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Today CNN ran the following headline:
Fact check: Trump denies saying another thing he said and makes more false claims at briefing.
With more than 100 days into the current pandemic, this headline is a golden oldie & plays all the time, maybe at least every other day.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2443186](My experts)" would like to have the people come off. I'd rather have the people stay, but I'the go with them. I told them to make the final decision. I would rather because I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.
Dumbass Trump on March 5, 2020.
A minute later a reporter asks Trump about disbanding the White House pandemic response team in 2018.
His answer: "I just think this is something that you can never really think is going to happen."[/QUOTE]The blame belongs to the ignorant masses who elected him and who now enable / defend him.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443331]My goodness, you really are clueless, aren't you? You seriously don't have the faintest idea whatsoever on how government works. You think Trump isn't compromised because Ukraine got American aid and weapons? You think Trump isn't compromised because the USA Slapped sanctions on Russia? Let me explain to you how it works:
Ukraine got American aid not because of Trump. It is because congress mandated it. Trump had nothing to do with it. He was powerless to stop it. He had zero legal grounds to halt it. He tried to illegally stop it and that's how he got impeached. Ukraine got aid in spite of Trump, not because of him.
And you think Russia got slapped with sanctions because of Trump? Again, it got slapped with sanctions despite Trump, not because of him. Russia got slapped with sanctions because of Congress, not Trump. If fact, Trump fought tooth and nail to lighten the sanctions.[/QUOTE]See, this is what happens when you stop at a 5th grade civics lesson. If you can't appreciate the influence Trump, or any President, has on their party, and Senators, in particular, well, take that 5th grade certificate out of your scrap book and hang it on the wall. Yes, in 5th grade, Mrs Jones told me there were separate but equal branches. LMAO.
You'll likely criticize Trump here. But how much did the GOP platform shift during Trump's reign? What do you think happens when McConnell heads to the White House? How many times has he literally said I'm not wasting time on something the President won't sign? And before you criticize Trump, it happens in every administration. How many in Congress and in the Senate try to ride the coattails of a popular President in their next election? But you are right, Mrs Jones said.
And the Russians had no involvement in the dossier? That is shockingly uninformed. Some of the most salacious lies in the dossier came from Russia. Now, I suppose we don't know who actually crafted the stories. But there was significant Russian involvement.
What's so funny is how so many people are myopic. Russian interference is the perfect example. First, the left is just shocked tht a foreign country wants to influence our election. Yet they were silent when Obama, as a sitting President, was caught red handed trying to influence Israeli elections. They scream about some of the real pro-Trump interference but ignore or don't even recognize the pro-Clinton activity. It's just another byproduct of my side vs your side politics. It's childish and small minded.
The flaw in your logic is that you have your predetermined outcome and push the facts into your box. You asked "And also, the dossier would obviously have a negative impact on Trump, so why would Trump coordinate with Russian Intelligence to fabricate something that would harm him?" You clearly ignored facts because your assumption is Russia wanted Trump. Intelligent people are more curious than that.
How did we hijack the Stupid Shit in Tijuana thread to all Trump, all the time? I miss the complaining about policia, or the insults on someone being too cheap or overpaying. LOL. We didn't talk about Trump this much when he was shutting down the border to our Disneyland.
I propose we all get together at some bar in Tijuana, knock each other silly, and then STFU about Trump. He, more than perhaps any President in our lives, has evoked more tribalism than any other President. Oddly, I don't blame him. He was not my choice. (Nor was Hillary, for the record.) I find countless flaws in him. But Trump is just the next extension of a dangerous road we've been on, politically, since the late 90's. My larger point, I am comfortable that nothing I say on this hooker board is going to change opinions on Trump. The word Trump alone omits an emotional reaction. He has his fans and I think his 5th Avenue shooting comment is accurate for many of them. But there are probably even more that would hate the man if he saved the world from extinction, just because.
The internet does not lack for outlets to discuss politics. I only say this because we are tearing at each other, in a personal way over Donald Freaking Trump. Personally, I don't care. You all can hate me and it's no sweat off my balls. LOL But I do think we should stay on topic a bit more. God knows we all probably just need to get laid more often and we wouldn't be so cranky.
[QUOTE=Jackflash4;2443403]The blame belongs to the ignorant masses who elected him and who now enable / defend him.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.
They are embarrassed by dumbass Trumps foolishness.
And can't stand to have that shown.
On April 14, Governor Antonio Echevarra Garca of Nayarit said he wanted to close the state's borders to visitors from Jalisco and Sinaloa, noting that young, apparently healthy people from other areas have visited their elderly relatives in the state. Why son las personas que han fallecido y estas personas que vienen del otro lado traen el virus, no presentan ningand sntoma why hacen la contaminadera, ("And they are the people who have died and these people who come from the other side bring the virus, do not present any symptoms and cause the contamination") said Echevarra.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443493]See, this is what happens when you stop at a 5th grade civics lesson. If you can't appreciate the influence Trump, or any President, has on their party, and Senators, in particular, well, take that 5th grade certificate out of your scrap book and hang it on the wall. Yes, in 5th grade, Mrs Jones told me there were separate but equal branches. LMAO.
You'll likely criticize Trump here. But how much did the GOP platform shift during Trump's reign? What do you think happens when McConnell heads to the White House? How many times has he literally said I'm not wasting time on something the President won't sign? And before you criticize Trump, it happens in every administration. How many in Congress and in the Senate try to ride the coattails of a popular President in their next election? But you are right, Mrs Jones said.[/QUOTE]Russia had no involvement at all in the dossier. You are literally the only person in the entire world claiming this. Trump, the Russians, Mueller, Republicans, Democrats, all never once claimed Russia had any involvement in it. It was compiled by an ex-Mi6 agent. That is universally acknowledged. It contains information from Russians, but as far as compiling it, Russia had no direct involvement.
And you actually thought Trump happily slapped sanctions on Russia and armed the Ukrainians voluntarily? Utterly laughable! You think the government is the President and nothing else. They teach about Congress and the Supreme Court in like, what, 2nd grade? How were you not aware of this? No matter the reason, your credibility is destroyed. I will no longer debate this topic with someone who does not possess even the most rudimentary knowledge of American government.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443612]Russia had no involvement at all in the dossier. You are literally the only person in the entire world claiming this.[/QUOTE]It is true that Dcrist0527 is the only person I have ever seen or heard to assert that the Russian government had involvement in creating that dossier.
But he is just one of many people I have seen that try to twist and contort on issues to lamely attempt to defend numerous piles of shit dumbass Trump has excremented.
And then disingenuously try to shelter himself from the responses by claiming he is not a supporter of the Donald.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443612]Russia had no involvement at all in the dossier. You are literally the only person in the entire world claiming this. Trump, the Russians, Mueller, Republicans, Democrats, all never once claimed Russia had any involvement in it. It was compiled by an ex-Mi6 agent. That is universally acknowledged. It contains information from Russians, but as far as compiling it, Russia had no direct involvement.
And you actually thought Trump happily slapped sanctions on Russia and armed the Ukrainians voluntarily? Utterly laughable! You think the government is the President and nothing else. They teach about Congress and the Supreme Court in like, what, 2nd grade? How were you not aware of this? No matter the reason, your credibility is destroyed. I will no longer debate this topic with someone who does not possess even the most rudimentary knowledge of American government.[/QUOTE]This is the most bizarre reply. In the same paragraph, you say Russia had no involvement. And then you say Russians contributed to it. OK.
Then, my post talked of the relationship between two branches of government and then you claim I think the government doesn't have a legislative body?
No, no desire to debate with someone who just spews out the same old lines. Russia, Russia, Russia. An exhaustive review by Mueller and others failed to prove collusion. But hey, ClamSlammer knows better. He knows Trump is a Russian agent. Now that's laughable.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443684]This is the most bizarre reply. In the same paragraph, you say Russia had no involvement. And then you say Russians contributed to it. OK.[/QUOTE]You must have a severe reading comprehension problem.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443684]No, no desire to debate[/QUOTE]Then please STFU, as you disingeniously keep promissing to do. You are embarrassing yourself!
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2443613]It is true that Dcrist0527 is the only person I have ever seen or heard to assert that the Russian government had involvement in creating that dossier.
But he is just one of many people I have seen that try to twist and contort on issues to lamely attempt to defend numerous piles of shit dumbass Trump has excremented.
And then disingenuously try to shelter himself from the responses by claiming he is not a supporter of the Donald.[/QUOTE]Perfect example! Those suffering from TDS cannot even fathom that others have the capability of looking at the world outside of Donald Trump. What is disingenuous is twisting and contorting the story that 'Trump wants to date a 10 year old,' Or Trump is a Russian agent. If you have to resort to tactics like that, even though your TDS doesn't allow you to see it, you lost. Facts matter. Those can't be contorted. At least not in sound minds. But we seem to be running low on them.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443684]This is the most bizarre reply. In the same paragraph, you say Russia had no involvement. And then you say Russians contributed to it. OK.
Then, my post talked of the relationship between two branches of government and then you claim I think the government doesn't have a legislative body?
No, no desire to debate with someone who just spews out the same old lines. Russia, Russia, Russia. An exhaustive review by Mueller and others failed to prove collusion. But hey, ClamSlammer knows better. He knows Trump is a Russian agent. Now that's laughable.[/QUOTE]Now, along with your profound misunderstanding of how the United States government is structured, you are now displaying your ineptitude with the English language.
#1 I said Russia had no involvement in COMPILING the dossier. Some of the dossier was based on Russian sources. But Russia had no hand in compiling the dossier. There is a difference.
#2 You proved you have no real knowledge of how powers are divided upon the branches of government by the Constitution. Your assertion that Trump happily armed the Ukrainians and sanctioned Russia is utterly laughable and is irrefutable evidence that you don't have a clue on how government works.
#3 I never said Trump is a Russian agent. I said he is a Russian asset. So you're dead wrong again. You seem to be on quite a streak. There is a huge difference between an agent and asset. You don't seem to know this.
#4 As far as collusion. Who knows? Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. Just because Mueller didn't uncover evidence doesn't mean they didn't do it. I'm sure they tried to hide it the best they could, if indeed they did collude. They surely would have destroyed evidence and hidden their tracks as best as they could. But they certainly tried to collude. The Trump Tower meeting is proof. 3 top senior advisers Manefort, Kushner and Don the Con Jr were there to discuss adoptions? Please. They were there to collude with Russians for help in the campaign.
So realistically, your points #1-#3 are undoubtedly false. #4 is debatable. So you're dead wrong at a 75% clip. Pretty impressive.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443748]Perfect example! Those suffering from TDS cannot even fathom that others have the capability of looking at the world outside of Donald Trump. What is disingenuous is twisting and contorting the story that 'Trump wants to date a 10 year old,' [/QUOTE]Show me where I said that.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443748]Or Trump is a Russian agent. [/QUOTE]Show me where I said that, putz.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443748]If you have to resort to tactics like that, even though your TDS doesn't allow you to see it, you lost. [/QUOTE]Since I said neither, you're the big loser.
Quit embarrassing yourself & STFU like you promised. It will be best for all.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2443497]God knows we all probably just need to get laid more often and we wouldn't be so cranky.[/QUOTE]Amen! More fucking, less political talk.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2443752]Now, along with your profound misunderstanding of how the United States government is structured, you are now displaying your ineptitude with the English language.
#1 I said Russia had no involvement in COMPILING the dossier. Some of the dossier was based on Russian sources. But Russia had no hand in compiling the dossier. There is a difference.
#2 You proved you have no real knowledge of how powers are divided upon the branches of government by the Constitution. Your assertion that Trump happily armed the Ukrainians and sanctioned Russia is utterly laughable and is irrefutable evidence that you don't have a clue on how government works.
#3 I never said Trump is a Russian agent. I said he is a Russian asset. So you're dead wrong again. You seem to be on quite a streak. There is a huge difference between an agent and asset. You don't seem to know this.
#4 As far as collusion. Who knows? Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. Just because Mueller didn't uncover evidence doesn't mean they didn't do it. I'm sure they tried to hide it the best they could, if indeed they did collude. They surely would have destroyed evidence and hidden their tracks as best as they could. But they certainly tried to collude. The Trump Tower meeting is proof. 3 top senior advisers Manefort, Kushner and Don the Con Jr were there to discuss adoptions? Please. They were there to collude with Russians for help in the campaign.
So realistically, your points #1-#3 are undoubtedly false. #4 is debatable. So you're dead wrong at a 75% clip. Pretty impressive.[/QUOTE]You know what, you're right. On all counts. I see the light now. ClamSlammer has changed my outlook on life. From this day forward, I will strive to be more like him.
I've learned now that if I just keep repeating drivel over and over, it becomes true. Magic. How have I lived this long without the knowledge imparted here? Hopefully, having such a simple mind will bring me happiness too.