Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2633952]That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Like seriously, I have never read a more idiotic comment ever. I don't want to start a fight TK, I am sure your a good guy at heart. I just can't understand how that could even be a logical thought in another persons mind.

Fact- It is absolutely no ones fault in the USA that people from other countries are in poverty. The people of the USA owe nothing to anyone else on this planet. People in poverty from other nations by the millions, are illegally crossing into the USA and spreading a deadly virus.

Opinion- For a very long time, nations went to war for far less.[/QUOTE]Nothing is more predictable. Since the start of the pandemic and with few exceptions it's the strong red states that are leading the way when it comes to confirmed Covid cases per 100 K population. This while your leftist states with very few exceptions bring up the rear. And it's Republicans that lead the way by far when it comes to refusing vaccinations. See attachments. This data was already posted so apparently you haven't been following this thread. But save the fake indignation pal as no one here with any sense is buying it. Right wing nuts are the biggest problem we face in this country. They also lead the way in domestic terrorism as determined by Trump's DHS.

[URL]https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf[/URL]

P.S. The border is a complex issue but needless to say Trump's "wall" would never have worked.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2634082]Well, you made a lot of false assumptions in what I wrote .

"I also assumed you were referring to the USA because you are replying to a post which was referencing problems currently occurring at the border of the USA and Mexico. ".

Clearly I am referring to tier 1 and 2 nations.

"I assumed you were trying to argue that first world nations deliberately try to keep third world nations in poverty? Is this what you meant?

No, I never wrote that.

"I strongly disagree that anyone out there in a free market democratic society is trying to deny people in poverty freedom and opportunity just so that they can exploit them".

I never claimed that either.

"Maybe in Cuba and Venezuela, but they are communist dictatorships and not "Tier 1" or "Tier 2" nations, if that's what you meant...[/QUOTE]I understand what you meant. You sure did choose some interesting words to write your original post with if this is the message you actually wanted to convey. Either way, after reading your post, I agree that the Pharma Companies should allow poorer nations to produce their own vaccines and share their intellectual property rights regarding the vaccine. I wasn't aware that it was even taking place to be honest. It is not something covered at all in the American media. I do know that even here in the USA, it took a very long time to produce the vaccine and distribute it to the masses.

I disagree with you though that people from any country should bite back at first world nations for not sharing the I. P. Rights, I followed the vaccination rates around the world and it wasn't a significant difference at the speed of distribution from first world to third world nations and remember this, if it wasn't for those first world nations, we wouldn't have a vaccine to begin with. Just curious TK, what country are you from?

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2633843]'Ten minutes?'More like 30 or 45 minutes...I made my point.[/QUOTE]Okay so according to you Affiee (the red door) only had one girl available, and that you were the only one there the whole time other than that girl and the lady manager. You didn't take the girl but stayed 30 to 45 minutes. Why? To stare at the wall? If you wanted to play with your phone 45 minutes you wouldn't be out hunting for as girl. You obviously don't speak any basis Spanish, probably can hardly fumble around with Google translate as you never asked the manager if any girls were occupied or if any more were arriving soon. Yet you assumed all the rooms were empty and that the casa is on it's last legs. Your point is that you are a liar, which a lot of people are when trying to defend bone headed posts, but next time try to make your lies at least somewhat believable. That's the only point here.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2633871]LOL what? First of all you got it backwards. Boomers. Right wing are the anti vaxxers.

Its been killing Colombians 129 k fatalities so far. 2. 5% may be insignificant to you but its still killing their elderly.

Lastly, stay out of Colombia if you you're an anti vaxer covidiot.[/QUOTE]You're obviously the idiot given that even fully vaccinated can infect others with the virus.

Also, it's not needed to be vaccinated to be allowed in to Colombia so just STFU with your moronic opinions.

[QUOTE=TnJed;2633935]I try to stay out of arguments on this board because there's already too much acrimony in the world and this space is about our mongering hobby. But in this instance I'll jump in here for a sec. It's apparent you may only get your information from Fox News or worse, Newsmax. No Covid vaccine is 100% effective and they have never been advertised as such. What they all do effectively is drastically reduce the possibility of serious illness and death. You can be fully vaxxed with a booster and still become a breakthrough case. But feeling no symptoms, you can infect others, including kids under 5 who can't get the shot. By the way, South Africa is experiencing a unsettling uptick in cases of kids under 5 with the Omicron variant.

In regards to your right wing talking point about illegals spreading the virus, there are zero evidence that is happening. The only evidence that can truly be relied on is that this virus is still raging because there large numbers of people across the globe not vaccinated. The Southern Hemisphere needs to vaccinate 3 billion people still. Here at home there are still 40%+ of Americans that refuse to roll their sleeves up and do what's right.[/QUOTE]Well, that's incorrect. The vaccine is still raging because we have no effective vaccine to reduce transmissions.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2634084]Nothing is more predictable. Since the start of the pandemic and with few exceptions it's the strong red states that are leading the way when it comes to confirmed Covid cases per 100 K population. This while your leftist states with very few exceptions bring up the rear. And it's Republicans that lead the way by far when it comes to refusing vaccinations. See attachments. This data was already posted so apparently you haven't been following this thread. But save the fake indignation pal as no one here with any sense is buying it. Right wing nuts are the biggest problem we face in this country. They also lead the way in domestic terrorism as determined by Trump's DHS.

[URL]https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf[/URL]

P.S. The border is a complex issue but needless to say Trump's "wall" would never have worked.[/QUOTE]Paulie97,

I am not an anti-vaccine and I never said anything about people who are either pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine. Personally I am fully vaccinated and I feel safer that way and I think its the smart thing to do to get vaccinated if your health is good. I also consider myself a moderate and not a Republican and I am from a strong blue-state. When it comes to the border issue, I tend to agree with Republican policies these, but I always judge any issue on my own and don't just blindly take party lines. The border issue is very complex, I agree. In my opinion the safest solution regarding the spread of covid-19 would be to secure the border which our President, or my President depending on your country, is failing miserably to do anything about.

Please don't label me a right-wing nut just because I advocate for border security to protect labor wages, taxes, protection from drug cartels, reduction in drug trafficking, voter base-size regulation, and the reduction of covid cases within my nation. There's no justification there to label someone a nut for advocating those policies.

As far as Right-wing nuts go, they are definitely a problem, but the thing is I never hear of terrorist acts they actually commit in real life. I have never seen a right-wing terrorist attack in my local community. Ever. I literally see weekly shootings from inner city crime in my local community as well as many other forms of serious crime and it seems like a much realistic problem which effects my life and the lives of people in my community. People can spit out what ever strange facts and statistics they want, but when I read the local news and its constantly covering local shootings, looting, vandalism, car thefts. Etc on a very regular basis and I have never ever in decades seen one act of domestic terrorism, I am much more concerned about inner city crime. For the record, I have a close friend who was shot several weeks ago and my neighbors house was broken into and robbed a few weeks ago as well. Just judging life by what I actually experience. I am sure your life experiences are different and they shape your views on these same issues much differently from mine.

Again I would never condone right-wing extremism and things like the Jan. 6th riots are a disgrace and the actions of those right-wing nuts were reprehensible. You can never condone riots like that. They were just as bad and shameful as the Left-wing nuts who burnt cities down over the George Floyd murder.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2634113]Well, that's incorrect. The vaccine is still raging because we have no effective vaccine to reduce transmissions.[/QUOTE]I hate raging vaccines that aren't effective because the vaccine wasn't effective at reducing vaccines. LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2634088]I followed the vaccination rates around the world and it wasn't a significant difference at the speed of distribution from first world to third world nations and remember this, if it wasn't for those first world nations, we wouldn't have a vaccine to begin with. Just curious TK, what country are you from?[/QUOTE]Am not sure what news channels you watch Ram, but I would consider changing them. Hehe. As of 15 Sep 2021,60% of people in high income countries had received 1 jab, whereas 3% in low income countries had received one. Thats according to the UN. [URL]https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/09/1100192[/URL].

The World Bank stated that of the first 4 billion vaccine doses used, only 0. 3% of them went to people from low income countries.

Which country am I from? I would rather not say. Nothing against you Ram, but there are plenty others here who pounce on any information to insult and mis-characterise you.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2634177]Am not sure what news channels you watch Ram, but I would consider changing them. Hehe. As of 15 Sep 2021,60% of people in high income countries had received 1 jab, whereas 3% in low income countries had received one. Thats according to the UN. [URL]https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/09/1100192[/URL].

The World Bank stated that of the first 4 billion vaccine doses used, only 0. 3% of them went to people from low income countries.

Which country am I from? I would rather not say. Nothing against you Ram, but there are plenty others here who pounce on any information to insult and mis-characterise you.[/QUOTE]Interesting and concerning statistics you present. I followed the world vaccination chart on vaccination rates from CNN I believe. They had an interactive map and I followed much of Latin America and their vaccination rates, hehe especially Mexico and Colombia for obvious reasons and I didn't notice many nations were so far behind. I am always in support of a free market and private ownership of business and industry and unfortunately healthcare is privatized in the USA so I would have to support their rights in a situation like this most of the time, but I think for future pandemics, perhaps there could be a discussion on the use of emergency legislation to allow a more even distribution of a vaccine to third world nations.

And respect to your privacy, the most I would ever reveal about my self on a forum like this is my nationality.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2634113]Well, that's incorrect. The vaccine is still raging because we have no effective vaccine to reduce transmissions.[/QUOTE]You're a great combo. Toxic and stupid.

Vaccines to prevent serious illness AND wear a fucking mask to limit transmission. Jesus f'ing Christ.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2634096]Okay so according to you Affiee (the red door) only had one girl available, and that you were the only one there the whole time other than that girl and the lady manager. You didn't take the girl but stayed 30 to 45 minutes. Why? To stare at the wall?[/QUOTE]LOL, Maybe you need the comprehension course. I never said I was there that particular time for 30 to 45 minutes. I was saying majority of the times I visited there I spent 30 minutes or more, but it seems you like to spin things to fit your own argument. I guess your the CN of the forum. Lmao.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2634051]Deaths per one million population per worldometer is 2491 in Colombia, 2422 in USA, and 1486 in Sweden.

Not sure what being an antivaxxer has to do with anything, but those numbers show it really was stupid for the government to have shut down and banned international travel for as long as they did.[/QUOTE][URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/04/oh-oh-omicron/[/URL]

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2634231] I never said I was there that particular time for 30 to 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what you said when asked how you could possibly know how many girls were present in just ten minutes, a normal time frame for the visit since you didn't take a girl. But let's go back to your original post for the fun of it.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2634231]Went to Aiffe on Calle 57 (Argentina) 43-27 earlier today. Sat down, waited for the presentation, the first girl comes out, shows herself and goes back through the curtain. Waited for the next girl, the lady comes out and I though she said wait a moment the girls were getting ready, but more like there' s only one girl. They usually had at least between 5 to 8 girls if I remember. I guess now this is the new norm. This place is one girl away from closing.[/QUOTE]"If you remember" but you obviously don't. This place often over the years has only a few girls to present. Much relates to how many happen to be occupied and / or how early you arrive. It's a smaller operation than say New Life or Zandalay. So on a single visit only one girl was presented, and without asking the manager how many were occupied you assume this is "the new norm" and the place is "one girl away from closing. " That's some fine reasoning ability there pal, beautiful use of logical deduction. LMAO Can you walk and chew gum at the same time? It's not safe for you to be wandering around a foreign country without a guardian. Wink.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2633843]Over the dozen times I've been there over a period of 10 years I personally never seen anybody else there and there was always at least 5 girls. [/QUOTE]Yea right, you are obviously making it up as you go along. Your experience is in German gangbang clubs / sausage fests. Hey why wait for October? LOL Wink. It's obviously minimal for Medellin, and your latest trip was only four days. Affiee (the red door) is well established for many years and popular with North Americans and locals alike. Often men are seen on the couch and chairs deciding on girls. If the door is closed to the big front room than someone is in there. They get plenty of traffic. One reason surely is because the directions to there from New Life are so simple. You obviously know little of these places or common sense when you assume that no one else was in the building because you never saw them. LMAO These places thrive on activities behind closed doors between hookers and customers. And you didn't bother booting up Google translate to see if any other girls were working other than the one presented to you. That's standard procedure when visiting a casa.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2633843]Well many of them have. Dulce on Carrera 45 #57-55 is the last one standing on that street [/QUOTE]The one next door to Dulce Acompania was hanging by a thread before the pandemic and may well resurface later. The only other one on that street was several blocks down the street, was know as the Coffee House. It likewise was a weak business before the pandemic and may have went under prior. It likely won't resurface as it's a personal residence now. Those are the only two failures in that general vicinity. There are five strong businesses in the general area, New Life, Affiee, Dulce, Amigas de Sexy, and Zandalay.

Though no doubt equally divisive. Cop26 was a disaster and here is a superb discussion as to why.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuBJvu6XNww[/URL]