Sosua Reports

As things stand today the Sosua economy is very dependent on monger dpllars. Sure there are those who would love to see a different Sosua but are you willing to kill the baby to save it. Mongers are carrying the economy today. We are critical to hotels and restaurants directly and indirectly. We draw the ladies who also spend and contribute to the economy. Who has the balls to kill the bird in hand. I will say this business men in the DR are not the sharpest guys in the game. The many incomplete buildings you see all over the country. Many things get started and never finished. Sosua has found its niche. It can not compete with Caberreti or Punta Cuna for a classy place to go. Both places have loyal cliental.

[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;1696767]There's an article in Sosua News quoting the DR Tourism minister Garcia at a conference in Berlin as saying: "Sosua must undergo a moral rehabilitation and return to a family resort".

I think your characterization of the town is spot on, so the meaning of "moral rehabilitation" is pretty simple. They just have to close down a few of the big clubs that pull in hundred's of chicas to few blocks of Pedro Clisante at night. That plus a few raids and symbolic enforcement and they can declare victory. It's more a matter of reputation and discretion. Sosua would be more like Caberete for an older crowd. Caberete has plenty of p4 p chicas but the scene isn't as obvious.

I'm not as confident as Haven that this will roll the way developers want, but I think he's correct in pointing out that there are people with some influence who want it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1696809]As things stand today the Sosua economy is very dependent on monger dpllars. Sure there are those who would love to see a different Sosua but are you willing to kill the baby to save it. Mongers are carrying the economy today. We are critical to hotels and restaurants directly and indirectly. We draw the ladies who also spend and contribute to the economy. Who has the balls to kill the bird in hand. I will say this business men in the DR are not the sharpest guys in the game. The many incomplete buildings you see all over the country. Many things get started and never finished. Sosua has found its niche. It can not compete with Caberreti or Punta Cuna for a classy place to go. Both places have loyal cliental.[/QUOTE]I suspect the people who are interested in this are a small group who want to build a major AI / condos / marina on the beach. They don't really care whether a few monger hotels or restaurants go out of business. For that matter they really don't care anymore than typical business folk what happens to anybody in the area. A mix of rich Dominicans who own land and have government and contracting connections, European big biz and narco cash. Even in Sosua though mongering is not an important part of the economy from the POV of big money. It's important to the little businesses that mongers come in contact with but as a fraction of the RD's tourist industry and resort real estate market it's negligible. Even if it was a bigger proportion it wouldn't matter to interests that don't directly benefit from it. To them it's just an embarrassment. It's not that these guys are such fine moral examples. A lot of the investment likely flows from narcotrafficantes.

OTOH it's not like well placed interests don't profit from things as they are as you say and the connected guys who make money from the status quo will push back.

My point was mostly that either way it's just about the little cluster of clubs on Pedro Clisante and the optics.

We got 2 different kinds of cops working the area 1st kind is the ones we been looking at for awhile now saying that dick head never gets any pussy and the 2nd is the one who goes home and gives his wife a disease because he got to close to the case he has been working on.

Cops are a necessary evil.

Right now seems to be hot times and when it gets this hot everyone is at risk for some kind of shit to happen in a bad way. Anyone that has spent much time in Sosua has had to look at some hombre and said to himself what the fuck was that all about.

Who knows who the bad guys are because in a recent news post they said cops are involved in 90 percent. That means that any American cop really has to watch his ass in the DR.

It never stops fellas. Now they are saying no Americans were detained in the raid on the villa outside of Sosua. Hmm!

Also Armondo the Classicos owner was arrested again, wasn't he deported? We can't seem to get a straight story out of the DR nowadays.

"Johnston was charged last April with fraud over $5,000, theft over $5,000 and laundering the proceeds of crime.

The alleged incidents occurred in Saskatchewan between October 2006 and September 2007, and RCMP began investigating the case in January 2013. ".

[URL]http://regina.ctvnews.ca/mobile/regina-man-arrested-in-dominican-republic-on-fraud-theft-charges-1.2288435[/URL]

[URL]http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=10905047[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;1696830]I suspect the people who are interested in this are a small group who want to build a major AI / condos / marina on the beach. They don't really care whether a few monger hotels or restaurants go out of business. For that matter they really don't care anymore than typical business folk what happens to anybody in the area. A mix of rich Dominicans who own land and have government and contracting connections, European big biz and narco cash. Even in Sosua though mongering is not an important part of the economy from the POV of big money. It's important to the little businesses that mongers come in contact with but as a fraction of the RD's tourist industry and resort real estate market it's negligible. Even if it was a bigger proportion it wouldn't matter to interests that don't directly benefit from it. To them it's just an embarrassment. It's not that these guys are such fine moral examples. A lot of the investment likely flows from narcotrafficantes.

OTOH it's not like well placed interests don't profit from things as they are as you say and the connected guys who make money from the status quo will push back.

My point was mostly that either way it's just about the little cluster of clubs on Pedro Clisante and the optics.[/QUOTE]Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1697041]"Johnston was charged last April with fraud over $5,000, theft over $5,000 and laundering the proceeds of crime.

The alleged incidents occurred in Saskatchewan between October 2006 and September 2007, and RCMP began investigating the case in January 2013. ".

[URL]http://regina.ctvnews.ca/mobile/regina-man-arrested-in-dominican-republic-on-fraud-theft-charges-1.2288435[/URL]

[URL]http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=10905047[/URL][/QUOTE]Impeccable timing.

""This is an example of how just one piece of information can bring charges in a file that goes back many years," RCMP Insp. Trudy Bangloy said in a media release. ".

Like I said, like shooting ducks!

I think it will take some time to build the infrastructure to support a high level of tourism. I have read the Cuba forum and the place has challenges. How the government deals with mongers is not a settled issue. Prostitution is not totally legal.

[QUOTE=DrBadBoy;1697049]Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;1697096]Impeccable timing.

""This is an example of how just one piece of information can bring charges in a file that goes back many years," RCMP Insp. Trudy Bangloy said in a media release. ".

Like I said, like shooting ducks![/QUOTE]It has been reported on several Canadian news outlets that he is alleged to have fucked a co-op out of $880,000. ,for his sake I hope the charges are unfounded but if he in fact did it then I don't feel bad for the guy at all.

I can not be mad at him. He took a shot at life changing money maybe. Either way a million bucks is life changing money. Rick had a long and good relationship to the guys at this board. He went out of his way help and support guys like us. He was consistent in his support. Who knows what his motivation was.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1697191]I think it will take some time to build the infrastructure to support a high level of tourism. I have read the Cuba forum and the place has challenges. How the government deals with mongers is not a settled issue. Prostitution is not totally legal.[/QUOTE]Cuba already has plenty of hotels, airports for large jets, and services the existing demand for package holidays from Canada, Europe, Russia et. It is only Americans who are not allowed to travel there.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g147270-Cuba-Hotels.html

[QUOTE=DrBadBoy;1697049]Once Cuba opens up 100% from the Sanctions / embargo imposed by the US, DR will have a real hard time competing. Everybody is going to be going to Cuba to fuck the new booties there. Lets not forget it is closer and therefore cheaper / faster to arrive to.[/QUOTE]I am guessing that you do not work in the travel industry.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1696241]Thanks Mr E.

I used the term humorously to describe my own "sleazy" activities there. I'm a john who pays for hookers, and enjoys the hobby.

Not meant to cast aspersions on those who only go for the sea air, the food, or the shopping. :)[/QUOTE]Every discussion ends up ultimately being about semantics (the meaning of words). Sleazy has a slightly different meaning when it is applied to a location than to a person, and of course the most common used of the word is discussing the sleaze factor in politics. Regarding a place it tends to mean somewhere that is run-down, seedy, and hosting nefarious activities. So the opposite of "corporate chic", fashionable, or family friendly.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1697412]Sleazy has a slightly different meaning when it is applied to a location than to a person[/QUOTE]I think Frannie is sleazy.:)

[QUOTE=Frannie;1697412]Every discussion ends up ultimately being about semantics. [/QUOTE]Nonsense, Patts is sleazy, Soi Cowboy is sleazy, Nana is sleazy, Juarez is sleazy, San Nich is sleazy, Surabaya is sleazy. And "Sosewer" is sleazy. If not then what place is?

And if one has any doubt then they have been mongering too long and have lost touch and need to try and date "normal" women for a while. If possible.