Ulanbaatar

[QUOTE=Axe1203]I've been to Casa couple times and doesn't impress me much.

Actually couple days ago, I noticed that in the basement where UBM used to be there was a sign said "New UB Massage". Didn't go there and don't know how is it there.

The area where UB Massage now in is fairly safe if you take a taxi straight to their doors. Otherwise it's not advised to walk around.

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"New UB Massage" in the old location? That sounds promising!

Arriving by day once at the new UB Massage location, I noticed a slew of karaoke joints and ST hotels on the street. It probably gets rowdy, but might be a good area to explore for game.

Casablanca is definitely hit or miss. It also seems to be the only game in town at the moment. Two or three regulars are always there but Saturday nights are the best time, starting fairly early before the nice ones get taken. I've seen as many as 6 decent-lookers around the bar. But as I mentioned in a PM, there has been heavy price inflation due to the influx of expats who stop for a night or 2 before heading for the mining areas. This will be increasing with warmer weather too, but so should the p4p pickings.

[QUOTE=Lenience]"New UB Massage" in the old location? That sounds promising!

Arriving by day once at the new UB Massage location, I noticed a slew of karaoke joints and ST hotels on the street. It probably gets rowdy, but might be a good area to explore for game.

Casablanca is definitely hit or miss. It also seems to be the only game in town at the moment. Two or three regulars are always there but Saturday nights are the best time, starting fairly early before the nice ones get taken. I've seen as many as 6 decent-lookers around the bar. But as I mentioned in a PM, there has been heavy price inflation due to the influx of expats who stop for a night or 2 before heading for the mining areas. This will be increasing with warmer weather too, but so should the p4p pickings.[/QUOTE]

Maybe UB massage is returning to the former site? Hope so.

Lenience - apparently the expat miners and drillers have been using the Casablanca bar as their "local" for 3 or 4 years now so I think everyone is used to them being there. There was always a heap of guys in there (some pretty wild and redneck) when i stayed at the Bayangol March - July, 2008, but they didn't seem to take much notice of the girls.
My experience was that the Casablanca girls always started high regarding prices in the hope of catching a newbie but when you laughed and walked away the offers were revised downwards quickly especially if you looked half decent and professional. I had one girl come with me upstairs for $40 and then said that $20 would be OK in future if ever I "needed" a woman because she knew I was staying in the hotel and was a longer-term stayer. She wasn't that good but she was a good back-up whenever the need arose.

[QUOTE=Lenience]UB Massage lost their lease on Seoul St and moved to a less convenient area to the west. It's not a place you'd walk to but they will make every effort to get you to there. The place is a lot like the old shop, same cute masseuses, same friendly service. You can call and usually get the owner Mongo who speaks some English. She sent a lady to pick me up and afterward called a taxi to get me home. When you go you can get a card with a map that a cab driver can follow the next time, and this month get a 40% discount.

Short story - call 55252800 or 88008484. Get the oil massage 20,000 tugs for a great 1-hour massage, happy ending included for sure. Each lady has a different handjob technique and it's very affordable to collect them all.

The 30-minute body wash will get you cleaner than you have ever been, but is pretty intense and not especially erotic.[/QUOTE]


OK I am on the ground here now in UB and latest update.

Took Lenience's excellent advice given here and called UB Massage (Mungo) on her cell and she was brilliant. Sent a taxi to pick me up and bring me to the "new" site for UB Massage. She even came with the driver to meet me. The "standard massage is now 22,000 tugs and the full body scrub + massage is 35,000. The new venue is great and easy to find - right next door to the railway station.
UB Massage is NOT going back to the old venue on Seoul Street but are opening a new outlet in the Springs Hotel . It may be that another parlor is opening in the former UB Massage in Seoul Street.

Further updates to follow. Stilll very cold here ( minus 12 degrees C today with snow). No sign of Spring yet.

I will come to UB at end of this April and stay at Ulaanbaatar hotel for about one week.

Could you provide some suggestion on how to find girl at Ulaanbaatar hotel and price level for it? How is quality of girl in this hotel?

Is it safe to bring girl in bar back to my room of Ulaanbaatar hotel? Will it become robbery?

Thanks in advance.

Sen

[QUOTE=Sen1234]I will come to UB at end of this April and stay at Ulaanbaatar hotel for about one week.

Could you provide some suggestion on how to find girl at Ulaanbaatar hotel and price level for it? How is quality of girl in this hotel?

Is it safe to bring girl in bar back to my room of Ulaanbaatar hotel? Will it become robbery?

Thanks in advance.

Sen[/QUOTE]

If you are brave enough, you can meet a girl in the Lenin park immediately opposite UB Hotel anytime after about 6 pm.
It is still very cold in UB (sub-zero after 4pm) so the girls there are the very desperate and determined ones and you cannot see much of their bodies because they are well-covered.
Language will also be a big problem unless you speak Mongolian or maybe Russian.
I have not tried them and don't plan to this trip.

I don't think bringing girls to UB Hotel will be a problem. Just take usual precautions that you would anywhere else with an unknown visitor in your room - don't leave valuables or money in sight; don't let her spike your drink, and above all, don't let her into your room until you have AGREED on the price.

[QUOTE=Sen1234]I will come to UB at end of this April and stay at Ulaanbaatar hotel for about one week.

Could you provide some suggestion on how to find girl at Ulaanbaatar hotel and price level for it? How is quality of girl in this hotel?

Is it safe to bring girl in bar back to my room of Ulaanbaatar hotel? Will it become robbery?

Thanks in advance.

Sen[/QUOTE]Can help I think. When you are here give me a PM here.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]If you are brave enough, you can meet a girl in the Lenin park immediately opposite UB Hotel anytime after about 6 pm.

It is still very cold in UB (sub-zero after 4pm) so the girls there are the very desperate and determined ones and you cannot see much of their bodies because they are well-covered.

Language will also be a big problem unless you speak Mongolian or maybe Russian.

I have not tried them and don't plan to this trip.

I don't think bringing girls to UB Hotel will be a problem. Just take usual precautions that you would anywhere else with an unknown visitor in your room. Don't leave valuables or money in sight; don't let her spike your drink, and above all, don't let her into your room until you have AGREED on the price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your suggestion.

I had some good sex experience with KTV girls in last two years in UB. I want to find a long term girl friend in UB, who will teach me some Mongolian language and culture. She shall speak English or Chinese. I think she shall be college girls or office lady.

Is it easy to find such girl? If it is easy, where is right place to find this kind of girl?

[QUOTE=Sen1234]I will come to UB at end of this April and stay at Ulaanbaatar hotel for about one week.

Could you provide some suggestion on how to find girl at Ulaanbaatar hotel and price level for it? How is quality of girl in this hotel?

Is it safe to bring girl in bar back to my room of Ulaanbaatar hotel? Will it become robbery?

Thanks in advance.

Sen[/QUOTE]

Just a further update to my earlier post here about UB Hotel.

I usually pay my bill weekly so I can watch the add-on costs and also avoid having to check a big bill at the end of a long stay.
I was surprised to see that they had charged me a fee for having a guest in my room on 3 occasions in Week 1. It was an extra $12 per night (I have a special corporate rate for long -stay). I was intrigued how they knew I had a guest as at least twice we had dined in the restaurant and then slipped upstairs. The desk manager told me they have CCTV monitoring all floors.
It will not stop me from bringing back an occasional girl now and again but it is worth knowing for those of you planning to use the hotel.

UB Hotel is perfect for me as it is close to my work place but mongers should maybe check out the new Springs Hotel that is situated across from UB Hotel on the other side of Peace Avenue and near "River Sounds live music club". I think it is girl friendly. Another bonus is the the UB Massage that used to be along Seoul Street is about to open a new branch in the Springs Hotel too.

The Springs is a great little hotel and have very good long-term (1-month+) rates. But they do charge (or attempt to) for guests. One way to avoid it is to take a guest to the Korean restaurant on the second floor (very good and cheap), and then proceed up in the elevator.


[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Just a further update to my earlier post here about UB Hotel.

I usually pay my bill weekly so I can watch the add-on costs and also avoid having to check a big bill at the end of a long stay.
I was surprised to see that they had charged me a fee for having a guest in my room on 3 occasions in Week 1. It was an extra $12 per night (I have a special corporate rate for long -stay). I was intrigued how they knew I had a guest as at least twice we had dined in the restaurant and then slipped upstairs. The desk manager told me they have CCTV monitoring all floors.
It will not stop me from bringing back an occasional girl now and again but it is worth knowing for those of you planning to use the hotel.

UB Hotel is perfect for me as it is close to my work place but mongers should maybe check out the new Springs Hotel that is situated across from UB Hotel on the other side of Peace Avenue and near "River Sounds live music club". I think it is girl friendly. Another bonus is the the UB Massage that used to be along Seoul Street is about to open a new branch in the Springs Hotel too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenience]The Springs is a great little hotel and have very good long-term (1-month+) rates. But they do charge (or attempt to) for guests. One way to avoid it is to take a guest to the Korean restaurant on the second floor (very good and cheap), and then proceed up in the elevator.[/QUOTE]

That's the trick I tried too Lenience in UB Hotel. I first went to the restaurant on the 2nd floor and also the Indian Restaurant on the 6th floor. I learned from my friendly doorman that they have a CCTV on each floor so they got me using that.
I have now learned from my friendly receptionist (helps to have in-house friends) that I can have guest in room up to 12 midnight free of charge but after that they have to charge me guest fee.
As I said earlier, no big deal for me as it will be on the weekend only that I may want a girl to stay LT - I will pay the joiner fee as I already have a good discount on the room anyway. This past week Mon - Friday I have been happy to have a friend join me after work/university around 6pm and have a 3 or 4 hour intensive session and then let her head off home around 10pm as I have to work next day anyway.
There is always a way to go, and it's all good.

[QUOTE=Jack Mgl]I noticed one skimpy dressed lady in the Chinggis Khan Hotel Massage and Sauna at first floor one night as I was around in the hotel. She was just loitering around the massage area so I thought there was some "extra" action down there.

Went there the next day around noon, but sadly, got a bad massage there with no extra service, nor private room for massages.

Wondering if those were working girls at the massage or for the karaoke? Anyone can put in some feedback here?[/QUOTE]I am staying at the CKH and armed with Jack Mgl's report, decided to try the massage in-room. The good news is that it was an excellent massage, value for money at Tuk 25K. The masseuse was petite, pretty in a girl next door sort of way. Minimal English. Molgolian and Russian. Privacy was assured; I paid cash so it is not on the credit card bill. The bad news is that the massage was absolutely straight. I made a straightforward enquiry in that regard and was firmly turned down, accompanied by one of those looks of horror along the line of "I could lose a damn good job if I did that. " Anyway, I resumed a gentlemanly demeanor and had a wonder time. The scalp massage finale was the best I have ever had.

I enjoyed the massage and the rekkie. Tonight, the debate is the "spa" directly across the street (Silver, I think), or the taxi ride to the good place. Anyway, I have options, thanks to the mongers who have made some very helpful, very clear postings. Thank you all.

[QUOTE=Monger1313]I am staying at the CKH and armed with Jack Mgl's report, decided to try the massage in-room. The good news is that it was an excellent massage, value for money at Tuk 25K. The masseuse was petite, pretty in a girl next door sort of way. Minimal English. Molgolian and Russian. Privacy was assured; I paid cash so it is not on the credit card bill. The bad news is that the massage was absolutely straight. I made a straightforward enquiry in that regard and was firmly turned down, accompanied by one of those looks of horror along the line of "I could lose a damn good job if I did that. " Anyway, I resumed a gentlemanly demeanor and had a wonder time. The scalp massage finale was the best I have ever had.

I enjoyed the massage and the rekkie. Tonight, the debate is the "spa" directly across the street (Silver, I think), or the taxi ride to the good place. Anyway, I have options, thanks to the mongers who have made some very helpful, very clear postings. Thank you all.[/QUOTE]

Drop me a pm (I am in UB until end of May) or follow the tips on this thread to get a massage from the UB Massage. It is 28,000 for a 30 min full body scrub followed by an hour warm oil massage that includes a happy ending without her even asking (well she sort of asks but she knows what the answer will be lol).
You are close to Metropole Disco around the backside of the CK Hotel in the car park for the Sky Dept Store.
Go to Strings Night Club, especially Frid and Satdy night when the girls come out to play.

[QUOTE=Monger1313]Tonight, the debate is the "spa" directly across the street (Silver, I think), or the taxi ride to the good place. Anyway, I have options, thanks to the mongers who have made some very helpful, very clear postings. Thank you all.[/QUOTE]Circumstances dictated that Silver was my only option, so I gave it a try. It was without a doubt the worst massage experience I have had overseas and probably among the top three in my life.

At 18H00 I hit the desk and elected the T20K full body massage (€12 or so) and drew "Ray", an overweight 20-something with the sniffles. It went downhill from there. The place is dirty, and thin walls meant I heared everything. Ray sniffled every 30-45 seconds; I know I am going to get her cold. On top of that, she was chewing gum like a cowboy chews tobacco. Her massage technique was maximum pressure up to and including intentional pain. No happy ending was offered and at that point, none was desired. Avod at all costs. At least it was an honest hour. If you speak Mongolian or Russian, you might be able to avoid some of this. But I don't speak the lingo(s).

Tomorrow's business schedule has eased up and I should be able to try out UB. Wish me luck. I will report if I make it.

[quote=monger1313]tomorrow's business schedule has eased up and i should be able to try out ub. wish me luck. i will report if i make it.[/quote]made it. the ub massage center is the way to go. it is now located in the spring hotel. i called ub massage and they sent a car to pick me up at my hotel. i was greeted and shown the "menu", which is printed in english and russian. i opted for the one hour body scrub and the one hour hot japanese massage. this was the top of the line combo and set me back tug 55, 000 (about €18. ridiculously cheap). there is a tug 20, 000 one hour massage option on offer.

the facility is new, clean, and attractive. a word to dedicated mongers. this place is about massage; the happy ending is just that. flirting and roaming at the end, only. let the staff members do their jobs.

i was shown to my cubicle by an attractive, tallish masseuse, who helped me disrobe, and escorted me to the scrub room, where she passed me off to a cute, petite spinner. "costumes" are pleasing to the eye without sending erotic signals. i had opted for the deluxe body wash, which was just that. if you have sensitive skin, beware. the regime starts off with a relatively abrasive bath mitt wash, and progresses through four stages of successively less abrasive mitts. it is thorough, pampering, attentive, and a bit of an ego trip to have so much attention paid for so long a time by such a cute gal. she offers the option of a shampoo, which then results in her cleaning your ears with her little fingers! c. l. e. a. n.

after drying you off, she escorts you back to the cubicle for your massage by your original attendant. the japanese hot massage is just that. she wraps you up in several layers of steaming hot, damp towels and massages through that for perhaps 10-12 minutes, including just the right amount of back-walking. then she peels off the towels, covers you to keep you warm, and then applies hot oil to a limb and goes to work with long, professional strokes and pressure at just the right places. the boys occasionally get jangled a bit (the masseuse is not shy), but that is incidental. upon the flip, same drill top side. this is professional massage at its best. my only criticism is the hole in the table for your face. it is poorly executed and not as comfortable as it should b. with about five minutes to go, she coyly taps willy and asks if you'd like him massaged, too. i don't know if anyone has ever said no, and i didn't. she positioned herself to allow some limited below-the-belt roaming, and spent about five very, very skillful and enjoyable minutes on the little guy, who of course was less little than a while back. end, clean-up, tea or coffee (your choice), a hug and a smile, and on your way.

can you think of a better way to spend two hours of a friday afternoon?

I decided to wander over to River Sounds last night to check it out after visiting a few times in 2008.
Arrived around 11 pm and the place was just getting going.
Live band was very average, and the atmosphere was pretty flat and didn't seem to be likely to get going either.
Quite a few girls had rolled in by 1pm and were starting to make the eye contact around the bar area.
Foreigners beware of the "drink waiters" - guys in white shirts serving drinks. The waiter serving me was obviously running a scam. I bought a draft beer and paid on the spot and he gave me change out of his wallet (no bar chit). I never really thought much about it until I went to pay for 3 beers (I bought 2 for 2 lovely ladies). He told me a ridiculous price which I queried (as I had seen the price list); he backed off and apologised for making a mistake and again gave me change out of his own pocket with no bar chit. I asked for a receipt and he laughed and said not to worry about it, and then started getting aggro.
I decided to leave soon after.

This guy was obviously pocketing the money and not putting it into the bar. It seems this place is not well-run or supervised if staff can do this sort of thing, and it usually rings alarm bells for me that maybe other things will not be good either.