Club Angelique does charge 50€ for 30min non BB sex, right?
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Club Angelique does charge 50€ for 30min non BB sex, right?
HB
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1429935]Club Angelique is an AO FKK club with similar business model as Arabella, Villa Venus and Sauna Grimberg[/QUOTE]Disagree. Angelique is quite different. I heard that Angelique is owned (or at least managed) by the girls. I guess Alisa and Alina. Totally different ambiance. Better service, better girls and significantly higher price. V-Venus and Arabella can be called FKK. Angelique is more like a private club or brothel.
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1429950]Club Angelique does charge 50€ for 30min non BB sex, right?
HB[/QUOTE]No. 50€ is for 30 min covered. AO is 30€ extra. 1/2 hour AO = 80€. 1 hour AO = 110€. However some days they have discounts. There are also flatrate parties on case to case base.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1429955]No. 50€ is for 30 min covered. AO is 30€ extra. 1/2 hour AO = 80€. 1 hour AO = 110€. However some days they have discounts. There are also flatrate parties on case to case base.[/QUOTE]That's what I said. It's 50€/30min [b]non BB[/B] Sex. So that's the normal tariff like in a "decent" FKK club. Just my 0, 02€.
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1429964]That's what I said. It's 50€/30min [b]non BB[/B] Sex. So that's the normal tariff like in a "decent" FKK club. Just my 0, 02€.
HB[/QUOTE]That's correct. And some girls quality and service level is as in a 'decent' FKK as well. But ambiance is not even close.
Sounds to me that Angelique is a much more sensible club to have it's own thread as opposed to the tacky threesome that is Arabella, Venus and Grimberg!
At least the hookers look presentable!
K
[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1429980]Sounds to me that Angelique is a much more sensible club to have it's own thread as opposed to the tacky threesome that is Arabella, Venus and Grimberg!
At least the hookers look presentable!
K[/QUOTE]I am not sure in which forum should be this thread. This is neither FKK nor Partytreff. They call themselves "Club Angelique". Freirercafe treats them as FKK, but I would say that this club is unique.
Only 7 girls work there. Is that enough for the thread?
[QUOTE=Maxime; 1429926]Strange discussion. I happen to like snd visit most of the large FKK and saunaclubs, in NRW and Hessen, already for more than 8 years, but I also like the smaller, more intimate places. And also I visited many ero parties (NOT Partytreffs, for me most of them lack atmospehere). This is totally NOT related to the fact if a club or partry (treff) , or (some) girls there, offer AO or not. There are pure AO clubs / party (treffs) but also the ones that claim to be NO-AO, have girls that offer AO, yes, also in the large clean, and high-class clubs.
Especially this forum is mend to give and find information about a club / party (treff) and the girls working there. And every one can do with this information what he (or she?) wants:
- If you read a club is pure AO, and you want it, you can go, if you don't want it, avoid.
- If you read about smaller clubs that offer intimate and natural setting, with high-service girls, and no " high class sharks", and you want it, you can go, if you like high-class sharks, you avoid these clubs.
- If you read about larger upscale clubs, that offer many low service girls, but have great food and swimming pool, and you want it, you can go, if you like high service of the girls, you avoid.
- etc etc.
If it is clear in what category a club / party (treff) but also a specific girl fits, that is interesting information. To write in every post "Danger, watch out for all the AO girls in Villa Venus" is as useless as to write "Danger, watch out for all the sharks in Golden Time with low-service".)
Please respect each others choice and taste, and newbees are not naief: they read several messages about a club, and will get the picture. If they visit the club, theu see the picture in real life.[/QUOTE]Thanks for quite a sensible response. I'm not sure why certain members have taken such a harsh position, but their descriptions of the clubs and the girls do not match my experience. I have visited both Villa Venus and FKK Dietzenbach in addition to several of the large clubs like Oase and Colosseum. I enjoy both the large and small clubs.
1. When I visited Dietzenbach there were several girls who only provide with condoms and those who offer AO likewise offered condoms. Moreover, I found the girls to be quite attractive and I enjoyed the small, intimate atmosphere as a contrast to the large, busy atmosphere of Oase. Perhaps not for a long period, but for a short visit I found it to be very pleasant.
2. Villa Venus was likewise a pleasant club. In contrast to several of the descriptions below, I found that many of the girls were young, attractive and fun. They all offered condoms, though not all required their use.
I'm at a loss to figure out who Kommodore and others are trying to protect with their warning. But I would hope it wouldn't be people like me. I'm quite capable of making my own decisions based on the reviews I read by people who have actually visited the clubs. From Kommodore's description I can only conclude he has not visited the clubs.
[QUOTE=PacificRim;1430027]I'm at a loss to figure out who Kommodore and others are trying to protect with their warning. But I would hope it wouldn't be people like me. I'm quite capable of making my own decisions based on the reviews I read by people who have actually visited the clubs. From Kommodore's description I can only conclude he has not visited the clubs.[/QUOTE]You said it all.
Kommodore has not yet stated whether he actually ever visited any of the clubs he vilifies.
But the only result is to bring in every day more positive comments form people like you, who may not have posted them if he had not interfered.
I am quite sure that, instead of "protecting" people, (how arrogant and paternalistic can you be!) that is, in his views, preventing them to visit those clubs, this discussion actually incites more guys to visit! So let him be thanked for that!
[QUOTE=Captain Dan; 1429872]Sorry to hear that you are still bearing miffed about something said (written) a long time ago. I met your partner Cordelia in FKK World many moons ago and she did seem like a nice lady (perhaps a bit unconventional but nevertheless a nice lady). Anyway we may not agree on some issues but I applaud your contributions to this forum and wish you well.
CD[/QUOTE]Hi. I guess a public apology from me is in order. Thanks for your best wishes and teaching me a lesson:)
[QUOTE=Dreams;1430160]So let him be thanked for that![/QUOTE]You are most welcome :)
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[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1429989]I am not sure in which forum should be this thread. This is neither FKK nor Partytreff. They call themselves "Club Angelique". Freirercafe treats them as FKK, but I would say that this club is unique.
Only 7 girls work there. Is that enough for the thread?[/QUOTE]I don't dispute that it is possible to have a good time in these clubs particularly if your preference is for bareback sex. However none of these small specialist clubs with few girls (and in some cases girls of questionable quality) and poor facilities should be on the same level as the BIG clubs in Frankfurt, Berlin, Stuttgart etc etc. The board needs to be reorganised and these smaller specialist clubs should either get their own seperate forum or be pushed into a sub-directory off the Other FKK Clubs thread. Until then warning messages should definitely be posted.
K
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1429952]Disagree. Angelique is quite different. I heard that Angelique is owned (or at least managed) by the girls. I guess Alisa and Alina. Totally different ambiance. Better service, better girls and significantly higher price. V-Venus and Arabella can be called FKK. Angelique is more like a private club or brothel.[/QUOTE]A private club is one where membership is required for entry. ALL of the places mentioned in this forum are brothels.
It should be borne in mind that some of the girls at Angelique (including Deea and Arianna) moved there from Club la Luna, the club famous for it's 'any guy can just simply walk in off the street and participate in a 4-girl bareback sperm donor gangbang session'. So hardly classy.
I think it is helpful to just have two classification of these pay-for-play clubs. Partytreff which is flat rate and FKK where you pay per session. For FKK strictly speaking I believe the girls need to walk around naked and there needs to be sauna facilities, a wet area and so forth. However what is most important is whether you pay a flat rate or per session, everything else is just incidental.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1430345]A private club is one where membership is required for entry. ALL of the places mentioned in this forum are brothels.[/QUOTE]Agree. Brothel would be a proper definition.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1430345]It should be borne in mind that some of the girls at Angelique (including Deea and Arianna) moved there from Club la Luna, the club famous for it's 'any guy can just simply walk in off the street and participate in a 4-girl bareback sperm donor gangbang session'. So hardly classy.[/QUOTE]I did not sessioned neither with Deea nor with Arianna, so I cannot judge. I know that Deea has mixed reports on Freircafe thread. At the time I visited Viersen she worked in Dusiburg location. At my experience service level at Angelique level better than in La Luna. I believe that same girl can perform differently in different clubs depending on management and atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1430340]The board needs to be reorganised and these smaller specialist clubs should either get their own seperate forum or be pushed into a sub-directory off the Other FKK Clubs thread. Until then warning messages should definitely be posted.
K[/QUOTE]This thread is more active than many many threads dedicated to some 'classy' clubs. So why it has to pushed somewhere? And what warning message should be posted? There is a warning message on the front page. It is very clear:
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