Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.

US cities St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit all make the top 50 list also and are more dangerous then Medellin.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]

[URL]http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108189]The Venezuelan homicide rate is more then double the Colombia rate and is probably unreported also.

Caracas is the top most dangerous city in the world.

The US homicide rate is 4 per 100,000 per year. The Colombian rate is 26 per 100,000. The Venezuelan rate is 57. However the rate in Caracas is an astounding 130 per 100,000.

Medellin does not even make the top 50 most dangerous cities.

4 Colombia cities do make the top 50 list: Cali, Palmira, Armenia, and Cucuta.[/QUOTE]If you buy one Power Ball ticket your odds of winning are tiny. If you buy 100 tickets your odds are 100 times better but still tiny.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2108265]I love data but there's an inherent problem with these stats: it takes into account the city as a whole (which can include suburbs). Now show me the stats of homicides in a specific neighborhood in these cities that a monger would want to go to and you have more relevant data. I can go to Baltimore and stay out of all the "bad" areas and never worry but can I do the same in Medellin or Bogota? I suspect the real answer lies there.[/QUOTE]This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.

Medellin Safety Tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".

YK makes an excellent point. I would also add that there is more to the definition of "dangerous" than getting murdered. Who cares if you avoid getting murdered if you get killed in a car accident? Or would you consider a "safe" trip one where you did not get murdered or die in a car wreck but contracted hepatitis, yellow fever, malaria, or HIV? Or broke your ankle on a crappy sidewalk? Right now I am in a Latin Amrican town where I fear falling on the sidewalks or cobblestones more than getting murdered.

One thing I will say is that, as compared to the US with its random mass shootings, there is usually a reason underlying murders in LatAm. Fucking someone else's woman, getting involved with drugs, etc. , as opposed to minding your own business at a concert in Las Vegas or a church in Texas or a school in California or or or or or ...

I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2107682]SMH! Why would you pay in US dollars when you are in Col? This the is the problem guys. Let's get educated before we go out and monger guys. Before you know it Medellin will be way to expensive if not already in poblado. No thanks to guys like this that ruin it for all of us. Good luck next time.[/QUOTE]How can another guy ruin it for you? If some chica asks you to pay something that you don't want to pay, don't. Next!

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108281]
I have not been in Caracas in a long time but unless things have drastically changed, who cares if it is dangerous or not? It is boring and sucks.[/QUOTE]That can be said with about 98% of the places we go to monger. We wouldn't be there if not for the legal P4P and willing participants. I mean, how many times are you going to visit Pablo Escobar’s grave or visit Gutape?

It's like the old saying about a woman: if it were not for her having a snatch, we would never talk to them!

Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogotá has the gold museum, Zipaquirá nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panamá City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2107740]Not me, that's my buddies. They are rich so they don't care.

Haha yeah, I told them I was coming back and they wanted to come along butI told them I'm going by myself.[/QUOTE]Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.

[QUOTE=Combo;2108296]Most of us here make a good living or we wouldn't be able to pursue this hobby like we do. Most of us could easily give every chica we fuck 1 million or more pesos. But we don't because we're not stupid. There are many good reasons to not overpay even if the money is inconsequential for you.[/QUOTE]One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to [I]invest[/I] I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2108110]Go to Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Ecuador if you must have $6 pussy. .[/QUOTE]
Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil.

However, last time I visited La18, the prices were higher already: I may be wrong, but above $10 already, maybe $12.
I think that to find 600-penny pussies in Ecuador, we have to go back to the Old Golden Times reported by Tungurahua in Quito (everyone please stand up to show respect for the true Master of ISG).

Tungurahua, wherever you are now, I will never forget your stories.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108294]Nah. Most of the places I go to monger are inherently interesting as well, at least for a couple of days. Bogot has the gold museum, Zipaquir nearby, Montserrate, etc. Quito has the funicular or cable or whatever exactly it is, up to the top of the mountain near La Linea. Panam City sucks but has the canal to visit. Spain is a great place for mongering and anything else you want to do. Buenos Aires is a world class city with lots of art and yadda yadda. Bangkok is fascinating. Caracas has um I forget. Car exhaust. Lots of car exhaust is what I remember. But, I did not monger there.[/QUOTE]Buenos Aires used to be my second favorite destination in South America. Had some really great times there. Last visit was 2010. P4P has gone completely downhill there. Why? Hope Medellin does not head in that direction.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108393]

Thumbs up for you! I guess not many regulars of the Medellin thread do know about LaDieciOcho in Guayaquil. [/QUOTE]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2108393]One good reason is that if I have 1 millions to [I]invest[/I] I will use it to enjoy a group of 10 girls, rather than just one with Princess attitude.


[/QUOTE]Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108430]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJnO-tUORQ[/URL]

It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.

Recommend? Depends on your taste. It only interests me because of the sheer depravity of having so many hookers concentrated in one place.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2108430]Is Ecuador a "recommend"?[/QUOTE]Yes for the nature (on the Andes), not for P4P.

And if you go for leisure and some P4P, chongos, underground life, strictly avoid Guayaquil. Go to Quito.

Is Quito a recommend? NO, unless you are Tungurahua (but you are not, he's the One), but however better than anywhere else in Ecuador.

Are Ecuadorean girls pretty? 90% NO. Are they easy to bed? 99% NO!

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2108456]
It's like Santa Fe in Bogota. A street full of brothels and hookers. I haven't been because I hear you have to show your passport to enter the chongos (brothels). You can find more discussion in the Guayaquil thread.[/QUOTE]This passport thing is new to me. I've been there many times, but not in the last 3-4 years.
I remember one door man in Guayaquil who asked me the passport before entering a popular chicabar one night. He said it's for security. I guess he just wanted $5 tip, as he let me in after receiving the token of appreciation for his concerns about my safety on site.

It has nothing to do with Santa Fe! If you want a similarity, it may be more like La Linea of Guatemala. It is ONE STREET, while Santa Fe is an area of several blocks. There are no clubs and strip bars. It's a place with WLs waiting for customers in their small rooms in the back. It was famous for being very dangerous ("cada DIA matavan a uno en la calle", a taxi driver told me, maybe just to be bombastic), but now I read there is a lot of police and was converted into something safer, but also not very interesting to visit, at least from the social point of view.

If you search the Guayaquil thread for my nick, you can find reports I wrote several years ago from La18.

The fee was, say, around $8 some years ago when I visited first, but then increased. That fee gives you a short session of mechanical sex. Nothing like what you are used to get in Colombia. I tried ONCE, and the other times I just had a beer inside one of the bars (bars are for beers, $1 each, not for girls).

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2108453]Diversify, you get better experience of the locals and not losing out on one if you make a bad decision.[/QUOTE]Yes, but maybe you did not understand I mean "10 girls all together all around me at the same time", instead of "10 girls one after the other". :P

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2108275]This article has a breakdown of murders by neighborhood:

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

"Robberies / thefts of people reported in Medellin between January 1 and May 14,2016, were 13 percent less than the same period in the previous year. 49 percent of these robberies / thefts during the period were in El Centro. The second most common comuna for a robbery was Laureles followed by El Poblado.

If you normalize these counts by population El Poblado and Laureles have a similar population of about 125,000 while El Centro has a lower population of about 85,000 but it also has many visitors during the day doing shopping.

The most common items stolen were cell phones, followed by money and clothes and jewelry.

In El Poblado, robberies / thefts totaled 220 during the reporting period, which was up 15% compared to the same period in 2015. This may be due to thieves targeting the wealthy area of Medellin and tourists in the area.

La Candelaria (El Centro) remains the most dangerous part of Medellin with the highest counts of robberies / thefts, motorcycle thefts, homicides and sexual offenses. That is why you will see an increased police presence in El Centro.

In terms of homicides, the highest counts during the period between January 1 and May 14,2016 were found in La Candelaria with 28, Robledo with 21 and Castilla with 19. During this reporting period only 2 of the 171 homicides in Medelland were in El Poblado. ".

"Foreigner Homicides in Medellin in 2016.

Most foreigner homicides in Medellin I have seen reported in the news in over six years was a result of something the foreigners did. These are typically related to resisting a robbery or being involved in shady activities like drugs or prostitution.

There were nine reported homicides of foreigners in Medellin in 2016. We'll look at these in detail to demonstrate that a majority of foreigner homicides in the city tend to be the result of resisting robberies or being involved in shady activities.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the LOS Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medellin by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of ​8203;the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

Also there were at least six foreigner deaths in Medellin in 2016 due to drug overdoses reported in the news.

Medellin Safety Tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers. ".[/QUOTE]What you've stated is by all means very sound advice. Most of the gringo's I see are always in shorts and flip flops and most of the time they are backpackers. I SMH every time I see them. To those who says I've walked the streets in "city", well, its a numbers game. The objective is to keep a low profile and keep your wits as this is about enjoying and being safe. We gringo's have a false sense of safety mainly because here in the US it normally is. BUT do not bring this to other places as crime is always around the corner and you just have to stay alert. When its late and dark, I always take a taxi and not random but using the app because you will know who is coming. I always look at my surroundings before getting into the cab or before it arrives so I can see who is watching, normally I look for 2 people on a motorcycle to see what they are doing. This is normally how they rob people. Look to see if there License plate is displayed on their jackets, if not, it normally is used to hide who they are. Be safe and keep your wits around you.