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Entertainers or party consultants are available in some casino bars. They can be booked for 2 Benjamin for an hour off the clock. I will give the bar that I know of in a private message. I talked to one guy who booked with them and was satisfied with the entertainment. I have personally talked to 2 of them and they are 7 to 8 and speak English.
[QUOTE=Mean Mike]Guys if you don't speak spanish this may be good advice but if you are even conversational take this guy with a grain of salt. He is a bit paranoid.[/quote]Yes I've only lived in PR for 23 years, what do I know?
[quote] I am an American who is bastante fluente en espanol, I LIVED three blocks south of Frenchies and 2 blocks from Blue Marlin. I spent plenty of time there, the girls are a bit agressive but they wont rob you there...but DONT be stupid and take extra cash down there...my advice is to get to know the people a bit and go during the daytime at least to shop around...dont just show up at night and wander and yeah PR has little regard for the life of the poor but Americans dont die down there.[/quote]Tell that to the 3 sailors who got drunk and started trouble with the folks of Lucky Seven then got their heads beaten in. But your right they didnt die, they just had to eat through a straw for about a year. How do i know this? Because i was working at a radio station and we had to cover the story for the CBS news feed. Why dont you tell them to wear nice watches and paint bulleyes on their foreheads while your at it?
[quote] The police are constantly patrolling those areas and they dont stop unless there is violence going on.[/quote]The police only patrol the main roads not the side streets where these places are located. The only street they used to go down was the famouse street walker street to try to catch folks in the act. The patrols of the other side streets are not very often.
[quote]But as usual the snake is more scared of you than you are of it. So polish your Spanish and go there during the day and you will have fun.[/QUOTE]Dont play with snakes or your lible to get bitten. Especially now that santurce is getting only more violent with each passing month.
Made a trip to Puerto Rico the second week of March. Just happen to drive by the Condom World and remembered the photograph posted here.
A couple of doors down from Condom World was a door that looked like it led to an upstairs of a store front. It had a guard stationed at the door and although the sign was in Spanish and I don’t understand Spanish it would appear it had a sexy tone.
Anyone know what that could have been up there? I am planning a trip in the fall and am curious.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Reality]Yes I've only lived in PR for 23 years, what do I know?
Tell that to the 3 sailors who got drunk and started trouble with the folks of Lucky Seven then got their heads beaten in. But your right they didnt die, they just had to eat through a straw for about a year. How do i know this? Because i was working at a radio station and we had to cover the story for the CBS news feed. Why dont you tell them to wear nice watches and paint bulleyes on their foreheads while your at it?
The police only patrol the main roads not the side streets where these places are located. The only street they used to go down was the famouse street walker street to try to catch folks in the act. The patrols of the other side streets are not very often.
Dont play with snakes or your lible to get bitten. Especially now that santurce is getting only more violent with each passing month.[/QUOTE]You can live in a country like Puerto Rico as long as you want in a glass house. It is easy when there is no middle class. Santurce is also known as a middle class neighborhood by Latin American standards. Perhaps you are a closet facist who does not believe in the middle class and that is why you are preaching this way about Santurce and problems that dont have to exist.
Tip: when you are in a foriegn country (or anyone else's house) do get drunk if invited but DO NOT start trouble afterwards. Be prepared to realize you are outnumbered if you can obey no other logic. No one can save you from your own stupidity. Even if Puerto Rico CAN be dangerous.
My advice was not to act like a target, or even think like a target. These must be your tactics.
Have seen them come down that street more than once.
Careful what you call a snake. That's all I was trying to say.
[QUOTE=Member #3880]Perhaps you are a closet facist who does not believe in the middle class and that is why you are preaching this way about Santurce and problems that dont have to exist.[/quote]I lived in Bayamon for 20 years, which is a middle class town, so dont lecture me on social class. If you dont belive me on the problems of santurce, just open up any paper or turn on the tv durring the news. If anything i could accuse you of being faccist, you said americans dont get killed, so what you dont think puertoricans are american? we have the same rights as you do ad citizenship. But i wont because I have never met you and it would be wrong to make a personal remark about someone you have never met.
[quote]My advice was not to act like a target, or even think like a target. These must be your tactics. [/quote]No your advice was that Americans cannot be killed. Which was stupid, now your backpeddeling. My advice was to have caution and know the area you are going into and what areas are high on crime. That area is one of them. You dont agree thats fine but dont tell them that they can walk down ANY steet in PR flashing money, not paying attention to their surrondings, with a target painted on their heads and not expect nothing to happen just because they are tourists.
Anyone can die anywhere. No shit. If you are cool and learn conversational Spanish in Puerto Rico, I feel you can basically have a good time and do what you want. I do not think that PR is overly dangerous, particularly for a Latin American populous. I understand there ARE safer areas, but if you are cool and, sure, dont flash money, blah, blah, blah basic common sense, then yeah, Santurce is basically as safe as anywhere else. But I do stress knowing Spanish and the people. Americans, or anyone else, who go over there just to monger with little knowledge or interest in the culture should take the precautions I spoke about in my first post on this topic. My main concern is that you are oversensationalizing how hard it is to get along with Puerto Ricans, and the danger of the situation. No suprise that you are in the media. If you want to tell someone not to go somewhere, do it to Haiti. Santurce is OK. Be careful. And yes, I am well aware of PR's status as part of the US Commonwealth. It is mostly this aspect that makes it so attractive to a guy like me. Peace.
I agree with Reality. Santurce is quite dangerous. Almost my entire family is from Puerto Rico and I have been traveling to the island since I was a kid. Eveyone knows Santurce is dangerous like every New Yorker knows that East New York is dangerous. If I asked any member of my family if Santurce is dangerous they would laugh in my face because it is so obvious that it is. Most third world nations have a middle and upper class. To think otherwise is ridiculous. Puerto Rico is the same. There are parts of Puerto Rico that are extremely poor like there are poor sections of the United States that would put a third world nation to shame. If you do not believe me check out the Appalachia region. Studies on this region time and time again have shown this to be true so what I say is not just an opinion. Fortunately, there have been efforts to improve the situation. If you still have doubts about the dangers of Puerto Rico check out La Perla, in the capital. Some areas in third world nations are safer than this place. Reality is 100% correct. His is not just opinion but he knows from experience and facts. He is also quite a level headed person when it comes to understanding situations. If you do not believe me check out his posts. They are grounded in experience and facts.
I grew up in Puerto Rico. Santurce have some bad areas Every country in the world have bad areas and good areas so I don't think Santurce its worst than other big cities like Lima or Buenos Aires. You just have to be careful. I had been in the Blue Marlin and Frenchies and never have any problems.
Take care and be safe
Well I was born and raised in NY lived there for 25 yrs so I know all about the point in the bronx. Now I reside in Puerto Rico been here for about 3 yrs I live in Arroyo right next to manuabo and ponce let me start with ponce, that town has changed so much now that the new mayor is there alot of the streets where street walkers where are now closed off so easy access to streets is a pain in the ass but there are bars in that area that alot of the girls work unfortunately due to the police sweeps in that part of the town alot of the girls have been arrested and most of the girls are crack addicts, what you have now at one bar is alot of transsexuals and where all the action used to be is near the bus station and market place. Now all of that has changed as far as ponce I have been to mayaguez and they have some spots but like every where else they are all drug addicts including the transsexuals. I have been to santurce and have to say compare to alot of other spots it is not that bad, San juan is mostly alot of transsexuals that are semi clean and the girl girls look like 2's and 4's in my opinnion. The transexxual girls look better than real girls but it is difficult when you are a straight guy like my self to see!! Cause there are no hot girl girls around. And as far as clubs go here are the names of some clubs
Candie's Hormigueros, Puerto Rico
Candie's Moca, Puerto Rico
Cheeta's San Juan, Puerto Rico
Dancers Ponce, Puerto Rico
Deja Vu San Juan, Puerto Rico
Divas San Juan, Puerto Rico
El Alcázar Isabela, Puerto Rico
Frenchies San Juan, Puerto Rico
Le Club San Juan, Puerto Rico
Mangus Men's Club Dorado, Puerto Rico
New Millenium Mayagüez, Puerto Rico
Playmate Mayagüez, Puerto Rico
Playmate Ponce, Puerto Rico
San Tropez San Juan, Puerto Rico
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Enjoy and stay safe use them condoms
Just got back from another trip to PR and wanted to post some general info for those who will be in country for the first time. I'm a Gringo that spent a few years living there.
The drinking age in PR is 18.The age of consent in PR is 14. It is also the rum capital of the world and some bars never close. Gambling is also legal and there are several very nice casino/hotels in San Juan.
When it comes to getting laid in PR I think the best bet are the nice Casino hotels. There you'll meet both independent operators and plenty of Puerto Rican ladies with diamonds in their eyes looking to meet a Gringo. You'll need to dress the part and wear a suit or sports coat (don't worry the casinos are always air conditioned) At least this has been my experience, as there are still a ton of women on the island where being a gringo gets you half way there. Of course you're still required to close the deal on your own terms.
The traditional P4P outlets (i.e. Strip Clubs and Massage Parlors) can be very disappointing. First the Strip Clubs are generally way overpriced, stocked with mediocre girls, in dangerous areas, and most of the ladies are not interested in P4P rather just scamming you at the club.
There are plenty of areas that should be avoided at night. One needs to remember that there are over 80 competing cocaine cartels working on the island. PR is a large transshipping point for it. The murder rate is higher than anywhere in the U.S. and the police response is not where it should be.
As for the Massage Parlors there can be a few gems here but the problem is they close frequently and you have to be very capable in Spanish as some are just massage and some are massage plus. The women are usually Dominican, who many Puerto Ricans treat worse than 2nd Class Citizens.
Politically, PR is a "Free Associated State of the U.S.", the closest thing that the U.S. has to a Commonwealth. What that means is that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens but that they can't vote in U.S. federal elections if they reside on the island (Except for presidential primaries). They also don't pay any Federal income tax but they do pay plenty of PR income tax.
The U.S. won PR from Spain in 1898. One famous quotation said, "That the U.S. was interested in the cage and not the birds." Meaning that the U.S. wanted the ability to project power in the Caribbean.
There is very little U.S. military presence currently on the island. Both the bombing ranges on the island of Culebra and Vieques have been closed and recently the largest Naval base, Roosevelt Roads has also been shut down. The only two small bases left are Fort Buchanan (a small Army post) and an even smaller Puerto Rican National Guard Base.
The debates over statehood, independence, and current free associated state status will continue. Just remember that currently the 60% of people on the island receives some form of welfare. The amount of the checks are capped by Congress due to the Free Associated State status. Statehood would mean that the checks would increase in their amount, Independence would mean that they would cease, and continued status means that the checks still keep coming but that you still get to send your own candidate to Miss Universe and your own PR Olympic team...
Feel free to PM me for any specific questions.
Just got back from another trip to PR and wanted to post some general info for those who will be first time visitors to the island.
The Good News:
The drinking age in PR is 18.The legal age of consent in PR is 14. It is also the rum capital of the world and some bars never close. Gambling is also legal and there are several very nice casino/hotels in San Juan.
When it comes to getting laid in PR I think the best bet are the nice Casino hotels. There you'll meet both independent operators and plenty of Puerto Rican ladies with diamonds in their eyes looking to meet a Gringo. You'll need to dress the part and wear a suit or sports coat (don't worry the casinos are always air conditioned) At least this has been my experience, as there are still a ton of women on the island where being a gringo gets you half way there. Of course you're still required to close the deal on your own terms.
The Bad News:
The traditional P4P outlets (i.e. Strip Clubs and Massage Parlors) can be very disappointing. First, the Strip Clubs are generally overpriced, stocked with mediocre girls, in dangerous areas, and many of the better looking ladies are not interested in P4P rather just milking you at the club.
There are plenty of areas that should be avoided at night. One needs to remember that there are over 80 competing cocaine cartels working on the island. PR is a large transshippment point for it. The murder rate is higher than anywhere in the U.S. and one should be extra careful in many of the poorer areas.
As for the Massage Parlors there can be a few gems here but the problem is they close frequently and you have to be very capable in Spanish as some are just massage and some are massage plus. The women are usually Dominican, who many Puerto Ricans treat worse than 2nd Class Citizens.
Politically, PR is a "Free Associated State of the U.S.", the closest thing that the U.S. has to a Commonwealth. What that means is that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens but that they can't vote in U.S. federal elections if they reside on the island (Except for presidential primaries). They also don't pay any Federal income tax but they do pay plenty of PR income tax.
The U.S. won PR from Spain in 1898. One famous quotation said, "That the U.S. was interested in the cage and not the birds." Meaning that the U.S. wanted the ability to project power in the Caribbean.
There is very little U.S. military presence currently on the island. Both the bombing ranges on the island of Culebra and Vieques have been closed and recently the largest Naval base, Roosevelt Roads has also been shut down. The only two small bases left are Fort Buchanan (a small Army post) and an even smaller Puerto Rican National Guard Base.
The debates over statehood, independence, and current free associated state status will continue. Just remember that currently the 60% of people on the island receives some form of welfare. The amount of the checks are capped by Congress due to the Free Associated State status. Statehood would mean that the checks would increase in their amount, Independence would mean that they would cease, and continued status means that the checks still keep coming but that you still get to send your own candidate to Miss Universe and your own PR Olympic team...
Hey Bronx Monger here,
I am going to be in PR the end of June and would like to see whats is going on there . I do not want to take a mortage out to find something and would rather see whats going on. Let me know and if any of you are in NYC I will be happy to help you with what I know there.
Thanks
Bx Loco
[QUOTE=Perry Mason #1]
When it comes to getting laid in PR I think the best bet are the nice Casino hotels. There you'll meet both independent operators and plenty of Puerto Rican ladies with diamonds in their eyes looking to meet a Gringo. You'll need to dress the part and wear a suit or sports coat (don't worry the casinos are always air conditioned) At least this has been my experience, as there are still a ton of women on the island where being a gringo gets you half way there. Of course you're still required to close the deal on your own terms.[/quote]HAHAHA! Oh your serious?! Well first off your going to be paying throught the nose for a hooker who is working the casinos or more acuratly casino bars. Expect 300 dollars and up.
As for Boricua ladies looking for gringos, you are sadly mistaken. Let me tell you all about the local ladies and what they are looking for. First off Puertorican ladies are a pain in the ass. They are high mantanience horses but if your lucky to land one the benifits are incredible. If you are overweight and are not blessed with an incredible sense of hummor, head to the massage parlor. If you dont like to splurge on your ladie then head to the massage parlor. If you dont have a back bone and have never been in a fist fight then head to a massage parlor.
Puertorican ladies like to feel like they are protected. They like to feel like they will be taken care of both physically and economically, they like romance but dont go overboard, they like men who are hard to get but not ignored, they want a man they can show off to their girlfriends. Its all about balance. So if you dont feel like putting in the time into scoring with one of these fine ladies then dont bother. Oh and forget about 50 year old hooking up with a 25 year old. Go to Dominican Rep or Costa Rica if your looking for a young latina.
If you are serious about trying out the Non-Pro scene here are a few hot spots.
Old San Juan. OSJ is the pretty much were all the young college crowd goes to get drunk and play pool, youll find a wide array of bohemians, young preppies, rockers and some hip hop crowd. Your best bet to get in the groove of things is heading to OSJ, One word of advice though, dont attempt to drive into OSJ tge trafic is horrible, just hop into a cab and youll find another to head out.
Piniones (Pen-Neo-n-ehs) This is the were allot of Dominicans and college kids go to drink beer, eat fried food, and dance to Bachata or Merenge and Salsa Music on the beach, If you have a car i recomend driving in or making arrangements to be picked up by a cab since there are no cabs in the area.
Night Clubs
Probably the only night club i recomend is El Theatro, its probably the most popular night club in PR right now, plays allot of techno and american hip hop and they also have different themes on some nights. So be sure to ask the bouncer what their playing that night because you never know when its "gays only night"
Places to avoid.
Condado - Being as its the center of the gay comunity of PR i would avoid Condado if i were you, not to mention everything is overpriced there anyway with it being the most expensive property and comunity in PR.
Isla Verde - Mostly a tourist trap, All you are going to find there are more gringas, young rich preppy people, droves of couples looking for a romantic evening together.
[quote]The Bad News:
The traditional P4P outlets (i.e. Strip Clubs and Massage Parlors) can be very disappointing. First, the Strip Clubs are generally overpriced, stocked with mediocre girls, in dangerous areas, and many of the better looking ladies are not interested in P4P rather just milking you at the club. [/quote]Did you not read my post on the mongering scene in PR? God people Divas and Santrope are not the only strip clubs in PR! Jesus H Christ! And the mayority of the strip clubs are in safe areas.
[quote]There are plenty of areas that should be avoided at night. One needs to remember that there are over 80 competing cocaine cartels working on the island. PR is a large transshippment point for it. The murder rate is higher than anywhere in the U.S. and one should be extra careful in many of the poorer areas.[/quote]This is such an exageration, its not such a large jumping off points to the states Dominican Rep and Venezuela are the two main pipelines into the US drug trade, weve made allot of progress on the war against crime and i recent you ensenuating that its like open warfare on the streets of PR. Sure there are areas that you shouldnt go into (Parts of Santurce and Bayamon come to mind) But they are far away from the scenes and unless your blind and stupid you wont be anywhere near those areas.
[quote]As for the Massage Parlors there can be a few gems here but the problem is they close frequently and you have to be very capable in Spanish as some are just massage and some are massage plus. The women are usually Dominican, who many Puerto Ricans treat worse than 2nd Class Citizens.[/quote]Altenative Massage has been open for 5 years now and Pure Moods going on 8, not to mention more and more massage parlors open everyday i really cant keep up. Your assement of the knowlege of spanish as a pure nececity is a crock of #@$@#. 3 out of 5 massage parlors will have someone in charge that speaks the language considering that gringos are the main clients to the parlors most local mongers preffer to travel to DR to sastify their needs since DR is far cheaper than PR will ever be. As for Dominicans being treated badly by Puertoricans thats really uncalled for, consider that 40% of dominicans on the island are illegal immagrents who cant apply for the same jobs as legal dominicans can so their options are working at jobs for minimum wage usually manual labor or falling into the temptation to crime. Every year we get more and more Dominicans risking their lives to get to PR, trying to escape the corrupt and abusive Dominican Rep goverment that suffers no ill will from the United States goverment.
[quote]The debates over statehood, independence, and current free associated state status will continue. Just remember that currently the 60% of people on the island receives some form of welfare. The amount of the checks are capped by Congress due to the Free Associated State status. Statehood would mean that the checks would increase in their amount, Independence would mean that they would cease, and continued status means that the checks still keep coming but that you still get to send your own candidate to Miss Universe and your own PR Olympic team...[/QUOTE]PR gets 3 Billion from the USA every years, if statehood would be applied PR would get more federal funding but the downside to this is that we would also get federal taxes and an increse in property tax. Indepence is not a viable option considering that only 7% of the population is pro-indepence the rest is stuck in a stalemate between status quo and statehood.
The US Goverment does not have any interest in Puerto Rico becoming a state considering that a) we would become a swing state b) and far importantly the main source of income in Puerto Rico are pharmacuticals, the reason is they get huge tax breaks for operating in PR due to its Comonwealth status, not to mention cheaper labor since we operate at a slightly lower pay than people in the states. Most jobs dont go over 7 or 8 dollars an hour and these are proffesional jobs. The PR workforce is more focused on benifits than increased pay. If we would become a state the corparate business would suffer.
WOW!
Thankfully, the casinos are not just filled with rich gringos and $300 *****s. Actually there are plenty of Jeebaros(country-folk) who have come down from the hills to have fun in San Juan. Plenty of these ladies in the 27-35 age group go the Casinos to party. It has been my experience that if you have a little game and can communicate in Spanish they are more than willing to have a one night stand with a pimped out Gringo.
I agree that Old San Juan is a great place to party. Yet the crowd tends to be younger and local and more interested in drinking. I'm sure you'll agree that the ladies from San Juan proper are of a different cut of cloth. Old San Juan is a great place to get tanked and to be seen not to find a local one night stand...
Piniones? You think this is a good place for a Gringo to find local women? This place is great for a beach jaunt during the day but it is a different story at night. Sure there is that one Argentinian owned beach bar that sometimes has a good party going on but the rest of that area is not advised for Gringo revelers. First, it is a Regga-tone (that crappy-ass spanish gansta rap) heavy music scene which means every young, wanna-be, drug dealing punk is there and packing heat to prove it. Locals? Again, if not at the Argentinian bar are probably not the kind you want to meet.
I've spent plenty of time there both during the day and in the evening and it is also where I've seen the post gun-play, shootings, and slowest police response time.
You're right that both Condado and Isla Verde are tourist traps but there are also some great local heavy bars and clubs in each area. Additionaly, how is Old San Juan not toursity?
Your assessment of Puerto Rican women is also way off base. If anything you describe some New-Yorkian based sterotype of low level trash. You've been watching too much West Side Story...
Regarding the Crime Overview, I also agree that San Juan is not Baghdad! But nevertheless one needs to take care.
"Once again, Puerto Rico–with a population of 4 million–ended the year with an alarming homicide rate, higher than the three-largest cities in the mainland U.S. With 790 murders reported during 2004, the island had a higher murder rate than New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.
For the third-consecutive year, the number of murders in New York City (total population 8 million) has been under 600, ending 2004 with 571 murders, 25 less than in 2003. Los Angeles (total population 4 million) reported 511 murders and, for the first time in four decades, Chicago’s (total population 3 million) homicide rate fell below 500 to 445, a 25% decrease compared to 2003.
Puerto Rico’s mean homicide rate is three times that of the total U.S. mainland and four times that of Europe. More than 60% of homicides on the island are linked to drug trafficking although sources within the Puerto Rico Police Department say the percentage may be as high as 75%.Yet, over 60% of all murders in PR are drug related."
WOW!
Thankfully, the casinos are not just filled with rich gringos and $300 *****s. Actually there are plenty of Jeebaros(country-folk) who have come down from the hills to have fun in San Juan. Plenty of these ladies in the 27-35 age group go the Casinos to party. It has been my experience that if you have a little game and can communicate in Spanish they are more than willing to have a one night stand with a pimped out Gringo.
I agree that Old San Juan is a great place to party. Yet the crowd tends to be younger and local and more interested in drinking. I'm sure you'll agree that the ladies from San Juan proper are of a different cut of cloth. Old San Juan is a great place to get tanked and to be seen not to find a local one night stand...
Piniones? You think this is a good place for a Gringo to find local women? This place is great for a beach jaunt during the day but it is a different story at night. Sure there is that one Argentinian owned beach bar that sometimes has a good party going on but the rest of that area is not advised for Gringo revelers. First, it is a Regga-tone (that crappy-ass spanish gansta rap) heavy music scene which means every young, wanna-be, drug dealing punk is there and packing heat to prove it. Locals? Again, if not at the Argentinian bar are probably not the kind you want to meet.
I've spent plenty of time there both during the day and in the evening and it is also where I've seen the post gun-play, shootings, and slowest police response time.
You're right that both Condado and Isla Verde are tourist traps but there are also some great local heavy bars and clubs in each area. Additionaly, how is Old San Juan not toursity?
Your assessment of Puerto Rican women is also way off base. If anything you describe some New-Yorkian based sterotype of low level trash. You've been watching too much West Side Story...
Regarding the Crime Overview, I also agree that San Juan is not Baghdad! But nevertheless one needs to take care.
"Once again, Puerto Rico–with a population of 4 million–ended the year with an alarming homicide rate, higher than the three-largest cities in the mainland U.S. With 790 murders reported during 2004, the island had a higher murder rate than New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.
For the third-consecutive year, the number of murders in New York City (total population 8 million) has been under 600, ending 2004 with 571 murders, 25 less than in 2003. Los Angeles (total population 4 million) reported 511 murders and, for the first time in four decades, Chicago’s (total population 3 million) homicide rate fell below 500 to 445, a 25% decrease compared to 2003.
Puerto Rico’s mean homicide rate is three times that of the total U.S. mainland and four times that of Europe. More than 60% of homicides on the island are linked to drug trafficking although sources within the Puerto Rico Police Department say the percentage may be as high as 75%. Yet, over 60% of all murders in PR are drug related."