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Short trip report
I checked in at the Le Meridian on a Wednesday on my 3rd trip to Jakarta. In the evening I headed downstairs to Tiga Pulah (in the hotel) and noticed that Ladies Night was on Tuesday, the night before. The nightclub was not well-attended and there were perhaps 10 girls there and fewer guys. Basically dead.
After drinking up my G&T I headed to the second bar on my shortlist, CJs in Hotel Mulia. Wednesday was Ladies Night there and the place was rocking and packed! What an improvement over Tiga Puluh (though it may be the other way around on Tuesdays?). I got a beer and within minutes chatted up 2 women dancing in front of the stage where a live band was playing. CJs is a classy bar/disco, with nice interior and layout.
It seems the hotspots change every day of the week. On my next trip I would fancy going to the bar with Ladies Night each night. Does anyone have this weekly schedule - best places to go by day of the week?
The lady I picked up at CJs was petite and slim. Won't reveal her name but it's the woman with the perfect Julia Roberts smile. She told me every guy comments that she has a smile like Pretty Woman.
In another part of town, Mangga Besar 7, I was looking forward to going to Bintang Mawar again but it had closed down. The place opposite the street, Sierra, was disappointing.
There is still much to explore in JKT.
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In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I sometimes wonder how its done on the porno videos. If all these women claim it hurts them a lot, I can only wonder on the pornos where there are these super long guys ramming it hard into the ladies.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)
[QUOTE=Smoothy]Those experiences you have described in the Philippines with anal and threesomes is exactly the same as you will find in Thailand and Indonesia.
If you want a great, no inhibitions at all - threesome, go to the Eden Club in Bangkok. Those girls will always make sure you leave happy. They are more than willing to strap on dildos and go at each other or do whatever you like for your hour and a half.
Other than Eden club, threesomes where the girls are uninhibited are quite hard to find. While it's a piece of cake in any of the 3 countries to get 2 ladies to come home with you, it's difficult to get them to be uninhibited. Like you say, you need to get to know the girls for a while and let them become comfortable with you before they will be uninhibited with anal and/or threesomes.
I have only been to Angeles City in the Philippines, never Manila. But of the girls I took there, I found them to be less inhibited than most girls I've met in Thailand or Indonesia. I'm sure that was luck of the draw though. I believe I just happened across some very naughty ones there in AC.[/QUOTE]
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Ass Fucking 101
GoodTimes, Here is my recommendation for how to handle a girl if you want to go anal. You first have to lube their ass up good before ramming your cock in there. Anal sex shouldn't hurt them as long as you prep them well first. If I'm inclined to go anal on a girl, I'll oil up their ass good with my finger first, then with a well oiled small dildo (if available) before I go in there with my cock. Once I begin anal penetration, I will take it very slowly inching in bit by bit, pulling back to lube up more with each bit. After they adjust to my cock in their ass, I can bang away. The girls won't normally complain if they think you aren't going to hurt them. If you want to just ram your cock in there without the prep, they will complain basically every time.
I've found that if you make sure to do it right (as mentioned above), the girls will end up loving anal and actually request it. Most of them are scared however, because they've encounted men who want to just ram it in there and it hurts them so they don't want that experience again.
Sometimes it takes a few times with a girl before she'll trust you to go anal on her anyway.
If you are taking the hard core girls like the Eden Club girls or the girls in the knock shops (where you have bargained with the mama san up front to guarantee the girl will do anal before you go in there), you will be allowed to go anal anyway. But those girls are normally used to anal and will likely make sure they lube themselves up before you go in.
If anyone else has any other suggestions on this subject, please feel free. I'd be interested to hear some other takes.
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[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I sometimes wonder how its done on the porno videos. If all these women claim it hurts them a lot, I can only wonder on the pornos where there are these super long guys ramming it hard into the ladies.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)[/QUOTE]
If you're an anal enthusiast you're mongering on the wrong Continent. You need to make your way down to South America. That's the Continent for assfucking. Asia is not. The girls will more often agree to it there, unlesss of course you're walking around with a Pringles can hanging between your legs. If that's the case you'll probably encounter alot more resistance. Sorry that's just the way it is.
On the subject of AC girls not allowing threesomes. If you want a better sexual experience in AC you should forget about the dancers and barfine the older waitresses. Preferably over 25 because they usually turn out to be much more uninhibited and much less introverted than the younger ones. they will be more keen on the idea of threesomes and your chances of finding that elusive three-holer will increase, but it will still be somewhat low among that ilk. The sexual skills of the Filipina have been grossly overstated in my opinion. And AC is over-hyped as a top mongering spot I'm sorry to say.
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Anal
Another monger and I, recently mentioned Cici of jalan Industri 9-11, room 19, for anal action and threesomes. Let Cici choose the second girl and you will be guaranteed a threesome like you want it, GT2.
Let me also warn you about this girl, Kenny, at Bintang Mawar. Downstairs in the bar, she promised anal action. However, when I told her after the foreplay to lay down on her belly, she refused. She only allowed me to enter her ass-hole in missionary position. She even refused to bend her legs backwards over her head, to make a deep penetration possible. So all I've got inside her, was the tip of my prick. To make things worse, she also wanted me to come outside her.
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[QUOTE=Menteng]To make things worse, she also wanted me to come outside her.[/QUOTE]
That's a weird one, bro Menteng. Why would she care if you are cumming while inside her? It's just going to end up in the condom anyway. These girls have some strange fetishes.
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I think AC is overrated too. The only reason why I went so many times was the service, it was cheap and a no-brainer. I didnt have to do much planning. Just book a flight and reserve a room. Fly there, take the taxi to the hotel and get laid.
Im attracted more to the Thai women, but since I only have so much vacation time, I thought might as well stick to the same routine. Each time was a lot of fun and the women were very friendly. The sex wasnt bad, above average. The women stuck with you like glue and you had to throw them out of the room in order to move onto the next batter. When you went to the same bar again, the same women would come up to you expecting to barfine them. Wow! I like the aggressiveness, but I really came to AC to go with different women not the same one every night...hehe
The only thing is that most filipinas are not "rail thin" and sometimes you have to hop around a little bit until you find the one who fits the bill.
I could picture some of the Thai women on a magazine cover with their rail thin bodies. However, the filipinas might not make the cover. Thats all I am saying.
Im not really into the Jakarta women that I see on here. Something tells me they are a little more unkept then the pinays or the thais. However, if the Jakarta women have more sexual energy then that might make up for it.
The action shots I see on here of the Jakarta women seem to be the wildest of the bunch.
[QUOTE=The Corn Hole]If you're an anal enthusiast you're mongering on the wrong Continent. You need to make your way down to South America. That's the Continent for assfucking. Asia is not. The girls will more often agree to it there, unlesss of course you're walking around with a Pringles can hanging between your legs. If that's the case you'll probably encounter alot more resistance. Sorry that's just the way it is.
On the subject of AC girls not allowing threesomes. If you want a better sexual experience in AC you should forget about the dancers and barfine the older waitresses. Preferably over 25 because they usually turn out to be much more uninhibited and much less introverted than the younger ones. they will be more keen on the idea of threesomes and your chances of finding that elusive three-holer will increase, but it will still be somewhat low among that ilk. The sexual skills of the Filipina have been grossly overstated in my opinion. And AC is over-hyped as a top mongering spot I'm sorry to say.[/QUOTE]
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SPAs
I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy]That's a weird one, bro Menteng. Why would she care if you are cumming while inside her? It's just going to end up in the condom anyway. These girls have some strange fetishes.[/QUOTE]
I think I know the answer. Just check Menteng's photos and you'll see why;).
[QUOTE=Menteng]Poor, poor, little girl! You mean man! Makes me feel like taking care of her and try to make her forget you :D[/QUOTE]
You're welcome my friend - don't blame me if you end up with another wife:D. I'm even remeniscing about Miss Y right now. I'm stuck in KL until I can resolve my business with my partners and missing Jakarta dreadfully. When are you going and when will you be back? I'd really like to meet if possible. The earliest date I will definitely be in Jakarta looks like 25th April.
[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]In my entire life of dating and mongering, I have only found two women where I had successfully performed anal sex. One of the women was Chinese and the other Russian. The Chinese woman was someone I was dating here and after the experience she said it hurt for at least a week. The Russian woman didnt seem to mind so much. There were a few others that were willing but when I tried I had to stop because they appeared to be in too much pain. Everyone else has been extremely disagreeable to the idea. There were a few exceptions where a woman allowed me to stick a finger in the ass. However, the vast majority of women who I have met in my lifetime were very disagreeable to the idea.
I would be surprised if I came upon a woman who was agreeable to the idea of anal sex anywhere in the world. I do ask though although I know the answer will most always be no;)[/QUOTE]
I must have lucked out then. Smoothy has it right when he says it does take some persuasion unless you're with a wild girl anyway. I've been lucky to find quite a few in my time (including my ex-wife - that's another story). I've managed the ideal threesome you mentioned in Jakarta courtesy of Kiki and Sandra (I think I posted on this about 18 months ago) - do you still have her number Chalky? It cost me all of 500k total for a very pleasant 3 hours in the afternoon. Memories......
MD II
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[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]I have not found such place yet. Unfortunately, but here's my suggestion anyway:
Go to the SPA (sorry, forgot the name) whose entrance is in front of the entrance of RED SQUARE Bar at Senayan Arcade. It's for men and women. It's brand new there (they opened just a few weeks ago) and for 450,000 Rp they pamper you the whole afternoon (in a serious way, bathing, scrub, massage, whirlpool, steamroom etc., NO EXTRAS, but really worth every penny anyway). Afterwards (even if I would suggest to go before) you can go in any known MP to get the "extra's" for the regularly known prices.
Enjoy,
CF68
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[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full scrubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]
Depending on the girl you choose, the Kartika Massage (one block from intersection of Jalan Hayam Wuruk with Jalan Mangga Besar, down the alley next to Suisse Bakery) might provide what you're looking for. Pick someone like Cynthia and make sure you inform her that one of the reasons you're there is to get a really good massage.
Another option might be Sumo Shiatsu - tell the mamasan of the local massage girls what you're looking for, they should be able to help you out.
Crazyfish68 also has a good suggestion, the only problem is that you would end up having to go someplace else for the extras, and most of the MPs that provide extras are not particularly close by :(
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[QUOTE=Master Diver II]I think I know the answer. Just check Menteng's photos and you'll see why;).
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You've guessed right, my friend!
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]
You're welcome my friend - don't blame me if you end up with another wife:D. I'm even remeniscing about Miss Y right now. I'm stuck in KL until I can resolve my business with my partners and missing Jakarta dreadfully. When are you going and when will you be back? I'd really like to meet if possible. The earliest date I will definitely be in Jakarta looks like 25th April.
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Thanks for the warning, I was too eager to help. But that's me, Sir Gallahad ;)
I will leave Jakarta at 30th of March and I don't know when I'll be back. It depends on the start of the reconstruction of my house in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Master Diver II]
I must have lucked out then. Smoothy has it right when he says it does take some persuasion unless you're with a wild girl anyway. I've been lucky to find quite a few in my time (including my ex-wife - that's another story). I've managed the ideal threesome you mentioned in Jakarta courtesy of Kiki and Sandra (I think I posted on this about 18 months ago) - do you still have her number Chalky? It cost me all of 500k total for a very pleasant 3 hours in the afternoon. Memories......
MD II[/QUOTE]
I have Kiki's number if you need it MDII and the other day she offered a threesome (with Sandra?) and even anal. About that last item, she said that usually she will not allow it at the first encounter, but I don't have to wait. (Must be my charming personality :D )
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Arse fucking 102
On the subject of arse-fucking that was such a topic of interest a few days ago, I'd like to add a couple of points....
In my experience, as well as there being girls who won't take it up their sweet little rear entrances on principle, there are also girls who just can't do it because they're sweet little entrances are just that - too little.
I recently tried it on two of my regular fucklets who requested it from me - it wasn't me trying to persuade them. But as much as I lubricated myself and thoroughly enjoyed myself lubing the sweet holes in question, the girlies just couldn't take it. Their arses were too tight and that was it --- aduh sakit!!
Whereas, in other cases I've come across rear entrances that were no trouble to penetrate. One recent arse-fuck lover I encountered offered her arse to me the first time we met and I slipped it in with no trouble at all. Her arse was just made for fucking.
I've had similar experiences before. One crazy nympho I fucked a few times a long time ago claimed that all this complaining about pain was just an excuse by girls who didn't want to do it. It was alright for her, because her arsehole just opened up to anything, cock or dildo, that you wanted to shove into it.
In the middle, there is a group of girls who can take it sometimes but not others. A couple of my dial-a-fuck P4Ps will usually agree to take it up the arse, but sometimes it just doesn't happen.
But, having said all that, I absolutely agree that it's necessary to have lots of lube and to take it very slowly and gently.
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[QUOTE=Menteng]You've guessed right, my friend!
Thanks for the warning, I was too eager to help. But that's me, Sir Gallahad ;)
I will leave Jakarta at 30th of March and I don't know when I'll be back. It depends on the start of the reconstruction of my house in Colombia.
I have Kiki's number if you need it MDII and the other day she offered a threesome (with Sandra?) and even anal. About that last item, she said that usually she will not allow it at the first encounter, but I don't have to wait. (Must be my charming personality :D )[/QUOTE]
Menteng,
Perhaps I might need the number when I finally settle my issues and resume my duties redistributing some small measure of wealth from Malaysia to Indonesia. By assuming that the marginal propensity for these girls to spend is 1. Using the multiplier effect, I believe we may collectively have saved the Indonesian economy - aren't we great philanthropists:)? PM me bro (and do try the threesome and let me know).
MD II
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[QUOTE=Babu]I was wondering whether anyone can tell me where to head for a full spa package with a full scrub down with some authentic javanese massage and maybe a little on the side later if i so choose, if you know what I mean heheh. I was told in Jakarta such spas with full srcubs and javanese massages are mainly for ladies only.[/QUOTE]
Just go to one of the Delta Spa's in the town. I have been to Delta on Gatot Subroto and took the VIP suite. Take the 2 and a quarter hour sevice. The young and petite girls give you a great massage, hotstone, shiatsu, thai, javanese, anything . You have choice. And then give u a good scrub. They finish it off with a wonderful hand job. And they dont call it extra. Its part of the full body massage. But then the full body masage is available only if you take a 3 session massage of 45 minutes each. The damage in VIP suite is Rp 550 K. I never tried the ordinary suite, which I am sure is cheaper.
The alternative is, take JAD's tour and visit the various places in town which offer these services and report here for us to take a stroll there.
Cheers