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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104765]1000 after midnight.
If you see a girl you want to barfine at 10 pm you're much better off paying the regular barfine rate than buying a Sensations girl drinks for 2 hours trying to save 500 on barfine.[/QUOTE]Or just go to Soi 6 where the price is 1300 Baht total (300 barfine plus 1000 tip).
Although many of the girls are marginal to ugly, there definitely were some cuties there. Those cuties would not have been out of place at Sensations.
At Sensations, in addition to the barfine, you need to pay the mandatory tip. Mamasan had a small notebook with the prices listed. I couldn't read it since it was kind of dark. I think it was 3000 or 3500. That's above my budget. Angeles, here I come.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud;2104794]At Sensations, in addition to the barfine, you need to pay the mandatory tip. [/QUOTE]Never paid a tip to a mamasan in any gogo bar in Pattaya. There is simply no need to do this.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2104770]Report on youtube saying that the police are shooing them off for the month of November maybe longer.[/QUOTE]
I'm predicting all of high season. 2 nights in a row now I have been on the baht bus coming home from Walking Street. 2 pairs of different girls hop on to a bus load of men. On both occasions, the girls flirted with the men and were picked up. I've had this happen to me on occasion in the past. Maybe this was just by coincidence I saw this on 2 consecutive baht bus rides home or maybe it's the new way freelancers are plying their trade.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104810]Never paid a tip to a mamasan in any gogo bar in Pattaya. There is simply no need to do this.[/QUOTE]He is talking about how in Pattaya one has to pay a barfine then give separate money to the girl, whereas in Angeles City everything is included in the barfine and there is no need to give anything to the girl. She receives her part of the money later from the bar. As he alluded to, AC is way cheaper than Pattaya if you are going to play the gogo bar side of the game. I think the most you will have to come off for a gogo chick in AC is 3500 pesos (2260 baht). And that is for LT. There really is no ST option in AC. It is just the one cost for how long you want to keep her up to the rest of the day/night.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2104816]There really is no ST option in AC. It is just the one cost for how long you want to keep her up to the rest of the day/night.[/QUOTE]True, except that in recent years a lot of the girls have decided that they'd rather duck out early, and have come up with dozens of ways to do it. You can insist that they stay the night but they'll make sure it's not going to be much fun for either of you.
My attitude at this point is that if they want to go, I just let them. But if you're both having a good time and they want to stay, that's just a nice bonus. The only problem then is getting rid of them the next day.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104810]2 nights in a row now I have been on the baht bus coming home from Walking Street. 2 pairs of different girls hop on to a bus load of men. On both occasions, the girls flirted with the men and were picked up. I've had this happen to me on occasion in the past. Maybe this was just by coincidence I saw this on 2 consecutive baht bus rides home or maybe it's the new way freelancers are plying their trade.[/QUOTE]LOL good this sounds better at least you can talk to them and size them up a bit more. I've never seen this. Keep us posted.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104634]Freelancers live update from beach road at 8 pm. Total count. ZERO.[/QUOTE]
That's disturbing. Does anybody know a reason for this? Is there a big police crackdown going on?
Some people say it's for "the month of November", but why, what sense does it make (it's not a holiday). Is it an attempt at a permanent crackdown? I wonder why there's no more info about this.
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Beach Rd.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2104770]Report on youtube saying that the police are shooing them off for the month of November maybe longer.[/QUOTE]I just checked with another Beach Rd freelancer tonight (she was sitting outside Central Festival on the land side of Beach Rd) and she said exactly the same as what another girl said to me a week ago: that the beach Road freelancer scene would be back in operation on the 23rd Nov. She said something about boats around the Bali Hai pier near walking street on the 20th Nov: hard to understand her due to her poor English.
So I checked on the internet about this and there is some sort of Thai Navy hosted event (an International Fleet Review to mark Asean's 50th anniversary since its founding) in Pattaya from the 13 to 22nd Nov 2017, so the Beach Rd FL scene closure is probably related to that.
BTW, I took this FL chick ST. I offered 500 baht and she accepted immediately. Excellent fuck too, even if a bit older and a bit chunkier, but pretty face. As I was about to finish in flatdog I thought I would try my luck and asked her if I could bang her up the ass. To which she said I was "too big" and that I needed to "find a ladyboy"!
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[QUOTE=Franga;2105072]I just checked with another Beach Rd freelancer tonight (she was sitting outside Central Festival on the land side of Beach Rd) and she said exactly the same as what another girl said to me a week ago: that the beach Road freelancer scene would be back in operation on the 23rd Nov. She said something about boats around the Bali Hai pier near walking street on the 20th Nov: hard to understand her due to her poor English.
So I checked on the internet about this and there is some sort of Thai Navy hosted event (an International Fleet Review to mark Asean's 50th anniversary since its founding) in Pattaya from the 13 to 22nd Nov 2017, so the Beach Rd FL scene closure is probably related to that.
BTW, I took this FL chick ST. I offered 500 baht and she accepted immediately. Excellent fuck too, even if a bit older and a bit chunkier, but pretty face. As I was about to finish in flatdog I thought I would try my luck and asked her if I could bang her up the ass. To which she said I was "too big" and that I needed to "find a ladyboy"![/QUOTE]Based on this information the place to go for freelancers is directly to the eye of the storm. Bali Hai Pier.
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Beach Road Freelancers
Just exchanged a few Line messages with a freelancer who wanted to set up a date tonight. She said they have been chased off the water side of Beach Road but she hasn't yet had problems on the land side. She said she will be between Central Festival and Soi 12.
I didn't tell her that I'm back in USA. Perhaps she will provide more information later.
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Soapy tips
Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?
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[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]0. IMHO it is already a ripoff, but is something that must be experienced at least once for the novelty of it. Whatever the price you paid, she gets at least half of it already. Now a normal massage chick that is getting 100 out of the 200 that you paid for the hour, of course she needs a tip, but the soapy girl that got 1250 out of the 2500 that you paid for the 90 minutes not so much.
But I understand that many westerners feel obliged to give extra money for everything. Why do most people tip the taxi driver, but not the bus driver? Why do most people tip the person that served them at the restaurant, but not the person that served them in the airplane? Why don't most people tip their doctor or dentist, when they are providing the most valuable services that you will ever need in life?
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[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]I was cheaper. I only paid the 2400 demanded upfront.
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Beach Road
Yes, they've chased them off beach road. They've moved across the street. Some are working the WS discos. It's because of ASEAN International Fleet Review. Nov 13-22.
[URL]http://aseanifr2017.com/[/URL]
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G Club Crawl
I hit the Soi Love Inn G-Clubs yesterday at 5 p. I was a bit disappointed. There were better and more ladies back in April. Club 4 only had 4 present. Slightly better line up in 007, with 6 ladies present. However the best of the bunch was a 35 yr old, with a smokin figure. Pirates had about 8 present. One Hottie with boltons was the best one there but she was busy. I didn't see her initially, safe to assume she's in demand. Older lady kept me occupied, and tried very hard to convince me to take her. I held out because I wanted to see the Carre Blanc lineup: They were the oldest of the bunch. Hit it off with a 36 yr old, with a hot body, who turned out to be a nympho. Had a Great time with her. Carre Blanc and Pirates were the busiest with customers.
I didn't go into J Club nor Club Sin.
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Soapy Tipping
[QUOTE=FastBuckArtist;2105358]Fellas, what do you tip the girls at the soapy massage places? I went to the Sabai Dee soapy and tipped the girl 1000 plus paid 2000 to the establishment. She seemed to expect more. Was I too cheap?[/QUOTE]Actually she was the Fast Buck Artist not you despite your handle. Those of us who do tip give B200-300 in a soapy with B500 being a max tip for a great experience. B1000 is way too much for sure. She was trying to take advantage of you. I never have exceptional soapy experiences now. I seldom read about exceptional soapy experiences here too. Can't recall the last great soapy report. Soapies used to be my favorite venue. I didn't go to a soapy (other than to look at the line-up) on my last two Thai trips. The Lord in BKK is now on my bucket list after reading reports of beautiful girls there.