Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2508902]Paulie is exactly correct.

Sweden's refusal to lockdown has proven to be a big failure.

Their Covid problem is far more out of control that the situation in just about all of their Nordic neighbors. People have died in Sweden that didn't need to based on the superior results of their immediate neighbors (who are using better, more effective, strategies).[/QUOTE]What a surprise, libtard #1 agrees with libtard #2.

I call it a great success. Sweden still did a lot better than the blue states and many other countries that had lockdowns. It's ridiculous to have lockdowns because of virus that almost only kills the old and weak. 7000 deaths, that's nothing.

The lockdowns caused a lot more harm for a lot more people.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2508834]Sadly enough you've ruined every attempt of having a serious discussion. You don't care about facts, you're just a NPC repeating what you've heard on CNN.[/QUOTE]There it is, he's a gamer dork. All makes sense now. AZN Monger had the right idea. Click.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2508816]Actually I was wrong only one time about the Spanish deficit (shame on me, I embarrassed myself because I assumed that 100% of your posts are total bullshits) and you've been right only one time (congratulations). All your other arguments make no sense except in your alternate universe.

As for the comparison with Nordic countries that's easy.

Just check on any serious website (odcd. Org for example) that Norway, Denmark have similar demographics with Sweden. Major difference: they enforced a lockdown. But shooTroll has some trouble doing comparisons: in one of his ramblings he used Ireland as an example of ineffective lockdown. The only problem is that Ireland a way less deaths par capita than Sweden.

It's also possible to compute the weighted average of deaths per capita in Europe in the lockdown countries and in the no lockdown country.

I'm pretty sure that the result won't be too bright for Sweden.[/QUOTE]No, you've been wrong every time you opened your mouth and I've been correct every time. What about the net contribution to the EU? You got it wrong two or three times even when you corrected yourself afterwards.

It's funny that you're so obsessed with me that you go through my posts that are several months old. I guess I can live rent free in your empty head. At the time of my post Ireland had more deaths than Sweden. Ireland still has a lot of deaths considering all their restrictions. You do realize that lockdowns hurts people? Many will suffer because of the lockdowns.

I'm pretty sure that Sweden and EU-26 have seen deaths of around 600-700 per million. Not exactly the result you want from implementing lockdowns, but it looks extremely bright for Sweden.

I would be more worried about the harmful effects we've seen from the lockdowns. Most of the dead wouldn't have lived much longer anyways. I guess one of the reasons why Sweden couldn't have a lockdown is that we have to pay the bills for the other countries in the EU. If only Sweden could receive big money from the EU as the others do.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2508902]Paulie is exactly correct.

Sweden's refusal to lockdown has proven to be a big failure.

Their Covid problem is far more out of control that the situation in just about all of their Nordic neighbors. People have died in Sweden that didn't need to based on the superior results of their immediate neighbors (who are using better, more effective, strategies).[/QUOTE]I just read Belgium has the highest death rate from covid 19 per 1 million people in the world. Why is that?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2509088]I just read Belgium has the highest death rate from covid 19 per 1 million people in the world. Why is that?[/QUOTE]Maybe they are more honest than many other countries, when Belgium is not third world country. For example, US can t really know among more than 10 millions illegals who won t go to hospital, same like with so many millions without healthcare insurance, even millions are working but don t have insurance. Nobody know for China, Russia. Covid kill lungs, but will also provide economic diseases with many becoming poor losing job, also dark mood diseases, loneliness, when many countries are now under second wave, but third wave is also starting before vaccines. Snow arrived in Western Europe, fell nearly 1 meter high in mountains on last days, so, for a better mood, I will put my friends skis Neo and ski shoes in car, even no ski lift working in France, but to dream about a virgin line if I find a spot for my best Christmas present.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2509088]I just read Belgium has the highest death rate from covid 19 per 1 million people in the world. Why is that?[/QUOTE]This virus is having pretty much the same effect irrespective of masks or no masks, lockdowns or no lockdowns. Big advantage of no lockdowns are (1) achieve herd immunity quicker, (2) does not kill people's livelihoods. Only negative is that the inevitable deaths of the weak people cannot be delayed, but they weren't immortal before the virus either, and were susceptible to death by pathogens anyway.

Now, let's start flaming me for stating the obvious.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2509088]I just read Belgium has the highest death rate from covid 19 per 1 million people in the world. Why is that?[/QUOTE]Short answer is Belgium had more total cases per capita and Belgium got hit earlier than most of Europe (when countries were less logistically prepared and less was known about treatment).

Why did Belgium have more total cases? Well here is the population density map of Europe. The darkest areas correspond to the areas with the most people per squared kilometer. By far the highest concentration of people in Europe is Paris, however, the largest contiguous cluster of black and purple is the NRW, Belgium, and Netherlands region. The second biggest cluster of black and purple is the southern UK. And what is geographic center of these two dark clusters? You guessed, it Brussels. So we would expect the most infections there: [URL]http://aestheticdata.eu/2018/01/27/population-density-in-europe/[/URL].

Why did Belgium get hit early? By train, London is two hours away, Paris 90 minutes, and Amsterdam two hours. Based on international flights, these are number one, two, and three most "connected" airports in Europe: [URL]https://bigseventravel.com/2019/11/the-7-busiest-airports-in-europe/[/URL].

Strictly looking at numbers, Belgium, Spain, Italy, and UK had some of the highest death rates in Europe. On a per-capita death basis, Romania outperformed all four of these richer countries by a wide margin. But ask yourself is that a fair comparison? While the city of Bucharest is one of the most dense cities in Europe, let's be honest, there isn't much else around it. Also, compared to London or Paris, Bucharest is a remote and disconnected "village". Bucharest simply is NOT a financial hub. Nor is it particularly connected to Wuhan. And as much as WGs like to flock to the Black Sea coast of Romania, it does not see anywhere near the summer tourist traffic as France, Spain, or Italy. So for the same reason I would not compare Romania's performance to Belgium's, I would also not compare Sweden's performance to Belgium's. Comparing Nordic countries with each other is more apples-to-apples.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2509108]This virus is having pretty much the same effect irrespective of masks or no masks, lockdowns or no lockdowns. Big advantage of no lockdowns are (1) achieve herd immunity quicker, (2) does not kill people's livelihoods. Only negative is that the inevitable deaths of the weak people cannot be delayed, but they weren't immortal before the virus either, and were susceptible to death by pathogens anyway.

Now, let's start flaming me for stating the obvious.[/QUOTE]Explain Australia, New Zealand, and East Asian countries where distancing and masks are not only policy but also practiced. You won't, because you can't.

Doesn't look like North America, Europe (+Sweden), or South America will achieve herd immunity before vaccine roll out.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2509162]Explain Australia, New Zealand, and East Asian countries where distancing and masks are not only policy but also practiced. You won't, because you can't.

Doesn't look like North America, Europe (+Sweden), or South America will achieve herd immunity before vaccine roll out.[/QUOTE]Gino is obviously under the impression that if he repeats the same lies over and over for long enough they'll become true.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2509162]Explain Australia, New Zealand, and East Asian countries where distancing and masks are not only policy but also practiced. You won't, because you can't.

Doesn't look like North America, Europe (+Sweden), or South America will achieve herd immunity before vaccine roll out.[/QUOTE]Finland and Norway are performing the best in Europe. Scandinavians are famously known for maintaining personal space, similar to the way Germans are famous for their punctuality. First time I mentioned it here, I believe at least two ISGers jokingly said "Yah that describes us perfectly!" I don't remember who it was, maybe it was just two "libtards" who created fake accounts pretending to be Scandinavian, but I doubt it. Because it is consistent with my real-life offline experience: Whenever this "stereotype" about them is brought up, Scandinavians will ALWAYS take the opportunity to make fun of themselves first, because (1) it is a noticeable and easily observable part of their culture, and (2) makes the conversation less awkward.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2509067]There it is, he's a gamer dork. All makes sense now. AZN Monger had the right idea. Click.[/QUOTE]You're wrong as always, I haven't played computer games in my entire life. But you're obviously a "gamer dork". That would explain your awkwardness.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time? Every time you write a post it's the Dunning-Kruger effect all over again.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2509206]Finland and Norway are performing the best in Europe. Scandinavians are famously known for maintaining personal space, similar to the way Germans are famous for their punctuality. First time I mentioned it here, I believe at least two ISGers jokingly said "Yah that describes us perfectly!" I don't remember who it was, maybe it was just two "libtards" who created fake accounts pretending to be Scandinavian, but I doubt it. Because it is consistent with my real-life offline experience: Whenever this "stereotype" about them is brought up, Scandinavians will ALWAYS take the opportunity to make fun of themselves first, because (1) it is a noticeable and easily observable part of their culture, and (2) makes the conversation less awkward.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt that any ISG: ers wrote that. But feel free to share your sources.

It seems to me that you take jokes and exaggerations and elevate them to some kind of "truths". It's like the articles you referred to earlier, 90-99% exaggerations and pure BS to make a more "exotic"/ clickable article.

20% of the Swedish population are immigrants, around 30% if you include the children of these immigrants, what effect could that possible have when it comes to change in culture and the spread of the virus?

Caricatures are not truths.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2509196]Gino is obviously under the impression that if he repeats the same lies over and over for long enough they'll become true.[/QUOTE]LOL so tell me which country got the virus totally out by lockdowns and masking? None! Right?

Frankly, if anyone is scared of it at this point, why not wear hazmat suits 24 x 7, even at own home?

The Aera51/ UFO / CIA / Conspiracy / Cover up Antarctica base has ZERO Covid. Cynics here may argue that is because it does not exist, but that ignores Fox news and social media. Rather than masks, beautiful and foxy 18 year olds give morning blowjobs and smile a lot, and this seems to repel disease and dark thoughts. I pioneered this in Asia, but it seems the penguins passed on ancient wisdom in their own way when Hitler built a secret base in 1945 after meeting some hot alien chicks who gave him a ride in their flying saucer and then a different sort of carnal ride. "Mein Gott" he said realizing hot chicks were heaps better than broomstick up the butt old white guys parading around like wind up robots. These days, Elvis, Hitler, JFK, Stalin and Idi Amin have coffee mornings with hot girls draped over them, waiting the 30 minutes before full sexual recharge kicks in. Thanks to age reversal, these men are in their prime. I suspect Churchill is on this board, and who knows, it may be the dog.

Who wants to visit and Planet 6969 ?

Maybe vitamin D would be as efficient as rushing vaccines, maybe why Africa resisted quite well, wish god would save UK queen after vaccine. Already third and worst wave for South Korea now.