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[QUOTE=Artvand1;2771075]Have anyone ever met one of your family members (say, cousins, uncles, etc.) in an FKK? I know the odds are so little LOL, but wanted to know what can one do if we we ever get into this awkward situation. Had a dream last night about this.[/QUOTE]Yes, I met my daughter. Easy, I negotiated for anal, CIM and took her to room.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771306]Club is good. Girls are very average. French kissing are rare. On Italians level for sex.[/QUOTE]Where would you recommend? Very average isn't what I'm looking for necessarily. I'm open to anything in Germany or surrounding countries but prefer Germany.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2771368]Where would you recommend? Very average isn't what I'm looking for necessarily. I'm open to anything in Germany or surrounding countries but prefer Germany.[/QUOTE]I would consider the source of your information when making decisions. Although all recommendations are somewhat subjective, consider if the source is making an attempt to make recommendations somewhat from the point of another person. Welcum on average is better than any club in Germany but the girls there are not in the business of making regulars so there will be less pampering of egos. There are many mongers who require the ego stroking in order to recommend a club or girl. Those type will not recommend Welcum. But remove that, then in all respects, Welcum would be a better club than any German club. Especially now with current Frankfurt pricing, it is superior in every way for the monger who does not need for the girl to make him feel that she would drop everything and ignore all other mongers just for him. But for the combination of best optics with pricing and service, Sharks, Oase, Palace, etc cannot beat Welcum at this moment.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2771368]Where would you recommend? Very average isn't what I'm looking for necessarily. I'm open to anything in Germany or surrounding countries but prefer Germany.[/QUOTE]Many clubs in Germany are on higher level for sex than Wellcum which is low level for sex. Switzerland is also on higher level. In Germany, Penelope, Gold, Goldengate, Mainhattan, Sharks and 6 sens stuck to border. In Switzerland, I like Freubad SO where entry + 1 hour sex is 249.230 at Wellcum but not on same level.
[QUOTE=Artvand1;2771075]Have anyone ever met one of your family members (say, cousins, uncles, etc.) in an FKK? I know the odds are so little LOL, but wanted to know what can one do if we we ever get into this awkward situation. Had a dream last night about this.[/QUOTE]No, but I saw someone that I know from my real life. Luckily we never came so close as to never been able to deny it but we were in the club at the same time and we both know.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2771391]I would consider the source of your information when making decisions. Although all recommendations are somewhat subjective, consider if the source is making an attempt to make recommendations somewhat from the point of another person. Welcum on average is better than any club in Germany but the girls there are not in the business of making regulars so there will be less pampering of egos. There are many mongers who require the ego stroking in order to recommend a club or girl. Those type will not recommend Welcum. But remove that, then in all respects, Welcum would be a better club than any German club. Especially now with current Frankfurt pricing, it is superior in every way for the monger who does not need for the girl to make him feel that she would drop everything and ignore all other mongers just for him. But for the combination of best optics with pricing and service, Sharks, Oase, Palace, etc cannot beat Welcum at this moment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771434]Many clubs in Germany are on higher level for sex than Wellcum which is low level for sex. Switzerland is also on higher level. In Germany, Penelope, Gold, Goldengate, Mainhattan, Sharks and 6 sens stuck to border. In Switzerland, I like Freubad SO where entry + 1 hour sex is 249.230 at Wellcum but not on same level.[/QUOTE]I appreciate any and all input and try and gather as much info as I can and then try and pick what I think best meets what I think will be best to my liking.
For me looks are almost top priority along with not just being clock watchers who just want you done and gone. And I don't need to have a chick stroke my ego or pretend like I am anything special but I do prefer women who will chit chat a little bit before or after. Price is least of my concern as most of these clubs are all going to be relatively close in price per nut.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771434]Wellcum ...is low level for sex.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Please define "low level for sex".
[QUOTE=Shark16;2771615]Interesting. Please define "low level for sex".[/QUOTE]Mostly small pussies for small size, almost no french kissing, not interesting for sex, low quality for Italians, mostly quickie 30 mn. Germany is by far on higher quality for sex. Wellcum is good for club, but not for girls. 4 visits on October / November while Zoncolan, only 1 room: 100/40 with FK. In Austria, I m pretty sure GT Vienna is higher level for quality of sex, except for foods. No reason for me to go except for preparing and recovering about Zoncolan and wish for Mione on 2023.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2771591]I appreciate any and all input and try and gather as much info as I can and then try and pick what I think best meets what I think will be best to my liking.
For me looks are almost top priority along with not just being clock watchers who just want you done and gone. And I don't need to have a chick stroke my ego or pretend like I am anything special but I do prefer women who will chit chat a little bit before or after. Price is least of my concern as most of these clubs are all going to be relatively close in price per nut.[/QUOTE]Then definitely still Welcum. Optics have always been superior to any German club. Chit chat is much easier as the girls are not in a hustle and bustle environment like the Frankfurt scene. On slow weeknights, girls are much more often seen having drinks with the clients. Like I mentioned, it's a mountain resort club, girls and club vibes match the setting. Definitely feels more upscale than the German clubs. Just so happens that with the Frankfurt price hike, it happens to also be a better deal. Bonus, hotel is attached to the club so you can go back and forth to your room while still wearing your robes without having to step foot outside. You can even bring the girls for a session in your room.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2771676]Then definitely still Welcum. Optics have always been superior to any German club. Chit chat is much easier as the girls are not in a hustle and bustle environment like the Frankfurt scene. On slow weeknights, girls are much more often seen having drinks with the clients. Like I mentioned, it's a mountain resort club, girls and club vibes match the setting. Definitely feels more upscale than the German clubs. Just so happens that with the Frankfurt price hike, it happens to also be a better deal. Bonus, hotel is attached to the club so you can go back and forth to your room while still wearing your robes without having to step foot outside. You can even bring the girls for a session in your room.[/QUOTE]How do I get to Welcum without car?
I would love to go, but it is mostly or all Romanians right?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]Mostly small pussies for small size, [/QUOTE]Sorry, your French poetry is very unclear. What do you mean?
A tight pussy is usually regarded as a quality and a rare find. My little one is above average in size, but the Wellcum girls certainly gave me a good time (tight or more loose). Good pounding and great stamina. Unless I have misunderstood something in your poetry, I would say you are wrong. Dead wrong.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]almost no french kissing, not interesting for sex,[/QUOTE]Somewhat true. We have discussed these cultural differences many times in the past. But.
You cannot say that you cannot find girls who french kiss at Wellcum. I was offered this by several girls. They were not hard to find at all.
And; you seem to forget to mention that french kissing is aldo harder to find at the German clubs post the 2017 law and covid19. The differences between the German and Austrian clubs are not as great as it was 5- 15 years ago.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]low quality for Italians,[/QUOTE]I find it disrespectful to be patronizing Italians. Italians are great lovers. Kinky and fun! And the Wellcum girls respond very well to their demand.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]mostly quickie 30 mn.[/QUOTE]So; for years there have been numerous reports of girls at the German clubs refusing to go for less than 1 hour. Maybe 30 mnts sessions can be regarded as a quality sign for Wellcum?
That said; I have had 30,60 and 90 mnts sessions at Wellcum without any problems at all. No shortchange of time even in a 30 mnts session. And many, many girls seemed very happy to extend sessions. I simply do not see your argument here.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]Germany is by far on higher quality for sex.[/QUOTE]No, it's not. You are simplifying the discussion too much. What is so much better in Germany with regard to the "quality of sex"? Please explain.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2771625]In Austria, I m pretty sure GT Vienna is higher level for quality of sex[/QUOTE]How can you be so sure? Your 20.000 posts mean nothing to me. Is it still true that you have not attended GT Vienna since 2020?
I have been to GT Vienna and Wellcum in both 2021 and 2022. And the quality of sex is basically the same generally speaking. It's all about finding the right girl no matter where you go (luck and charm).
What Sirioja is forgetting to tell is that a gent without regulars at GT Vienna will be quoted 270- 350 E /60 by the first girls when entering GT Vienna. It has been reported by a guy in the Austrian forums who was ripped off 600 E /60 for regular services. I worked hard to get a decent session at 200 E /60. I got better sessions at 140- 170 E /60 at Wellcum.
I know that BlueMoon has plenty of cash to spend and that money does not matter to him. But it needed to be said.
Sirioja also forgets to inform that the line-up at Wellcum is so much larger and diversified than at GT Vienna (70-130 vs 20- 40). So, if optics matters you have a much better choice at Wellcum.
That said, Wellcum has one weakness that cannot be remain untold: The travel is a struggle, and there are no clear alternatives within 60 mnts of travel from the club (Andiamo maybe the exception).
In this context, Germany is a lot better. But if there is no limit of time, then Wellcum is a very clear alternative.
Let's assume that most of us agree that FKK Sharks in Hessen is a "must" for first time visitor. If for some reason BlueMoon want a change, there are three more FKK clubs within 30 mnts of travel by car (Oase, Palace and Mainhattan), which makes the Frankfurt area a great playground for (big and expensive) FKK clubs. Then you have the NRW with its small budgetfriendly sauna clubs only 1- 2 hrs drive away. This is where Blue Moon should keep his focus if Germany is his preference. Add Berlin with Artemis and a rich p4p scene on the side if you must (traditional brothels, massage parlours and more).
[QUOTE=Shark16;2771842]Sorry, your French poetry is very unclear. What do you mean?
A tight pussy is usually regarded as a quality and a rare find. My little one is above average in size, but the Wellcum girls certainly gave me a good time (tight or more loose). Good pounding and great stamina. Unless I have misunderstood something in your poetry, I would say you are wrong. Dead wrong.
That said, Wellcum has one weakness that cannot be remain untold: The travel is a struggle, and there are no clear alternatives within 60 mnts of travel from the club (Andiamo maybe the exception).
In this context, Germany is a lot better. But if there is no limit of time, then Wellcum is a very clear alternative.
Let's assume that most of us agree that FKK Sharks in Hessen is a "must" for first time visitor. If for some reason BlueMoon want a change, there are three more FKK clubs within 30 mnts of travel by car (Oase, Palace and Mainhattan), which makes the Frankfurt area a great playground for (big and expensive) FKK clubs. Then the NRW with its small budgetfriendly sauna clubs is only 1- 2 hrs drive away. This is where Blue Moon should keep his focus if Germany is his preference. Add Berlin with Artemis and a rich p4p scene if you must (traditional brothels, massage parlours and more).[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with some tight pussy. I'm an average sized guy so the tighter the better. Haha.
My only concern with Wellcum as you mentioned is it's not very close to anything. It would be fun to stay a few days though and then maybe go see some places in Germany and hit a few more of the FKKs. What is NRW?
And while I said budget isn't a huge deal I don't want to pay 600/60 or anything like that for FKK sex. Anything that high I'd rather get an escort to come to my hotel for a few hours with some GFE.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2771850]Nothing wrong with some tight pussy.[/QUOTE]Tight pussy is good. But "hollow" pussy is not!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2771813]How do I get to Welcum without car?[/QUOTE]You will be landing in international airports like Vienna or Munich. Add a 4 hrs train ride to Villach. Then add a 40 E tax ride to the club (70 E if not choosing the right taxi company).
You can replace some of the train ride with airports closer to Villach (Salzburg, Klagenfurt or somewhere in Slovenia). But you will have to figure out yourself if it is cost / time effective (I doubt it).
Mostly pretty Romanian girls, yes, with a few Bulgarian, Italian, Austrian and latinas / blacks, too.