still a few along Central Pattaya Road and I think a few along South Pattaya Road and Third Road near South Pattaya Road. There's also one or two on Soi Yamoto and Soi Post Office. I agree it will be a shame if they ever do completely disappear (as is the case in most other countries), as who wants to use those nasty little smart phones or tablets - a full sized computer is far superior and more ergonomic.[/QUOTE]I agree that smart phones and tablets are not ideal for surfing the net but (and maybe I'm stating the obvious here) did you consider to buy a small laptop? Much more convenient than internet cafés!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1662410]You walk in and take a girl to the back, get sucked off, and leave.[/QUOTE]Or simply order a coke / drink, ask the girl to draw down your shorts and blow you right there at the bar, pay the bar and leave. LOL.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1662640]Or simply order a coke / drink, ask the girl to draw down your shorts and blow you right there at the bar, pay the bar and leave. LOL.[/QUOTE]That has never worked for me. I'm a lover not a gunslinger!
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1662591]I agree that smart phones and tablets are not ideal for surfing the net but (and maybe I'm stating the obvious here) did you consider to buy a small laptop? Much more convenient than internet cafs![/QUOTE]Yes, but you can't scan, print and copy documents with them -- that's where the Internet cafe came in handy for me. Oh, well; no use in complaining over their extinction -- I bought an all in one multi-function printer today at [URL]Tuk.com[/URL]. Farewell, Internet cafe. It was nice while it lasted.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1662591]I agree that smart phones and tablets are not ideal for surfing the net but (and maybe I'm stating the obvious here) did you consider to buy a small laptop? Much more convenient than internet cafs![/QUOTE]
Sorry, I don't considering carrying around more objects to be 'convenient'. I usually travel with a small bag with just a few changes of clothes, some KY, various oils, and that's about it. And anyway laptops are expensive and not as pleasant to use as a desktop computer.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1662856]Sorry, I don't considering carrying around more objects to be 'convenient'. I usually travel with a small bag with just a few changes of clothes, some KY, various oils, and that's about it. And anyway laptops are expensive and not as pleasant to use as a desktop computer.[/QUOTE]To each his own of course. I'm using the internet quite a lot and it wouldn't be convenient for me at all anymore if I had to go to an internet cafe all the time, where they often have crappy seats, crappy equipment, slow connections and a noisy environment (music, other customers, game players).
But I'm curious: various oils? What kind of oils? Not cooking oils I suppose.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1662674]Yes, but you can't scan, print and copy documents with them -- that's where the Internet cafe came in handy for me. Oh, well; no use in complaining over their extinction -- I bought an all in one multi-function printer today at [URL]Tuk.com[/URL]. Farewell, Internet cafe. It was nice while it lasted.[/QUOTE]Actually you can scan and copy documents using smartphones. Plenty of apps out there that will turn your smartphone camera into a scanner. Some even save the scan as a PDF.
The only remaining deficit you have is printing while traveling. I travel a lot and so far have never had a problem with not having a document in paper form. I just keep the copy of the doc on my mobile. We should all consider going paperless but if you really must generate paper versions of documents, you can get a portable printer to fit in your suitcase / briefcase. The only one I know that is really portable is a Brother Pocketjet costing a bit over $500.
Greetings gents. Just a quick update. I will post more detailed FRs as my experience accumulates.
Been here since Monday. As ha been previously reported stalls have taken over BR. Some girls have moved across the street as Mr. E. reported. So there is still a sprinkling of girls to be found at various locations across the street-- they like to congregate by convenience stores or where there is a bit more space (like the steps at Central mall) . But you have to look pretty hard to find any gems IMHO.
FLs on WS are also out in good numbers. Some asking as much as 3 K LT. But I am sure this is negotiable. A couple of cute ones last night but did not feel chemistry so I decided to bail.
High season is in full effect and the city is filled with a various assortment of international douchebags. You will be hard pressed to find a larger collection of faux-hawks, bed heads, and tacky tattoos anywhere. It is taking a toll on the FL scene. I-bar is packed to the gills with dudes and girls aren't as friendly as before. I turned up empty handed both nights I tried it. Too many obnoxious Russian to even think about going into Mixx.
Hit LK metro and Destiny my first night after striking out at I-bar. Got very friendly with a little girl but she was asking 4 K LT and 1500 for BF!! SO I passed and went home alone.
Red car looked very good last night. Unfortunately I ran into my regular who I told that I was coming into town tonight (so we can spend NYE together). Busted!! But I managed to weasel out of it and we had a great night together. It's SO much fun getting to know each other again.
My lazy procrastinating ass took work with me I needed to get finished so I have been a bit too preoccupied with that to go full bore and hit the late hours vampire scene at the discos. Just sent all the work in an hour ago so I am liberated form here on out.
I will probably spend the next couple of days with her and then try and hit the scene hard a couple of days after NE, when hopefully the Douchebag International Convention will leave town.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
[B]December 25 (Day 3: Thursday) Merry Christmas[/B]
This was my first visit to pattaya hence was hoping for a lot. We reached at around 2. 30 pm thanks to the traffic getting out of Bangkok and while coming into pattaya through the central road. Paid driver 1200 baht and a good tip for the extra hour we made him wait in the Manhattan parking. He asked us whether we were going to need a cab back on Sunday to airport and gave us his no. He asked us to message / call him a day earlier. We checked into the Sunshine Hotel and Residence on Soi 8 in the heart of the action. This would be our base for the next 4 days. I could see some women leaving the hotel almost sleepy, must have been the LTs of earlier night I guessed, got me smiling. We got some food in the room, decent I must say and settled in.
We took a walk towards Soi 6 at 4 pm as it seemed to a place to find some girls during daytime. Walked across soi 7 onto central pattaya road. Most of the street bars were closed as we walked into the soi, not much crowd but there were some girls doing cat calls. New phenomenon for me, slightly confused where to look. Crowd seemed to be pretty average, kept walking and looking at either side but found nothing interesting till the street end of beach road. Smoked and turned back, wanted to have a second look. I walked slowly this time having a fair amount of visual at each passing bar, had few names picked up from one of Nattys post, tried to locate them while walking, did eventually but no girl to my liking so moved on from there. Guessed I would need my beer goggles to be able to spend time with the girls available there. An advise, Kindly do not venture into the parallel Soi 6/1 if LBs are not your interest. We accidently did to check if there were other bars and had few LBs surrounded us in no time as we were walking. They got hold of our balls in no time. We managed to get out of the situation amicably but it could have gone bad easily. We got back and took a nap.
Evening plan was to check out Walking Street first, had few shots of JD and walked towards beach road. Past 9 pm now and most of the street bars had sprung into action. Could see some decent girls in few bars. Surprisingly the cluster of bars on corner of Soi 8 were almost full due to Christmas celebrations all around, some good girls as well. My whisky goggles were now working perfectly. We decided to get baht bus but the entire street was jammed. Decided to walk as it didn't seem much of a distance to walking street. Good decision in retrospect as I also wanted to scan for SWs along beach road. Did see some on steps of shopping centres, few around Mc donalds but nothing to interest. Brach road was completely taken over by stalls and tourists. Not an inch of space vacant. We reached walking street. Had a brief look at the cluster of bars on right before the entrance and could see some decent girls. Thought will check out walking street first then come back if required. As we entered we were held up by a big crowd of Chinese tourists who were assembling at the entrance to start their tour. Made our way through and started the walk. I was quite sweaty by this time and needed to take a break for 5 minutes. We got into Blue bar, opposite the Russian Cabaret, settled down for a beer. This place indeed has the best sounding rock music on the entire street. Sound was indeed good. I wanted to take a walk of the entire street, register places and then take a call on where to enter. We listened to few songs and decided to move on as I intended to pick up a girl before choices started reducing. We walked the entire street till Mixx disco, registered all gogos and go-gos along the street. Also marked the discos which would be an option if required later on.
We walked back till the beginning of walking street and then decided to get into Simon, the first one while coming from walking street herein referred as Simon1 as I ended up in these bars almost all nights. My buddy had a favourite bar here which was the last bar to the right after the toilets. As we walked in all I could hear were hands waving and loud cat calls from stalls as we passed by. I was slightly shy, never in my life had so many girls look at me forget waving and inviting, was getting a kick out of this. I loved pattaya at this moment and was the best place in the world for me. So much that I didn't even scan the girls. Actually it was very difficult as with so many girls looking and calling at the same time made me nervous. As we walked in the cat calls thinned, some girls at few bars didn't even wave or call, I was surprised but continued till we reached end of the cluster and settled down in the last bar to the right. Mamasan came and greeted us & joked around with my buddy and said that "business was slow". My buddy said that her answer remains same for 365 days and we all three had a good laugh. I had a good look at the girls she had. I think I am too picky or fussy when it comes to choosing girls, didn't like even one of them, neither did my buddy. I had a good look around and found that crowd was more or less average and slightly heavy, couldn't see any slender gazelles. Thoughts in my mind, maybe we were late, maybe this is how the talent is here, had Bangkok raised my expectations. I had a good scan of almost 4/5 bars and scene was the same. Decided not to get into names as I just couldn't remember all. They had a small signage on the back or in some odd place.
I could see a lot of quantity but quality was seriously missing. I tried hard but just couldn't find anyone. We decided to move on to Simon 2 but as we were walking out the bars near the entrance seemed to have some good crowd. The one on the left was crowded so we sat at the one on the right, just before the exit. Free girls sprang from their seats and kept their phones aside. My buddy seemed to like someone so the usual chat started. I nursed my beer gazing around for potential. Sometime later he asked that he wanted to barfine her. Surprisingly she said no. I asked her that the issue was. Language was definitely a barrier but we were doing basic talks. She eventually said she was on her period. I was bewildered, why would a mamasan let a girl work on these days who would not be able to go out with a customer. They sure didn't want to miss the business during Christmas. We moved on to Simon 2, one after ladyboy bar patch. Same ritual of cat calls as soon as we entered. I saw a good looking slender girl playing with her phone. It must be 4th or 5th bar as we enter Simon 2 on the right, just after the entrance to the toilets. I walked up and sat down. Cat calls closed and some peace. Surprisingly the girl didn't even look at me but was busy on her phone. A different girl approached us. We ordered our drinks. When she was walking back with our drinks I took a good look at her and she surprisingly also meet my requirements, be cups and nice butt and sweet smile. Decided to stick around. Couldn't segregate on the dress though as everyone I looked around seemed to be wearing Red dresses. I started playing usual games with her, wooden blocks etc. Bought her a drink. Her name was Fon. In between me and buddy were chatting. He then explained to me which bars we were welcome in and which we weren't basis of the cat calls. Even after sitting at the bar there was no assurance that the girl would be ready to be barfined by us. I started chatting with Fon, her English was decent and she was indeed beautiful. I told her that I wanted to bar fine her. She asked me ST or LT. I said preferably LT taking my chances that this would be a complete waste of time and money if she turned out to be a star fish. She quoted 5000 baht for LT and 400 baht barfine. I was shocked. All posts from this forum and suggestions from pipelayer ran through my mind. I replied too much. She asked my how much I offer. I told her max 2000 baht including barfine. I asked her isn't it too much. She replied it was Christmas and I was speechless. She replied she would do ST for 3000 baht. We paused for few minutes and I nursed my beer in thought. It ran to my mind that If I turned to gogos now I would end up paying another minimum 4000 bahut including drinks for a ST and basis of my earlier night experience there was no assurance how much barfine would be at these gogos being Christmas. I ordered for another beer. I thought and offered her 4000 as final for LT. She agreed with a smile and I knew she had nailed me, will never forget that smile of hers. I regretted the decision in my mind. Thought of all the posts and advises from seniors of not ruining the market. But maybe I had become desperate and the whisky / beer googles were taking over, maybe I was paying brown man tax or extra money due to all the misbehavior and screw ups caused by me beloved countrymen. Paid the BF eventually. My buddy decided to take a leak.
She came out and sat beside me on the bar stool. General chat about each other, etc. I wanted to move out, get some food and then maybe get to my room. Waited for my buddy but he seemed to take forever to return. I decided to walk up to the toilet to check if he was alright, we did have alcohol but it hadn't crossed tipping levels yet. Surprisingly my buddy had settled at the bar to the right of the toilet, a bar apart from where I sat and was chatting up a lady, maybe she caught his attention on way out from the toilet. I settled the tab and we walked over to him and settled beside him. I started warming up to Fon. She also started to open up. Got ourselves drinks, she was having spy, wine cooler and me SML. She seemed to be very polished with mannerisms and body movements. She was from Isaan but had also travelled abroad. My buddy liked the girl he was talking with and could get her down to 3000 baht for LT. But then the mamasan struck and said BF was 1400 so his tally also came to 4400 baht. I just patted on his back wished him Merry Christmas and asked him to take a call or move on. I am sure the look on his face gave out that he was indeed in a different city and not the pattaya he had visited a year earlier. He decide to go ahead like me and settled the tab.
We stepped out and I felt famished wanted to get some food. I could now talk with Fon. We got some food in the restaurant besides the main walking street gate. Decided to head to disco. Fon took us to Insomnia. We wanted to walk up into I-Bar but she stopped and said that the girl with my buddy was 18 years old and won't be allowed in. Alarm bells rang in my mind whether she was underaged. Didn't want to get into that kind of trouble here. Fon then told me that she needed to be 19 to get into bar which is upstairs. We moved into insomnia post both girls I'd got checked by the bouncers. Place was packed to the hilt. We got in, must be around 3. 40 am. Managed to get a table at the end of the bar near the water, ordered drinks. Sometime later the girl because of whom I had stopped at Fon's bar joined us. Fon introduced her to us as her younger sister. What a surprise. We partied for some more time and were joining on and off by Fons friends. Fon was extremely energetic and was continuously dancing and making me sweat along as well. I was refilling myself with equal speed so as to not let the alcohol wear off. She told me that she visited Insomnia sometimes if she didn't find work at her bar in Simon2 during weekends. We eventually headed back to our hotel, it was almost 6 am. Fon took shower and then I went in. She had a good body, no sign of stretch marks, a nick on the thigh though caused due to a broken glass by an overenthusiastic part goer at the table next to hers a few months back at Insomnia. Sex was slow and good as I wanted, she had natural be cups and a nice round ass. BJ was decent. GFE sex the way I want and like it. She was open to all positions I desired except A level which I want in mood for. Fon is not a spinner but she's got good looks. She is 26 yr old and yes she did float my boat. I enjoyed her company very much.
[B]December 26 (Day 4: Friday)[/B]
I was awakened by my friend at 1 pm. His girl had left. I checked besides and Fon was still sleeping. I got up and my movements in the room and bathroom woke her up as well. She went in for a quick refresh and came out smelling of floral deo. I got turned on and we had sex again but this time it was quick but good. The sagamis (0. 02) pack of 6 I had picked in Singapore were indeed good and gave Fon a doubt earlier whether I had removed the condom when I turned her doggy. Though expensive the absence of latex smell does wonders to the sex with Sagamis. I saw single pack available at Boots shop at the airport on way out and would recommend to try one atleast, costs approx. 90 Baht a piece. We lied besides each other and chatted for some time. She didn't seem to be in a hurry to leave whereas my buddy had asked me to send her packing so that we could go out for lunch with a 30 minute deadline. Fon had been in Japan for a year and also travelled to Singapore for work. Guess this is why she was still carrying hangover of the prices should would have been able to command there. We exchanged nos and I wanted her to join me for lunch but she said she wanted to go home and get some more sleep and her house was another 30 minute commute. I let her go. She asked me whether I would come back to walking street tonight. I said maybe. She left on a bike taxi. We got some food on beach road came back and rested. It was impossible to walk on the beach road at this time of the day due to the heat.
I wanted to explore Soi LK metro and the bars around in the evening so we started walking in that direction. We must have been in the area at approx 8 pm. As we walked through Soi Dana I was scanning the bars. It was a repeat of last night wherein average talent available everywhere. All the good looking girls seem to be already in company of men. Not many good looking girls overall. We walked into Soi LK metro, gogos were almost empty and not many coyotes around. Music was playing loud everywhere though. We decided to get back and check the bars in Soi 7 and at the corner of Soi 8. Sat in few and had beers but same problem, dearth of good looking girls. Mostly mature talent. We definitely were not looking at the right places.
We decided to head back to walking street. Checked Beer garden during entry and place seemed almost empty with few people scattered across. Streets were relatively empty and our doubt was coming true that maybe Christmas night must have taken a toll on the ladies hence majority of them were missing in action. We walked into Simon1 and the bar on the left was relatively empty so sat down for a beer. A decent looking girl joined me, usual talks and it came down to when I told her that I wanted to bar fine her. She said LT 3000 and ST 2000 and BF 400. I said ok LT. She then asked me whether we were staying in the same room. I said no. She then went to her mamasan and got her. Mamasan told me that I would need to pay entire money upfront to which I rejected outright. She then went and talked to the girl, Nia seemed to be her name if I remember well. Fake name as usual as Fon had let me on her real name in the morning when we exchanged contacts. Not that it mattered to me. Coming back mamasan spoke to her and came back and told me that I would need to pay atleast 50% upfront. There was no way I was going to pay single baht. We finished the beer and walked towards Mixx. Lot of FL's around but nothing extraordinary, I wanted to check this option as well tonight. Though I wasn't planning for an ST for sure but was open to it. It was already 12 am. As we continued our walk I got a txt on my phone. It seems Fon had spotted me and wanted me to come to her bar. I was wondering how could have she seen me from her bar as her bar is almost second last from the sea front and there must be 5/6 bars in between from the street. All she could have seen must have been my back while walking amongst so many people. I txt her back saying later and continued on. The FL scene also didn't look too promising.
We had walked upto Mixx and back and were really bugged by the massage card holders. We then decided to head back to Simon 2 and explore bars there. We walked in and took a good look, Fon was waving to me from her bar and I waved her back saying later with my hands. My buddy spotted a girl and sat down. I headed to the toilet and then walked back out leaving him there to fix his girl. I walked upto walking street gate checking for some FLs. Some decent but none to be taken back to hotel. Most of them looked hardcore and I want in mood for any PSE tonight. I got seated myself in blue bar listening to some GNR and Metallica. My buddy joined me in some time coordinating through txt. The girl he had sat with would not be coming as her boyfriend was going to visit her bar shortly and she had planned night with him. We had few beers. I wanted to try sensation or mandarin or Baccara and was sure we would have definitely got a decent girl there. My buddy was not in the mood for a gogo. We then decided to go to Disco for FLs. We walked upto 808 but were denied entry as I was wearing shorts and Birkenstock, bouncer waved his torch towards my legs and said no. We moved onto Marine, they let us in but place was dead. Moved to Insomnia. Had to buy drinks as we didn't have any women along. Place had some crowd so we got in and found ourselves a table near the sea. Not much of talent here as well. Not a good night. Almost 4 am now so we decided to head back to hotel. I also wanted to take look at what would be available on beach road at this time. As we walked we could see cluster of women standing on the opposite side of beach front so we crossed road. We continued towards soi 8 and kept our eyes open for a potential ST if not LT. Not much happening, quantity was too low forget the quality. We went back to hotel. Saw few one-liners and bye txt from Fon had arrived on phone, seems she had given up on me. First day without any sex for me in LOS.
[B]December 27 (Day 5: Saturday)[/B]
Got up at 2 pm and went to Sailor Bar for breakfast, 2 minutes walk from hotel. Decent English breakfast for 65 baht with 2 Toast, 2 Ham strips, 1 strip of bacon, 1 pork sausage, 2 eggs either sunny side up or srambled or boiled, cup of coffee and small goblet of fresh orange juice. 3 different combinations depending on type of eggs wanted. It definitely dosent get any cheaper than this I thought. We additionally ordered bowl of mashed potatoes and fries. Amazingly cheap and good and breakfast and best part is that it is available till 3 pm. Went back and chatted up for some time in room.
We ventured out again at 4 pm. I wanted to check out a gentleman club so located and got ourselves to M club. Place had 5/6 guys and 4 girls including bar hostess. I thought maybe girls must be resting inside and might come out. We got our beers and 1 girl came and stood beside us. Two were busy with other gentleman. I asked her if there were other girls. She replied that some had gone out with customers and few had called in sick and she was the only one available. Houston we have a problem I said to myself. Finished out beer and walked out. Thought we might walkup to Devils Den and check if something is available.
We were greeted by David once inside Devils Den. He conducted the proceedings exceedingly well. We got cold towel and ordered beers. Another gentleman walked in who had booked a threesome. Another followed in. David explained to all of us how it worked. Only threesomes at the venue. If interests were for a single girl then girl would be sent to our hotel within 30 minutes of calling or booking online. He showed us the line which distinguished A level and Non A level girls. Then the told the single gentleman that we would get first right to choose girls as we had walked in earlier. He then called out all the girls and they lined up. Though we had browsed photos while walking here none seem to be interesting amongst the available girls. It seems place runs more on advanced bookings hence best girls were MIA. We passed up the opportunity to the gentleman in waiting and continued with our beer. He also looked disappointed with the talent on offer. He showed his phone to David and asked for the girls. Poor chap had been looking at a copy website of devils den started few years back by someone else. He left. Meanwhile the guy who had come in for threesomes was getting his pics clicked with the girls in various poses from David, seemed his first time for a threesome. Guys looking for Devils Den experience kindly look up for the Devils den Thailand site which is original. Devils den pattaya is a spoof website as per David.
We came back to Soi 7 and settled down for a beer. I liked one girl and wanted to engage with her but turned out to be LB. Disaster averted. Hopped onto few bars but couldn't find one to liking. We decided to hit walking street again. Took baht bus and reached there by 8 pm. Being last night in pattaya wanted to strike early. We went into simon 1 first and buddy got seated in bar. I continued to walk but couldn't see much and came back. He seemed to have started chatting with the girl. I had to get myself one. I walked on the walking street, few FLs around in clusters, spotted one standing near the electricity pole, looked fitting the physical bill from far, in green top and denim shorts so started to walk towards her. Another guy got to her first and there wasn't anything I could do. Didn't want to wait to see the outcome especially he walking away with her so carried on looking for another potential. I needed to take a leak so I walked into Simon 2 and went to the loo. When I came out I looked towards Fons bar and she was sitting at the counter just looking at me not waving or calling. I just don't know what happened and my feet just took me to her. She asked me how I was and whether I wanted a drink. I couldn't say no. She got me a SML, good she remembered. She asked me how my earlier night was and she waited for me to return. I told her I was out partying. She asked me if I took a girl to which I said no and I actually didn't even though I tried. A big smile returned on her face. Mamasan came to the table and started hitting on my shoulder slowly saying that her girl was so good and where was I last night. She said that Fon went straight home after work. I couldn't believe that shit even if I wanted to. I spend some time, got her a drink. She asked me what my plan was and where I was going. I said I don't know and there was some silence between us. I replied after some time that I liked her and wanted to be with her that night. She got happy and I asked her to get the BF tab I. E 400 bahut. Told her that Christmas was over and I was not going to pay her that stupid LT amount, she just grinned. Mamasan told me not to make her unhappy. Fon jumped to get her bag and came outside and sat with me. Meanwhile my buddy had returned to his favourite mamasan as the girl he was chatting to earlier refused to go LT and got himself another girl. We didn't see her on the first night, maybe new arrival.
I wanted to get some food but buddy wanted to listen to some rock music so we headed to Blue bar again and spend some time there. It was only 11 pm and we had lot of time on our hands today. Requested some Metallica, AC / DC and GNR songs to reminisce college days. We then had dinner at the open seafood restaurant displaying their catch. One key learning here was never let hungry thai girl order food. Had loads of food on the table then we could finish but we eventually managed to stuff ourselves. We walked up towards Mixx to digest some overeaten food. Sometime later we ended back in front of Insomnia. I wanted to go to I-bar this time so we walked up stairs. Place was happening and good girls, mostly with guys. We got ourselves to a table where Fon's friends were standing and they accommodated us. Four of them and four of us all cramped up on one table standing with not much space to move around. My buddy had a beer and decided to return to the hotel. I stayed back and enjoying the scene there. Saw some good girls with inviting looks near the small dance stages created in centre and standing near the toilets. Seem to happen more when you are already with a girl. Found some to my liking but already had Fon and it was my last night, nothing much to do about it but just browse for future encounters. Almost an hour later got a message that my buddy was returning back. I waited for him to come back to I-bar, he joined us in another 30 minutes. He had done a ST with the girl and she wanted to go home so he had let her go paying 500 baht. He had ended up paying 900 baht in total. Fon's friend moved on freeing up much needed space for us. In walks her sister again. Usual pleasantries and then she goes away scouting for her catch of the day. Was pleased to see her leave. We were enjoying the vibe and music of the place. Two girls joined us alongwith a guy, seemed aussie. They were also Fon's friend. My buddy got introduced to the one who was free and hooked on to her. We partied for some more time and then took the baht bus back to hotel. There was a bar open on Soi 8 from second road with thai music playing. Girls got tipsy and wanted to dance and my buddy wanted another beer so we got in for some time. We got back to hotel, freshened up. Session was better than first night with extended GFE. DFK, BBJ and Mix of all positions. Had some good talk with Fon and got to know more about her & family, etc. We got ourselves connected on line, FB, etc and went to bed at 7 am in each others arms.
[B]December 28 (Day 6: Sunday)[/B]
Got up at 11 am by a call from reception confirming checkout. Buddy got it extended to 1 pm. I got busy with Fon as she was back from bathroom and looked extremely inviting, couldn't pass up the opportunity as this was going to be last time in this trip. We made real good love, was really happy and satiated after this session. She went to take a shower meanwhile I packed up. Checked with the VR taxi guy and he was on way and would reach by 2. 30 pm as arranged. We checked out and took girls for breakfast to sailor bar. They preferred thai food and ordered for themselves. The waitress got upset when Fon couldn't finish her food completely and left some in the plate. Sailor Bar is indeed an amazing place for breakfast and I will repeat in future visits. Fon told me that she might travel to Bangkok if not Singapore in Jan / Feb. I told her that Singapore would be amazing as I absolutely love that city. Lets see what future holds. We paid up and walked out, finished our goodbye kisses, etc. VR Taxi guy came on time and dropped us off to Suvarnabhumi Airport. Paid him 1200 baht.
Few thoughts to mind from my first pattaya visit. Lot of quantity available in all bars but quality is definitely missing. Don't know if we were looking in the right places. We ended up at walking street all 3 nights and also in the simon cluster of bars eventually. Insomnia seems to be a good disco to pick up girls. Saw some quality girls here. Not much happening elsewhere for me or rather we haven't experienced it yet.
I have a trip scheduled to Manila and Angeles city in April. I don't want to give up on this city so easily basis my first trip and would definitely want to visit once before I decide on this city. I now like Bangkok post my second visit and love to spend time there. I wish there were some open cluster bars like Pattaya in Bangkok as it would have made traveling here for me completely avoidable.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1663212][B]December 28 (Day 6: Sunday)[/B]
Few thoughts to mind from my first pattaya visit. Lot of quantity available in all bars but quality is definitely missing. Don't know if we were looking in the right places. We ended up at walking street all 3 nights and also in the simon cluster of bars eventually. Insomnia seems to be a good disco to pick up girls. Saw some quality girls here. Not much happening elsewhere for me or rather we haven't experienced it yet..[/QUOTE]By quality I'm assuming you mean pretty? Pattaya is known for cheap. Cheap and quality are like oil and water-they don't mix.
Hello,
yesterday (New Year's Eve) was my last day in Pattaya: it will take me a while to post a full report since I'm now headed to the beaches of the Krabi area, but just wished to quickly share that it was my third time and once again the overall experience has been positive.
Ryo.
Visited soapies Rasputin and Honey 2. Both featured a good assortment of older looking ladies which I am not attracted to. Sabai had by far the best selection of mostly younger girls at 2 K and 2. 4 K. I had one wild session there and one not so good. The second one refused light fingering and any form of sucking me or pussy licking, so I quickly ended the session and left without complaining to management. It is too bad because she was an otherwise nice girl with a good body who unfortunately has chosen the wrong profession. This sometimes happens in P4 P so I just chalked it up as one of those experiences. I would repeat at Sabai. I stayed at the DiscoveryBeach Hotel which is in an excellent location right next to Soy 6 and 6-1. If you stay there be sure and ask for the newer tower which is closer to the ocean front and Beach Road. Previous reports were positive about Soy 6-1 but I could see nothing but lady boys roaming around. For a legitimate massage try Arisa on Soy 6-1. A good number of places on Soy 6-1 are actually back entrances for the places on Soy 6 which I toured a few times both day and night. The many rough & ready bar girls were not a bit to my liking. I go to bed early so never surveyed the streetwalkers on Beach Road nor visited the Walking Street. While not a disappointment I am highly unlikely to every return to Pattaya because overall it is not my scene since I far prefer spending my P4 P money at soapies. Excellent Italian food at Fire&Stone Pizzaria.
[QUOTE=Steve7777;1663276]By quality I'm assuming you mean pretty? Pattaya is known for cheap. Cheap and quality are like oil and water-they don't mix.[/QUOTE]Yup steve I meant pretty, with beer googles on this place would rock but that's not how I like unfortunately. For me it wasn't cheap either as first night I paid 4400 baht LT and last night 3000 baht LT but got a girl as per my taste.
[QUOTE=RalphKramden;1663355]A good number of places on Soy 6-1 are actually back entrances for the places on Soy 6 which I toured a few times both day and night. The many rough & ready bar girls were not a bit to my liking.[/QUOTE]Soy = sauce.
Soi = street.
Rough & ready bar girls is quite an appropriate description!
[QUOTE=RalphKramden;1663355]I go to bed early so never surveyed the streetwalkers on Beach Road nor visited the Walking Street. While not a disappointment I am highly unlikely to every return to Pattaya because overall it is not my scene since I far prefer spending my P4 P money at soapies.[/QUOTE]Agreed that Pattaya has a weaker soapy / oily scene when compared to Bangkok. For me the strengths are:
The laid back beach vibe.
Less expensive [I]everything[/I].
The Walking Street experience.
FL hunting on beach road.
LK Metro and Devils Den.
What happened to all those who say Pattaya is full of pretty girls. Hahahaha. It just isn't so.
Nothing wrong of course. But puhLEAZE!
Dear Colleagues!
Good news! The Coconut Bar is back in business. The stalls are gone and the girls are back at work.
My regular wanted to go out dancing tonight and I was way too pooped for another long night after NYE so a window of opportunity opened up after we parted after dinner for me to check out BR.
I as there form 9-10 PM. Numbers are at about 50%. Mostly trannies and grannies. I did the walk form Mike's to WS and saw only a few I would do.
But I did score a real gem. Pammy, 25. Cute face and curvy body. Very tight and firm ass, thighs, and boobs. Not quite GFE, but dammed close. DFK and enthusiastic rider in all positions. Only downside was that she would only do a CBJ, claiming she just had dental work done and was afraid of infection.
Total damage 1 K for ST (about an hour and some change. No rush). I considered extending LT but this was my 4th sex session in the last 18 hrs. I need a good night's sleep to recharge.
But don't be surprised if I am the first in line for a Soapy tomorrow. LOL.
I will give the FL scene a try again tomorrow. Hopefully the return of BR is a sign that Pattaya is getting back to its good old self.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle-V.
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1663490]Yup steve I meant pretty, with beer googles on this place would rock but that's not how I like unfortunately. For me it wasn't cheap either as first night I paid 4400 baht LT and last night 3000 baht LT but got a girl as per my taste.[/QUOTE]IllusionHeart,
I really enjoyed your extensive and well written reports, both in the Bangkok thread and this thread. They often brought a smile to my face as it brings back memories of what a newbie has to go through.
Yes you paid too much and IMO it was due to a combination of factors: you're a newbie, it was Christmas time and the beer bars near the entrance of Walking Street are a tourist trap.
But the girl was OK and you had a good time and that is what matters in the end so what the hell.
Don't worry, we've all gone through that stage and we've all learned from it. After a couple of visits to Pattaya you'll get to know the drill. You've only scratched the surface a little bit this time.
"Requested some Metallica, AC / DC and GNR songs to reminisce college days. ".
Great reports Illusion Heart.
What is the exact name of this bar and the location?
I'm in LOS in three weeks and this bar sounds like a place I'd like to have a few beers in whilst rocking and gathering my thoughts.
BTW what is the average price of a beer in BHT at the moment?
[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1663198]....Sometime later the girl because of whom I had stopped at Fon's bar joined us......[/QUOTE]Excellent reports IllusionHeart, I have only now gotten around to reading them all. BTW, this girl along with Fon could just be her 'sister' in the way Thai's mean it and not necessarily related by birth.
The business about paying upfront is all bullshit, it is the general distrust of the brown man, and also I am glad you stuck to your guns and did not pay anything upfront. The girl could very well have been a runner.
It is indeed strange to hear that girls need to be 19 to enter discos, will need to be careful. The sense of Pattaya I have gotten after reading your reports is that it is not worthwhile to visit during high season, so in a way I am happy that I never planned any of my trips in high season (perhaps Jan end will be the only exception).
After my first trip to Pattaya which was, like you, a very short one, I decided that in the future and to properly see all aspects of this town, 1 week minimum is required. I am sure you will have much better luck on future trips. Cheers and thanks for the reports.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1663842]It is indeed strange to hear that girls need to be 19 to enter discos,[/QUOTE]Actually Thais have to be 20 in order to enter a disco. Foreigners have to be 18.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1663753]IllusionHeart,
I really enjoyed your extensive and well written reports, both in the Bangkok thread and this thread. They often brought a smile to my face as it brings back memories of what a newbie has to go through.
Yes you paid too much and IMO it was due to a combination of factors: you're a newbie, it was Christmas time and the beer bars near the entrance of Walking Street are a tourist trap.
But the girl was OK and you had a good time and that is what matters in the end so what the hell.
Don't worry, we've all gone through that stage and we've all learned from it. After a couple of visits to Pattaya you'll get to know the drill. You've only scratched the surface a little bit this time.[/QUOTE]
Mogwai, thanks to you or I was headed to HCMC and couldn't wonder how it would have ended. I remember your honest advise on PM. Thanks once again.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;1663813]"Requested some Metallica, AC / DC and GNR songs to reminisce college days. ".
Great reports Illusion Heart.
What is the exact name of this bar and the location?
I'm in LOS in three weeks and this bar sounds like a place I'd like to have a few beers in whilst rocking and gathering my thoughts.
BTW what is the average price of a beer in BHT at the moment?[/QUOTE]
Mate the bar name is Blue Bar, it is right in front of a Russian joint. Once you enter walking street this is the first place on your left where you hear good rock music and the sound will definitely pull you in if you love rock. Its after Mandarin if I remem well. I had SML (San Miguel Lite, thanks to Nattys post that I wanted to drink this beer and I just love it now) during entire trip in BKK and PYX and it was 120 baht a pint.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1663842]Excellent reports IllusionHeart, I have only now gotten around to reading them all. BTW, this girl along with Fon could just be her 'sister' in the way Thai's mean it and not necessarily related by birth.
The business about paying upfront is all bullshit, it is the general distrust of the brown man, and also I am glad you stuck to your guns and did not pay anything upfront. The girl could very well have been a runner.
It is indeed strange to hear that girls need to be 19 to enter discos, will need to be careful. The sense of Pattaya I have gotten after reading your reports is that it is not worthwhile to visit during high season, so in a way I am happy that I never planned any of my trips in high season (perhaps Jan end will be the only exception).
After my first trip to Pattaya which was, like you, a very short one, I decided that in the future and to properly see all aspects of this town, 1 week minimum is required. I am sure you will have much better luck on future trips. Cheers and thanks for the reports.[/QUOTE]
Action, Thanks to you first for having the patience to reply to all my PMs. Prevention better than cure. DO take care about the girls age when with you. This is one thing you don't wanna mess here. That girl was indeed Fon's little sister, shes mostly into Asian men ..don't know why, I had Fon so didn't bother finding out.
I am going back to pattaya in Feb, wanna join ?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1663888]Actually Thais have to be 20 in order to enter a disco. Foreigners have to be 18.[/QUOTE]
Mr E, I went with what the Fon told me hence you might be right.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya;1663535]Total damage 1 K for ST[/QUOTE]
How was that price arrived at or agreed upon? I find that many people seem to be paying 1k as the next step up from the old price, which was (and remains, for some of us, particularly in the off season) 500 baht, basically because 'one thousand' is the first bid out of most of the younger girl's mouths nowadays. I've only your pic to go by, but from that pic I'd guess your girl would have easily gone for 700 or so. Anyway that's what I've paid for some of the younger, cuter girls on the beach. Point being, for everyone's future reference, 1,000 is [u]not[/u] the new norm, though I'll admit if its ever so it would be during the unpleasant few weeks of high season.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1663938]How was that price arrived at or agreed upon? I find that many people seem to be paying 1k as the next step up from the old price, which was (and remains, for some of us, particularly in the off season) 500 baht, basically because 'one thousand' is the first bid out of most of the younger girl's mouths nowadays. I've only your pic to go by, but from that pic I'd guess your girl would have easily gone for 700 or so. Anyway that's what I've paid for some of the younger, cuter girls on the beach. Point being, for everyone's future reference, 1,000 is [u]not[/u] the new norm, though I'll admit if its ever so it would be during the unpleasant few weeks of high season.[/QUOTE]I too think he overpaid.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1663938]How was that price arrived at or agreed upon? I find that many people seem to be paying 1k as the next step up from the old price, which was (and remains, for some of us, particularly in the off season) 500 baht, basically because 'one thousand' is the first bid out of most of the younger girl's mouths nowadays. I've only your pic to go by, but from that pic I'd guess your girl would have easily gone for 700 or so. Anyway that's what I've paid for some of the younger, cuter girls on the beach. Point being, for everyone's future reference, 1,000 is [u]not[/u] the new norm, though I'll admit if its ever so it would be during the unpleasant few weeks of high season.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure you can negotiate a FL from 1 K to 700 bahts, if you are a good negotiator or when things are slow. But, why haggle over 300 bahts? That's about $10 and you may have a lousy session if the girl thinks you're being cheap. I was there early this year and I was able to pick an FL from beach road. She was relatively older and asked for only 500 bahts. She turned out to be relatively good in the sack. I never negotiate with FLs. If I don't like the price, I walk. At the end, it all evens out.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1664121]I am pretty sure you can negotiate a FL from 1 K to 700 bahts, if you are a good negotiator or when things are slow. But, why haggle over 300 bahts?[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true 2 week millionaire. If you don't haggle over 300 baht 10 times that is 3000 baht. Most people who live in Pattaya aren't trying to give money away like that, when they know they can get the girl for less.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1664127]Spoken like a true 2 week millionaire. If you don't haggle over 300 baht 10 times that is 3000 baht. Most people who live in Pattaya aren't trying to give money away like that, when they know they can get the girl for less.[/QUOTE]Here, Here.
Johnie.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1664121]I am pretty sure you can negotiate a FL from 1 K to 700 bahts, if you are a good negotiator or when things are slow. But, why haggle over 300 bahts? That's about $10 and you may have a lousy session if the girl thinks you're being cheap. I was there early this year and I was able to pick an FL from beach road. She was relatively older and asked for only 500 bahts. She turned out to be relatively good in the sack. I never negotiate with FLs. If I don't like the price, I walk. At the end, it all evens out.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. In fact, if a good one says 700, I may say how about 1000? Sorry, cheap guys. I'm not a 2 week millionaire, either.
I was down on Walking Street, New Year Eve, usually I take my bike regardless of the heavy traffic but noticed and got reports on the Darkside there might be road checks so in the end took a motorbike taxi. Wanted to get a bit to eat at the Beergarden but no luck not a seat to be found. In the end, just opt for the first food place into W. S. On the right. Consider it a greasy spoon place.
W. S. Was packed I started off at Sensation to say Happy New to a old friend with a few drinks but even with the high BF she was gone already. Next went to the Star also to see a old friend she was just leaving with customer so I save a few baht not buying drinks here. Aside from the girl the Mamasan (TOM) really aggressive when it comes to tipping for nothing? So, next Happy G. G. Double BF at 1600 for LT, and girls asking 5-6000 baht flying off the shelf. After one drink, I was headed to my final stop Bacarra, but before going in I decided to stand outside end of walkway for Happy. There is a new bar Crazy House open right at the entrance good place to order a drink and just watch. W. S. Was wall to wall people. You can spot lots of FL walking back and forth, many right across from me at the Roo Bar.
After about a half hour I went into Bacarra, I had already made arrangements to meet my regular there at a certain time. Really surprise to actually see not that busy because the majority of girls had already been BF, majority for LT, at 1600 BF and 5-6000 for the top girls and I can say they were not all being BF by Asians. Many of the girls are locked in during this two week period no days off and the not so popular girls are left to deal with the leftovers. I had already made my plans and the few girls I normally buy drinks for had not been BF, and as expected, cough up the 1600 BF and slipped it to me to BF them so they could come allow to a place that is normally venture by Thais that have a live Thai band and good food. So when leaving I had a my regular and a bunch of her friends I was the big spender the whale? We all got into a songthaw on 2nd road and ended to North Pattaya towards Hollywood.
Happy New year fellas!
[QUOTE=Opebo;1663938]How was that price arrived at or agreed upon? I find that many people seem to be paying 1k as the next step up from the old price, which was (and remains, for some of us, particularly in the off season) 500 baht, basically because 'one thousand' is the first bid out of most of the younger girl's mouths nowadays. I've only your pic to go by, but from that pic I'd guess your girl would have easily gone for 700 or so. Anyway that's what I've paid for some of the younger, cuter girls on the beach. Point being, for everyone's future reference, 1,000 is [u]not[/u] the new norm, though I'll admit if its ever so it would be during the unpleasant few weeks of high season.[/QUOTE]I don't want to get into this debate. We've gone over it a million times in this form.
But just for info purposes she wanted 1. 5 K initially and I countered on 700. We met halfway at 1 K.
Considering that there were maybe 3 girls on all of BR I would do and that she was, IMHO, the best one I thought this was more than fair.
Scored another one last night for 700. Jeab, 27. Looked good in her dress, with nice curve and rack. But a little on the saggy side when I removed the dress. She was probably a stunner before she had her kid a few years ago.
Still, she was pretty damn wild in bed. Wanted her ass slept hard and liked to get pounded. She liked it kind of rough! CIM. She opened up wide for me to jerk it in her moth. Porno style!
But no DFK, only LFK, (I think there is something wrong with her tooth. Jaeb avoided smiling even when I made her laugh. What is it with these BR girls and dental issues).
So not sure I would take her again. But I do have the digits in case of an emergency. LOL.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;1664121]why haggle over 300 bahts? That's about $10 and you may have a lousy session if the girl thinks you're being cheap.[/QUOTE]One good reason to save those 300 baht is the ability to give the 100-500 tip upon good service. Thus encouraging good behavior and positive attitude by everyone.
As long as you're not pushing under the going rate (which is 500-700 baht for BR), you won't have a lousy session. Of course, some girls give lousy service anyway, regardless of what you pay them. In fact, if she pushes too hard for more than the going rate, that's the prime indicator she'll be lousy (all focused on maximizing revenue, not just being relaxed / fun / compliant for the standard fee plus a possible tip).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1664228]One good reason to save those 300 baht is the ability to give the 100-500 tip upon good service. Thus encouraging good behavior and positive attitude by everyone.
As long as you're not pushing under the going rate (which is 500-700 baht for BR), you won't have a lousy session. Of course, some girls give lousy service anyway, regardless of what you pay them. In fact, if she pushes too hard for more than the going rate, that's the prime indicator she'll be lousy (all focused on maximizing revenue, not just being relaxed / fun / compliant for the standard fee plus a possible tip).[/QUOTE]How does she know you're going to tip? Give it up front and you bought good service. 1500 should buy a real good time on Beach Road.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1664228]One good reason to save those 300 baht is the ability to give the 100-500 tip upon good service. Thus encouraging good behavior and positive attitude by everyone.[/QUOTE]Tipping only works for repeat customers. Unless everyone tips for good service (which is probably not the case), the girls will not take a "tip" into account when providing their service. One of the forum members here once said "I'll tip you, when you can put a smile on my face". I think that is actually a good strategy: now the girl knows she can get extra money for good service.
That being said, I do give most of the girls a tip, unless her service was really atrocious. But then again, I'm such a soft egg and I do it for karmic reasons.
Sorry guys this is WAY off topic.
But can anyone recommend a print shop in town that could print up some business cards for me, and so it with a quick turn around. Say in 2 days?
You would be saving my life. I forgot to pack mine and have a business trip in Singapore right after I'm done with my holiday here.
Thanks again in advance!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1664246]Tipping only works for repeat customers. Unless everyone tips for good service (which is probably not the case), the girls will not take a "tip" into account when providing their service. [/QUOTE]Actually, human psychology is such that tipping / bonuses (above the base salary) work best if they're variable and unpredictable, only somewhat correlated to work performed. This applies to creative work, where people can take some pride in being good (which hooking is at some level), not to precisely measurable soulless stuff like making identical items on a production line.
So, for tips to work, it's enough that a fair proportion of customers tip, not that they all do. In fact, if all people tipped consistent amounts, it would become an expectation and fail to have a strong effect. On the other hand, if almost nobody tips (or "tips" are standard upsells, pay X for BBBJ, pay why for me to be nice), it's just an odd curiosity and doesn't work either.
There's a fair amount of academic research on this topic (intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation, effect of bonuses), although obviously, not much directly related to prostitution.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1664246]"I'll tip you, when you can put a smile on my face". I think that is actually a good strategy: now the girl knows she can get extra money for good service.[/QUOTE]Tit-for-tat approach may improve compliance a bit, but does not truly motivate or change the attitude. An unspecified "tip" for unspecified "good service", is not going to change much. Usually, when I tried that approach it only resulted in a higher likelihood of an argument when payment is due. If you dangle the tip ahead of time, they'll virtually always feel they deserved it, and that it ought to be higher than what it is.
The attitude is key, I'd much rather be with a girl who is generally fun, but may not do much of a BBBJ than with a grumpy one who'd obviously rather be elsewhere, but formally / minimally complies.
In my experience, unless you're a frequent customer, any provider is generally going to do her usual thing, determined by her general environment / personality / chemistry between you two. Stuff you talk about beforehand, or paying above the going rate, is rarely going to have much of an effect.
We're lucky in the Farang-oriented market in Thailand that people tip vastly varying amounts. In some markets (for instance, PRC hookers elsewhere in the region), nobody tips except in the form of extorted more-or-less standard upsells, and service is generally poor.
Personally, I only tip when a girl goes above and beyond the requirements because I feel it's decent that I reciprocate and go above and beyond as well. Not as an incentive for good service, since, in my experience, that does not work in individual cases (although people tipping does have an effect in aggregate within the entire market segment).
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1664363]Sorry guys this is WAY off topic.
But can anyone recommend a print shop in town that could print up some business cards for me, and so it with a quick turn around. Say in 2 days?
You would be saving my life. I forgot to pack mine and have a business trip in Singapore right after I'm done with my holiday here.
Thanks again in advance![/QUOTE]You lucky got Internet here in the village. Long drive.
Not too late? I've use these three in the past. Sorry do not have their business cards with me. Not sure where you are staying?
If you are at Soi Baukhao, right at Soi Diana corner there is a 7/11 at the corner of Soi Leng Kee. Walk past the 7/11 down Soi Baukhao there is a Kodak shop, they do some printing of Business cards.
There is another on 3rd Road Soi 13, if you are at Soi Baukhao the Tony bar and gym across from them is a Soi. There is a 7/11 on the corner. Go down that long Soi it leads to 3rd Road, at the end make a left, walk down a little just before Soi 13 is a small shop on left that does printing.
On Pattaya Klang, the Soi where Big c extra is located, at the corner of 3rd Road on the corner is a shop for Hormone Treatment, start to walk up toward Big c, a few doors up is another print shop. If you walk past the large green massage building you have already passed it.
Being Sunday, I believe the only one that might be open is the Kodak. All three not sure if they can meet your deadline. The Kodak might be your best bet since they deal with falangs more due to the area. The other two is much more Thai and might charge you higher than normal?
Good luck, not taking AirAsia?
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1664363]Sorry guys this is WAY off topic.
But can anyone recommend a print shop in town that could print up some business cards for me, and so it with a quick turn around. Say in 2 days?
You would be saving my life. I forgot to pack mine and have a business trip in Singapore right after I'm done with my holiday here.
Thanks again in advance![/QUOTE]There is a print shop on Soi Buakhao just south of the junction with Soi Lengkee.
I am sure they can help you.
[QUOTE=Judasville;1664721]There is a print shop on Soi Buakhao just south of the junction with Soi Lengkee.
I am sure they can help you.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. Yes I met up with the Kodak guy and he is setting it up for me. Reasonable price too.
Slow night tonight with my regular. But will be out and about tomorrow.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
I have a couple of questions (of course).
First, thanks for all the info I have found reading through the Pattaya forum. I only had time to read back about 50 pages to the end of September. I have been visiting Pattaya and SE Asia since late in 2001. But my last visit to Pattaya was a weekend stop in the summer of 2012.
So there have been some big changes and a lot of other things have remained pretty much the same. Here is what I think I learned from your posts. Please correct me where I am mistaken.
1. Prices have shot through the roof! I bar-fined 2 average looking ladies for 1500 Baht each for LT. I took them from Silver Star GoGo on Soi 8 and they were a lot of fun. That was the 2012 visit. Now LT from the GoGos is $4000 B. Ouch! I hope that is just on Walking Street.
2. There is a whole new class of venues for me to explore. At least they are new to me, for example the so-called Gentleman's Clubs. From the posts I have read they don't sound to be much different than the establishments on Soi 6 except that they are more scattered and more difficult to get to. Also, the posts regarding these venues indicate they can be quite sleazy so I have no option but to visit them. I just have to figure out how to get to them.
3. I will probably explore both Devils Den and the Dream Teen venues. Again, new to me. A little pricey, but this will be my last "vacation" to the LOS.
4. Action on Soi Bukao, Soi Honey and LK Metro. It has been a while, I just don't remember that much going on or if I even explored these areas in the past. I will now! Thanks to you guys! I have maps and descriptions of many places of interest to me due to your reports.
5. Sensations. I read a lot of posts but I am unclear about what this venue is all about. Are you discussing freelancers in a gogo or is it a disco with Mamasans? Where is this establishment on Walking Street?
6. Insomnia, Mixx, etc. For freelancers. Should I even bother? I am 63 years old. I'm not grotesque, I am not over weight, but I am realistic. Forget the dance floor. I just want to find a cutie for ST / LT.
7. Beach Road Street Walkers. So the price is right. I have walked the road many, many times. Almost all of the girls were not acceptable to me. That is just my opinion and things on Beach Road may have changed. I like walking so maybe I will find that diamond on BR.
8. The Dark Side. This set of venues may have to wait until my move this coming Fall.
9. Pattaya is an adventure and things have truly changed.
So this visit has a dual purpose. I think my list of "learned things" above indicates my first purpose fairly clearly. To maximize my apparent objective I will need to procure one of the generic Cialis (Tadalafil) products. Unlike the barfines and ST / LT tips; the prices for these ED pharmaceuticals have plummeted from the original brand. I could walk from pharmacy to pharmacy asking if they have the product. But, I would like my first day spending more of my time looking for my first cutie than walking in and out of pharmacies. I will be staying on Soi 2. If anyone can recommend a specific pharmacy with a name and location near or not so near where I am staying I would seriously appreciate the advice.
My second purpose for this visit concerns a much more important objective for me and it is the primary reason for my upcoming visit. I will retire on April 30th. I need to research living arrangements in Pattaya / Jontiem. I am looking to spend somewhere in the range of 10,000 Baht to 17,000 Baht per month. My long term visits will start in the fall after I obtain a retirement visa.
I have done some limited research on the web. From what I have seen, it appears that I can find something quite acceptable in that price range for either a Studio or a 1 bedroom condo. I tried to find a forum on ISG that dealt with this issue and I was unsuccessful. If there is a better place for this query, please tell me.
Otherwise, any suggestions concerning how to go about my research both here in San Francisco and in Pattaya will be very much appreciated.
I arrive in Pattaya on Saturday, January 10th. If any ISG expat would care to hook up and share their knowledge re: living in Pattaya, the drinks are all on me. Just send me a PM.
I'm also up for a bar hop if anyone is interested. Soi 6, Genleman's Clubs, The Dark Side or. Of course, we would need an experienced guide and he should be treated appropriately. PMs are welcome.
Well again, I seriously want to thank you all for all of the informative posts. And of course, I wish you all a great and happy New Year.
Nuevo.
[QUOTE=Nuevo;1665104]I have a couple of questions (of course).
My second purpose for this visit concerns a much more important objective for me and it is the primary reason for my upcoming visit. I will retire on April 30th. I need to research living arrangements in Pattaya / Jontiem. I am looking to spend somewhere in the range of 10,000 Baht to 17,000 Baht per month. My long term visits will start in the fall after I obtain a retirement visa.
I have done some limited research on the web. From what I have seen, it appears that I can find something quite acceptable in that price range for either a Studio or a 1 bedroom condo. I tried to find a forum on ISG that dealt with this issue and I was unsuccessful. If there is a better place for this query, please tell me.
Otherwise, any suggestions concerning how to go about my research both here in San Francisco and in Pattaya will be very much appreciated.
Nuevo.[/QUOTE]You have to be aware of the scams in Pattaya and other areas, there are some notorious foreigners running scams and even pretending to be lawyers and other helpful experts.
Check out andrew-drummond for some leads.
Teltel.
[QUOTE=Nuevo;1665104]I will retire on April 30th. I need to research living arrangements in Pattaya / Jontiem. I am looking to spend somewhere in the range of 10,000 Baht to 17,000 Baht per month.
I arrive in Pattaya on Saturday, January 10th. If any ISG expat would care to hook up and share their knowledge re: living in Pattaya, the drinks are all on me. Just send me a PM.
I'm also up for a bar hop if anyone is interested. Soi 6, Genleman's Clubs, The Dark Side or. Of course, we would need an experienced guide and he should be treated appropriately. PMs are welcome.[/QUOTE]Unable to send you a PM. Soo...,There is an expat club that meets every Sunday Morning at 9a, with a 95 Baht breakfast. Meeting starts at 10:30a, held at the Tavern by the Sea Restaurant, Amari Orchid Resort, north of Soi 1. I missed last Sunday, but will be there this coming Sunday. I found apartments in the $500 USD / month range in the Jomtien area. There is another Soi 6 crawl Jan 13 and a Gentlemen's Club crawl Jan 27. I'm also looking into venturing into the Dark Side. Send me a PM for more info. With a nic of Nuevo, ¿Habla Español?
[QUOTE=Nuevo;1665104]
1. Prices have shot through the roof! I bar-fined 2 average looking ladies for 1500 Baht each for LT. I took them from Silver Star GoGo on Soi 8 and they were a lot of fun. That was the 2012 visit. Now LT from the GoGos is $4000 B. Ouch! I hope that is just on Walking Street.
2. There is a whole new class of venues for me to explore. At least they are new to me, for example the so-called Gentleman's Clubs. From the posts I have read they don't sound to be much different than the establishments on Soi 6 except that they are more scattered and more difficult to get to. Also, the posts regarding these venues indicate they can be quite sleazy so I have no option but to visit them. I just have to figure out how to get to them.
5. Sensations. I read a lot of posts but I am unclear about what this venue is all about. Are you discussing freelancers in a gogo or is it a disco with Mamasans? Where is this establishment on Walking Street?
6. Insomnia, Mixx, etc. For freelancers. Should I even bother? I am 63 years old. I'm not grotesque, I am not over weight, but I am realistic. Forget the dance floor. I just want to find a cutie for ST / LT.
7. Beach Road Street Walkers. So the price is right. I have walked the road many, many times. Almost all of the girls were not acceptable to me. That is just my opinion and things on Beach Road may have changed. I like walking so maybe I will find that diamond on BR.
[/QUOTE]Re 1: The prices elsewhere in Pattaya are lower, for example in the LK Metro area. But in general the prices have gone up all over town.
Re 2: You have have no option but to visit them? You dirty pervert, LOL! The easiest way to get to them is to take a moto bike taxi. Or you have to figure out (by asking your hotel staff for example) how to get there by baht bus, if that is possible anyway. Don't take a taxi, they will ask a ridiculous price.
Re 5: Sensations is just an agogo but one of the bigger ones with (expensive) coyotes. It's approximately at one third down Walking Street on your right hand side.
Re 6: Yes you should bother or at least give it a try. If you can stand the noise, better bring your ear plugs.
Re 7: Yes, quality has gone down but you can still find a diamond in the rough on BR. But just not so often anymore unfortunately.
Enjoy your retirement! I'm jealous.
Hello,
I am a 1st time traveler to Pattaya.
Would request forum members to help me suggest good gogo bars and massage places.
Also a places where we can enjoy late night party.
We are also planning to take a villa for partying for one night and suggestion on whom to contact and arrangements that can be made.
Thanks,
Tarus
[QUOTE=Teltel;1665128]You have to be aware of the scams in Pattaya and other areas, there are some notorious foreigners running scams and even pretending to be lawyers and other helpful experts.
Check out andrew-drummond for some leads.
Teltel.[/QUOTE]Thank you Teltel for responding to my email. There are scams and scammers everywhere unfortunately. Pattaya, Thailand, SE Asia the USA where I will be coming from and the whole world. I hope to be exceptionally cautious. I won't be making spontaneous decisions without consulting with everyone who is willing to talk to me and with lots of research.
I had a very, very good friend that I hooked up with on my 3rd visit to Thailand 11 years ago. He was a really nice fellow. He moved from the USA to Pattaya and met this farang guy in a bar. The guy told my friend he could lease a hotel from him and my friend would clean-up. The hotel was on the hill between Pattaya and Jontiem. It was in the middle of friggin' no where. It wasn't near transportation, it wasn't near the water and it had no view. (I stayed there for a couple of nights.) So my friend never had any customers. He spent an extraordinary amount for the stupid lease. I asked my friend to do some research on the guy before he signed up for the "deal of a lifetime". He told me that the guy had a huge boat that he road up and down off Pattaya Beach. I told him that the boat came from scamming farangs. I literally begged him not to do this thing. Of course he did it anyway. He was out of business in 4 months. He lost everything. He lived miserably and slowly drank himself to death. He passed away 3 years ago.
RIP Greg.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1665156]Unable to send you a PM. Soo...,There is an expat club that meets every Sunday Morning at 9a, with a 95 Baht breakfast. Meeting starts at 10:30a, held at the Tavern by the Sea Restaurant, Amari Orchid Resort, north of Soi 1. I missed last Sunday, but will be there this coming Sunday. I found apartments in the $500 USD / month range in the Jomtien area. There is another Soi 6 crawl Jan 13 and a Gentlemen's Club crawl Jan 27. I'm also looking into venturing into the Dark Side. Send me a PM for more info. With a nic of Nuevo, Habla Espaol?[/QUOTE]Hello JM,
I think I must be the king of bad timing. I arrive on Saturday the 17th. I depart for Chiang Mai on the morning of the 27th. I would have joined the Soi 6 crawl for sure. I know Soi 6 pretty well. But, it would have been fun until I fell on my face after the first 10 or 12 bars. The Gentleman's Club crawl is something that I would really like to do. I may have to change my flight to Chiang Mai and extend my visit for a day.
I am going to go to any expat meeting that I can during this upcoming visit. The visit is about learning about living in Pattaya. Extracurricular activities are going to be a big time bonus of course. So thanks for that.
I am seriously considering Jontiem. I think I will need a car if I go that route.
With regards to the PM. One of the boards members sent me an informative PM. So I will send you a PM now and we can see how it works. Yes, I do want to "Walk on the Dark Side". (Or moto taxi).
BTW. The moniker / ISG name. The first board I posted on was a Tijuana Board. Nuevo seemed appropriate at the time. I just thought it was best to keep just one name. I have been flamed a bit for it. I took 4 years of Spanish in highscool. I am not a native speaker. But when I travel south I can pick it up pretty quickly.
Thanks for responding. I appreciate the info.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1665156]Unable to send you a PM. [/QUOTE]So I sent a PM to another member and it appears to have gone through. When I tried to send one to you I got the following IE error message. I don't know what the issue is.
This page can't be displayed.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1665207]Re 1: The prices elsewhere in Pattaya are lower, for example in the LK Metro area. But in general the prices have gone up all over town.
Re 2: You have have no option but to visit them? You dirty pervert, LOL! The easiest way to get to them is to take a moto bike taxi. Or you have to figure out (by asking your hotel staff for example) how to get there by baht bus, if that is possible anyway. Don't take a taxi, they will ask a ridiculous price.
Re 5: Sensations is just an agogo but one of the bigger ones with (expensive) coyotes. It's approximately at one third down Walking Street on your right hand side.
Re 6: Yes you should bother or at least give it a try. If you can stand the noise, better bring your ear plugs.
Re 7: Yes, quality has gone down but you can still find a diamond in the rough on BR. But just not so often anymore unfortunately.
Enjoy your retirement! I'm jealous.[/QUOTE]Dear M,
Quitting smoking has proved easier than quitting being a dirty pervert. Yeah, I'll probably have to take moto taxis. I hate that. There is the potential for death at every intersection! I'll just have to close my eyes and deal. I will find a way to visit these venues one way or another!
I'm all up for the Soi Bukao, Soi Honey and LK Metro venues. I can't experience them if I don't do some walk-a-bouts through these Sois.
I think I read posts about freelancers in Sensations. I need to go back and look at my notes.
I have ear plugs and WTF, it won't hurt to take a look see in the discos.
I'll report on what I see on BR. I have a camera with a 50X lens. I might takes some pics from some distance and share the quality of my experiences.
Thanks so much for your inputs.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1665156]Unable to send you a PM. Soo...,There is an expat club that meets every Sunday Morning at 9a, with a 95 Baht breakfast. Meeting starts at 10:30a, held at the Tavern by the Sea Restaurant, Amari Orchid Resort, north of Soi 1. I missed last Sunday, but will be there this coming Sunday. I found apartments in the $500 USD / month range in the Jomtien area. There is another Soi 6 crawl Jan 13 and a Gentlemen's Club crawl Jan 27. I'm also looking into venturing into the Dark Side. Send me a PM for more info. With a nic of Nuevo, Habla Espaol?[/QUOTE]I would like to come to these crawls. How does one arrange to go!
[QUOTE=VanWilderGuy;1665556]I would like to come to these crawls. How does one arrange to go![/QUOTE]Well, first of all it would help if you posted some trip reports. Per your posting history, you spent 2 weeks in Taipei and 3 weeks in the Philippines, (Supposedly.) Supposedly, because, where's your trip reports, dude? This site only works by Sharing information. Of your 12 reports, only 1 may have helped 1 member. Start sharing what you know, instead of just asking for info. With that said, this is my first trip to Thailand and Pattaya. I RTFF, (not that there was anything here about a G club crawl.) Did some research and somehow found the G club crawl. Unfortunately, I'm unable to send you that Info, as it's on a competing forum and you have no PM capabilities. BTW, membership costs. $19.95. (Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.) See, if you had posted trip reports from your 2 alleged trips, you'd be there by now. All I can tell you: Google is your friend. Best of Luck VWG.
Hi,
Looking for a bar / bars that get proceedings underway say around 11 am ish.
Wanting to get BBBJ and HJ's while having a beer and listening to some decent rock tunes to recover from previous nights encounters.
I usually enjoy getting into one or two early sessions during my campaigns.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1665705]Well, first of all it would help if you posted some trip reports. Per your posting history, you spent 2 weeks in Taipei and 3 weeks in the Philippines, (Supposedly.) Supposedly, because, where's your trip reports, dude? This site only works by Sharing information. Of your 12 reports, only 1 may have helped 1 member. Start sharing what you know, instead of just asking for info. With that said, this is my first trip to Thailand and Pattaya. I RTFF, (not that there was anything here about a G club crawl.) Did some research and somehow found the G club crawl. Unfortunately, I'm unable to send you that Info, as it's on a competing forum and you have no PM capabilities. BTW, membership costs. $19.95. (Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.) See, if you had posted trip reports from your 2 alleged trips, you'd be there by now. All I can tell you: Google is your friend. Best of Luck VWG.[/QUOTE]I was not a part or aware of this forum when I was in Thailand last time. I plan to give detailed reports everyday I am there and where I find girls. I will get membership today. I had planned to do for a while. I live in Taipei now but I don't monger here as its too expensive and hard to find anywhere, its mostly a locals only kind of place unless you pay crazy prices for girls to come to your place, I just meet girls at clubs and bars here. I will share my knowledge while I am there but what I learn in 2010 before I'm a member it is irrelevant as it was so long ago and won't help anyone. I am still new to mongering so I don't have much information to share. Yet! I will spend 3-4 weeks traveling Thailand and Cambodia so my reports will come. I just wanted to go on a pub crawl and meet some other mates.
Thank you Java man.
Poster on a competing site recommend three daytime gogo's. Thought I'd check them out. Actually went twice to them. He was high on Vegas III on soi 13/1, said it had the best lineup. I first went in the evening, only 6 ladies available. Nice that 2 were nekkid and on their knees in front of their customers. The ladies were average at best, older, chubbier. Had one beer and left. I returned 3 p today, Almost a repeat of my previous trip, but no ladies on their knees nor nekkid. 7 ladies available, most occupied. Still average at best, and chubby, a couple younger ones. 3 with nice asses. 50 baht draft beer.
His second best lineup: Far East Agogo on soi 13/2. I went there 10:30 p just to see where it was at. Went in just to get a beer. Only 2 ladies present. Sat down anyway, Bar hag, very rudely tells me, they're going to close soon. OK, when I ask what time they open tomorrow, she ignores me and walks toward the entrance. She returns and asks rudely if I want a beer. HUH? I left. No sure if I'll return.
Third one he liked is Miami agogo also on soi 13/2. Weak lineup when I first visited one late afternoon. Thought the ladies looked older. Had a 50 baht draft, and left. Returned today, and it was hopping with a lot of crouch grabbing going on. 6-8 ladies present, all occupied. There's a nice cute one with a pair of natural 36 the's. Mix of young and old ladies. LD are shot: 130 baht, Beer 200 Baht, Special 250 baht. BF: 600 weekday, 800 weekend, 1000 special. Since everyone was busy, had 1 beer and left. I'll return.
My tour kicks off Jan 29th thru until 14th Feb.
Locales to be hit are BKK, Patt, Sumi.
5th trip to LOS this time. Detailed reports will be provided.
Thanks to this most excellent forum and you focused mongers I have some nice lntel to get the most out of my time.
Can someone supply thoughts on The Gentlemen's Club scene in Patt for daytime debauchery please.
Logistics:
I flew Cathay Pacific for the second time, I was impressed with crew and the food. This time of year is the worst time to fly West because of the strong head winds, 14+ hours to Hong Kong, another 3 to BKK; it sucked. Thank god for my magical purple sleeping pills, I slept most of the way.
I used Mr. Keak taxi service again, 1000 be each way. The driver met me at the airport and we stopped at 7-11 to get adult beverages and a SIM card. The chunky 7-11 manager told me that I could not use my Thai SIM card in my duel SIM card cell phone; fucking idiot. It worked just find, as in every other country where I used the dual card phone.
I was tired as hell and I realized that when I tried to use a bottle opener for my bottles. It was at least five minutes of trying before I realized that my bottles were screw tops! Traffic into Pattaya was a nightmare; thank goodness I had adult beverages to keep me company.
I stayed at my favorite hotel in the world; Penthouse. My old room 518 was remolded and was bigger in size, jacuzzi was larger, and the price was higher as well; fuck it, tis the season. The staff at the hotel is outstanding. No matter what time I woke up, sometimes at three in the afternoon, I was always greeted with, "Good morning sir" when I called for room service. The Thai ice coffee was outstanding to say the least. Nope, I was not attacked by any ladyboys or cockroaches during my entire stay!
The Trip:
This trip was a bit different than in the past. My best sessions were at Kinnaree and my worst sessions were in my room; go figure. After jacuzzi operations, a couple of the girls were so relaxed, they just wanted to sleep; I threw their asses out without giving them a single fucking Baht!
There was a shitload of Asian tour groups every night on walking street. Each group was led around by the tour guide holding up a flag, and they all followed the silly flag. What I wanted to do, but didn't, was to run up and grab one of the flags and then run like hell down walking street. This was my biggest regrets of the trip; not snatching the silly flag!
It seemed all the girls were internet savvy and refused nude photos showing their faces, so I just took a bunch a body shots. I'm not very picky, so I had younger and older ladies. As well as skinny and somewhat chunky ladies. This trip, I did not pull a girl out of a gogo bar. Instead, I pulled girls out of the open-air and smaller bars. I skipped Soi 6 and Soi Metro this trip as well. The large building that had the X-Zone and several other clubs, now only has one gogo bar in the building; which I wasn't impressed with whatsoever.
Overall thoughts:
Pattaya was packed! Tourists, mongers, and more importantly, 1000's and 1000's of women. Almost everywhere I looked, there were spinners and stunners. I must have said, "Oh my Buddha!" a thousand times during the trip. The Russians were down in numbers big time, but the Asian tour groups filled in the gaps on walking street.
I've been going to the LOS since 1978, at least one or more times a year. The last couple of trips have been OK, and I need more than OK at this stage of my life. I think after all these years, I did all I could in Pattaya and BKK, and it is unlikely I could top any of my adventures now or in the future. So, I bid farewell to the LOS. I have the best travel memories that will last me until my number is called.
Thank you Thailand!
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1665724]Poster on a competing site recommend three daytime gogo's. Thought I'd check them out. Actually went twice to them. He was high on Vegas III on soi 13/1, said it had the best lineup. I first went in the evening, only 6 ladies available. Nice that 2 were nekkid and on their knees in front of their customers. The ladies were average at best, older, chubbier. Had one beer and left. I returned 3 p today, Almost a repeat of my previous trip, but no ladies on their knees nor nekkid. 7 ladies available, most occupied. Still average at best, and chubby, a couple younger ones. 3 with nice asses. 50 baht draft beer.
His second best lineup: Far East Agogo on soi 13/2. I went there 10:30 p just to see where it was at. Went in just to get a beer. Only 2 ladies present. Sat down anyway, Bar hag, very rudely tells me, they're going to close soon. OK, when I ask what time they open tomorrow, she ignores me and walks toward the entrance. She returns and asks rudely if I want a beer. HUH? I left. No sure if I'll return.
Third one he liked is Miami agogo also on soi 13/2. Weak lineup when I first visited one late afternoon. Thought the ladies looked older. Had a 50 baht draft, and left. Returned today, and it was hopping with a lot of crouch grabbing going on. 6-8 ladies present, all occupied. There's a nice cute one with a pair of natural 36 the's. Mix of young and old ladies. LD are shot: 130 baht, Beer 200 Baht, Special 250 baht. BF: 600 weekday, 800 weekend, 1000 special. Since everyone was busy, had 1 beer and left. I'll return.[/QUOTE]Interesting info JM, didn't know day time Go-Gos existed, I thought the Go-Go attached to Tim's bar was one of the early birds beginning before 6 pm. Wish these places had a somewhat better line up, your mate at the competing forum however didn't appear to provide you with good intel on this search LOL.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1665883]Interesting info JM, didn't know day time Go-Gos existed, I thought the Go-Go attached to Tim's bar was one of the early birds beginning before 6 pm. Wish these places had a somewhat better line up, your mate at the competing forum however didn't appear to provide you with good intel on this search LOL.[/QUOTE]I've always thought Tahitian Queen was the best day time go go. Located on one of the Soi 13's. Are they still around?
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1665883]Interesting info JM, didn't know day time Go-Gos existed, I thought the Go-Go attached to Tim's bar was one of the early birds beginning before 6 pm. Wish these places had a somewhat better line up, your mate at the competing forum however didn't appear to provide you with good intel on this search LOL.[/QUOTE]Some open at 1p or 2p, close at 12a or 1a. Less ladies available later in the evening. His intel was YMMV.
[QUOTE=Allover;1665951]I've always thought Tahitian Queen was the best day time go go. Located on one of the Soi 13's. Are they still around?[/QUOTE]Tahitian Queen still open, has a lineup of older ladies though. Went there my second night in Pattaya, a Friday around 11p, it was rocking. Went 3 weeks later, mid week, about the same time, it was Dead, few lackluster ladies. Big negative is the 2500 baht BF for ST there.
Nuevo, I sent you a PM.
[QUOTE=Allover;1665951]I've always thought Tahitian Queen was the best day time go go. Located on one of the Soi 13's. Are they still around?[/QUOTE]Tahitian Queen is still around last I checked, and they quite proudly advertise that they are Pattaya's first Go-Go. I have no idea about the line up though, they never allowed me in even though I had a farang friend waiting inside LOL. Never went back there since.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1666067]Tahitian Queen is still around last I checked, and they quite proudly advertise that they are Pattaya's first Go-Go. I have no idea about the line up though, they never allowed me in even though I had a farang friend waiting inside LOL. Never went back there since.[/QUOTE]TQ is still around. Pretty good line up in the daytime. Always like walking in on a sunny day. Contrast from light outside to dark inside is cool. The first thing your eyes adjust to are the bikinis glowing in the neon lights. I forget if it's a 1 pm or 2 pm start.
The same back in Nov. I thought the same thing, I wanted to grab one of those stupid flags and start walking to see if idiots would follow me. I thought it was disgusting to see family's with children and elders on Walking Street. It reminded me of Disneyland except Snow White had to wear a long dress at Disneyland. Anyway, if that wasn't bad enough the huge buses that they came in clogged up Beach Road to a slow moving parking lot. I to regret not grabbing one of their flags, maybe next time, I am sure we have another Billion Asian tourists that have Walking Street on their bucket list.
There was a shitload of Asian tour groups every night on walking street. Each group was led around by the tour guide holding up a flag, and they all followed the silly flag. What I wanted to do, but didn't, was to run up and grab one of the flags and then run like hell down walking street. This was my biggest regrets of the trip; not snatching the silly flag!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1665826]Logistics:
I flew Cathay Pacific for the second time, I was impressed with crew and the food. This time of year is the worst time to fly West because of the strong head winds, 14+ hours to Hong Kong, another 3 to BKK; it sucked. Thank god for my magical purple sleeping pills, I slept most of the way.
I used Mr. Keak taxi service again, 1000 be each way. The driver met me at the airport and we stopped at 7-11 to get adult beverages and a SIM card. The chunky 7-11 manager told me that I could not use my Thai SIM card in my duel SIM card cell phone; fucking idiot. It worked just find, as in every other country where I used the dual card phone.
I was tired as hell and I realized that when I tried to use a bottle opener for my bottles. It was at least five minutes of trying before I realized that my bottles were screw tops! Traffic into Pattaya was a nightmare; thank goodness I had adult beverages to keep me company.
I stayed at my favorite hotel in the world; Penthouse. My old room 518 was remolded and was bigger in size, jacuzzi was larger, and the price was higher as well; fuck it, tis the season. The staff at the hotel is outstanding. No matter what time I woke up, sometimes at three in the afternoon, I was always greeted with, "Good morning sir" when I called for room service. The Thai ice coffee was outstanding to say the least. Nope, I was not attacked by any ladyboys or cockroaches during my entire stay!
The Trip:
This trip was a bit different than in the past. My best sessions were at Kinnaree and my worst sessions were in my room; go figure. After jacuzzi operations, a couple of the girls were so relaxed, they just wanted to sleep; I threw their asses out without giving them a single fucking Baht!
There was a shitload of Asian tour groups every night on walking street. Each group was led around by the tour guide holding up a flag, and they all followed the silly flag. What I wanted to do, but didn't, was to run up and grab one of the flags and then run like hell down walking street. This was my biggest regrets of the trip; not snatching the silly flag!
It seemed all the girls were internet savvy and refused nude photos showing their faces, so I just took a bunch a body shots. I'm not very picky, so I had younger and older ladies. As well as skinny and somewhat chunky ladies. This trip, I did not pull a girl out of a gogo bar. Instead, I pulled girls out of the open-air and smaller bars. I skipped Soi 6 and Soi Metro this trip as well. The large building that had the X-Zone and several other clubs, now only has one gogo bar in the building; which I wasn't impressed with whatsoever.
Overall thoughts:
Pattaya was packed! Tourists, mongers, and more importantly, 1000's and 1000's of women. Almost everywhere I looked, there were spinners and stunners. I must have said, "Oh my Buddha!" a thousand times during the trip. The Russians were down in numbers big time, but the Asian tour groups filled in the gaps on walking street.
I've been going to the LOS since 1978, at least one or more times a year. The last couple of trips have been OK, and I need more than OK at this stage of my life. I think after all these years, I did all I could in Pattaya and BKK, and it is unlikely I could top any of my adventures now or in the future. So, I bid farewell to the LOS. I have the best travel memories that will last me until my number is called.
Thank you Thailand![/QUOTE]Tom now that you are through with Thailand where will you go what is next??
[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1666237]Tom now that you are through with Thailand where will you go what is next??[/QUOTE]He will to Tijuana!
[QUOTE=Nuevo;1665525]Hello JM,
I think I must be the king of bad timing. I arrive on Saturday the 17th. I depart for Chiang Mai on the morning of the 27th. I would have joined the Soi 6 crawl for sure. I know Soi 6 pretty well. But, it would have been fun until I fell on my face after the first 10 or 12 bars. The Gentleman's Club crawl is something that I would really like to do. I may have to change my flight to Chiang Mai and extend my visit for a day.
I am going to go to any expat meeting that I can during this upcoming visit. The visit is about learning about living in Pattaya. Extracurricular activities are going to be a big time bonus of course. So thanks for that.
I am seriously considering Jontiem. I think I will need a car if I go that route.
Thanks for responding. I appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]I moved to Jomtien over a year ago and do fine using Baht Buses and the odd motorbike taxis. 1 hour 40 by airport bus at FoodMart gets you to the Bangkok Skytrain and subway system. 15 passenger vans continually running on Sukumvit. Never wait more than 5 minutes, just stand after one of the traffic lights. 60-80 baht to Ban Chang bars. Parking makes a car a pain in the ass. On weekends and holidays Bangkok condo owners flood down and there is no parking left at our building.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1665826]I've been going to the LOS since 1978, at least one or more times a year. The last couple of trips have been OK, and I need more than OK at this stage of my life. I think after all these years, I did all I could in Pattaya and BKK, and it is unlikely I could top any of my adventures now or in the future. So, I bid farewell to the LOS.[/QUOTE]No more trips to Thailand for Mr. Jackin? Say it isn't so!
I've been enjoying his reports on Pattaya, Bangkok (and Tijuana too) for years. They were always informative, and frequently witty as well. Can't imagine ISG without him.
Stay in touch sir!
Bunky
[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1666228]
.... I to regret not grabbing one of their flags, maybe next time....
[/QUOTE]Yes, sometimes very, very beautiful Chinese Girls fellow the Flags. ! 555.
[QUOTE=Bunky;1666333]No more trips to Thailand for Mr. Jackin? Say it isn't so!
I've been enjoying his reports on Pattaya, Bangkok (and Tijuana too) for years. They were always informative, and frequently witty as well. Can't imagine ISG without him.[/QUOTE]I will still be active in Mexico, Central and South America, not to mentioned the DR, Sosua. I will do my best to report where ever I romp around.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1666285]He will to Tijuana![/QUOTE]Not a tough guess there. Tijuana is 20-30 minutes tops from my apartment in San Diego. Come down and join me one Friday; I'm buying!
[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1666237]Tom now that you are through with Thailand where will you go what is next??[/QUOTE]Next is Cartagena at the end of this month. Because I have been focusing on learning Spanish, I will be hanging out and Central and South America when time permits. If I have to work, and I hate fucking work, I will hang in Tijuana on the weekends.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1666359]I will still be active in Mexico, Central and South America, not to mentioned the DR, Sosua. I will do my best to report where ever I romp around.
Not a tough guess there. Tijuana is 20-30 minutes tops from my apartment in San Diego. Come down and join me one Friday; I'm buying!
Next is Cartagena at the end of this month. Because I have been focusing on learning Spanish, I will be hanging out and Central and South America when time permits. If I have to work, and I hate fucking work, I will hang in Tijuana on the weekends.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is nice for sight seeing and has girls, however Medellin is much better. When I'm not in Sosua I'm in Playas on the weekends and headed to Thailand and Cambodia next month.
For a change of pace, I went to WS last night. Stopped first at Sapphire A-go-go, on Soi 15. Lots of young talent, briefly saw one topless dancer but not on stage. LD: 130 baht, shot: 155 baht. 1000 BF, 2000ST, 3000 LT. Seemed all G-rated. Had one beer and left.
Wanted to go to Babydolls A-go-go, also on Soi 15, but mistakenly entered Private Dancer, (they're next to each other.) Mix of older and younger dancers. Ordered a 65 baht draft beer. Noticed that they had tiered BF's of 600, 800, and 1000, depending on type of dancer. After 1:30a, BF drops to 400, IIRC. 5 dancers on the main stage, only noticed 1 topless. Noticed 2 big titted dancers, one slightly older and chubbier, both in baby-dolls. Behind me was a circular stage, with a nekkid slim dancer, no one around her. Then noticed a waterless Jacuzzi, dildos around it's raised platform. Asked a bar maid what that was about, she invited me to sit by it. Then I noticed signs on the wall, asking one to buy a 140 baht LD, if you were going to play with a dancer.
Nekkid chick on the circular stage invited me to play with her, and to use one of the dildos. She was not to my liking, so I declined. Both big titted chicks approached the nekkid dancer, noticed that the younger one was panty-less. Looked like it was a dancer change.
Older big tits, lets caller her #1, approached and started to grope me, I felt her up, she had a soft body, and a slight belly roll. After a bit of feeling each other up, bought her a LD. She reached into my shorts, and started with a HJ. She got up onto the the Jacuzzi platform, cleaned herself up, and had me sit on couch between Jacuzzi and wall. She handed me a dildo and I proceeded to use it on her. It was at this point, I noticed a couple of gents had sat around the the nekkid dancer on the circular stage. One guy was DATY.
Big tit's #2 then joined us, and with her help, #1, unzipped my pants and got junior out. #1 showed her flexibility by bending over and taking Junior into her mouth. (OH! It's that kinda of bar.) :D More LD drinks for both. At one point, I had left hand fingers inside #2, right hand fingers in #1. #3 joined and started stroking Junior. :cool:
Here's were it went downhill: #3 musta eaten something spicy, cause not to long after she started stroking, Junior started to burn. :eek: Needless to say, an immediate stop to the festivities. All three, bar maid, mama-san came to my aid, several wet wipes were used, even ice. Irritation diminished a bit. I looked towards the circular stage and saw one of the guys was getting a BBBJ, by a nice looking dancer. #1 also offered a BBBJ, but I was still irritated.
I had to go to into the toilet to wash Junior with soap and water. When I returned to my seat, another guy was sitting nearby, getting a BBBJ from two chicks. #3 returned and apologized profusely. I stayed a little longer, til Junior started feeling better. Played some more with #1 and flirted with the 30 yr old mama-san. It was also nice, that #1 made sure I was aware of the increasing bin. Yes, my wallet was raped, :o but I had fun. I'll return to see if I will get the same mistreatment from some of the other dancers. :D
After that misadventure, went next door into Babydolls. Dancers younger then at Private dancer. Sat next to the Jacuzzi, where they do shower shows. Things looking up, when I saw an unopened rubber near the edge of the Jacuzzi. (Another naughty bar!) 140 baht LD opens their legs. 800 baht BF, but after 1:30a it drops to 400 baht. Really clicked with one dancer, BF'd her. Got to the Hotel, started playing, it was going good, then the dreaded phone call. Her sister supposedly locked out. Out the door she went. :( Going to go back and BF one of her friends.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1666449]Here's were it went downhill: #3 musta eaten something spicy, cause not to long after she started stroking, Junior started to burn. :eek: Needless to say, an immediate stop to the festivities. All three, bar maid, mama-san came to my aid, several wet wipes were used, even ice. Irritation diminished a bit. I looked towards the circular stage and saw one of the guys was getting a BBBJ, by a nice looking dancer. #1 also offered a BBBJ, but I was still irritated.
I had to go to into the toilet to wash Junior with soap and water. [/QUOTE]Nice report JM!
I've had a similar experience once with a 'burning' dick. One of my regulars gave me a BBBJ and after a few minutes my dick was on fire. It appeared that she had used some kind of skin lotion before she came to my hotel. So it was on her hands and her hands stroke my dick during the BJ.
Dear All,
I was try to read and understand the senario in Pattaya and Bangkok, but I couldn't.
I will be visiting Thailand in Next month, I would require some guidance on how to make my stay most memorable and also prevent cheater.
I was also looking for ladyboy experience.
Could some one guide me on this please.
Thank you in advance.
Sam.
[QUOTE=ShamSagar;1667144]Dear All,
I was try to read and understand the senario in Pattaya and Bangkok, but I couldn't.
I will be visiting Thailand in Next month, I would require some guidance on how to make my stay most memorable and also prevent cheater.
I was also looking for ladyboy experience.
Could some one guide me on this please.
Thank you in advance.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Sorry! Rules Ladyboy discussion is not allow here! If you want go to [URL]www.thailadyboy.com[/URL]?
[QUOTE=ShamSagar;1667144]Dear All,
I was try to read and understand the senario in Pattaya and Bangkok, but I couldn't.
I will be visiting Thailand in Next month, I would require some guidance on how to make my stay most memorable and also prevent cheater.
I was also looking for ladyboy experience.
Could some one guide me on this please.
Thank you in advance.
Sam.[/QUOTE]So you have read the Pattaya and Bangkok threads thoroughly, let's say at least until 6 months back? Or even better 1 year back?
If you did then please let us know what it is exactly that you did not understand. Because your question is too general now. So please be more specific.
The whereabouts of ladyboys are often mentioned in these threads by the way.
[QUOTE=ShamSagar;1667144]I was also looking for ladyboy experience.
Could some one guide me on this please.[/QUOTE]Ladyboys are off-topic on this forum.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1665207]
Re 6: Yes you should bother or at least give it a try. If you can stand the noise, better bring your ear plugs.
[/QUOTE]I don't agree. Reasonably at 62 yrs Mixx is no p4p playground. However there is very thin availability there.
Will be in Pattaya January 29th for 4 days.
I will be happy to meet fellow mongers for a drink.
You can PM me.
This is my first post but I have been reading the forum for the last 3 years and this will be my 5th time in Thailand in the last 3 years.
Happy and safe mongering for all.
[QUOTE=Nuevo;1665104]I have a couple of questions (of course).
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So this visit has a dual purpose. I think my list of "learned things" above indicates my first purpose fairly clearly. To maximize my apparent objective I will need to procure one of the generic Cialis (Tadalafil) products. Unlike the barfines and ST / LT tips; the prices for these ED pharmaceuticals have plummeted from the original brand. I could walk from pharmacy to pharmacy asking if they have the product. But, I would like my first day spending more of my time looking for my first cutie than walking in and out of pharmacies. I will be staying on Soi 2. If anyone can recommend a specific pharmacy with a name and location near or not so near where I am staying I would seriously appreciate the advice.
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Nuevo.[/QUOTE]On second road, go to the left at Soi 3. About 15 meters, there is a small pharmacy down on the left. They have all of the products. Last time in October, Apsalis (Indian copy) was 400 B for 4 pack. They have kamagra gel, too the 50 pack is the best price. As with most, the price per unit drops as the volume increases.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1667249]I don't agree. Reasonably at 62 yrs Mixx is no p4p playground. However there is very thin availability there.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with your don't agree. My dad is 64 and he goes to the discos to get chicks with me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1667293]I don't agree with your don't agree. My dad is 64 and he goes to the discos to get chicks with me.[/QUOTE]Who are you? Dennis Rodman hahahaha! Oh yeah wait, his dad is in The PI LOL! Just playing with you man LOL!
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1667275]On second road, go to the left at Soi 3. About 15 meters, there is a small pharmacy down on the left. They have all of the products. Last time in October, Apsalis (Indian copy) was 400 B for 4 pack. They have kamagra gel, too the 50 pack is the best price. As with most, the price per unit drops as the volume increases.[/QUOTE]Excellent Dinghy! I know this one of those dumb questions that makes everyone yawn and move on to the next post. But, it is a big help to me.
Thanks.
Soapies aren't my usual thing, but since I was in Pattaya and one was nearby I decided to pay a visit to Honey Massage 2. The lineup was pretty good at around 5 pm. After a few minutes I picked a girl who was acting silly and seemed friendly, #470. Her name is Dai. It was a mistake.
First thing she does is turn on the TV to some Thai pop music with the volume deafening. I turn it off. She leaves the door to the room wide open. I ask her about it and she says "Toilet. " I don't really understand. If she needs the toilet why doesn't she use it? Leaving the door open doesn't help. So I close the door.
She has a cute face and fine body and is a bit tall for a Thai lady. Her breasts seemed pretty large until she took off her clothes. Not a big problem. Then she tells me to buy her a beer and says something I don't understand about drinking a lot of beer. I don't buy her anything. Then she fills the bathtub and has me get in.
Then she squats next to the bathtub and pisses on the floor. After that, she gets in the tub and rubs my body in a hyper, almost frantic, non-sensual way. It's a big turn off. She tells me to sit back and relax. Her hyper hands, pissing on the floor next to me, need for a loud music, and request for beer don't put me in anything close to a relaxed state.
Then onto the air mattress. She goes through some mechanical gyrations rubbing herself against me in a quick way. It would have been erotic if she had slowed down like I kept asking her to. It felt more like going through a car wash than having a soapie. She did her air mattress stunts for maybe 3-4 minutes. In previous soapies this part lasted 10+ minutes.
On the bed she refuses BBJ. She tells me all the girls do CBJ only. (ISG: is this true? I haven't heart of this.) CBJ would be okay with some ladies, but with her I wasn't at all aroused. I leave and ask for a refund. One isn't given.
My initial impression was that she was cheerful, bubbly and eccentric. After a few minutes in her company I'm more inclined to say she was drunk, on speed, or both.
So I have to give Honey Massage 2 a thumbs down and #470 (Dai) a thumbs down. It was a waste of time and money. Fortunately I had a much better time later that night on soi 6 for half the price.
Honey Massage 2 - train your girls to relieve themselves in the toilet! House train the girls before letting them loose on customers.
This sounds like right out of a Chinese bath house. Awesome culture the Chinese are. I'm sure she must have been at least half.