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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2102773]Again, "$12" could be misunderstood, but "$12,000" definitely not.[/QUOTE]Well, '12,000' would be twelve pesos and zero centavos. '12.000' would be twelve thousand pesos. Colombia is a 'comma country' and not a 'dot country. ' So 12 and 12,0 and 12,00 and 12,000 would all mean the same thing.
Hence, you are wrong.
[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;2103206]La Isla, a US-style gentlemen's club, might be less intimidating than Gusto's for someone with no Spanish. A bit pricey, but then again so are the girls in Gusto's. It's in Las Palmas conveniently on the way from the airport. Expect to pay 200,000 pesos and up for on-site experience.[/QUOTE]Separately, regarding Gusto's, I tried an interesting tactic on my last trip—and this was true "hunting" at its best: I found three girls ranging from 8-10. I made nice, talked to them, told them what I was looking for and what I was offering. Not surprisingly, all were seeking significantly more than I was willing to pay (I was looking for TLN at 11:30 pm on a Thursday night for 250-300 mil). After the initial rejection I let them know that I understood the pricing for such a beautiful woman in this place, and wished her luck (sincerely) in meeting her goal. I noted each girl was drinking a juice, and so I bought another one for her (cheap), got her number for a possible lunch date, then walked away. Notably not going directly to another woman.
As the night went on (since my apartment was 2 blocks away, I had no problem committing to Gusto's for the night), I would check in on the girls who were not with someone and ask them how things were going. They were usually less optimistic than before and would ask me if I found a date yet. I would always give an answer that was intended to plant a seed in their head. I'the say, "It's not important for me to find someone to go home with me, I just enjoy the music and talking to interesting people, if I can help someone with their bills, then that's good too!" Usually the guard begins to come down at that point (this is about 1 am). On this particular night, Gusto's closed early. I think 2 am. Then as I began to draw them in, I'the say good night and walk away. To go home. Right before closing I'the text to see if they found a date. They asked if I had company and if I wanted to see them. I would adjust the price to the 3 HR rate of 150 mil plus taxi, they'the counter with 200 mil and we'the seal the deal.
I think for me, the key was I was really indifferent as to having a girl the two times that worked for me. It was more like a game for me. I was willing to play a long game and it just so happened two of the three girls I targeted, didn't get picked up by another guy. The takeaway is: don't let desperation drive you to abandon your budget! They will usually come around!
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2103019]No we don't. Don't bring home slime and you won't have any problems.[/QUOTE]I've been staying with Barry and Poblado Rentals way back when he only had one spot on Calle 8 and you'd be the only gringo on the block at the time. Never had any issues staying with them on every trip many years running (he now has multiple spots on that same block).
Barry's rules for his place are pretty basic:
-No under@ge chicas.
-Don't break shit.
-No loud, out of control parties and music blasting that will pi $$ off the local neighbors.
I've never had any security-related issues either. As he mentioned above, most of your security concerns will come from those you let into your gates (chicas) as opposed to those outside them.
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As the night went on (since my apartment was 2 blocks away, I had no problem committing to Gusto's for the night), I would check in on the girls who were not with someone and ask them how things were going. They were usually less optimistic than before and would ask me if I found a date yet. I would always give an answer that was intended to plant a seed in their head. I'the say, "It's not important for me to find someone to go home with me, I just enjoy the music and talking to interesting people, if I can help someone with their bills, then that's good too!" Usually the guard begins to come down at that point (this is about 1 am). On this particular night, Gusto's closed early. I think 2 am. Then as I began to draw them in, I'the say good night and walk away. To go home. Right before closing I'the text to see if they found a date. They asked if I had company and if I wanted to see them. I would adjust the price to the 3 HR rate of 150 mil plus taxi, they'the counter with 200 mil and we'the seal the deal.
[/QUOTE]Opportunity cost. Is that what it's called? She might as well be earning something.
Last trip to Medellin as I reported a tall blonde wanted 600 k. She was telling everyone that because I saw multiple guys just walk away from her. I asked and then also ended up walking away. I met her the SAME night at The Beer Store when she walked by and she quickly agreed to my offer of 200 k. I think early in the night they start high in Gusto but always go low at the end if they don't catch anything.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2103077]What are the area codes? The numbers on the pictures on milieroticos don't show up on my whatsapp when I put +57 as the area code.[/QUOTE]The +57 is the country code, the first three numbers are the area code.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2103343]I've been staying with Barry and Poblado Rentals way back when he only had one spot on Calle 8 and you'd be the only gringo on the block at the time. Never had any issues staying with them on every trip many years running (he now has multiple spots on that same block).
Barry's rules for his place are pretty basic:
-No under@ge chicas.
-Don't break shit.
-No loud, out of control parties and music blasting that will pi $$ off the local neighbors.
I've never had any security-related issues either. As he mentioned above, most of your security concerns will come from those you let into your gates (chicas) as opposed to those outside them.[/QUOTE]I think it's pretty basic the rules. We aren't trying to keep your security. I don't want anything bad happening to you. If normally 3 women don't go home with you on Tuesday night at 2 am in your town chances are they are up to no good here. Common sense is the key to travel. Doesn't matter where. Use the safe. Take a photo of a strange womens ID. Don't leave out a ton of things to steal. If you find yourself in a place with no safe hide it in the cook ware no working girl will look there it's there kryptonite or in the cleaning supplies. DO NOT EXPECT 200 meg internet speeds, bring your own android box with kodi if you like to watch tv during the down time. Try and meet normal chicks and if that strikes out have a plan B. Tinder is alive and well here. Try that. Free always is better. Manners go a long way here. Don't be miserable on your vacation. Million guys wish they were you. Go with the flow you never know when the water will turn off or electric. So just go with the flow.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2103077]What are the area codes? The numbers on the pictures on milieroticos don't show up on my whatsapp when I put +57 as the area code.[/QUOTE]Thats correct, better use the ones who have what's app. Use +57 and the number.
[QUOTE=Sho423;2103077]What are the area codes? The numbers on the pictures on milieroticos don't show up on my whatsapp when I put +57 as the area code.[/QUOTE]Either 1 of 2 things is happening. Either you input the number into your phone incorrectly (I have done this plenty of times) or the chica.
Doesn't use WhatsApp (didn't set up an account with that number)!
Hope this helps.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2103168]How well do you speak Spanish and how successful are you at picking up girls in bars where you live? If you're not picking up the hot girls at home, you won't be picking them up in Medellin.
If you don't speak decent Spanish, you won't be picking them up here. If you're young, fit, handsome and dress right, you'll have a better chance. If you're willing to talk to one or more Colombian guys (and you can tell the guys having fun with friends from the guys on dates) and can connect with them, you have a better chance.
Of course picking up a regular girl in Colombia is usually not the same as in the US, where you make your move and 2 hours later, you're in her bed. Here you'll spend several hours talking, dancing and drinking and get a phone number, or an invite to join them again. The phone number will get you a date, which will get you another date. Depending on the girl, one of those dates will get you in her bed.
If you're spending a few days in Medellin, trying to pick up regular girls is a great way to save on condoms, because you won't have an opportunity to use one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I speak Spanish and I tend to do good in the US picking up girls.
I have a some girls that I lined up on [URL]colombiancupid.com[/URL] but can't tell if they are regular girls or prepagos at this point. I guess I'll find out. Worse case scenario, prepagos will win in the end! I'm only going there for a week so it seems like a lot of work for these regular girls. Haha.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2103403]Either 1 of 2 things is happening. Either you input the number into your phone incorrectly (I have done this plenty of times) or the chica.
Doesn't use WhatsApp (didn't set up an account with that number)!
Hope this helps.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]One's that have what's app are in green and grey I believe are not. And it's easy to input wrong. Make sure you use a "+" then 57 and then the number.
Greetings to all! Just finished a 5-dayer in Medellin, my first trip to there. Most of my experience has been in Asia, but with mileage awards and some 5 years of high-school Spanish many years ago I figured it's a good time to check out South America. Thanks to all who have posted reports with useful info that helped me there, and it's in that same spirit that I'll try to drop a few tidbits here in hopes they *might* be of value to someone. I don't exactly break a lot of new ground or run up high scores compared to the experienced mongerers, but hopefully there's a tip or detail that can be valuable in filling things in.
Flew the Surly Skies of Spirit on an award ticket, for which they still have a lot of nickel-and-dime fees, making the actual all-in $158.16 with a bag, a window seat near the back in both directions, all the taxes, etc. Plane from Ft. Lauderdale was 100% full. Immigration was about a 50-minute wait and they're doing construction in the holding pen. It's not that they were taking a lot of time with each person, but that three flights had arrived roughly at the same time and that was causing the surge. Got some money at the airport out of the Bancolombia ATM there (small line), which didn't charge on that end, and then got some water at a snack bar just to get even smaller bills and have exact change for the taxi. Was easy to get one of the blue and white ones to go to Poblado for the official 65 K.
The hotel in El Poblado turned out to be a pretty good pick. It was the Hostal Relax 10, right on Calle Diez about a block from Parque Lleras. It's about halfway between a hostel and a hotel, with both shared rooms and private ones. I got one of the highest-end private ones, a deluxe double with a king bed, nice TV and a cramped ensuite bathroom, at $23/ night. They were OK with joiners and would not charge extra if you booked a double room, the clerk explained, but they would have to register them and wouldn't let them go without the guest's permission. All of which was cool, and similar to what I was familiar with in Asia. A few rooms had windows to the street, while others, like mine, had windows to the inside. No climate control, but it's Medellin. Booked on William Shatner's old site.
I had too much circadian-rhythm disruption the first night to partake of much, but I did walk around the Parque area on a Wednesday night. Generally subdued, some places open and greater visibility of maybe a dozen or two "compania" girls who'd happily go back.
The next day I walked down to the train and got on it to Prado and walked along Av. Oriental to the outer side streets to find New Life. Be warned it's just like Amsterdam and the privehuizen in that everything is TOTALLY discreet for these places and there's NO signage (not even an identifier on a mailbox), so it all looks like just a regular residential neighborhood. And you've GOT to have the exact street address, including the numbers (e. G. 48-39). And with New Life the tip about the blue door helped.
They buzz you in and you go to a waiting area and the lineup comes out one-by-one, shaking your hand and giving a name. Hard to remember all that and I didn't get some of the names right (they get annoyed if they have to bring them out again). There were 2 locals in the area at the same time and one took the one that was going to be my first choice, Jennifer, so I had to go to the second choice and didn't get the name just so but I think it was Natalie. As has been mentioned, they have posted prices and you can also get a beer.
She did a workmanlike routine with the CBJ, but I was disappointed in my own performance after that. Too much walking, no blue pill, wrong time of day, whatever. No lead in the pencil, so she went to massage for about 5 minutes and then the 30 was up. Damage at 50 K, so might as well work out the kinks at that pricing point.
Regrouped, walked around streets on the other side, near Parque Bolivar, got something to eat and tried Club Paris. Again, no signage and just had to walk in an open door and past curtains, but the place had a more laid-back and family-run kind of feel (if such a thing is possible in that business). Only about 6 or so girls and again I botched the names, but the clear choice on appearance was a 20-something Morena with black hair and a slightly enhanced Kardashi-butt. Also great attitude, it turned out. I had pre-loaded the blue pill and paid for the full hour at 60 K (a good deal under circumstances). She was up for a lot of pounding and the butt effect was kind of a new sensation from behind, but the tightness wasn't totally there. That, a slight bit of stomach unease and the copious sweat factor (as places are never air-conned, so humidity can bring out sweat) all just barely prevented a leche. Just can't do like in 20's and 30's, I guess. But she did the good GFE part and I gave about a 10 K propina.
Next day I tried Zandalay, which isn't far from Paris and is on the inside blocks near the bend in Ave. Oriental. Another ajar door with no markings and this time walking up stairs, to a bar area with music playing and maybe 8 girls sitting around. Also maybe a couple of regulars. The snarky mamasan switched off the music and had the girls do the introductions. Again I just got puzzled looks when I said what sounded like the name of someone, and I added "proximo al ultimo" but they just had to trot out 2 or 3 again and I selected the one. Snarky kind of vibe, so I opted only for the 30 minutes at 42 K, IIRC. Girl was a braces-wearing 20-year old with maybe an A size up-top after clothes came off. She was tightest so far but too dry. Which brought up the point to BRING LUBE. Even a small K-why tube is COP 18 K, which is a bit pricey relative to incomes and explains why even the girls that carry it have exhausted their supply. This one wasn't conscious that she was too dry.
Last place was Paris again and this time Juliana was there, so I picked her for the hour based on a recommendation here. The upstairs room used seemed impossibly narrow. Juliana is a bit older and has enhanced bags, and of a larger size but proportional, reminding me of the legendary Lek of soi 6 in Pattaya. Sometimes it's worth it to go with this type of person, especially if she's had a longer career in places where they are usually shorter (as that SOMETIMES indicates performance specialties that can bring repeat business and lengthen careers. A few girls "get" this but most won't).
Anyway, she's a curvy, very physical person and will do her share of the pounding (I. E. No starfish) and has kind of a cute cross-eyed look as well. And a "what it takes" attitude to bring about the final result, which proved decisive in the end. Also well prepared. I gave her also a propina.
So Club Paris was the best in a limited range of places tried. YMMV. I disappointed myself with my own performance (don't use it and you lose it, I guess, plus creeping aging). But there was the touristy stuff also competing for time / attention during the days, which seemed crammed because of fitting in the massage places as well. But I never did try a nightcap with the "compania" girls or bring one back to the hotel, though I did have enough energy for a nice meal or two and some people-watching from the Beer Store right across from the park (their "Black Hong Kong" was a good martini drink). All the walking caught up on the first day, and there was also the World Series game. So many distractions! As others have mentioned, the weekend crowds around Parque Lleras are really substantial, though as in the U.S. the non-pro girls who aren't with dates tend to run in packs and you need Spanish + game + likely a wingman to crack that, which is the same formula as in the U.S.
The other activities also proved worthwhile, like the Museo de Antioquia and the Botero works, or taking the train and Metro Cable to Parque Arvi (a real must-do, IMO), or even the open-air double-decker Turibus around town. Next time Guatupe and the coffee areas.
[QUOTE=Ploughman;2103867]Greetings to all! Just finished a 5-dayer in Medellin, my first trip to there. Most of my experience has been in Asia, but with mileage awards and some 5 years of high-school Spanish many years ago I figured it's a good time to check out South America. Thanks to all who have posted reports with useful info that helped me there, and it's in that same spirit that I'll try to drop a few tidbits here in hopes they *might* be of value to someone. I don't exactly break a lot of new ground or run up high scores compared to the experienced mongerers, but hopefully there's a tip or detail that can be valuable in filling things in.
Flew the Surly Skies of Spirit on an award ticket, for which they still have a lot of nickel-and-dime fees, making the actual all-in $158.16 with a bag, a window seat near the back in both directions, all the taxes, etc. Plane from Ft. Lauderdale was 100% full. Immigration was about a 50-minute wait and they're doing construction in the holding pen. It's not that they were taking a lot of time with each person, but that three flights had arrived roughly at the same time and that was causing the surge. Got some money at the airport out of the Bancolombia ATM there (small line), which didn't charge on that end, and then got some water at a snack bar just to get even smaller bills and have exact change for the taxi. Was easy to get one of the blue and white ones to go to Poblado for the official 65 K.
The hotel in El Poblado turned out to be a pretty good pick. It was the Hostal Relax 10, right on Calle Diez about a block from Parque Lleras. It's about halfway between a hostel and a hotel, with both shared rooms and private ones. I got one of the highest-end private ones, a deluxe double with a king bed, nice TV and a cramped ensuite bathroom, at $23/ night. They were OK with joiners and would not charge extra if you booked a double room, the clerk explained, but they would have to register them and wouldn't let them go without the guest's permission. All of which was cool, and similar to what I was familiar with in Asia. A few rooms had windows to the street, while others, like mine, had windows to the inside. No climate control, but it's Medellin. Booked on William Shatner's old site..[/QUOTE]Well done Ploughman. Sounds like you managed a pretty good trip. Good report.
There have been a few reports that the police are trying to keep working girls out of the Park itself. Either the police are really bad at this task, or the reports aren't currently true. I walk through the park late night, between 11:30 and 3:30, 3 or 4 times a week and there are always a few.
Usually there are 2 or 3 across the street from Lleras Town, in the park and on weekends there are some hanging out beside the closed bar, just west of Lleras Town. You can also find them close to Juan Valdez, in the center of the Park and near Habanas.
Besides Gusto, you might try La Clinica. They usually have free drinks for chicas.
I've seen a few girls on Carrera 37 between the park and Calle 10.
They are out there.
[QUOTE=Ploughman;2103867]Greetings to all! Just finished a 5-dayer in Medellin, my first trip to there. Most of my experience has been in Asia, but with mileage awards and some 5 years of high-school Spanish many years ago I figured it's a good time to check out South America. Thanks to all who have posted reports with useful info that helped me there, and it's in that same spirit that I'll try to drop a few tidbits here in hopes they *might* be of value to someone. I don't exactly break a lot of new ground or run up high scores compared to the experienced mongerers, but hopefully there's a tip or detail that can be valuable in filling things in.[/QUOTE]Good write up, man!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2103966]There have been a few reports that the police are trying to keep working girls out of the Park itself. Either the police are really bad at this task, or the reports aren't currently true. I walk through the park late night, between 11:30 and 3:30, 3 or 4 times a week and there are always a few.
[/QUOTE]The emphasis is on few there. The cops discourage it and when there's a dignitary in town they try to clear it out completely.
Does anyone know if The Beer Store currently has hookers sitting at the tables? When I was there back in April there were a few but I don't think they would actually go home with customers. The server told me they were brought in to keep customers drinking.