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[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Hi,

Can anyone offer their insights on marriage agency tours in Colombia? Is the $1300 bucks or so worth it? What were your experiences like? Were the women of higher quality than what a mongerer would normally have access to?

I have no serious interests in taking a wife from such a tour but if the right women avials herself who knows. I am seeking a more cultivated companion than a ***** from LDV. Thanks.

Best,

DD[/QUOTE]I was in MDE last month and I went to visit the office of AFA (in the Poblado district). There were four women there. The manager, and three associates.

They were very pleasant to me during my 30-minute visit (I did not pay any money. I only asked questions) but I think I may have uncovered a bit of a scam.

While I was talking to them, I noticed that two of the women were at computers, copying text from sheets of paper on their desk. I was able to catch a glimpse of what was on those sheets of paper, and they appeared to be "letters" that were being written by "women seeking men. "

In other words. Fake letters being being written by the AFA staff to unsuspecting men in the USA

I am not 100% certain that this was the case. But I am 90% certain.

If you want to get the AFA "experience" you can do it for as little as $50 per introduction. You go into their local office (in whatever city they have them) and look at their "Member's book". Or you can request a woman by her ID number on their website. For "only" $50 they will arrange a meeting at their office, and then you can take the woman to a nearby cafe or restaurant.

Next level of participation is to go to one of their scheduled parties. That will cost around $350 in MDE (IF I am remembering correctly). But you can meet many women, and then get their phone numbers. However, these parties only occur during one of their "tours" from the USA

Next level is to join their Latin Club. I think it is around $595 for unlimited introductions (usually at the AFA office) for a 7-day period. So, if the scheduling is possible, you can meet 4 or 5 women every day for a 1-2 hour date. For 7 straight days. I am not sure if this level includes attending one of their parties.

My point is that you do not have to spend the $1,300 (or more) to get some of their benefits. You can start as low as $50.

Just beware of my original discovery. The letter-writers were young assistants working in their office. It is very easy for this outfit to have "agreements" with the more beautiful women on their roster.

"Hey. Show up at our office. Go on a 1-hour date. We'll pay you $20. "

That is way more than what many women earn in MDE for several hours. Plus they will get a nice cup of coffee or lunch or dinner from you. Then, they will go on to the next "date. "

I do not mean to be cynical. I am simply reporting what I saw.

[QUOTE=Robby Burns]I do not mean to be cynical. I am simply reporting what I saw.[/QUOTE]Robby, it's possible those assistants were just transcribing the letters; you'd be surprise how many colombians don't have the internet access and computers we take for granted.

Still, these agencies are at the very least partial scams; I'll grant a lot of the girls are probably paid a small sum of cash to be available for dates/outings/parties. For most guys, it's a waste of money, although I grant that for some men who are shy, inexperienced with foreign travel, don't know the language, etc., this might be a safe, acceptable option to meet foreign women.

But if you are the shy type who's not into the cold approaches that Ricker does, just do what I do. I have several colombian friends and when I hang out with them, go to house parties, clubs, bars, soccer games, outdoor fairs, fincas, etc. it's just amazing how easy it is to meet friendly attractive women. And you already have the "social proof" or "vouching" that your local friend automatically provides for you.

The disadvantage to this method is you often have to compete with other colombian men, including sometimes your friends, lol! But I speak the language well so I can hold my own. My problem is that when I'm alone I tend to revert back to my natural shy/reserved state so the cold approach like what Ricker did with the girl he met on the subway, I wouldn't be able to pull that off. You have to find a strategy that works for you.

In planning my trip to Medellin this winter I have joined an online service called Columbian cupid. I am not normally a cynical person but I do have a working bulls*%t meter. In the week and a half since joining I have traded letters with over a half dozen cute girls in the 21-30 age range, turned down talking with another half-dozen not-so-cute girls and had OVER 45 ladies of all looks and age show interest in my profile. All these girls seem genuine in their letters and do not have 'slick' professional profiles. They have real, self taken pics and are able to hold an interesting conversation, albit via translator.

As I am also doing the internet dating thing here in the ole USofA. In the last two months I have talked to less than half a dozen girls, mostly between 4-5 in looks and most overweight. I have been stood up once, brushed off once and had one real date that I later regretted. It's pretty bad when a girl can literally make a sailor blush with her conduct in public.

So my question is this: Is my experience on columbian cupid what can be expected for the gringo in Columbia? Is there REALLY that much of a difference in AW and CW? Or is 90% of the responses I am getting online scams (I. E. Working girls posing as civilians, girls wanting the green card, more nefarious criminal activity targeting gringos, etc?)

While the girls I converse with seem genuine, when compared with the typical AW response my BS meter starts pinging.

Thanks for the input guys.

[QUOTE=Strangeman]In planning my trip to Medellin this winter I have joined an online service called Columbian cupid. I am not normally a cynical person but I do have a working bulls*%t meter. In the week and a half since joining I have traded letters with over a half dozen cute girls in the 21-30 age range, turned down talking with another half-dozen not-so-cute girls and had OVER 45 ladies of all looks and age show interest in my profile. All these girls seem genuine in their letters and do not have 'slick' professional profiles. They have real, self taken pics and are able to hold an interesting conversation, albit via translator.

As I am also doing the internet dating thing here in the ole USofA. In the last two months I have talked to less than half a dozen girls, mostly between 4-5 in looks and most overweight. I have been stood up once, brushed off once and had one real date that I later regretted. It's pretty bad when a girl can literally make a sailor blush with her conduct in public.

So my question is this: Is my experience on columbian cupid what can be expected for the gringo in Columbia? Is there REALLY that much of a difference in AW and CW? Or is 90% of the responses I am getting online scams (I. E. Working girls posing as civilians, girls wanting the green card, more nefarious criminal activity targeting gringos, etc?)

While the girls I converse with seem genuine, when compared with the typical AW response my BS meter starts pinging.

Thanks for the input guys.[/QUOTE]About 2 years ago I got involved with a beauty from Colombia Cupid. She lives in BAQ and is a sweet honest woman.

Please stop dealing with 4 to 5's on a USA dating service who are fat. Do you hate yourself ? Really I am not kidding. Of course there will be Pro's and scammers on the Latin site, but that is the chance you take, but at least you will be with sharp looking woman,not Gringa pigs.

One of the ways the Colombian military got to and later ID'ed the body of FARC #2 Mono Jojoy is by way of a GPS chip that had been inserted into the heel of one of his boots.

While it was a very extensive operation involving about 70 aircraft and 800 assault troops the short version is that he was killed in the intial bombardment insde his bunker by smart bombs dropped from Super Tucano aircraft.

And here IMO, is one of the more interesting details of the operation: Mono Jojoy was diabetic. Colombian Intelligence learned that to relieve complications from his diabetes he regularly had custom boots made for him. So they infiltrated the calzado (shoemaker) link and had a GPS chip installed in one of his boots.

Not bad. I'm impressed.

Colombia! Always fascinating.

[QUOTE=Strangeman]In planning my trip to Medellin this winter I have joined an online service called Columbian cupid. I am not normally a cynical person but I do have a working bulls*%t meter. In the week and a half since joining I have traded letters with over a half dozen cute girls in the 21-30 age range, turned down talking with another half-dozen not-so-cute girls and had OVER 45 ladies of all looks and age show interest in my profile. All these girls seem genuine in their letters and do not have 'slick' professional profiles. They have real, self taken pics and are able to hold an interesting conversation, albit via translator.

As I am also doing the internet dating thing here in the ole USofA. In the last two months I have talked to less than half a dozen girls, mostly between 4-5 in looks and most overweight. I have been stood up once, brushed off once and had one real date that I later regretted. It's pretty bad when a girl can literally make a sailor blush with her conduct in public.

So my question is this: Is my experience on columbian cupid what can be expected for the gringo in Columbia? Is there REALLY that much of a difference in AW and CW? Or is 90% of the responses I am getting online scams (I. E. Working girls posing as civilians, girls wanting the green card, more nefarious criminal activity targeting gringos, etc?)

While the girls I converse with seem genuine, when compared with the typical AW response my BS meter starts pinging.

Thanks for the input guys.[/QUOTE]You need to upgrade your bullshit meter. Colombian women are very practical at the core, their cultured ways and good conversational skills notwithstanding. If you don't even speak the language you are at a MASSIVE disadvantage.

Ask yourself honestly, am I good looking? Am I good looking by Colombian standards (the bar is WAY higher here, in case you haven't noticed)? Can I dance? Can I dance by Colombian standards (unless it's a rocker chick, they care a lot about dancing)? How good is my Spanish? How good is my knowledge of local customs and culture?

As a sailor you've probably had lots of pussy so are good in bed, and considering the USD is still way overvalued, you have a big advantage in purchasing power here. But be honest with yourself about your disadvantages and be sure that the women are as much aware of them as you are and more.

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]About 2 years ago I got involved with a beauty from Colombia Cupid. She lives in BAQ and is a sweet honest woman.

Please stop dealing with 4 to 5's on a USA dating service who are fat. Do you hate yourself ? Really I am not kidding. Of course there will be Pro's and scammers on the Latin site, but that is the chance you take, but at least you will be with sharp looking woman,not Gringa pigs.[/QUOTE]"but at least you will be with sharp looking woman,not Gringa pigs."

I love it! LOL LOL LOL

Just thought I would throw this in to show there are exceptions if this does not turn out to the bait and switch. Too much of that shit in the US! Specially out of NY.

[QUOTE=Viajero]"but at least you will be with sharp looking woman,not Gringa pigs."

I love it! LOL LOL LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Strangeman]So my question is this: Is my experience on columbian cupid what can be expected for the gringo in Columbia? Is there REALLY that much of a difference in AW and CW? Or is 90% of the responses I am getting online scams (I. E. Working girls posing as civilians, girls wanting the green card, more nefarious criminal activity targeting gringos, etc?)

While the girls I converse with seem genuine, when compared with the typical AW response my BS meter starts pinging.

Thanks for the input guys.[/QUOTE]My experience with the civilians is more based in Lima Peru, with the sister site Latinamericancupid. And always YMMV. But keeping that in mind and that I have also easily gotten a few dates with sincere, attractive Paisas as well without putting much time into it. My answer is YES, there is that big of a difference! I am 46 yo and though I look late 30s and have a pleasant face and smile and am reasonably fit, I find I have zero to offer the gringas and vice versa. A recent venture onto OKCupid here in the northeast US has been a total bust despite my best effort.

Meanwhile when in Lima. I've been there many times over the past decade. I have no problem getting tons of dates with decently attractive sincere (mostly) women from their mid twenties to mid thirties via latincupid. Getting dates has been dead simple, how many you actually bang depends on many factors, your level of game, attractiveness, standards, etc. My own score rate has never been that high but my last Lima trip ended with a memorable wild night in the arms of a 28 year old lovely (7. 5 face, 8 body, 9 smile and personality). Just as I have tapped her pussy she has tapped my wallet a bit, there is of course almost always a financial aspect as these women, typically they are low paid office workers, just don't have much dinero and they can be SO appreciative of a little financial help especially if they have a bebe or two to support.

To sum, the combination of a bit of generosity and just being a pleasant sincere guy (I always tell them up front I am not looking to be serious or have a long-distance relationship, but just am looking to meet nice people) and decent spanish and willingness to go out dancing can go a long way. I do speak very good spanish which is a huge asset for me.

As far as MDE my upcoming trips will be brief, and GFE has been for me so good with the Paisa prepagos that for efficiency sake if nothing else I am probably going to stick with the pros there at least for the most part, they treat me so good!

Sofia Vergara was recently chosen no. 1 in this category with good reason.

[QUOTE=NYC Expat]Sofia Vergara was recently chosen no. 1 in this category with good reason.[/QUOTE]Not a bad looking woman, contact info? LOL

Yes I am a sick pup, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

One time a famous Mansion Chica (name withheld to protect her future earning capabilitys) arrived in Mayorista and I took her for 30K and even with my limited Spanish it became a TLN.

So if the famous and drop dead beautiful Sofia Verara parks her butt in Mayorista I may even splurge a little and offer her 50k

Thats what dreams are made of.

BTW, as I write this little piece of nonsence, I am waiting in FLL for my flight to MDE. I should in action by this afternoon. Reports to follow as always.

Question for the bi-lingual mongers here. I am lining up a few girls online for my arrival in Colombia and use an online translator to chat with them. They often use the word "claro" which translates literally as sky light. But based on the context of how they use it, I think it is meant to be roughly the equivalent of saying "Exactly! " in English when you agree with someone. Can anyone confirm or elaborate on how this word is used?

Thanks

One of the few spanish words I know - i believe it translates to "sure", as in "Sure I'll fuck you senseless."

[QUOTE=Strangeman]Question for the bi-lingual mongers here. I am lining up a few girls online for my arrival in Colombia and use an online translator to chat with them. They often use the word "claro" which translates literally as sky light. But based on the context of how they use it, I think it is meant to be roughly the equivalent of saying "Exactly! " in English when you agree with someone. Can anyone confirm or elaborate on how this word is used?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You are correct, it is similar to us saying "exactly", "for sure", some people will use it instead of an affirmative "yes".

[QUOTE=Strangeman]Question for the bi-lingual mongers here. I am lining up a few girls online for my arrival in Colombia and use an online translator to chat with them. They often use the word "claro" which translates literally as sky light. But based on the context of how they use it, I think it is meant to be roughly the equivalent of saying "Exactly! " in English when you agree with someone. Can anyone confirm or elaborate on how this word is used?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes in the the Latino Spanish language it is used to (reaffirm, agree, for sure) with you.