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Hmmm. I'm having problem getting into my previous post to edit, and to follow up, the location more specifically would probably be Puerto Princesa, Palawan. I think the underground river and diving make it the more appealing spot for touristing, unless someone here has better intel. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2014703]I've got five full days (from MNL) in May and am wondering whether that's enough time to visit Palawan. A SW (met in HK) has offered to serve as a tour guide, which would be a plus because she claims to know the place, which looks like an amazing. there much in the way of opportunity to acquire our favorite services? Obviously, I know it's not AC, but I'd rather not be left stranded. Any advice is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]"Never go on trips with anyone you do not love."-Ernest Hemingway (from A Moveable Feast).

Palawan for 5 days a long time. Long, hard minivan ride from P. P. To el Nido, which is a dump of a town, infested by Israelis with their atrocious, rip-off restaurants. The underground cave tour is nothing special and can include hours of waiting for your 15 minutes inside the thing. The island hopping trip around el Nido was no better than others we've done elsewhere. For girls: bring your own: one who's never been there; you don't need a tour guide.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2014819]"Never go on trips with anyone you do not love."-Ernest Hemingway (from A Moveable Feast).

Palawan for 5 days a long time. Long, hard minivan ride from P. P. To el Nido, which is a dump of a town, infested by Israelis with their atrocious, rip-off restaurants. The underground cave tour is nothing special and can include hours of waiting for your 15 minutes inside the thing. The island hopping trip around el Nido was no better than others we've done elsewhere. For girls: bring your own: one who's never been there; you don't need a tour guide.[/QUOTE]Good to know, all around. Drama, as it turns out, has erupted online with the intended target. I believe she is fighting with another of her tricks on FB. Better him than me! Right now my debate is whether to continue with plans (Kunming, China to Manila via Guangzhou -- 9 hours of flying plus the airport time) and stick with Manila (Burgos, Makati whatever) and a few days in AC. Or back to Pattaya (two hour flight to BKK), where the action is always guaranteed. Thai vs. Phils looks are a wash to me, but I do like the possibility of girls speaking English. Choices, choices. Thanks again.

My info is dated but I found there is plenty of available opportunities in Puerto Princessa. Once you get out of PP you will find nothing with the possible exception of Coron (El Nido) where the ISG forum reports that there are limited resources. In PP, I found a trike driver who got me started. He showed me the barracks where some bargirls lived. I gave him 200 p for the info. From that start, I figured out the general availability of the girls. On the main drag leaving the airport, I found an expat bar and the guys in there further informed me. In PP, they had these sex outlets called "Sing-a-longs" which are primitive karaokes. Girls are available for takeout. On the road out of town to the north, I found two bars, their name escapes me, and girls were there as well. One side street somewhere had a string of bars like Blow Road which had slim pickings. If I remember correctly, the Hotel Asia had a disco which I was told gets buzzing late in the evening. I have no patience for that so the info is not tested. The local downtown park, is the name Rizal Park? Has FL's walking about. Then at one end of the park is a dance hall or two which has girls. Some are available as well. As always weekends will be busier than weekdays. I did a lot of fucking in PP. It was unexpectedly expensive. When I went the prices for girls were comparable to Manila.

I did the underground river which is a haul out of PP. I spent time in Port Barton which is really pretty. The jeep takes at least 5 hours. It is an awful drive. Talk to the jeep driver in advance and pay an extra 100 pesos or so to reserve a front seat in the cab. That will make the ride more bearable.

Once visited Brooke's Point, about 4 hours by van south of Puerto Princesa. Reserved two first row seats in the van, just behind the driver. Like my space. BP is out in the boonies. Best resto in town was a little Vietnamese place. Simple "hot springs" resort up in the hills, good for day trip. Nothing fancy. Inexpensive lodgings in town, no running hot water. Plenty of unspoiled province girls, but very shy. A few foreigners retired there. Land very cheap. Conservative place. Did not go back.

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[QUOTE=Pompetus;2014849]My info is dated but I found there is plenty of available opportunities in Puerto Princessa...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel, Pompetus, and for your very reasonable comments on the Filipinas advice board (and much more kindly put than the other reply). Advice I have well taken. Indeed, it is the very same WG who has been X'ed out of my life. Who needs the fucking drama? Life is too short. Shit, at the end of it all, it might just be Patts instead of the Phils. Prolly better to not have their little phinglish-speaking ways working their devilish charm on me. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2014819]Palawan for 5 days a long time. Long, hard minivan ride from P. P. To el Nido, which is a dump of a town, infested by Israelis with their atrocious, rip-off restaurants. The underground cave tour is nothing special and can include hours of waiting for your 15 minutes inside the thing. The island hopping trip around el Nido was no better than others we've done elsewhere. For girls: bring your own: one who's never been there; you don't need a tour guide.[/QUOTE]I disagree wholeheartedly with this opinion of PP. I was there (PP only) in February for 4 days which was about perfect. I cannot say about El Nido, but if you use PP as your base, 4-5 days is perfect. Underground cave is a must see and takes a full day all around. Rent a motorcycle and explore areas on your own. Go far and wide. As another poster just said, there is LOTS of opportunities in PP for our hobby, you will have no problem finding them. The only difference is they don't just fall in your lap like they do in Manlia or AC.

I got back from Philippines just over a month ago, so apologies for not updating sooner.

Overall, my plans didn't entirely go according to plan. Came down with a cold that lasted the while trip and longer the day after I landed, ended up in Davao instead of Cebu (more on that later), and diving wasn't up to scratch for one reason or another.

So last time, I mentioned that my PL girl did turn up to meet me at the hotel in Manila. When we got up to the room, we both took a shower. Separately. After that we're sitting on the couch and it took a little coaxing to get down to business. Started off with some light FK and moving on towards some heavy DFK. She then goes on to give me a BBBJ and without even asking she mixes this in with a lot of BLS, which I like. All this time, she is still wearing her towel, but with a few tugs, I manage to get this off and out of the way. She proceeds to move onto my cock and starts riding me whilst I'm sucking and licking on her tits in between some DFK. We change positions a few times, doggy, reverse cowgirl and finally finishing in mish. After a while of just lying there and getting my breath back, I head for the shower, and this time she joins me, and we end up cleaning each other off.

Next day, we head off to Cagayan de Oro. Once at the hotel room she practically jumps on top of me and is ripping my shorts off. More BBBJ and another heavy session of sex. Only second day with me and she has become a lot less shy than when we first met outside the hotel in Manila, she's even so relaxed that she's walking around the room naked without a second thought.

Day 3 things starts to go downhill a bit. On the way to Camiguin I start getting a headache and I feel a cold starting to come on. About 5 hours later we arrive at the resort and I have a stonking headache. One of the resort staff was kind enough to run down to one of these kiosks run out of someone's home (sorry can't remember the name of those places) and got some paracetamol for me. Took the pills and headed off to bed. I told my girl to go to the bar and have a drink and enjoy herself, but she insisted on staying with me in the room. She woke me up a while later suggesting we go to dinner. Man, I'd been totally out of it. I'd slept for almost 4 hours.

Over the next few days, she saw to my morning glory when we woke up. Depending on what we got up to during the day, we sometimes had an afternoon about and usually a session in the evening. There was one night she got into a strop; turns out she couldn't take a joke. We'de gone out for dinner and drinks with one of the dive instructors at the resort and his Filipino GF. Everyone had had quite a lot to drink, and at one point my girl is saying that she's going to go back with the instructor and I can have his GF. So as a joke I say sure we can do that, I'm bored of you anyway. At the end of the night, back at our room, she's gone off to bed crying. When I ask her what's up, she says that I said she was boring and that I wanted to be with the other girl. Jeez! Well, apart from that one little hiccup, had a pretty good time. Overall good sex, even in the shower. Not done that before. Closest to that I've ever had was a BBBJ from a WG in Singapore whilst showering together.

After Camiguin, we head back to Cagayan and I send her off in a taxi to the airport for her to head home. I had one day in Cagayan and still had this stonking cold which had gotten worse over the days. I'd arranged to meet another one of the PL girls for breakfast; this one was the one claiming to be a student. She turns up at my hotel still wearing her student ID badge, apparently she had an early class. We go off for breakfast at the hotel and then head back to my room. I try the trick of showing her some photos and then trying it on. Got shot down. Tried several times and was getting nowhere. In the end, she says she has to leave for a friend's birthday at the waterfalls. I only manage to get a kiss from her as she's leaving. So maybe that tactic works for some people, but didn't work for me, or at least with this girl. There was another PL girl I'd been chatting to over whatsapp and we were trying to arrange to meet up over coffee after she finished work. At one point she asked if she could bring her friend, and when I told her that I'd prefer if she came alone I didn't hear back from her till the evening when she messaged saying she wasn't feeling too well and was going to go home instead. In the evening I tried looking for some of the bars that had previously been mentioned like New Oro Love, Fantastic, Cora's, Syrens, Bada Bing and a whole lot more. Looked around from Mabini to Plaza Divisoria, and from Burgos to Corales. Could not find any one of the old places mentioned. A lot of massage places around, and judging from the prices you should get at least a happy ending. There was a bar on Cruz Taal near Burgos but I can't remember the name of the place. Wasn't much, had about 6 or so girls working there. They'd take it in turns dancing on stage, all the time looking miserable and not really any good lookers. The place had about twelve to fifteen local guys at any one time, mostly old guys. I just had one drink and then left. Couldn't really handle much more wandering around as the cold was taking its toll, so I just went straight back to the hotel.

Next day I'm heading off to Davao. Report to follow.

Planning during my stay in the Phils I'd go to baguio city by the bus, since it's a 6 hours drive I'm thinking I'd travel by the plane to boracay, the thing is that I couldn't find a way to do so, not sure how to book flights from Baguio. Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=ElNice;2034687]Planning during my stay in the Phils I'd go to baguio city by the bus, since it's a 6 hours drive I'm thinking I'd travel by the plane to boracay, the thing is that I couldn't find a way to do so, not sure how to book flights from Baguio. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Last time I was in and went to Baguio I took a plane from Terminal 4 and flew to San Fernando then got a mate to pick me up.

On the way back to Manila the weather was bad, the plane did not come and it was 9 hrs (not 6 as Cubao on a Friday night was 2 hrs of hell) bus. Make sure you have plenty of reading, listening and a cutie with you.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2034760]Last time I was in and went to Baguio I took a plane from Terminal 4 and flew to San Fernando then got a mate to pick me up.

On the way back to Manila the weather was bad, the plane did not come and it was 9 hrs (not 6 as Cubao on a Friday night was 2 hrs of hell) bus. Make sure you have plenty of reading, listening and a cutie with you.[/QUOTE]Salamat po, after I've thought about it, I changed my mind, it's a lot of hassle I'll waste a lot of time on the road for nothing. I'll try a different city that has a working airport!. I don't like going by the bus and spending a lot of time on the road. Last year I went from kalibu to boracay by the bus and it was hell, even though it was a 1 h:30 drive, but still.

[QUOTE=ElNice;2034687]Planning during my stay in the Phils I'd go to baguio city by the bus, since it's a 6 hours drive I'm thinking I'd travel by the plane to boracay, the thing is that I couldn't find a way to do so, not sure how to book flights from Baguio. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't you consider breaking this arduous 6 hours with are&are stopover in AC? Find a girl in AC and take her along for the ride.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2034908]Wouldn't you consider breaking this arduous 6 hours with are&are stopover in AC? Find a girl in AC and take her along for the ride.[/QUOTE]That's actually not a bad idea, but still I have to think about it. Thanks man.

So you want to bang bang Sabang!

Just back from Sabang, near Puerto Galera, Island of Mindoro. Had a nice time but unless diving the place can become very same ol' same ol' very quickly. Thus the writing of this TR.

The good thing about Sabang is that everything is very close, a matter of fact, due to boredom and for research purposes I walked from furthest point south to furthest point north and that took 24 minutes. At any given time you are 7- 10 minutes away from where you need to go: both a blessing and soon I found out an issue. Also not much to do during the day after diving, island hopping, snorkelling, a few day trips, an adventure park and a golf course. My thinking 7 to 10 days is enough.

Generally speaking accommodation is ok if you stay at the best places, food is surprisingly good if you eat at once again the recommended places and mongering is ample. There is a strong Asian presence here, especially Korean, and there "mongering habits" are refined down to an art form so if you want the pick of the crop you have to play the same game as them (more about that later).

So let's get the basics out the way first and the stuff you really want to know about (the girls) later.

Where and how to get there?

Fly into Manilla then get bus (286 peso) to Batangas Pier. (best option leave from Jam Buendia Bus Terminus, Pasay- close to airport) or Private Van form hotel to Batangas Pier (3,000 – 3,500 peso). Roughly 2 – 3 HR trip depend on traffic.

At Batangas Pier (not Batangas Bus Terminal) let official porters grab you and escort you to ticket counter. Ignore scammers who suggest private banca (boat) to wherever. At Minolo Shiping Lines or Father & Son Lines counter buy ticket (230 peso boat ticket plus environmental fee 50 peso + terminal fee 30 peso) Have small notes as when reach Sabang also fee there too for something about 50 peso again) Before you go check Father & Son website for departure times but realize these are variable. Get there 10/11 sure to be in Sabang by 1 ish. Banca boat takes 45 minutes to 1 hour to go across Verde Passage.

Options of private banca boat or seaplane too. Can go via White Beach, Muelle Pier etc.

Coming back repeat – Can get van from Batangas Pier to airport 3,200 peso. BUT last banca at 2 pm.

So you're on banca boat going to the island of Mindoro and land at Sabang.

Sabang is smaller port to Puerto Galera. Most people (Asians & other) come here to dive. If you don't dive that's ok but as I said life can get pretty boring during the day. (opinion).

Accommodation – lots to choose from – wide range of budget to ok. Best I found Mermaid Hotel, Montani Resort, El Galleon Resort but do your homework. Use booking sites or book direct. High season would book before, low season lots of choice but found walk ins were not cheaper than on line by a great deal. Opinion – stay a little out of the village – south near Tina's place is quiet yet close enough (everywhere is close enough).

Basic Sabang Village and surrounding area layout (notice I said village not town) –Sabang is made up of 3 small bays. The main village is where the boats come in from Batangas. Walking north you have Small La Laguna Bay and Big La Laguna Bay – like I said 24 minutes south to north along foreshore. If you start at furthest point south (Tina's Place) 5 min walk to main village – 13 min walk to Small La Laguna and 24 min walk to Big La Laguna so if you are in the middle approx. 12 min walk to anywhere. So just walk everywhere in and around Sabang.

Transport (if you need to go PG / White Beach etc): Motor Bike Hire or Taxi, Jeapney (20 peso to PG) Trike (300 peso most places) A / see van. Didn't use. Roads are pretty bad so if hire motorbike up to you. At night = crazy!

Food. Many choices- food suprisingly good.

Best. Mermaid Hotel, Big Apple, Pa Pa Fred's Steakhouse (expensive) Western dishes, Korean, Pizza & Pasta, Ice Cream place just opened up. Meals Breakfast 300- 400 peso, lunch 400/500 peso (bar meals) Dinner 500- 700 peso + Got a steak meal at Big Apple for 550 peso.

Cheap Filipina food available too at canteens / outlets. Coffee is crap, bread is crispy roll type, do the old order and see what comes and decide do you like the Filipino version of that food then reject or order in future. BUT. Meals sometimes take ages to come out. Waited 45 minutes once. Standard wait time minimum of 25 minutes.

More to follow.

Ok I'll get to the good stuff soon but bear with me.

When to go. Best time Dec / Jan they tell me. Been there in March = hot, Been there in June / July = bloody hot esp 10 am to 4 pm. During Monsoon season sometimes afternoon or night storms. I was worried about Typhoon but even if it strikes Sabang is quite protected and buildings solid. Only problem " could be " crossing Verde passage in rough weather. Check weather reports 2 days before leaving Sabang. I wouldn't let possible Typhoon put you off low season visitation. Hot weather between 10 and 4 does put you off doing anything else besides in front of air con drinking but depends how you handle the heat.

Crime, safety, scams. Found Sabang, White Beach, PG very safe. Amazed at how people left things around and no stealing took place. (but don't get lax) OBVIOUSLY with everything = KNOW PRICES before you go. Good idea to find a vendor and befriend them and let them do the legwork for you re prices for boats, transport, tours etc. Use hotel staff to recommend prices too. Generally found low scam level. Porters at piers can be pushy. Be prepared to give a firm NO. Everybody else "offers" their services and accepts no ok. Girl scams later. Safe at night, Tourist police are there too on most nights middle of Sabang Village.

Other. Doctor, dentist, Pharmacy on Island, ATM at top of main road out of Sabang near Jack Daniels Hotel (maybe 8 min walk from Sabang Pier) - ATM can go off line, only spits out 10,000 peso so plan. I found bring US dollars / Aust dollars best. 3 Money Changes in main street. Reliable.

When not mongering what to do: SCUBA (of course), snorkeling. All 3 bays but Big La Laguna is best, lay on beach. Only sand section is at Big La Laguna (beach approx 300 m X 10 m wide), Island hoping (boat 1500 peso for 3 hours), day trip to White Beach, Day trip to Tamara Falls (3,500 peso).

Massage 400/500 peso (proper), foot scrub, etc There is an adventure park but didn't go, and a golf course didn't go.

Ok lets get to it: the bars, the girls:

My overall impression of Sabang is nice place to visit once or twice, plenty of supply (on any given night 250 girls to choose from), many 6, 7 and 8's, very few 9 & 10's and these are quickly whisked away by Koreans especially.

I have spent all together 5 wks here at various times and without sounding racially biased and discriminatory but it would appear that Asians and especially Koreans have "tainted" the market and girls performances are not what I would call GFE most of the time.

The usual night scenario is this (and this is what you are competing against) The Asian "sharks" watch the girls walk to the bars at 5:30/6 pm. (some even meet the boats coming in to get the fresh meat) After picking out their chosen target they follow them to the bars and barfine them ASAP. They take them to a restaurant and let them splurge on whatever food and alcohol they want and sit there like King Sh*t mostly ignoring the girls drinking and eating food. After this back to hotel room where the famous 333 happens, they fall asleep, wake up in morning buy them breakfast, tip them high and let them toddle off home.

Now if you're a bar girl, its bloody easy money. Good food, 3 min sex with 3 inch cock, guaranteed 3000 peso with probable 1000 peso tip too. Little effort = big reward. For Asians most girls tell me all they have to do is lay there.

Along comes Australian, American or European and bargirls say WTF I have to work because we won't put up with a starfish and you know which is easier option.

I was interviewing one bargirl at Quantum one night who was giving me a list of what she doesn't do or doesn't like. Now I'm no kinky sex freak but come on honey its a service based industry.

So unfortunately I found on the whole the service was very average as girls have gotten used to servicing sections of the worlds population who have too much money and at home have too little sex. I think you get my drift of what I think of "them" and what they are doing to the market.

Prices: all bars 1500 barfine and 1500 to girl (don't give Mamasan the 3000 straight up) There is no ST & LT- 3000 usually means till next morning. I tip 500 -1000 depend on performance (up to you).

Not many freelancers around but they go for 1000 - 1500. Scattering of ladyboys if that's your thing.

Depending on which bar girls get " pap smeared" every month or 15 weeks. (make of that what you will). The bargirls knowledge of STD and even girls issues is very limited. Generally speaking their knowledge of everything in the world is very limited.

Mamasans and Papasans can be very mean to the girls. Girls live in communal houses or out the back of the bar. What surprised me is that even 10 pesos is a big deal for most girls.

Ok that's enough for now. Detailed report on bars and girls coming next.