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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1429627]You are a marketing mans dream. I can imagine you walking in to a car showroom and being talked in to buying the exact same car as your neighbour for twice the price. You'll park your car in your drive with a smug look on your face but who is the winner here? Certainly not you, it's your neighbour and the garage owner. This is an analogy by the way.
Joking aside, it's a naive comment, Do you know what 'supply and demand' is and how it might affect prices? Do you understand how the industry works and how the prettiest girls don't just magically appear on the stage of the top gogo bar on their arrival in Bangkok? Do you realise that the same girls you pay 2000/2500 for from a gogo bar can be found freelancing in Nana Liquid for half the price? Same girl, different price.[/QUOTE]I am glad you were joking since no one is picking a girl purely because she is the most expensive, unless off their rocker. Its simply you choose a girl that you like or appeals, and then not always surprised to learn that she is not so cheap. In gogo bars however, I rarely negotiate a price. It seems that it is expected I will pay fairly. Even my most recent Baccarat girl who could not remember me from a previous year when I went with her, did not negotiate the short time price.
Okay true the prices do vary by location. A girl who cannot stand the idea of working in a regimented gogo bar even if free-lancing could go for less in her chosen free-lancing environment. Why she would want to go for half price is a little hard to understand, other than as you say too many girls and not enough customers. Once girls know they are well above average they will start charging above average though, unless they are too shy to do so.
I am certainly used to the best lookers in Soapies being generally significantly more expensive than the plain Janes.
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]A few Truly gorgeous ones doing street level work? Could have been ladeeboys-some are Truly gorgeous.[/QUOTE]There were plenty of Lady Boys mixed in with the real girls as there are in all the other areas I visited in Bangkok, I was not talking about the Lady Boys.
Thank you for letting us know you find Lady Boys gorgeous but they are not for me and likely of no interest to most of the others here.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]Sorry I just don't buy into that. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wasn't selling anything, just reporting on my experiences and suggesting this area might be worth a look for those adventurous types in search of freelancers as I had good luck there.
Take a look or don't, it won't bother me either way.
By the way, what is your preferred location for picking up hot B1000 freelancers?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]And to top it of they leave price UP 2 U. LOL. Thos e who use this line are usually not that in demand and hoping for guy to way overpay![/QUOTE]Any guy can overpay or not, it is truly "Up to you". I choose to not overpay, how about you? Never gave a BKK freelancer more than B1000. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]I'm in bed at 2am.[/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't mean to disturb your sleep.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]I think whats available on the streets I s what you find in the bars and massage parlours less the hot and desireable ones. LOL. In other words those who were on display for 5 hours and had no takers. LOL.[/QUOTE]You sure "LOL" a lot.
I remember one post from you a month or so back where you did not "LOL". I was shocked! No joke.
Nice speculation on your part, but if you are in bed at 2AM you will never really know, will you? I was only recommending that someone might want to take a look, if you have no desire to do so no problem, you seem to have the whole BKK thing worked out to your satisfaction, congratulations to you and enjoy your experiences as you see fit.
Hmmm, by "in bed at 2AM" do you mean in bed sleeping? Because if you mean you are in bed fucking I have to add that while in Thailand I was generally in bed at 1PM.
And at 4PM.
And also at around 6PM.
And again at 10 PM.
And sometimes at 2AM.
Plus or minus an hour or two in any direction on any given day.
My report was based on my visit to Bangkok during low season and at that time most of the bars I went to (and high end massage places like Nataree since you mentioned massage places) had more than 10 girls for every guy in the place. Baccara probably had 30 girls for every guy. I think with this kind of man to woman ratio there will be plenty of girls who do not get picked, and at bars like Baccara and Shark where there are lots of good looking women it would seem many of the hot ones might end up not getting picked on any given evening. My guess was maybe the girls in Soi Cowboy would spill into a nearby area after closing, just a guess and any additional input based on your experience is welcome.
If you have valid intel on where the unpicked hotties go after Shark and Baccara close please do share with the rest of us as I am sure it would be useful info for many of us and greatly appreciated, if they do not fill the area surrounding Cowboy as happens at Nana Plaza then by all means tell us all where. If it is inconceivable that they might pour into the surrounding area Nana Car Park style I understand, but where do they go? Tell us, Harold, for the love of GOD, PLEASE TELL US!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]I walk between nana bts and asok all the time at various times of the day-not once have i seen a walker of the street who is anything i would want to pay for.lol[/QUOTE]Did not walk that area during the day, only 10PM to Midnite. Probably the same hours you spend at Rainbow 4 pining away for your regular barfine / crush.
Have you EVER seen a street walker in Bangkok that you were willing to pay for? Any beautiful ones? Any that were at least cute? Where did you see them? This would be useful information that some of us would be interested in, so please do share some of your knowledge. You seem to spend a lot of time in Bangkok, you must have tons of useful information to share with the rest of the class.
So you have never seen a FL on Suk you would be willing to pay for, I did not see anything in Rainbow 4 I was willing to pay for, I think we may call the rule of "to each their own" into play here and move on, although I bet if you showed me the 2 or 3 girls at Rainbow 4 you thought were beautiful and if I showed you the 2 or 3 FLs I found among the hundreds on Suk that I thought were beautiful I would bet we might find some common ground.
For the record, I did see a couple of great looking girls at Rainbow 4 (though not nearly as many as at Shark and Baccara) and went there mostly because you are constantly writing about the place. Did not take anyone from Rainbow 4 or any bar because of the high prices and was able to find ladies just as lovely in both NCP and on Suk. If you have not had the same experience I understand and empathize, but surely you realize that just because you have never seen or experienced something does not mean it does not exist?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1430313]I respect all opinions.lool. .[/QUOTE]I am sure you respect the opinions of others exactly as much as others here respect your opinions.
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Simple logic sugests:
Feed a pigeon, it will be back day after day dropping it's disgusting parasitical waste, and then it LOL. Stop doing so if you want said pigeon to migrate elsewhere. LOL.
Our former Mayor Livingstone, London, adopted this policy and it resolved the issue.
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[QUOTE=Linkwray666; 1430305]Dammit. Such a long winded report and I still managed to leave out something RE: freelancers.
Hunting was good at Nana Car Park of course, delicious fish in a barrel. Also easy to find some really nice gems walking Sukhumvit Road from Nana BTS to Asok BTS heading to and from Soi Cowboy, sampled on various nights of the week between 10PM and 12Midnite or so. A large concentration of ladies with at least one or two lookers in front of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel / Thermae at all times I visited, also found a couple of super friendly beauties amongst the many many ladies in the few blocks between Thermae and Asok / Ratchadaphisek. Taking a casual stroll there the ladies approached me one after another, a nice low pressure / low cost smorgasbord of womanflesh. All types here, from the most plain to the girl next door to cute and sassy ones to some real hotties to a few truly gorgeous ones and prices are generally "up to you". I did not visit this area late night but would guess there might be many more to choose from just after Soi Cowboy shuts down, similar to NCP at closing time?[/QUOTE]Quality freelancers can definitely be found. I stayed in Nana Hotel. Not the best hotel but the location is great and I liked walking past the freelancers in the car-park whenever I went anywhere. Most are quite rough of course but I saw some surprisingly nice ones. One evening I wanted to take a photo of the new Nana Plaza sign for my diary but when I zoomed in I noticed that I had also snapped various freelancers in the car-park. It's not the best photo but the girl in the leopard-print top was pretty. She was young, had a nice body and if you put her on stage in Rainbow 4 with a 2500 price on her head, the class clown would be drooling!
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No tips for me on this subject?
[QUOTE=Puttex; 1429742]I soon of to Bangkok and I am sooo looking forward to it!
I'm going 10 days all alone.
I want to be able to get girls in some way all 24/7 but were to go in what time...[/QUOTE]
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The Strip in Patpong
Anyone knows what happends behind he curtins in the private booths?
It cost 400bath to go in there whit a girl but you get any in there or you can just tuch them or what?
Anyone here tried it?
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[QUOTE=Noddy; 1430385]Feed a pigeon, it will be back day after day dropping it's disgusting parasitical waste, and then it LOL. Stop doing so if you want said pigeon to migrate elsewhere. LOL.
Our former Mayor Livingstone, London, adopted this policy and it resolved the issue.[/QUOTE]As I recall the good Mayor also used birds of prey to tear the pigeons limb from limb and some say he used poison as well. I like the idea of feeding them things that make them explode as this seems to be good fun, and if you can simply blow their little minds and render them incapacitated that is always pretty neat too. Or maybe it would be more entertaining to just laugh at the silly pigeons until they leave voluntarily?
Just having some fun, and point well taken.
Erm, unless I am the pigeon in question, in which case I shall try to be more careful where I leave my droppings.
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Star of Light
Question:
Do they give BBBJ in SOL or are they always covered?
Johnie,
Fellow Monger.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1430267]If only it was that easy, I'd use it more often. I have that cockroach "Harold444" on [i]ignore mode[/i] For years now but the insect keeps showing up everytime someone quotes him. He's like a bad case of Herpes, he always keeps coming back.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. But I guess actually herpes are more easy to keep down atleast compare to this H444. He will never go away. If he goes away from his carecenter I guess some nurse or his mother steps in.
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Visit by indian
I am Indian. Working in Middle East. Today I am starting about my trip to LOS. There are 3 reasons for that.
First, I have seen mongering scene at Bahrain, Dubai, Delhi and Kathmandu. With my apologies to all most of blogs / websites and forums seems more biased and full of information by interested parties possibly attached to hotel and tourism industries.
Secondly there is lot of racial remarks. Stinky, clumsy, cheap Charlie Indian. I had not found so in Middle East or Indian subcontinent. I went to Thailand. I was expecting that lots of girls and gogo bars will refuse to entertain me.
Thirdly you tube / forums and blogs are farang dominated. Internet is not monopoly of farangs; lots of Asian, Indian Iranian and Pakistanis do go and want to learn from net.
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1430469]As I get into BKK late evening, I may just do some street window shopping to see whats available in the wee hours. So many guys say hotties available on the streets for 1000 baht it must be TRUE! Or maybe ill go to a Rainbow and bargain the hell out of a hot girl. LOL.[/QUOTE]They are out there, you will have to walk around a bit which honestly sucks in the heat and you have to keep your eyes open but in my experience / opinion there were 2-3 keepers out of the hundreds I saw on the street each night.
Worth it if you enjoy the hunt, I enjoy walking and looking for hidden gems even if I do not find any but yes it is much easier fish-in-a-barrel hunting if you just go to a nice air conditioned bar, sip an overpriced drink and pay the extra money for the barfine. As I mentioned earlier, on my next trip I will be focusing more on bargirls and will probably take them from Shark, Baccara, and Rainbow.
I love the thrill of finding a bargain, but if there were none I found worth doing on the street of course I would have paid the extra money and taken the girls in the bars, I am not exactly a Cheapie Charlie (I do not haggle, I am happy to spend money on the girls who I have been advised will be amazing performers at places like Snow White and Devil's Den, I tip well when it is well deserved) but I also see no point in being a Wasteful Wally and overpaying for something that is available just outside the bar doors (or within a short walk) for far less.
You may call me Thrifty Theodore.
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Greetings
[QUOTE=IndianVisit; 1430736]I am Indian. Working in Middle East. Today I am starting about my trip to LOS. There are 3 reasons for that.
First, I have seen mongering scene at Bahrain, Dubai, Delhi and Kathmandu. With my apologies to all most of blogs / websites and forums seems more biased and full of information by interested parties possibly attached to hotel and tourism industries.
Secondly there is lot of racial remarks. Stinky, clumsy, cheap Charlie Indian. I had not found so in Middle East or Indian subcontinent. I went to Thailand. I was expecting that lots of girls and gogo bars will refuse to entertain me.
Thirdly you tube / forums and blogs are farang dominated. Internet is not monopoly of farangs; lots of Asian, Indian Iranian and Pakistanis do go and want to learn from net.[/QUOTE]Welcome to ISG. We are a rather eclectic group. Mongering is about the only thing we all have in common. You'll encounter some great guys and some total a$$holes; most of us fall somewhere in between these two extremes. We fight, bicker, insult and occasionally try to be helpful to one another. Looking forward to your perspective and contributions to the forum.
If you're diligent about RTFF (taking everything you read with a grain of salt) and ask intelligent questions, you will learn a great deal on this forum and have a much more enjoyable time in Thailand.
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Never heard of that.
Unless you ask for it covered it would always be BBBJ and then some.
[QUOTE=Johnie; 1430452]Question:
Do they give BBBJ in SOL or are they always covered?
Johnie,
Fellow Monger.[/QUOTE]